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| 00:25 | chris | thd is catching up on mail obviously |
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| 01:00 | jcamins_a | chris: so it would seem. |
| 01:06 | chris | jcamins_a: does http://hudson.koha-community.org work for you? |
| 01:08 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 01:09 | jcamins | Yeah, looks like 3.2.x and master both built successfully, but all builds of 3.0.x are failing. |
| 01:10 | chris | cool |
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| 04:06 | brendan_l | !hudson status |
| 04:06 | hudsonbot | status of all projects: |
| 04:06 | Koha_3.0.x: last build: 2 (19 days ago): FAILURE: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]job/Koha_3.0.x/2/ | |
| 04:06 | Koha_3.2.x: last build: 45 (6 hr 50 min ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/45/ | |
| 04:06 | Koha_Master: last build: 172 (7 hr 6 min ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/172/ | |
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| 04:26 | * Brooke | waves at Amit |
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| 04:26 | Amit | heya Brooke |
| 04:26 | heya chris, brendan | |
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| 04:40 | Brooke | cait's on. It's shift change time ;) |
| 04:40 | * Brooke | hands Cait the keys. |
| 04:41 | Brooke | make sure you watch that Chris guy. He's a troublemaker. |
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| 04:42 | cait | that's what happens if you wake up too early... |
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| 05:11 | * cait | is rattling with the kes |
| 05:11 | cait | keys |
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| 06:12 | * cait | hands the keys over to wizzyrea |
| 06:12 | cait | have to go |
| 06:12 | breakfast ;) | |
| 06:24 | brendan_l | heya amit |
| 06:25 | Amit | heya brendab_l |
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| 06:30 | kmkale | hi all |
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| 08:27 | brendan_l | night |
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| 08:48 | ivanc | hi #koha |
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| 09:14 | chris | kmkale: a venue and speakers are the only important things |
| 09:14 | everything else is optional | |
| 09:15 | * chris | just edited the wiki page |
| 09:15 | chris | i do feel we are making it way more complicated than it needs to be |
| 09:15 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]onference_Bidding | |
| 09:16 | i stand by my comment there :) | |
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| 10:44 | kmkale | chris: I wrote there because VPM would be very interesting in hosting Kohacon in India. |
| 10:44 | and we have wonderful facilities here | |
| 10:48 | however I fully agree with you. Its the people that make the conference not facilities :) | |
| 10:55 | s/interesting/interested/ | |
| 11:17 | sophie_m | hdl : tu pourras regarder MT4483 en rentrant ? Merci |
| 11:17 | oups, not the right window, sorry | |
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| 12:23 | druthb | g'morning, #koha |
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| 12:23 | ZarkoKuva | Hi everyone |
| 12:23 | * druthb | waves at jwagner |
| 12:24 | * jwagner | gives a feeble flap of the hand in return |
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| 12:24 | * gmcharlt | hands jwagner some caffeine |
| 12:24 | * druthb | is way too cheerful and chirpy for her own good this morning. |
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| 12:30 | kmkale_ is now known as kmkale | |
| 12:31 | * jwagner | agrees that druthb is way too cheerful, but I am not a morning person.... |
| 12:31 | also thanks gmcharlt for the caffeine, and goes to the kitche to retrieve it. | |
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| 12:35 | kmkale | what is the proper marc tag for keywords defined in a single field like "Science of Psychology, Principles of Learning, Human Learning, Motivation, Perception, Personality, Psychological Testing" |
| 12:35 | 653$a? | |
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| 12:41 | druthb | kmkale: if it's not under authority control, then that's probably where I'd put it. |
| 12:42 | slef | @marc 653 a |
| 12:42 | munin | slef: Uncontrolled term (Repeatable) |
| 12:42 | slef | yes, I've used that, splitting on commas IIRC |
| 12:43 | druthb | you might chop it into multiple 653 entries, depending on what indicators you'd need. But a comma-separated list would work, for search purposes. |
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| 13:08 | hilongo | anybody can help me with some problem updating my Koha from 3.0.6 to 3.2.7 |
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| 13:41 | jwagner | You know, there's just something ...WRONG... about orange-flavored Tootsie Rolls. |
| 13:41 | tcohen | hilongo: que problema estas teniendo? |
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| 13:48 | hilongo | just 'something'... :) |
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| 13:49 | * druthb | must concur with jwagner on this...lime-flavored Tootsie Rolls taste fine, but..... |
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| 14:39 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 14:39 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 14:40 | druthb | hi, jcamins! :D |
| 14:40 | * jcamins | has a bibliomystery to start the day with |
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| 14:42 | seneca | good morning everyone (if you're from where I am...) |
| 14:43 | Does anyone here know anything about the label creation process in 3.2? | |
| 14:43 | jcamins | He is currently cataloging a newish book that should already have been cataloged, but doesn't seem to have a record. That on its own is not particularly strange, but there is a record for one of the articles in the book. Very strange. |
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| 14:49 | hilongo | Hola tcohen :) |
| 14:53 | seneca | Has anyone tried creating labels with 3.2 yet? |
| 14:53 | hilongo | not me ... but we would try that next week |
| 14:53 | seneca | hrmmm |
| 14:53 | jcamins | seneca: we don't use labels, sorry. |
| 14:54 | seneca | I'm getting a weird space issue and I don't know where to look to start investigating |
| 14:54 | the label and layout worked great in 3.1, but in 3.2 it prints with too much space between the text and barcode... | |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | I've seen weird space issues, we had good luck re-creating our templates |
| 14:57 | jcamins | Cool! I had to do was *think* "wizzyrea might know something about this," and here she is. :) |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 15:00 | * druthb | waves to wizzyrea. |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | and good morning everybody :) |
| 15:06 | jcamins | Good morning wizzyrea! |
| 15:06 | sekjal | good morning all, and happy Friday (for all those for whom such is applicable)! |
| 15:07 | * wizzyrea | cheers for Friday |
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| 15:13 | bigbrovar | hi guys I am finding it impossible to get refined search by libraries to work when I try to refine a search by library I get this error “kw,wrdl: book branch:Sid Ahmed Baba Library” even though books mapped to that library shows up in search. I had this issue in 3.0.6 and 3.2 |
| 15:21 | slef | bigbrovar: that looks like a search term, not an error. |
| 15:22 | hilongo: 3.2.7 is not out yet. We're on 3.2.0 | |
| 15:24 | bigbrovar | slef: you are right, but books attach to the library show up in the search. and when I click refine search by LIbrary "A" No results match your search for “kw,wrdl: book branch:Sid Ahmed Baba Library” even though books held and owned by the particular library shows up in the initial search |
| 15:28 | sekjal | anyone have success with the Branch Transfer Limits in Koha admin? |
| 15:28 | I'm trying to uncheck a bunch of values, but as soon as I come back to the page, they're checked again | |
| 15:31 | hdl | sekjal: work has been done on that in 3.4/Biblibre-admin |
| 15:32 | sekjal | hdl: great, I'll take a look |
| 15:36 | jcamins | bigbrovar: I ran into this error. |
| 15:36 | Try putting AND between the two terms. | |
| 15:37 | Oh, wait, never mind. You're encountering a different problem. | |
| 15:40 | bigbrovar | exactly I was about to clearify that |
| 15:41 | It just that I am unable to refine search by libraries. | |
| 15:41 | it always returns no result when I try | |
| 15:43 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 15:43 | Bug 4852? | |
| 15:43 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4852 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Facets doesn't work with direct CCL queries |
| 15:49 | bigbrovar | jcamins: here is a screenshot example of what I am saying. I search for a term http://farm5.static.flickr.com[…]_bfc3a176a7_m.jpg it shows me the libraries where with books related to that term. when I click for it to refine the search by one of the libraries. I get this http://www.flickr.com/photos/b[…]ovar2/5189937016/ |
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| 15:54 | jcamins | That's very odd. |
| 15:55 | Try this search: ccl=kw,wrdl:book AND branch:SABL | |
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| 16:01 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 16:02 | Does anyone know the status of bug 4852? Was it committed? | |
| 16:02 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4852 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Facets doesn't work with direct CCL queries |
| 16:02 | jcamins | The patch for bug 4852, that is. |
| 16:04 | That's weird. | |
| 16:05 | Oh, never mind. I see. | |
| 16:07 | Why is ccl/cql/pqf supposed to be "DIAGNOSTIC ONLY!!"? | |
| 16:16 | bigbrovar | jcamins: tried that same result. |
| 16:16 | I have got to head out now thanks for the help would have to look into it later | |
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| 16:33 | jcamins | Looks like slef is running his script again. :) |
| 16:36 | slef | jcamins: yes, just finished 2010-October. |
| 16:36 | I think patches is the wrong place for discussion. | |
| 16:37 | But if people will discuss things there, let's link the bug to it. | |
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| 17:01 | cait | hi #koha |
| 17:02 | jcamins | Hi cait |
| 17:02 | cait | hi jcamins |
| 17:02 | weekend! :) | |
| 17:02 | jcamins | Lucky you! |
| 17:03 | Actually, this weekend I don't have any jobs out of the house. So of course this is the weekend that my wife is in DC on a research trip. :( | |
| 17:10 | cait | oh |
| 17:10 | hm... you could bake more cookies? | |
| 17:11 | jwagner | And ship them to all of us??? |
| 17:12 | cait | perfect weekend program |
| 17:12 | ;) | |
| 17:13 | jcamins | jwagner: sorry, Shari already left for DC yesterday. :P |
| 17:17 | jwagner | :-( |
| 17:17 | jwagner is now known as jwag_food | |
| 17:19 | cait | the battery of this laptop is a joke :( |
| 17:19 | less than 30 minutes from 100% | |
| 17:21 | chris_n | hdl, gmcharlt: can we mark bug 4141 fixed and close it? |
| 17:21 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4141 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, reconcile 3.0.x and HEAD database updates for 3.2.0 |
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| 17:26 | hdl | well... Would be better if We had a clean upgrade path between 3.0.x and 3.2 |
| 17:27 | maybe gmcharlt can comment on that. | |
| 17:29 | gmcharlt | chris_n: it should stay open, I'm sure there may be some discrepency left to resolve |
| 17:30 | chris_n | k, a status update might still be in order |
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| 17:41 | schuster | Anyone know if authority records are searched in a keyword or only biblio? |
| 17:42 | I'm sure someone knows actually - I just don't. | |
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| 17:44 | sekjal | schuster: only biblios are searched in a keyword search |
| 17:45 | separate zebra databases | |
| 17:47 | schuster | I'm really glad we have an "authority file" that was one of my key reasons for selecting Koha... Now if we can work to easily update/add to it... Back end stuff though isn't as flashy as rating systems for the public. |
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| 17:54 | schuster | So if I edit an authority record does it actually update the associated bib records? |
| 17:54 | chris_n | hdl, gmcharlt: any objections to my backing 4141 down to critical as it is not really blocking any release |
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| 18:00 | wizzyrea | schuster: are you trying to say that we only do flashy things for the public? |
| 18:00 | because I don't think that's true at all. | |
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| 18:02 | wizzyrea | in fact, imo we've been neglecting some of the flashier things to make the staff side better lately. |
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| 18:26 | chsanch | Hi |
| 18:28 | we have a problem with our koha, we have koha installed on Debian Lenny, when we try to save a marc record from a z395.50 server we get this error: Wide character in null operation at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/Charset/Table.pm line 96. | |
| 18:28 | this record is in Catalán | |
| 18:29 | Consell Català de l'Esport | |
| 18:29 | chris | chsanch: do you have the z3950 server set to marc8 or utf8? |
| 18:29 | chsanch | chris: marc8 |
| 18:29 | chris | whatever it is, try changing it to the other, then try that record again |
| 18:30 | sometimes that works | |
| 18:31 | chsanch | let me see |
| 18:33 | hmm, it seems to work, but, we have not encoded characters: Valeri M�aximo | |
| 18:34 | chris | right, so i think there is a mismatch |
| 18:35 | the server is sending utf8, the record is marc8 (or vice versa) | |
| 18:35 | seneca | Hey all - anyone in here familiar with 3.2's label creation process? |
| 18:35 | chris | seneca: chris_n is probably the guru on that |
| 18:36 | chsanch | chris: Ok, any recommendation? |
| 18:36 | * chris_n | hears his name in the same sentence as guru and quickly hides :-) |
| 18:37 | chris | chsanch: if my theory is right, you might want to ask the library you are getting the records from what there z3950 server is set up to send |
| 18:38 | chsanch | chris: Ok, thanks, we'll try that |
| 18:38 | chris_n | heya chris |
| 18:39 | sorry to hear about the coal mine accident there | |
| 18:39 | chris | yeah, still 27 missing :( |
| 18:39 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]s-could-take-days | |
| 18:40 | gmcharlt | chris_n: none |
| 18:40 | schuster | wizzyrea - sorry I should have mentioned that my opinion was based on my current administration view. |
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| 19:57 | Brooke | don't all talk at once. |
| 20:04 | * druthb | waves and points, and babbles incoherently. It appears she has used up her quota of words for the week. |
| 20:04 | * jwagner | is too busy napping after a very large and tasty holiday lunch |
| 20:07 | * jcamins | gurgles wordlessly. It seems he is conserving the remainder of his quota of words for the week until dinner tonight, when he will be preparing for the budget meeting in two weeks. |
| 20:07 | Brooke | eeeewww budget meeting |
| 20:08 | my condolences. | |
| 20:08 | mah budget meeting used to be at 7 am ish in Hinsdale. | |
| 20:08 | it took the selectmen 3 years to figger out I didn't live in town | |
| 20:08 | and that it was slightly more merciful to have me speak at 10. | |
| 20:09 | jcamins | Not only is it a budget meeting, it's a budget meeting for a non-profit association. |
| 20:09 | Brooke | yee haw. |
| 20:09 | * druthb | waves. |
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| 20:09 | jcamins | And I'm the unpopular one who gets to say "no, we can't just reduce our expenditures on membership to balance the budget." |
| 20:10 | And "yes, it will cost money to have our data migrated, unless someone else in this room is going to volunteer? No? Well, there you are then." | |
| 20:11 | schuster | It's open source it's free right! |
| 20:12 | :) | |
| 20:12 | jcamins | schuster: oh god, you think someone will propose an open source alternative? Just shoot me now. |
| 20:12 | We're looking at membership databases. | |
| 20:13 | I strongly support open source, but some technical expertise is required if you want to maintain your own. | |
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| 20:14 | Brooke | oh joy, the issuing table is even more complex than the last time I checked XD |
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| 20:15 | * Brooke | waves at wizzyrea |
| 20:18 | schuster | sorry jcamins I thought you were talking about a library system migration! |
| 20:19 | jcamins | schuster: nope, membership database. |
| 20:19 | schuster: you had me scared there. | |
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| 20:28 | * Brooke | salutes Nengard with respect. |
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| 20:31 | nengard | Hiya from my phone |
| 20:32 | Brooke | I fit in your phone?! |
| 20:33 | * chris_n | suddenly feels awful cramped |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | ow, that was my rib! |
| 20:35 | gmcharlt | and this is exactly why open source ILS projects have not been quick to embrace the mobile OPAC -- too cramped to contain the community |
| 20:36 | Brooke | heheh |
| 20:36 | that Conference barcode read app was hawt. | |
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| 20:50 | wizzyrea | aha, a philosophy I can get behind: http://lifehacker.com/5693759/[…]on-the-good-stuff |
| 20:52 | jcamins | wizzyrea: a good philosophy. |
| 20:53 | Some philosophies, are simple. | |
| 20:54 | Brooke | te nosce. |
| 20:54 | jcamins | Some philosophies, are clear. |
| 20:54 | Brooke | pfft, we talkin' about the same philosophy, boy? ; |
| 20:55 | jcamins | Some take a lifetime. |
| 20:55 | ... and Brooke is not a musical theatre fan. :) | |
| 20:55 | Brooke | don't know that one. |
| 20:55 | there are some productions where I could if pressed sing the playbook. | |
| 20:55 | jcamins | You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown. :) |
| 20:56 | Brooke | pfft |
| 20:56 | doesn't count. | |
| 20:56 | *duck* | |
| 20:56 | * jcamins | only knows the show because several of his friends were in a community theatre version. |
| 20:57 | Brooke | <--- prop mistress and back stage ratbag for many productions |
| 20:58 | nengard | Sorry got distracted .. you're all silly btw :) |
| 20:58 | * Brooke | takes it as a compliment. |
| 20:58 | jcamins | ... and that's my new philosophy! |
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| 21:12 | * chris_n | heads out to steal honey from the bees |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | oooo |
| 21:13 | yum | |
| 21:13 | Brooke | mmmm mead. |
| 21:20 | right well, all documentation and no fun makes me even duller than I already am | |
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| 21:46 | jcamins | Have a good weekend, #koha |
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| 22:11 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 22:45 | mib_f67cq | hello |
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| 22:49 | wizzyrea | friday, bad day to try to get tech support |
| 22:53 | cait | hi liz :) |
| 22:55 | wizzyrea | hi cait :D |
| 22:55 | cait | weeekend! |
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| 23:25 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 23:25 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.9�C (3:23 PM PST on November 19, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect from midnight tonight to 9 am PST Saturday... |
| 23:25 | brendan | wow cold out |
| 23:29 | cait | t |
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