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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:05 | slef | I wasn't going to reply to david lang's last email, but I couldn't resist the idea of us owning PTFS. |
| 00:05 | chris | he is a bit trolly |
| 00:05 | i wish he'd put the same effort into using or working on koha | |
| 00:06 | as he does leaping on contentious issues on the mailing list | |
| 00:06 | and yes that was excellent ;) | |
| 00:07 | slef | publicly, I look similar... I really am making progress unscrewing our git trees though, I swear |
| 00:07 | chris | heh, i saw your gitorious stuff :) and the EDI stuff |
| 00:07 | slef | I must remember to make sure I clone everything to London before I go, as Somerset will be powered off. |
| 00:07 | chris | ah yeah |
| 00:08 | that would be annoying :) | |
| 00:08 | chris_n | slef++ # koha foundation owning ptfs... heh |
| 00:08 | * chris_n | knows just what he would vote to do first |
| 00:08 | slef | chris_n: shed a few staff? |
| 00:09 | chris_n | bingo |
| 00:09 | slef | does [off] still work? |
| 00:09 | chris | ill look |
| 00:10 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/today | |
| 00:10 | slef | only at start of line |
| 00:10 | bah I don't care | |
| 00:10 | chris | :) |
| 00:10 | slef | I've had worse. |
| 00:11 | chris_n | it was a lame attempt a civility :) |
| 00:11 | slef | right, time to pass out - long day ahead tomorrow |
| 00:11 | chris | sleep well |
| 00:11 | chris_n | g'night |
| 00:11 | slef | I'm wondering about moving to 36 hour days ready for the flight :) |
| 00:13 | oh wait | |
| 00:13 | I'm sure I know that college from somewhere. | |
| 00:14 | chris | fol de rol |
| 00:15 | slef | I think I'll reply off-list. |
| 00:15 | chris | probably wise |
| 00:15 | he must be only doing it for attention | |
| 00:42 | slef | Someone else can correct PTFS's Amy on the foundation/association thing. I'm gone and feel like I'm talking to brick walls. |
| 00:42 | bbl | |
| 00:43 | chris | yeah |
| 00:46 | * chris_n | thinks ptfs owes the community an apology prior to anyone engaging with them in foundations/whatever dialog |
| 00:47 | slef | for which action? |
| 00:47 | chris | id take one for any of them |
| 00:47 | as a start | |
| 00:48 | slef | seriously, gone |
| 00:54 | chris | yeah, i'm not answering that email, and i hope no one else does |
| 00:55 | richard is now known as rich-away | |
| 00:56 | rich-away is now known as richard | |
| 00:57 | chris_n | well |
| 00:57 | so much for hope, eh? | |
| 00:58 | chris | heh, it was fairly forlorn :) |
| 00:58 | at least it was a decent answer | |
| 01:00 | chris_n | *nod* |
| 01:00 | has anyone tried running koha over MariaDB (http://mariadb.org/)? | |
| 01:00 | it advertises as a drop-in replacement for mysql | |
| 01:01 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 01:01 | jcamins | chris_n: I was just about to ask that. |
| 01:01 | chris | no but we should |
| 01:01 | in fact | |
| 01:01 | i will | |
| 01:01 | chris_n | we could get multi-db support instantly |
| 01:01 | chris | and drizzle |
| 01:01 | chris_n | and promote a much more foss db in the process |
| 01:02 | chris | the drizzle developers are smart smart people |
| 01:02 | jcamins | chris_n: I'm not quite sure that's really multi-db. |
| 01:02 | ;) | |
| 01:02 | chris | https://launchpad.net/drizzle |
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| 01:02 | chris_n | multi in the sense of "more than one" :) |
| 01:02 | chris | but yes, i think that would be a fun developer conference thing to play with |
| 01:03 | jcamins | chris_n: I guess... I feel like drop-in replacements don't count. |
| 01:03 | chris | id take getting rid of mysql |
| 01:03 | :) | |
| 01:03 | chris_n | what id really like to see is db agnostic code |
| 01:03 | jcamins | Me too! |
| 01:04 | chris | step one in 3.4 |
| 01:04 | chris_n | can you spell "abstraction"? |
| 01:04 | jcamins | Of course, then I'd use the db-agnostic code to use MySQL, since that's the flavor of SQL I'm familiar with, but it's the principle of the thing. |
| 01:04 | chris | can you spell 'do it properly or die a horrible death of slow sql' |
| 01:04 | chris_n | hehe |
| 01:04 | * chris_n | favors pg |
| 01:04 | jcamins | chris: yes. "ODBC" |
| 01:05 | chris_n | because of maturity |
| 01:05 | chris | but DBIx::Class::Schema |
| 01:05 | ODBC isnt much more abstract than the DBI we have now jcamins | |
| 01:05 | i have deployed Koha on pg using the schema generated by that | |
| 01:05 | jcamins | chris: I was spelling "do it properly or die a horrible death of slow sql." :P |
| 01:05 | chris | jcamins: ahh :) |
| 01:06 | jcamins | That was the dying a horrible death. |
| 01:06 | chris | i was thinking tangram |
| 01:06 | and other object layer abstractions over sql | |
| 01:06 | my pg deploy stopped when loading in the data | |
| 01:06 | but i got a db created | |
| 01:07 | using DBIx::Class::Schema | |
| 01:07 | just have to fix our mysqlisms in the data we load | |
| 01:07 | and we are most of the way to being able to run it under either | |
| 01:07 | robin | oh, and some of those horrible queries, too |
| 01:07 | chris | that too :) |
| 01:08 | but those are easy to pick off once the donkey work of standing it up is done | |
| 01:08 | chris_n | horrible_queries-- |
| 01:08 | chris | robin: srdjan can fix all those for us : |
| 01:08 | ) | |
| 01:08 | robin | well, methods that issues many more queries than they should |
| 01:08 | apparently like GetItem | |
| 01:08 | chris | *nod* |
| 01:08 | yep | |
| 01:08 | * chris_n | hates the ones that fetch * data when you only need a few rows |
| 01:08 | robin | chris: my plan also :) |
| 01:10 | * chris_n | heads off to find sleep |
| 01:10 | chris | night |
| 01:11 | jcamins | Good night. |
| 01:13 | I should have skipped reading my e-mail this evening, shouldn't I? | |
| 01:14 | chris | yeah :) |
| 01:18 | * robin | really hates that MARC::Field *requires* that you give it values when you create a new one. Although I guess it makes it harder to make invalid MARC. |
| 01:19 | jcamins | robin: why would you want to create fields with no values? |
| 01:19 | robin | jcamins: because I want to create a field, and then loop over an array and fill it up. |
| 01:20 | As it is, I need to make logic that handles the first case specially. | |
| 01:21 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 01:24 | * jcamins | sighs |
| 01:24 | jcamins | I know there was something I needed to do tonight. |
| 01:26 | chris | ttp://openlib.org/home/krichel/ |
| 01:26 | hmm http://openlib.org/home/krichel/ even | |
| 01:26 | interesting guy | |
| 01:26 | your neck of the woods jcamins | |
| 01:26 | jcamins | Yeah, he's a professor at the library school I just graduated from. |
| 01:27 | chris | oh cool |
| 01:27 | jcamins | Well, just finished. |
| 01:27 | Technically, I won't have graduated until December, but I sent in my graduation application, so I feel like I'm done. | |
| 01:28 | chris | http://openlib.org/home/krichel/visitor/nyc/ |
| 01:28 | what a neat idea | |
| 01:29 | jcamins | He teaches a class on administering Koha. |
| 01:29 | chris | very cool |
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| 02:15 | wasabi | robin: re: MARC::field i have the same stupid problem too |
| 02:15 | robin | wasabi: it makes sense in some ways, but that doesn't stop it being annoying |
| 02:16 | wasabi | it makes coding much harder, using marc::field :/ |
| 02:17 | my fix was to create a new field with a dummy x => 'xxx' tag | |
| 02:17 | robin | yeah. Although, I think designing around it tends to give me more robust code, that won't do things like add en empty field to a record. |
| 02:17 | I also did that :) | |
| 02:17 | wasabi | then use a sub() to remove those dummy tags, afaik |
| 02:18 | cool, nice to confirm the problem/solution wasnt just me :) | |
| 02:22 | robin | heh |
| 02:24 | * jcamins | still can't remember what he is supposed to be doing tonight. |
| 02:31 | robin | yay, my csvtomarc converter can now handle having a seperate CSV file that contains the items to attach to the biblios. |
| 02:32 | jcamins | How do you relate the two CSVs? |
| 02:32 | robin | --itemlink 'ID=ID' |
| 02:32 | so, a column called ID in one matches a column ID in the other | |
| 02:33 | jcamins | Ah. Very sensible. |
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| 03:14 | Oak | \o |
| 03:17 | Amit | heya chris |
| 03:17 | brendan | heya amit |
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| 07:08 | magnus | g'day #koha! D-4! |
| 07:10 | Oak | peace be on you magnus |
| 07:11 | magnus | thanks, and the same to (on?) you, Oak |
| 07:11 | Oak | :) |
| 07:13 | well, I should have said: peace be upon you | |
| 07:15 | magnus | it was a very nice greeting anyway... ;-) |
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| 07:58 | ivanc | hi #koha |
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| 08:34 | magnus | hiya ivanc |
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| 08:46 | magnus | paul_p++ # for the last couple of messages to the list |
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| 08:49 | ivanc | ciao magnus |
| 08:51 | Barrc | Does anyone know if Koha LDAP authentication can use SSL? |
| 08:51 | paul_p | hi magnus & al |
| 08:51 | magnus | bonjour paul_p |
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| 08:55 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 08:56 | David | good morning! |
| 08:56 | cait | hi David |
| 08:56 | magnus | good morning David and cait |
| 08:57 | cait | hi magnus :) |
| 08:57 | David | I have a question. I've newly installed koha. When I try to view the page, it sends me to /cgi-bin/koha/maintenance.pl but does not display a webpage. Any place I should check for the error? |
| 08:58 | cait | have you run the web installer? |
| 08:59 | add port :8080 to your url | |
| 08:59 | to log into the intranet or to start the web installer :) | |
| 08:59 | there is also a sys pref that activates that screen, i think it's called OpacMaintenance | |
| 09:04 | David | Ah. Lets say that I was accessing the server remotely. WOuld I change the koha-httpd.conf to read *:8080 rather than 127.0.0.1:8080? |
| 09:04 | cait | no |
| 09:04 | there should already be to virtual hosts | |
| 09:05 | one for 80 = opac and one for :8080 for intranet | |
| 09:05 | you need both urls to work with koha | |
| 09:05 | oh | |
| 09:05 | sorry, perhaps I misunderstood you | |
| 09:05 | still not really awake here :) | |
| 09:06 | I am not sure about the right settings in the conf file - I normally get it working, but I don't know how to trouble shoot it | |
| 09:06 | if you can access the opac you should be able to access the intranet too | |
| 09:06 | perhaps you need to add Listen 8080 to your apache conf file | |
| 09:08 | David | I think I actually need to use the serveralias of intranet.asdf.com Would that make sense? |
| 09:10 | cait | sorry David - as I said, I don't know much about it |
| 09:10 | David | I appreciate the help anyway :D |
| 09:11 | cait | my coworker takes care of your real installations and I normally only change the ip in the file when I do a dev install on my laptop :) |
| 09:12 | which os are you using? | |
| 09:13 | perhaps one of the installation files in the wiki can help you | |
| 09:16 | David | Debian |
| 09:16 | I'm about to upgrade to squeeze just to get the rpm, lol. | |
| 09:22 | cait | I am using ubuntu, so not sure about the differences to debian |
| 09:22 | have you added the listen 8080 to your apache conf file? | |
| 09:22 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu | |
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| 09:31 | David | Debian is pretty damn close (w/o the need to sudo all the time ;) ) |
| 09:31 | I just added that to the apache conf file and now I'm waiting for my CNAME to go live | |
| 09:31 | cait | ok, time to go |
| 09:32 | hope it works! | |
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| 09:33 | David | Hooray! Thank you cait! It worked so well!! |
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| 09:34 | laurenthd | slef: is there any patch you would like me to consider in 3.0 ? |
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| 09:39 | Oak | that link is broken: http://www.library.org.nz/koha.htm |
| 09:39 | David | what is the default username and password and/or where is conf.xml? |
| 09:40 | in /etc/ nice | |
| 10:07 | so the OPAC is the public search portal? | |
| 10:07 | magnus | David: yup |
| 10:08 | David | lets say I wanted to rerun the installer. How would I do that? |
| 10:10 | I just really want to repopulate the zebra database with the example data | |
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| 10:25 | David | So to rerun the installer, I need to drop the databases? |
| 10:30 | Barrc | David: You will new to manually create the database and assign permission after you drop it and before you re-run the installer |
| 10:41 | David | I now have my first Koha system up! Thank you everyone! |
| 10:42 | Barrc | Does anyone have any thoughts or opinions (or ever used/heard) of Greenstone? (not the correct place to be asking, but just curious if any Koha users are also using it) |
| 10:42 | Well done Daivd, have fun! | |
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| 10:52 | David | Will Koha support foreign alphabets? |
| 10:54 | Кгыышфт ащк учфьзду? | |
| 10:59 | ebegin | David, it already does |
| 10:59 | David | ebegin - Great news! |
| 11:00 | ebegin | Which language was the text you send us? |
| 11:00 | David | It was in russian (I just typed an english phrase though) |
| 11:04 | Good night! | |
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| 11:26 | laurenthd | hi jwagner |
| 11:26 | jwagner | Morning |
| 11:26 | (or afternoon, or whatever...) | |
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| 12:04 | chris_n | heya owen |
| 12:04 | owen | Hi |
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| 12:52 | laurenthd | hi chris_n |
| 12:57 | chris_n | hey laurenthd |
| 13:00 | laurenthd | has anyone had time to try and test our wip_removeitems ? |
| 13:07 | jwagner | laurenthd, is that the one in Bug 3597 or a new/extended one? |
| 13:07 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3597 blocker, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, "Delete all items" doesn't check issues |
| 13:08 | laurenthd | oh this has been done iirc on our master. |
| 13:09 | I should definitely rebase | |
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| 13:23 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 13:27 | braedon|1 | morning |
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| 13:27 | owen | Only technically morning for you isn't it braedon? |
| 13:28 | braedon | :) |
| 13:28 | the night is still young | |
| 13:28 | plenty of time left to muck around on the internet | |
| 13:29 | jcamins | Ah, to be in Uni again. :P |
| 13:29 | braedon | not for long. just finished my last uni assignment |
| 13:29 | jcamins | Congratulations! |
| 13:30 | * owen | didn't have internet in college :P |
| 13:33 | jcamins | I guess this isn't a joke, since slef wrote it, but is anyone else amused by the latest addition to the NISO CORE protocol page on the wiki? "Koha users would like to connect to * MYOB - mind your own business"? |
| 13:34 | slef | hehe, I didn't notice the double meaning |
| 13:35 | jcamins | It was just the thing I needed to start my morning off. :) |
| 13:36 | * owen | seems to be spending his morning being a patch-kibitzer |
| 13:36 | * slef | seems to be spending his whole day being a todo-wrangler |
| 13:37 | * jcamins | seems to spend all his time being a problem-finder |
| 13:38 | jcamins | Oops. That should have been "to be spending." |
| 13:38 | braedon | tsk tsk, broke the combo |
| 13:38 | * slef | hands jcamins copy and paste - easier on GNU/Linux |
| 13:40 | jcamins | Well, my nick is also two characters longer, so it wouldn't have looked right anyway. |
| 13:40 | At least "spend" lined up. | |
| 13:57 | * chris_n | never can seem to get spending to line up |
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| 14:01 | owen | Hi Sharon and collum |
| 14:02 | Sharon | Good morning |
| 14:02 | jcamins | Good morning. |
| 14:03 | owen | Sharon will you be playing the part of wizzyrea this morning? |
| 14:03 | * jcamins | suddenly realizes that he is authorizing the form "Greek--Asia Minor" without feeling at all ill. |
| 14:04 | jcamins | I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. |
| 14:04 | Sharon | I'm not worthy |
| 14:04 | Thought I should hang out though, lonely here in the office all by myself | |
| 14:05 | gmcharlt | jcamins: free yourself from the chains! |
| 14:05 | * owen | wonders how much this book overlaps with nengard's: http://www.infotoday.com/books[…]r-Libraries.shtml |
| 14:06 | Sharon | think we need to get both for our prof. coll. |
| 14:07 | jcamins | owen: I don't know. I don't recall hearing about that book at all. |
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| 14:07 | * owen | found it in a piece of infotoday junk mail |
| 14:08 | jcamins | Ah, that would be why. |
| 14:08 | * jcamins | doesn't read anything from InfoToday. |
| 14:09 | jcamins | No, that's not true. I skim the SLA's newsletter which is published by InfoToday. |
| 14:09 | Sharon | so nobody going to Internet Librarian? |
| 14:10 | jcamins | ... I guess IL is around now? |
| 14:10 | Sharon | next week? |
| 14:10 | I haven't been since 2008 | |
| 14:10 | jcamins | I had no idea. I'd think nengard would be going, but maybe it conflicts with Kohacon? |
| 14:15 | collum | Good morning owen and everyone. |
| 14:55 | ebegin | Good day #koha! |
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| 14:57 | ebegin | Am I correct when I say that the search by date uses only the content of field 008 and doesn't care of @marc 260 c |
| 14:57 | @marc 260 c | |
| 14:57 | munin | ebegin: Date of publication, distribution, etc. May contain multiple dates (e.g., dates of publication and copyright). (Repeatable) |
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| 14:57 | ebegin | @marc 008 |
| 14:57 | munin | ebegin: This field contains 40 character positions (00-39) that provide coded information about the record as a whole and about special bibliographic aspects of the item being cataloged. These coded data elements are potentially useful for retrieval and data management purposes. [] |
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| 15:26 | Barrc | Does anyone know if Z39.50 searches are logged anywhere? (3.006) I can't get any ISBN hits via Z39.50 from Koha but can from yaz client on another PC to the same source? |
| 15:31 | gmcharlt | Barrc: errors, at least, woudl show up in the Apache log |
| 15:32 | slef | Barrc: try searching from yaz client on Koha PC. |
| 15:32 | Barrc | It's not that its errors, Title and Subject return fine, ISBN get no hits, even though the use attributes seem fine.....can't see anything in apache log |
| 15:33 | slef: I did, it's the same problem. No ISBN search but all other indexes are fine. | |
| 15:33 | Not really a Koha problem then, I suppose! | |
| 15:36 | jcamins | Barrc: what target are you searching? |
| 15:37 | Barrc | I have tried a few, loc.gov and a subscribed server from BDS in the UK, both return fine from other clients |
| 15:37 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 15:38 | That's strange. I didn't think LC supported ISBN at all. | |
| 15:39 | Barrc | OK, don't hold me to that ISBN test aginst the LC, I had someone else test it.....suppose I should run it myself to make sure! |
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| 15:52 | fcapo | Hello, I isolated my problem with the link_bibs_to_authorities.pl script : it seems the authority search always fails if query limiters are used. |
| 15:53 | Barrc | OK, it seems, and I've tried this from the demo Z39.50 source that come with koha, that I can't get any ISBN results......can anyone confirm they can? |
| 15:53 | fcapo | If I comment the line "$query .= $self->_query_limiters();" line in C4/Heading.pm, link_bibs_to_authorities.pl seems to link my authorities correctly. |
| 15:54 | owen | slef still around? |
| 15:54 | chris_n | fcapo: have you opened a bug report? |
| 15:55 | fcapo | Not yet |
| 15:56 | laurenthd | Barrc: which marc flavour are you in ? |
| 15:56 | Barrc | Marc21 |
| 15:57 | laurenthd | which is your z3950 target flavour ? |
| 15:57 | Barrc | Yep, looking at the return records from a yaz-client the records are Marc21 too, and I can see the ISBN where it should be |
| 15:57 | chris_n | fcapo: might be good to and include the info you just posted |
| 15:57 | fcapo | Just wanted to make sure it was really a bug. Right now, if " AND at='self->{auth_type}' '" is added at the end of my authority search query, the search always returns 0 results |
| 15:57 | Barrc | just can't get any hits on ISBN |
| 15:58 | chris_n | fcapo: don't worry, the worst that will happen will be a "works for me" staus |
| 15:58 | status, even | |
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| 15:59 | chris_n | but please feel free to open a bug any time |
| 15:59 | fcapo | Yea, but I<m not sure it works "correctly" for me right now. I think it ignores the auth_type of the biblio field. And that's bad. |
| 16:00 | slef | owen: yes but busy :-/ |
| 16:00 | owen | slef: I @replied to you via Twitter, re: EDI link being broken |
| 16:01 | slef | @later tell wizzyrea please unlock "For Librarians" and "Worldwide" pages for me to edit (want to add link to Users list to those) |
| 16:01 | munin | slef: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:01 | slef | owen: I bet I know what I've done. |
| 16:02 | owen: fixed. I'd left it in draft mode. | |
| 16:02 | (= only members can view) | |
| 16:02 | owen: thanks for that. owen++ | |
| 16:03 | owen | I think it's a really exciting announcement. I love seeing that kind of collaboration. |
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| 16:10 | braedon | night, and have a good weekend #koha |
| 16:13 | chris_n | ouch... anybody else see something wrong with this page: http://koha-community.org/?s=test |
| 16:13 | * chris_n | nudges owen to look |
| 16:14 | braedon | part of a comment at the bottom? |
| 16:14 | chris_n | the entire page layout is messed up here |
| 16:15 | * braedon | doesn't know what it is supposed to look like, but it does seem off |
| 16:15 | chris_n | it probably should look similar to the home page |
| 16:16 | @later tell wizzyrea is http://koha-community.org/?s=test messed up or is it me? | |
| 16:16 | munin | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:16 | Oak | Looks messed up in 3.6.10 |
| 16:17 | Looks ok in Opera 10.61 and Chrome | |
| 16:17 | braedon | hmm, that comment close is actually just in the code |
| 16:17 | </div> <!-- #sidebar --> --> </div> <!-- #main --> | |
| 16:17 | Oak | Chrome 5.0.375.127 |
| 16:18 | braedon | Messed in firefox4b8pre |
| 16:18 | Oak | There is no "Event Calendar" appearing in Chrome and Opera |
| 16:19 | * chris_n | wonders how it looks in internet exploder |
| 16:19 | Oak | In Firefox "Event Calendar" is in right column and is going out of page boundary causing a long horizontal scroll bar |
| 16:22 | braedon | firefox4, right column not formed properly, and only contains results list |
| 16:23 | ahh, there would be the problem | |
| 16:24 | a quote start has been put on the line opening the sidebar div | |
| 16:24 | <!-- <div id="sidebar"> | |
| 16:24 | presumably its end is the random end quote further down | |
| 16:25 | so looks like someone has tried to block comment the sidebar | |
| 16:25 | Oak | Firefox http://img143.imageshack.us/i/23545403.jpg/ |
| 16:26 | IE8 http://img87.imageshack.us/i/ie8c.jpg/ | |
| 16:27 | fcapo | Is there any doc on how to build SimpleSearch queries correctly? |
| 16:27 | braedon | Oak: firefox4 is closer to that ie8 |
| 16:27 | Oak | hmm |
| 16:28 | my screen shots were taken using Adobe Browser Lab | |
| 16:28 | braedon | Oak: do you have firefox3.6? |
| 16:28 | Oak | yup |
| 16:29 | Looks same as in screen shots | |
| 16:29 | braedon | can you check the source, and see where the code highlighting ends the quote that starts at the sidebar div? |
| 16:29 | slef | chris_n: looks like a theme error. I don't have access to investigate. |
| 16:29 | Oak | ok |
| 16:30 | braedon | slef: looks to me like some content is prematurely terminating a quote around the sidebar |
| 16:30 | but being a pre beta browser, not sure | |
| 16:31 | seems to be terminating on "...Last changed date Thu 16:40 […]'>" | |
| 16:32 | s/quote/comment/ | |
| 16:33 | sorry :P | |
| 16:33 | slef | braedon: that is also possible, but it seems to happen all the time for me, so it may be a theme-fu |
| 16:33 | braedon | should the sidebar be commented out? |
| 16:33 | surely it should just not be included if it is not wanted? | |
| 16:35 | and the seemingly offending line is in the bugs widget | |
| 16:35 | so it will always show up | |
| 16:35 | slef | I'm not sure. I don't have access to investigate what's happening in the search results template, so can't say if commenting the sidebar out is the right fix or if that would just move the problem to the footer or something. |
| 16:35 | braedon | while the particular bug is in that list |
| 16:36 | Oak | W3C Markup validation: http://tinyurl.com/34fd66q |
| 16:36 | braedon | slef: it looks as if someone has tried to comment out the sidebar |
| 16:37 | slef | braedon: but commented out in HTML not PHP, right? |
| 16:37 | braedon | yes |
| 16:37 | " invalid comment declaration: found name character outside comment but inside comment declaration" | |
| 16:38 | that would be the problem | |
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| 16:49 | braedon | chris_n: do you want to know the problem/solution? or should i leave a message for wizzyrea? |
| 16:50 | Oak | in the source code, there is a line: <!-- <div id="sidebar"> if you change it to <!-- <div id="sidebar"--> then it fixes a lot of things |
| 16:50 | braedon | Oak: alas, that leaves the sidebar in, but without its opening tag |
| 16:50 | chris_n | braedon: both |
| 16:50 | braedon | ok, here goes |
| 16:51 | the problem is, primarily, that html comments are being used to comment out the sidebar, and html comments are retarded | |
| 16:51 | Oak | hmm |
| 16:51 | braedon | in html comments, a sequence "--" is equivalent to a quote |
| 16:52 | * chris_n | goes to have a look |
| 16:52 | braedon | the "<!" opens the comment tag, the ">" closes it |
| 16:52 | to put any text in your comment, you must quote it with "--" | |
| 16:52 | ie, all blocks of -'s must be multiples of 4 in the text of your comment | |
| 16:53 | chris_n | but wizzyrea is the word press expert, so I probably will not be able to fix it |
| 16:53 | braedon | if you use two -'s, it closes the quotes, so you must immediately use another two to open them again |
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| 16:54 | braedon | the problem here is that the are three, not two, being used as separators in the title fields of links in the bug widget of the sidebar |
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| 16:55 | Oak | <!-- opens a comment and --> closes it |
| 16:56 | braedon | the first time you hit one of these 3 -'s, the first two close the quote, and then the closing > of the a tag is interpreted as the close of the comment tag, since no two -'s are seen before it to open quote again |
| 16:56 | thus, at the first bug link in the sidebar, the commenting out of the sidebar breaks | |
| 16:56 | exactly how it breaks depends on the exact parsing of your browser | |
| 16:57 | to fix, comment the sidebar out in php, not in html, or change the separator from 3 to 4 -'s, or to something else entirely | |
| 16:57 | Oak: alas, it it is not that simple | |
| 16:57 | http://techpatterns.com/forums/about1186.html | |
| 16:58 | Oak | yes braedon, noe I know what you mean: http://htmlhelp.com/reference/[…]misc/comment.html |
| 17:02 | braedon | o, note also that nested comments are not allowed in html, and there are other comments in the sidebar, so even removing that premature comment end will just push the problem further down (i think) |
| 17:02 | * chris_n | will leave well enough alone |
| 17:03 | chris_n | having looked, I will only end up breaking something as it is not self evident how to change the search result template |
| 17:04 | braedon | @later tell wizzyrea hopefully this helps with chris_n's message http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]10-10-15#i_519928 |
| 17:04 | munin | braedon: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:05 | * braedon | makes another attempt at going to bed :P |
| 17:05 | braedon | night (again) #koha |
| 17:05 | Oak | night braedon |
| 17:05 | peace be upon you | |
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| 17:23 | Oak | night |
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| 17:28 | fcapo | Authorities searches by authtype don't work in my Koha instance. That might be the cause of my linkage problem. |
| 17:29 | Anybody had that problem? | |
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| 17:35 | fcapo | hum... If I edit and save an existing authority, it then becomes searchable by authtype... |
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| 17:49 | fcapo | Ok, the problem was on my side... We used a modified bulkmarcimport script to import the authorities and it looks like it stored the authorities incorrectly... Using the orginal bulkmarcimport.pl with the -a option for authority importation fixed everything. |
| 17:49 | gmcharlt | fcapo: out of curiosity, what was wrong, specifically? |
| 17:50 | fcapo | That's what I'm trying to find. All I know is that authorities imported with the custom import script can't be searched by authtype. |
| 17:51 | And link_bibs_by_authorities used authtypes in its searches, so that's why the links weren't created | |
| 17:53 | gmcharlt | fcapo: at a guess, it may not have been calculating the authtype and including that as the third parameter of AddAuthority |
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| 17:58 | fcapo | It seems to use GuessAuthTypeCode to get the authtypecode... so the problem isnt there... |
| 18:03 | hum.. It doesn't use AddAuthority... it just sends the authority directly in the BD without doing the fixes and verifications AddAuthority does :/ | |
| 18:07 | haha... the authtypecode isn't added into the $record like in AddAuthority. Well, that's the problem I guess. | |
| 18:07 | chris | fol de rol again, that guy cant help himself |
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| 18:42 | ebegin | I though there was a syspref to set the number of results per page in the opec... |
| 18:42 | s/opec/opac :) | |
| 18:43 | jwagner | ebegin, see OPACnumSearchResults (in Searching tab) |
| 18:44 | ebegin | jwagner, arrg... that Searching tab... I always forget it :) tnx |
| 18:47 | * jcamins | would like to make the following statement: non-profit management is tiresome. |
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| 18:51 | schuster | So the community git is what release currently? |
| 18:53 | brendan | all of them ;) |
| 18:53 | schuster | so it would be 3.2+ |
| 18:53 | sekjal | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=summary shows all the latest commits to the codebase |
| 18:54 | looks like we're 12 updates past the bundling of 3.2 RC1 | |
| 18:54 | brendan | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=summary |
| 18:54 | heh jinx sekjal++ | |
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| 18:58 | yhager | In my arch koha package, I want to refer the user to the INSTALL document, but it is not getting installed. Actually there is no /usr/share/doc/koha* directory after installation |
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| 18:59 | aarkerio | hi!! there is something like "Medical Reference Library" to store books |
| 18:59 | I mean, something like Dewey but for Medical Books | |
| 19:02 | * sekjal | is listening to banjo music, much to his surprise |
| 19:04 | jcamins | Any idea why about half-way through the list of authorities, the results stop being in order? |
| 19:05 | (I pulled up all records in the staff client, and am going through them; on page 68/100 [okay, two-thirds], I haveSambon, Mowat, Rome, Perdrizet, Rome, Svorons, Tetradrachm, Seals, Sayles, Propaganda...) | |
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| 19:20 | ebegin | What is considered as a main entry in an authority (ref: Browse by subjects) |
| 19:20 | Is it the field that is copied in the bib? For exemple, 100 for the personal name? | |
| 19:21 | jcamins | ebegin: if you mean for searching, only the first box works, so far as I know. |
| 19:24 | Zebra only sorts the first 1000 results, doesn't it? | |
| 19:28 | Hm. What goes in authtrees in the auth_header table? | |
| 19:29 | NULL. | |
| 19:30 | Is it possible to export authority records? | |
| 19:33 | * brendan | finds that I usually like reading chris_n messages to the list (well written and thought out - in general) chris_n++ |
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| 20:11 | jcamins | It's harder to upgrade Firefox than IE? |
| 20:11 | I *knew* there was something wrong with my computer. | |
| 20:11 | (Windows reports occasionally that IE needs to be updated, and then refuses to do anything about it) | |
| 20:23 | chris | Heh |
| 20:25 | Man that david is a piece of work | |
| 20:26 | larsw | you are making me want to re-subscribe :P |
| 20:26 | chris | Heh |
| 20:26 | jcamins | larsw: you unsubscribed from the lists, and spend all your time on #koha? |
| 20:26 | Separation anxiety? :P | |
| 20:26 | chris | His latest message is pretty special |
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| 20:27 | larsw | jcamins, I hang out here so as not to lose all contact with some of the friends I made while I worked on Koha |
| 20:27 | and I try to lurk so as not to disturb you all | |
| 20:28 | jcamins | larsw: Fair enough. _I_ certainly would be sorry to see you leave. |
| 20:28 | And not just because you always pop up to answer the tricky questions about Debian. | |
| 20:28 | chris | http://www.oreillynet.com/conf[…]rce_projects.html |
| 20:29 | larsw | chris, special, check |
| 20:29 | chris | :) |
| 20:33 | jcamins | Closing time. |
| 20:33 | Good night, #koha | |
| 20:33 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
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| 21:22 | schuster | Just as long as it isn't this David you are refering to... Schuster |
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| 21:26 | chris | Nope the other david, the one who just picks fights on mailing lists |
| 21:34 | I really think there is nothing to be gained engaging with him, he needs the last word and is just contrary | |
| 21:34 | Best thing is to not feed him | |
| 21:39 | He's pretty successfully killed that thread | |
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| 22:00 | yhager | Hi all, I have created an archlinux package for koha. Should I post about it on the mailing list? |
| 22:00 | http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41853 | |
| 22:01 | larsw | yhager, yes, you should |
| 22:01 | yhager | It takes care of *all* the perl dependencies, which is most of the pain in installing this, so I am pretty happy to have it |
| 22:01 | larsw: ok, I'll do some more checks and post about it (probably not before tomorrow) | |
| 22:26 | gmcharlt | yhager++ |
| 22:26 | yhager | :) |
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| 23:22 | chris | Well I tried let's see if it achieves anything |
| 23:28 | That was my actions have consequences email diplomatic as possible |
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