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| 00:00 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 4950 - checkbox should be removed when can't place a hold <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]74d04b858b78c4eae> |
| 00:01 | hudsonbot | Starting build 264 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 00:03 | chris | http://www.visionmobile.com/bl[…]getting-it-right/ |
| 00:08 | * gmcharlt | read that initially as "open source community is building a guide to getting it right", and wondered what the scope of "getting it right" could be |
| 00:08 | chris | heh |
| 00:08 | the joining a community is pretty bang on | |
| 00:24 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #264: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/264/ |
| 00:24 | Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4950 - checkbox should be removed when can't place a hold | |
| 00:27 | russ | chris: that is a good, well referenced article |
| 00:32 | chris | yep, pointed at by glynn moody, via david friggens |
| 00:39 | richard | heya russ |
| 00:41 | russ | howdy |
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| 01:01 | druthb | o/ |
| 01:01 | chris | heya druthb |
| 01:02 | while australia are busy being thrashed by england, its the perfect time to watch | |
| 01:02 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5kUPIbINbE | |
| 01:11 | robin | does it contain the ultimate TV cricket experience? Slow motion replays of people walking away. |
| 01:12 | chris | heh |
| 01:26 | druthb | nice video! |
| 01:31 | ricardo | I have to go to sleep now. Take care! :) |
| 01:32 | chris | cya ricardo |
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| 02:14 | thd | chris are you present? |
| 02:15 | chris | yep |
| 02:15 | thd | chris: Are you one of the moderators who can approve my koha mailing list message with too many recipients? |
| 02:15 | chris | which list |
| 02:16 | if its the main one, then yes | |
| 02:16 | thd | the koha list yes |
| 02:16 | chris | done |
| 02:16 | thd | How many recipients is too many? |
| 02:16 | chris | about 5 |
| 02:17 | it actually catches a lot of spam | |
| 02:17 | thd | I have exactly 5 including the list itself. |
| 02:17 | chris | must be 4 then :) |
| 02:17 | currently it catches people who have had their gmail account owned | |
| 02:18 | and are sending messages saying they are in spain and have lost their passport | |
| 02:19 | thd | I wanted to be certain to give specific attention to two principle opposing advocates and two concerned parties for the OpenNCIP / SIP 2 code issue. |
| 02:19 | chris | right |
| 02:19 | thd | opposing meaning on opposite sides from each other. |
| 02:20 | chris_n: had been the strongest advocate of some upgrade aside from myself. | |
| 02:20 | chris | i want agpl3 |
| 02:20 | but will settle for gpl3 | |
| 02:21 | and the patent protection it contains | |
| 02:21 | but i dont want to stay gpl2 | |
| 02:21 | thd | Compromise is immoral :) |
| 02:21 | The patent protection is quite weak | |
| 02:22 | chris | its stronger than what we have now |
| 02:24 | robin | oh, reminds me. I'm in Spain and I've lost my passport. |
| 02:25 | chris | heh |
| 02:35 | druthb | My new gig is as a government official in Nigeria. We're trying to transfer money out of the country, you see, to keep it safe from politcal upheaval. If you help us, you can keep some! :) |
| 02:37 | robin | druthb: Chris is already busy doing that for some relation of his. |
| 02:38 | druthb | ;-) |
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| 03:06 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 03:06 | robin | g'day |
| 03:06 | Brooke | how fare ye? |
| 03:07 | chris | hiya Brooke |
| 03:07 | robin | good enough for needing a nap. |
| 03:07 | Brooke | is it opposite day? |
| 03:08 | robin | yes? no? what's the right answer? |
| 03:08 | Brooke | whatever one matches good enough for a nap |
| 03:08 | since in my world bad day = nap/ | |
| 03:09 | robin | oh. I meant that it's good, but a nap for a few hours would improve it some. |
| 03:09 | druthb | hi, Brooke! :) |
| 03:09 | * Brooke | nods to druthb |
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| 03:40 | Amit | heya all |
| 03:40 | druthb | hi, Amit! :) |
| 03:41 | Amit | hi druthb |
| 03:42 | * Brooke | waves at amit. |
| 03:43 | Amit | heya Brooke |
| 03:44 | * Brooke | does not want to hazard a guess at the goings on downstairs. |
| 03:44 | Brooke | it *sounds* like plumbing |
| 03:44 | but there's a bit of sawing | |
| 03:44 | and a bit of chat.... | |
| 03:47 | druthb | a bit late for plumbing activity, other than emergencies, I'd think. |
| 03:51 | Brooke | then I certainly don't wish to know what's metal and being sawed through... |
| 03:51 | * Brooke | thinks the word we were missing earlier was "Tenet" or "Tenets" |
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| 04:37 | druthb | hi, Oak! :) |
| 04:37 | Oak | hiya druthb :) |
| 04:38 | \o | |
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| 05:40 | sunitab | i would like to generate a report where it will list all titles and copies of those titles hw to generate that report |
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| 06:48 | hdl | sunitab: use the report tool and create an SQL request |
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| 07:01 | francharb | hello all |
| 07:02 | Oak | hello francharb |
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| 07:58 | magnus | kia ora hdl and #koha |
| 07:59 | hdl | hi magnus |
| 08:04 | Amit | hi hdl |
| 08:04 | hdl | hi Amit. |
| 08:05 | Have you received my email. | |
| 08:05 | I thought I had sent it on 24th December. | |
| 08:05 | Amit | yes rec ur mail |
| 08:05 | but in french | |
| 08:05 | hdl | I know it would require translation. It will be done. |
| 08:05 | Amit | hmm |
| 08:06 | hdl | I will try to send it today. |
| 08:07 | I have tried with google translate. I have the text. Just need to make that fit | |
| 08:07 | (at least for acquisitions.) | |
| 08:08 | mainly : purpose is to add Invoice management. | |
| 08:08 | And search on data wherever possible | |
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| 08:41 | sunitab | hi hdl i tried but didnt get can u tell me what fields tobe added |
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| 08:42 | cait | morning #koha |
| 08:47 | magnus | hiya cait |
| 08:47 | chris | Evening |
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| 08:54 | cait | hi magnus and chris :) |
| 08:55 | magnus | good evening, chris |
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| 08:58 | cait | t |
| 09:00 | magnus | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 09:00 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0�C (9:50 AM CET on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:00 | chris | @wunder wellington nz |
| 09:00 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:01 | magnus | ooh, too bad about the showers |
| 09:05 | chris | Bit warm for sleeping too |
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| 09:08 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 09:08 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0�C (10:00 AM CET on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Light Freezing Drizzle. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
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| 09:14 | magnus | @wunder helsinki |
| 09:14 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is -3.0�C (10:50 AM EET on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow Grains. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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| 09:17 | magnus | i'll be there in two weeks, hopefully giving a small talk on "how to contribute to koha" http://lanyrd.com/2011/hmdc/ |
| 09:25 | chris | Ohh cool |
| 09:25 | Our last finnish developer set the bar pretty high :) | |
| 09:26 | magnus | hehe |
| 09:28 | i think there is some interest in koha in finland, at least on the grassroots level - they have a pretty monopolized library landscape, i think | |
| 09:28 | chris | That'd be cool |
| 09:30 | magnus | yeah you'd think the home of linus would be into free software... ;-) |
| 09:32 | i'll make some slides outlining the whole bug/rfc/git/patch/signoff/etc process maybe over the weekend and post them somewhere so people can have a look and correct me if they want | |
| 09:33 | chris | Sounds like a plan |
| 09:35 | magnus | :-) |
| 09:59 | cait | :) |
| 10:38 | larsw | magnus, nobody is a prophet in their home... or whatever the English version of that saying is; Linus is from Finland, so obviously Finland can't be serious about software freedom |
| 10:38 | magnus | larsw: yeah, an all too common phenomenon |
| 10:39 | larsw | magnus, interestingly, I am going to be in Helsinki 19th and 20th (well, leaving on the 20th) |
| 10:39 | magnus | and koha started in nz so nz libraries should be real sceptical about it... |
| 10:40 | larsw | magnus, if you have free time at some point, perhaps we should have coffee or lunch or something in Helsinki |
| 10:41 | out of curiosity, how are the Koha Debian packages holding up? | |
| 10:41 | magnus | larsw: that would be really cool, i'll arrive some time on the 18th and leave in the evening of the 20th... |
| 10:42 | larsw | magnus, my schedule while in Helsinki is somewhat unclear still, but could you e-mail me (liwliw.fi) when you know when you have free time? evenings are probably best for me; do you know where you'll be staying? |
| 10:44 | magnus | larsw: i will stay at rivoli jardin, just south of esplanadi. the conference is at suomenlinna, so we will be "stuck" there most of the time. i'll get in touch when i know when i will arrive etc |
| 10:44 | larsw | magnus, cool |
| 10:45 | magnus | yay! |
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| 13:16 | magnus_a is now known as magnus | |
| 13:17 | druthb | Hi, magnus! :) |
| 13:21 | magnus | hiya druthb |
| 13:30 | cait | hi druthb :) |
| 13:32 | druthb | :D howdy, cait! |
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| 14:01 | * druthb | waves to sekjal |
| 14:01 | sekjal | morning, druthb! |
| 14:18 | cait_a | morning sekjal :) |
| 14:18 | sekjal | morning, cait_a! |
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| 14:23 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 14:23 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0�C (3:00 PM CET on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:25 | druthb | @wunder 20852 |
| 14:25 | munin | druthb: The current temperature in Kemp Mill/Silver Spring, Silver Spring, Maryland is -1.4�C (9:25 AM EST on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:29 | magnus | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 14:29 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0�C (3:20 PM CET on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:30 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
| 14:30 | munin | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 10.0�C (7:00 PM PKT on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:30 | magnus | what it doesn't mention is the wind in bod�: "Near gale, 15 m/s" |
| 14:32 | * druthb | hands magnus an anchor, just in case. |
| 14:32 | magnus | thanks druthb - but this isn't too bad ;-) |
| 14:33 | druthb | wouldn't want you to blow away! :) |
| 14:36 | magnus | ;-) |
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| 14:43 | briceSanc | Hello all ! |
| 14:43 | do you use Koha in mod_perl? | |
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| 14:53 | magnus | briceSanc, from what i understand there are some problems in the code that makes it unsuited for mod_perl - http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Manager#mod_perl |
| 14:55 | jcamins_a | Is there not a dropdown for searching by place of publication on advanced search? |
| 14:58 | briceSanc | magnus, ok thanks for the link but nobody try to use it ? |
| 14:59 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 14:59 | jcamins | briceSanc: I think chris was poking at it. |
| 14:59 | Also BibLibre. | |
| 15:00 | briceSanc | ok |
| 15:00 | magnus | briceSanc: yes i think people have tried and found memory leaks and other nastiness. but i'm only passing on things i have heard here, maybe hdl could fill us in? |
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| 15:06 | thd | Hello paul_p |
| 15:06 | paul_p | hello thd |
| 15:07 | magnus | jcamins: http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/[…]xpanded_options=1 Publisher Location? |
| 15:07 | kia ora paul_p | |
| 15:07 | thd | Why can we not use both -a and -x with rebuildzebra.pl? |
| 15:08 | jcamins | magnus: but that doesn't allow you to choose. |
| 15:08 | thd | Are we not using XML with authority records? |
| 15:08 | jcamins | I mean, you select "Publisher location" in the dropdown, then have to type in the appropriate abbreviation. |
| 15:09 | magnus | jcamins: you are looking for a dropdown populated with all the publisher locations actually present in the database? i don't think i have seen that... |
| 15:10 | jcamins | I thought there was one with all the possibilities. |
| 15:10 | One for all the locations actually present in the database would be *even more amazing*, though. | |
| 15:10 | I guess I imagined the publisher location limit. | |
| 15:12 | magnus | "all the possibilities" - wouldn't that be a list of all named places in the world? ;-) |
| 15:12 | jcamins | No... |
| 15:12 | briceSanc | magnus, Thank you, I'll keep searching. |
| 15:13 | jcamins | http://www.loc.gov/marc/countr[…]untries_code.html |
| 15:13 | We could also limit it to the most probable ones, like we do with languages. | |
| 15:14 | thd | jcamins: We could create a value list of likely possibilities |
| 15:15 | Most publishing is quite concentrated in a few places where the major publishers are. | |
| 15:16 | jcamins | thd: yeah, that was my thought. |
| 15:16 | Well, actually, my thought was that we'd already done that, but clearly I was wrong. | |
| 15:16 | magnus | i guess i was thinking of 260$a... |
| 15:16 | thd | Eventually we should have a feature for browsing all the place names indexed. |
| 15:18 | jcamins | thd: agreed. |
| 15:19 | thd | magnus: It is MARC 21/NORMARC 260 $a about which jcamins has been asking |
| 15:19 | jcamins | thd: no, I was thinking of 008/15-17. |
| 15:20 | thd | 008 is much easier |
| 15:20 | 008 has a discrete value list | |
| 15:20 | jcamins | thd: yeah, that's why I thought we would have a dropdown. |
| 15:20 | magnus | yeah, a list of countries is easier to handle then a list of places... ;-) |
| 15:22 | thd | magnus: Even places in 260 $a are not especially difficult because major publishing is highly concentrated |
| 15:23 | jcamins | thd: though the rule that says "transcribe" makes early modern books rather challenging. ;) |
| 15:23 | thd | The difference is merely that 008 uses defined value lists and 260 $a is merely transcribed from the material |
| 15:24 | transcription and only transcription for some information is a difficulty | |
| 15:25 | gregglind | so, getting starting on koha dev on osx, feeling a bit overwhelmed. starting at http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]irtual-appliance/ . this reasonable? |
| 15:25 | and I need to install virtualbox too I assume? | |
| 15:26 | jcamins | gregglind: yes, and yes. |
| 15:26 | I have a Mac at home, and run Koha on Debian in VirtualBox for development. | |
| 15:26 | thd | We could do much with place name synonyms using existing geographic authority records |
| 15:26 | gregglind | I see on that link that one just updates the installation using the usual git stuff. |
| 15:27 | jcamins | thd: yeah, but that would require better support for authorities. |
| 15:28 | (which would be a very good thing, of course) | |
| 15:28 | gregglind: yes, you'll want to use git for updating, so that any developments can be submitted to the community. | |
| 15:28 | hdl | briceSanc: work on memory has not gonne too far at the moment |
| 15:29 | thd | jcamins: Better support for authorities is essential for finding things well without knowing exactly the right term in advance |
| 15:29 | hdl: Why can we not use both -a and -x with rebuildzebra.pl? | |
| 15:30 | jcamins | thd: agreed. |
| 15:30 | hdl | thd: I donot know. I allowed that for us |
| 15:30 | no problems | |
| 15:31 | briceSanc | hdl, ok but what is the problem with the memory ? |
| 15:31 | thd | hdl: You modified rebuildzebra.pl to not stop with both -a and -x? |
| 15:32 | magnus | briceSanc: i think circular dependencies are a problem - sekjal has been looking at those, i think? |
| 15:33 | sekjal | I did some work on identifiying which C4 modules used which others, and seeing if there were any cycles within that |
| 15:33 | there definitely are | |
| 15:34 | but I'm not sure if it's a problem | |
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| 15:35 | briceSanc | Do you have this error with mod_perl : Request exceeded the limit of 10 internal redirects due to probable configuration error. Use 'LimitInternalRecursion' ? |
| 15:35 | thd | sekjal: Is there an automated means of checking for such cycles? |
| 15:36 | sekjal | thd: I wrote a script that generates a .dot file, which can be viewed to find cycles |
| 15:36 | that's as fancy as I got | |
| 15:37 | thd | sekjal: What type of file is .dot file? |
| 15:37 | sekjal | graph |
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| 15:38 | hdl | briceSanc: other problem is with ZOOM. and xslt |
| 15:38 | sekjal | http://bywatersolutions.com/wp[…]p-new-colored.pdf |
| 15:39 | kind of intimidating... the next generation of my script intended to do some filtering to remove any modules that are not both used and using | |
| 15:40 | hdl | sekjal: have you tried Marc chantreux script ? |
| 15:40 | thd | hdl: How can XSLT have recursion problems assuming a finite document is being parsed and the upstream parser has no recursion bugs? |
| 15:41 | hdl | thd: XSLT calls C4::Search And C4::biblio |
| 15:41 | and C4::Search is calling C4::XSLT | |
| 15:41 | sekjal | hdl: no, not sure which script you mean. don't have it in my records |
| 15:41 | thd | hdl: OK C4::* can certainly have problems. |
| 15:42 | hdl | sekjal: i sent that script onlist some time ago maybe 2 months ago |
| 15:42 | sekjal | will check |
| 15:44 | ah, found it | |
| 15:46 | thd | good morning nengard |
| 15:46 | nengard | hiya |
| 15:46 | thd | I have a question about the copyright license invocation for the manual |
| 15:48 | It would be helpful to to follow the text linking to the copyright license with an or later version option clause. | |
| 15:49 | nengard: Do you understand to what I am referring? | |
| 15:52 | nengard are you still here? | |
| 15:57 | nengard | was testing patches |
| 15:57 | you want it to say GPL 3 or later? | |
| 15:58 | thd | Yes |
| 15:58 | nengard | no prob |
| 15:58 | will do | |
| 15:59 | thd | There is probably no reason the 3.2 manual will matter in 15 years or whenever GPL 4 comes out but you never know. |
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| 16:00 | jcamins | nengard: don't worry. _I_ think your manual will develop a cult following. ;) |
| 16:00 | thd | nengard: if jcamins is right then the or later version at your option clause is very important. |
| 16:01 | nengard: The sacred text of a new cult. The Koha 3.2 manual :) | |
| 16:01 | nengard | :) |
| 16:01 | goofy boys | |
| 16:01 | thd | nengard: Ideally there are some timeless sections. |
| 16:02 | * druthb | looks over at this window, catches up, waves at owen, and laughs a lot. |
| 16:02 | druthb | nengard, you'll be the high priestess of the cult. have to get you a box to stand on for the "high" part, maybe. ;-) |
| 16:03 | nengard | ha ha - and i don't want to be a priestess anymore than i want to do any mothering |
| 16:03 | jcamins | nengard: deity? |
| 16:03 | druthb | +1 |
| 16:03 | thd | nengard: My grandmother used to say that I was a goopus. |
| 16:03 | nengard: have you seen the goops books? | |
| 16:04 | jcamins | Argh! Field 751 is missing? |
| 16:04 | How is 751 missing? | |
| 16:05 | * owen | takes his work on Bug 4354 and dumps it in the garbage |
| 16:05 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4354 minor, P5, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Cannot edit existing issuing rules |
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| 16:05 | thd | jcamins: really? |
| 16:05 | jcamins | thd: I'm not seeing it. |
| 16:06 | * thd | checks |
| 16:06 | nengard | hmmm ... i got a strange error pushing the manual ... anyone understand this? |
| 16:06 | nicole-c-engards-macbook-pro:clonedoc nengard$ git push | |
| 16:06 | Counting objects: 27, done. | |
| 16:06 | Delta compression using up to 2 threads. | |
| 16:06 | Compressing objects: 100% (14/14), done. | |
| 16:06 | Writing objects: 100% (14/14), 1.53 KiB, done. | |
| 16:06 | Total 14 (delta 6), reused 0 (delta 0) | |
| 16:06 | To gitmastergit.koha-community.org:kohadocs.git |
|
| 16:06 | 8ea470c..d47f728 master -> master | |
| 16:06 | ! [rejected] manual3.2.x -> manual3.2.x (non-fast forward) | |
| 16:06 | error: failed to push some refs to 'gitmastergit.koha-community.org:kohadocs.git' |
|
| 16:06 | To prevent you from losing history, non-fast-forward updates were rejected | |
| 16:06 | Merge the remote changes before pushing again. See the 'non-fast forward' | |
| 16:06 | section of 'git push --help' for details. | |
| 16:07 | jcamins | nengard: yes, you did a git commit --amend after pushing. |
| 16:07 | nengard | no i didn't .... |
| 16:07 | I did a push and got that | |
| 16:07 | nothing after | |
| 16:07 | jcamins | After your previous push, I mean. Maybe? |
| 16:07 | That's what it means when I get that message. | |
| 16:07 | Or it means I've rebased. | |
| 16:08 | nengard | hmmm ... nope, never had to amend on the manual, strange |
| 16:08 | do i understand that right that the master was updated but not 3.2.x | |
| 16:09 | jcamins | I think so, yes. |
| 16:11 | nengard | i'm so confused, it says that i need to merge changes before pushing again .. but i do git status and have no changes to merge |
| 16:12 | owen | nengard: I see your question about rebasing other people's patches and I'd be happy to write up instructions |
| 16:13 | nengard | woo hoo :) thanks owen |
| 16:13 | jcamins | I don't know how to do it, but I think you probably need to pull what's currently in the repository, and then merge your local branch. |
| 16:13 | Not sure how that works exactly, though. | |
| 16:13 | nengard | i did this: git reset --hard origin |
| 16:13 | but it says the last commit was the one that failed | |
| 16:13 | but if you look at the log it's not there ... | |
| 16:14 | gonna have to ask gmcharlt, chris_n or chris :) | |
| 16:14 | magnus | huh? spam in pootle? http://translate.koha-communit[…]ce&sfields=target |
| 16:14 | jcamins | magnus: there's a ton of spam in the Russian. |
| 16:14 | cait | magnus: it has happened before |
| 16:15 | magnus | ok, i've just been lucky not to see it, then... |
| 16:15 | cait | I think chris cleaned the files from it |
| 16:16 | thd | jcamins: 751 subfields may have the wrong values for hidden. |
| 16:16 | chris_n | nengard: most likely you did some sort of git reset which has messed up the history |
| 16:17 | nengard | strange, i know that i've never done that on the manual (on my koha git sure - but not the manual) |
| 16:17 | so, how do we recover from this? | |
| 16:17 | jcamins | thd: no, they're not in the framework at all. |
| 16:18 | hudsonbot | Starting build 24 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:18 | thd | jcamins: they are in my uncommitted incomplete update of the framework |
| 16:18 | chris_n | nengard: do you have changes which are not pushed yet? |
| 16:18 | nengard | yes |
| 16:18 | i'm trying to push them and they keep getting rejected | |
| 16:19 | but it's not a big deal if i lose them | |
| 16:19 | it's a few characters - i can redo it | |
| 16:19 | chris_n | do this |
| 16:19 | git reset --hard HEAD | |
| 16:20 | nengard | nicole-c-engards-macbook-pro:clonedoc nengard$ git reset --hard HEAD |
| 16:20 | HEAD is now at d47f728 add note to licence to encompass future licenses | |
| 16:20 | which is actually not HEAD for the 3.2.x branch | |
| 16:20 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]heads/manual3.2.x | |
| 16:20 | it is the HEAD of the 'master' branch | |
| 16:20 | nicole-c-engards-macbook-pro:clonedoc nengard$ git branch | |
| 16:20 | bug5495 | |
| 16:20 | * manual3.2.x | |
| 16:20 | master | |
| 16:22 | chris_n | is it the last two commits to master that you want in 3.2.x? |
| 16:22 | you can do 'git log manual3.2.x' to see where the tip is currently in that branch | |
| 16:23 | nengard | it's the last commit to master that i want in 3.2.x (not the last 2) |
| 16:23 | wow, strange | |
| 16:24 | * chris_n | hangs on the edge of his desk |
| 16:24 | nengard | sent you the paste in a private message since it's so long |
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| 16:33 | briceSanc | hdl, magnus, sekjal, thank you for your answers, we will try to debug mod_perl and Koha, Do you have a script to help us? |
| 16:34 | hdl | briceSanc: The thing we tried is to use wip/Plack branch from wip/koha-biblibre.git |
| 16:35 | briceSanc | er question: What are the optimizations that can be made to Koha when we have thousands of users simultaneously (approximately 100) ? |
| 16:36 | hdl | use squid |
| 16:36 | there has been an interesting thread about that and answers from mason | |
| 16:36 | There is also usage of nginx | |
| 16:39 | magnus | there are some hints here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Tuning |
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| 16:41 | nengard | okey dokey chris_n rocks! the manual git repo is back in business |
| 16:41 | chris | I would recommend against squid, you are using iit as a reverse proxy, when it is designed as a forward proxy |
| 16:41 | nengard | chris_n++ |
| 16:41 | chris | It doesn't scale well |
| 16:42 | If you want a caching reverse proxy varnish is a lot better | |
| 16:43 | (Coming from the hundreds of thousands of concurrent users experience) | |
| 16:43 | chris_n | hmm... I know a researcher who uses 1000+ squids in reverse proxy mode to tap collector data off of CERN |
| 16:44 | chris | That's forward |
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| 16:45 | * chris_n | may be wrong... an all-to-often-true event |
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| 16:46 | chris | When you are serving content, 1 varnish will outperform 50 squids |
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| 16:46 | chris | When you are sucking content squid wins |
| 16:46 | owen | When you are serving sashimi, squid wins over varnish. |
| 16:47 | chris | That's what its designed to do |
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| 16:47 | chris | Using nginx and load balancing over multiple apaches is another way to do it |
| 16:47 | thd | jcamins: The last upates to the English MARC 21 frameworks in git were not by me and some people had introduced old errors or I could have goofed previously. |
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| 16:48 | thd | jcamins: LibLime was never willing to pay me to verify the accuracy of my own work systematically. |
| 16:49 | jcamins: I merely fixed errors as I found them but missing 751 is a large error which may have been the result of a careless edit. | |
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| 16:50 | jcamins | thd: I submitted a bug, so when I get a chance I'll try to get a patch out. |
| 16:50 | Oak | heya Brooke :) |
| 16:50 | Brooke | eyah |
| 16:50 | Oak | that sounds like a kick |
| 16:51 | thd | jcamins: I have some incomplete work from 2008 on an update for all the English MARC 21 frameworks but I had run out of time to finish it. |
| 16:51 | jcamins | thd: and there are all the new RDA fields, too... |
| 16:51 | chris_n | chris: actually those squids are serving content from two http servers |
| 16:51 | thd | jcamins: It took about 5 days as in 2008. |
| 16:52 | jcamins: I cannot commit the current state of that update because it needs some reconciliation with other prior changes to avoid breaking things. | |
| 16:52 | chris_n | http://frontier.cern.ch/squidstats/indexcms.html |
| 16:53 | for anyone interested | |
| 16:53 | thd | jcamins: It is also not self consistent which means more days work. |
| 16:53 | ibot | okay, thd. |
| 16:54 | jcamins | ibot: jcamins: it? |
| 16:54 | ibot | it is long or not self consistent which means more days work. |
| 16:54 | chris | chris_n: i posit then,he could replce them with 10 varnishes and outpeform his current rig :) |
| 16:54 | thd | jcamins: The big problem is that I forgot where I had left off, although, I could try to see from a diff. |
| 16:54 | jcamins | ibot: forget jcamins: it |
| 16:54 | ibot | jcamins, I didn't have anything matching jcamins: it |
| 16:54 | jcamins | ibot: it? |
| 16:54 | ibot | rumour has it it is long or not self consistent which means more days work |
| 16:54 | jcamins | ibot: forget it |
| 16:54 | ibot | jcamins: I forgot it |
| 16:54 | chris_n | chris: I'll pass the suggestion along :) |
| 16:55 | Brooke | oh ibot |
| 16:55 | you ensure my jester job security. | |
| 16:55 | thd | jcamins: RDA is becoming important. Does anyone want to sponsor my finishing the update? ;) |
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| 16:56 | chris_n | as another interesting aside, the software which does the data distribution from cern is foss |
| 16:56 | jcamins | thd: I am of the same mindset as my cataloging instructor... I was hoping to have retired by the time they implemented RDA. |
| 16:57 | chris | you probably will have |
| 16:57 | druthb | ibot: Brooke? |
| 16:57 | ibot | Brooke is important to us!! |
| 16:57 | jcamins | chris: woohoo! |
| 16:57 | druthb | hm. |
| 16:57 | Brooke | ibot: forget brooke |
| 16:57 | ibot | Brooke: I forgot brooke |
| 16:57 | druthb | ibot: Brooke? |
| 16:57 | ibot | wish i knew, druthb |
| 16:58 | thd | chris: Why can we not use both -a and -x with rebuildzebra.pl ? BibLibre are using both in a modified version with no apparent problem.? |
| 16:58 | druthb | It said something about the sweetest little lady south of the Potomac, earlier, Brook. |
| 16:58 | *Brooke. | |
| 16:58 | chris | because we dont have that modified version |
| 16:59 | Brooke | clearly has no idea what it's talking about :P |
| 16:59 | thd | chris: I had not considered until a moment ago that they may have modified more than rebuildzebra.pl. |
| 16:59 | chris: What was the reason for not use both -a and -x with rebuildzebra.pl ? | |
| 17:00 | s/use/using/ | |
| 17:00 | paul_p | chris, I suspect the patch for this is in BibLibre-various branch [but unsure] |
| 17:00 | [why the hell can't I open a parenthesis under mibbit...] | |
| 17:00 | [good morning chris and al though] | |
| 17:01 | thd | paul_p: Do you mean that rebuildzebra.pl is patched in BibLibre-various? |
| 17:01 | paul_p | thd yes it is |
| 17:02 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #24: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Master_Branch/24/ |
| 17:02 | Nicole C. Engard: add note to licence to encompass future licenses | |
| 17:02 | thd | paul_p: Do you know the original reason for not using both -a and -x with rebuildzebra.pl? |
| 17:03 | paul_p | thd: nope, definetly. And that's why I'm not sure it's in BibLibre-various {and even not sure it's somewhere. But if it is, it's on git.biblibre.com, definetly} |
| 17:07 | thd | paul_p: My check shows only 2 unrelated commits on git.biblibre.com for rebuildzebra.pl. |
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| 17:08 | paul_p | so we don't have this anywhere and I don't understand your "BibLibre are using both in a modified version with no apparent problem.?" |
| 17:09 | thd | paul_p: hdl reported to me earlier today that he allowed both to be used and had no problem. |
| 17:09 | paul_p | thd I don't know what he was speaking of, sorry |
| 17:10 | I just can promize that everything is on git.biblibre.com, or there's something I don't know ! | |
| 17:10 | thd | paul_p: The question is of indexing authority records in Zebra as MARCXML instead of ISO2709. |
| 17:10 | hdl | thd must be there |
| 17:11 | http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]2c22b63d09b0302cf | |
| 17:11 | thd | hdl: maybe my search was insufficient |
| 17:12 | hdl | thd: see there is not limitation on authorities for xml |
| 17:12 | indexing | |
| 17:13 | thd | hdl: OK, The only thing which concerns me is whether you have no problem because of some other changes. |
| 17:14 | hdl | I donot think so. I just discoverd it "happened" to work. |
| 17:14 | thd | hdl: I am presuming the code to stop both switches being used at the same time had originally been added for a good reason. |
| 17:14 | hdl | (And saw no reason why it should not) |
| 17:14 | oh... | |
| 17:14 | paul_p | thd maybe, but you can also presume the reason has disappeared and no on realized it ! |
| 17:15 | hdl | We still donot use both switches at the same time |
| 17:15 | because it still does not work... | |
| 17:15 | sekjal | as I recall, the inability of authorities indexing in XML is the DOM v. GRS-1 issue that authorities have |
| 17:15 | thd | hdl: OK. Well that is what I was trying to discover. |
| 17:16 | hdl | oh... unimarc is indexing authorities as GRS1 |
| 17:16 | thd | hdl: Presumably the problem is in how the *.abs file is configured. |
| 17:17 | sekjal | I remember dealing with this a long time ago, and it boiled down to unequal DOM support between biblios and authorities |
| 17:17 | but I could be wrong | |
| 17:18 | thd | sekjal: That must be the case but Zebra makes no distinction so it has to be Koha code or Koha Zebra configuration to account for the difference. |
| 17:18 | hdl | sekjal: is there any DOM support for biblios ? |
| 17:19 | thd | hdl: There is in tumer's code/fork :) |
| 17:19 | sekjal | hdl: no, no DOM support for biblios as far as I know |
| 17:19 | thd: I think its just a matter of us writing the right configurations for DOM biblios | |
| 17:19 | and no one has had the time yet | |
| 17:20 | hdl | yeah tumer+++++ |
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| 17:21 | thd | sekjal: Yes, I presume something like that to be the issue and hope that there is no hidden problem in Koha code. |
| 17:21 | hdl | (I had also a dom_config branch) |
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| 17:21 | hdl | using a dom2abs from indexdata. But this dom2abs is not coping with range attributes. |
| 17:22 | So 008 and 100$a and all those coded fields would fail. | |
| 17:22 | I thought I would fix that... But no time | |
| 17:23 | see http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]efs/heads/dom_wip | |
| 17:25 | thd | hdl: I expect to be improving Solr/Lucene support in future rather than Zebra unless we discover a great problem with Solr/Lucene. |
| 17:25 | paul_p | thd++ |
| 17:25 | ok, time to go back home and have some time with my loved wife and my 4 small monsters | |
| 17:26 | [oups, it's not a monster, it's my children/boy...] | |
| 17:26 | ;-) | |
| 17:26 | thd | paul_p: I am merely surprised that no one realised the lack of Unicode support for Zebra in 2005. |
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| 17:26 | thd | happy monster hunting paul_p :) |
| 17:26 | sekjal | time for some lunch. brb |
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| 17:33 | thd | At moment using both -a (index authorities) and |
| 17:33 | -x (export records as MARC XML) is not allowed - | |
| 17:33 | if the Zebra authority database is using the DOM | |
| 17:33 | filter, zebraidx will not be able to process the | |
| 17:33 | exported records correctly. | |
| 17:33 | http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]c4e8dffde167108bc | |
| 17:47 | chris | nengard: can you fix the clock on the system you send patches from? |
| 17:48 | its signing off on patches before they have been written (quite confusing) | |
| 17:48 | nengard | chris i try to remember to reset the time when i turn it on, but sometimes forget |
| 17:48 | it's not on all of the time | |
| 17:48 | chris | install ntpdate |
| 17:49 | or ntp | |
| 17:49 | and it will reset the time itself when it boots | |
| 17:49 | gregglind | fwiw, I am getting nowhere on installing the vitual image for koha for virtualbox on osx |
| 17:50 | owen | gregglind: Why not try installing from scratch? |
| 17:50 | gregglind | in either vdmk or vdi format. |
| 17:50 | chris | i would follow the link robin sent yesterday |
| 17:50 | jcamins | gregglind: I installed from scratch, and it was super easy, so perhaps you'd be better off trying that. |
| 17:50 | gregglind | I am sooooo lazy though |
| 17:50 | jcamins | I'd never used the appliances, so I just assumed it would be easier. |
| 17:50 | owen | Your sense of accomplishment will be empowering |
| 17:51 | gregglind | owen, I respectfully disagree. |
| 17:51 | nengard | gregglind i had huge problems too ... and not can't seem to figure out how to get another vm set up so i can have a 3.2 machine and a HEAD machine |
| 17:51 | jcamins | gregglind: moreover, you won't be so frustrated. |
| 17:51 | gregglind | I'm not frustrated *yet*, but this sort of thing should be even more streamlineable, which is a bit of critique I realize. |
| 17:52 | I do pretty sophisiticated packaging all day at work so my tolerance for it is quite low :) | |
| 17:52 | chris | well you could use the packages |
| 17:52 | if you used a real OS :) | |
| 17:52 | nengard | ntpdate installed |
| 17:52 | gregglind | fair enough. |
| 17:52 | chris | http://debian.koha-community.org/ |
| 17:52 | gregglind | but even then would be better to go from source. |
| 17:52 | jcamins | chris: it would be easy enough to install from the packages under VirtualBox. |
| 17:53 | chris | yup |
| 17:53 | jcamins | gregglind: but isn't your goal to run from git so that you can edit it? |
| 17:53 | gregglind | yes. |
| 17:53 | jcamins | gregglind: here's my suggestion. |
| 17:53 | Install the latest version of Ubuntu. | |
| 17:53 | (on VirtualBox) | |
| 17:53 | nengard | i had dinner with gregglind a few months ago and he was intrigued by Koha |
| 17:53 | jcamins | Have a coffee. |
| 17:53 | Or six. | |
| 17:53 | It took ages to download for me. | |
| 17:53 | gregglind | or rather, 'continue my day job' |
| 17:53 | jcamins | Anyway. |
| 17:54 | gregglind | I can do it all from there. |
| 17:54 | chris | id still install koha-common |
| 17:54 | gregglind | I am still learning how to set up the vbox |
| 17:54 | chris | that pulls in all your dependencies |
| 17:54 | then do a git clone | |
| 17:54 | gregglind | ah, that is wise, for deps |
| 17:54 | chris | and install koha from there, that way you dont monkey around |
| 17:54 | jcamins | chris: that's why I was suggesting Ubuntu. |
| 17:55 | chris | squeeze will work better |
| 17:55 | jcamins | Everything's already in the packages. |
| 17:55 | chris | everythings in packages, and in main, (not multiverse) |
| 17:55 | hence being checked by debian security people | |
| 17:55 | jcamins | chris: but don't you have to upgrade Debian to Squeeze still? |
| 17:55 | gregglind | how much ram will I really need? |
| 17:56 | chris | jcamins: you can just install squeeze now |
| 17:56 | jcamins | gregglind: at least 1GB for your host. |
| 17:56 | chris: really?!? Awesome! | |
| 17:56 | gregglind: I have 4GB, so I have the VirtualBox using 512. | |
| 17:57 | gregglind: to clarify, that's at least 1GB *total* RAM on the host. | |
| 17:57 | chris | jcamins: yeah you just get the iso for it |
| 17:57 | gregglind | Ah, I meant for the vbox :) 512 is what I was going to do. |
| 17:57 | jcamins | chris: neat. Last time I tried, I had to install Lenny and then upgrade. |
| 17:57 | gregglind | so any consensus here? Debian (which one?) vs. Ubuntu? |
| 17:57 | jcamins | gregglind: Debian Squeeze. |
| 17:58 | gregglind | I assume we don't need to track bleeding edge Postgres or anything :) |
| 17:58 | chris | jcamins: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 17:59 | chris | id go with the netinst version there |
| 18:00 | gregglind | Oy! |
| 18:02 | gmcharlt | slef: will any of the libraries you're working with participate in the union catalog of UK public libraries that OCLC just announced? |
| 18:02 | gregglind | okay, so I made an image for virtualbox, now I have to go find an installer and go through normal debian install? |
| 18:02 | is that really what the next step is? | |
| 18:02 | jcamins | gregglind: yep. |
| 18:04 | thd: around? | |
| 18:07 | gregglind | okay, maybe I will try this again later. |
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| 18:08 | owen | Are the UBUNTU install instructions accurate with regard to the current recommended way to run zebra? |
| 18:10 | chris | what does it say owen? |
| 18:10 | use the cron job? | |
| 18:10 | jcamins | They say to use rebuild_zebra, but the instructions don't tell people about the new markings file. |
| 18:11 | chris | new markings file? |
| 18:11 | jcamins | Uhhh... |
| 18:11 | owen | "it's recommended that you daemonize the Zebra process and add it to your startup profile." |
| 18:11 | jcamins | Maybe I imagined it. |
| 18:11 | I can't find the bug. | |
| 18:12 | No, I didn't. | |
| 18:12 | Bug 5520. | |
| 18:12 | chris | owen: yes that bit is right |
| 18:12 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5520 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, pianohacker, RESOLVED FIXED, No .packages file for Ubuntu Maverick |
| 18:12 | jcamins | The instructions should be updated for that. I didn't think of that until owen asked just now. |
| 18:12 | chris | owen: its just the rebuild_zebra bit you dont want daemonized |
| 18:14 | owen | Okay, thanks, I always get confused there |
| 18:15 | chris | yeah, its tricky |
| 18:15 | jcamins: good point | |
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| 18:42 | briceSanc | hdl, magnus, chris, thanks for your answers! |
| 18:45 | chris | np |
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| 18:51 | magnus | program from muriwai beach, nz on norwegian tv right now - don't think i'll ever go for a swim there... |
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| 18:54 | chris | heh |
| 18:56 | jcamins | Time to close up here. |
| 18:56 | Good night, #koha. | |
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| 18:57 | * chris | goes to catch his bus |
| 18:57 | chris | bbiab |
| 18:59 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit32: Fix for Bug 4950 - checkbox should be removed when can't place a hold <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e890fcc7d75730353> / Fix for Bug 5571 - tags as bulleted list too long <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4f862c75fcc440d00> |
| 19:01 | hudsonbot | Starting build 72 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #54 1 mo 0 days ago) |
| 19:01 | chris | Back |
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| 19:08 | nengard | welcome back |
| 19:14 | chris | Another quiet bus ride |
| 19:14 | Most ppl still on holiday it seems | |
| 19:18 | magnus | yeah, that was quick ;-) |
| 19:18 | chris | Still on the bus but no one else is |
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| 19:24 | magnus | ah |
| 19:24 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_3.2.x build #72: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/72/ |
| 19:24 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5571 - tags as bulleted list too long | |
| 19:24 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4950 - checkbox should be removed when can't place a hold | |
| 19:27 | * chris_n | pushes a fix to make hudson happy again |
| 19:27 | chris_n | !hudson build koha_3.2.x now |
| 19:27 | hudsonbot | chris_n: job koha_3.2.x build scheduled now |
| 19:27 | Starting build 73 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #54 1 mo 0 days ago) | |
| 19:28 | chris | :) |
| 19:28 | Ok my stop bbiab | |
| 19:29 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit32: Removing OPACNoResultsFound Enhancement Syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f8b5488dceddb19a5> / Fix for Bug 3347 - Inconsistencies with tables in opac-shelves.tmpl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f4cc5045786607473> |
| 19:35 | chris_n | !hudson botsnack fresh ground coffee |
| 19:35 | hudsonbot | chris_n: great! yum yum. how did you know that fresh ground coffee is my favorite food? |
| 19:35 | chris_n | errr |
| 19:35 | maybe drink? | |
| 19:35 | nengard | hehe |
| 19:36 | magnus | chris_n: you didn't specify that the coffe had been brewed, just ground... ;-) |
| 19:37 | druthb | eeeeeewwwwwww |
| 19:38 | nengard | is hudson that smart? |
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| 19:50 | magnus | !hudson botsnack freshly brewed coffee |
| 19:50 | hudsonbot | magnus: you're so kind to me! I could eat freshly brewed coffee all day long |
| 19:50 | magnus | nope ;-) |
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| 19:50 | drotsk | neat |
| 19:50 | o/ | |
| 19:51 | hudsonbot | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 19:51 | Project Koha_3.2.x build #73: FIXED in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/73/ | |
| 19:51 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3347 - Inconsistencies with tables in opac-shelves.tmpl | |
| 19:51 | * Chris Nighswonger: Removing OPACNoResultsFound Enhancement Syspref | |
| 19:51 | chris | back |
| 19:51 | druthb | !hudson botsnack well-sauteed mailing-list trolls |
| 19:51 | hudsonbot | druthb: thanks a lot! om nom nom. I could eat well-sauteed mailing-list trolls all day long |
| 19:51 | * druthb | giggles |
| 19:52 | * owen | prepares his stack of nominations for the next snack |
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| 20:00 | * magnus | wonders if "sudo" is needed for "make install" even when the install is a dev one into the users own home directory? just curious... |
| 20:02 | chris | if it does any chown at all |
| 20:02 | then yes | |
| 20:05 | magnus | and it probably does lots of stuff like that behind the scenes... |
| 20:09 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 20:09 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 20:09 | chris | hi Brooke |
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| 20:11 | owen is now known as owen-away | |
| 20:12 | magnus | \o/ Brooke |
| 20:12 | Brooke | :D |
| 20:12 | * Brooke | feels the love. |
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| 20:19 | * Brooke | waves to darling and davi |
| 20:19 | * drotsk | waves to Brooke |
| 20:20 | * darling | waves back |
| 20:20 | * wizzyrea | feels like she's at a large sports event and the peoples are doing the wave |
| 20:20 | darling | ooo |
| 20:21 | drotsk | hi darling |
| 20:21 | * druthb | waves to wizzyrea, so she doesn't feel left out. |
| 20:21 | davi | I do not know how to swim |
| 20:21 | * darling | sees a line of little desk cameras so we can try that |
| 20:21 | larsw | h, darling, long time no see |
| 20:21 | darling | larsw ! |
| 20:21 | davi | I do not like the water |
| 20:22 | Brooke | we'd have to time it with latency. |
| 20:22 | davi | I hope I do not break a waves party :) |
| 20:23 | darling | larsw, did you see I cited you for loving thoughts? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]pment_Environment |
| 20:23 | er, target for | |
| 20:24 | larsw | darling, I didn't! I don't follow Koha much these days, just #koha occasionally :( |
| 20:24 | though just the other day I was wondering how the Debian packages of Koha are doing :) | |
| 20:25 | darling | doing very nicely, robin's been keeping them live |
| 20:25 | larsw | excellent |
| 20:25 | give robin a cake :) | |
| 20:25 | darling | and I've even been making packages myself on other projects (new wrms build) |
| 20:26 | larsw | debian packages ftw ! |
| 20:26 | darling | yep |
| 20:27 | larsw | is there any movement towards getting the Koha .debs into Debian itself? |
| 20:27 | once Debian gets the current development version released | |
| 20:27 | darling | no idea |
| 20:28 | chris | yep, we are slowly working on tidying up copyright statements |
| 20:28 | * Brooke | sneezes *Ubuntu* |
| 20:28 | larsw | Ubuntu is one of the lovely children of Debian :) |
| 20:28 | darling | I'm a little less up on things, have moved to L2 |
| 20:28 | Brooke | aye it is |
| 20:28 | darling | Ubuntu is tacky |
| 20:28 | I like it less each day | |
| 20:29 | larsw | mostly, anything people want to get into ubuntu is best uploaded into Debian first, so everyone benefits |
| 20:29 | darling | it makes me feel old |
| 20:29 | larsw | darling, L2, eh |
| 20:29 | darling | larsw, yep -- I'm no long the Fairfax guy |
| 20:30 | which is pretty exciting and relazxing | |
| 20:30 | (I still can't type tho) | |
| 20:30 | larsw | darling, then I congratulate you :) |
| 20:30 | darling | thanks |
| 20:30 | larsw | got to go now, be happy everyone :) |
| 20:31 | Brooke | cheers |
| 20:31 | darling | bye! great to see you |
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| 20:41 | Brooke | wb owen |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | sekjal++ |
| 20:45 | * sekjal | looks around, confused |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | for 5586 |
| 20:46 | * chris_n | hands sekjal a cup of java |
| 20:47 | sekjal | thanks, chris_n. we've been out of coffee here for a couple days |
| 20:47 | just drank my last energy drink, hoping it will kick in soon | |
| 20:48 | chris_n | time to play catchup with chris ;-) |
| 20:48 | magnus | bug 5586 |
| 20:48 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5583 Rename fieldnumber to blocknumber <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9dd0024ef94980d5b> / Bug 5582 Pass tag nums as a string to Doc Popup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]38ec20e4df7956a19> / bug 5585: fix display of current date on receipts and slips <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=commitd |
| 20:48 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5586 normal, P5, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, SIP line-endings should use proper SPEC-compliant \r | |
| 20:48 | sekjal | and 5586 is all Joe Atzberger's work. I just signed off and published it per his request |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | either way |
| 20:49 | sekjal | (and tested, of course) |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | it's very helpful |
| 20:49 | Brooke | that sounds like a jorb for the food exchange, sekjal |
| 20:49 | what sort of machine do you use? | |
| 20:50 | sekjal | Brooke: coffee machine? French Press |
| 20:50 | Brooke | do you have a grinder or do you use the preground shtuff? |
| 20:50 | chris_n | in that case Bodum is your friend |
| 20:50 | http://www.bodumusa.com/shop/home.asp?CHK=1288 | |
| 20:54 | sekjal | Brooke: grinder |
| 20:54 | basic KRUPS model | |
| 20:54 | Brooke | good man |
| 20:54 | chris_n | fresh grind is the *only* way to go :) |
| 20:54 | sekjal | our CSA hasn't done deliveries for the last two weeks; normally, locally roasted coffee shows up at our door |
| 20:55 | Brooke | lemme know if yer fix doesn't show soon and I'll send ye a care package. |
| 20:55 | * chris_n | suddenly feels a craving for a cup of coffee |
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| 20:58 | sekjal | thanks, Brooke! |
| 20:58 | Brooke | pfft thank me if I actually do anything. |
| 20:58 | sekjal | back on Koha business, anyone recall if the 610 field is indexed in the subject index? |
| 21:00 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5583 Rename fieldnumber to blocknumber <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]039dd19d15ae1f4fe> / Bug 5582 Pass tag nums as a string to Doc Popup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]811164b6c35fe585b> / bug 5585: fix display of current date on receipts and slips <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=koha.git;a=commi |
| 21:01 | hudsonbot | Starting build 74 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: FIXED) |
| 21:01 | Starting build 265 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 21:05 | magnus | sekjal: melm 610 Name,Subject,Corporate-name http://git.koha-community.org/[…].abs;hb=HEAD#l162 |
| 21:07 | owen | We need a mailing list autoresponder for the phrase "koha on windows" |
| 21:08 | drotsk | ha |
| 21:08 | chris | heh |
| 21:08 | Brooke | don't let me write it ;) |
| 21:09 | chris | "yeah ... nah" |
| 21:13 | Brooke | holy cannoli, 848 to NZ over at Air NZ. |
| 21:14 | chris | from? |
| 21:14 | Brooke | LAX or San Fran |
| 21:14 | it's *always* LAX or San Fran to Aucklame | |
| 21:14 | nengard | that's a nice deal |
| 21:14 | Brooke | indeed. |
| 21:15 | chris | well you can get cheap ones on virgin aus |
| 21:15 | lax to wlg | |
| 21:15 | every so often | |
| 21:15 | * Brooke | would prefer never to pass through Oz again if poss. |
| 21:16 | nengard | chris i know! I got one of those :) |
| 21:16 | but it wsn't that cheap | |
| 21:16 | chris | laurel got a 999$ nz one |
| 21:16 | which is probably a bit less than that | |
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| 21:18 | * magnus | bids #koha a good night |
| 21:18 | magnus left #koha | |
| 21:32 | Brooke | don't all talk at once :P |
| 21:32 | druthb | :) |
| 21:36 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_3.2.x build #74: UNSTABLE in 35 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/74/ |
| 21:37 | * Galen Charlton: bug 5585: fix display of current date on receipts and slips | |
| 21:37 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 5582 Pass tag nums as a string to Doc Popup | |
| 21:37 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 5583 Rename fieldnumber to blocknumber | |
| 21:37 | Project Koha_Master build #265: UNSTABLE in 35 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/265/ | |
| 21:37 | * Galen Charlton: bug 5585: fix display of current date on receipts and slips | |
| 21:37 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 5582 Pass tag nums as a string to Doc Popup | |
| 21:37 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 5583 Rename fieldnumber to blocknumber | |
| 21:37 | owen | hudsonbot to the rescue, Brooke |
| 21:37 | Brooke | :) |
| 21:38 | owen | time to go, and I didn't even get to my Action! Item! yet. |
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| 21:40 | chris | yep something in there broke one of the tests too |
| 21:40 | Brooke | eh oh |
| 21:41 | chris | REGRESSION ALERT |
| 21:41 | http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]able__branch__OK/ | |
| 21:41 | in big red letters | |
| 21:41 | * chris | goes to investigate |
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| 21:42 | Brooke | Boozho! |
| 21:47 | chris | hmm works locally |
| 21:47 | * chris | logs in to where hudson is running to test |
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| 21:51 | hudsonbot | Starting build 266 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #264 21 hr ago) |
| 21:52 | chris | worked at the commandline there too |
| 21:58 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5006 - Invalid XHTML in record matching rules template <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8fea1eb544cee78f4> |
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| 22:10 | Brooke | eeep |
| 22:10 | look at the time | |
| 22:10 | cheers | |
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| 22:12 | sekjal | goodnight, #koha! |
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| 22:14 | hudsonbot | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 22:14 | Project Koha_Master build #266: FIXED in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/266/ | |
| 22:15 | Starting build 267 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) | |
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| 22:39 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #267: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/267/ |
| 22:39 | Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5006 - Invalid XHTML in record matching rules template | |
| 22:57 | brendan_2 | @wunder 93109 |
| 22:57 | @wunder 93109 | |
| 22:57 | munin | brendan_2: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 15.9�C (2:57 PM PST on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:58 | brendan_2 | @wunder 06516 |
| 22:58 | munin | brendan_2: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is -1.9�C (5:39 PM EST on January 06, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.66 in 1004.3 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Watch in effect from late tonight through late Friday night... |
| 22:58 | Michael joined #koha | |
| 22:58 | Michael | Hey Gang. Michael here (NCAR Library in Boulder) |
| 22:59 | chris | hi Michael |
| 22:59 | Michael | I gots questions. |
| 22:59 | hi Chris | |
| 22:59 | I'm trying to make sense of Koha's Acquisitions features. (Funds, baskets, orders, etc) | |
| 23:00 | chris | what version of Koha are you looking at 3.2.2 ? |
| 23:00 | Michael | I'm hoping someone can direct me to some instructional resources. (the Koha manual doesn't go into much detail) |
| 23:00 | let's see...3.2.2 i think. | |
| 23:00 | chris | (the about page will tell you) |
| 23:01 | Michael | ah, here we go. 3.01.00.145 |
| 23:02 | chris | ahh thats an oldish one |
| 23:02 | Michael | meaning that acquisitions has changed somewhat since? |
| 23:03 | chris | bound to have had bug fixes and stuff .. are you running a prerelease of 3.2.0? |
| 23:03 | (its pre 3.2.0 .. so 3 versions ago) | |
| 23:03 | and which manual are you looking at? | |
| 23:04 | * chris | is just trying to figure out the best place to point you at, but first need to know what you have already looked at ;) |
| 23:04 | Michael | Well, I guess i've been kind of "version ignorant"... |
| 23:04 | i've likely been perusing this manual: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2 | |
| 23:05 | chris | yeah dont |
| 23:05 | Michael | or this http://koha-community.org/docu[…]ation/3-2-manual/ |
| 23:05 | chris | koha.org is old, out of date, and under the control of a hostile company |
| 23:05 | Michael | (same?) |
| 23:05 | chris | no, koha-community.org is actually updated and right |
| 23:05 | Michael | oh, okay. that's where my bookmark goes, actually. |
| 23:06 | we're set up with a Training email list, so I really should post some questions on there. Just thought I'd pop on here first for some reason. | |
| 23:07 | chris | yep here is a good resource, if you have read the manual then probably the next place to look is the wiki |
| 23:07 | Michael | okay |
| 23:08 | I'll browse the wiki, and post some questions on our Training list. | |
| 23:08 | chris | cool, who's your support provider if you dont mind me asking? |
| 23:08 | Michael | Thanks for getting me straight as to versions...I suppose we ought to look into upgrading soon from 3.01.00 |
| 23:08 | chris | bywater solutions have done some good video tutorials |
| 23:09 | yeah 3.1.x was unstable releases | |
| 23:09 | Michael | esilibrary |
| 23:09 | chris | the second number should be even |
| 23:09 | ahh, they are good people too | |
| 23:09 | they'll be able to help you out | |
| 23:09 | Michael | cool, thx chris |
| 23:09 | signing off | |
| 23:10 | chris | heres one |
| 23:10 | http://bywatersolutions.com/?p=677 | |
| 23:10 | Michael | k |
| 23:10 | chris | i find the videos quite useful tools |
| 23:10 | thast the only acquisitions one i could find though | |
| 23:10 | Michael | great, thanks |
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| 23:50 | chris | heya atz |
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