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| 00:13 | cait | ok, really really time to sleep - good night all :) |
| 00:13 | chris | night |
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| 00:16 | * druthb | is gonna head out, too. still cranking on indexing, so I think I'm gonna goof off a while. |
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| 02:46 | Silens | http://www.isbn.org/converterpub.asp |
| 02:47 | Sorry, I posted the link in the wrong channel. | |
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| 03:03 | Brooke | kia ora |
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| 03:15 | * Brooke | waves to glernil |
| 03:15 | glernil | good day from the philippines! |
| 03:15 | Brooke | :) |
| 03:17 | * Brooke | beams at spelling kaitiaki without a blink of the eye |
| 03:21 | chris | heya |
| 03:21 | about to push our first unit test! | |
| 03:21 | * Brooke | salutes Chris |
| 03:24 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03joseph.zachariah.sim 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-527-g53a301b 10/ (C4/Koha.pm t/Koha.t): Bug 5327 - Adding UNIT Tests. |
| 03:24 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
| 03:30 | hudsonbot | Starting build 291 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 03:34 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327 - Adding UNIT Tests. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a6d5a3b2539380ccb> |
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| 03:53 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #291: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/291/ |
| 03:53 | Zach Sim: Bug 5327 - Adding UNIT Tests. | |
| 03:53 | * Silens | shouts YAY! |
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| 03:59 | Brooke | hmmm, disentangling this planning bs requires more chocolate... |
| 04:03 | chris | day 1, and 1 unit test already, thats what i was aiming for, for the whole week |
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| 04:05 | * Brooke | wants some absinthe. |
| 04:07 | * chris | goes to catch bus |
| 04:08 | Brooke | cheers |
| 04:11 | * ibeardsle | wanders away for the day happy with the success of the Academy students. |
| 04:11 | Brooke | :) |
| 04:11 | may their minds be poisoned | |
| 04:12 | err voluntarily turned towards cooperative enterprises for the betterment of society. | |
| 04:12 | ibeardsle | have you seen the comuterworld article on the academy? |
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| 04:13 | Brooke | mebbe |
| 04:13 | ibeardsle | especially one person's comments |
| 04:13 | Brooke | Chris was doing a fair bit o braggin. |
| 04:13 | * Brooke | 's mind is mush at the moment. |
| 04:13 | Brooke | I'm just glad it exists |
| 04:14 | ibeardsle | the mind? yeah they are handy |
| 04:14 | Brooke | were you here for Cait and I getting extremely jealous of the Academy kids? |
| 04:14 | ibeardsle | when was that? today? |
| 04:14 | Oak | \o |
| 04:14 | Brooke | hi Oak |
| 04:14 | nah this was a good bit ago | |
| 04:14 | Oak | hiya Brooke, long time |
| 04:14 | * Brooke | is a tosser. |
| 04:15 | ibeardsle | Brooke: nah, I've only popped into this channel today |
| 04:15 | Brooke | well drop by more often |
| 04:15 | Oak | WerdNet says tosser means jerk-off (?) |
| 04:15 | Brooke | yep |
| 04:16 | that is exactly it more or less | |
| 04:16 | I *ought* to have been looking at this stuff sooner | |
| 04:16 | Oak | cool |
| 04:16 | Brooke | but I wanted to see if inspiration would rescue me |
| 04:16 | (didn't) | |
| 04:17 | ibeardsle | the white knight of inspiration failed eh? |
| 04:18 | Brooke | mustn't sneak "Participation is not for the faint of heart" in here... |
| 04:18 | ha if only inspiration were a man | |
| 04:18 | that'd make things easy. | |
| 04:19 | ibeardsle | heh |
| 04:20 | one of the students was talking about trying to work through a couple of test tonight .. that's the sort of inspiration that people can take heart in | |
| 04:20 | Brooke | :) |
| 04:20 | indeed | |
| 04:30 | * chris | catches up on mail on the bus |
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| 04:38 | * Brooke | waves to chilts |
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| 05:09 | Brooke | hi folks |
| 05:10 | Amit | hi Brooke |
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| 05:14 | Brooke | how's it going Amit? |
| 05:16 | Amit | Brooke everything is fine here what about u? |
| 05:17 | * Brooke | is mashing the keyboard vainly hoping that Shakespeare comes out. |
| 05:26 | Brooke | YES |
| 05:26 | finally | |
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| 05:26 | Brooke | the bs is coming :D |
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| 05:57 | Brooke | goodnight #koha |
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| 06:07 | Silens | /nickserv identify |
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| 06:26 | chris | right now to test out the new unit test |
| 06:29 | * chris | refactors C4::Koha |
| 06:37 | chris | im going to intentionally cause some test to fail, so students can fix it tomorrow |
| 06:41 | Amit | heya chris |
| 06:42 | chris | hi Amit |
| 06:43 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03colin.campbell 07new/bug_5403 * rv3.02.00-528-g3e19dd7 10/C4/ (Biblio.pm Koha.pm): Bug 5403 Remove DisplayISBN and GetPublisherNameFromIsbn |
| 06:43 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5403 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, C4::Koha::DisplayISBN should be wrapper for Business::ISBN->as_string |
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| 06:45 | chris | hiya cait |
| 06:45 | cait | morning chris :) |
| 06:45 | patches! :) | |
| 06:45 | hudsonbot | Starting build 292 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 06:46 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5403 Remove DisplayISBN and GetPublisherNameFromIsbn <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4df7332261e773826> |
| 06:47 | chris | this patch should break a unit test, which is by design, so I can use that as a teaching tool for tomorrow |
| 06:50 | cait | :) |
| 06:50 | wish I could be there | |
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| 07:08 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:08 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -1.0�C (8:00 AM CET on January 17, 2011). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029 hPa (Falling). |
| 07:08 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #292: UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/292/ |
| 07:08 | Colin Campbell: Bug 5403 Remove DisplayISBN and GetPublisherNameFromIsbn | |
| 07:08 | cait | very foggy outside |
| 07:12 | hope I don't get lost - bye chris :) | |
| 07:13 | chris | cya cait |
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| 07:52 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03dpavlin 07new/bug_4920 * rv3.02.00-529-g7fd0628 10/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/neworderempty.tmpl: Bug 4920 - neworderempty.tmpl shouldn't call calcNeworderTotal() onload |
| 07:52 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4920 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED, neworderempty.tmpl shouldn't call calcNeworderTotal() onload |
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| 07:58 | chris | hi hdl |
| 07:58 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03chrisc 07kcmaster * rv3.02.00-530-geae38fa 10/docs/history.txt: Adding a new developer to the history |
| 07:58 | hdl | hi chris |
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| 08:07 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Adding a new developer to the history <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7e5a50ec17f42e018> / Bug 4920 - neworderempty.tmpl shouldn't call calcNeworderTotal() onload <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1cd761733e3383fef> |
| 08:15 | hudsonbot | Starting build 293 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #291 4 hr 44 min ago) |
| 08:22 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03colin.campbell 07new/bug_5026 * rv3.02.00-531-g64e8297 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Bug 5026 Undefined dates formatted poorly in serials-edit |
| 08:22 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5026 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Undefined dates not formatted in serials update |
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| 08:24 | magnus | kia ora, #koha |
| 08:24 | hdl | hi magnus |
| 08:24 | chris | hi magnus |
| 08:24 | magnus | bonjour hdl |
| 08:24 | ata marie chris | |
| 08:28 | 125 developers - woohoo! ;-) | |
| 08:29 | hdl | 125 persons which code got into Koha. |
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| 08:30 | chris | is that really a distinction worth making? |
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| 08:37 | hdl | in my opinion, it is a big distinction. |
| 08:38 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #293: STILL UNSTABLE in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/293/ |
| 08:38 | * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 4920 - neworderempty.tmpl shouldn't call calcNeworderTotal() onload | |
| 08:38 | * Chris Cormack: Adding a new developer to the history | |
| 08:38 | chris | hdl: how do you qualify a developer? |
| 08:39 | who is the judge? | |
| 08:39 | hdl | to me distinction is between active and historical developers. |
| 08:40 | I donot judge. | |
| 08:40 | Nahuel is now historical developer for instance. | |
| 08:40 | chris | doesnt make him not a developer |
| 08:42 | hdl | I donot say he is not. |
| 08:42 | I say he has been. | |
| 08:43 | chris | ahh you didnt make that clear, you said we didnt have 125 developers, (note no one said active) you said we had 125 people who got code into koha, implying that some of them were not developers |
| 08:44 | hdl | I never said that. |
| 08:44 | I said that they once got code into Koha... | |
| 08:45 | tmpl_process has been committed by someone once, but maintenance was done on that by other folks afterwards. | |
| 08:45 | chris | ok im bored of arguing |
| 08:46 | 21:29 < magnus> 125 developers - woohoo! ;-) | |
| 08:46 | 21:30 < hdl> 125 persons which code got into Koha. | |
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| 08:46 | hdl | I am not arguing |
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| 08:51 | kf | good mornign #koha |
| 08:53 | magnus | guten morgen kf! |
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| 08:57 | kf | hi magnus :) |
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| 09:20 | kf | hi dabi |
| 09:20 | hi davi | |
| 09:20 | davi | hi kf |
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| 09:23 | chris | marcelr: theres something a bit weird with the last patch you sent |
| 09:24 | did you mean to base64 encode it? | |
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| 09:30 | pastebot | "chris" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "Bug 5399 Patch wont apply" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/122 |
| 09:30 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5399 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, remove useless eval 'use C4::Foo' |
| 09:31 | marcelr | chris: i will check |
| 09:45 | chris: sent it again; removed some weird chars; again had a problem with the cc to galen in git send-email | |
| 09:47 | chris | oh? what did it do? |
| 09:47 | marcelr | complaining about gmcharlt at gmail although i edited that |
| 09:52 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03gmcharlt 07new/bug_5399 * rv3.02.00-532-g4532ca7 10/acqui/ (addorderiso2709.pl basketgroup.pl): Bug 5399: remove useless eval 'use C4::Foo' |
| 09:52 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5399 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, remove useless eval 'use C4::Foo' |
| 09:53 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5399 * rv3.02.00-533-g12741cf 10/acqui/basketgroup.pl: Bug 5399: Follow up style patch, moving exits out of subroutine |
| 10:07 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5399: Follow up style patch, moving exits out of subroutine <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]63c18346cb8507873> / Bug 5399: remove useless eval 'use C4::Foo' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d9fec5d7e7b4f4317> / Bug 5026 Undefined dates formatted poorly in serials-edit <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh |
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| 10:15 | hudsonbot | Starting build 294 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #291 6 hr 45 min ago) |
| 10:15 | kf | monday++ |
| 10:24 | @quote random | |
| 10:24 | munin | kf: Quote #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)" (added by chris at 07:59 PM, June 23, 2009) |
| 10:25 | magnus | hehe |
| 10:39 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #294: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/294/ |
| 10:39 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 5026 Undefined dates formatted poorly in serials-edit | |
| 10:39 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 5399: remove useless eval 'use C4::Foo' | |
| 10:39 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5399: Follow up style patch, moving exits out of subroutine | |
| 10:41 | kf | Amit: around? |
| 10:49 | wasabi | magnus: how is your 2.2 upgrade going? |
| 10:50 | magnus | wasabi: all my upgrades to 3.2.2 were successful, thanks! |
| 10:50 | i think kf still have some to do | |
| 10:50 | wasabi | oh my, what a clever man! |
| 10:50 | i just did one yesterday too | |
| 10:51 | i am going to write my notes down somewhere, berfore i forget them again | |
| 10:52 | we should compare our methods | |
| 10:52 | 2.2 upgrades are a black-art | |
| 10:53 | kf | we are only upgrading from 3.1.61 - so it's quite easy |
| 10:53 | perfect updatedatabase protocol :) | |
| 10:56 | magnus | ah, sorry wasabi, i thought you meant 3.2... stupid me. |
| 10:57 | i'm doing one from 2.2.9 to 3.2.2 where i'm only moving patrons, records and subscription info | |
| 10:57 | i'm having some issues with the records, encodings to be presice... | |
| 10:58 | wasabi | gotcha |
| 10:58 | yes, they can be very tricky | |
| 10:59 | yaz-iconv is a good tool, for that | |
| 10:59 | magnus | and they want some information to be moved from one field to another while we are at it |
| 10:59 | a ha, i havn't looked at that | |
| 11:00 | looks really cool | |
| 11:00 | http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/yaz-iconv.html | |
| 11:01 | wasabi | im a bit rusty on encoding debugging, and didnt write to much down :/ |
| 11:02 | i would try this script 1st…. | |
| 11:02 | perl ./misc/migration_tools/22_to_30/move_marc_to_biblioitems.pl | |
| 11:02 | … to build the bi.marcxml stuff | |
| 11:03 | from your 2.2 marc_subfield_table | |
| 11:03 | then take a look at what you've got | |
| 11:03 | magnus | :-) |
| 11:04 | so far i have tried to export the records from 2.2.9, mangle them with scripts and MarcEdit and then import into 3.2.x - with mixed results | |
| 11:05 | i think it mostly worked the last time i tried, but then i noticed some "clipped" fields in the most recent records - i wonder if that is double encoded utf8 or summat... | |
| 11:06 | wasabi | does the 2.2 bib data look ok? |
| 11:06 | or is it mangled too? | |
| 11:08 | have you tried this method? | |
| 11:08 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Upgrading_2.2 | |
| 11:08 | perl ./installer/data/mysql/update22to30.pl | |
| 11:09 | perl ./misc/migration_tools/22_to_30/move_marc_to_biblioitems.pl | |
| 11:09 | 1st script switches the tables to utf8 | |
| 11:09 | 2nd script, builds bi.marcxml from marc_subfield_table | |
| 11:10 | this method has been working good well, for me | |
| 11:10 | magnus | the first thing i tried was to upgrade everything with the scripts, yes, but i ran into some trouble there, don't really recall what kind though... |
| 11:12 | wasabi | ok, i would concentrate on re-testing that method |
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| 11:14 | wasabi | you may be creating encoding problems with your own marc-record creation process |
| 11:20 | magnus | yeah, that's why i switched to marcedit (on windows, *shudders*) |
| 11:22 | wasabi | ive never used it, and haven't needed to |
| 11:25 | ive never hit a bib-encoding problem i couldnt fix, using cmdline tools on a debian box | |
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| 11:34 | magnus | wasabi: good on you! if you'd like to document any tips and tricks on the wiki or something i'd be all ears! ;-) |
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| 11:39 | magnus | hiya ivanc and druthb |
| 11:39 | druthb | hi, magnus! |
| 11:40 | kf | hi druthb :) |
| 11:40 | druthb | :) |
| 11:40 | * druthb | pulls out a celebratory box of cookies, and shares. |
| 11:44 | wasabi | magnus: yes, i hope to do this |
| 11:44 | kf | druthb: do you one with lots of chocolate in htere? |
| 11:45 | magnus | druthb: what are we celebrating? |
| 11:45 | druthb | yes, kf. there are some chocolate-chunk ones in there. |
| 11:45 | magnus | wasabi: i know time is always an issue, but it would be really good to have |
| 11:45 | druthb | two go-lives this weekend. |
| 11:45 | magnus | ah, cool! |
| 11:45 | kf | do we need the 'sex' field in koha's borrower table for something? is it required? |
| 11:46 | mmmh | |
| 11:46 | magnus | kf: i have been asking myself the same question re the "ethnicity" field... |
| 11:46 | kf | yeah, but sex is in the form - ethnicitiy and the ethnotes field are relicts |
| 11:46 | like a loooooot of other database fields | |
| 11:47 | almost every table has columns we don't use anymore | |
| 11:47 | magnus | ah, true |
| 11:47 | you might want the sex field for statistics, maybe? | |
| 11:52 | kf | yeah, have suggested that now :) |
| 11:52 | discussing with library which fields they want to use and import | |
| 11:52 | magnus | ah |
| 11:53 | kf | will hide the fields they don't want to sue |
| 11:53 | use | |
| 11:53 | sue.. hmpf. | |
| 11:53 | time for a lunch break :) bbl | |
| 11:53 | kf is now known as kf_a | |
| 11:57 | magnus | same here |
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| 12:28 | * druthb | waves to her teammates. |
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| 13:15 | * kf | waves to Nate and sekjal |
| 13:16 | sekjal | hi, kf! |
| 13:16 | kf | nengard: I check out the 3.2.x branch and create a new database or restore a 3.2.x one I have dumped earlier |
| 13:17 | nengard: speaking about your email to the koha list :) | |
| 13:17 | nengard | kf - i need more info on how to do all of that :) |
| 13:17 | i need a step by step | |
| 13:17 | kf | nengard: this is what I do on my linux laptop - and I have different snapshots in my virtual box at work |
| 13:17 | so I can restore one of them and switch back and forth | |
| 13:18 | you can check out the branch like any other branch for testing | |
| 13:19 | the name is 3.2.x - so git checkout -b 3.2.x origin/3.2.x - for updating I do a git rebase origin/3.2.x instead of a git pull | |
| 13:19 | quite sure there are other ways to do it :) | |
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| 13:27 | jcamins | Is it possible to include the current date on notices? |
| 13:30 | kf | nope |
| 13:31 | but I think there is an enh request somehwere for that | |
| 13:31 | * kf | remembers having seen that somewhere |
| 13:32 | kf | bug 5197 |
| 13:32 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5197 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, today's date on notices |
| 13:32 | kf | I think it would be nice to have different templates for print and email notices... and the option to add a date to print notices. for email notices the date the email was sent makes more sense to me. |
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| 13:43 | hdl | nengard: I guess that you could use mykoha to create multiple instances on the same virtual machine. |
| 13:43 | jcamins | hdl: mykoha? |
| 13:45 | kf | jcamins: koha-commons package I think |
| 13:46 | jcamins | kf: ah. |
| 13:46 | hdl | jcamins: stuff that catalyst demoed at the koha-conf |
| 13:46 | mykoha create mmmm | |
| 13:46 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 13:47 | hdl | to create a new instance of koha on a machine. |
| 13:47 | * jcamins | wasn't at KohaCon. :'( |
| 13:47 | hdl | I have been unable to use that because of our UNIMARC and french requirements. |
| 13:48 | But should work pretty good for USMARC and all taht stuff | |
| 13:49 | kf | hdl: can you use it with git? |
| 13:49 | hdl | kf: I think so |
| 13:51 | kf | hm, have to try that sometime :) |
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| 13:55 | hdl | kf: as far as i know, mykoha is just writing configuration files. |
| 13:55 | and creating var directories. | |
| 13:55 | nengard | i'll see if i can figure this stuff out |
| 13:56 | but if someone wants to write detailed instructions on the wiki that would be greatly appreciated! | |
| 13:56 | magnus | isn't that the debian packages stuff, or is mykoha something different? the way i understood it catalyst use the packages to "automate" their mykoha offering? |
| 13:57 | kf | magnus: I think you are right |
| 13:57 | hdl | magnus: mykoha is included in the Koha code. |
| 14:00 | or is in the catalyst repository mykoha | |
| 14:00 | it provides some new commandlines | |
| 14:01 | basically, it is just a perl Makefile.PL and make; make install; | |
| 14:03 | magnus | hdl: is it related to the debian packaging? |
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| 14:05 | Fred | Hello |
| 14:05 | ibot | niihau, Fred |
| 14:06 | hdl | magnus: I donot think so |
| 14:06 | Fred | a happy new year to all Koha community |
| 14:07 | magnus | and happy new year to you too, Fred! |
| 14:08 | hdl: ok | |
| 14:08 | hdl | magnus: iirc, catalyst made a secondary package for mykoha |
| 14:10 | Fred | I am wondering about xslt stylesheets in 3.2 for intranet, is the one for search results display available? |
| 14:14 | magnus | hdl: yeah, there is a separate repo: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]oha.git;a=summary |
| 14:15 | so mykoha is the debian packages + something else/more on top | |
| 14:18 | larsw | the mykoha .deb is site-specific stuff on top of koha-common |
| 14:18 | (assuming nothing changed about that since I stoppped working on it) | |
| 14:23 | magnus | thanks larsw - i can't imagine they changed too much yet... |
| 14:23 | larsw | git would tell whoever is curious :) |
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| 15:31 | yitznewto | hi kohavians... is there a tut for indexing config someplace? I looked at the 3.2 manual, but couldn't wrap my head around the 3 zebra files. ... |
| 15:31 | my first use case is setting a bib loading match point on 035$a | |
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| 15:38 | slef | It's wet out! |
| 15:44 | nengard | not here |
| 15:44 | here it's just COLD! | |
| 15:55 | kf | yitznewto: you have to check if this file is indexed |
| 15:55 | hm not file, field | |
| 15:55 | oh, I am too slow... should scroll down first | |
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| 16:14 | Fred | is XSLTResultsDisplay really pointing to a stylesheet on intranet? |
| 16:20 | kf | Fred: I think there is not stylesheet for results/intranet at the moment |
| 16:21 | not=no | |
| 16:21 | Fred | yes, i ve just find the related bug for enhancement about it :) |
| 16:22 | thanks | |
| 16:22 | bug 4813 | |
| 16:22 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4813 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, implement XSLTResultsDisplay |
| 16:23 | kf | Fred: you can use the keyword-to-marc-mapping to enhance the result list in staff |
| 16:23 | using the subtitle keyword | |
| 16:25 | Fred | oh never tried this before |
| 16:31 | ok looks quite easy to use, thanks a lot! | |
| 16:38 | gmcharlt | XSLT exists for staff-side bib details |
| 16:38 | MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl | |
| 16:42 | Fred | i was looking for UNIMARC results in fact |
| 16:43 | gmcharlt | UNIMARCslim2intranetDetail.xsl also exists :) |
| 16:47 | Fred | yes i ve seen it :) but nothing about search results |
| 16:48 | gmcharlt | right, not currently available staff-side for either MARC21 or UNIMARC |
| 16:48 | Fred | yes, i can stop to look for it hehe :) |
| 16:49 | thanks a lot for ur help, bye all! | |
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| 16:56 | kf | hi sekjal |
| 16:56 | sekjal | hi, kf |
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| 17:08 | chris_n | syntax highlighting (almost) in git: http://tinyurl.com/4azhyc2 |
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| 17:11 | kf | hi chris_n :) |
| 17:11 | chris_n | heya kf |
| 17:12 | kf | ok, time to go :) see you all later |
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| 17:12 | chris | @later tell magnus yes mykoha just has site specific stuff, all the scripts are in koha-common, mykoha has the different stylesheets and a few extra bits like that |
| 17:12 | munin | chris: The operation succeeded. |
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| 17:43 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 18:54 | chris | Morning |
| 18:55 | nengard | hiya chris |
| 18:56 | druthb | hi, chris! :D |
| 18:58 | chris | Go lives done? |
| 18:58 | druthb | yup. Both sites are happy, but both are only-minimally running today--holiday for most folks. |
| 18:58 | tomorrow will be the true test. | |
| 18:59 | chris | It could go either way still |
| 19:00 | Re the cricket :) | |
| 19:00 | druthb | :) |
| 19:00 | chris | Ahh mlk day eh? |
| 19:00 | druthb | yup. |
| 19:01 | hdl | happy mlk day. |
| 19:01 | Going home. | |
| 19:01 | chris | Cya hdl |
| 19:04 | cait | hi chris |
| 19:04 | chris | Morning session at academy today is qa and testing |
| 19:05 | Then back onto project work in the afternoon, should be able to get at least 4 more patches in I reckon | |
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| 19:07 | * chris | was delighted how fast they all caught on |
| 19:07 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 19:09 | chris | The trick is get them hooked then hire them all when they finish uni :) |
| 19:10 | cait | :) |
| 19:12 | chris | 2 have 1 more year of high school yet |
| 19:13 | jcamins | chris: sneaky. Four years of summer interns from those. ;) |
| 19:13 | chris | :) |
| 19:14 | * chris | must do a writeup for the koha newsletter |
| 19:15 | nengard | yes |
| 19:16 | and everyone else needs to get me articles | |
| 19:16 | you all wanted the newsletter monthly! so send me something to publish!! :) | |
| 19:16 | * druthb | has run out of excuses for not submitting an article, I suppose. |
| 19:17 | nengard | your new company probably demands that you write for the newsletter |
| 19:17 | chris | Heh |
| 19:18 | Ill try to get a quote or 2 from the students | |
| 19:18 | * druthb | feels that, given the MLK holiday, this quote might be apropos at this point: "Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!" |
| 19:18 | nengard | LOL |
| 19:18 | jcamins | Ooh! I know! |
| 19:18 | chris | MLK++ |
| 19:18 | jcamins | chris: tell them that writing newsletter articles is an important part of open source. |
| 19:18 | chris | Hehe |
| 19:20 | druthb | At the very least, the Director of OS Education at my company will now feel free to hassle me *mercilessly* to get something with my byline.... |
| 19:21 | * jcamins | could write an article about jetlag: *ssssnnnnoooooooooorrrrreeeee* |
| 19:21 | chris | Ok my stop bbiab |
| 19:21 | druthb | I could write something about the tools I use, but since I write 'em as I go (with large doses of caffiene), it'd be an odd article. |
| 19:33 | slef | sounds like the co-op's internal newsletter... |
| 19:33 | nengard: I was planning another RFC Roundup | |
| 19:33 | nengard | awesome |
| 19:40 | gmcharlt | nengard: manual patches should go the the patches list, right? |
| 19:40 | nengard | yes please |
| 19:40 | gmcharlt | ok, there's one for you now |
| 19:42 | nengard | thanks! |
| 19:42 | oh gmcharlt i'm sorry | |
| 19:42 | i meant it goes to the docs patches list | |
| 19:42 | koha-docs | |
| 19:43 | but I'll take your patch anyway :) | |
| 19:43 | gmcharlt | gotcha |
| 19:46 | nengard | pushed: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ocs.git;a=summary |
| 19:46 | gmcharlt | thanks |
| 19:47 | hudsonbot | Starting build 37 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:51 | sekjal | anyway know how sensitive Koha is to Unicode normalization format? C, D, KC, KD? |
| 19:52 | jcamins | sekjal: my tests suggest very! |
| 19:53 | nengard | okay - nicole screwed up on git again ... how do i roll back something I pushed? |
| 19:53 | gmcharlt | IMO, code shouldn't expect any particular NF in the DB, and apply the desired normalization when it matters |
| 19:53 | roughly speaking, for most languages that NFC for OPAC display | |
| 19:53 | and (often) NFD for indexing and interchange | |
| 19:54 | nengard: git revert HEAD | |
| 19:54 | then git push | |
| 19:54 | nengard | will that revert the last commit i pushed? |
| 19:54 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 19:55 | nengard | thanks :) |
| 19:55 | sekjal | do we want different NF's for indexing and for display... hmmmm |
| 19:55 | gmcharlt | sekjal: most web browsers display characters with diacritics better if NFC is used |
| 19:56 | stripping diacritics for normalization is often easier if the data are received in NFD | |
| 19:56 | ideally, thems as are doing the displaying or the normalization would do the NF conversion themselves | |
| 19:56 | ... but you can't count on it | |
| 19:58 | sekjal | limiting to the context of MARC records: we display in more places in the code than we index, so it would probably be cheaper in some sense if the MARC were defaulted to NFC, and then explicitly converted to NFD for Zebra |
| 19:58 | gmcharlt | yep, but enforcing it is the tricky part |
| 19:58 | better to just explicitly do the conversion when emitting records - NF conversions aren't *that* expensive | |
| 19:59 | and considering that MARC21 technically mandates NFKD, I'm not sure I want to get into a debate as the to one true NF to use when storing the records :) | |
| 20:01 | cait | I always get confused by the abbreviations |
| 20:02 | but we had problems with display of umlauts - ended up changing our data to the right normlization for nightly imports - but z39.50 is still a problem | |
| 20:02 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #37: SUCCESS in 14 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Master_Branch/37/ |
| 20:02 | Nicole C. Engard: clarify that web-based SCO URL is based on OPAC, not intranet | |
| 20:02 | Starting build 38 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
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| 20:08 | Brooke | kia ora! |
| 20:08 | Happy Dr. King Day :D | |
| 20:08 | druthb | hi, Brooke! :) |
| 20:08 | cait | hi Brooke |
| 20:10 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03claudia.forsman 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-528-g81f9c49 10/t/Koha.t: Bug 5327 removing uneeded tests |
| 20:10 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
| 20:10 | Brooke | Wie geht's? |
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| 20:12 | * Brooke | waves to johnboy |
| 20:15 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #38: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Master_Branch/38/ |
| 20:15 | * Nicole C. Engard: add ids to other languages | |
| 20:15 | * Nicole C. Engard: Revert "add ids to other languages" | |
| 20:15 | * Nicole C. Engard: update ids in foreign language files | |
| 20:16 | johnboy | ... waves back but fails at using irc |
| 20:18 | * Brooke | muses about whether Nengard added egos and superegos as well to make things dynamic... |
| 20:18 | nengard | ? |
| 20:19 | Brooke | it was a *very* bad pun |
| 20:19 | nengard | one that went over my head |
| 20:27 | * sekjal | chuckles, a little late |
| 20:29 | * jcamins | looks back into #koha, and winces. |
| 20:29 | nengard | why wincing? |
| 20:29 | jcamins | The pun. |
| 20:31 | Brooke | let this be a lesson |
| 20:31 | nengard | oh |
| 20:31 | Brooke | the punning will continue until the release date is met |
| 20:31 | *whip crack* | |
| 20:31 | nengard | all that travel has shrunk my brain |
| 20:31 | i'm pretty slow now | |
| 20:31 | * jcamins | feels the same. |
| 20:33 | * sekjal | is working on bug 5533... wondering if fixing it will cause as much confusion as the bug itself |
| 20:33 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5533 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, marking item lost diff in two places |
| 20:33 | nengard | how so? |
| 20:34 | sekjal | should marking an item lost ALWAYS be associated with removing the issue record and adding a replacement fee to that patron? |
| 20:35 | nengard | yes |
| 20:35 | if it's lost why shouldn't it | |
| 20:35 | ? | |
| 20:35 | ibeardsle | policy |
| 20:35 | sekjal | the values of itemlost are user configurable, which means they could mean all kinds of things, depending on the library |
| 20:36 | nengard | k - but there is no way to set those |
| 20:36 | so it should act the same no matter where you mark it lost | |
| 20:36 | or it should allow for libraries to define that | |
| 20:36 | ibeardsle | makring something lost .. also have an option to add a replacement fee |
| 20:38 | sekjal | the longoverdue.pl script has an option in it for whether to charge the patron or not |
| 20:38 | and, in theory, that should be handling all the automatic long overdue marking | |
| 20:38 | nengard | oh |
| 20:38 | then so should the gui | |
| 20:39 | sekjal | so, the only time a library would need to manually change this is if the patron TELLS them it's lost |
| 20:39 | rather than them just assuming it's lost because it's 4 years overdue | |
| 20:39 | and if your patron is telling you they lost it, you may be more inclined to forgive them or reduce their fee | |
| 20:41 | Brooke | in especial if they tell us how witty we are |
| 20:41 | and bring chocolate | |
| 20:41 | I could imagine not charging people in a special Library | |
| 20:41 | but those would be the only cases. | |
| 20:41 | and it happens with enough rarity | |
| 20:42 | that one could wrestle with the computer to make it cooperate. | |
| 20:45 | hudsonbot | Starting build 295 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #291 17 hr ago) |
| 20:49 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5327' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2115f8700f0a8db9c> / Bug 5327 removing uneeded tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dc8eb27a3e5424bb0> |
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| 20:53 | cait | good night all :) |
| 20:53 | Brooke | tchus |
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| 20:54 | * Brooke | waves at hdl |
| 20:54 | Brooke | eep there's another s in thar |
| 20:54 | hdl | hi Brooke |
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| 21:00 | Brooke | laterz |
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| 21:01 | gmcharlt | FYI, looks like bugs.koha-community.org may have fallen victim to network issues with the hosting provider |
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| 21:07 | hudsonbot | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 21:07 | Project Koha_Master build #295: FIXED in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/295/ | |
| 21:07 | claudia: Bug 5327 removing uneeded tests | |
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| 21:11 | gmcharlt | and its back |
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| 22:26 | sekjal | cheers, #koha! |
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| 22:32 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03spartan0042 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-529-g3df7174 10/t/Auth.t: Bug 5327 Starting Unit Tests for Auth.pm |
| 22:32 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
| 22:39 | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5327' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f8c9aa1741a5bd6d3> / Bug 5327 Starting Unit Tests for Auth.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8300636391f1d2b5b> | |
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| 22:59 | chris | Silens: hows it going? |
| 23:00 | Silens | chris: good, looking for more tests to do. |
| 23:01 | chris | cool, if you are feeling brave |
| 23:01 | you can look in the db_dependent dir | |
| 23:10 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5327' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]01bf679fd83ed27bc> / Added extra unit tests to Debug.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]31ce9bc9861145b0d> / bug 5327 started testing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b25b6c4bfd894f011 |
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| 23:12 | spartaness: Bug 5327 Starting Unit Tests for Auth.pm | |
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| 23:38 | * johnboy: Bug 5327 Starting tests for BackgroundJob | |
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| 23:38 | * Zach Sim: Added extra unit tests to Debug.t | |
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| 23:48 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit32: Added extra unit tests to Debug.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8a108d397200f713c> / bug 5327 started testing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bbab5632c8abdb4ed> / Bug 5327 Starting tests for BackgroundJob <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]343c20860bea37efa> |
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