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01:08 | brendan_l | @wunder 93117 |
01:08 | munin | brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.9�C (5:06 PM PST on December 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Rising). |
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01:12 | ybeddyj | hey |
01:12 | Hello | |
01:12 | are you guys sleeping? | |
01:13 | wasabi | yes, i am sleeping |
01:13 | ybeddyj | lol |
01:14 | well i live in jamaica and i noticed that you guys have a list of install bases and jamaica isnt on it | |
01:14 | i want to change that asap | |
01:14 | robin | ybeddyj: yay! :) |
01:15 | wasabi: it's past 2 in the afternoon, time to stop sleeping. | |
01:15 | ybeddyj | well truth is i did a little bit already |
01:16 | but i realize that the copy i installed from koha.org git wasnt the community so i'm backing away from it getting a "proper" copy | |
01:17 | robin | yeah, www.koha-community.org is where you want to start |
01:18 | ybeddyj | unfortunately it wasnt until i was reading some blog somewhere that i came upon the undesired but unavoidable switch |
01:19 | so now i'm installing from your git and just about configuring | |
01:19 | i also want to send some donations to the way of the community as soon as a get paid for this job | |
01:20 | chris | fixing bugs is the best way to do that |
01:20 | ybeddyj | well that too i want to address |
01:21 | chris | we have no real way to collect/use monetary donations |
01:21 | so much prefer time/documentation/code | |
01:23 | ybeddyj | i currently control the webhost that the package will be installed on also it uses namedvirtualhost and i wanted to suggest a modification/addition to the configuration section of the installation |
01:23 | chris | most people run named hosts |
01:24 | the default is ports for those who dont have access/skills to run dns | |
01:25 | usually the people who can set up namedhosts can edit the conf file :-) but it wouldnt hurt to have it option | |
01:25 | ybeddyj | i was thinking of adding a block that one could optionally decide to configure that will allow us to set things like the servername ports etc |
01:25 | chris | when it was first written that was the default |
01:25 | it changed to ports | |
01:25 | round 2003 | |
01:25 | ybeddyj | ok i see |
01:26 | chris | having an option wouldnt hurt though |
01:27 | ybeddyj | also i would like if the config section sets the directory permissions in the koha-httpd.conf file |
01:28 | personally i put this at the top before the first virtual host section "<Directory /usr/share/koha> AllowOverride None Order Deny,Allow Deny from all </Directory>" | |
01:30 | then for each virtualhost section i added the following " <Directory /usr/share/koha/opac> Options FollowSymLinks AllowOverride All Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory>" | |
01:31 | i would love if this could be added to the conf file when standard installation is selected | |
01:32 | i dont know anything about perl but i'm going to look to find where to add that and try to submit code as is necessary | |
01:32 | wasabi | http://koha-community.org/get-[…]d/for-developers/ |
01:33 | ybeddyj | would that be ok chris? |
01:33 | checking link wasabi | |
01:33 | chris | yup |
01:34 | wasabi | http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ |
01:34 | oops , http://bugs.koha-community.org | |
01:41 | ybeddyj | by the way i'm new to this whole thingy, i wondered if there is a way to do an upgrade versus an install |
01:42 | wasabi | start with the install first |
01:43 | the use git to update your code-base | |
01:44 | then a DB upgrade will happen, on the next admin login | |
01:44 | thats the best way to upgrade | |
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01:45 | chris | or use the packages |
01:45 | http://debian.koha-community.org/ | |
01:50 | ybeddyj | ok great, so if i get it correctly after already installed. if i do the git clone part then "git checkout -b myinstall origin" i should then proceed to the admin login page? |
01:52 | eter | oh by the way the readme needs this tiny adjustment "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/pub/scm/koha.git kohaclone" |
01:53 | chris | which readme? |
01:53 | we have too many of them im afraid ;) | |
01:54 | ybeddyj: usually you do the git clone first, then install | |
01:54 | eter | im ure of the ubuntu one i think the pub/scm part needs to go |
01:54 | chris | yep, but which ubuntu one :) |
01:55 | eter | install.ubuntu |
01:55 | chris | eter: did you install from git or tarball? |
01:56 | if you have git, you could do a patch for that right now | |
01:56 | eter | git |
01:56 | ybeddyj | chris: yes i'm refering to after an already initial running system...my bad no pointing that out |
01:57 | chris | ybeddyj: well you should never have to do another clone ... after your initial one ;) |
01:57 | have you read the wiki page about working with git? | |
01:58 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git | |
01:58 | specifically | |
01:58 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Git#See_changes_.27origin.27_Git_repo_from_your_branch | |
01:58 | ybeddyj | still trying to cram all the details...newbie stresses lol |
01:58 | chris | eter: you want me to walk you through making a patch and submitting it? :) |
01:59 | eter | yes |
01:59 | chris | ok |
01:59 | have you used git before at all? | |
02:00 | if you havent on that machine you probably need to do thsi first | |
02:00 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]l_some_parameters | |
02:00 | eter | actually newbie/ybeddyj using the xchat instead of the mbit thingy |
02:01 | but also wanting to kep track of the convo | |
02:01 | chris | once you have set up those parameters, let me know |
02:01 | eter | i've used it for installing only koha |
02:07 | finish setting parameters should i go on to the repo clone? | |
02:07 | chilts, | |
02:07 | chris, | |
02:08 | chris | only if you havent cloned it already |
02:08 | if you have | |
02:08 | eter | its cloned on the server but i'm now settingup on my latop |
02:08 | chris | in that case, yep |
02:16 | eter | git cloned |
02:20 | chris | right now we are ready to edit that file |
02:21 | probably you will want to create a branch to work in too | |
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02:22 | eter | ok tell me about it ...going on to that section now |
02:22 | chris | git checkout -b documentation_fixes |
02:22 | or some name that makes sense to you | |
02:23 | eter | should i do this before " git checkout -b mywork origin"? |
02:23 | chris | instead of |
02:23 | unless you want to call your branch mywork | |
02:23 | eter | i had started doing it form the wiki |
02:24 | chris | you can change mywork to whatever you want |
02:24 | its just a suggestion | |
02:24 | i usually call my branches something that means something | |
02:24 | eter | ok well i'll do over and call it ybeddyj |
02:24 | i see | |
02:24 | chris | i wouldnt do that either |
02:25 | you never want to do all your changes in one branch, you want a branch per topic | |
02:25 | eter | ok so many branches for area/type of fix is the way then |
02:26 | ok i did the docfix branch | |
02:27 | chris | right you can edit the file now, and make your change, and save it |
02:27 | eter | ok |
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02:33 | chris | once that is done |
02:33 | git commit filename | |
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02:34 | eter | ok i did both ubuntu files commit in a sec |
02:34 | chris | if you want to commit them both, then list both filenames |
02:35 | eter | oops never did the bug submission to get the bug id going to do that now |
02:38 | do i need to create a separate account for bugzilla or it will work with the one i just crreated for koha-community | |
02:41 | chris | separate |
02:49 | eter | did commit |
02:49 | chris | excellent |
02:49 | git format-patch origin | |
02:50 | eter | did |
02:50 | chris | cool |
02:50 | if you want you can have a look at that file, check it looks ok | |
02:50 | the next step is to send it to the patches mailing list | |
02:50 | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]info/koha-patches | |
02:51 | robin | ibot: what now is <reply>Now is the time for all good threads to block for I/O. |
02:51 | ibot | robin: no idea |
02:51 | robin | ibot: what now is <reply>Now \is the time for all good threads to block for I/O. |
02:51 | ibot | robin: i don't know |
02:51 | robin | silly ibot |
02:51 | chris | you'll want to sign up here, so it doesnt hold your mail for moderation |
02:51 | then | |
02:51 | git send-email name-of-your.patch | |
02:51 | eter | ok |
02:52 | chris | (if it complains you dont have send-email .. apt-get install git-email) |
02:53 | eter | sure did |
02:53 | chris | and once you have done that, you're done :-) |
02:54 | if you want bonus points, you can attach the patch to the bug also | |
02:57 | eter | ok |
03:02 | now on to find where to modify the conf file....(scripts,vars) | |
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03:03 | Brooke | kia ora |
03:04 | * chris | wanders off to start the weekened |
03:04 | * Brooke | wishes Chris well |
03:10 | gasps. | |
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03:13 | * druthb | waves to Brooke. |
03:13 | * Brooke | waves back. |
03:15 | brendan_l | heya druthb and Brooke |
03:15 | druthb | :) |
03:15 | * Brooke | smiles at Brendan |
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03:27 | * chris_n | slams the door on a bunch of bugs |
03:27 | * druthb | stumbles out to bed. |
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03:27 | Brooke | ow |
03:27 | we have feelings too, Chris. | |
03:30 | chris_n | the gekos on guam were always shying into the door-jamb and getting smashed by accident |
03:30 | * chris_n | has no regrets about stomping the 6 inch roaches, however |
03:41 | eter | need simple dummy perl scripting guide |
03:42 | Brooke | http://www.dummies.com/store/p[…]d-0764537504.html |
03:42 | eww that's oldish now | |
03:42 | lemme check mah bookmarks. | |
03:43 | eter | ok |
03:43 | Brooke | http://learn.perl.org/tutorials/ |
03:44 | http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/[…]al_for_beginners/ | |
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03:55 | Brooke | it is our civic duty to spam Will Manley's blog in case he's actually plopping down the 5k. |
03:55 | http://willmanley.com/2010/12/[…]rn/#comment-21900 | |
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04:30 | eter | how about themes for koha? |
04:31 | Brooke | hang on a tick. |
04:35 | watch this before ye muck about too much | |
04:35 | http://www.archive.org/details[…]onWithOwenLeonard | |
04:48 | am I satisfying your queries properly, or am I still a dastardly Reference Librarian? | |
04:56 | eter | lol |
04:57 | than you much | |
04:57 | Brooke | :) |
04:57 | my pleasure. | |
04:57 | eter | atter of fact you could be partner in crime |
04:57 | lol | |
04:57 | Brooke | you know not of what you wish. |
04:59 | eter | learnig perl and dnlding the movie as i type |
05:33 | sleepy now catch you in about 8hrs | |
05:33 | Brooke | cheers |
05:35 | eter | ok |
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05:50 | * Brooke_a | waves to oak |
05:51 | * Oak | hugs Brooke_a |
05:51 | waves to the rest of channel | |
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06:18 | cait | morning #koha |
06:19 | Brooke_a | morning hon |
06:19 | Brooke_a is now known as Brooke | |
06:19 | cait | hi Brooke - still here? |
06:19 | Brooke | I've been in and out. |
06:21 | cait | but late for you? |
06:21 | Brooke | bah, late is in the eye of the beholder ;) |
06:24 | cait | :) |
06:28 | Brooke | k *now* I'm finally sleepy a lil |
06:28 | cheers! | |
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06:44 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
06:44 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.6�C (7:45 AM CET on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.32 in 992.8 hPa (Falling). |
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07:52 | magnus | kia ora, #koha |
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08:07 | paul_p | hello world. morning time in Europe ! |
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08:10 | ivanc | hi #koha |
08:18 | magnus | bonjour ivanc, paul_p and hdl |
08:29 | ivanc | hiya magnus |
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08:35 | magnus | hiya jransom |
08:35 | kia ora! | |
08:35 | jransom | kia ora :) |
08:36 | magnus | almost your xmas holiday? |
08:44 | jransom | last day today |
08:46 | how about you? | |
08:47 | magnus | hehe, one week (and weekend) to go... |
08:47 | lucky you! | |
08:48 | jransom | kind of - had a day from hell today |
08:48 | and spent 2 days away with my daughter at the hospital | |
08:48 | so i'm feeling rushed and unfinished | |
08:49 | magnus | ouch, sounds like you deserve some time off from work! |
08:49 | here's hoping your daughter gets well soon! | |
08:51 | jransom | oh she is heaps better |
08:51 | 24 hours on an iv for fluids, [pain killers and anti-biotics. | |
08:51 | shes pretty near human again | |
08:55 | paul_p | hi jransom. almost holida for me too ;-) |
08:55 | we go to my family in law ... that is under 10-20 snow today. boys very excited ;-) | |
08:57 | magnus | jransom: good to hear there is progress in the right direction! |
08:57 | paul_p: that's alot of snow! ;-) | |
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09:00 | jransom | snow - that would be lovely. |
09:00 | we are really hot and muggy here | |
09:01 | how are you paul? | |
09:01 | magnus | @wunder, wellington, nz |
09:01 | munin | magnus: Error: "wunder," is not a valid command. |
09:01 | magnus | @weather wellington, nz |
09:01 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
09:01 | magnus | @weather levin, nz |
09:01 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in LEVIN, Levin, New Zealand is 19.3�C (10:04 PM NZDT on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady). |
09:02 | magnus | that's summery! |
09:02 | @wunder bodo, norway | |
09:02 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (9:50 AM CET on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
09:02 | jransom | really hot and humid |
09:03 | raining so hard leaving Levin couldn't see the raod - but notraining at the beach | |
09:03 | magnus | nice! |
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09:15 | paul_p | jransom: i'm fine. today, it' my wedding birthday : 16 years married ! |
09:16 | * paul_p | can't believe it... time passes so quickly ! |
09:16 | jransom | oh congratulations :) |
09:16 | paul_p | to celebrate that, I'll fix some bugs :D |
09:16 | and go to the restaurant with my wife while boys are at school... | |
09:16 | jransom | or you could take the day off and do something lovely with your wife |
09:16 | snap | |
09:20 | magnus | congrats, paul_p! |
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09:37 | Amit | Hdl around? |
09:37 | hdl | hi Amit |
09:37 | how are you ? | |
09:37 | savitra | Hi Henri.. |
09:38 | good time to talk about acq work? | |
09:38 | Amit | Hi hdl |
09:38 | hdl | Hi savitra. |
09:38 | Yes it could be good time. | |
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09:39 | savitra | great..so I suppose you have seen the RFCs we had posted a while back.. |
09:39 | jransom | Hi hdl |
09:39 | hdl | hi jransom |
09:39 | savitra: yes. | |
09:39 | Very interesting. | |
09:40 | (just a moment so that I can grab the links) | |
09:40 | savitra | sure.. |
09:41 | so those processes are common here in India..all academic libraries follow them.. | |
09:41 | the RFCs are here: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]DI-td3049357.html | |
09:43 | hdl | found that. |
09:43 | thanks | |
09:43 | savitra | sure.. |
09:44 | hdl | your Payment process RFC covers much of what we are to do. |
09:45 | I think that we should try and organize and maybe work in pair. | |
09:45 | Our work on that will begin in January. | |
09:45 | see http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ce_management_RFC | |
09:45 | savitra | I see..we expect to start in January as well.. |
09:45 | hdl | It kind of looks quite the same. |
09:45 | savitra | ok..let me take a look at that RFC.. |
09:46 | hdl | We are writing the use cases and making mockups so that it would be clear as of what we engage to do. |
09:48 | savitra | ok..I am looking at it..but it appears more about additional fees.. |
09:48 | hdl | If you see no objection to that, i think that we could share branches on git.koha-community.org and arrange weekly meetings. |
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09:48 | savitra | our RFC is more about capturing information about payments that is made to the book seller..(cheque no. date, notes..).. |
09:49 | hdl | savitra: I overlooked the RFC definition... |
09:50 | What StEtienne university ask is an Invoice management. | |
09:50 | (So as to get what has been paid. | |
09:50 | ) | |
09:51 | savitra | ah ok. all right that sounds the same.. |
09:51 | hdl | (which looks quite close to what you are to do) |
09:51 | savitra | yes it does.. |
09:51 | hdl | So I think that we have much to gain to share work and views.. |
09:51 | savitra | so no problems..we can share branches.. |
09:51 | yes..sure.. | |
09:52 | hdl | Would you be ok to have regular meetings around that... ? |
09:52 | savitra | yes..weekly meetings may be a bit tough..all weeks.. |
09:52 | so we can have weekly meetings..but I may have to cancel sometimes.. | |
09:52 | hdl | bi-weekly then ? |
09:53 | savitra | bi-weekly sounds better, yes.. |
09:53 | hdl | Maybe we could sign off one an other... And add public remotes form oen another... |
09:54 | We could announce that on koha-devel, share work and ask for feed back from the community. | |
09:54 | savitra | sure..sounds good.. |
09:54 | how many people will work on this from your side? | |
09:55 | hdl | 1,5 person... for 3 months. |
09:55 | development is due for March. | |
09:55 | or April | |
09:56 | But there are many parts to that. | |
09:56 | Would you work on a Template::Toolkit base ? or HTML::Template ? | |
09:57 | savitra | hmm..I did not see this project to be that big.. |
09:57 | hdl | how many persons would be working on that from your side ? |
09:58 | and what is your schedule ? | |
09:58 | savitra | I was thinking more like 1.5 person-month total for this.. |
09:59 | the schedule is not fixed yet..there has been some delay from the client side.. | |
09:59 | so I think we will be ok with your March/ | |
09:59 | April deadlines.. | |
10:00 | hdl | (actually, the work also is on the orders and basket searches... So is a little be more global than just adding Payment) |
10:01 | savitra | ok.. |
10:02 | I would like to see your documentation on this.. | |
10:02 | hdl | I will send you that next week. |
10:02 | savitra | and then we can work out scope of work for each side? |
10:02 | hdl | sounds good. |
10:04 | would you be able to share documentation too ? | |
10:04 | savitra | yes..sure..we have some mockups already.. |
10:04 | hdl | very nice. |
10:05 | savitra | well, those are really screenshots from another LMS that is commonly used here.. |
10:05 | hdl | hehe... |
10:05 | savitra | :> |
10:05 | but I think useful to understand what is required..not necessarily how it work be designed on Koha.. | |
10:06 | we will send additional documentation as well. | |
10:06 | * hdl | agrees |
10:06 | savitra | on the template.. |
10:06 | I guess we use html:template.. | |
10:07 | hdl | I was thinking that since Template::Toolkit was to be used in 3.4 maybe any new additional page should try and use that. |
10:09 | savitra | hmm..ok, not a problem.. |
10:09 | hdl | But maybe it would be an over load in the process. |
10:10 | feel free to comment | |
10:11 | savitra | overloading sounds ok to me..we will give it a try.. |
10:11 | I think you guys have much more experience with Koha..so we will probably defer to you on such things.. | |
10:12 | hdl | So next action is : sending you our documentation. waiting for yours. commenting on that via email. |
10:12 | Posting all that on the wiki. | |
10:13 | And agree on how we share work. | |
10:14 | savitra | yes..we can target to do that by end of year I think.. |
10:15 | I will send over our documentation by end of next week. | |
10:16 | hdl | sounds good... |
10:16 | same for us. | |
10:16 | savitra | all right.. |
10:16 | hdl | Then a meeting at the beginning of the year |
10:16 | savitra | sure.. |
10:32 | hdl | savitra: Seeing all your RFCs, it would be quite the same scope that what we should work on. |
10:33 | savitra: so really it could be very interesting. | |
10:34 | savitra: a quite important change that would occur also for us would be that there would be a list of persons allowed to USE (spend or engage) on budgets. | |
10:34 | anyway, we shal send you all the things we will work on... | |
10:34 | We really would enjoy working with you. | |
10:57 | magnus | coopetition++ ;-) |
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11:09 | paul_p | magnus: in this case there is no business competition, just developers cooperation. But i agree it's++ |
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11:13 | Brooke | Tēnā koutou |
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11:38 | * Brooke | waves at Druthb |
11:38 | * druthb | blinks, and waves back at Brooke. |
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11:55 | * Brooke | waves at tcohen |
11:55 | tcohen | hi Brooke |
11:56 | druthb | hi, tcohen. :) |
11:56 | tcohen | you'd be happy my flu want harm you on the distance |
11:56 | :-D | |
11:56 | Brooke | pfft |
11:57 | * druthb | gets tcohen a mug of hot chicken soup. |
11:58 | tcohen | yeees |
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11:58 | kf | hi #koha |
11:58 | tcohen | here at office i only have coffee, perhaps some green tea |
11:58 | * Brooke | waves at kf |
11:58 | kf | hi Brooke - still here? |
11:58 | :) | |
11:59 | Brooke | I slept enough :) |
11:59 | kf | hm. ok, ruth is here too, shoudl be a normal time for you then |
11:59 | Brooke | hehehe |
11:59 | * Brooke | highfives druthb |
11:59 | druthb | :D |
12:14 | tcohen | hdl: ++Controller |
12:14 | hdl | tcohen: This is what I think too... |
12:15 | But would like more feedback... | |
12:15 | Pls answer onlist and share ideas... | |
12:15 | Maybe we could have some kind of "abstraction" for that. | |
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12:18 | * hdl | highfives Brooke |
12:18 | * Brooke | smiles at hdl |
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12:36 | HarryH | We get the following error after upgrading from 3.0 to 3.2 |
12:36 | Bad arg length for Socket::pack_sockaddr_in, length is 0, should be 4 at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/Socket.pm line 214. | |
12:36 | anyone know whats wrong? | |
12:43 | kf | sorry HarryH- no idea. Perhaps try again a bit later if you don't get an answer now - people here change according to the time zones. |
12:43 | * Brooke | pokes druthb. |
12:43 | Brooke | curious, finger must have slipped. |
12:44 | * druthb | pokes Brooke back. |
12:46 | druthb | HarryH: What were you doing just before that error? |
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12:48 | druthb | That error is pretty deep in the network layer, but perlmoks (http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=642313 ) suggests that it's looking for an IP address, and not getting one. |
12:49 | Just guessin', but somewhere in settings is looking for an internet address, and not finding one. a Z39.50 target with no address in the box might do that, if it wasn't caught sooner than that. | |
12:51 | HarryH | druthb: after upgrading I have started the admin web. This ended with this error message |
12:52 | druthb | Hrm. Keep checkin' with folks. It's early yet; usually in a couple or three hours, most of the US folks are on, and there might be someone with a better idea then. |
12:52 | kf | magnus++ |
12:52 | magnus | um, thanks? ;-) |
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12:55 | HarryH | druthb: thanks |
12:55 | druthb | HarryH: sure thing...sorry I can't be more help with that! |
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13:00 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
13:00 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.4�C (2:00 PM CET on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996.2 hPa (Steady). |
13:01 | druthb | @wunder 20852 |
13:01 | munin | druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is -4.7�C (8:00 AM EST on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady). |
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13:12 | magnus | @wunder bodo norway |
13:12 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (1:50 PM CET on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising). |
13:20 | owen joined #koha | |
13:20 | * Brooke | waves at own |
13:21 | owen | Hi #koha |
13:22 | druthb | hi, owen! :) |
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13:26 | magnus | hi wasabi |
13:30 | kf | hi wasabi :) |
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14:16 | owen | I'm trying to sign off on a patch, but I see a minor change I think should be made |
14:17 | Can I make the change and sign off at the same time? What is the proper procedure? | |
14:18 | gmcharlt | owen: six of one, half dozen of the other |
14:18 | for a minor typo fix, making the changing and signing off is OK | |
14:19 | but some contributors may prefer that you not do that so that they can merge back with the public repo more easily | |
14:19 | depends on how they handle their patches - if you were signing off one of mine, I wouldn't mind | |
14:24 | owen | Thanks gmcharlt |
14:27 | * druthb | ponders how to reuse/repurpose the little crate that the clementines came in. |
14:27 | Brooke | puppet stage, obviously. |
14:27 | give it to a children's Librarian | |
14:30 | druthb | It's not-quite letter sized, or it'd make a nifty inbox. |
14:31 | The bottom of it is not very sturdy...could use it to capture doodads in my workshop that end up scattered around. | |
14:32 | owen | Send it back in time 15 years to be a CD box? |
14:33 | druthb | The dimensions are kinda questionable for that. |
14:33 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
14:33 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
14:34 | Brooke | Good Morning, Mr. Camins. |
14:34 | druthb | hm. It's about the right width...maybe it'd fit on a shelf in the bedroom. I could re-decorate it, and use it to capture all the hair doo-dads we girls can accumulate. |
14:34 | * druthb | waves at jcamins. |
14:35 | owen | My house has half a dozen of those boxes and doo-dads are still everywhere |
14:35 | * Brooke | drools at the thought of the container store. |
14:35 | * druthb | lubs the container store. |
14:35 | Brooke | If number of boxen = n then doodads = n + 12 |
14:36 | jcamins | Brooke: that doesn't sound quite right. |
14:37 | I think you meant doodads = boxen * 12 | |
14:37 | * owen | is horrified at the disaster that is Bug 5513 |
14:37 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5513 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, staff client display all screwy if you don't have all permissions |
14:37 | Brooke | nope, you have too many doodads. |
14:37 | druthb | The formula at my house used to be doodads= boxen ^ 4, but I've weeded it down to a little better function. |
14:38 | Brooke | Ah! |
14:38 | * Brooke | trembles in fear at the sight of bug 5513 |
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14:39 | druthb | oh, my... |
14:39 | * owen | is relieved to find it is the result of a recent commit, not a long-standing undiscovered issue |
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14:46 | * jcamins | might be a geek... he laughed at today's xkcd. |
14:46 | * druthb | is a geek; she laughed at it. |
14:46 | Brooke | >.> |
14:47 | * Brooke | thinks it's clearly not a genetic tree. |
14:52 | wizzyrea | jcamins: lol |
14:52 | * wizzyrea | laughed too |
14:53 | * druthb | is astonished by the cleverness that is Google Labs' Body Browser. (Requires newest Chrome beta) |
14:55 | wizzyrea | i loved this show when I was a kid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLhQfcZ-BWk |
14:55 | it's slow, and it makes no sense, but it's germane, I swear | |
14:56 | Brooke | heresy! They cut the intro! |
14:56 | jcamins | I loved mathnet! |
14:57 | wizzyrea | well, to be fair, it's part 2 |
15:01 | owen | Hi wizzyrea |
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15:03 | * Brooke | waves to sophie |
15:13 | jcamins | ORM? |
15:14 | I'm thinking that's probably not "Operations Research Management" in this context. | |
15:16 | gmcharlt | object-relational manager |
15:17 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt is it safe to point the website to koha-latest.tar.gz, the symlink will get updated as new versions come out? |
15:17 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: yes |
15:19 | wizzyrea | cool |
15:20 | hdl | hi gmcharlt |
15:21 | gmcharlt | hi hdl |
15:23 | wizzyrea | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ I didn't see a reason to list anything other than current stable. |
15:24 | and link to the list of all releases | |
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15:24 | owen | Hi nengard |
15:24 | * Brooke | waves at nengard |
15:24 | nengard | hiya all |
15:24 | owen | nengard++ # for heroic bug-wrangling |
15:24 | nengard | hehe |
15:25 | i was bad - it's been 3 months since I read anything in my bugs folder - so it wouldn't have been so heroic if I had just done my job :) | |
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15:26 | * Brooke | slaps Nate on the back. |
15:26 | Nate | Heya Brooke! |
15:28 | jcamins | Greetings, Nate and nengard |
15:28 | Nate | why hello jcamins! |
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15:29 | Nate | and hello to you nengard! |
15:29 | and everyone else out there :) | |
15:29 | * Brooke | waves to drotsk |
15:29 | drotsk | o/ |
15:29 | when's the big day Curulla? | |
15:30 | nengard | Hiya Nate and all |
15:31 | Nate | the big day is 9/10/11 |
15:31 | seems a bit close... | |
15:31 | drotsk | awesome, it will be here before you know it |
15:31 | Nate | that's what terrifies me :) |
15:32 | nengard | run away and elope - i so did not need the wedding day |
15:32 | * Brooke | got married on the res and has never once regretted it. |
15:33 | jcamins | Nate: you're not far from NYC. The Manhattan marriage bureau is very classy. :) |
15:33 | Nate | yeah but I would need to chloroform Libby and have her wake up getting married to sell that one |
15:34 | ooooh I can say, "honey lets get married in Manhattan" | |
15:34 | jcamins | And you can go for Chinese food after! |
15:34 | Nate | no the bride to be is way to far into teh planning stages to stop that train now |
15:34 | * Brooke | shivers. |
15:35 | * drotsk | asks, does this handkerchief smell like chloroform to you? |
15:35 | jcamins | (actually, we went to a really nice Italian restaurant in Astoria) |
15:35 | * Brooke | laughs at drotsk |
15:35 | paul_p | hi Nate ! |
15:35 | Brooke | bonjour paul. |
15:35 | paul_p | congrats for 9/10/11 !!! |
15:35 | Nate | Hiya paul_p |
15:36 | paul_p | hi Brooke nengard and al) |
15:36 | Nate | how's the weather across the pond? |
15:36 | nengard | @wunder 19030 |
15:36 | munin | nengard: The current temperature in CWOP # AR939, Penndel, Pennsylvania is -1.8�C (10:38 AM EST on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady). |
15:36 | paul_p | Nate: did you read that it's my wedding birthday today ? 16 years. You'll be almost 17 behind me :D |
15:36 | nengard | freezing just a few states south of you :) |
15:36 | paul_p | young boy ;-) |
15:36 | nengard | congrats paul_p!! |
15:36 | Nate | Congratulations!!! |
15:36 | Brooke | happy Anniversary paul. |
15:37 | now get the hell off of IRC before she kills ye. | |
15:37 | paul_p | I wen to the restaurant for the lunch, while kids are at school ;-) |
15:37 | Brooke | not a jury in France would convict. |
15:37 | Nate | @wunder 06516 |
15:37 | munin | Nate: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is -2.1�C (10:39 AM EST on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising). |
15:37 | paul_p | 4:40 PM Brooke, still 1 hour or 2 are OK ;-) |
15:38 | Brooke | Okay, but you don't *have* to get home early to surprise her. ;) |
15:41 | jcamins | excavations at ancient nabratein meyers |
15:41 | Wrong window. | |
15:41 | Sorry about that. | |
15:42 | owen | Wow, I was just thinking about excavations at ancient nabratein meyers |
15:42 | paul_p | Brooke: very dangerous: imagine I found her with another man :D :D [well, no danger in fact, she will be with 4 other men ... our 4 sons :D ] |
15:43 | kf | happy anniversary paul_p |
15:43 | Brooke | S'il vous plaît |
15:43 | kf | ok, starting weekend now :) - bye all! |
15:44 | Brooke | see you Cait. |
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15:46 | jcamins | paul_p: four sons? |
15:50 | paul_p | jcamins: yep, we've 4 boys : 15, 10, 6, 3.5 years |
15:50 | * jcamins | is the oldest of four boys |
15:51 | jcamins | paul_p: about the same distribution between me and my brothers. |
15:52 | paul_p | Nate: about being terrified, there are 2 options : either you'll be terrified BEFORE [hey, i'll get married, am I mad or ?], or AFTER [hey, i'm married ! and it's forever...]. Personnally, it has been before, and it's much better I think ;-) |
15:52 | jcamins: really, you're 15 ? :D | |
15:53 | jcamins | Same distribution, not same ages. |
15:53 | Brooke | the secret is not to promise forever ;) |
15:57 | paul_p | jcamins: I was joking. |
15:57 | jcamins | paul_p: I know. I'd be quite a precocious 15yo, wouldn't I? |
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16:09 | Oak | \o |
16:09 | Brooke | o/ |
16:10 | Oak | what's up Brooke |
16:10 | Brooke | not much, you? |
16:10 | Oak | not much |
16:11 | will watch 'The Town' tonight ... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0840361/ | |
16:15 | druthb | must......resist..... http://developers.slashdot.org[…]of-COBOL?from=rss |
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16:17 | Brooke | Janet Napolitano was a FORTRAN programmer. |
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16:29 | ronald | hi, anybody can help me? |
16:29 | owen | Ask away ronald |
16:29 | ronald | i have a problem whit de renewalls |
16:30 | well...i do a book loan | |
16:31 | and this generated a return date | |
16:31 | but i try renewall | |
16:32 | but this not generated a return date | |
16:32 | why? | |
16:32 | owen | ronald: After you renew a book it no longer has a due date? |
16:33 | ronald | yes |
16:33 | owen | What version are you using? |
16:33 | Brooke | hmm wonder if that only happens if you try and renew on the day you checked it out. |
16:33 | * magnus | wishes everyone a good weekend |
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16:33 | ronald | 3.00.02.012 |
16:35 | yes broke | |
16:35 | same day | |
16:35 | i not try in other days | |
16:35 | * wizzyrea | can check that |
16:35 | ronald | ok |
16:36 | wizzyrea | though I'm probably a touch further down the line re: patches than you are |
16:39 | lol the book I randomly picked has stupid rules and I have to fix it before I can test, sorry for the delay | |
16:40 | Brooke | karma :) You fix summat for someone else, you find your own problem that would have blissfully gone undetected. |
16:40 | ibot | :) you fix summat for someone else, you find your own problem that would have blissfully gone undetected. has neutral karma |
16:40 | * Brooke | laughs at ibot. |
16:40 | ronald | i need a patches? |
16:41 | wizzyrea | no, just a minute |
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16:41 | ronald | ?? |
16:41 | wizzyrea | i'm only saying that the server I'm checking on has patches beyond your version, so if it works in mine, then you might want the next version (due very soon) but if it doesn't it's likely a bug we'll need to report |
16:41 | or it's something else | |
16:42 | owen | Doesn't 3.00.02.012 = 3.0.2 ? |
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16:43 | ronald | 3.00.02.012 |
16:43 | cait | it's weekend :) |
16:43 | hi #koha | |
16:43 | Brooke | hi :D |
16:46 | jcamins | Hello, cait. |
16:46 | ronald | ?? |
16:46 | drotsk | hi cait |
16:47 | wizzyrea | ronald: i'm still checking |
16:47 | ronald | ah ok |
16:47 | cait | hi jcamins, Brooke, liz and drotsk |
16:48 | trea is now drotsk? | |
16:48 | drotsk | right |
16:48 | jcamins | Since you're here, what does "verzeichniss" mean? |
16:49 | * druthb | waves to cait, and the-being-formerly-known-as-trea. |
16:49 | cait | uh |
16:49 | context? | |
16:49 | normally something like a directory | |
16:49 | modern writing: verzeichnis | |
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16:50 | jcamins | "Verzeichniss verkaeuflicher Muenzen und Medaillen von Edmund Rappaport Bankgeschaeft und Muenzenhandlung." |
16:50 | cait | yay |
16:51 | directory of coins and medals on sale from edmund Rappaport banking something and coins shop | |
16:51 | sorry for bad translation | |
16:51 | jcamins | Ah-ha. Thank you. |
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16:52 | cait | :) |
16:53 | wizzyrea | ronald: I can't duplicate your issue, but I have several of my own, maybe someone else can test |
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16:55 | ronald | -. |
16:55 | :s | |
16:55 | wizzyrea | (I'm still working on it though) |
16:55 | (but I might not be as fast as you would like an answer) | |
16:56 | AHA | |
16:56 | one moment (my rules were wrong) | |
16:56 | (and an illuminating discovery) | |
16:56 | ronald: I am not seeing your issue on my installation | |
16:57 | you say that the date due disappears when you try to renew? | |
16:57 | ronald | yes |
16:58 | in white | |
16:58 | wizzyrea | what page are you renewing from? (Check Out, Details) |
16:58 | ronald | :s |
16:58 | i dont under... | |
16:59 | wizzyrea | example: I can renew an item on the same day from both circulation.pl and from moremember.pl |
16:59 | and the date shows up | |
17:01 | owen | ronald: I can't reproduce your problem in a test installation of version 3.00.06.010 (renewing on the same day as checkout) |
17:01 | ronald: Your Koha version is quite old, though, so you should think about upgrading | |
17:02 | ronald | not work in other days |
17:03 | i try the same day and not, and other day not | |
17:04 | * wizzyrea | kind of remembers a very old bug for that, but was fixed in later 3.00.x versions |
17:09 | ronald | but in your koha, the renewall work fine? |
17:10 | hdl | wizzyrea: blame it on 3.0 Release Maintainer... who did his job without sending patches for master |
17:10 | wizzyrea | aw |
17:10 | not the point :/ | |
17:10 | <3 hdl | |
17:11 | jcamins | hdl: but didn't this fix get into Master? It works fine for wizzyrea. |
17:13 | paul_p | ok, time for ... ... holiday now ! |
17:13 | cait | have a nice holiday paul_p |
17:13 | * paul_p | closed 14 customers questions/bugs today. |
17:13 | wizzyrea | paul_p: happy holidays! See you after! |
17:13 | that is made of win, paul_p | |
17:13 | paul_p | thx, see you all on 27th, or maybe sooner for a small "hello" and a virtual greeting card ;-) |
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19:45 | owen | Looks like it was three-martini lunches for everyone. |
19:45 | druthb | heh |
19:45 | cait | hm? |
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19:46 | * owen | apologizes for waking cait |
19:46 | ronald | hi every.... |
19:46 | cait | I was awake! |
19:46 | :) | |
19:47 | * wizzyrea | wishes there had been martini's involved. I had the chance at beer but hadn't eaten for 24h so thought it might be best to avoid the booze :P |
19:48 | owen | 24h?! |
19:48 | wizzyrea | since lunch yesterday |
19:48 | long story | |
19:48 | ronald | i try to do a reserve, but shows error 404 |
19:48 | by opac | |
19:49 | owen | ronald: Have you tried upgrading? |
19:51 | ronald | mmm...how? |
19:51 | owen | ronald: By downloading the most up-to-date version of Koha from http://www.koha-community.org |
19:53 | ronald | but i cant now...because these koha is working in a university |
19:54 | whats mean this error? | |
19:55 | cait | has is it worked before? |
19:55 | have you changed something in the configuration? | |
19:56 | ronald | yes |
19:56 | nop | |
19:57 | cait | but something must have changed |
19:57 | can you reserve other titles? | |
19:57 | what does koha-error.log say? | |
19:57 | ronald | no, any titles |
20:00 | but in the intranet i can reserve | |
20:00 | by in the opc not | |
20:01 | so, in koha-error.log, dnt shows nothind | |
20:02 | cait | do you use the en tempates? |
20:03 | english? | |
20:07 | ronald | log visor? |
20:08 | owen | ronald: Where are you located? |
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21:02 | mib_fwq1o | could someone briefly explain to me the process to do a bulk marc import? i've tried using the stage marc records tool but it doesn't add any items (even though it says items were added) |
21:03 | cait | do you have your items in field 952? |
21:03 | mib_fwq1o | cait: yes |
21:03 | cait | the bulk import exects the same data format |
21:03 | if you don't get the items in, the problem is probably in your data | |
21:04 | do you have $a and $b fields with your branchcode? | |
21:05 | mib_fwq1o | yes |
21:05 | cait | hm. can you post an example line on paste.koha-community.org? |
21:06 | jcamins | mib_fwq1o: are the bib records showing up in your search results after importing? |
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21:09 | mib_fwq1o | oh bother, i've just found the rebuild instructions on the faq, sorry about that guys. although i should note the faq wasn't the easiest to find on the site, perhaps a link on the top banner might be good? |
21:09 | wizzyrea | heh |
21:09 | cait | mib_fwq1o: have you staged them and managed them afterwards? there are 2 steps for import from tools in koha. |
21:10 | * wizzyrea | notes that it's getting crowded up there |
21:10 | cait | the more the merrier? :) |
21:10 | ah, on the page | |
21:10 | yep, I have problems with some navigations in firefox | |
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21:19 | cait | bed time |
21:19 | bye all | |
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21:44 | jcamins | Good night, #koha |
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22:42 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
22:42 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -9.5�C (4:44 PM CST on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady). |
23:32 | * chris | pops in from the car while the boys sleep |
23:35 | chris | @wunder upper hutt nz |
23:35 | munin | chris: Error: No such location could be found. |
23:35 | chris | @wunder wellington nz |
23:35 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0�C (12:00 PM NZDT on December 18, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
23:37 | druthb | hi, chris! |
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