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00:04 | chris | hmm 2 secs ill check that out |
00:05 | ahh i see the problem, bad merge, ill fix | |
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00:10 | chris | right, pushed the fix up |
00:18 | that work better now owen? | |
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00:22 | owen | Thanks chris, that looks like it worked now |
00:23 | chris | cool |
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01:02 | * druthb | waves to Brooke |
01:02 | * Brooke | smiles |
01:04 | daniel | howdy y'all |
01:04 | Brooke, just ten minutes ago I quoted you on "the trip of a lifetime" | |
01:04 | Brooke | hi dere |
01:05 | oh noes | |
01:05 | not people quoting me *again* | |
01:05 | daniel | yerz |
01:05 | quotable you | |
01:05 | * Brooke | mutters summat about only allowing Sen. Leahy such privileges... |
01:06 | druthb | @quote add <Brooke> not people quoting me *again* |
01:06 | munin | druthb: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
01:06 | Brooke | yes |
01:06 | I am SPARED! | |
01:06 | the bot say NUUUUUUUU | |
01:07 | druthb | @quote add <Brooke> not people quoting me *again* |
01:07 | munin | druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #104 added. |
01:07 | druthb | Better. |
01:07 | * Brooke | shakes her fist at druthb |
01:07 | druthb | hehehe. |
01:08 | Brooke | clearly shouldn't have done that. Left deltoid is still not on a speaking basis with me. |
01:09 | daniel | yay druthb! |
01:09 | druthb | :) |
01:10 | hm. | |
01:10 | @roulette | |
01:10 | munin | druthb: *click* |
01:10 | druthb | @roulette |
01:10 | druthb was kicked by munin: BANG! | |
01:10 | daniel | this irc stuff is new to me |
01:10 | * munin | reloads and spins the chambers. |
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01:10 | Brooke | hehehe |
01:10 | druthb | lol |
01:10 | daniel | druthb++ |
01:11 | druthb | For the longest time after I changed my nick to this, munin had it in for me or something...first time, boom. over and over. |
01:11 | @karma druthb | |
01:11 | munin | druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 39 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 39. |
01:11 | Brooke | munin++ |
01:12 | daniel | excuse me while i experiment |
01:12 | @karma druthb | |
01:12 | munin | daniel: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 39 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 39. |
01:12 | druthb | @karma |
01:12 | munin | druthb: Highest karma: "chris" (208), "gmcharlt" (203), and "owen" (174). Lowest karma: "<!" (-71), "failed" (-49), and "-" (-30). You (druthb) are ranked 14 out of 1079. |
01:12 | daniel | cool |
01:14 | gmcharlt | < and ! - such hardworking punctuation characters, but they get no respect at all |
01:14 | Brooke | !++ |
01:15 | * druthb | startles suddenly, seeing that gmcharlt is not a statue. |
01:18 | * gmcharlt | is sneaky that way |
01:19 | * daniel | is experimenting with what's possible using mibbit |
01:19 | owen | Wow, I was coming close to gmcharlt for a while, and then he zoomed away again |
01:19 | Brooke | there's only one SLS and you are not he ;) |
01:19 | owen | As it should be, though |
01:19 | chris | try this daniel |
01:20 | /ctcp chris time (without the leading space) | |
01:20 | it may or may not work in mibbit | |
01:20 | daniel | cool! thanks! |
01:21 | so mibbit takes at least a few irc commands | |
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01:21 | daniel | pay no attention to that man behind the curtain |
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01:22 | Brooke | pfft character limits. |
01:23 | daniel | what's a ratbox? related to a ratbag? ;) |
01:23 | * Brooke | laughs |
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02:09 | Brooke | ho there |
02:09 | wizzyrea_ | hiyas |
02:11 | druthb | hi, wizzyrea! |
02:11 | wizzyrea_ | hey ruth :D |
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02:27 | * druthb | waves |
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03:32 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Brooke caught my april fools trick, its not 20004 yet! <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]89fa5f5509ec63082> |
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03:36 | Amit | heya all |
03:45 | hudsonbot | Starting build 162 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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04:08 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #162: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]/Koha_Master/162/ |
04:08 | Chris Cormack: Brooke caught my april fools trick, its not 20004 yet! | |
04:08 | Starting build 163 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
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04:12 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4074 Fix fail to parse simple qualified search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]37d0261f0327f12c2> |
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04:26 | kmkale | hi all |
04:26 | chris | Hi kmkale |
04:29 | kmkale | hi chris |
04:30 | Brooke | hi km |
04:30 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #163: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]/Koha_Master/163/ |
04:30 | Colin Campbell: Bug 4074 Fix fail to parse simple qualified search | |
04:31 | kmkale | hi Brooke |
04:32 | chris | !hudson testresult |
04:32 | hudsonbot | test results of all projects: |
04:32 | Koha_3.0.x: latest build contains no test results | |
04:32 | Koha_3.2.x build #39 had 0 of 8005 tests fail | |
04:32 | Koha_Master build #163 had 0 of 8007 tests fail | |
04:36 | kmkale | chris how do I go about adding one more system preference option to itemBarcodeInputFilter? add it in sysprefs.sql? anyhting more? |
04:37 | chris | Yep, updatedatabase.pl |
04:38 | kmkale | ok. Thanks. |
04:38 | chris | And the preferences file in the koha-tmpl dir |
04:38 | Under that dir anyway | |
04:38 | kmkale | oh. |
04:39 | chris | I forget the path but its a file that is used to control the display and is translatable |
04:39 | Better than the old way | |
04:39 | kmkale | searching |
04:40 | koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences.tmpl | |
04:40 | chris | Nope |
04:40 | kmkale | koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/systempreferences.tmpl |
04:40 | chris | Its not a .tmpl file |
04:40 | kmkale | koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/admin/preferences.tmpl |
04:41 | chris | Maybe .pref |
04:41 | kmkale | koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/js/pages/preferences.js |
04:41 | koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/css/preferences.css | |
04:41 | chris | Nope |
04:41 | kmkale | these are all I can find under koha-tmpl with *preferences* |
04:41 | chris | Try .pref |
04:42 | kmkale | trying |
04:42 | chris | Or just preference |
04:42 | Id look but id have start a vpn and that's just a pain :) | |
04:43 | pastebot | "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted ".pref files under koha-tmpl" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/102 |
04:43 | kmkale | :) just pasted all I could find with .pref |
04:43 | chris | Those are them |
04:43 | kmkale | none seems a likely candidate :( |
04:44 | chris | So you edit the one you want it to live under |
04:44 | they make the tabs in the preferences editor | |
04:45 | I'm guessing admin.pref | |
04:45 | You might want to grep that preferences dir to find the one its in | |
04:47 | kmkale | koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/circulation.pref has itemBarcodeInputFilter in it |
04:47 | chris | That's the one to edit then |
04:47 | kmkale | the purpose of this file is to offer the explanation for the syspref and its options? |
04:48 | chris | Yep |
04:48 | And to be translatable | |
04:48 | The db isnt | |
04:49 | So its actually the more important file to edit | |
04:49 | kmkale | ok. Thanks chris. |
04:49 | Although this work seems destined only for this one college it is good practice for me to make it into a proper patch :) | |
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04:50 | kmkale | chris can the 4440 be merged into master now? |
04:50 | chris | Patches ftw |
04:51 | The newly submitted and signed off patches yes | |
04:51 | Ill do that tomorrow | |
04:51 | kmkale | :) thanks again |
04:51 | chris++ | |
04:53 | chris | Np |
04:53 | kmkale | bbl |
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05:15 | fredericd | chris++ |
05:15 | very easy to test QA branches | |
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06:11 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 4074 Fix fail to parse simple qualified search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]381be58c9ac9f52aa> / Brooke caught my april fools trick, its not 20004 yet! <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3a1d2cf6516043e3c> |
06:15 | hudsonbot | Starting build 40 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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06:34 | cait | hi #koha |
06:36 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_3.2.x build #40: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/40/ |
06:36 | * Chris Cormack: Brooke caught my april fools trick, its not 20004 yet! | |
06:36 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 4074 Fix fail to parse simple qualified search | |
06:55 | cait | hi hudson |
06:55 | !hudson botsnack muesli | |
06:55 | hudsonbot | cait: thanks a lot! om nom nom. I just love muesli! |
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07:12 | chris | hi cait |
07:12 | fredericd++ #thanks for testing | |
07:12 | cait | hi chris :) |
07:12 | how was your trip? | |
07:12 | chris | very good, did i show you the photo? |
07:12 | cait | I saw it |
07:12 | with the mountain | |
07:13 | chris | yep, that was from up in the water tower, 257 steps |
07:14 | cait | :) |
07:14 | you were there for work? | |
07:16 | chris | yep |
07:18 | cait | nice :) |
07:33 | ok, time for work! | |
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08:13 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5152 - confirm buttons different styles on lists <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5c5fce677d408daea> / Fix for Bug 5037 - If patron category is empty it shouldn't show <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b7f0997c3b507b51d> / Fix for Bug 3013, Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types <h |
08:16 | hudsonbot | Starting build 164 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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08:30 | magnus | ata marie, #koha |
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08:38 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #164: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]/Koha_Master/164/ |
08:38 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3013, Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types | |
08:38 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5037 - If patron category is empty it shouldn't show | |
08:38 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5152 - confirm buttons different styles on lists | |
08:39 | magnus | yay! |
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08:45 | hudsonbot | Starting build 165 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
08:53 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2122 follow-up for authorities editor <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dda30d9c6508e3da7> / Fix for Bug 2122, Grayed out Fields not always visible <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]65bdd6c011c951068> |
09:06 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #165: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]/Koha_Master/165/ |
09:06 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 2122, Grayed out Fields not always visible | |
09:06 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 2122 follow-up for authorities editor | |
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09:11 | kf | good morning #koha |
09:16 | magnus | guten morgen kf |
09:18 | hm, is http://translate.koha-community.org/ now the active pootle for koha 3.4? http://translate.koha.org/ has a 500 error | |
09:19 | on http://translate.koha-community.org/ "Visit Koha official web site" points to koha.org | |
09:21 | chris | yep it still is, something has broken it, it was working this morning |
09:22 | is it working again now? | |
09:25 | magnus | chris: yep, thanks! |
09:30 | sounds like work will soon be under way for a swedish translation. yay! | |
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11:30 | kmkale | @roulette |
11:30 | munin | kmkale: *click* |
11:36 | kf | @roulette |
11:36 | munin | kf: *click* |
11:40 | magnus | @roulette |
11:40 | munin | magnus: *click* |
11:40 | magnus | puh |
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12:04 | kmkale | munin is outta ammo |
12:04 | munin | kmkale: Error: "is" is not a valid command. |
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12:18 | kmkale | can anyone tell me how to print debug messages from Circulation.pm to koha-error_log? |
12:19 | I want to insert print statements to check barcode on values being passed while I am working on a custom itemBarcodeInputFilter | |
12:24 | ok got it :) | |
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12:55 | druthb | howdy, #koha. |
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12:56 | kf | h druthb :) |
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13:02 | kmkale | hi druthb |
13:02 | druthb | hi, kf and kmkale. :) |
13:02 | kmkale | hi kf |
13:11 | druthb | @quote random |
13:11 | munin | druthb: Quote #49: "wizzyrea: KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 04:20 PM, December 22, 2009) |
13:11 | druthb | @quote random |
13:11 | munin | druthb: Quote #87: "<wizzyrea> my standard reply for that is you know that women are genetically predisposed to wake to a baby's cry... where men are more likely to wake up to the sound of a fly buzzing" (added by chris_n at 07:26 PM, July 29, 2010) |
13:11 | druthb | lol |
13:12 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 2122 follow-up for authorities editor <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4642d64807ff859ec> / Fix for Bug 2122, Grayed out Fields not always visible <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]288d7eefeb64993d8> / Fix for Bug 5152 - confirm buttons different styles on lists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; |
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13:15 | hudsonbot | Starting build 41 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
13:16 | druthb | Good morning, owen. |
13:17 | owen | Hi |
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13:31 | kmkale | The Circulation system preference page says "itemBarcodeInputFilter (modified) scanned patron barcodes. " Does itemBarcodeInputFilter setting also affect patron barcodes in the same way as it does item barcodes? |
13:38 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_3.2.x build #41: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/41/ |
13:38 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3013, Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types | |
13:38 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5037 - If patron category is empty it shouldn't show | |
13:38 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5152 - confirm buttons different styles on lists | |
13:38 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 2122, Grayed out Fields not always visible | |
13:38 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 2122 follow-up for authorities editor | |
13:38 | druthb | owen++ |
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14:27 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
14:27 | sekjal | morning, jcamins |
14:36 | owen | Can someone remind me of how to add [SIGNED-OFF] to a git send-email subject line? |
14:37 | sekjal | git commit --amend |
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14:39 | owen | That adds the line to the commit message, but not to the subject line of the email does it? |
14:39 | sekjal | the subject line of the email will be the first line of the updated commit message |
14:39 | git commit --amend to add [SIGNED-OFF] to the beginning of the first line, plus any other notes further down | |
14:39 | then git format-patch -s to add the signoff line | |
14:43 | owen | Thanks sekjal, I don't think that was how I was instructed before but it seems to have worked |
14:43 | chris_n | or (courtesy gmcharlt): git format-patch -s --subject-prefix='PATCH] [SIGNED-OFF' origin |
14:44 | jcamins | chris_n: wow! That's really cool! |
14:45 | sekjal | git++ |
14:46 | kf | git++ gmcharlt++ |
14:57 | jcamins | @karma git |
14:57 | munin | jcamins: Karma for "git" has been increased 13 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 13. |
14:57 | jcamins | @karma gmcharlt |
14:57 | munin | jcamins: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 208 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 204. |
14:58 | jcamins | git++ gmcharlt++ |
14:58 | @karma git | |
14:58 | munin | jcamins: Karma for "git" has been increased 14 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 14. |
14:58 | jcamins | @karma gmcharlt |
14:58 | munin | jcamins: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 209 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 205. |
14:58 | * owen | adds more sign-off details to the wiki page on the subject |
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15:02 | briceSanc | Hello |
15:03 | sekjal | morning, briceSanc! |
15:05 | briceSanc | Do you know if there is a way to detect the current intranet language in a script ? |
15:06 | jcamins | briceSanc: server-side script or client-side script? |
15:06 | briceSanc | server-side script |
15:06 | jcamins | I think there's a syspref. |
15:10 | briceSanc | In fact, I want to display information based on the language |
15:11 | jcamins | The syspref is language, I think. |
15:11 | With the two digit (iso646) language code. | |
15:17 | rhcl | amit published a book |
15:19 | owen | https://www.packtpub.com/koha-[…]ement-system/book |
15:23 | jwagner | Congrats to Amit! |
15:34 | wizzyrea | owen++ |
15:34 | thanks for the additions to the signoff page | |
15:34 | owen | I can assure you it was purely self-serving ;) Now maybe I'll remember |
15:35 | wizzyrea | I did one of those a couple of weeks back |
15:35 | (completely self serving wiki edits) | |
15:36 | kmkale | The Circulation system preference page says "itemBarcodeInputFilter (modified) scanned patron barcodes. ".. Does itemBarcodeInputFilter setting also affect patron barcodes in the same way as it does item barcodes? |
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15:38 | sekjal | kmkale: as I recall, the itmeBarcodeInputFilter is not applied to patron barcodes at all, no |
15:38 | kmkale | Then the text on the sys pref page needs change |
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16:20 | kmkale | bye all |
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16:32 | cait | hi #koha |
16:33 | magnus | ih cait |
16:33 | s/ih/hi/ | |
16:33 | wizzyrea | hi cait :) |
16:33 | cait | ih cait? |
16:33 | hi liz :) | |
16:33 | hi magnus :) | |
16:34 | magnus | i tried to correct it! ;-) |
16:34 | druthb | hi, cait and liz and magnus! :) |
16:36 | magnus | hi druthb and wizzyrea |
16:37 | wizzyrea | woot druthb! :) |
16:37 | * druthb | woots at wizzyrea. |
16:46 | cait | why are you wooting? |
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16:47 | magnus | because it's fun? |
16:47 | wizzyrea | because everybody deserves a woot once in a while :) |
16:50 | cait | oh |
16:50 | ok :) | |
16:50 | magnus | woot cait! |
16:50 | cait | woot magnus! |
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17:08 | * druthb | woots at cait, so she doesn't feel left out. |
17:08 | * cait | woots back |
17:08 | druthb | @karma druthb |
17:08 | munin | druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 39 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 39. |
17:09 | druthb | m-hm. |
17:09 | @karma jwagner | |
17:09 | munin | druthb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 49 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 49. |
17:09 | druthb | :-O |
17:09 | jwagner | heh |
17:09 | druthb | @quote get 102 |
17:09 | munin | druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010) |
17:10 | * jwagner | mutters about poachers.... |
17:10 | * druthb | gets out some eggs, and gets ready to poach. |
17:11 | cait | poach? |
17:12 | druthb | a way to cook eggs...hm. |
17:12 | jwagner | Whereas I'm referring to people who hunt illegally on other people's property :-( |
17:12 | jcamins | cait: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poaching and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poaching_(cooking) |
17:12 | druthb | pochierte eier? |
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17:14 | cait | druthb: right, but never saw or ate some |
17:14 | druthb | oh! is a yummy way to eat 'em. |
17:14 | wizzyrea | ya, poached eggs are yummy, especially with hollandaise sauce |
17:15 | druthb | An English muffin, a slice of canadian bacon, a poached egg, and hollandaise sauce. yum. |
17:15 | owen | As Mr. Wonka said, "A poached egg isn't a poached egg unless it's been stolen from the woods in the dead of night." |
17:15 | rhcl | 2 fried eggs, heavily peppered, big thick slice of ham, hash browns and buttered wheat toast |
17:15 | * jcamins | has never eaten a poached egg either. |
17:16 | * jwagner | notes the usual daily digression into food conversation, and gets hungry.... |
17:16 | rhcl | lunch time for you easterners |
17:16 | wizzyrea | it's lunchtime on the east coast ;) |
17:16 | jwagner | Yes, but my office mate just now called in the Chinese order. Certain people twisted my arm to order good food instead of the healthy stuff I bring in my lunch :-) |
17:17 | druthb | just now! sheesh. |
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17:32 | hdl | cfouts: around ? |
17:33 | sekjal: around ? | |
17:33 | sekjal | hdl: yes, I'm here |
17:33 | hdl | hi how are you ? |
17:33 | sekjal | doing okay; grappling with some SIP issues |
17:33 | hdl | which ones ? |
17:34 | I have done some work on SIP it is on our branch 3.0.x | |
17:34 | (for holds and Renewals, iirc) | |
17:34 | sekjal | one SIP service seems to be transmitting the username and password for the SIP user in a format that Koha can't recognize |
17:34 | so, lots of mucking about with configs, and talking with the service's support peoiple | |
17:35 | hdl | yeah... there is a striping of characters which makes some passwords not working. |
17:35 | iirc. @ and ! would not be recognized. | |
17:35 | using a SIMPLE password does the trick | |
17:36 | sekjal | both $uid and $pwd are coming through as uninitialized |
17:37 | wizzyrea | sekjal: envisionware? |
17:37 | sekjal | bluesocket |
17:37 | wizzyrea | nuts. |
17:37 | hdl | yes... It is that kind of stuff. you should look at the readsippacket. |
17:37 | sekjal: have you been able to produce some intereting map of cycles? | |
17:38 | sekjal | I've gotten two maps out there now, but both are very large and difficult to read |
17:38 | one includes highlighting, which helps a little | |
17:38 | http://bit.ly/co8iEg | |
17:39 | haven't had time to refine my scripts to only include modules that both 'use' and are used | |
17:39 | there is a loop between C4::Reserves, C4::Search and C4::XSLT, though | |
17:42 | hdl | yes. |
17:43 | ok... will try to work on that. | |
17:43 | sekjal | thanks, hdl! |
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17:43 | hdl | thank you. |
17:43 | How do you produce pdf ? | |
17:44 | sekjal | step 1: my script creates a .dot file out of the kohaclone/C4 directory |
17:44 | step 2: I run that file through another script to add highlighting for cycles | |
17:44 | step 3: open in Graphviz, and export as PDF | |
17:46 | hdl | I think I fail the step 3. |
17:46 | But well. Work on C4::Reserves C4::Search C4::XSLT cycle is a good start | |
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18:00 | Brooke | what it is |
18:01 | druthb | @quote get 104 |
18:01 | munin | druthb: Quote #104: "<Brooke> not people quoting me *again*" (added by druthb at 01:07 AM, November 17, 2010) |
18:01 | Brooke | :P |
18:02 | * Brooke | can take the piss outta people, but can't take it herself. {Error line 67. TFU} |
18:04 | druthb | hee hee. |
18:07 | Brooke | if you really wanna do a number on me, you round up mah Fraternity Brothers with a little help from the Wayback Machine ;) |
18:07 | * druthb | wouldn't do a number on Brooke. |
18:07 | is nicer than that. | |
18:07 | Brooke | it *is* really funny, so long as you aren't me. |
18:08 | owen is now known as owen-away | |
18:11 | wizzyrea | oh, lunch time |
18:11 | cold and nasty, burrito or pizza? | |
18:11 | hmm | |
18:12 | Brooke | metal or rock? |
18:12 | wizzyrea | techno ;) |
18:12 | Brooke | techno = hummus + a salad |
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18:17 | Brooke | howdy big |
18:23 | ooooh smexy Social Networking and Litigation: Friend or Unethical Foe? Event on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 | |
18:24 | jcamins | Wow, RDA was published in a print edition. |
18:24 | sekjal is now known as sekjal_a | |
18:24 | Brooke | for reals? |
18:25 | jcamins | Yup. |
18:25 | Sceenshots? | |
18:26 | A bunch of 8.5"x11" printouts? | |
18:26 | * jcamins | is curious |
18:28 | Brooke | omg there's one on violent video games, too. |
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18:33 | Brooke | http://www.rdatoolkit.org/RDAPrint |
18:33 | sorry, jcamins, the legal pr0n was just too shiny. | |
18:36 | schuster | Yes - online they wanted like $300 annually. |
18:37 | chris | Morning |
18:37 | * Brooke | salutes Chris with respect |
18:37 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
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18:40 | chris | I still think that in most searches we aren't actually telling zebra to relevance rank and that's the root of the problem |
18:41 | * chris | continues a mail thread in irc |
18:41 | * Brooke | thanks chris |
18:41 | Brooke | How did it work in the before time? |
18:41 | cait | morning chris |
18:42 | chris | Well you have to tell zebra to apply relevance ranking, somewhere that has been removed, or never existed in the first place |
18:45 | Hiya cait | |
18:45 | My testing shows if you actually enable it you get much better results | |
18:45 | I'm gonna get wizzyrea to do some testing for me | |
18:45 | And hopefully a patch will come from that | |
18:46 | Brooke | ken ah test, too? |
18:47 | chris | Got a 3.2 up and running with zebra? If so then yep |
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18:58 | * jcamins | doesn't think his library will be purchasing the print version of RDA for a while. |
18:58 | * Brooke | doesn't believe _any_ library will be |
18:59 | chris | I am |
18:59 | Brooke | it'll be a handful of early adaptors |
18:59 | chris | As ammo for my catapault |
18:59 | Right my stop | |
18:59 | cait | expensive ammo |
18:59 | Brooke | you must document this, sir. |
18:59 | chris | Bbiab |
18:59 | cait | where do you aim with your catapult? |
18:59 | chris | If I can hit stephen abram its worth it |
18:59 | cait | or at what? |
18:59 | lol | |
19:00 | jcamins | cait: there are so many good options! |
19:01 | cait | perhaps you can get a discount on buying them in dozens? |
19:03 | jcamins | cait: good idea. |
19:03 | cait | so why are people asking about rda fields in kohaß |
19:04 | jcamins | Because it's going to be the next big thing, and everyone wants to be ready. |
19:04 | Brooke | *nod* |
19:04 | only to be fair | |
19:04 | Koha was sort of close to the mark, and definitely close to DC, when it came out | |
19:04 | cait | and MARC broke it all |
19:04 | Brooke | everyone else has perpetually been behind Rosalie and JoAnn's thought. |
19:05 | cait | :) |
19:10 | jcamins | cait: you have encapsulated the world's problems. |
19:11 | cait | nah, poor marc, it's not all his fault |
19:11 | Brooke | oh yes it issss |
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19:15 | chris | back |
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19:16 | Brooke | ho richard |
19:16 | richard | h iBrooke |
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19:29 | chris | ok |
19:29 | http://catalog.bywatersolution[…]-search.pl?q=alex | |
19:29 | with relevance ranking | |
19:29 | http://catalog.bywatersolution[…],rtrn,wrdl%3Dalex | |
19:29 | with relevance ranking disabled | |
19:30 | Brooke | definitely yuck on the second |
19:30 | chris | my theory is that if you seeing results like the 2nd, that look to have little bearing on what you are searching on, chances are, it isnt actually doing relevance ranking |
19:30 | Brooke | but for the first, it would be ideal to have author hits rise up in weight. |
19:30 | chris | if you do author search it does |
19:30 | thats just a keyword, its sure frequency of occurence | |
19:30 | Brooke | aye, but should it not drill down? |
19:31 | owen | "Therapy" has the search term in the subtitle and in a subject heading |
19:31 | That's +2 for that one over +1 for the author hit, as I see it | |
19:31 | chris | yep |
19:31 | Brooke | I still think author trumps subtitle |
19:32 | chris | in traditional catalogues yeah, where only librarians can find stuff |
19:32 | cos they understand rules that like | |
19:32 | Brooke | raw frequency might be a bear on ranking |
19:32 | * Brooke | is not as stuffy as you think |
19:33 | sekjal | I'd like to see user-configurable relevancy algorithms, but that'd probably be way more trouble than it's worth |
19:33 | Brooke | I just think more is not necessarily better. |
19:33 | prolly not sekjal | |
19:33 | chris | nope, but neither is author a better match nessecarily than subtitle, on a keyword search |
19:33 | Brooke | if we *really* wanna innovate, those would be smexy. |
19:34 | chris | sekjal: it isnt actually that hard |
19:34 | owen | So chris what's the diagnosis? Is ranking really broken (or not used) by default? |
19:34 | chris | you can pass things to zebra to make it wait fields |
19:34 | dunno, cos the people who are complaining, i cant see their opacs | |
19:35 | Brooke | can you configure those things up front so they happen out of the box> |
19:35 | chris | but it seems to me, that you get much better results with relevance ranking on |
19:35 | wizzyrea | where do you check? |
19:36 | chris | wizzyrea: easy way to check is this |
19:36 | http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]%3Dkw,wrdl%3Dalex | |
19:36 | without ranking | |
19:36 | http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]nk,kw,wrdl%3Dalex | |
19:36 | wizzyrea | i hope that's faster for you than it was for me… oi. |
19:36 | chris | with |
19:36 | no, its slow as hell | |
19:36 | ur db is borked | |
19:36 | Brooke | same hyeah |
19:37 | chris | now those 2 queries arent doing right truncation, so lemme turn that on, cos it looks like you have that on too |
19:38 | http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…],wrdl,rtrn%3Dalex | |
19:38 | without again | |
19:38 | http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…],wrdl,rtrn%3Dalex | |
19:38 | with | |
19:39 | so the stemming (right truncation) does make it harder to find exact matches | |
19:39 | but ranking is still better with them than no ranking | |
19:39 | wizzyrea | so it's the rank bit |
19:39 | chris | yup |
19:39 | now if you look at | |
19:40 | http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]-search.pl?q=alex | |
19:40 | it seems to be doing ranking | |
19:40 | Brooke | is there a way to kidney punch right trunc so that it cooperates? |
19:40 | chris | Brooke: its doing exactly what we told it to |
19:40 | Brooke | (Precise match > longer variant) |
19:41 | wizzyrea | GIGO and all that ;) |
19:41 | Brooke | but it's not garbage |
19:41 | wizzyrea | and on my 3.3 that has old production data on it, the ranking seems to be broken, the results are much better with the ranking on |
19:41 | chris | yes it is |
19:41 | C4/Search is a maze of garbage | |
19:41 | Brooke | and someone just raised the Librarian finding information but not the patron so :P |
19:41 | owen | Bummer that highlighting is busted when you use ccl |
19:42 | chris | Brooke: our search module is garbage |
19:42 | Brooke | didn't used to be. What happened? |
19:42 | chris | its always been garbage |
19:43 | jcamins | Brooke: see cait's comment 40 minutes ago. ;) |
19:43 | * wizzyrea | coughs |
19:43 | wizzyrea | marc |
19:43 | * wizzyrea | coughs |
19:43 | chris | but it still works better than lots |
19:43 | Brooke | there was a Librarian at CCILA that was very hot on Koha being able to find King's IT |
19:43 | chris | and if we rewrote the search module in a way that wasnt a maze of incomprehension we could make it work a lot better |
19:44 | Brooke | where other ILSs failed utterly |
19:44 | chris | Brooke: still can |
19:44 | Brooke | (stopword thing, I realise) |
19:44 | chris | like i say, its better than others |
19:44 | but they are total garbage | |
19:44 | ours is jsut mostly garbage | |
19:44 | Brooke | so it's just like me. |
19:44 | that puts it into perspective :) | |
19:44 | druthb | harrrumph! |
19:45 | chris | http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]ac-search.pl?q=it |
19:45 | shazzam! | |
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19:46 | * druthb | runs away from the clown. |
19:48 | jcamins | chris: impressive. For your next trick, can you make it handle The (that is, the samizdat poetry journal from the 90s)? |
19:48 | chris | im doubting its in nekls catalogue |
19:49 | Brooke | bet it's in Jar's |
19:49 | wizzyrea | dunno, we've got some crazy stuf int her |
19:49 | in there* | |
19:49 | jcamins | The NYPL is the only place I know for sure has it. |
19:49 | * jcamins | goes to search "The" in the NYPL catalog. |
19:49 | chris | try searching the the |
19:49 | sekjal | sounds like another must-have biblio record for the demo system |
19:50 | chris | as in the band |
19:50 | you cant find it in wellington city's catalogue | |
19:50 | * owen | tried 'the the' |
19:50 | jcamins | If you search for Title: The in the NYPL catalog, it comes up. |
19:50 | Well, kind of. | |
19:50 | Brooke | what's the point, NYPL is on III. |
19:50 | jcamins | It's hit eleven of twelve. |
19:51 | Brooke: I was curious. :P | |
19:51 | Brooke | those bastages have the radical american indian review.... |
19:51 | darling | i don't see why we should be rewarding that type of naming behaviour |
19:51 | chris | heh |
19:51 | jcamins | And we should be able to offer compelling features to persuade the NYPL to go with Koha next migration. |
19:52 | Such as "finally your patrons will be able to just type 'The' into the search box, and get the record they want." | |
19:52 | Brooke | don't know if their culture is cool enough for that kind of migration |
19:52 | chris | pull in the record from LOC |
19:52 | into koha, see what it does to it | |
19:52 | Brooke | Boston mebbe |
19:52 | jcamins | NYPL's Z39.50 works. |
19:53 | Oh, I guess it's hard to search for, huh? | |
19:53 | chris | if it has an issn |
19:53 | nope | |
19:54 | cait | perhaps a control number? |
19:54 | jcamins | A samizdat poetry journal with the title "The"? |
19:54 | Found it. | |
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19:55 | Brooke | bonjour |
19:56 | owen | If you title-search LOC for "the" you get "The system failed while performing your search." |
19:56 | chris | good old voyager |
19:57 | owen | Not only that you have to actually click the "start over" link or all your subsequent searches will fail too |
19:57 | Brooke | well, Sodom has it set poorly. |
19:58 | owen | In LOC's record for The the's "Soul mining," the band is identified as "The" |
19:58 | 710 2_ |a The (Musical group) | |
19:58 | chris | heh |
19:58 | when stopwords go bad | |
20:03 | cait | is there a solution? |
20:03 | jcamins | How do you enable relevance ranking with ccl? |
20:06 | chris | rank |
20:07 | check out etc/zebradb/ccl.properties | |
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20:07 | chris | rk will work too |
20:07 | http://opac.rhcl.org/cgi-bin/k[…]the+the%22&limit= | |
20:08 | hehe, typo | |
20:08 | wizzyrea | so surely it was on at some point |
20:08 | chris | i think its on in yours wizzyrea |
20:08 | wizzyrea | it appears to be |
20:09 | pastebot | "chris" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "# Rank Weights r1 9=32 r2 9=28" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/104 |
20:09 | wizzyrea | (I'm thinking in default installs) |
20:09 | chris | theres a ton of stuff in zebra we arent using |
20:09 | jcamins | Hrm. |
20:10 | Can't find "The." | |
20:10 | Or, rather, it probably did, but there are 52937 hits. | |
20:10 | Brooke | stopwords file? |
20:10 | chris | url jcamins ? |
20:10 | jcamins | http://donum.numismatics.org/c[…]q=ccl%3Dkw,rk:the |
20:10 | This query brings it up: http://donum.numismatics.org/c[…]q=american+poetry | |
20:11 | (so clearly it's been indexed) | |
20:22 | chris | try this |
20:22 | ccl=ti,complete-subfield,rk="the." | |
20:22 | actually ccl=ti,complete-subfield,rk=the. | |
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20:22 | chris | works too |
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20:23 | chris | there is a bunch more we can do with zebra, we just need to fix search.pm to be usable |
20:23 | jcamins | Nifty! |
20:23 | chris | have a look at etc/zebradb/ccl.properties |
20:24 | theres all sorts of neatness in there' | |
20:24 | * jcamins | did that and got totally confused and overwhelmed |
20:24 | chris | heh |
20:28 | jcamins | Ick, the dropdown automatically appends wrdl to indexes in the search box? |
20:29 | chris | appears to |
20:29 | which is st-word-list | |
20:30 | jcamins | Which in turn breaks complete-subfield. |
20:33 | There go my visions of being able to easily find books with common titles. | |
20:33 | chris | why? |
20:33 | just fix it ;) | |
20:33 | Brooke | easy words for Mr. Koha to utter. |
20:34 | chris | pshaw |
20:34 | if everyone took that attitude, id be the only one working on it | |
20:34 | Brooke | care to share how to fix it? |
20:34 | chris | if the dropdown is appending wrdl |
20:34 | stop it doing that | |
20:34 | done | |
20:34 | Brooke | there are a daunting number of switches to flip now. |
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21:34 | jcamins | Speak of the devil. |
21:34 | Here's yet another discussion of RDA. | |
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21:38 | wizzyrea | hi irma :) |
21:39 | jcamins | Good night, #koha, better leave before I get too snarky. |
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23:16 | chris | hi druthb |
23:16 | druthb | :) hi, chris |
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23:53 | rhcl | hudson, you need to start drinking Sanka |
23:54 | druthb | lol |
23:54 | * druthb | waves to rhcl. |
23:54 | rhcl | hihi |
23:57 | richard | tags question. does koha keep a record of who adds a tag? |
23:58 | chris | yes |
23:58 | richard | cool, thanks |
23:58 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away |
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