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02:07 | jcamins_a | robin: around? |
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02:07 | robin | jcamins: yarp |
02:07 | jcamins | Just saw bug 5551. |
02:07 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5551 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, The shelf browser should be able to ignore things like location |
02:07 | robin | that was quick :) |
02:08 | jcamins | How are you thinking of implementing that? |
02:08 | * jcamins | subscribes to koha-bugs |
02:08 | robin | as a syspref that allows it to be toggled between current behaviour and location/ccode-ignorant. |
02:08 | * jcamins | resents terribly when there are messages in his inbox, now that he has attained inbox zero. |
02:08 | robin | heh |
02:08 | I'm down to inbox 1,549 or so. | |
02:09 | ah, right | |
02:09 | oh, homebranch and location, not location and ccode | |
02:09 | jcamins | Anyway, some libraries are also concerned about bug 4367, which is kind of the opposite of bug 5551. |
02:09 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4367 normal, P5, ---, camins, ASSIGNED, shelfbrowser should take collection code into consideration |
02:10 | jcamins | Right. |
02:10 | robin | ah, interesting |
02:10 | hmm | |
02:10 | jcamins | That's what I was leading up to. There needs to be an option to have the shelf browser pay attention to ccode. |
02:10 | robin | I wonder if I can think of a solution that solves them all at once. |
02:11 | jcamins | That was my hope. :) |
02:13 | I am also trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. | |
02:13 | ibot | okay, jcamins. |
02:13 | robin | i? |
02:13 | ibot: I? | |
02:13 | ibot | i haven't a clue, robin |
02:13 | robin | weird old bot |
02:13 | jcamins: well, that's not a terrible solution. | |
02:14 | ibot: jcamins? | |
02:14 | ibot | jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. |
02:14 | robin | ah |
02:17 | jcamins | :) |
02:23 | I guess if the upgrade script (blanking on the name right now) defaults to ShelfBrowserUsersLocation=yes, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode=no, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch=yes the behavior would be the same. | |
02:34 | robin | jcamins: yep |
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03:25 | chris | Someone got a sec and a real computer not a phone and a baby? |
03:25 | Can you login to the wiki and kill the payday spam | |
03:26 | robin | OK |
03:26 | chris | If someone clicks thru on it they'll do it more |
03:26 | Thanks robin | |
03:26 | robin | how do I delete a page? |
03:27 | chris | Hmm good question |
03:27 | Not sure for mediawiki | |
03:27 | Maybe just delete the content, might have to get a few more admin logins from gmcharlt | |
03:28 | robin | OK, zapped the content, anyway |
03:28 | chris | Ta |
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03:39 | Oak | \o |
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05:09 | chris | Hi hdl |
05:10 | hdl | hi chris |
05:10 | Amit | hi chris |
05:10 | hi hdl | |
05:11 | hdl | hi Amit |
05:12 | robin | http://santacametotown.wordpre[…]nta-came-to-town/ <-- chris: there will a significant amount of this in your desk when you return, just so you know where the surprise chocolate came from :) |
05:13 | (by significant, I mean "more than you can comfortably eat in one sitting", not like a whole head or something) | |
05:15 | * robin | wasn't given the whole head of santa :( |
05:22 | chris | ohhhh awesome! |
05:22 | and hi amit | |
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05:39 | chris | !hudson build koha_master now |
05:39 | hudsonbot | chris: job koha_master build scheduled now |
05:39 | Starting build 250 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) | |
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05:46 | chris | !hudson build koha_master now |
05:46 | hudsonbot | chris: job koha_master build scheduled now |
05:46 | chris | stupid memory hungry java |
05:46 | hudsonbot | Starting build 251 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) |
05:46 | chris | hudson keeps ooming itself |
05:47 | robin | chris: give the JVM process more memory |
05:47 | chris | can't, its got all the box has |
05:47 | id have to shell out for the next level up of linode | |
05:48 | robin | Is it thrashing badly, or is it OutOfMemoryError'ing? |
05:48 | chris | it only started happening with a recent upgrade, so im hoping it will get fixed |
05:48 | robin | (i.e. is the process in the JVM running out, or is the system running out?) |
05:48 | chris | the former |
05:48 | * robin | has a bit too much experience tuning java for it to be healthy |
05:49 | chris | but i think the last time it took down apache too |
05:49 | robin | ah. |
05:49 | chris | ah yep, bugs. is down |
05:49 | robin | yeah, the OOM killer is intentionally iffy. |
05:49 | * chris | brings it back up |
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05:49 | robin | in that, it's not really an algorithm that can be got right |
05:50 | I'd recommend installing restartd for the critical things | |
05:50 | e.g. apache | |
05:50 | chris | ah good idea |
05:51 | yeah, bring up apache, pop goes hudson | |
05:51 | robin | hmm. |
05:52 | in that case, lower the memory given to the JVM | |
05:52 | chris | Dec 29 05:53:31 li105-217 hudson: hudson: fatal: client (pid 29891) killed by signal 9, exiting |
05:52 | robin | it's less likely to take out other things, but more likely to take itself out with OOMError |
05:52 | chris | right |
05:52 | robin | but, it'll also run the GC more which may help. |
05:53 | basically, java -Xmx512M or something like that (relative to what it is currently. I forget what the default is) | |
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05:56 | chris | ta |
05:57 | hudsonbot | Starting build 252 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) |
05:57 | Starting build 66 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #54 22 days ago) | |
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06:15 | robin | OK, I can't force myself to do work any more. I think I have to leave. It's too nice, and too much straight-after-holiday to sit here any longer :) |
06:16 | chris | :) |
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06:22 | hudsonbot | Starting build 67 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #54 22 days ago) |
06:23 | Project Koha_3.2.x build #67: FAILURE in 1 min 44 sec: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/67/ | |
06:23 | * Nicole Engard: bug 4826 change 'add basket' to 'new basket' | |
06:23 | * Galen Charlton: bug 5398: make additional pages in staff interface obey noItemTypeImages | |
06:23 | * Srdjan Jankovic: Bug 5294 - Unescape vendor name when pushing back | |
06:23 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3859, Attach item clarification | |
06:23 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4946 - hold warning needs rewording | |
06:23 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4997, More searches menu not on OPAC MARC and ISBD detail pages | |
06:23 | * Serhij Dubyk {?????? ?????}: Deleted old sample budget sql-data for Ukrainian and Russian | |
06:23 | * Srdjan Jankovic: Bug 5510: prepend output with system name | |
06:23 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3987 - New Sys Prefs Branch - Alphabetize prefs in sections | |
06:23 | * Robin Sheat: bug4891 - sort facets in search sidebar (OPAC and staff client) | |
06:23 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5470 - improvements to results display in the staff client | |
06:23 | * Owen Leonard: Follow-up patch for Bug 4908, show patron's home library in OPAC | |
06:23 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5518 - Add to shelf icon doesn't appear in OPAC results page | |
06:23 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 4286 Allow receiving if subscription enddate not set | |
06:23 | * Fr?d?ric Demians: Bug 5446 Fix a bug introduces by previous patch | |
06:23 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3262 - OPAC needs syspref to show homebranch on detail page | |
06:23 | * Amit Gupta: Bug 5489: Send hold email to branch email address if it exists instead of koha email address | |
06:27 | chris | well thats something, not quite what i wanted, but something |
06:28 | hudsonbot | Starting build 254 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) |
06:29 | Project Koha_Master build #254: FAILURE in 1 min 30 sec: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/254/ | |
06:29 | Owen Leonard: Fix for bug 5451, can add tags with userlogin turned off | |
06:54 | chris | !hudson build koha_master now |
06:54 | hudsonbot | chris: job koha_master build scheduled now |
06:55 | Starting build 255 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #244 7 days 4 hr ago) | |
07:10 | Starting build 68 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #54 22 days ago) | |
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07:13 | ivanc | hi #koha |
07:17 | chris | hi ivanc |
07:17 | ivanc | hi chris |
07:18 | hudsonbot | Yippie, build fixed! |
07:18 | Project Koha_Master build #255: FIXED in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/255/ | |
07:20 | chris | phew |
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07:27 | chris | hi magnus |
07:28 | magnus | kia ora chris & #koha |
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07:29 | chris | hi glernil |
07:29 | glernil | hello chris |
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07:30 | glernil | i just want to ask how can i upgrade my koha installation 3.2 to 3.2.2? |
07:30 | chris | its 3.2.0 right? |
07:31 | glernil | yes |
07:32 | chris | and how did you install it, from source or from the debian packages? |
07:32 | glernil | i already have the tarball of 3.2.2 |
07:33 | i installed it in ubuntu 10.10 server | |
07:34 | from source | |
07:35 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_3.2.x build #68: UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/68/ |
07:35 | chris | right, so in the INSTALL.ubuntu file |
07:36 | jump down to about line 368 | |
07:36 | glernil | ok thanks |
07:43 | hudsonbot | Starting build 256 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) |
07:45 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5526: Follow up patch removing a warn statement <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]85a6ec002074d13e7> / Fix for Bug 5526, List of lists should be in alphabetical order by list name <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]20a0ef17a7592c8c9> / Bug 5542: Availability code commented out - Uncommenting <http://git.koha-communi |
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08:00 | * magnus | wonders if having the documentation for koha in ebook formats like epub and mobi would be useful... |
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08:02 | chris | because its all in docbook, you can convert it to anything you want, those included |
08:02 | youd want to script it, so it rebuilds every so often | |
08:03 | magnus | yeah, i was thinking about something like that |
08:03 | but it isn't really what i was supposed to think about today... ;-) | |
08:04 | chris | :) |
08:04 | you could even use hudson to do it | |
08:04 | it could follow the kohadocs repository and rebuild the pdf/epub/odt/whatever whenever it notices changes | |
08:05 | magnus | hm, that sounds cool |
08:05 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #256: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/256/ |
08:05 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5540, editing slip news changes to librarian interface | |
08:06 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5542: Availability code commented out - Uncommenting | |
08:06 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5526, List of lists should be in alphabetical order by list name | |
08:06 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5526: Follow up patch removing a warn statement | |
08:06 | chris | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]/12/29/red-wagon/ |
08:07 | magnus | hehe |
08:12 | cute kids! | |
08:12 | chris | most of the time :) |
08:13 | magnus | all of the time would be creepy/scary, i think? ;-) |
08:13 | fredericd | hi all and merry christmas |
08:14 | magnus | merry christmas, fredericd |
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08:14 | chris | hi fredericd |
08:17 | fredericd | magnus: I'd like also to have Koha manual on my ebook reader... |
08:17 | I may do it... | |
08:19 | magnus | it doesn't look like it should be too difficult, using dbtoepub and kindlegen (from amazon) |
08:20 | and kindlegen is of course only needed to get it on the kindle... | |
08:20 | fredericd | There is just an issue with images. There are a lot of screenshots. I'm not very confident it will render properly on an Kindle |
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08:21 | francharb | hello |
08:21 | magnus | fredericd: yeah, only one way to find that out... ;-) |
08:21 | hi francharb | |
08:21 | fredericd | hello francharb |
08:22 | paul_p | hello world ! |
08:22 | francharb | :) |
08:22 | paul_p | "bon bout d'an" fredericd comme on dit à Marseille |
08:23 | (we say that just between christmas & new year. Short duration => we say it all the day :D ) | |
08:23 | fredericd | itou Paul, comme on dit j'sais pas o� |
08:24 | magnus | bon bout d'an paul_p |
08:33 | francharb | :) |
08:48 | magnus | should patches to the manual have a corresponding bug, just like patches to the code? |
08:49 | chris | theres a different mailing list for patches to the docs |
08:50 | magnus | yup, i found that |
08:50 | chris | https://lists.koha-community.o[…]istinfo/koha-docs |
08:50 | id say no for the bugs, but that would be up to nicole | |
08:51 | magnus | ok, i'll submit a patch without a bug and then (maybe) suffer her wrath... |
08:54 | chris | if we were to do bugs, itd be nice to set up another product koha-docs or something to keep them separate |
08:54 | magnus | sounds like a good idea |
08:55 | "documentation" is listed as a component in bugzilla | |
08:56 | chris | yep, i think there are different types of documentation, the help files as part of koha as one |
08:56 | but the manual is something quite different | |
08:56 | not really a component, but its own thing | |
08:57 | magnus | ah, yes that makes sense |
08:59 | btw: the https pages on https://lists.koha-community.org/ give me an ugly warning about the certificate or somesuch | |
08:59 | chris | ah yeah i got that too, if paul_p is watching he might get someone to fix it :-) |
09:00 | paul_p | yes, i'm watching. |
09:01 | it's just because it's a self-signed certificate. | |
09:01 | will ask sysop@ for how to buy a certificate | |
09:02 | * chris | heads to sleep, night all |
09:02 | paul_p | sweet dreams chris |
09:02 | magnus | g'night chris |
09:02 | paul_p | was the golf nice ? |
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09:54 | magnus | fredericd: first attempt http://div.libriotech.no/kohaebook/ |
10:07 | i have tested the .mobi on a kindle and it looks ok - biggest problem is bulleted points, where the bullet is displayed above the related text | |
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13:21 | owen | Hi #koha |
13:21 | druthb | hi, owen and Nate! :) |
13:22 | Nate | Morning druthb, owen, adn everyone else! |
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13:29 | druthb | a drive-by Nate-ing. |
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13:35 | paul_p | druthb, lol :D |
13:35 | 'morning morning ppl ! | |
13:35 | jwagner | Bonjour paul_p |
13:36 | druthb | hi, paul_p! welcome back, Nate. |
13:37 | Nate | :) |
13:45 | cait | hi all :) |
13:48 | paul_p | hello germany/cait |
13:48 | cait | hi france ;) |
13:59 | owen | What does it mean when I try to git cherry-pick something and I get this error: |
13:59 | fatal: Commit XXXX is a merge but no -m option was given. | |
14:02 | gmcharlt | owen: pretty much what it says - it means that you've selected a merge commit (which is merging in one or more "real" commits), and it wants to know what side of the merge to bring in |
14:02 | if you're just cherry-picking a particular commit or set of commits, you may just need to scroll down a bit more in git log to identify the "real" commit to cherry-pick | |
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14:09 | * owen | was trying to have a look at this: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e296a97974a3e040c |
14:18 | cait | time for ikea :) |
14:18 | bye all | |
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14:25 | gmcharlt | owen: in the gitweb page, note the (merge: 9c54d01 5ce9eb6) bit |
14:25 | that indicates the two trees to travel down look for specific commits to cherry-pick | |
14:41 | owen | Thanks gmcharlt |
14:44 | * paul_p | just ended upgrading Aix-Marseille server to Squeeze ! everything seems OK ... /me continues to fix some AixMarseille glitches... |
14:44 | paul_p | 'morning owen & gmcharlt |
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14:52 | ebegin | hello #koha! |
14:55 | jwagner | Hi ebegin |
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15:59 | magnus | hiya nengard - how's the roof? |
15:59 | nengard | not bad, dad seems to think it's not a leak per se, but something about the ice melting and not having a place to go - so maybe only internal damage - got to get a contractor in to look |
16:06 | magnus | could be worse then, fingers crossed |
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16:07 | nengard | magnus, I got your docs email in moderation and I thought I approved it to go through - but I don't see it anywhere - can you send it again? |
16:10 | magnus | nengard: done |
16:10 | nengard | great - will look for it |
16:11 | magnus | cool |
16:13 | nengard | think i figured it out - i'm admin but not subscribed :) |
16:18 | magnus | nengard: i got an email saying The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 41275 bytes with a limit of 40 KB |
16:18 | nengard: first time i sent i got The reason it is being held: Post to moderated list | |
16:21 | btw, i found that little hickup trying to do this: http://div.libriotech.no/kohaebook/ | |
16:21 | nengard | awesome!!!!! |
16:21 | not the hiccup, but the ebooks :) | |
16:22 | owen | nengard: I have a question about Bug 5537 |
16:22 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5537 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, 530 not linking in OPAC |
16:22 | nengard | looks like all patch emails might get blocked cause of size ... but i'll always approve them |
16:22 | yes owen? | |
16:22 | ibot | owen is, like, a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, covered in awesome brilliance |
16:22 | owen | nengard: where do you see the 530 link in the staff client display? |
16:22 | nengard | hang on -on a call |
16:23 | magnus | nengard: i think the patch i sent was extra large because an image was included |
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16:25 | magnus | nengard: the mobi is readable but bullet-points don't look too good, the bullet is above the associated text. details of what i did is in the README - it might be possible to tweak the process for prettier results |
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16:27 | * Brooke | moseys on into #koha. |
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16:28 | nengard | owen bug updated |
16:29 | owen | Thanks |
16:32 | * magnus | waves at Brooke |
16:32 | * Brooke | smiles at magnus. |
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16:33 | nengard | magnus I'm finding that while docbook is handy, it can be a bit screwy at times ... wizzyrea can attest to this as well |
16:36 | magnus | nengard: ;-) not sure what makes the bullets strange, though - could be the conversion to epub |
16:37 | nengard | maybe ... brb ... got a screencast to record |
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16:42 | owen | Anyone know of a Koha library using LibraryThing in their OPAC? |
16:43 | magnus | owen: search for koha here: http://www.librarything.com/wi[…]ing_for_Libraries |
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16:44 | owen | Thanks magnus, I think I have been told that before :) |
16:45 | magnus | norwegian saying: a good thing can not be said too many times ;-) |
16:46 | Brooke | ooooh |
16:46 | I should move to Norway if they're so keen on redundancy... | |
16:47 | magnus | Brooke: you're welcome! |
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16:50 | * Brooke | chuckles. |
16:57 | chris | owen: hlt do |
16:58 | magnus | ata marie, chris |
16:58 | Brooke | :D |
16:58 | * Brooke | highfives magnus. |
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17:06 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org. Koha 3.2.2 is now available. Next general meeting on 5 January 2011 | |
17:10 | chris | yeah ive found them good to deal with |
17:16 | tcohen | hi chris, is it ok to check a marc field dump (from biblioitems) against marclint? |
17:16 | or it needs to be prepared first? | |
17:16 | chris | hmm it should be ok to check it against |
17:17 | tcohen | marclint complains about sunfield 9 for 650 and 651 |
17:17 | y suppose that's not a problem | |
17:17 | chris | you'd have to ask a cataloguer |
17:18 | they'd probably tell you that you have caused armageddon :) | |
17:19 | Brooke | dern Nicole's not on. |
17:20 | what sort of complaint is it? | |
17:20 | cause subject fields are kinda important. | |
17:20 | jcamins_a | Brooke: subfield 9 isn't valid. |
17:20 | francharb | bye all |
17:20 | jcamins_a | It's Koha-specific. |
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17:21 | magnus | marc21 does not have subfield 9 in 650 and 651, it seems http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd650.html |
17:21 | jcamins_a | tcohen: ^^ |
17:21 | magnus | in koha the fields are called "9 (RLIN)" |
17:21 | jcamins_a | tcohen: sorry, I got confused between who was saying what. Anyway, don't worry about it. |
17:22 | * Brooke | steals Mr. Camins' a. |
17:22 | magnus | and in my demo running current HEAD the field is greyed out and has a little padlock in it... |
17:22 | tcohen | yes, subfield 9 is koha specific, and it's the responsible of linking o auth |
17:22 | at least that's what I thought | |
17:23 | jcamins_a | Exactly. |
17:23 | * jcamins_a | will be eating lunch soon, so really he's still not here. |
17:23 | chris | yep, so yeah marclint wont like it, but thats not to be worried about :) |
17:23 | tcohen | that means marc stored in biblioitems is not *really* valid marc |
17:23 | and leader info on the lenght of the record? | |
17:23 | * Brooke | sees nuffin wrong with Koha MARC falling off the back of a van if it happens to work. |
17:24 | Brooke | >.> |
17:24 | <.< | |
17:24 | jcamins_a | tcohen: yes, you would have to change the length if you removed subfield 9s. |
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17:24 | jcamins_a | I disagree that it's not valid MARC, though. Most ILSes use non-standard tags for something. |
17:24 | tcohen | does addbiblio.pl trigger the proper leader update? |
17:25 | jcamins_a | tcohen: That I don't know. |
17:25 | I would hope so. | |
17:25 | * Brooke | points at nengard |
17:25 | jcamins_a | If not, that would definitely make it invalid MARC. |
17:25 | Brooke | Cavalry's here. |
17:25 | tcohen | we all hope that :-D |
17:25 | i'm just trying to figure out what went wrong with this database | |
17:25 | * nengard | hides |
17:25 | tcohen | and learn a bit about debugging this kind of problems |
17:25 | perhaps we can then add a wiki page fr this | |
17:26 | Brooke | would be good. |
17:28 | chris | tcohen: what is the error that you are getting? |
17:28 | tcohen | i've just cleared the konsole buffer but.. |
17:28 | chris | (in koha that is, not marclint) |
17:28 | tcohen | something like invalid record |
17:28 | during rebuild_zebra | |
17:28 | and the line number in exported_records | |
17:29 | chris | right, its possible that the length of the marc is too long |
17:29 | tcohen | [warn] MARC: Bad offsets in data. Skipping rest |
17:29 | [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) | |
17:29 | chris | yes |
17:29 | tcohen | [log] error grs.marcxml.record /tmp/ZGulZTbzZ7/biblio/exported_records 70118483 |
17:29 | chris | i get that when a record is too long |
17:30 | does it have a ton of items ? | |
17:30 | one thing to try too is | |
17:30 | tcohen | it is long |
17:30 | as it has several notes | |
17:30 | chris | rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x |
17:30 | ie tell it to use the xml | |
17:30 | if that works | |
17:30 | tcohen | ack |
17:31 | it will impact performance in some way, right? | |
17:31 | chris | im 99.9% sure its because we have a record that is too long |
17:31 | tcohen | (that's not a problem for me) |
17:31 | nengard is now known as neng_food | |
17:31 | chris | tcohen: its actually faster |
17:31 | tcohen | no f* way, really? |
17:31 | chris | thats what ive noticed |
17:31 | you just cant do -x with -a | |
17:32 | tcohen | ok, i'll calm my worried loved librarians here |
17:32 | and then make some tests on this | |
17:32 | chris | cool |
17:32 | also | |
17:32 | tcohen | thanks! |
17:32 | chris | paul has a script he is going to send |
17:32 | that allows rebuild_zebra to deal with this better | |
17:32 | so that one bad record doesnt stop the indexing | |
17:32 | tcohen | that sounds good |
17:32 | i was going to ask | |
17:33 | if we could dump records on individual files | |
17:33 | chris | yeah |
17:33 | magnus | yeah, that script from paul_p sounds like it will be really cool |
17:34 | chris | sure does |
17:35 | tcohen | chris, i apreciate your help a lot |
17:35 | thanks, really | |
17:36 | chris | no problem |
17:36 | i appreciate your emails helping people on the mailing list | |
17:37 | also, we must help you with Koha, otherwise how else can we have a kohacon in argentina some time in the future :) | |
17:39 | magnus | kohacon_in_argentina++ |
17:40 | tcohen | :-D that sounds awesome |
17:40 | chris | if we time it right, we could do it when nz is playing argentina in rugby :) |
17:41 | and then kohacon in india when nz is playing india in cricket :) | |
17:42 | tcohen | hahaha |
17:43 | Brooke | oooooh |
17:43 | * Brooke | is all for an Argentine KohaCon |
17:43 | Brooke | kohacon_in_argentina++ |
17:44 | chris | asado++ |
17:44 | tcohen | i think as a local team we can have a small (but bigger) chance |
17:47 | bye all, got to levae! | |
17:48 | chris | see you later |
17:49 | Brooke | bye |
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17:54 | chris | i wonder if petuomin knows larsw |
17:54 | * chris | just assumes everyone in finland knows everyone else :) |
17:54 | larsw | chris, just like everyone in NZ knows everyone else? :) |
17:55 | his name does not ring a bell for me, but my memory space for names is limited to about three | |
17:55 | chris | well, its actually pretty close to being true :-) |
17:55 | heh | |
17:55 | druthb | ...something like 4 million folks in NZ, right? About the size of the Washington DC metro area, IIRC. |
17:56 | chris | merry christmas larsw and a happy new year :) |
17:56 | larsw | chris, thank you, and merry christmas and a happy new year to you, too, you lucky summer-dweller :) |
17:57 | chris | had a couple of stormy days early in the week, but a nice high has settled in now |
17:58 | @wunder wellington nz | |
17:58 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (6:00 AM NZDT on December 30, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
18:01 | Brooke | 4,252,277 |
18:01 | according to the CIA World Factbook. | |
18:02 | 4.38 million according to Tatauranga Aotearoa | |
18:03 | owen is now known as owen-away | |
18:03 | Michael joined #koha | |
18:03 | * Brooke | waves to Michael |
18:04 | magnus | 4,676,305 in norway - let me assure you we don't all know each other... ;-) |
18:04 | Michael | :) |
18:05 | Warning: I'm about to toss a random question out there. | |
18:05 | Brooke | awesome |
18:05 | fire away | |
18:05 | chris | magnus: did i ever ask you if you know my ex girlfriend she lives in norway now :-) |
18:06 | Michael | Inventory...in what format should my barcode file be? text (tab delimited)? |
18:06 | chris | magnus: in Verdalsøra |
18:07 | Michael | The reason I ask is that I put 10 or 20 barcodes into an excel file, saved it as txt (tab delimited) and plugged it into the Inventory engine. |
18:07 | chris | one barcode per line Michael |
18:07 | Michael | (yes, I had one barcode per line) The results were odd... |
18:08 | It spit my list back at me (good), with barcodes AND call numbers, but then in the Problems column, all but the first one said "can't find in Koha" | |
18:09 | magnus | chris: i have hardly heard of Verdals�ra, but if you give me the name... ;-) |
18:09 | Michael | If it "can't find" then how'd it get those call nos? |
18:09 | neng_food is now known as nengard | |
18:10 | chris | good question |
18:10 | Michael | Anyway, I chose to go another route with my inventory-ing...create a list of items within a range of call nos and then "see" them one by one, by putting checkmarks on the list. |
18:11 | chris | what you could do is use bulk item edit |
18:12 | /cgi-bin/koha/tools/batchMod.pl | |
18:12 | Michael | you mean plug the same barcode list into bulk item edit and "see" them all that way? |
18:12 | chris | i know for a fact that takes a file with one barcode per line |
18:12 | and yep | |
18:12 | Michael | hm, okay. |
18:12 | maybe i'll give that a try | |
18:13 | i do like the checklist method, though, as it circumvents barcode scanning altogether. | |
18:13 | of course, it means i need to push a laptop through the stacks with me | |
18:13 | but w/e | |
18:14 | thx 4 the tip | |
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18:17 | chris | now thats where our android client wins |
18:18 | just take your phone in the stacks | |
18:18 | * magnus | shakes his head at norwegian proprietary ils Mikromarc which seems to have put exactly the same info into 000 and 008... |
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18:28 | magnus is now known as magnus_a | |
18:28 | chris | me: what do you want for breakfast |
18:28 | kahu: merican porridge | |
18:29 | luckily we had some quaker oatmeal stashed away, and 2 mins in the microwave and he is happy | |
18:30 | Brooke | well, as the current RM, clearly you're aware of who is in charge of Yank Food Relief. |
18:32 | chris | well he can only have one or 2 of those a year, or all his teeth will fall out :-) |
18:32 | * Brooke | adds "quaker oats" to "Jif" and "catsup" |
18:33 | Brooke | ohnoes, that would lead me to believe it's a flavoured variety pack... |
18:33 | chris | apple and cinnamon |
18:33 | Brooke | a yep |
18:33 | I reckon he won't eat the plain. | |
18:33 | (and honestly, why would you?) | |
18:33 | chris | he eats plain rolled oats normally |
18:34 | with brown sugar on top admittedly, but only half a teaspoon ... not 598237349 spoons full | |
18:34 | :) | |
18:34 | Brooke | the little mister mixes up a wicked steel cut oatmeal |
18:34 | but it totally defeats the purpose of oats in the first place. | |
18:34 | chris | its too hot for porridge today anyway ... he's a weirdo |
18:35 | Brooke | it's too cold for Ice Cream here |
18:35 | and yet... | |
18:36 | chris | :) |
18:37 | darling would say (if he was here) its never too cold for ice cream | |
18:37 | Brooke | man after me scarred nearly non extant heart. |
18:40 | chris | theres a good shop in cuba street that does real fruit ice cream |
18:41 | Brooke | Taunt me not. |
18:41 | I went there with Nicole. | |
18:41 | Cuba street also has a bead shop that I just about knocked over. | |
18:42 | the community would have looked much better for our koha were I to have the teeny weeny beads now in my possession. | |
19:00 | owen-away is now known as owen | |
19:02 | nengard | what about nicole ... |
19:02 | west chester | |
19:02 | :) | |
19:03 | Brooke | we went to that little health shoppe with the ridiculously good yoghurt. |
19:03 | in Wellies. | |
19:04 | nengard | hey - i'm reading 'the art of community' and it talks about that ubuntu rules of community |
19:04 | we need to use that | |
19:06 | chris | i like the debian social contract |
19:06 | http://www.debian.org/social_contract | |
19:06 | larsw | chris, I like it too! :) |
19:06 | nengard | http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct |
19:07 | combine the two :) | |
19:07 | Brooke | that sounds like a job for a bullshitter! |
19:07 | nengard | i know one of those :) |
19:07 | larsw | the Ubuntu CoC is nice, too |
19:07 | owen | nengard: In my test 530u is linked in the OPAC MARC view |
19:07 | nengard | of course it is .... |
19:08 | cause none of my bugs are really bugs | |
19:08 | chris | yes the code of conduct is nice too |
19:08 | nengard | :) |
19:08 | owen - i'll have to retest later - testing sekjal's new devs right now | |
19:08 | * owen | thinks that's a good thing for nengard to be doing! |
19:09 | chris | doing a koha code of conduct/social contract seems like a nice idea |
19:09 | whats the license on them i wonder | |
19:10 | * chris | goes to look |
19:10 | chris | open publication license for the debian one afaict |
19:10 | druthb | CC A-SA, for Ubuntu |
19:12 | * owen | 's library just got a flier from http://www.bslw.com |
19:13 | owen | Interesting because it says, "Maybe you're considering an open-source solution" |
19:13 | chris | oh yeah? |
19:14 | they are offering to do migration? | |
19:14 | that would be pretty cool | |
19:15 | owen | Apparently they do upgrading and enhancing of your existing catalog in preparation for a migration |
19:15 | And partner with someone else for actual migrations | |
19:15 | Interesting business model | |
19:16 | chris | oh thats a useful thing |
19:19 | gmcharlt | owen: any ILS, or just Evergreen? |
19:20 | owen | gmcharlt: I poked around but couldn't find reference to any particular ILS |
19:31 | nengard | ubuntu is creative commons license |
19:31 | chris that comment was to you - just catching up | |
19:31 | yes | |
19:32 | Brooke left #koha | |
19:35 | chris | I reckon take the ideas write something that works for us |
19:38 | richard left #koha | |
19:39 | chris | Brooke was getting there with the mission statement |
19:46 | nengard | anyone know how to delete files from the wiki? I blocked two spammers, but their PDFs are still there: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/Special:NewFiles |
19:46 | chris | I think we need gmcharlt for that |
19:48 | gmcharlt | nengard: deleting them now |
19:48 | nengard | thanks gmcharlt |
19:48 | gmcharlt | when you select one of those files from Special:NewFiles, are you seeing the file history link? |
19:50 | nengard | no it downloads the file automatically |
19:50 | very bad | |
19:50 | for the PDfs that is | |
19:51 | with the images I see the page with the history | |
19:53 | gmcharlt | odd - doesn't do that to me |
19:53 | * gmcharlt | shrugs |
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20:14 | cait | hi #koha |
20:15 | magnus_a | hiya cait |
20:15 | cait | hi magnus |
20:15 | chris | Hi cait |
20:16 | cait | hi chris |
20:16 | hope you had great christmas holidays :) | |
20:19 | nengard | owen thanks for marking that a dup - i searched forever and couldn't find that darn bug |
20:19 | is it not categories in virtual shelves? | |
20:20 | owen | Apparently not: OPAC instead. |
20:20 | Tricky. | |
20:20 | I knew right away it was a dupe because I'm working on a fix for it | |
20:20 | nengard | i knew you were! I just couldn't find the darn thing |
20:20 | and i searched by 'lists' but you get a ton of bugs | |
20:21 | owen | Yeah, sometimes finding the right bug is a pain even though you know it's there |
20:23 | Actually my fix for 3523 is pretty close, but it has the same problem as Bug 5529 and I don't know how to fix it | |
20:23 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5529 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Staff client shows "Your lists:" and "public lists:" when there are none |
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20:25 | * owen | was hoping someone smarter than him would find bug 5529 a simple one |
20:27 | chris | cait: still on holiday until the 5th |
20:29 | Hmm I can try to look at that owen | |
20:29 | owen | Thanks chris, I'd appreciate it |
20:31 | cait | chris: 6th :) |
20:31 | chris | Heh one more day than me :) |
20:34 | nengard | no holiday in the US |
20:34 | owen | In the US we're lucky if we get an extra day off because Christmas was on a Saturday. |
20:34 | nengard | unless you have vaca time |
20:34 | or work for a school | |
20:34 | cait | 6th is a holiday here - so back at work on friday |
20:35 | chris | we get xmas, and boxing day, then 1st and 2nd |
20:35 | But because they fall on the weekend we get | |
20:35 | 27, 28, and 3 4 | |
20:35 | cait | 24th and 31th because because I work for the state, 25th, 26th and 1st are holidays |
20:36 | chris | So I took 3 days off and had from the 24th to the 5th as holiday |
20:36 | cait | we don't get something when they wall on the weekend |
20:36 | bad luck this year | |
20:36 | wall = fall | |
20:36 | nengard | hey chris - bengard thought it was cute that Kahu calls oatmeal porridge (spell) |
20:38 | chris | Doesn't everyone ? :) |
20:39 | owen | I should start calling oatmeal American porridge to my kids |
20:40 | chris | :) |
20:40 | nengard | can anyone else confirm for me that 'allowreneallimitoverride' is being ignored in head? |
20:41 | i have an item that is not renewable and that pref set to 'allow' | |
20:41 | but i can't renew | |
20:41 | don't want to report the bug if no one else can recreate - i found it on two installs of HEAD though | |
20:42 | cait | nengard: the override checkbox is not showing up? |
20:43 | nengard | cait - oh my goodness ... yes it is :) |
20:43 | don't know why i thought it was in a different place | |
20:43 | chris | Lol |
20:43 | nengard | thank you :) |
20:43 | my brain is so tired | |
20:43 | owen | I think the bug is that if you scan the barcode on the circ page you aren't allowed to renew it that way |
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20:44 | nengard | that i did have happen to me ... and i agree |
20:44 | owen | If 'allowreneallimitoverride' is set, it ought to ask you to confirm that you want to override the limit |
20:44 | nengard | yup |
20:44 | cait | nengard: I can understand that - stayed up until 6am 2 days in a row now |
20:44 | feeling... strange | |
20:44 | nengard | ick |
20:44 | owen | Another example of how scanning operations differ from the bulk operations you can perform from the list of checkouts. |
20:45 | chris | Cait parties hard |
20:45 | owen: yeah a bug for synchronising those would be good | |
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20:47 | cait | not really |
20:48 | first I was not able to stop reading and yesterday I played par tof the night shift of our 24h tichu tournament | |
20:48 | tichu is a card game | |
20:48 | :) | |
20:48 | but I gave up before breakfast - no luck | |
20:49 | * nengard | doesn't want to even stay up for new years - want to go to bed nice and early |
20:49 | nengard | bengard says i can't :( |
20:50 | chris | Ill be asleep by 11 |
20:50 | Haven't stayed up in years | |
20:51 | cait | I am invited to a friends - they will make me stay up |
20:51 | * owen | figures he'll stay up late again when his kids get old enough to be allowed to |
20:53 | chris | Yeah |
20:54 | rhcl | <speaking as a non-librarian> Can we do this in Koha? Will my Tech Services manager know what to do? |
20:54 | http://www.web2learning.net/ar[…]arned+Today...%29 | |
20:57 | chris | We can and I have |
20:57 | nengard | hey that's my site :) |
20:57 | and if your tech services person does imports of records then she'll have no prob with this | |
20:58 | except i guess that she has to use marcedit to edit the item records (if you have item records) | |
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20:59 | chris | There are no items with those |
20:59 | rhcl | OK, lemme see if I can stir the pot here... |
20:59 | chris | You can just import them straight in |
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21:01 | nengard | awesome |
21:01 | i want to get a fresh install of koha before i play with it | |
21:01 | i'm gonna then use my fresh install to catalog my home library | |
21:02 | my current install is full of junk data | |
21:03 | chris | http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]iblionumber=42375 |
21:03 | heres one i prepared earlier | |
21:05 | http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]iblionumber=42376 | |
21:05 | etc | |
21:07 | took about 10 mins, to download the file load it in | |
21:09 | very cool idea | |
21:09 | the other cool idea | |
21:09 | is | |
21:10 | http://amazon.libcat.org/cgi-bin/azorder.pl | |
21:10 | will create you a marc record, from an amazon record | |
21:11 | rhcl | I really like this idea... |
21:11 | chris | i must ask the guy if the code is gpl'd |
21:11 | if so we could add it to koha | |
21:11 | nengard | chris that is cool - we just need to be able to do it in batches |
21:11 | and yes add to koha!!! | |
21:12 | chris | ill email the guy and ask |
21:13 | nengard | k - time to log out and lay down a bit |
21:13 | talk to you all later | |
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21:15 | chris | done |
21:16 | we'll see what he says | |
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21:19 | chris | drotsk my man |
21:19 | drotsk | hi chris |
21:20 | and hi #koha | |
21:20 | magnus_a | hi drotsk |
21:20 | chris | your lovely wife still off pedicuring herself? |
21:22 | drotsk | she's been out of town the last couple days, visiting friends from university |
21:22 | chris | ahhh |
21:22 | drotsk | should be home this evening however |
21:22 | chris | cool |
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21:28 | magnus_a | jcam - man in black? |
21:28 | jcam_mib | No, jcamins demonstrating mibbit. |
21:28 | chris | hmm i know i shouldnt let this annoy me |
21:28 | but it does | |
21:28 | * jcam_mib | is going now, though. |
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21:29 | chris | https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bi[…]T=0&F=&S=&P=99306 |
21:29 | * chris | decides not to reply |
21:29 | cait | heh |
21:32 | chris | OMG |
21:32 | the collosal irony of this | |
21:32 | http://twitter.com/sabram/stat[…]20216529954017280 | |
21:33 | coming from the man who authored the whitepaper that equates open source with helping terrorists i find that utterly priceless | |
21:35 | and i think he actually tried to justify that whitepaper by saying he was playing devils advocate, or words to that affect if he hadnt tried to rewrite history by deleting the posts about it from his blog, id go find it and tweet it | |
21:48 | magnus_a | g'night #koha |
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22:04 | chris | heya darling |
22:04 | ibot | i think darling is a little nervous around bots. |
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22:13 | robin | ibot: I think you are right. |
22:13 | ibot | ...but ibot is a clever being... |
22:13 | * druthb | pulls out her slingshot and watches ibot suspiciously. |
22:21 | darling | hi everybody |
22:21 | just had to get the coffee working | |
22:22 | druthb | :) Hi, darling. |
22:22 | darling | then I got distracted by something |
22:22 | hi druthb ! | |
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23:16 | druthb_a is now known as druthb | |
23:18 | cait | good night all |
23:18 | druthb | g'night, cait! :) |
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23:32 | robin | I think it's time the shelf browser code got its own module so that we don't have SQL statements in the display generation code. |
23:32 | druthb | robin++ |
23:34 | chris | thats a patch id accept |
23:35 | robin | and a good thing to get into while the office is like the Mary Celeste |
23:35 | chris | yup |
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