IRC log for #koha, 2010-11-14

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03:04 robin_ is there a high-quality/vector version of the koha logo around somewhere I can steal?
03:04 Brooke ho there robin
03:05 robin_ hi Brooke
03:05 wizzyrea_ I haven't seen one, though owen might have one
03:05 Brooke http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s_and_Explanation mebbe?
03:06 wizzyrea_ still a jpg :/
03:06 but a decent sized one
03:06 robin_ oh, that big one is perfect, thanks
03:06 Brooke my pleasure, sir
03:06 * robin_ is making slides for his Koha-related presentation as OSDC next week
03:07 wizzyrea_ aha
03:07 Brooke break a lef
03:07 leg even
03:08 robin_ cheers :)
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06:12 bigbrovar hi
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06:17 imran Hello
06:18 is there any support/activity for distributed databases with koha?
06:18 cassandra project
06:32 bigbrovar Hi guys after importing marc records to koha 3.2 and indexing I am unable to search items both on opac and staff client :(
06:36 at first I was getting this error http://pastebin.com/32rtBm9n so I had to manually create  zebradb/biblios/norm..LCK and zebradb/biblios/shadow..LCK  under /var/lock/koha which seems to stop the error showing and indexing seemed to run fine
06:40 This is the out put when I tried to index http://pastebin.com/hheNX2zy
06:41 everything seem to fine when imported marc record and added them to the catalog so it is really hard to understand why searching for items is not working
06:42 am using koha 3.2.0 on debian squeeze. I installed koha using the debian squeeze package for it
06:44 wasabi bigbrovar:  is your zebrasrv running?
06:48 bigbrovar wasabi:  http://pastebin.com/FmugBkC5
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06:49 brendan ah bigbrovar that looks like your zebrasrv is not running
06:50 wasabi ah… yep ;)
06:50 brendan hey wasabi
06:52 bigbrovar thanks how do I start it?
06:52 brendan there are instructions in the INSTALL docs
06:53 you probably have a permissions issue or you aren't starting it with the correct user
06:55 bigbrovar I installed using the debian package for squeeze and as far as I could tell the koha user is root using that method and I followed the install doc to the letter. I would go over it again to see if I missed anything
07:01 brendan: unfortunately there is no reference in the /usr/share/doc/koha/README.Debian or http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian (the wiki I used) on how to start zebrasrv
07:01 I also noticed it is not in the init.d script which means it is most likly not started with the system
07:02 brendan hmm.. going to go look at the one that installed from debian - it will be a minute
07:02 usually their is an init.d script
07:03 wasabi http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3316ab556;hb=HEAD
07:03 http://git.koha-community.org/[…];f=INSTALL.debian
07:04 232     $ sudo -u <kohauser> zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
07:04 brendan yup I've got a koha-zebra-daemon in there
07:05 bigbrovar yeah I have that too in our older instance of koha (3.0.6) which I installed from source on Ubuntu 8.04
07:06 but not on the debian install .. I might have to create it.
07:07 wasabi heya brendan :)
07:08 bigbrovar to think it would have been easier installing koha with a simple apt-get install I could have just gone the *hardway* and installed from source
07:08 wasabi fyi: ive yet to try out the squeeze-koha deb install, so im not much help
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07:09 wasabi bigbrovar:  it s only difficult the *1st* time :)
07:10 bigbrovar wasabi: Yeah I really regret not just installing from source. Ihave had to manually create many things which should have been setup doing install.
07:24 brendan: could u please pastebin me a copy of your zebradaemon init script so I could modify for my server. or is it safe to use ( and modify) the one I have on ubuntu 8.04 Koha 3.0.6
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08:30 bigbrovar guess I would have to start everything from scratch :(
08:39 * bigbrovar gosh this is soo frustrating as I watch 2 weeks work go down the drain
08:39 bigbrovar anyone knows of a good documentation on how to install koha 3.2 from scratch?
08:40 on debian
08:40 squeeze
08:53 chris bigbrovar: the squeeze packages do install the init.d script
08:54 we use the debian packages
08:55 but if you want to learn koha, installing from source is good
09:00 bigbrovar I realy dont know what went wrong with my install then. I followed the guide to the letter but i found zebreserve wont start and some directories were not created
09:00 when I tried to index i gave some errors
09:02 chris: the painful part was all this happened after I had read the 360 package manual and setup system preferences, libraries, item tyoe etc and imported marc. and even spoend the whole of yesterday doing css and branding work on opac
09:02 only to find searching doesnt work and then zebraserv was not running
09:03 trying to fix the problem showed many things where missing from the installation and I had to create them manually and now the system is completely broken it wont even show opac
09:04 its just a labour of love for a local school library here its really frustrating
09:04 chris hmm not sure what you did, but we run a bunch of libraries using the packages
09:04 * chris has to go to sleep now
09:06 bigbrovar well I guess documentation could be better. I don't have a deep knowledge of linux or even LMS but we have a working koha 3.0.6  which I installed from source using docs
09:06 * bigbrovar oh well time to go get a life
09:09 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Additional fix for Bug 4423 - Staff Client XSLT is just a copy of the OPAC one <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]90388fe618081b4d1>
09:13 hudsonbot Starting build 156 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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09:19 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5381' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]263040872e6ce19a7> / Bug 5381 - Fines in notices prints always 0.00 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5d6008b2fa912dbb9>
09:34 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #156: SUCCESS in 20 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]/Koha_Master/156/
09:34 * Owen Leonard: Additional fix for Bug 4423 - Staff Client XSLT is just a copy of the OPAC one
09:34 * Chris Nighswonger: Bug 5381 - Fines in notices prints always 0.00
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10:14 cait hi #koha :)
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11:10 cait hi magnus
11:10 spending your weekend at #koha? :)
11:10 magnus hi cait - yeah, and you too? ;-)
11:11 cait oh, I like this little place
11:11 but I thought you had a life :)
11:13 magnus nah, too much stuff that need to be done in too little time...
11:13 hope it will get better in 2011 though
11:13 cait magnus: hm not sure about that
11:14 I think things will be different, but we should not dream about more time ;)
11:14 magnus nah, but i will have fewer projects on the side (of koha) at least
11:14 cait :)
11:14 so you will have time to teach me perl?
11:15 ;)
11:15 nah, I really want to finish learning perl this year
11:15 and perhaps get a course or something next year
11:17 magnus i'm afraid u'm not the one to teach enyone perl...
11:17 there are some books on it, though...
11:17 s/u'm/i'm/
11:18 cait yep
11:18 I was refering to the "learning perl" book
11:18 :)
11:18 magnus ah...
11:19 robin_ cait: I've heard good things about "Learning Perl"
11:19 cait hi robin
11:20 yeah, I like how it is written - it's a time problem
11:20 robin_ I learned from "Programming Perl", which is a bit deep-endish if you haven't done much programming before.
11:20 cait as always :)
11:20 robin_ heh yes
11:20 cait I lack practice - I learned java basics for my distance study courses - but I have already forgotten most of it :(
11:21 magnus forgetting java is a good thing...
11:21 *hides*
11:21 cait not if you have more courses ahead
11:21 robin_ magnus: hey!
11:21 magnus hey robin_! ;-)
11:21 robin_ cait: then I suspect Learning is the best place to begin.
11:21 magnus: no talking smack about Java, tyvm :)
11:22 cait robin_: you like java?
11:22 robin_ I use it for a desktop app I develop.
11:22 cait tomcat doesn't like me - always get it to die on me
11:22 magnus sorry, i just couldn't let the opportunity pass me by...
11:23 robin_ ah, (in a former life) we had tomcat issues, solved them by moving to Glassfish.
11:23 magnus: :)
11:23 http://www.kallisti.net.nz/EMusicJ/HomePage/ <-- this is an app I write
11:24 magnus cool
11:24 with support from naxos?
11:25 robin_ magnus: they pay me to make customisations for them
11:25 magnus cool!
11:25 robin_ https://launchpad.net/emusicj <-- all the source lives here
11:26 in the past couple of years, they've cause the biggest number of improvements.
11:26 *caused
11:26 cait magnus: do you have an up to date master and can test 4924 for me?
11:26 I don't see the public note
11:28 hm, I don't even see it on the items tab
11:28 * cait gets more and more confused
11:28 cait robin_: cool :)
11:30 magnus cait: i can test on head.bibkat.no
11:30 robin_: yet another reason to like naxos, then ;-)
11:30 cait that would be nice - thank you1
11:31 robin_ magnus: indeed, even if I'm not a fan of classical. I tend to like the Norwegian metal ;)
11:31 magnus robin_: ooh, svartmetall?
11:32 cait ohoh
11:33 magnus: it' me - I confused public and internal notes...
11:33 * cait sighs
11:33 cait but robin's patch will fix that
11:34 robin++ and a cookie for fixing the internal note
11:34 hm, and sekjal++
11:35 magnus robin_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWmBRhVHOhg ;-)
11:36 robin_ magnus: emperor, mayhem, theatre of tragedy, that sort of thing
11:36 * robin_ looks
11:36 robin_ magnus: that is awesome
11:36 magnus yeah ;-)
11:37 robin_ oh yeah, dimmu borgir
11:38 ah, now I understand svartmetal :)
11:38 * robin_ is learning
11:39 magnus ;-)
11:39 cait magnus: now you have distracted him from fixing koha bugs
11:39 and made him learn norwegian
11:39 * cait shakes head
11:39 robin_ it's past midnight and I've had a few beers, never a good time for bug fixing.
11:40 cait wow right, it's 1 am for you
11:40 magnus cheers, mate! ;-)
11:41 robin_ ja, soon I should sleep :)
11:43 cait :)
11:44 magnus "ja" - another norwegian (and german) word!
11:45 robin_ magnus: and Dutch
11:45 magnus probably
11:45 robin_ (which is the only other language I come close to knowing anything about, aside from English and Māori)
11:48 cait :)
11:49 robin_ Welterusten, y'all :)
11:50 cait gute nacht robin :)
11:50 robin_ dankje
11:50 * cait whispers to magnus: what did he say?
11:51 robin_ (cait: het Nederlands is _right beside_ you)
11:52 magnus welterusten - i have no idea...
11:52 cait ok
11:52 so no change if he speaks nz english or dutch
11:53 magnus Welterusten = good night, according to teh googlez
11:53 robin_ it means "goodnight" in Nederlands. You people...
11:53 :)
11:53 magnus sorry bout that - europe is a small area with lots of languages... ;-)
11:54 cait yep, lots of languages
11:54 robin_ and it's only Reed who can't understand my English (that's what I keep saying to myself, anyway), and he's American, so he has an excuse ;)
11:54 cait to be fair, I could understand you most of the time
11:54 robin_ haha
11:55 I was slowing down for your benefit :) I can talk to locals so that it's not understood by English-as-a-second-language people quite happily :)
11:57 cait hmpf
11:57 magnus hehe english is fun
11:58 robin_ I guess you haven't met Glaswegian. I know it's the same language, but I can't understand it at all.
12:00 magnus that's the fun part
12:00 lots of different "versions"
12:00 robin_ (Or, if you have, maybe it sounded like Finnish, or something equally mad)
12:04 magnus i think i would recognize finnish, though
12:04 robin_ doesn't stop it from being mad.
12:05 (I'm pretty sure it's Finnish that is quite unlike any other language nearby)
12:05 If not, assume I was talking about one that is :)
12:05 anyway, ik zal later zie je. I really should sleep now.
12:06 magnus that would be finnish, yes
12:06 sleep tight, robin_
12:06 robin_ byebye!
12:07 magnus cait++ # for rebasing patches, getting them into master and closing bugs
12:07 * cait blushes
12:08 cait thx
12:09 you know, we librarians like it tidy and organized ;)
12:09 magnus hehe
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13:04 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5381 - Fines in notices prints always 0.00 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6deaa11076e4a2cd3> / Additional fix for Bug 4423 - Staff Client XSLT is just a copy of the OPAC one <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]58f4c8eeff4199841>
13:13 hudsonbot Starting build 38 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:34 Project Koha_3.2.x build #38: SUCCESS in 20 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/38/
13:34 * Owen Leonard: Additional fix for Bug 4423 - Staff Client XSLT is just a copy of the OPAC one
13:34 * Chris Nighswonger: Bug 5381 - Fines in notices prints always 0.00
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13:43 magnus hiya nengard
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13:43 magnus hiya druthb
13:43 nengard Howdy
13:43 druthb hi.  :)
13:43 cait hi druthb
13:43 magnus wassup!
13:43 nengard Waiting fir second airplane home
13:43 magnus sounds like fun!
13:43 druthb me, but just barely.  Just climbed out of bed a few minutes ago.
13:44 nengard Then home less than 24 hrs before I go out again
13:44 :(
13:44 magnus wow, i could not have done what you are doing, nengard
13:45 traveling once a month is enough for me
13:45 nengard I don't know if I can do what I'm doing
13:46 magnus druthb: good morning, then ;-)
13:46 druthb :)
13:46 cait nengard: hope you will have a break soon?
13:48 nengard Um.. january I think
13:53 cait uh
13:56 jcamins_a nengard++ # for sheer awesomeness
13:56 jcamins_a is now known as jcamins
13:57 nengard Heh
13:57 Sheer tiredness right now
13:58 Gotta say I like this irc app
13:58 magnus which one?
13:58 nengard Andchat
13:59 magnus for android, i guess?
13:59 nengard I was bored and I knew someone in Koha land would be awake to keep me company :)
13:59 Yes
13:59 * jcamins is writing a presentation
13:59 magnus the sun never sets on #koha...
14:00 nengard On what jcamins?
14:00 * magnus is trying to upgrade some 2.2.9 data to 3.2
14:00 cait jcamins: oh, should do that too :(
14:00 jcamins magnus: ewww!
14:00 magnus yeah...
14:00 nengard Magnus that is no fun
14:00 jcamins nengard: "Collecting Books Without Losing Your Sanity." I'm writing about the practical aspects of managing a book collection.
14:01 Extra bookshelves, LT, etc.
14:01 nengard Sounds like a fun topic!
14:01 jcamins It is. And the invitations are fantastic.
14:02 nengard I have over 800 books in practically no order...
14:02 magnus extra bookshelves sounds like a good idea...
14:02 jcamins If it weren't for the fact that you'll be traveling, I'd send you an invitation.
14:02 :)
14:02 nengard Invitations?
14:02 :(
14:02 Always travelling
14:03 jcamins I mean, I still could, but I don't imagine you'll be in the NYC area Dec 7.
14:03 The presentation I'm planning is part of a seminar I'm co-leading with a financial planner and an estate lawyer.
14:04 nengard Oh u talked about that.
14:04 magnus ooh, sounds like serious book collecting... :-)
14:04 nengard Yeah probably not around
14:04 jcamins magnus: oh yes, people take book collecting *very* seriously.
14:05 nengard U gonna come to my nylink open source day?
14:05 jcamins In Buffalo? It's a bit far.
14:05 nengard I forget the date :)
14:05 No
14:05 * druthb has a different collecting problem.  Big chunks of lumber that I haven't got around to doing things with yet.
14:05 nengard Nyc
14:05 jcamins Ooh!
14:05 nengard Next year
14:05 Druthb u can build me a new shed :)
14:06 jcamins March 8.
14:06 druthb: big chunks of lumber?
14:06 * druthb is a woodturner.
14:06 jcamins I'm not sure that Koha would be such a good choice for cataloging those.
14:06 nengard What is a woodturner?
14:06 magnus who knows? :-)
14:06 nengard Hehe
14:06 druthb Someone who takes bits of wood, and puts them on the lathe, and makes round things out of them.
14:07 nengard Oh! Never heard of it
14:07 jcamins Oh, I'm glad to see that Nylink got the tenses in your bio right. :)
14:07 magnus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodturning
14:07 nengard Hehe
14:07 druthb I turn wood-barrelled pens and mechanical pencils, keychains, fan pulls, small stuff, mostly.
14:08 nengard Cool. Do u have an etsy store?
14:08 magnus druthb: do you have a mini lathe for that?
14:08 druthb Not at the moment; I've got a bunch up on a page on Facebook (Trans-Formed Woodworks).  I'm adding about 25 more today.  :)
14:08 magnus:  yeah, a big one won't fit in my apartment.  :)
14:08 nengard Will look when I get home
14:08 magnus cool
14:09 druthb cait's seen my work.  :)
14:09 cait I own one of her pens :)
14:10 magnus http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100001741402033&v=photos
14:10 nengard I think someone near me is eating pizza at 8:30am
14:10 magnus looks beautiful - and i saw caits pen which was gorgeous!
14:10 druthb Thanks for the add, magnus!  :)
14:10 nengard Magnus link didn't work on phone
14:11 Stupid fb. Mobile
14:12 magnus nengard: try http://www.facebook.com/profil[…]d=100001741402033
14:13 nengard Added
14:14 druthb Thanks!
14:14 Now I'm going to have to hustle, and get new pics up. :)
14:14 nengard Hehe
14:14 jcamins That's very nifty, but you don't have any photos of your work yet? :(
14:15 nengard K boarding soon
14:15 druthb The pen that cait has has gone almost all the way around the world...here, to LA, to NZ, then back around to Germany.
14:15 nengard Will talk to u all later
14:15 druthb be safe, nengard.
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14:15 druthb jcamins:  There are some there, yes, and more being added today.
14:16 * magnus just did "sudo apt-get install koha" - that is teh awesome!
14:17 jcamins Oh, I see... it's a profile so I have to friend it.
14:17 druthb Hm..  Thought I had pictures open to everyone..
14:18 jcamins Once I friended the profile, the photos showed up, even though you haven't confirmed yet.
14:18 Some sort of bug, maybe.
14:18 Ooh, those are beautiful.
14:18 druthb Facebook?  Buggy?  Couldn't be..
14:18 Thanks! :)
14:19 jcamins It's a shame that I use very narrow pens.
14:19 druthb I have some that are very narrow; it's a little harder to carve that way, but they come out really nice.
14:20 There's one carved in Bethlehem olive wood that will be in today's batch of pictures.  Beautiful coffee-and-cream grain to it.
14:22 * magnus wanders off to make dinner
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14:27 jcamins My pen is 8mm in diameter, apparently. Equivalent to a size 11 knitting needle.
14:29 Ooh, you do use rosewood.
14:29 I was going to ask.
14:30 Brazilian *Koha*?
14:30 :)
14:36 druthb lol.  Koha and Koa...it's easy to fumble.  I do it all the time on my inventory sheet.
14:37 I see I did it twice..  Thanks for the catch.  :)
14:38 Rosewood is really nice to turn; it is very fine-grained, so you can do neat details without it splitting out or chipping.
14:38 * jcamins is disappointed... he really thought there was such a thing as Koha wood.
14:38 jcamins Rose wood is really nice to hold, too. Very warm.
14:39 druthb yep.  Not as heavy and dense as cocobolo or ebony, but a decent dense hardwood, unlike cedar or pine, which are practically unworkable for what I do.
14:42 The metal tube in the middle of these slim pens is 7 mm diameter, and the metal parts are just shy of 9 mm, so that kinda sets the lower limit on size for mine; when the wood gets that thin, it's pretty fragile.
14:43 * jcamins thinks he needs to find a 10mm pen to see whether he could get used to it
14:44 jcamins Are the pen cartridges replaceable?
14:46 druthb yes.  The twist pens use Cross-style refills, the clicks come with Parker gel ink.
14:52 I just added a couple of very slim ones, jcamins--2010-028, an olive wood, and 2010-043, in mahogany.  The mahogany is 10 mm at it's largest.
14:53 jcamins :)
14:53 Should I be concerned about the fact that I'm enjoying looking at office supplies?
14:54 druthb I can do just about any shape, in most any of the woods I work, so custom work is no problem--and I don't charge extra for that.
14:54 Naah!  Call it "art", if you want to soothe your conscience.  :)
14:56 I'm doing some experimenting toward some other small turnings; bottle stoppers, compact mirrors, little bowls and things, even buttons.  So far, I'm not happy enough with the outcomes to post pictures of them, but it's coming along.
15:00 jcamins I guess mechanical pencils are more difficult?
15:01 druthb Not much; the mechanism is self-contained, so not much problem there; the length of the wooden bits must be more precise for those.
15:01 I've got a bunch of pencils lined up in the works--just gotta get 'em finished and take pictures.
15:02 After I finish posting this batch of pics that I have, I've got some more fan pulls and keychains I'd like to knock out this weekend.
15:05 Early on, I had problems with the pencil mechanisms I was getting, so I stepped up to a little nicer brand; they cost a bit more, but I have a lot less trouble with them breaking down--almost never, now.
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15:16 druthb welcome back, magnus. :)
15:17 magnus thanks druthb
15:28 cait re
15:28 * druthb peers at cait quizzically.
15:31 cait hm?
15:31 druthb [10:45]<cait>re
15:32 cait oh
15:32 druthb @quote random
15:32 munin druthb: Quote #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon is to erm, use the belly of the hog (I think)" (added by chris at 05:37 PM, July 17, 2009)
15:32 cait something with returned I think
15:32 druthb @quote random
15:32 munin druthb: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 09:13 AM, June 12, 2009)
15:32 cait it was something I picked up in another channel a long time ago
15:32 druthb oh, okay. :)
15:32 @quote random
15:32 munin druthb: Quote #86: "<jcamins> Oops. Don't click mandatory on subfields for tags you've never heard of." (added by chris_n at 03:44 PM, July 19, 2010)
15:32 cait @quote random
15:32 munin cait: Quote #95: "< robin> to be honest, I think if you mention Koha and Perl, your CV could say your hobbies include puppy-kitten cage-fights, and you'd be snapped up :)" (added by chris at 05:36 PM, October 06, 2010)
15:34 druthb @roulette
15:34 munin druthb: *click*
15:34 druthb @roulette
15:34 munin druthb: *click*
15:34 druthb @roulette
15:34 munin *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
15:34 * munin reloads and spins the chambers.
15:34 druthb hee hee
15:35 @quote random
15:35 munin druthb: Quote #49: "wizzyrea: KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 11:20 AM, December 22, 2009)
15:37 * druthb has one more picture to get cropped and up, and then that little chore will be finished...
15:38 cait @roulette
15:38 munin *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
15:38 * munin reloads and spins the chambers.
15:38 cait why am i not surprised munin?
15:38 jcamins @roulette
15:38 munin jcamins: *click*
15:39 druthb pooor cait!
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15:50 druthb hi, hdl.  :)
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18:16 chris Morning
18:18 jcamins Morning.
18:20 chris How's the weekend going?
18:20 * jcamins still hasn't made any real progress on his seminar preparations, nor written any papers on the collation of Avant-Garde books, so... probably better not to ask. ;)
18:22 chris Hehe
18:22 Well mine is done, on the bus to work
18:29 * wasabi waves
18:29 chris Hey wasabi
18:31 jcamins chris: I think you have rather more practice delivering seminars than I do.
18:46 * jcamins suddenly realizes that chris was talking about his weekend, not his seminar preparations
18:47 cait jcamins: I have a draft - but nothing ready to show you :(
18:47 jcamins: will try to work on it in the mornings this week
18:47 and hi chris and wasabi
18:48 jcamins cait: take your time.
18:48 I think I'm going to go sit in the other room and knit now, because I'm accomplishing nothing in here. :(
18:49 cait knit?
18:49 why not bake cookies?
18:49 jcamins Because if I try to stuff any more baked goods in my freezer, it's going to throw a fit and start flinging fudge at me. :)
18:49 Plus, I have five dozen biscuits taking all available cooling space.
18:51 jcamins is now known as jcamins_a
18:51 jcamins_a I'll probably be back in an hour.
18:57 * cait wants access to jcamins' fridge...
19:04 chris heya cait
19:08 cait hey chris
19:08 how was the santa something?
19:08 chris santa parade? fun
19:08 its a very random parade
19:09 we had pikachu, darth vader, dora the explorer, sponge bob etc
19:09 kids love it though
19:10 cait sounds like fun :)
19:11 I know some of my friends would have loved to see the pikachu
19:13 chris hehe
19:13 i choose you, pikachu
19:15 cait hehe
19:16 I am sure I have still my pokemon league medals somewhere...
19:16 :)
19:17 chris hehe
19:22 gmcharlt @startmeeting
19:22 munin gmcharlt: Error: "startmeeting" is not a valid command.
19:23 richard joined #koha
19:23 richard hi
19:23 gmcharlt #startmeeting
19:23 munin Meeting started Sun Nov 14 19:41:12 2010 UTC.  The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:23 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
19:23 chris yay!
19:24 gmcharlt #topic determine, once and for all, the One True Flavor of ice cream
19:24 cait yay!
19:24 ... :)
19:24 richard very cool
19:25 gmcharlt #topic determine, once and for all, the One True Flavor of ice cream
19:25 Topic for #koha is now determine, once and for all, the One True Flavor of ice cream
19:25 chris #idea hey, we should use this
19:26 cait #agreed
19:27 gmcharlt #info there is no consensus on the best flavor of ice cream - we should fix this bug
19:28 #link http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot to see what this pseudo-meeting is all about
19:29 #action hold a global taste test to determine the best flavor
19:29 #endmeeting
19:29 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
19:29 munin Meeting ended Sun Nov 14 19:46:54 2010 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
19:29 Minutes:        koha/2010/koha.2010-11-14-19.41.html
19:29 Minutes (text): koha/2010/koha.2010-11-14-19.41.txt
19:29 Log:            koha/2010/koha.2010-11-14-19.41.log.html
19:31 chris hmm, whats the full url for that i wonder?
19:31 gmcharlt http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-11-14-19.41.html
19:31 yep, I'd need to configure it a bit
19:31 chris cool
19:31 antisirk pointed it out to me, it looks pretty nifty
19:32 wow, that is pretty cool
19:32 once people learn the commands
19:32 once again debian ftw!
19:32 richard left #koha
19:32 brendan_l :)
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19:46 gmcharlt #startmeeting
19:46 munin Meeting started Sun Nov 14 20:03:50 2010 UTC.  The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:46 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
19:46 gmcharlt #meetingname test meeting
19:46 munin The meeting name has been set to 'test_meeting'
19:46 gmcharlt #topic testing MeetBot configuration
19:46 Topic for #koha is now testing MeetBot configuration
19:46 gmcharlt #info only a test
19:46 #link http://debian.org/
19:47 #action finish meeting and check results
19:47 #endmeeting
19:47 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
19:47 chris #idea we should have a practice meeting and invite people to learn the commands
19:47 doh too late
19:47 before we do a real meeting with it anyway ;)
19:49 * chris will brb
19:51 gmcharlt #startmeeting
19:51 munin gmcharlt: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
19:51 gmcharlt #endmeeting
19:51 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
19:51 gmcharlt #startmeeting
19:51 munin gmcharlt: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
19:51 gmcharlt #endmeeting
19:51 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
19:52 gmcharlt #endmeeting
19:52 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
19:53 gmcharlt #endmeeting
19:53 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
19:53 gmcharlt #endmeeting
19:53 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
19:54 gmcharlt #endmeeting
19:54 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
19:55 gmcharlt #endmeeting
19:55 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
19:55 gmcharlt #endmeeting
19:55 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
19:56 gmcharlt #endmeeting
19:56 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
19:58 chris heh
19:59 gmcharlt it's crashing at that point, in case you're wondering
20:00 chris figured :)
20:00 slef++ # for the wiki tidyup
20:26 jcamins_a cait: you'll be glad to know I survived being bombarded by fudge
20:26 cait jcamins_a: I am really glad - you can't leave me alone with marc analytics :)
20:26 * cait picks some fudge from jcamins
20:26 jcamins_a is now known as jcamins
20:27 * jcamins shares raspberry chocolate fudge with #koha
20:27 cait mmmmh
20:27 :)
20:28 chris yum!
20:28 i still have some licorice from kohacon to eat, i shoudl find that
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20:29 druthb hi, #koha.
20:29 * jcamins hands druthb a piece of raspberry chocolate fudge
20:29 chris heya druthb
20:29 cait hi druthb :)
20:29 chris hows sunday treating ya?
20:30 * druthb nibbles on the fudge.
20:30 druthb Fairly busy, but in a good way.  Just back from an LGBT task force meeting at a nearby church...gonna do some turning here shortly, maybe.
20:30 chris ahh cool
20:32 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:32 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:33 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:33 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:33 * druthb wonders if gmcharlt ever actually isn't here.
20:33 saorge left #koha
20:34 jcamins druthb: I'm pretty sure the answer to that is "no."
20:34 cait druthb: chris and gmcharlt are super heros or something - they can do crazy things with perl and don't need to sleep
20:34 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:34 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:35 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:35 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:36 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:36 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:36 * druthb peers at gmcharlt quizzically.
20:36 gmcharlt druthb: testing something I'm doing with munin
20:36 sorry for the noise
20:37 druthb oh, okay.  just wondered if you were stuck in a loop, maybe.
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20:44 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:44 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:44 chris so it changes the topic back to what it was before the meeting?
20:44 thats pretty cool
20:44 gmcharlt yes
20:45 #endmeeting
20:45 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:45 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:45 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:46 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:46 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:47 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:47 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:47 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:47 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:47 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:47 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:49 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:49 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:50 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:50 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:51 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:51 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:51 munin left #koha
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20:52 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:53 #endmeeting
20:53 #startmeeting
20:53 munin Meeting started Sun Nov 14 21:10:52 2010 UTC.  The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:53 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
20:53 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:53 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:53 munin Meeting ended Sun Nov 14 21:10:59 2010 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
20:53 Minutes:        http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-11-14-21.10.html
20:53 Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]0-11-14-21.10.txt
20:53 Log:            http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]14-21.10.log.html
20:55 gmcharlt #startmeeting
20:55 munin Meeting started Sun Nov 14 21:12:51 2010 UTC.  The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:55 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
20:55 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:55 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:55 munin Meeting ended Sun Nov 14 21:12:53 2010 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
20:55 Minutes:        http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-11-14-21.12.html
20:55 Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]0-11-14-21.12.txt
20:55 Log:            http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]14-21.12.log.html
20:55 chris sweet
20:55 gmcharlt not quite there
20:55 chris_n has munin gone power-crazy? ;-)
20:56 gmcharlt #startmeeting
20:56 munin Meeting started Sun Nov 14 21:13:43 2010 UTC.  The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:56 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
20:56 gmcharlt #meetingname test
20:56 munin The meeting name has been set to 'test'
20:56 gmcharlt #endmeeting
20:56 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
20:56 munin Meeting ended Sun Nov 14 21:13:53 2010 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
20:56 Minutes:        http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-11-14-21.13.html
20:56 Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]0-11-14-21.13.txt
20:56 Log:            http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]14-21.13.log.html
20:56 gmcharlt finally
20:57 jcamins gmcharlt: what's different about the last time?
20:58 gmcharlt jcamins: the meeting name (assigned by #meetingname) is now in the file name of the log
20:58 jcamins Ah.
21:16 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Use_LDAPS_RFC
21:18 and http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]/template_toolkit
21:20 cait :)
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22:12 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5210, back button on batch modification result page useless <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ef4954d6e70ba36b8>
22:13 hudsonbot Starting build 157 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:13 cait oh no
22:13 more things to test
22:13 :)
22:15 chris heh
22:15 that ones easy, is the back button gone, oh it is
22:15 done ;)
22:16 cait okok
22:16 :)
22:22 * druthb heads out for some dinner with his daughters.
22:22 corrects her own pronouns.
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22:32 hdl left #koha
22:34 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #157: SUCCESS in 20 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]/Koha_Master/157/
22:34 Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5210, back button on batch modification result page useless
22:44 cait !hudson botsnack carrots
22:44 hudsonbot cait: you're so kind to me! I really like that carrots
22:44 cait hehe
22:56 time to sleep
22:56 good night #koha
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23:09 chris hi Brooke
23:09 * Brooke salutes Chris with respect
23:09 Brooke Kia Ora
23:12 chris lol
23:12 what'd i do now?
23:12 Brooke nuffin
23:13 though I must say Galen is in the dog house for having an unannounced Ice Cream meeting.
23:13 chris heh
23:13 * Brooke glares at gmcharlt
23:13 gmcharlt well in my defence, I did at least call for a global taste test
23:13 ;)
23:14 Brooke not to mention in classic Community fashion naught was decided. *duck*
23:15 gmcharlt heh
23:15 * jcamins votes for ginger ice cream
23:16 Brooke oooh, you're evil.
23:16 * Brooke is really starting to like jcamins...
23:17 jcamins Brooke: have you ever had ginger ice cream? It's wonderful.
23:17 Brooke stop teasing.
23:17 jcamins Sadly, Haagen Dazs no longer seems to make it...
23:17 Brooke just by their vanilla and mash in some and chuck it back in the freezer
23:18 think I need to convince Balducci's they needs carry high test ginger beer.
23:18 jcamins Heh.
23:18 I like the way you're thinking. :)
23:18 Brooke warning: there are many unresolved error messages in the confines of me pea sized brain
23:19 jcamins Ooh! They still sell it in CT!
23:19 Brooke noice
23:19 jcamins And Allentown, PA.
23:20 * Brooke swears at having Billy Joel replace Karen Casey in her head.
23:22 * jcamins is feeling subversive today... he's watching part 8 of Man With the Movie Camera before part 7.
23:22 Brooke heheh
23:22 don't come anywhere near me house or I'll have you sort through beads for your insolence
23:26 chris http://twitpic.com/36xxma
23:26 Brooke :)
23:27 jcamins :)
23:27 Brooke one of my Spanish speaking lab students asked after the pronunciation of Noam
23:36 * chris ducks out to grab some lunch bbiab
23:41 robin hi kohans
23:47 jcamins Brooke: a... linguistics lab?
23:47 Brooke nope, computer lab
23:47 this was a good bit back, now
23:55 chris back
23:56 Brooke welcome back

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