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| 00:45 | hudsonbot | Starting build 304 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #296 1 day 2 hr ago) |
| 00:46 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327 - Now we are doing db calls, we need to shift this to t/db_dependent <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dcf8dcb064539b224> / Added unit tests to test all of get_amazon_tld in Amazon.pm. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7f3800d7a5b92923c> |
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| 01:12 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #304: STILL UNSTABLE in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/304/ |
| 01:12 | * Zach Sim: Added unit tests to test all of get_amazon_tld in Amazon.pm. | |
| 01:12 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 - Now we are doing db calls, we need to shift this to t/db_dependent | |
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| 01:21 | chris | !hudson build koha_master now |
| 01:21 | hudsonbot | chris: job koha_master build scheduled now |
| 01:22 | Starting build 305 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #296 1 day 2 hr ago) | |
| 01:24 | chris | @later tell jcamins if you want a patch to make it into my list, make sure you set the bug to signed-off .. this is your one freebie :) |
| 01:24 | munin | chris: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:33 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_4289 * rv3.02.00-560-gd5c0b2a 10/ (installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl kohaversion.pl): Bug 4289: Bumping version number up |
| 01:33 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4289 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Add a syspref 'OpacPublic', to hide OPAC search-bar and force authentication on all OPAC pages |
| 01:36 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4289: Bumping version number up <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7af01a035a8f29f71> / Bug 4289 Followup: Add syspref default value and in opac.pref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1385decb25398a5f4> / Bug 4289: 'OpacPublic' feature <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=f46b03cf2da045c7 | |
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| 01:40 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03claudia.forsman 07new/enh/bug_5628 * rv3.02.00-561-g422df40 10/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/itemtypeimg/kids icons new/ (28 files): New icon set for kids, has ben rezided to 48 by 48px |
| 01:41 | Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_5628 * rv3.02.00-562-ga387b6f 10/ (85 files in 4 dirs): New icon set, renaming and making files in the intranet too | |
| 01:41 | Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_5628 * rv3.02.00-562-g907cf10 10/ (85 files in 4 dirs): New icon set, renaming and making files in the intranet too | |
| 01:42 | Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_5628 * rv3.02.00-562-gbe1a194 10/ (85 files in 4 dirs): New icon set, renaming and making files in the intranet too | |
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| 01:44 | havergara | hello |
| 01:44 | can someone help me with my problem please? | |
| 01:50 | hudsonbot | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 01:50 | Project Koha_Master build #305: FIXED in 28 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/305/ | |
| 01:50 | havergara | no one online? |
| 01:50 | T_T | |
| 01:51 | hudsonbot | Starting build 306 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 01:51 | havergara | :s |
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| 02:08 | mib_glrnd | sorry about the typo by the way >.< |
| 02:08 | havergara | hello guys can you please healp me? |
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| 02:09 | chris | whats your problem? we wont know if we can help until we know what the issue is |
| 02:09 | ibeardsle | no-one can help anyone without knowing what the problem is and what has been done to sort it out |
| 02:09 | havergara | sorry |
| 02:10 | i was asking for help for around sometime already no one is responding :s | |
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| 02:10 | havergara | my problem involves the fines in my KOHA system |
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| 02:11 | havergara | everything is set accordingly,, the cronjob for fines.pl is already running |
| 02:11 | chris | ok |
| 02:11 | havergara | and the computation of fines according to the log on the server is functioning well |
| 02:12 | mib_5e73n is now known as claudia | |
| 02:12 | havergara | but when i go to the OPAC and see the overdued items a patron borrowed, it says under fines field: NO |
| 02:12 | the item is supposed to be overdued over two days already | |
| 02:12 | claudia | the apologies about the typo was from me fyi >.< sorry about that. |
| 02:13 | chris | is there lines in your accountlines table? |
| 02:13 | for that borrower | |
| 02:13 | havergara | yes there is |
| 02:13 | chris | what version of Koha |
| 02:13 | Spartanes | Chris is teaching us to typo in commits. |
| 02:13 | havergara | version 3.00.06.010 |
| 02:14 | claudia | its true |
| 02:14 | chris | if you look at the patron in the staff side, does it show the fines? |
| 02:15 | i havent heard this bug reported before, but 3.0.6 is pretty old now, so it may have been fixed | |
| 02:15 | havergara | no sir...it says the same... |
| 02:16 | there are some which have the same situation as mine on the forums but there are no folow ups as to if those problems have already fixed | |
| 02:16 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #306: UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/306/ |
| 02:16 | * Mason James: Bug 4289: 'OpacPublic' feature | |
| 02:16 | * Fr?d?ric Demians: Bug 4289 Followup: Add syspref default value and in opac.pref | |
| 02:16 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 4289: Bumping version number up | |
| 02:17 | havergara | a chris sir... |
| 02:17 | chris | havergara: i know that fines definitely show in all the 3.2.x releases |
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| 02:17 | havergara | there is no record for that user in the accountlines |
| 02:17 | chris | oh, i thought you said there was? |
| 02:17 | havergara | im sorry for that |
| 02:17 | i just checked | |
| 02:18 | chris | ahh, well then it sounds like fines2.pl is not putting the fines in |
| 02:18 | thats where they are stored | |
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| 02:18 | havergara | where can i find this fine2.pl |
| 02:18 | chris | or fines.pl |
| 02:18 | havergara | my koha 3 seems to not have this file |
| 02:18 | chris | if you run fines.pl by hand, does it work? |
| 02:19 | havergara | yes sir |
| 02:19 | it works | |
| 02:19 | i just did that too awhile ago | |
| 02:19 | chris | i mean does it put rows into accountlines |
| 02:19 | havergara | but if i check on the staff and OPAC...no fines appears |
| 02:19 | chris | if not, then either its not working or the rules are not set up right |
| 02:19 | all fines.pl should do, is put rows into accountlines | |
| 02:20 | havergara | o,,no sir...if i do the fines.pl by hand, it shows computation but there are no records entered to the accountlines |
| 02:21 | the only things showing in my accountlines table are the charging of reservation and membership if im not mistaken... | |
| 02:21 | OMG | |
| 02:21 | im screwed..hehe! | |
| 02:22 | chris | you need to check your system preferences |
| 02:24 | check the setting for finesMode | |
| 02:24 | what is that set to? | |
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| 02:28 | havergara | hello |
| 02:28 | sir chris | |
| 02:28 | i a,went to our server\ | |
| 02:28 | sorry for the delay on reply | |
| 02:28 | chris | yep, what is the systempreference for finesMode set to? |
| 02:28 | havergara | so this is the situation im into |
| 02:29 | a ok...uhm it is set to production | |
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| 02:30 | havergara | we executed the fines.pl in the server and the result was it ca detect the patron having fines but then i think the computation is not done |
| 02:31 | eter | hey yall ... took a loong holiday break |
| 02:31 | chris | havergara: there is no setting for calculate and charge |
| 02:31 | havergara | it can only detect that a certain patron has overdues and those overdues are the dues made in Account management and Reserve Charge |
| 02:32 | eter | hey chris how is your new yaer? |
| 02:32 | chris | eter: pretty good so far |
| 02:32 | havergara | sir can i request you to guide me to step by step set my fines preferences pls?:) |
| 02:32 | chris | havergara: i have no idea for 3.0.6 |
| 02:32 | you are probably best to ask on the mailing list | |
| 02:32 | havergara | aw :s |
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| 02:33 | eter | hey system.prefs> opacheader is that for links to customization files or is it for direct codes? |
| 02:33 | havergara | i did already posted a load there but my account up to now is not accepted |
| 02:33 | wt heck..hehe | |
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| 02:34 | eter | ok never mind found it ....codes |
| 02:34 | havergara | by the way, chris what do you mean i have no setting for calculate and charge? |
| 02:34 | chris | in 3.2.x there are 3 settings you can choose for finesmode |
| 02:35 | one is 'calculate and charge' | |
| 02:35 | havergara | o...yeah i think i really dont have that |
| 02:35 | do you think thats the problem?\ | |
| 02:36 | and heres an update to the records inside accountlines | |
| 02:38 | what is account type "FU" | |
| 02:38 | chris | Fine Unpaid |
| 02:38 | havergara | there is a record just added |
| 02:38 | chris | cool, what is the borrowernumber? try looking at that borrower in the opac |
| 02:39 | (or in the staff interface) | |
| 02:39 | havergara | ok ok...:) |
| 02:40 | yeah!wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...! | |
| 02:40 | i think its a fine from overdues of books\ | |
| 02:40 | but | |
| 02:41 | hey why is it located on the total and not in line with the book record | |
| 02:41 | chris | yes FU is from overdues |
| 02:41 | havergara | i mean in the staff client |
| 02:41 | over the patron details | |
| 02:41 | chris | i dont know, i havent looked at 3.0.x in over a year |
| 02:42 | havergara | on the checked out are |
| 02:42 | on the cheked out area | |
| 02:43 | there you can see the fields: ITEM TYPE, TITLE, CHECKED OUT ON, DUE DATE, CHARGE, and PRICE | |
| 02:43 | under charge | |
| 02:43 | chris | thats replacement price |
| 02:43 | not the fines | |
| 02:43 | they only show on the accounts page | |
| 02:43 | the price column there is for the price of the book | |
| 02:44 | havergara | ok i see |
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| 02:44 | havergara | so i went to the OPAC |
| 02:44 | and went to my fines | |
| 02:44 | wasabi | havergara: i think chris is whispering you "update your koha to 3.2-stable" :) |
| 02:44 | havergara | there under fines, still "No" is placed |
| 02:45 | chris | but it is showing in staff? |
| 02:46 | havergara | i mean on summary, if i go to summary, it says under fines "No" |
| 02:46 | but if i go to the my fines, the fine is already showing | |
| 02:46 | wasabi hahaha | |
| 02:46 | chris | ok |
| 02:46 | so yeah, that might be a bug, but 3.0.x is no longer developed, so it wont be fixed | |
| 02:47 | and probably is already fixed in 3.2.x and 3.4 | |
| 02:47 | havergara | :s:/ |
| 02:47 | what is the latest stable version of koha anyway? | |
| 02:47 | chris | 3.2.2 is the latest stable release |
| 02:47 | havergara | o ok... |
| 02:47 | chris | 3.2.3 will be released on the 22nd |
| 02:48 | havergara | hmmmm |
| 02:48 | but my 3.0 is already implemented | |
| 02:48 | their going to kill me haha | |
| 02:48 | and i havent any experience yet in upgrading... | |
| 02:48 | wasabi | $ git reset —hard v3.02.00-rc |
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| 02:49 | wasabi | so, set up a test koha…. |
| 02:49 | chris | yes you should definitely do the update on a test one first |
| 02:50 | wasabi | and experiment with upgrading it to 3.2 |
| 02:50 | chris | and the bug is fairly minor, as the fines are actually being levied |
| 02:50 | wasabi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 02:51 | chris | so its just a display issue on the summary page |
| 02:53 | havergara | yes i believe it is |
| 02:54 | let me just see if i can fix that issue :D | |
| 02:56 | chris | claudia: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160 |
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| 02:57 | glernil | good day! |
| 02:57 | how can i show the call number of the biblio in the opac? | |
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| 03:04 | havergara | i think thats supposed to be filled in the catalog record? |
| 03:07 | chris? | |
| 03:07 | ibot | rumour has it chris is awesome or a real world traveller |
| 03:09 | Silens | claudia? |
| 03:09 | havergara | this i think is the one causing the display issue |
| 03:09 | <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="charge" --> | |
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| 03:32 | Amit | heya all |
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| 03:42 | ibeardsle | would people consider the system accepting a birthdate in the future a bug? |
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| 05:00 | chris | ibeardsle: yes, I would |
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| 05:10 | Oak | \o |
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| 06:17 | ibeardsle | chris: johnboy's had a unit test that was returning -19 as an age .. maybe walk him through getting a bug filed ;) |
| 06:18 | chris | Good idea :) |
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| 06:53 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 06:58 | francharb | hello #koha |
| 07:06 | cait | hi francharb |
| 07:15 | Amit | heya cait |
| 07:19 | cait | hi Amit |
| 07:24 | bye all | |
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| 07:45 | chris | evening all |
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| 07:51 | kf | morning #koha |
| 07:55 | ibeardsle | this the 2nd shift starting? |
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| 07:57 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_4289 * rv3.02.00-561-gce5bf27 10/installer/data/mysql/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Bug 4289: Updating other sysprefs until we change the installer, we need to do this |
| 07:57 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4289 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Add a syspref 'OpacPublic', to hide OPAC search-bar and force authentication on all OPAC pages |
| 07:57 | chris | ibeardsle: europe coming online :) |
| 07:59 | kf | huh? |
| 07:59 | unit_tests++ :) | |
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| 08:01 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4289: Updating other sysprefs until we change the installer, we need to do this <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]83708b01892c28bdf> |
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| 08:04 | kf | morning paul_p |
| 08:04 | * kf | wonders what cait was doing here... |
| 08:08 | paul_p | 'morning kf |
| 08:08 | i'm in Metz, near germany ;-) | |
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| 08:15 | hudsonbot | Starting build 307 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #305 6 hr 53 min ago) |
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| 08:35 | kf | paul_p: you are travelling a lot! but still 355km away from me google maps says |
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| 08:38 | hudsonbot | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 08:38 | Project Koha_Master build #307: FIXED in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/307/ | |
| 08:38 | Chris Cormack: Bug 4289: Updating other sysprefs until we change the installer, we need to do this | |
| 08:38 | paul_p | kf, yep, my wife think i'm travelling too much... |
| 08:39 | ivanc | hallo #koha |
| 08:39 | paul_p | next week in Lille once again |
| 08:39 | 'morning ivanc -at least if you're from Europe/Africa- otherwise good afternoon, evening or whatever ;-) | |
| 08:49 | * kf | waves to ivanc |
| 08:52 | chris | http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ter/HTML_Report/? <-- check it out, 49.2% subroutine coverage, im aiming for 80% eventually but as long as it keeps going up im happy |
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| 09:05 | paul_p | hello chris. How are things in NZ ? |
| 09:08 | chris ? | |
| 09:08 | ibot | chris is awesome or a real world traveller |
| 09:09 | chris | paul_p: busy but good |
| 09:09 | paul_p | I've a question for you : i've splitted biblibre-various in 20 very small branches, with 2-3 patches each. Do you prefer a pull request for each of them or a git send-email ? |
| 09:10 | * paul_p | tend to go git-send-email |
| 09:10 | ivanc | hallo kf :) |
| 09:12 | chris | git send-email then hopefully ppl will sign off on them |
| 09:13 | paul_p | ok, will do that. |
| 09:13 | 2nd question = any news from integration of other branches ? [I have had no more feedback from anyone] | |
| 09:13 | chris | nope, still waiting on sign off on them, you read owens feedback eh? |
| 09:14 | paul_p | which one ? [i've read some and think I fixed them, but may have missed something] |
| 09:15 | chris | on the wiki i think |
| 09:15 | * paul_p | will check again [maybe we have too many sources : wiki, bz, mls ...] |
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| 09:21 | chris | well normally feedback would go on the bug, but most of these dont have bugs |
| 09:21 | hopefully that wont happen anymore | |
| 09:21 | kf | I am not sure, but I think the bug got updated as well |
| 09:21 | I remember seeing a lotof mails | |
| 09:22 | paul_p | yep kf, me too, i'll check again |
| 09:22 | kf | yep, bug 5575 |
| 09:22 | chris | its hard to update the bug, cos the bug covers a lot of things |
| 09:22 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements |
| 09:22 | kf | owen++ |
| 09:22 | paul_p | owen++ |
| 09:22 | chris | i think that branch is getting pretty close to being mergeable |
| 09:23 | paul_p | and I missed all of those comments. |
| 09:23 | owen++ | |
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| 10:40 | paul_p | ok, time to go to catch my train... good night to kiwis/aussies, good day to others |
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| 14:08 | hdl | hi |
| 14:08 | kf | hi hdl |
| 14:08 | owen | Hi everyone |
| 14:08 | hdl | hi owen |
| 14:09 | still confused why would the irc connections per ip be limited to 3 connections | |
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| 14:34 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 14:36 | owen | Hi jcamins |
| 14:37 | sekjal | howdy, jcamins, owen, hdl! |
| 14:39 | kf | hi sekjal and jcamins |
| 14:40 | sekjal | hi, kf! |
| 14:47 | jcamins | Hello, owen, sekjal, and kf. |
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| 15:55 | wizzyrea | good morning |
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| 15:56 | wizzyrea | well that was not what I intended to do |
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| 16:06 | fcapo | Hello, I'm having a problem with my search results right now. Some search results show "No title" and they have no biblionumber. |
| 16:06 | Koha version 3.02.02.001 | |
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| 16:08 | fcapo | The problem happens on marc records that go over the 99999 characters limit of the MARC format. |
| 16:09 | I use -x option on rebuild zebra so it can index the records that go over that limit, but those records show "No title" | |
| 16:12 | Koha seems to be configured to use GSR-1 and not DOM for Zebra indexations | |
| 16:12 | for biblio records that is... | |
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| 16:14 | fcapo | So when I get the search results from Zebra, I get them in MARC format and not XML, so the 99999 characters limit kicks back and the search result is broken. |
| 16:15 | see: http://search.cpan.org/~mirk/N[…]OOM.pod#raw%28%29 | |
| 16:15 | kf | sorry fcapo - have not run into that |
| 16:19 | hdl | fcapo: yes... |
| 16:19 | fcapo: it is using GRS-1 for biblio records | |
| 16:19 | and the limit is there. | |
| 16:19 | You may want to use the zebrasrv with -k 50000 | |
| 16:19 | fcapo: yes... | |
| 16:19 | fcapo: it is using GRS-1 for biblio records | |
| 16:19 | and the limit is there. | |
| 16:19 | ibot | i already had it that way, hdl. |
| 16:19 | hdl | You may want to use the zebrasrv with -k 50000 |
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| 16:21 | fcapo | hdl: I'll look into that option, thanks for the feedback |
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| 16:25 | fcapo | tried with -k 50000 then did a rebuild_zebra.pl . It changed nothing. |
| 16:27 | then problem is that I receive the search results in MARC when they should be in XML. If a record goes over the limit of 99999 characters, I don't receive the full record because the size information of the leader is incorrect. | |
| 16:28 | XML doesn't look at the size information of the leader, that's why it can go over the limit. | |
| 16:28 | hdl | yes. |
| 16:28 | in fact, I think that MARC::Record should not rely on directory | |
| 16:29 | to build the structure. | |
| 16:29 | It should take tag/subfield characters and decode. | |
| 16:30 | But that would not abide by the normalization | |
| 16:31 | We have had the same problem and would be induced into either get the MARC::File::XML or reduce the count of items (usually it is because the record contains XXXXXXXXX items) | |
| 16:32 | using the XML returned by zebra could be a way... But it is s l o w | |
| 16:32 | fcapo | so that's the reason they stayed with GRS-1? |
| 16:33 | hdl | one of the reasois |
| 16:33 | fcapo | ok |
| 16:53 | chris_n | circ rules question; given a self-checkout setup: if a patron runs up against their renewal limit, what's to keep them from checkin/checkout and circumvent the renewal limit? |
| 16:54 | kf | hm |
| 16:54 | I think nothing | |
| 16:54 | owen is now known as owen-away | |
| 16:54 | kf | but if there is no reserve on it it's probably not really a problem? |
| 16:54 | otherwise he could come back the next day... only annoying for the borrower | |
| 16:55 | but: the problem is he will even be able to check the item out again if there is a reserve (using selfcheck) | |
| 16:55 | at least this is what happens at our self check stations (rfid/sip2) because the item does not go into waiting | |
| 16:55 | wizzyrea | ther'es nothing that keeps someone from doing that |
| 16:55 | kf really? | |
| 16:55 | kf | yep |
| 16:55 | wizzyrea | I thought that was fixed |
| 16:56 | * wizzyrea | is suddenly unsure that all of our dev escaped |
| 16:56 | wizzyrea | because ours won't let you check something out without a reserve |
| 16:56 | er | |
| 16:56 | kf | with :) |
| 16:56 | wizzyrea | if a reserve is placed |
| 16:56 | yes, that | |
| 16:56 | kf | we are waiting for the rfid vendor do some tests now |
| 16:56 | but the tests we did looked not very promising :( | |
| 16:56 | wizzyrea | that makes me feel very unhappy :) |
| 16:56 | :( | |
| 16:57 | 3.2 version? | |
| 16:57 | kf | 3.1.61 |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | ohh |
| 16:57 | yea | |
| 16:57 | ok | |
| 16:57 | kf | tested with 3.2.1 I think |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | hmmm |
| 16:58 | kf | bug 3638 |
| 16:58 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3638 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Status of hold not changed when item checked in via SIP2 Interface |
| 17:00 | kf | wizzyrea: perhaps I missed something, hope they will test tomorrow and we will know more |
| 17:00 | chris | you might need to bug colin about that |
| 17:00 | kf | have to go now - getting late - see you all a bit later |
| 17:00 | hi chris | |
| 17:01 | updated bug - but I see now that I didn#t mention the "checkout with reserve" | |
| 17:01 | will try to write him this week when vendor has tested | |
| 17:01 | bye all - coworker waiting for me | |
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| 17:03 | chris_n | back, sorry |
| 17:05 | so in reality, renewal limits are only to accommodate holds? | |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | well no |
| 17:06 | it's to keep someone from renewing an item indefinitely | |
| 17:06 | through the opac | |
| 17:06 | chris_n | but not through self-checkout |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | right |
| 17:06 | chris_n | seems a bug to me then |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | maybe the selfcheck needs to honor that, to make it so that a staff person has to check it in and out again |
| 17:07 | chris_n | that's the behavior I would expect |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | I think I agree with that |
| 17:07 | this is the builtin self check, not a RFID one | |
| 17:07 | right? | |
| 17:07 | * chris_n | wonders how many libraries use self-checkout |
| 17:07 | chris_n | right |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | at least on our RFID machines, you can't check in from the kiosk |
| 17:08 | you can renew, but once you hit the limit it disallows it | |
| 17:08 | chris_n | iirc one can forbid a patron from checking in using self-checkout |
| 17:08 | wizzyrea | and you'd have to talk to a person |
| 17:08 | chris_n | there's a syspref for it |
| 17:09 | * wizzyrea | notes that her machines are not using the builtin selfcheck, do it through SIP |
| 17:09 | chris_n | right |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea | and I believe it works as you expect it to |
| 17:09 | chris_n | we probably should disallow checkins via self-checkout |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea | that would be your best immediate solution |
| 17:09 | probalby | |
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| 17:10 | wizzyrea | properly spelled, of course |
| 17:10 | chris_n | hehe |
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| 17:13 | chris | hdl: do you have a minute? |
| 17:13 | can you try connecting more than 4 times now? | |
| 17:14 | or anyone for that matter | |
| 17:15 | * chris | thinks he has changed that limit |
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| 17:15 | * chris_n | need to have his head checked |
| 17:16 | chris_n | chris: limit? |
| 17:16 | ibot | it has been said that limit is there. |
| 17:16 | wizzyrea | ibot forget limit |
| 17:16 | ibot | wizzyrea: I forgot limit |
| 17:16 | wizzyrea | connect to what? |
| 17:16 | jcamins | IRC. |
| 17:16 | wizzyrea | o |
| 17:17 | chris | yeah |
| 17:17 | chris_n | wizzyrea: preventing checkouts would sort of defeat the purpose of having a self-checkout.... :-S |
| 17:17 | so sco really needs a feature that prevents checking out an item that is over its renewal limit | |
| 17:17 | wizzyrea | chris_n: true, but you were wanting to limit checkIN's |
| 17:18 | chris_n | arghh!! :-P |
| 17:18 | wizzyrea | so that to check in the book had to go through a staff member :) |
| 17:18 | chris | that makes sense to me |
| 17:18 | chris_n | is it time to quit yet? |
| 17:18 | jcamins | wizzyrea: you can check *in* with a self check-out machine? |
| 17:18 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 17:18 | jcamins: not on ours you can't | |
| 17:18 | apparently you can with the builtin sco | |
| 17:18 | chris | yeah sounds dangerous |
| 17:18 | chris_n | very |
| 17:18 | chris | checkin and then leave with the book |
| 17:18 | chris_n | yup |
| 17:19 | * wizzyrea | makes the zoidberg noise: "woop woop woop woop" |
| 17:19 | chris | should be off by default |
| 17:19 | chris_n | also allows circumvention of the renewal limits |
| 17:19 | chris: isn't there a syspref to control that? | |
| 17:19 | chris | maybe |
| 17:19 | but it should be off by default | |
| 17:20 | it might be that you have to turn it off ... you should have to turn it on | |
| 17:20 | is what i want checked :) | |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]E&feature=related |
| 17:21 | this noise | |
| 17:21 | (please don't watch the whole thing) | |
| 17:21 | jcamins | wizzyrea: why? |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | because it's 11 minutes of zoidberg going woop woop woop |
| 17:22 | and you might go a bit batty. | |
| 17:22 | jcamins | No, *that* I understood. |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 17:22 | jcamins | I was asking more generally, why? |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | why not? |
| 17:22 | * wizzyrea | might be feeling obtuse. |
| 17:23 | wizzyrea | better than acute, I guess. |
| 17:23 | jcamins | :) |
| 17:25 | chris | so can anyone confirm the multiple connects from the same ip/subnet to irc now works? |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | un moment |
| 17:25 | chris | seems to from here, but i want signoff :-) |
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| 17:26 | * chris_n | will have to investigate further, but there does not appear to be such a syspref |
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| 17:26 | jcamins | How many of me are connected now? |
| 17:26 | liz2 | I have 5, what was teh limit |
| 17:27 | chris | used to be 4 |
| 17:27 | * chris_n | thinks we can really get things done now |
| 17:27 | chris | so looks fixed to me |
| 17:27 | chris_n | with so many people |
| 17:27 | liz1 | omg there are so many of me |
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| 17:27 | * jwagner | pokes head in, sees lots of clones! |
| 17:27 | chris | cool, time to go put out the rubbish, and make the kids breakfast |
| 17:27 | thanks for testing | |
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| 17:27 | chris_n | quitters! |
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| 17:27 | chris_n | :) |
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| 17:28 | jwagner | And I thought we could get five times the work done.... |
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| 17:28 | * jwagner | goes back to arguing with data mapping now, sigh |
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| 17:28 | jcamins | Did I get all of my clones? |
| 17:28 | Looks like it. | |
| 17:35 | chris_n | @quote add chris: friends don't let friends use proprietary software. |
| 17:35 | munin | chris_n: The operation succeeded. Quote #115 added. |
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| 17:39 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 17:45 | cait | reading back |
| 17:46 | wizzyrea: we do check-ins on the self-check | |
| 17:46 | wizzyrea: I think it's agood feature, but perhaps we need to add a pref to check for "had item checked out until renewal limit on the same day" or something like that | |
| 17:46 | if you want to prevent them from doing that | |
| 17:47 | I think most libraries will allow you to check out the book again when nobody has a reserve on it and you have showed it to them once | |
| 17:54 | * cait | talks to herself ;) |
| 18:02 | chris | i do think there should be a pref to disable checkins on self check though |
| 18:04 | cait | for sip you can do that in the config file |
| 18:04 | chris | yes, but we need one for the sco bit |
| 18:04 | cait | ok |
| 18:05 | academy today? :) | |
| 18:07 | chris | yep, for the morning |
| 18:07 | then they are off to weta for the afternoon | |
| 18:07 | cait | weta? |
| 18:08 | chris | http://www.wetafx.co.nz/about/ |
| 18:08 | sekjal | can anyone confirm that fines originally posted in 2010 are still accruing in 2011? |
| 18:09 | chris | none of my clients have advised me otherwise, and it would be the first year that ever happened if it wasnt |
| 18:09 | ill go look in a couple of dbs | |
| 18:09 | sekjal | thanks, chris |
| 18:10 | I had one client notice this, and I think I've found the same behaviour on another server | |
| 18:11 | chris | it shouldnt care about the date the fine started, but the date the item is due |
| 18:11 | cait | sekjal: got a fine on a sunday today! have to check again tomorrow :( finesCalendar was set to noFinesWhenclosed |
| 18:11 | decided to go home after I saw that in my report | |
| 18:12 | chris | and you have all sundays set in the calendar as a holiday eh? |
| 18:16 | cait | yep |
| 18:16 | in the library's calendar | |
| 18:16 | wanted to check again tomorrow with standard set too | |
| 18:16 | chris | good idea |
| 18:17 | cait | but this fines and notices will drive me crazy one day |
| 18:20 | hm and my report was not paginating... it was really time to leave | |
| 18:20 | chris | sekjal: it seems ok at hlt |
| 18:21 | sekjal | thanks for checking, chris. |
| 18:21 | this is freakin' weird | |
| 18:23 | pastebot | "chris" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "Fines" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/123 |
| 18:23 | chris | running some sql like that might help you |
| 18:24 | sekjal | chris: does your fines.pl script run around 8:30am? |
| 18:24 | chris | yup |
| 18:24 | sekjal | ok |
| 18:25 | for dates from last year, the timestamp get stuck on the last day they were open; no more updates are made by fines.pl, just sometimes by librarians. | |
| 18:28 | does HLT use the calendars for calculating fines? | |
| 18:30 | chris | weird |
| 18:30 | i dont think so | |
| 18:31 | is it doing fines for new ones? | |
| 18:31 | sekjal | I believe so... let me confirm |
| 18:31 | chris | is it only ones that were due last year that are problem? |
| 18:32 | cait | what is your finescalendar setting? |
| 18:32 | sekjal | noFinesWhenClosed |
| 18:33 | cait | chris ? |
| 18:33 | ibot | chris is awesome or a real world traveller |
| 18:34 | sekjal | I'm not seeing new fines with dates after the new year. lost item charges and the like, sure, but not new fines charges |
| 18:34 | cait | have you checked the calculation in fines.pl? |
| 18:35 | chris | right so its all items |
| 18:35 | no fines | |
| 18:35 | ? | |
| 18:35 | fines.pl runs at 1.05am ive found | |
| 18:35 | sekjal | wait, no, I'm seeing fines from 19-01 |
| 18:36 | pastebot | "chris" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "select * from accountlines whe" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/124 |
| 18:36 | chris | yeah, cos thats definitely working fine at hlt |
| 18:36 | ok i have to go catch a bus, ill try to look more at work | |
| 18:37 | sekjal | thanks, chris, have a good ride |
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| 19:06 | chris | My stop bbiab |
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| 19:33 | chris | back |
| 19:37 | cait | I don't get it |
| 19:38 | can someone create a new order in koha head and tell me how the calculation works? i have tax and discount set to 10% | |
| 19:40 | chris | hmm probably want one of the biblibre people, or robin |
| 19:40 | both of whom arent here | |
| 19:41 | cait | yeah, was testing robin's patch |
| 19:42 | I get 10.0 8.74 - 7.97 | |
| 19:42 | 7.87 | |
| 19:42 | the last one, not 7.97 | |
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| 19:53 | paul_p | hello world |
| 19:53 | i'm about to flood patches ml with patches ;-) | |
| 19:53 | fixes for 5575 + patches for splitted biblibre_about branch | |
| 19:58 | chris | ill apply the 5575 ones to the branch and push it |
| 19:58 | paul_p: you shouldnt need to use mibbit anymore, i think ive fixed the limit on connections | |
| 19:59 | * paul_p | checks immediatly |
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| 20:00 | paul_p_ | chris++ |
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| 20:01 | paul_p_ | well, in fact I can't check the limit is gone, because i'm in an hotel, not at office |
| 20:01 | but will check later | |
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| 20:02 | chris | i got jcamins and wizzy to test they had 5 clones connected each, so i think should be ok :) |
| 20:03 | * jcamins | thinks it's probably good that it wasn't cait and jcamins... that would've been a lot of talk about analytics. ;) |
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| 20:03 | cait | hehe |
| 20:03 | at the moment I would be happy to talk about price calculation | |
| 20:05 | ah, I think I found it | |
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| 20:05 | cait | my euro rate as not set to 1 |
| 20:05 | chris | johnboy: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]22056b84ff71583ee |
| 20:05 | cait: ahhh that would do it | |
| 20:05 | cait | yep, that was the problem |
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| 20:10 | Nate | hi #koha |
| 20:10 | chris | hi Nate |
| 20:10 | Nate | demoing Koha to a library in CT! |
| 20:10 | say hi | |
| 20:10 | paul_p | hello cait & Nate |
| 20:10 | cait | hello paul_p |
| 20:10 | owen | Hi CT! |
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| 20:11 | cait | hello Nate and CT :) |
| 20:11 | paul_p | chris, do you have recieved the 6 mails sent to koha-patcheskoha-community.org now ? |
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| 20:11 | jcamins | Hello, CT. |
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| 20:13 | druthb | Hi, Nate, and the folks in CT! |
| 20:13 | paul_p | seems yes, they are in http://lists.koha-community.or[…]nuary/thread.html |
| 20:13 | but i've nothing in my own mailbox. (I was afraid to have a pb with smtp not enabled on my wifi) | |
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| 20:15 | chris | i got 6 mails paul_p |
| 20:15 | paul_p | ok, will continue with the "various" branches, but I have to file bugs before |
| 20:16 | + looking at a match Marseille/Auxerre (semi final of the french league cup) | |
| 20:16 | so don't expect me to be too efficient ;-) | |
| 20:18 | cait | hmpf some ideas about tax? |
| 20:18 | looking at the code I thought list price dont include + tax rate should work | |
| 20:18 | but I only get the discount calculated | |
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| 20:46 | owen | /nick |
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| 20:47 | claudia | thanks |
| 20:47 | cait | hi claudia |
| 20:48 | claudia | hi cait |
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| 20:58 | cait | chris: bug 2865 |
| 20:58 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2865 major, P3, ---, chris, NEW, Acquisitions: GST not calculating correctly. |
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| 21:00 | cait | chris: any update on this? I am also not sure that gst really works - is this patch available somewhere? |
| 21:03 | chris | you'll need to ask robin when he is back |
| 21:05 | * chris | has lost track, too much to keep track of, im down to just tracking things that are signed off |
| 21:06 | cait | ook, when will robin be back? :) |
| 21:06 | chris | 2 weeks |
| 21:06 | cait | hmpf. |
| 21:06 | chris | you could have a look in the git.catalyst repo too |
| 21:06 | if it exists it should be in there | |
| 21:06 | cait | ok |
| 21:06 | chris | check the hlt branch |
| 21:07 | cait | trying to understand jo's spreadsheet |
| 21:07 | I think the budgeted cost should be what the library is going to pay for the book - I would think list price + gst - discount | |
| 21:07 | just thinking loud so someone can disagree | |
| 21:08 | jcamins | cait: I don't know much about budgets, but isn't shipping listed separately? |
| 21:08 | I'd think some libraries would include shipping in their budget. | |
| 21:08 | (per-basket, not per-book, though) | |
| 21:09 | cait | oh there is no way to add shipping costs at the moment |
| 21:09 | so I don't even start talking about that ;) | |
| 21:09 | jcamins | cait: oh. |
| 21:09 | Well, as I said, I don't know much about budgets. | |
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| 21:09 | cait | thx for trying ;) |
| 21:10 | jcamins | What am I doing? |
| 21:11 | cait | not sure |
| 21:11 | jcamins | I hate it when I stop typing half-way through a word, and don't know what the word was supposed to be. |
| 21:11 | cait | oh |
| 21:11 | want a cookie? | |
| 21:11 | jcamins | Yes please. |
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| 21:17 | * cait | sends jcamins a big chocolate chip cookie |
| 21:17 | jcamins | Thank you! |
| 21:17 | :D | |
| 21:18 | cait++ # for cookies | |
| 21:18 | cait | apparently it's all I am able to do ... |
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| 21:24 | chris | hi ronald |
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| 21:27 | ronald | hiya chris |
| 21:31 | cait | chris: I think I found the patch - trying to figure it out |
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| 21:42 | chris | cool |
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| 22:24 | chris | wb Nate |
| 22:24 | Nate | Hi Chris! |
| 22:35 | sekjal | goodnight, #koha! |
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| 22:53 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
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| 22:59 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 23:00 | hudsonbot | Starting build 308 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 23:04 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327: Shifting and little tidy up of the members tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2c772c3562c560fc2> / Bug 5327 Some tests added <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c246514cea444df12> |
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| 23:26 | * johnboy: Bug 5327 Some tests added | |
| 23:26 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: Shifting and little tidy up of the members tests | |
| 23:28 | chris | 49.9% |
| 23:28 | Nate | goodnight #koha! |
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