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| 00:00 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
| 00:05 | Nate left #koha | |
| 00:07 | * jcamins | has a very tilted oven. |
| 00:08 | jcamins | pianohack++ # for bug wrangling |
| 00:10 | pianohack | Now, time to use munin to harass some bug reporters |
| 00:10 | _obviously_ the intended use of "later tell" | |
| 00:11 | jcamins | pianohack: of course. |
| 00:18 | pianohack | There, that should be the right time to RESOLVED FIXED bug 5520 :) |
| 00:18 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5520 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, pianohacker, RESOLVED FIXED, No .packages file for Ubuntu Maverick |
| 00:19 | chris | AH HA |
| 00:19 | git show 3daa3143 | |
| 00:19 | * chris | finds out why availability searches dont work |
| 00:19 | chris | if you revert that patch, they do |
| 00:20 | and then | |
| 00:20 | jcamins | Wait, so why does it work for most libraries? |
| 00:20 | chris | i know why it works for mine |
| 00:21 | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]efdd79554572cc430 | |
| 00:22 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 00:22 | chris | but id like to know if it works for you .. if you have that 3daa3143 commit |
| 00:22 | and availibility search works | |
| 00:23 | jcamins | I didn't try. |
| 00:23 | Hold on. | |
| 00:23 | chris | thanks |
| 00:24 | jcamins | What on earth does the availability search *do*? |
| 00:24 | chris | looks for items taht arent lost |
| 00:24 | and arent on loan | |
| 00:24 | pianohack | chris: Confirmed broken on fairly-up-to-date koha install with that commit |
| 00:24 | chris | ta |
| 00:24 | jcamins | http://donum.numismatics.org/c[…]k&limit=available |
| 00:25 | chris | yeah, that commit is retarded |
| 00:25 | jcamins | It's not doing what it's supposed to, but I haven't the foggiest idea what it is doing. |
| 00:25 | chris | now its searching for the word available |
| 00:25 | jcamins | Ohh. |
| 00:25 | I see. | |
| 00:25 | This is about 3.01.145, I think. | |
| 00:26 | chris | yeah nov 9 2009 |
| 00:26 | Removing filter available and hidelostitems at Biblio level | |
| 00:26 | i fixed it jan 1 2010 and promptly forgot to chase it up | |
| 00:26 | jcamins | Sorry, 3.01.00.135 |
| 00:26 | chris | i will resurrect that patch and get people to test |
| 00:27 | i thought i was losing my mind for a while there | |
| 00:27 | i guess no one uses it :) | |
| 00:28 | jcamins | We don't because very few of our records have items. |
| 00:28 | chris | yeah |
| 00:28 | i wonder why the heck it was commented out, that commit tells me nothing, except it wasnt signed off | |
| 00:30 | interesting | |
| 00:30 | jcamins | They needed the ability to keyword search by available? |
| 00:30 | chris | you can do that :) |
| 00:30 | jcamins | Oh. Well, I'm out of ideas, then. |
| 00:31 | pianohack | AFAICT, the code in Search.pm only checks the limit, not the general search |
| 00:31 | chris | yeah |
| 00:32 | ahh look | |
| 00:32 | yeah you dont want to revert | |
| 00:33 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]63670118ac6a0bb11 | |
| 00:33 | followed by | |
| 00:33 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]21b2b6c233ccd339c | |
| 00:33 | looks to me like there should have been another 2299 commit to fix availability too | |
| 00:33 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 00:33 | * chris | will hunt the biblibre repo now |
| 00:34 | chris | nope only one there too |
| 00:34 | looks like htey got halfway through changing how the were both implemented and didnt finish | |
| 00:35 | ill try to catch up with hdl and find out if he can remember | |
| 00:35 | but at least have tracked down the issue | |
| 00:35 | pianohack | Should I really be asking the original reporter to be RESOLVEing these really trivial bugs? For many, you want to make sure it was fixed the way they wanted, but there's really only one way to fix something like bug 4176 |
| 00:35 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4176 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, MIME missing from sys prefs interface |
| 00:35 | pianohack | chris++ # for detective work :) |
| 00:35 | chris | really trivial ones, its fine to just mark them resolved |
| 00:36 | pianohack | k, will do, thank you |
| 00:48 | chris | jcamins: did you ever here back from the code4lib people? |
| 00:49 | hear too | |
| 00:49 | jcamins | Not yet. |
| 00:50 | chris | ah well, it was worth a shot :) |
| 00:50 | jcamins | But it was fixed. |
| 00:50 | chris | oh cool |
| 00:51 | jcamins | (just saw) |
| 00:51 | chris | awesome |
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| 01:59 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
| 02:03 | * druthb | returns to the keyboard after coping with Stuff That Happens Abruptly. |
| 02:03 | chris | thats the worst kinda stuff |
| 02:04 | druthb | yah, was messy. |
| 02:04 | how's chris today? | |
| 02:06 | chris | not too bad, its pretty quiet |
| 02:06 | druthb | :) |
| 02:06 | want some loud? I have a-plenty. | |
| 02:06 | chris | ill pass :) |
| 02:07 | druthb | aww!! |
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| 02:35 | * wasabi | waves from kapiti... |
| 02:36 | chris | feeling SMART ? :) |
| 02:51 | wasabi | heh, i havent read that email yet... |
| 02:52 | is it an acronym even? | |
| 02:52 | chris | yes |
| 02:52 | Share and Manage a Region Together | |
| 02:52 | its obviously one they came with | |
| 02:52 | to fit the letters | |
| 02:53 | wasabi | yep :) |
| 03:11 | i really must remember to join that list, and others... | |
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| 04:01 | Oak | \o |
| 04:02 | pianohack | Hello, Oak |
| 04:02 | Oak | hiya pianohack :) |
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| 04:07 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 04:22 | pianohack | Hey Brooke |
| 04:22 | Brooke | :) |
| 04:23 | thanks for giving the project your holiday time. | |
| 04:23 | pianohack | Hehe, np |
| 04:23 | Fairly relaxing, compared to school | |
| 04:23 | Brooke | nothing is as stressful as school |
| 04:23 | pianohack | By the way... are cait and kf different people, perchance? |
| 04:23 | Brooke | I am absolutely convinced of that. |
| 04:23 | pianohack | (and indeed) |
| 04:23 | Brooke | nope |
| 04:23 | pianohack | Woopsie |
| 04:25 | Brooke | gah bid time. |
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| 04:30 | pianohack | Oak: Don't know if we've been introduced |
| 04:31 | Oak | let's fix that :) |
| 04:32 | pianohack | My name's Jesse Weaver, I'm a freshman in college that screws around with Koha's admin interface in his spare time and has done various odd Koha jobs for the past few years |
| 04:33 | Oak | pleased to meet you Jesse |
| 04:33 | pianohack | yourself? |
| 04:34 | Oak | I am Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla. |
| 04:34 | where are you from? pianohack | |
| 04:34 | pianohack | I'm from southern Colorado, in the US |
| 04:35 | Oak | kewl |
| 04:35 | pianohack | You're from Pakistan? |
| 04:35 | Oak | yup |
| 04:35 | pianohack | (Guessing from an IP lookup) |
| 04:35 | Oak | traceroute? |
| 04:35 | pianohack | http://www.maxmind.com/app/lookup_city |
| 04:35 | Useful for occasional curiosity :) | |
| 04:36 | How's Pakistan? | |
| 04:36 | Oak | not great. as you may know. |
| 04:36 | corrupt government. inflation. no security. hundreds of other issues | |
| 04:37 | you know, the usual | |
| 04:37 | pianohack | Yeah, hasn't sounded pleasant |
| 04:38 | So do you already have an undergrad degree, or how are you studying for your degree? | |
| 04:39 | Oak | yes I have an under grad degree. But not in Library Science :) |
| 04:39 | pianohack | Computer science? (that's what I'm studying, just curious) |
| 04:40 | Oak | Yes. And my boss persuaded me to go for Library Sc. instead of computer science masters. |
| 04:42 | pianohack | If its anything like the States, you can get a lot of jobs with a masters in library science |
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| 04:43 | Oak | that's what my boss said about here, in Pakistan :) Here, not many people go for Library Science. And there is need for LS professionals. |
| 04:54 | pianohack | Okay, good night, koha |
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| 06:26 | cait | hi #koha |
| 06:30 | hdl | hi all |
| 06:30 | cait | morning hdl |
| 06:30 | hdl | hi cait |
| 06:30 | cait | today is my last day at work this year :) |
| 06:31 | hdl | oh good... For me it will be tomorrow. |
| 06:31 | So If we donot have any chance, | |
| 06:31 | Frohe Weinachten. | |
| 06:31 | cait | we don't have to work tomorrow |
| 06:32 | Frohe Weihnachten :) | |
| 06:33 | hdl | Und Die allerbesten Wünsche |
| 06:33 | fûr die neue Jahre. | |
| 06:38 | cait | an d a happy new year :) |
| 06:51 | hdl | ach.... Rechtschreibung... Ich dachte es war gut... |
| 06:51 | ok... time to take the bus. | |
| 06:52 | cait | es war sehr gut |
| 06:52 | see you later hdl | |
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| 08:02 | magnus | kia ora, #koha |
| 08:04 | hdl | hi magnus |
| 08:05 | magnus | hiya, flying fox! |
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| 08:07 | magnus | hi matts |
| 08:07 | matts | hi |
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| 08:20 | kf | morning #koha |
| 08:20 | chris: any chance you are still around? :) | |
| 08:20 | magnus | hiya kf |
| 08:21 | kf | hi magnus |
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| 08:53 | francharb | hello #koha |
| 08:54 | magnus | hello francharb |
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| 09:41 | wasabi | "Skype goes titsup across globe" |
| 09:41 | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/22/skype/ | |
| 09:42 | nice headline... ;) | |
| 09:44 | ooooohh.... | |
| 09:44 | http://idle.slashdot.org/story[…]t-Opens-UFO-Files | |
| 09:45 | stuff.co.nz is about to get a slashdot :) | |
| 09:48 | magnus | hehe |
| 09:48 | wasabi | i sure hope their .NET server is fully patched!?! |
| 09:49 | lol | |
| 09:50 | magnus | .NET?!? |
| 09:51 | wasabi | hur hur |
| 09:54 | very nice 'page-viewer' .app in UFO story tho… :) | |
| 09:55 | and a apple-osx dock effect too! (on the bottom) | |
| 09:59 | oooh, and a GUI switch for ubuntu too, a big deal... | |
| 09:59 | http://www.channelregister.co.[…]buntu_the_future/ | |
| 10:00 | … that is quite ambitious.. but sounds good? :) | |
| 10:01 | magnus | um, not sure about that... |
| 10:01 | "Unity also moves application menus out of the window and into the global menu bar, a la OS X" | |
| 10:02 | i hate that | |
| 10:02 | braedon|h | it is fine for full screen apps - so i like it on my netbook |
| 10:03 | but on desktop? no thanks | |
| 10:03 | wasabi | agreed, dont force *that* on me, of all things |
| 10:03 | magnus | yup! |
| 10:03 | braedon|h | hopefully they will change it so that it only does it when the window is maximised |
| 10:03 | or just let you disable it | |
| 10:03 | wasabi | hell yeah, but hay…. i understand why someone thinks its a good idea :/ |
| 10:04 | magnus | oh well, there will always be other distros if ubuntu does something stupid ;-) |
| 10:05 | wasabi | everyone will just disable it, when the hack becomes a 1-liner ;) |
| 10:05 | but, the big picture sounds great! | |
| 10:06 | if great = not X11 , lol | |
| 10:07 | magnus | and taking mobile, tablets etc into account is probably a good strategy |
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| 10:25 | wasabi | a good read on the topic too... |
| 10:26 | http://www.freesoftwaremagazin[…]ux_exciting_again | |
| 10:44 | hdl | @mediawiki-- A,y idea how o import smoothly a table (ggl spreadsheet) in mediawiki |
| 10:44 | munin | hdl: Error: "mediawiki--" is not a valid command. |
| 10:46 | magnus | hdl: i think you can use the html for the table in mediawiki? |
| 10:47 | hdl | would be hard for ppl to edit would it not ? |
| 10:48 | magnus | yeah, tables are hard to edit anyway, i'm afraid... |
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| 11:04 | magnus | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables |
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| 11:45 | wasabi | hdl: convert ggl table to csv, then import csv to mediawiki :/ |
| 11:45 | … it looks to be the best way forward | |
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| 12:55 | nengard | any git experts around? I have two commits I need to revert on the manual now that code has been pulled out ... tips on how to do that? |
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| 12:58 | hdl | nengard: git revert commitid |
| 12:58 | git push | |
| 12:58 | nengard | thanks hdl! |
| 12:58 | hdl | and you're set ;) |
| 12:59 | which code are you referring to ? | |
| 12:59 | nengard | the manual |
| 12:59 | ibot | the manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 12:59 | nengard | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1813ea90701c2138b |
| 12:59 | and | |
| 12:59 | hdl | which code has been pulledout |
| 12:59 | Oak | \o |
| 13:00 | nengard | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]35692ff0bc236fbca |
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| 13:00 | nengard | OH! - sorry - the circ and fine rules changes |
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| 13:01 | chris_n` is now known as chris_n | |
| 13:02 | nengard | hi owen and chris_n |
| 13:02 | owen | Hi |
| 13:02 | ibot | salut, owen |
| 13:02 | owen | Safe travels yesterday nengard? |
| 13:02 | chris_n | heya nengard |
| 13:02 | nengard | yep, only a tini tiny delay |
| 13:02 | owen | Are you there or back now? |
| 13:03 | nengard | now time to catch up on over 200 commits that aren't in the manual yet (did the bugs last week - or whenever that was) |
| 13:03 | I'm home | |
| 13:04 | how do i get a commit id? | |
| 13:05 | owen | Working from what nengard? |
| 13:05 | nengard | git |
| 13:05 | if i'm in the manual repo and i want to revert a commit i need the commit id | |
| 13:06 | owen | You could use git log to browse the last commits |
| 13:06 | magnus_a is now known as magnus | |
| 13:07 | nengard | and so in this section: |
| 13:07 | commit 41fcbc4dc15e3f1f0bf0537ed9e4a3988e197314 | |
| 13:07 | Author: Nicole C. Engard <nengardgmail.com> |
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| 13:07 | Date: Tue Dec 14 11:05:36 2010 -0500 | |
| 13:07 | the commit line is the ID? | |
| 13:07 | owen | Yes |
| 13:09 | nengard | thanks |
| 13:10 | grrr | |
| 13:10 | looks like i might not be able to do this as a revert | |
| 13:11 | warning: Cannot merge binary files: en/images/admin/patroncirc/addcircrule.png | |
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| 13:11 | owen | You've got me there nengard |
| 13:12 | nengard | yup |
| 13:12 | okay - will just do new screenshots, it's only 2 images | |
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| 13:15 | Oak | \o |
| 13:22 | nengard | okay manuals reverted ... i think :) |
| 13:25 | owen | Oh, here we go: UI bling! http://www.loadinfo.net/ |
| 13:25 | * owen | is gonna light up Koha like a Christmas tree! |
| 13:27 | jwagner | Yikes! |
| 13:28 | * jwagner | distracts owen with a large spiked eggnogg.... |
| 13:28 | magnus | yay, the animated gifs are back! |
| 13:28 | owen | Sorry, no dice. I can't think of anything that goes less well with a good spike than egg. |
| 13:29 | magnus | party like it's 1997! |
| 13:29 | jwagner | Hmmm. How about some spiked cookies? |
| 13:31 | * owen | would be happily distracted that way |
| 13:41 | * jwagner | ships lots of cookies in the general direction of Ohio |
| 13:42 | * owen | will stand at the border checking all vehicles |
| 13:42 | owen | Better with an animated gif? http://screencast.com/t/Rpoun2HeLO6 |
| 13:43 | * jwagner | doesn't want owen to freeze; am arranging a parachute drop |
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| 13:50 | magnus | owen: it doesn't hurt, methinks |
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| 14:21 | kf | http://www.swr.de/nachrichten/[…]7pbfho/index.html :( |
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| 14:22 | jwagner | kf, that's not your building, is it? |
| 14:22 | kf | no |
| 14:22 | but right in the middle of the old parts of the city / shopping district | |
| 14:23 | 2 people hurt, 4 buldings damaged | |
| 14:23 | 15th century buildings | |
| 14:23 | jwagner | Not good :-( |
| 14:24 | kf | no |
| 14:24 | 250 firemen and other helpers | |
| 14:24 | they expect they will have to watch it for 3 more days | |
| 14:26 | I was there yesterday, several times, while shopping for christmas presents | |
| 14:39 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 14:39 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 14:39 | Scary! | |
| 14:41 | owen | The quandry of a bug fixer: After my changes, the feature is broken in IE. But before my change, it was broken *differently* in IE. Progress? |
| 14:42 | * magnus_a | wishes everyone a very merry holiday! |
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| 14:52 | nengard | another git question, i just commited some changes to the 3.4 manual and realized I need the same things on the 3.2 manual, but I didn't create a patch - is there a way to generate a patch after the fact? |
| 14:54 | owen | You can specify a previous commit ID with git format-patch |
| 14:54 | nengard | found it! :) |
| 14:55 | gonna get these darn things up to date before the end of today if it kills me | |
| 14:55 | I'm way way way too far behind | |
| 14:56 | @later tell wizzyrea can you pull the manuals to the koha site when you get a chance - also there needs to be a link to the 3.4 manual since it's diff from the 3.2 one (only a little - but different just the same) | |
| 14:56 | munin | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:56 | owen | nengard: You're worth more to us alive than dead |
| 14:56 | nengard | this is true .... |
| 14:56 | but you know what I meant :) | |
| 14:57 | kf | hdl: the problem with diacritics is a known issue - I think chris already has the solution, but it's not on the branch yet |
| 14:57 | owen | I just wanted to express my appreciation in a bounty-hunter-ish sort of way :) |
| 14:57 | kf | hdl: he made me change one line in Template.pm and after that it worked :) |
| 14:57 | hdl: there are also some other small issues - but it overall it works really great | |
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| 14:59 | hdl | nengard: git cherry-pick commitid |
| 14:59 | Brooke | Tēnā koutou |
| 15:00 | hdl | would have done the trick |
| 15:01 | kf: I was not sure it was exactly the same issue. | |
| 15:01 | kf: But yes... It reminded me something. | |
| 15:02 | kf: do you also have the feeling that Template::Toolkit goes faster ? | |
| 15:02 | kf | not sure - I am testing on a slow and old laptop |
| 15:02 | hdl | kf: I might be distracted by the flashy new tools |
| 15:03 | kf | new tools? |
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| 15:06 | druthb | o/ |
| 15:06 | * Brooke | smiles at druthb |
| 15:07 | jcamins | wizzyrea: Good news for Kansas: balloon rides on untethered balloons are not subject to the state's amusement tax. :D |
| 15:07 | Good morning, druthb. | |
| 15:07 | druthb | howdy! :) |
| 15:07 | Brooke | excellent, my dirigible shall escape the LAW |
| 15:08 | jcamins | Brooke: but only if it's untethered. Tethered balloon rides are subject to Kansas's amusement tax. |
| 15:09 | Brooke | I shall store it in a hangar outside Kansas. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it ;P |
| 15:10 | of course! | |
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| 15:10 | Brooke | we can totally purchase a zeppelin and use that to get to NZ regularly. |
| 15:10 | this plan cannot possibly fail. | |
| 15:10 | nengard | jcamins where the heck did you find that bit of news? hehe |
| 15:11 | * Brooke | points out that jcamins is a pedlar of the obscure. |
| 15:12 | kf | Brooke: we have zeppelins around here.. |
| 15:12 | Brooke | I know, you're totally holding out on the community :P |
| 15:12 | kf | flying over the city and the lake in summer |
| 15:13 | drotsk | morning #koha |
| 15:13 | Brooke | if only I had pursued a lucrative and sexy career in criminal justice. I'd be able to commandeer a craft. |
| 15:13 | hey drotsk | |
| 15:13 | drotsk | ooh zeppelins |
| 15:13 | o/ | |
| 15:13 | Brooke | but not Led ones |
| 15:13 | \ooo/ | |
| 15:14 | drotsk | i find it interesting that alternate realities in many tv shows always seem to show the ubiquity of zeppelins |
| 15:14 | druthb | Brooke, we're not *that* far from Lakehurst; think we could find one there, and commandeer it? |
| 15:14 | Brooke | >.> |
| 15:14 | <.< | |
| 15:14 | we have no authoritay | |
| 15:14 | jcamins | nengard: "interesting taxes." |
| 15:14 | * druthb | hands Brooke a clipboard. |
| 15:15 | druthb | Anyone walking around with a clipboard and looking worried is assumed to be on something important. |
| 15:15 | Fake it til you make it. | |
| 15:15 | Brooke | meh, I've had much more success going where I'm not meant to be with a greasy bag and or pizza box. |
| 15:15 | druthb | oooh, yeah. That works too. |
| 15:16 | owen | Man you should have seen the look on the plain-clothed cop's face when I asked him if he had a permit to carry a handgun into the library |
| 15:17 | Brooke | tee hee |
| 15:17 | owen | He should have thanked me |
| 15:17 | * Brooke | is notorious for hassling the Albany Chief of Police for photo identification and a letter from home. |
| 15:17 | jcamins | Heh. Well, at least his disguise was effective, right? |
| 15:17 | * druthb | pictures the Mighty Owen facing down a big ol' cop. |
| 15:17 | Brooke | I give him much credit for realising why I had to do it. |
| 15:18 | it's not hard to picture Owen doing that at all. | |
| 15:18 | drotsk | nope, i can totally see owen doing that |
| 15:19 | * drotsk | highfives owen |
| 15:19 | druthb | hm. |
| 15:19 | ibot: drotsk | |
| 15:19 | ibot | druthb: huh? |
| 15:19 | druthb | ibot: drotsk? |
| 15:19 | ibot | druthb: i haven't a clue |
| 15:19 | druthb | pity. |
| 15:19 | Brooke | ibot: owen? |
| 15:19 | ibot | rumour has it owen is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, covered in awesome brilliance |
| 15:19 | * Brooke | titters. |
| 15:19 | drotsk | and sparkles! |
| 15:20 | * druthb | waits for it... |
| 15:21 | drotsk | drotsk? |
| 15:21 | ibot | you are, like, wizzyrea's hubby, and a ukulele afficianado |
| 15:21 | drotsk | there we go |
| 15:21 | * Brooke | wonders if ibot is just making shite up. |
| 15:22 | drotsk | naw |
| 15:22 | sekjal | brb |
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| 15:22 | druthb | ibot: Brooke? |
| 15:22 | ibot | i think Brooke is certainly gonna go |
| 15:22 | druthb | ibot: forget Brooke |
| 15:22 | ibot | druthb: I forgot brooke |
| 15:22 | druthb | ibot: Brook is just plain awesome, okay? |
| 15:22 | ibot | no idea, druthb |
| 15:22 | druthb | ibot: Brooke is just plain awesome |
| 15:22 | ibot | OK, druthb. |
| 15:23 | * druthb | checks her own spelling. |
| 15:23 | Brooke | ibot: forget Brooke |
| 15:23 | drotsk | \o/ |
| 15:23 | ibot | Brooke: I forgot brooke |
| 15:23 | druthb | harrrumph! |
| 15:25 | Brooke | @roulette |
| 15:25 | munin | Brooke: *click* |
| 15:26 | * druthb | hands pistols to ibot and hudsonbot, just to even the odds. |
| 15:27 | nengard | got a question about suggestion emails - are they being sent to anyone who submits a purchase suggestion? |
| 15:27 | * Brooke | wonders if she'll end up the target of another firing squad... |
| 15:27 | nengard | or is there supposed to be a preference or messaging option for patrons to decide if they get that email? |
| 15:28 | Brooke | I think there might be two separate toggles. |
| 15:28 | drotsk | this is what I imagine playing while ibot and hudsonbot duke it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tx0Zl9RNuE |
| 15:28 | nengard | where might i find those? cause i'm not seeing them |
| 15:30 | this is in reference to the commits of bug 4211, bug 5127 and bug 5126 | |
| 15:30 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4211 major, P2, ---, chris, NEW, Acquisitions actions on suggestions don't generate email |
| 15:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5127 major, P5, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, No sample suggestions notices are installed by default | |
| 15:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5126 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Suggestions module missing from "add notice" form. | |
| 15:31 | owen | nengard: I don't know of a setting for that |
| 15:31 | nengard | yeah - i'm not seeing one, so i'm assuming the system just sends the emails (now that it's fixed) |
| 15:31 | I don't have emails on on my system to test with | |
| 15:37 | kf | nengard: I think you can perhaps deactivate it by deleting the notices templates? |
| 15:38 | have thought about it too - a system preference would be nice | |
| 15:39 | nengard | that's an idea |
| 15:40 | kf i'd say it should be part of the enhanced messages - to let the patron decide if they want the emails or not | |
| 15:40 | kf | nengard: even better :) |
| 15:41 | nengard | off to submit a enhancement :) |
| 15:41 | kf | but perhaps an on /off for the feature would be good too |
| 15:41 | have both | |
| 15:41 | Brooke | *nod* |
| 15:41 | kf | so library can decide if they want to offer the mails |
| 15:41 | Brooke | I agree kf. |
| 15:41 | kf | and let patron decide if he wants to get them |
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| 15:43 | nengard | bug 5539 submitted |
| 15:43 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5539 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Options for Suggestion Emails |
| 15:47 | kf | :) |
| 15:47 | nengard++ | |
| 15:49 | nengard | hmmm .. what's bug 5352 about? |
| 15:49 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5352 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Suggestion messages to patron |
| 15:49 | nengard | is that related? |
| 15:54 | kf | probably |
| 15:54 | nengard | hmmm - thinking I might have to hold off on documenting this until i understand better |
| 15:54 | and know what controls the sending of these emails | |
| 15:54 | kf | I think at the moment they are always sent out |
| 15:55 | if you have the templates - but I have not fully tested it yet | |
| 15:55 | nengard | hmmm |
| 15:55 | kf | missing email on my laptop too |
| 15:55 | nengard | k - gonna write it up |
| 15:55 | we can always revert the manual edits if necessary :) | |
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| 16:02 | jcamins | What's the CCL prefix for searching for biblio-level itypes? |
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| 16:05 | Brooke | bonjour francharb |
| 16:06 | francharb | Hey Brooke! how is it going today |
| 16:06 | ? | |
| 16:06 | Brooke | good enough for gummint woik |
| 16:07 | jcamins | itemtype, for the record. |
| 16:07 | Brooke | and you? |
| 16:08 | francharb | well, too much work but i should not complain, my bosses are overhere! ;) |
| 16:10 | gummint woiik? | |
| 16:10 | you working for the government? | |
| 16:10 | ahah | |
| 16:11 | Brooke | nope |
| 16:11 | it's slang | |
| 16:11 | francharb | i feel like i never had english classes |
| 16:11 | hehe | |
| 16:11 | * Brooke | doesn't speak standard English of any flavour. |
| 16:11 | francharb | you mean hard work? |
| 16:11 | Brooke | so don't feel bad. |
| 16:11 | owen | Brooke can have that effect on people francharb |
| 16:11 | Brooke | nope, easy work. |
| 16:11 | jcamins | francharb: don't worry, I'm a native English speaker, and I can't always figure out what Brooke means. ;) |
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| 16:11 | francharb | lol |
| 16:12 | thanks | |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | it's a slang saying playing off of the fact that government workers often do just enough to get by |
| 16:12 | francharb | ok |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | so to say that it's good enough for government work means that it's enough to get by :) |
| 16:12 | Brooke | that's why I write documentation, so people can't figure what I mean or what Koha does ;) |
| 16:12 | francharb | LOL |
| 16:20 | nengard | oh bugger - just found another section of the manual that I never wrote!!! |
| 16:20 | Brooke | d'oh |
| 16:20 | francharb | thats a bummerf |
| 16:20 | Brooke | it's all those damn new features. ;) |
| 16:20 | nengard | who is running Koha 3.2.2? I really need to get another VM set up with 3.2 so that I have HEAD and 3.2 in two places |
| 16:20 | no time to do that though | |
| 16:21 | * Brooke | has often wondered why there is no developer sandbox. |
| 16:21 | * owen | supposes he ought to ditch his 3.0.x setup and do a 3.2.x one... |
| 16:21 | Brooke | everyone's running their own independent installations and it's kinda weird. |
| 16:22 | nengard | if there were a dev sandbox then we'd be stepping on each other's toes while we worked |
| 16:22 | Brooke | obviously we have to run the right one for our Libraries |
| 16:22 | nengard | we need our own systems to play on and then all submit to one place |
| 16:22 | Brooke | if you're changing stuff |
| 16:23 | if you're figuring stuff out, is that really still necessary? | |
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| 16:23 | hdl | nengard: yes... but having a common reference or a common site to play with... could be helpfull sometimes. |
| 16:23 | owen | jwagner around? |
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| 16:24 | jcamins | It'd be like patch hockey- jcamins changes C4/Biblio.pm, but wait, nengard swoops in, grabbing C4/Biblio.pm she shoots, she... is stopped by pianohack's modification of C4/Reserves.pm! |
| 16:24 | Brooke | you're both assuming no one is talking to one another |
| 16:25 | hdl | jcamins: which one ? |
| 16:25 | owen | There's no reason for multiple people to be developing at the same time on the same system |
| 16:25 | jcamins | hdl: you should probably ignore me- I only have three more days here, and I'm *really* feeling it. |
| 16:25 | owen | Testing maybe, but even then you've got system preferences being switched |
| 16:26 | @later tell jwagner I have a question about Bug 3479 when you get a moment | |
| 16:26 | munin | owen: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:27 | nengard | jcamins i like that image :) |
| 16:29 | kf | ok, time to start holidays :) |
| 16:29 | jcamins | Lucky you! |
| 16:29 | kf | bye all! |
| 16:29 | jcamins | nengard: yes, it has a certain charm to it. |
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| 16:29 | owen | jcamins: Three more days in your job? |
| 16:29 | jcamins | Well, three and a half, since it's only 11:30. |
| 16:30 | nengard | :) |
| 16:30 | jcamins | This afternoon, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. |
| 16:30 | owen | Then what? |
| 16:30 | ibot | Then is equal to |
| 16:31 | * druthb | shoots a rubber-band at ibot |
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| 16:32 | jcamins | This is equal to? |
| 16:32 | *Then is equal to? | |
| 16:32 | What? | |
| 16:33 | I can't even imagine a context when that statement would make sense. | |
| 16:33 | Anyway, starting in January I'll be able to focus more of my time on Koha. :) | |
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| 16:34 | jcamins | Ah-ha! |
| 16:34 | Brooke | ibot: then is equal to later. |
| 16:34 | ibot | ...but then is equal to... |
| 16:34 | Brooke | ibot: forget then |
| 16:34 | ibot | Brooke: I forgot then |
| 16:34 | jcamins | Chris was giving instructions on how to search bugzilla. |
| 16:35 | Brooke | ibot: then is equal to later. |
| 16:35 | ibot | OK, Brooke. |
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| 16:43 | owen | ibot: There is no spoon. |
| 16:43 | ibot | ...but there is some latency in the transfer of translation-manager... |
| 16:43 | owen | ibot: Forget there |
| 16:43 | ibot | owen: I forgot there |
| 16:43 | owen | ibot: There is no spoon. |
| 16:43 | ibot | OK, owen. |
| 16:43 | Brooke | ibot: spoon? |
| 16:43 | ibot | brooke: i don't know |
| 16:43 | Brooke | ibot: there? |
| 16:43 | ibot | it has been said that there is no spoon. |
| 16:43 | nengard | heh |
| 16:45 | jcamins | spoon? |
| 16:45 | ibot | There is no spoon. |
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| 16:47 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 16:47 | |Lupin| | Hello, everybody |
| 16:47 | owen | Hi |Lupin| |
| 16:47 | |Lupin| | hey owen ! :) |
| 16:49 | When I worked with Koha I once saw an excellent document explaining how to ensure that mysql is configured correctly, especially regarding character encodings | |
| 16:49 | I'd need this documen but can't find it again | |
| 16:49 | owen | Yeah, it was part of the old wiki |
| 16:49 | |Lupin| | can anybody remember such a thing, please ? |
| 16:50 | owen | Do we still have that backup of the old wiki? |
| 16:50 | |Lupin| | owen: yes ! It was one of the places I thought it could be. |
| 16:50 | I do hope... :-) | |
| 16:50 | jcamins | I think it's on the new wiki now. |
| 16:50 | Brooke left #koha | |
| 16:50 | jcamins | Let me see if I can find it. |
| 16:50 | |Lupin| | it'd be worth having it in the new one, too, wouldn't it ? |
| 16:50 | jcamins | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]cter_Sets_in_Koha |
| 16:50 | owen | |Lupin|: We lost some content from the old wiki because the authors wouldn't consent to releasing their work under GPL |
| 16:51 | |Lupin| | jcamins: oh, wonderful ! thanks !!! |
| 16:52 | owen: hmm ? wasn't the old wiki in GPL already ? | |
| 16:52 | owen | The content was not explicitly said to be so |
| 16:52 | druthb | hi, |Lupin|! |
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| 16:53 | cait | hi all :) |
| 16:53 | |Lupin| | hello druthb :-) |
| 16:54 | hey, cait :-) | |
| 16:54 | owen: ah, I see... | |
| 16:54 | cait | hi |Lupin| :) |
| 16:54 | |Lupin| | tendency to take it for granted that everything is under GPL / creative commons as soon as one is in the free software field |
| 16:55 | owen | Some disagree, unfortunately. |
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| 16:56 | |Lupin| | yes... too bad... |
| 17:02 | jwagner | owen, sorry, I've been on the phone for a while -- you wanted me? |
| 17:02 | owen | jwagner: Sorry for the Bugzilla bomb, I did some reassigning. |
| 17:03 | Bug 3479 | |
| 17:03 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3479 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Prompt to save patron edits |
| 17:03 | jwagner | yes, I noticed the bomb :-) |
| 17:03 | owen | jwagner: This feature asks you if you're sure you want to save the patron record? |
| 17:04 | jwagner | yes |
| 17:04 | owen | Wouldn't it make more sense to prompt the user if they *don't* try to save the record? |
| 17:05 | cait | like: you have unsave changes, do oyu want to save them now? |
| 17:05 | jwagner | You mean if they try to navigate away from the page without saving? Yes, possibly. |
| 17:05 | But the client asked us for a "are you sure" check on saving, so that's what we wrote :-) | |
| 17:06 | owen | I just don't see what their motivation was. |
| 17:06 | jwagner | They were trying to make Koha work a lot like Horizon in several areas, this may have been one of them. |
| 17:10 | owen | My inclination is to mark that as "won't fix" because it doesn't seem widely useful |
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| 17:15 | jwagner | owen, I've actually found it useful myself a few times, when I edited a field I didn't mean to -- clicking cancel leaves me in the patron record so I don't lose other changes but can fix the problem one |
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| 17:27 | nengard | owen for bug 1883 you say that we need to create some default values, what does the category have to be for this pull down to show? |
| 17:27 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1883 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Managing Suggestions - authorised list of reasons why patron requesting book |
| 17:28 | |Lupin| | hey nengard :) |
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| 17:29 | nengard | Hi Lupin |
| 17:29 | owen | nengard: "OPAC_SUG" |
| 17:29 | nengard | oh you know i think i knew that |
| 17:29 | now that you say that :) | |
| 17:29 | am i right that this hasn't been pushed to head yet? | |
| 17:31 | owen | I think just to a QA branch |
| 17:32 | nengard | k - that's what i thought |
| 17:32 | am down to 110 commit emails to read (from 300) | |
| 17:34 | |Lupin| | just out of curiosity, a question for the developers here |
| 17:35 | hasanybody already seen apache2 segfault on somerequest ? | |
| 17:35 | and if yes, what have the causes been ? | |
| 17:36 | I am asking because this happens tome in aproject which is not related to Koha. I have been suggested that it may come from an encoding problem | |
| 17:36 | and I'm wondering whether this looks like a reasonable hypothesis to you guys | |
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| 17:50 | * jcamins | wishes he were left-handed like everyone else in his family. |
| 17:51 | hdl | hi |Lupin| happy new year... |
| 17:51 | |Lupin| | hey hdl, thanks! |
| 17:52 | hdl: happy new year to you too, and to your relatives | |
| 17:52 | have to go now but may be able to come backin the coming days | |
| 17:52 | bye all | |
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| 17:53 | owen | wizzyrea around? |
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| 18:07 | owen | Hi sekjal |
| 18:07 | sekjal | hi owen |
| 18:18 | francharb | dinner time!! |
| 18:18 | bye all | |
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| 18:21 | nengard | welcome back sekjal |
| 18:21 | so - nothing like last minute - my last 2 presents arrived today (to be handed out tomorrow) | |
| 18:23 | sekjal | thank, nengard. and I've still got a present to wrap sometime tonight.... |
| 18:23 | nengard | oh i didn't say it was all wrapped :) |
| 18:23 | just that ups just dropped off the last 2 | |
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| 18:33 | briceSanc | hello everybody |
| 18:34 | cait | hi sekjal and briceSanc |
| 18:34 | sekjal | hi cait! |
| 18:36 | briceSanc | We regularly have problems with "memcached" Is it necessary to reboot regularly? |
| 18:37 | cait | briceSanc: we don't use it at the moment |
| 18:38 | but I had some problems with it (acq framework was not showing up) | |
| 18:38 | briceSanc | How to disable it? |
| 18:38 | cait | not sure |
| 18:38 | ibot | not sure are you using git? |
| 18:39 | cait | or better don't know |
| 18:39 | I have not activated it during install | |
| 18:39 | briceSanc | because every time we restart memcached, the page reappears correctly. |
| 18:39 | ok | |
| 18:39 | yes i'm using git in head/3.2.x | |
| 18:40 | cait | you should file a bug |
| 18:40 | so it can get fixed or added to documentation | |
| 18:41 | nengard | @later tell wizzyrea okay i'm done with manual updates for today (i think) |
| 18:41 | munin | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | owen: i'm here now |
| 18:42 | nengard | you mean nicole :) |
| 18:42 | and good! | |
| 18:42 | oh you were answering owen from before :) | |
| 18:42 | hehe | |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | hehe yea |
| 18:43 | owen | wizzyrea: I've been looking at some of the Harley-related bug reports |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 18:44 | owen | wizzyrea: I wondered if 4241 is worth looking into |
| 18:44 | Bug 4241 | |
| 18:44 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4241 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Add lost/claims returned displays to patron record |
| 18:45 | chris | Most of them need a bit of a rewrite |
| 18:46 | If you're up for that :) | |
| 18:46 | wizzyrea | that is actually helpful |
| 18:46 | owen | chris: I hesitate to do work that others should be doing, but if there are useful things there I'll hold my nose |
| 18:46 | chris | That one looks useful |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | ok. Now, for real work. |
| 18:47 | * wizzyrea | goes to look at the "needs testing" bugs |
| 18:48 | briceSanc | thks cait, we're trying to stop memcached in koha |
| 18:49 | chris | Just take out the memcached lines in koha-conf.xml |
| 18:49 | cait | morning chris |
| 18:49 | chris | That will stop koha using it |
| 18:49 | briceSanc | chris, cool :) |
| 18:49 | chris | Morning cait |
| 18:49 | * owen | is having a hard time understanding the github interface re: what changes have been made |
| 18:50 | chris | Owen luckily for you |
| 18:50 | There is a ptfs-wip repo | |
| 18:50 | On git.kohacommunity.org | |
| 18:51 | So you can use the more familair gitweb to look | |
| 18:51 | Last day of work for 2010 for me today | |
| 18:52 | briceSanc | chris, me too :) |
| 18:52 | owen | Oh, thanks chris. I looked for that but didn't find it |
| 18:59 | cait | chris: it iwll be over fast |
| 18:59 | chris | Yep |
| 19:00 | Beer o'clock starts early today | |
| 19:00 | I'm already drunk .... | |
| 19:00 | Well not really, its 8am :) | |
| 19:00 | owen | Quick, ask chris to approve all your half-assed patches! |
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| 19:02 | chris | Heh |
| 19:02 | My stop, bbiab | |
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| 19:11 | chris | back |
| 19:12 | owen | Wow, Accounts.pm has a lot of FIXMEs |
| 19:12 | cait | I am not surprised |
| 19:13 | accounts / fines have some serious translation problems too | |
| 19:13 | but I haven't found a way to solve it | |
| 19:13 | those things get saved to the database :( | |
| 19:13 | chris | yeah, its due a rewrite |
| 19:18 | nengard | sekjal is always saying that accounts needs a rewrite |
| 19:19 | cait | and he is right |
| 19:19 | :) | |
| 19:20 | chris | i suspect it will have to wait for 3.6 |
| 19:20 | wizzyrea | which isn't all that far away anyhow |
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| 19:23 | cait | no |
| 19:23 | time is a scary thing | |
| 19:23 | moving very fast | |
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| 19:27 | jwagner | Sorry, I've been away from my desk for a while -- was someone asking for me? |
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| 19:37 | chris | those are some cool features id love to work on |
| 19:37 | owen | ? |
| 19:37 | chris | OPAC Enhancement email to the koha-devel list |
| 19:38 | owen | Are you going to have it wrapped up in time for Christmas? :) |
| 19:38 | chris | im not gonna have anytime to do it... but those are perfect projects for a compsci student |
| 19:38 | * chris | looks at pianohack |
| 19:38 | chris | :) |
| 19:39 | im not sure the academy kids will be up to it | |
| 19:39 | cait | :) |
| 19:39 | chris | chris who is doing the template work could .. but he is busy :) |
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| 19:50 | richard | hi al |
| 19:50 | all even | |
| 19:50 | i don't think al is here | |
| 19:54 | chris | :) |
| 20:00 | owen | wizzyrea: Do you have patron images enabled? |
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| 20:01 | wizzyrea | I don't :/ |
| 20:01 | * owen | sees a layout problem on moremember.pl with patron images enabled, just wondered if it was just me |
| 20:02 | chris | i do, but i dont have many photos in there |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | I will check it! |
| 20:02 | owen | chris: But wizzyrea is using Harley |
| 20:03 | chris | oh right |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | ohhh you meant on harley |
| 20:03 | * wizzyrea | was confused |
| 20:03 | chris | i rode on one of those once |
| 20:03 | owen | Yeah, sorry, I'm testing the changes in Bug 4241 |
| 20:03 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4241 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Add lost/claims returned displays to patron record |
| 20:03 | chris | ah right |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | it's a machine precision engineered to turn fuel into noise |
| 20:04 | owen | ibot: A Harley is a machine precision-engineered to turn fuel into noise |
| 20:04 | ibot | OK, owen. |
| 20:04 | chris | my dad used to ride a triumph |
| 20:04 | thunderbird | |
| 20:05 | when he was in high school | |
| 20:05 | 15 year old on a 650cc bike .. yeah thats a good idea :) | |
| 20:05 | wizzyrea | oi vey |
| 20:05 | harley? | |
| 20:05 | ibot | i think harley is a machine precision-engineered to turn fuel into noise |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | <3 |
| 20:06 | chris | he used to ditch school and ride over the port hills |
| 20:06 | in christchurch | |
| 20:06 | to get fish and chips | |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | you mean shark and potatoes? |
| 20:06 | chris | yup |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 20:06 | chris | cept we dont use shark anymore |
| 20:06 | but it would have been back then | |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | now see, someone told me you did |
| 20:06 | briceSanc | happy holidays ! |
| 20:06 | drotsk | ah, the much vaunted engineering to convert gasoline into noise, without the side effect of horsepower |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | but they may have been making fun of the dumb american |
| 20:07 | briceSanc | and merry christmas ! |
| 20:07 | chris | they stopped about 15 years ago |
| 20:07 | briceSanc | bye ! |
| 20:07 | chris | thanks briceSanc |
| 20:07 | eric_b is now known as ebegin | |
| 20:07 | chris | bye |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea: too much mercury in shark | |
| 20:07 | briceSanc left #koha | |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | that's true I suppose: top end of the food chain and all that |
| 20:07 | chris | Triumph obtained further publicity with Marlon Brando's 1953 motion picture, The Wild One, in which he rode a 1950 6T Thunderbird. |
| 20:07 | now picture my dad as marlon brando | |
| 20:07 | hehe | |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | O.O |
| 20:08 | chris | he only had one crash |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | well technically, one is all you need :P |
| 20:09 | chris | when he was fanging along and hit a bee |
| 20:09 | no full face helmets back then | |
| 20:10 | so he took up gliding instead | |
| 20:10 | consequently ive never had problem getting permission to do crazy things :-) | |
| 20:10 | drotsk | i can see it, i've met the man. :P |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | hahaha |
| 20:12 | chris | http://kupu.maori.nz/ |
| 20:12 | get a new maori word a day | |
| 20:14 | drotsk | hākari Kirīhimete indeed |
| 20:20 | * owen | realizes this must be what git cherry-pick is for... |
| 20:24 | chris | *nod* |
| 20:24 | well be far less pain than trying to rebase | |
| 20:25 | owen | Every time I think I can get away with not knowing something about git... |
| 20:25 | chris | :) |
| 20:26 | owen | Can you pass a series of commits to git cherry-pick? Will it do them in order? |
| 20:26 | chris | hmm, im not sure about that, have never tried doing that |
| 20:27 | i usually just ahve 2 windows open one with git log and the other one i cherry-pick into | |
| 20:27 | http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]to-another-branch | |
| 20:27 | doesnt seem like you can | |
| 20:28 | but rebase --onto might be the way to do it | |
| 20:28 | i do like stackoverflow | |
| 20:36 | gmcharlt | owen: yes, you can cherry-pick multiple commits in one fell swoop |
| 20:36 | git cherry-pick commit1 commit2 etc | |
| 20:36 | owen | gmcharlt: And it will apply them in sequence? |
| 20:37 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 20:39 | owen | Hm, git didn't like that |
| 20:39 | It lectured me on cherry-pick options | |
| 20:43 | gmcharlt | what version are you using? |
| 20:44 | owen | 1.7.1 |
| 20:46 | gmcharlt | hmm, looks like you have to go to 1.7.2 for cherry-pick to stop lecturing you |
| 20:46 | ah, from the release notes | |
| 20:46 | * 'git cherry-picks' stops lecturing Owen Leonard and can now pick a range of commits | |
| 20:46 | chris | heh |
| 20:48 | cait | lol |
| 20:50 | chris | gmcharlt shouldnt write release notes and I shouldnt write bug status updates :-) |
| 20:50 | * gmcharlt | especially shouldn't write release notes for projects he doesn't send patches to ;) |
| 20:50 | chris | :-) |
| 20:51 | gmcharlt | owen: but seriously, it does look like 1.7.2 is the first version that can handle ranges of commits when cherry-picking |
| 20:52 | chris | i had to use 1.4.1 the other day |
| 20:52 | no stash :( | |
| 20:52 | * gmcharlt | winces |
| 20:56 | cait | chris: I like your updates :) |
| 20:57 | merry christmas! :) | |
| 20:58 | too early? | |
| 20:58 | * cait | goes back to packing |
| 20:58 | chris | hehe |
| 21:01 | Nate left #koha | |
| 21:02 | owen left #koha | |
| 21:09 | eric_b joined #koha | |
| 21:13 | ebegin left #koha | |
| 21:37 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 21:37 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 21:40 | sekjal_a is now known as sekjal | |
| 21:40 | * Brooke | waves at sekjal |
| 21:40 | cait | kia ora |
| 21:40 | * sekjal | waves back |
| 21:40 | Brooke | :) |
| 21:41 | chris | hei Brooke and sekjal |
| 21:41 | Brooke | he? |
| 21:41 | ibot | he is picky |
| 21:42 | sekjal | hey chris! |
| 21:42 | Brooke | hei toki? |
| 21:42 | ;) | |
| 21:42 | chris | http://kupu.maori.nz/ for you Brooke |
| 21:43 | * Brooke | does a little jig. |
| 21:47 | drotsk left #koha | |
| 21:49 | Brooke | ibot druthb? |
| 21:49 | ibot | i heard druthb was a geek. |
| 21:50 | chris | brooke? |
| 21:51 | brooke? | |
| 21:51 | ibot | well, brooke is the author of the wonderful newbie guide, help her finish version 2 |
| 21:51 | Brooke | oh screw that |
| 21:51 | chris | take that as payback for the cockatoo hat |
| 21:51 | Brooke | ibot forget Brooke |
| 21:51 | ibot | Brooke: I forgot brooke |
| 21:52 | chris | ill do worse whne you arent around now |
| 21:52 | Brooke | that is a fetching picture. |
| 21:52 | chris | :) |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | omg i lol'd so much |
| 21:52 | at the cockatoo hat | |
| 21:52 | * wizzyrea | was there, and the picture was funnier |
| 21:52 | Brooke | plus it manages to show off your son. |
| 21:53 | the only better thing would be if Laurel were in there somehow with the alternate boy. | |
| 21:53 | * Brooke | will get around to doing all sorts of Who's Who pages a bit at a time. |
| 21:54 | Brooke | wanted to get the release managers nailed down first |
| 21:54 | even though everything is quite scant | |
| 21:54 | surprisingly we are missing a template for the infobox for people. | |
| 21:54 | chris | i saw you started one |
| 21:55 | and killed it | |
| 21:55 | you seen the whoswho page? | |
| 21:55 | Brooke | me goes to take a gander. |
| 21:55 | chris | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
| 21:55 | Brooke | outstanding |
| 21:55 | * Brooke | was planning to drill down the list after release teams |
| 21:56 | chris | needs updating |
| 21:56 | Brooke | and also folks like Rosalie and Jo. |
| 21:56 | chris | particularly for ruth |
| 21:57 | Brooke | well that's a blocker, so that's done. |
| 21:57 | chris | danke |
| 21:58 | Brooke | bitte |
| 22:01 | cait | ? |
| 22:02 | hearing you 2 talk German makes me fear the worst | |
| 22:03 | chris | koha ueber alles |
| 22:03 | cait | lol |
| 22:04 | * chris | learnt about that poem at school |
| 22:04 | * cait | ponders starting a German course on #koha |
| 22:04 | chris | :) |
| 22:04 | cait | Fröhliche Weihnachten! |
| 22:04 | which poen? | |
| 22:04 | poem | |
| 22:05 | chris | hmm ill have to wikipedia i cant spell it right |
| 22:06 | Das Lied der Deutschen | |
| 22:06 | saorge joined #koha | |
| 22:06 | chris | it was when we were studying propoganda, and how the allies used propoganda in world war 2 |
| 22:06 | * Brooke | did nothing but heckle her poor German professor. |
| 22:07 | cait | http://www.schwaebische.de/leb[…]_galid,10517.html |
| 22:07 | :( | |
| 22:07 | the house broke down | |
| 22:07 | chris | in english class no less |
| 22:07 | saorge_ left #koha | |
| 22:08 | cait | chris: don't know it |
| 22:08 | chris | its the lyrics to the national anthem :) |
| 22:08 | Brooke | oh wow. |
| 22:08 | chris | oh noes ;( |
| 22:08 | did that just happen cait ? | |
| 22:08 | cait | today :( |
| 22:09 | chris | what horrible timing |
| 22:09 | cait | my mother lived in the small house next to the broken down house |
| 22:09 | and she worked in the shoe shop... in the big house | |
| 22:09 | * Brooke | hugs cait. |
| 22:09 | cait | it's in the middle of the old city - lots of shops. I was there yesterday |
| 22:09 | long before I existed | |
| 22:09 | but my mother told me everytime she visited me here | |
| 22:10 | chris | such a shame, hopefully no one was hurt? |
| 22:10 | cait | chris: ok, I know the song - but only the third part |
| 22:10 | 3 people slightly hurt | |
| 22:11 | and older couple living in the house I think | |
| 22:11 | they had to get the woman through the window | |
| 22:11 | and one fireman hit by something | |
| 22:11 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 22:12 | chris | hi druthb |
| 22:12 | druthb | Hi, chris! :) |
| 22:12 | cait | hi druthb |
| 22:12 | * druthb | waves to cait |
| 22:12 | cait | picture 52 is hard |
| 22:12 | druthb: the house broke down :( | |
| 22:12 | waebische.de/leben/vermischtes/fotoreportagen_galid,10517.html | |
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | cait :( |
| 22:13 | is that near where you live? | |
| 22:14 | (obviously in the same city) | |
| 22:14 | cait | yeah, the same city, right in the centre |
| 22:14 | I live a bit out of town | |
| 22:15 | but I have been there yesterday | |
| 22:15 | when I was shopping for christmas presents, it's near a central place and the main station, shopping mile | |
| 22:18 | * druthb | is muddling around with the Empathy IM client in Ubuntu. |
| 22:19 | cait | druthb: I gave up on empathy, back on pidgin |
| 22:19 | * Brooke | uses adium |
| 22:19 | Brooke | but it could secretly be naughty. |
| 22:20 | druthb | The conceptual model of a multi-protocol IM client is basically sound, but my brain just has trouble with it for some reason. I used Adium when I had a Mac. Since I could not see that anyone's here until they spoke, imma thinking that Empathy gets a -- |
| 22:21 | * druthb | waves to Brooke, now that she knows she's not waving at thin air. |
| 22:21 | * Brooke | only wishes she were thin air in the stead of hot air. |
| 22:21 | * druthb | giggles |
| 22:26 | drotsk joined #koha | |
| 22:26 | chris | ok off to physio |
| 22:26 | bbiab | |
| 22:26 | Brooke | see ya |
| 22:27 | 0/ drotsk | |
| 22:27 | * druthb | waves to drotsk |
| 22:27 | drotsk | hiya |
| 22:27 | wizzyrea | l8r chris |
| 22:27 | druthb | All right...off to reboot, to install updates. back dreckly, probably from pidgin. Empathy sucks rocks. |
| 22:27 | druthb left #koha | |
| 22:34 | drotsk left #koha | |
| 22:41 | wizzyrea | can we keep chris_n as release maintainer forever :P |
| 22:42 | cait | can we keep chris too? |
| 22:42 | Brooke | is he susceptible to bribery? |
| 22:42 | >.> | |
| 22:42 | <.< | |
| 22:42 | wizzyrea | (i love his release notes) |
| 22:43 | cait | :) |
| 22:44 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 22:45 | Brooke | o/ |
| 22:45 | druthb | o/ |
| 22:45 | cait | wb |
| 22:45 | druthb | oh, that's *so* much better! |
| 22:45 | cait | hehe |
| 22:50 | I didn't like the way empathy displays the messages | |
| 22:50 | there is no way to put the date/time at the beginnign of the line | |
| 22:51 | druthb | I also couldn't see a user list, and couldn't click a name to fling open a private window. Very annoying! |
| 22:52 | cait | but now you are back |
| 22:58 | druthb | yes! |
| 23:01 | chris | back |
| 23:02 | Brooke | welcome back |
| 23:02 | haere mae? | |
| 23:03 | chris | mai |
| 23:03 | Brooke | ah |
| 23:03 | my Latin bad. | |
| 23:05 | chris | :) |
| 23:07 | druthb left #koha | |
| 23:08 | davi left #koha | |
| 23:12 | cait | and now she is gone again |
| 23:13 | Brooke | such is life. |
| 23:13 | * Brooke | suspects minion issues and general family time might be the cause of the bug. |
| 23:18 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 23:18 | * Brooke | waves |
| 23:18 | * cait | waves |
| 23:18 | * druthb | reaches for the Velcro |
| 23:18 | attempted to add a Skype account in Pidgin, but Skype was not installed. Pidgin did not like that very much. | |
| 23:19 | Brooke | sounds like summat needs to fail gracefully. |
| 23:19 | sekjal | a lovely weekend to you all! |
| 23:19 | chris | cya sekjal |
| 23:19 | sekjal | cheers, chris! |
| 23:19 | Brooke | cheers |
| 23:19 | sekjal left #koha | |
| 23:24 | druthb | ok...skype is in, and running fine.. now...let's try this again. |
| 23:26 | whew. I seem to still be here. | |
| 23:26 | * Brooke | pokes ruth. |
| 23:26 | Brooke | a yep. |
| 23:26 | * druthb | pokes Brooke back. |
| 23:31 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for bug 5451, can add tags with userlogin turned off <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1ad14fb89db512677> |
| 23:37 | druthb left #koha | |
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| 23:42 | druthb | All right...the Velcro isn't work. Duct tape it is. |
| 23:43 | hudsonbot | Starting build 245 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) |
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| 23:48 | jcamins_a | sekjal++ # for upgrading the ANS's catalog on Christmas Eve eve |
| 23:49 | Brooke | not yet it's not. To a kiwi, yes. |
| 23:49 | jcamins_a | Brooke: I'm pretty sure Christmas Eve is tomorrow. |
| 23:49 | I thought... | |
| 23:50 | druthb | yep. This is Christmas Eve Eve. :) |
| 23:50 | * Brooke | thought you lost a day. |
| 23:50 | jcamins_a | Heavens forfend! |
| 23:50 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 23:56 | jcamins | Does anyone know what IRC client chris uses on his phone? I was just asked for a recommendation for a mobile IRC client. |
| 23:56 | chris | andchat |
| 23:56 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 23:56 | Brooke | The Chris is ever vigilant. |
| 23:57 | jcamins | All hail Chris the ever-vigilant! |
| 23:58 | druthb | :) |
| 23:58 | hudsonbot | Starting build 246 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) |
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