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| 03:11 | Amit | heya chris |
| 03:12 | chris | hey Amit |
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| 04:53 | irma | hi everyone |
| 04:53 | chris | hi irma |
| 04:54 | irma | just visiting for a while |
| 04:55 | as I am working something out | |
| 04:56 | and the loneliness of the office is getting to me ;-) | |
| 04:56 | chris | im about to head for home im afraid, im not sure who else is about though |
| 04:57 | irma | np... going home is good! Enjoy! |
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| 06:16 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 06:20 | robin | hi |
| 06:21 | cait | hi robin :) |
| 06:22 | * robin | is setting a Mahara instance for our development etc. team. See if it's useful for tracking things, and also might give us a feel for integration with Koha. |
| 06:22 | cait | Mahara? |
| 06:23 | robin | It's an "e-portfolia" system. Aimed at schools for students to track all their work, rather than using textbooks. |
| 06:24 | err | |
| 06:24 | rather than using exercise books | |
| 06:24 | but more realistically, in addition too | |
| 06:24 | http://mahara.org/ | |
| 06:24 | It's another project devs here (although not Chris or I) work on :) | |
| 06:25 | I have a very bad memory for programming, and a few months later I've completely forgotten things I spent a week doing. | |
| 06:25 | So I'm going to have a go recording a bit more, see if it works. | |
| 06:29 | cait | :) |
| 06:29 | I use a personal wiki to track things | |
| 06:30 | can't do without some pages, habe to look up some git commands again and again | |
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| 06:32 | robin | yeah, we have a wiki, but it's more documentation-oriented. |
| 06:32 | so I'm installing it as an experiment to see if it's useful for things that are worth recording, but aren't really wiki material. | |
| 06:42 | cait | experiments++ |
| 06:42 | ok, time to go to work | |
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| 06:43 | cait | morning paul_p |
| 06:43 | bbl | |
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| 07:42 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:47 | chris | hiya kf |
| 07:48 | hdl | hi chris |
| 07:49 | kf | hi chris and hdl :) |
| 07:49 | chris | hi hdl |
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| 08:10 | magnus | g'day #koha |
| 08:10 | chris | hi magnus |
| 08:10 | magnus | hiya chris - storm over? |
| 08:11 | chris | never really hit in wellington |
| 08:11 | but still bits going in the other places | |
| 08:11 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]d-wipes-out-power | |
| 08:14 | magnus | good on you! ;-) |
| 08:27 | wasabi | robin: i have recently started dumping things into a private wordpress site |
| 08:27 | ... mostly programming problems and solutions | |
| 08:28 | git/shell/perl/mysql stuff, code and output snippets, etc | |
| 08:29 | its working OK, editing is easier for me that wiki syntax | |
| 08:29 | s/that/than/ | |
| 08:30 | and i get to practice with wordpress, which i think i'll run my website on eventually | |
| 08:31 | magnus | wordpress rocks! ;-) |
| 08:31 | wasabi | a skill i can apply to kc.org ;) |
| 08:31 | yeah, me likey - so far | |
| 08:31 | aah, it munges some code-snippets! | |
| 08:32 | theres a code-formatting plugin to fix that, but i dont have it running yet... :/ | |
| 08:33 | easy to set up, lots of fun plugins | |
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| 09:05 | magnus | wasabi: true dat. can we see it? |
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| 09:08 | wasabi | hmmm , prolly not , im sure i have ssh/mysql passwords in my code-pastes :/ |
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| 09:09 | wasabi | oops, firewall rules too |
| 09:10 | magnus: i'll *hopefully* have a public one soon | |
| 09:11 | magnus | wasabi: cool! |
| 09:11 | wasabi | its infuriating having to learn something arcane, only to forget it again |
| 09:12 | im re-learning how to ldap debug now | |
| 09:13 | ive forgotten how i did it last time round :/ (no wpress then), this time ill take notes.. | |
| 09:17 | magnus | wasabi: i have been thinking along the same lines myself for a long time, but havn't gotten around to it, yet... |
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| 10:42 | kmkale | hi all |
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| 10:44 | kmkale | After transfering an item between branches, how do i get rid of the in transit message? It shows "1 item, None available" and also "No holds allowed" for that item |
| 10:47 | kf | that looks not like the transit message |
| 10:47 | I think its your circulation rules | |
| 10:47 | if you transit an item, it still has the old homebranch and a new current branch | |
| 10:48 | I think there is a sys pref for not sending items back to their original homebranch after check in | |
| 10:49 | kmkale | so at the receiving branch do i have to do something like receive them through some link / form? |
| 10:50 | The item is showing correct home / current branch.. | |
| 10:51 | This is what a staff client search for the item looks like.. | |
| 10:51 | 1 item, None available 1 unavailable: | |
| 10:51 | * [CD / DVD] Kalpataru Recreation Libraries Pvt.Ltd.,Baner link Rd Pune [KV0003] (In transit) (1) | |
| 10:52 | and when I click on the item this is what shows in the Holdings Status.. | |
| 10:52 | In transit from Kalpataru Recreation Libraries PVT. LTD. Sneha Nagar Branch, to Kalpataru Recreation Libraries Pvt.Ltd.,Baner link Rd Pune, since 08/16/2010 | |
| 10:53 | kf | check in |
| 10:53 | check the item in to indicate that it has arrived at the library | |
| 10:53 | kmkale | but the items status shows .. |
| 10:53 | Checkout Status: Not Checked out | |
| 10:54 | should I still try to check it in? | |
| 10:55 | Nope. As expected it says "Not checked out." | |
| 11:28 | kf | yes, but transit should be gone now |
| 11:29 | it was not checked out, but in transit | |
| 11:29 | sorry for the late answer - lunch time here | |
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| 11:38 | kmkale | sorry had to meet a walk in visitor. kf you are a wonder. Yes transit is gone now. |
| 11:38 | Thanks. | |
| 11:38 | kf++ | |
| 11:39 | kf | no problem |
| 11:39 | the items will stay in transit until checked in at the library | |
| 11:40 | so you always know if they really arrived at the library | |
| 11:42 | kmkale | cool. I searched hi n low for receive functionality. The documentation is terse on this. Did not strike that we just have to check it in once.. |
| 11:42 | kf | it's always the obvious things you miss most easily |
| 11:43 | I think it works like this in some other ILS too | |
| 11:44 | hm, I see no chapter for transit in the new manual | |
| 11:44 | I thought there was one | |
| 11:45 | kmkale | there is one for transfers |
| 11:45 | but it does not mention that you have to check in once at the receiving library | |
| 11:45 | kf | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]-manual/?ch=x6905 |
| 11:45 | yep | |
| 11:46 | I will make a note to ask nengard to add this step | |
| 11:49 | * magnus | notices Evergreen on "FLOSS weekly" http://twit.tv/floss132 |
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| 11:53 | kf | hi magnus |
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| 11:53 | magnus | hiya kf |
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| 12:42 | kf | chris_n: hi - I saw your comment about my signed-off patch for bug 5191 |
| 12:42 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5191 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Edit subscription shows patron notification always 'none' |
| 12:43 | kf | chris_n: I checked my settings in git and all seems to be right, I resend the patch and it looks good to now, I have no idea whre the utf-9 came from. |
| 12:43 | I will be careful and check my next mails too | |
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| 12:58 | kf | hi owen |
| 12:58 | owen | Hi kf. I hope you had a good weekend? |
| 12:59 | chris_n | kf: thanks; I was practicing up on pushing patches and stumbled across that... I finally had to consult the oracle at #git to discover the fix |
| 12:59 | kf | chris_n: sorry for causing problems |
| 13:00 | chris_n | no problem at all :-) |
| 13:00 | kf | owen: yes, hope you too |
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| 13:10 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 13:11 | tcohen | Good morning |
| 13:11 | kmkale | Koha 3.01.00.145 i dont seem to be able to turn off "Browse by Subject" |
| 13:12 | If I turn off "OpacBrowser" then "Browse by Hierarchy" is turned off :( | |
| 13:13 | jwagner | kmkale, try OpacAuthorities |
| 13:15 | kmkale | aahhh!! thats what happens if you stay off koha for a few months ;) |
| 13:16 | thanks jwagner | |
| 13:19 | * druthb | waves to kmkale. |
| 13:19 | kmkale | hi druthb |
| 13:24 | kf | hi druthb :) |
| 13:25 | druthb | :) |
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| 14:00 | owen | Hi schuster how's it going? |
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| 14:01 | * druthb | waves to schuster |
| 14:02 | kmkale | hi owen |
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| 14:33 | * wizzyrea | yawns |
| 14:33 | wizzyrea | good morning |
| 14:34 | owen | Aw man wizzyrea did you sleep in #koha again? You gotta get home and sleep in your own bed. |
| 14:34 | sekjal | morning, wizzyrea |
| 14:34 | wizzyrea | lol no. I just really love reading the join/quit backlog ;) |
| 14:34 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 14:35 | druthb | hi, wizzyrea. :) |
| 14:35 | wizzyrea | heya |
| 14:35 | * druthb | hands the sleepy wizzy a cup of tea. |
| 14:35 | wizzyrea | oh that's lovely thanks |
| 14:35 | :D | |
| 14:36 | * jcamins | hands wizzyrea some apple crisp since apparently she forgot to leave #koha, and therefore probably hasn't had breakfast ;) |
| 14:36 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 14:36 | * jcamins | hands apple crisp to everyone else in #koha while he's at it, because he has five pounds of it in his fridge. |
| 14:36 | wizzyrea | duuude |
| 14:36 | * owen | could really go for five pounds of apple crisp right now! |
| 14:36 | druthb | jcamins++ |
| 14:37 | jcamins | :) |
| 14:37 | wizzyrea | it's almost peak apple season |
| 14:37 | * wizzyrea | contemplates a trip to the orchard |
| 14:37 | * sekjal | went apple picking this weekend, got at least a peck |
| 14:38 | wizzyrea | nice! |
| 14:40 | sekjal | I meant to bake yesterday, but wound up watching a lot of TV instead |
| 14:41 | kf | sekjal: sounds very familiar |
| 14:41 | * owen | could really go for five pounds of apple crisp and a lot of TV right now! |
| 14:42 | jcamins | I spent all weekend baking. It was wonderful! |
| 14:42 | wizzyrea | i thought you were having beer all weekend, owen |
| 14:42 | owen | Unfortunately just the one |
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| 14:45 | jcamins | I didn't realize that the stories behind apple varieties were so colorful. |
| 14:49 | * druthb | went to the National Zoo with a friend. |
| 14:49 | jcamins | That sounds fun. |
| 14:50 | I haven't been to a zoo in years. | |
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| 14:55 | druthb | It was fun. Our zoo here is supposed to be one of the best in the nation--certainly is, for conservation efforts and such...but they're doing some big-time remodeling right now. |
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| 15:02 | wizzyrea | whoa, just saw the post on fb about your plains branch... that musta been a crazy storm |
| 15:03 | er, owen | |
| 15:05 | jcamins | What are the three dots next to the barcode field supposed to do? |
| 15:05 | I never noticed them before. | |
| 15:06 | reva | hi all, I was wondering if there is a pdf version of the koha manuals (for any version). When I use the "print this" on the top right of the manual pages, it only prints it as a web page, not in printer-friendly format. |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | there is a pdf version, but it currently has no screenshots |
| 15:10 | reva | Thanks, wizzyrea: That is ok if there are no screen shots. What is the address please? |
| 15:10 | jcamins | reva: if you are using Koha 3.0, the manual is available as a PDF: http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 15:15 | reva | wizzyrea: I already have the Wayne State Uni. one and it looks like it is for administration. I was trying to use the one found under Reference. I tried clicking "all contents on one page..." it gave 401"Gone" message. |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | reva: I'm sorry, I"m not even sure what you're referring to, we don't have a "all contents on one page" option |
| 15:16 | on koha-community.org | |
| 15:16 | which is where the documentation lives now | |
| 15:16 | kf | jcamins: sign of a plugin linked to the field, perhaps only active if you have set the syspref on |
| 15:16 | jcamins | kf: ah-ha. That must be why when I clicked it nothing happened. |
| 15:17 | kf | jcamins: I think it always shows, because it's linked in the framework, but not always works... never tried it |
| 15:18 | jcamins | That makes sense. |
| 15:19 | owen | wizzyrea: Yeah, luckily the damage wasn't too bad. Everyone in that town is mad because the authorities won't call it a tornado even though it caused damage like one. |
| 15:20 | reva | wizzyrea: I was on this page: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2. |
| 15:20 | wizzyrea | Yep, that's not maintained by the community anymore |
| 15:21 | reva | ok, so there are no reference manuals then? (Only the admin help from Wayne State?) |
| 15:21 | wizzyrea | http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 15:21 | koha.org is not the koha website anymore | |
| 15:21 | if you are there, you are looking at outdated information. | |
| 15:22 | I know it looks official. | |
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| 15:24 | reva | Thanks wizzyrea: but 3.2 does not have a pdf version? |
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| 15:24 | wizzyrea | it does, but it doesn't have graphics. I'm trying to get you a more current version (the current generated version is months old, lacking lots of things.) |
| 15:24 | but it, you know, takes time. | |
| 15:25 | reva | I will know to look our for "community" in the web address.:) |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 15:26 | reva | sorry, but I do not see a link for 3.2 pdf version. Am I misunderstanding you? |
| 15:27 | jcamins | reva: wizzyrea is working on it right this moment. |
| 15:27 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 15:27 | what he said ;) | |
| 15:27 | jcamins | The link to the documentation page brings you to the HTML manual. |
| 15:29 | reva | oh, ok. I get it. We were going to print the reference manual (some recent Koha version) and keep a hard copy just in case it disappears. |
| 15:29 | wizzyrea | unless you know something I don't, I don't think it's going anywhere ;) |
| 15:30 | jcamins | The manual is very much a work-in-progress. nengard is always adding more to it, so a printed copy would quickly become obsolete. |
| 15:31 | Plus, the manual documents a version of Koha that you're not using, unless you've decided to change to 3.2. | |
| 15:32 | reva | ok, I am still not comfortable relying on everything in a cloud.:) And the staff here hesitiate to use the web help.:( No jcamins: it is just the functionalities are similar so they can have something to fall back on when I leave.:) |
| 15:33 | jcamin: we will also update to 3.2 down the line. | |
| 15:33 | jwagner | Hrrmmmm. Some jquery text substitutions aren't showing in IE. Anything I can recommend as an IE setting change to make them show? |
| 15:33 | jcamins | Update IE? |
| 15:34 | We determined that jQuery and IE 6 don't play nicely. | |
| 15:34 | reva | so are the patches also in the community site? No, I meant update from 3.0.6 to 3.2 |
| 15:34 | sekjal | reva: the Koha manual is in a Git repository, so you could pull it onto a local server, and update regularly. |
| 15:34 | owen | Who plays nicely with IE6 besides the year 2000? |
| 15:34 | jcamins | owen: well, no one. |
| 15:34 | reva | hi sekjal: how do I pull it from a git repository? |
| 15:34 | jwagner | jcamins, I'm in IE 8. Not sure what the site that reported this is running. |
| 15:35 | jcamins | Oh. Hm. So much for that idea. |
| 15:35 | owen | You'd better find out jwagner |
| 15:35 | sekjal | reva: you'd need a machine with Git installed. |
| 15:35 | jcamins | (side note: why does everyone other than me have modern web browsers?) |
| 15:35 | sekjal | then, git clone to copy the repository originally |
| 15:35 | and git pull to fetch the latest updates whenever you wish | |
| 15:36 | jwagner | It seems to be specifically the replaceWith(" constructs -- things like $("label[for='phonepro']").html("Other phone:"); are working fine. |
| 15:37 | reva | ok, I am having an IT help drop by today so we will get it done, sekjal:. and I can download git from any "clean" site like filehippo? |
| 15:38 | sekjal | reva: http://git-scm.com/download |
| 15:39 | reva | thanks a bunch sekjal: and just one more thing what are the addresses for the repository and patches? |
| 15:40 | wizzyrea | git.koha-community.org |
| 15:40 | sekjal | reva: the docs repo is at git://git.koha-community.org/kohadocs.git |
| 15:41 | reva | sekjal and wizzyrea: thanks. |
| 15:43 | sorry for troubling: and the patches? (I lost the address cait gave for showing place of publication in OPAC.) | |
| 15:45 | kf | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ugust/012495.html |
| 15:45 | it's not in git yet, but it's attached to the bug in bugzilla and I send it to the koha-patches mailing list | |
| 15:46 | reva | wonderful and thanks again to all of you and kf: ok, got it even though you are talking greek:). |
| 15:46 | kf | greek? |
| 15:47 | reva | oh, I meant the git and all things associated with it are new to me:). |
| 15:47 | owen | kf: As in "It's Greek to me," meaning it's unintelligible. |
| 15:47 | kf | oh |
| 15:47 | hdl | in french greek is chinese |
| 15:47 | in german, maybe still an other language. | |
| 15:47 | kf | hdl: I think we use chinese too |
| 15:48 | owen: thx :) | |
| 15:48 | ok, time to leave for me - bye all :) | |
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| 15:51 | owen | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_to_me |
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| 16:01 | owen | Dang, I missed my chance to shoot my mouth off while logbot was gone. |
| 16:01 | wizzyrea | and you had 3 minute! |
| 16:01 | though the alohalog was still here | |
| 16:01 | >.> | |
| 16:03 | wow. Wikipedia knows everything. | |
| 16:04 | jcamins | wizzyrea: except, apparently, what I ate for breakfast. There was no mention of "apple crisp" on the breakfast page. |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 16:04 | the internet knows now though ;) | |
| 16:04 | jcamins | Yes. |
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| 16:11 | hdl | hi brendan |
| 16:11 | brendan | hi hdl |
| 16:11 | YAY the intertubes are back :) | |
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| 16:37 | owen | Hi Lee! |
| 16:37 | wizzyrea | hey lee :) |
| 16:38 | Lee | hi ya guys! |
| 16:38 | happy Monday | |
| 16:38 | I am just showing Diane our tech ser librarian how to use the IRC while I am in NZ | |
| 16:39 | owen | Hi Diane, I'll be one of the poor saps in here wishing he was in NZ :) |
| 16:39 | Lee | so if you see her here she might need some help with our 3.2 install we are doing this month |
| 16:40 | Awwww Owen we are gonna miss you | |
| 16:40 | esp. at happy hour | |
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| 16:42 | Lee | be back later ...working on setting her up |
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| 16:43 | reva | I have another question: when I am building the leader and I click on the country code or language code link, it opens the page on the same window; but there is no way to back up the browser to the leader builder page (which is where you were). No option in the context right click menu either. Is it solved in 3.2? |
| 16:45 | jcamins | reva: use the "back" function on your web browser. It's very irritating, but it works. |
| 16:45 | You can also hold down the Alt key and press the left arrow. | |
| 16:45 | (that's the keyboard shortuct for "back") | |
| 16:45 | reva | jcamins: let me try that now. |
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| 16:47 | reva | ok, the alt key back arrow works. Thanks. I was forever opening and going to another tab. exacerbating my carpal tunnel syndrome. |
| 16:48 | owen | I wonder if it's supposed to do that... |
| 16:49 | jcamins | owen: no, I'm sure it's a bug. |
| 16:49 | It should open in a separate tab like the other links. | |
| 16:49 | reva | jcamins: just fyi, the pop up leader builder (at least in my version of Koha) does not come with a back button!! |
| 16:49 | jcamins | reva: yeah, that's why I suggested Alt+left arrow. |
| 16:49 | reva | OK:) |
| 16:49 | owen | Or right-click, Back |
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| 16:50 | owen | I thought maybe there was some window-popping javascript which wasn't working, but there isn't. |
| 16:51 | We ought to just ship Koha with the country codes as authorized values | |
| 16:51 | jcamins | owen++ |
| 16:52 | reva | owen: funnily, right click context menu does not have a back option. I am running a firefox browser. |
| 16:53 | owen | reva: It should, Are you sure you don't have something selected? You also can't be clicking inside a form field. |
| 16:54 | reva | Also, this for if you know live CD things: when I install the live CD (in my case it has the ubuntu server and koha) on to my hard drive, is it equivalent to having a dual boot?. That is I will only be able to run the ubuntu server os or my windows xp? |
| 16:55 | owen: you are right; it does have back option (i had accidentally selected somethingso when I right clicked it only had options for copying, etc.)duh.. | |
| 16:56 | jcamins | reva: if you have both Windows and Ubuntu installed, you will be able to switch between operating systems, yes. |
| 16:56 | wizzyrea | but you won't be able to run them *at the same time( |
| 16:56 | * | |
| 16:56 | so, for a server, that probably won't work so well. | |
| 16:57 | jcamins | Oh, I misunderstood your question. |
| 16:57 | reva | so basically, I can even go for 3.2 for the live CD will also give me dual boot; so the only thing is I will have to install all the Debian, PERL, Apache separately in order, correct? |
| 16:57 | jcamins | Listen to wizzyrea. |
| 16:58 | :) | |
| 16:58 | reva | ok, jcamins:). So wizzyrea, it will install itself like a dual boot? |
| 16:59 | wizzyrea | If you install it, you will only be able to run one of those operating systems at a time |
| 16:59 | jcamins | reva: "dual booting" just means there are two (or more) operating systems installed on one computer. |
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| 17:00 | wizzyrea | so, if you want to, say, access your koha from the windows xp installation that resides on the same computer, you won't be able to do that in your scenario |
| 17:00 | make sense? | |
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| 17:01 | reva | Got it: I used the term "dual boot" loosely to indicate switching betweeh. My live cd has the ubuntu, my regular OS is windows XP. So basically, I can go for 3.2 instead but the initial install will involve all kinds of things like PERL (which I don't know anything about). |
| 17:02 | wizzyrea | well, theoretically debian should come with most of what you need installed by default. Configuration thereof is another matter. |
| 17:02 | jcamins | I love theory. :P |
| 17:04 | reva | well I am having a kind-hearted IT person stopping by for integrating the patches and changing logo in the OPAC, I could try to persuade him to help me install and configure Debian. |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | it's not as hard as it seems, really. If you've used ubuntu at all you'll probably be fine |
| 17:04 | brendan | Happy Birthday Nate |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | ooh! Birthday! |
| 17:04 | Happy Birthday Nate :) | |
| 17:05 | jcamins | Happy birthday Nate! |
| 17:05 | reva | Debian lenny is what I would go for? |
| 17:05 | brendan | @happybirthday |
| 17:05 | munin | brendan: Error: "happybirthday" is not a valid command. |
| 17:05 | reva | wizzyrea: that makes me feel positive:). |
| 17:05 | Nate | Thanks everyone! |
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| 17:15 | hdl | Happy birthday Nate |
| 17:15 | reva | wizzyrea: they have current, current live and a plain 5.0.6. which one should I download? |
| 17:15 | Nate | Thanks! |
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| 17:21 | reva | I went to utexas ftp mirror for downloading Debian 5.0.6 for my intel x86. (which is i386 in the list). But the ftp directory has very many iso cds. I am not sure which one I would go with. Help? |
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| 18:39 | chris | happy birthday Nate |
| 18:39 | cait | happy birthday nate :) |
| 18:39 | and good morning chris :) | |
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| 18:40 | owen | Hi chris |
| 18:40 | chris, you're planning the Template-toolkit transition for 3.4 correct? | |
| 18:41 | chris | yup |
| 18:41 | owen | Does that mean working on a bug that changes dozens of templates is a fool's errand at this point? |
| 18:43 | chris | nope |
| 18:43 | because we have this | |
| 18:43 | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]50eb63b4a35555fba | |
| 18:43 | at some point im gonna say, stop touching the old templates, but not yet | |
| 18:43 | owen | Okay, cool |
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| 18:46 | owen | I didn't realize there could be a 1->1 translation for TT |
| 18:46 | chris | its pretty close to that |
| 18:47 | cait | cool :) |
| 18:47 | chris | but there will be some fixing, so at some point early in the 3.4 cycle |
| 18:47 | will migrate them over, then call a freeze on the old templates, and fix them up | |
| 18:48 | that point hasnt arrived yet though | |
| 18:48 | jcamins | croak? |
| 18:48 | Heh. | |
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| 18:48 | * owen | did a big push on Bug 3652 but it doesn't look like the work will make it into 3.2 |
| 18:48 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, XSS vulnerabilities |
| 18:49 | chris | ahh yeah that would be good to have early on in 3.4 |
| 18:50 | owen | and now Bug 4048 |
| 18:50 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths |
| 18:50 | chris | sweet |
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| 18:52 | CGI563 | hi |
| 18:54 | hi ... | |
| 18:54 | owen | Hi CGI563 do you have a question? |
| 18:54 | CGI563 | yup sir ... i have just installed koha 3.00.006 successfully |
| 18:55 | everything seems to work except the email when new users are created | |
| 18:55 | i have set the auto email flag to true | |
| 18:56 | can u help here | |
| 18:56 | i can send emails using sendmail directly .... but not in koha | |
| 18:56 | owen | CGI563: Are other emails working? Emailing a cart, sending user requests for update of their record? |
| 18:57 | CGI563 | no ... emails are not working at all |
| 18:58 | owen | It sounds like your email problem may be systemic rather than related to Koha |
| 18:59 | CGI563 | does koha use sendmail utility on unix? |
| 18:59 | if so .... the sendmail utility works perfectly on my system ... | |
| 18:59 | even using perl scripts | |
| 19:00 | owen | I'm not an expert, but I don't think Koha cares what mail utility you use |
| 19:00 | CGI563 | ok ... i am also getting one more perl error .... |
| 19:00 | brendan | do you have a process_message.pl cronjob running? |
| 19:00 | * chris | wanders off for breakfast |
| 19:01 | CGI563 | o |
| 19:01 | no | |
| 19:01 | i donot see any such job | |
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| 19:01 | owen | brendan: That would be required for notices but not for emailing a cart from the OPAC |
| 19:01 | reva | hi I am trying again. I went to utexas ftp mirror for downloading Debian 5.0.6 for my intel x86. (which is i386 in the list). But the ftp directory has very many iso cds. I am not sure which one I would go with. Help? |
| 19:01 | owen | CGI563: You said you could successfully email a cart from the OPAC? |
| 19:02 | CGI563 | no ... |
| 19:02 | email is not working at all | |
| 19:02 | how can i get that job running.... | |
| 19:03 | you were saying something about process_message.pl cronjob? | |
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| 19:04 | wizzyrea | Latest official release of the "stable" CD images: 5.0.6. |
| 19:05 | CGI563 | ok guys ... i am also getting an error when i click on "Patron categories" |
| 19:05 | jcamins | CGI563: what error? |
| 19:05 | CGI563 | Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /vol/koha/koha3/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/categorie.pl line 222. |
| 19:05 | any ideas? | |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | have you defined patron types? |
| 19:06 | reva | Same for Apache. Do I download the http server? wizzyrea: it has like very many iso images (labelled CD1, CD2, etc.). That is what I was aksing about. (I had gotten to UTexas ftp mirror for downloading 5.0.6.) |
| 19:06 | CGI563 | no ... do I need to..? |
| 19:06 | owen | It sounds like that's what CGI563 is trying to do wizzyrea |
| 19:06 | wizzyrea | yea, I'm wondering if he's got something weird in there |
| 19:06 | :) | |
| 19:06 | owen | I see |
| 19:07 | CGI563 | hey guys ... i have no idea as to what the prob may be |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | reva: I'd start with cd1 |
| 19:07 | CGI563 | i have these 2 probs some how... |
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| 19:07 | reva | wizzyrea: ok. So there is only one CD or are all of them supposed to be downloaded? |
| 19:07 | CGI563 | everything else seems perfect |
| 19:08 | guys ... any idea for this error? | |
| 19:09 | reva | can it be opened with winrar or do I have to burn it as an iso image for installation? |
| 19:11 | jcamins | reva: I would suggest looking for a guide to installing Debian. |
| 19:12 | CGI563 | Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /vol/koha/koha3/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/categorie.pl line 222.? |
| 19:12 | reva | ok, I will do that jcamins: they have install instructions on their site. Do I download the http Apache server? And what version of PERL and MySQL? |
| 19:12 | CGI563 | is there some problem with code in this file? |
| 19:13 | wizzy_awa | no one has reported that one before that I am aware of CGI563 |
| 19:13 | it's not documented on the list anyway | |
| 19:13 | CGI563 | can some 1 check? |
| 19:13 | or help in any wya | |
| 19:13 | *way | |
| 19:14 | some sort of quick fix if possible | |
| 19:14 | ? | |
| 19:14 | owen | CGI563: That's what we've been trying to do. |
| 19:14 | We're not stringing you along or something | |
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| 19:14 | CGI563 | ok ... cool .. thanks man |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | CGI563: did you say if you had defined patron categories? |
| 19:15 | owen | Line 222 of categorie.pl has something to do with patron messaging |
| 19:16 | CGI563 | 219 PREF: foreach my $option ( @$messaging_options ) { 220 my $pref = C4::Members::Messaging::GetMessagingPreferences( { categorycode => $categorycode, 221 message_name => $option->{'message_name'} } ); 222 next unless @{$pref->{'transports'}}; 223 my $brief_pref = { message_attribute_id => $option->{'message_attribute_id'}, 224 |
| 19:16 | ok ... sorry ... here is what's on line 222 | |
| 19:16 | next unless @{$pref->{'transports'}}; | |
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| 19:17 | jcamins | reva: I really can't advise on installing Debian, but between tutorials you could find online and the documentation in the Koha package, you should be able to get off to a good start. See http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e8d3c59d7;hb=HEAD |
| 19:17 | CGI563 | i think it has aprob with @{$pref-> .... i just cannot figure out a temporary fix |
| 19:18 | hey 1 quick ques .... any idea as to where the logs for koha emails would be dumped ... ? | |
| 19:18 | or where the code may be ... ? | |
| 19:18 | i might take a look | |
| 19:21 | FYI: I am using perl 5.12, OS: CentOS 5.2, mysql DB: 5.14 ... | |
| 19:22 | jwagner | owen, online? |
| 19:25 | owen | jwagner: Yes |
| 19:26 | jwagner | In old 3x versions (more than a year old), the opacnav entries show on the search results and title displays. That was removed at some point, and I'm trying to figure out when & why. git blame isn't giving me anything useful -- I figured you would probably know. |
| 19:27 | (approximately, that is) | |
| 19:27 | I have a site that wants to display them on those pages, as in the older version -- not sure that's a good idea | |
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| 19:29 | zico | hello all |
| 19:29 | I found something in Koha-3.0.6 | |
| 19:29 | I cannot hold anything there | |
| 19:30 | when I go to hold using any login account | |
| 19:30 | it shows me the error | |
| 19:30 | Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-reserve.pl line 246. | |
| 19:31 | wizzyrea | do you have a default circ rule defined? |
| 19:31 | zico | yep, I do have |
| 19:32 | owen | jwagner: I can't find where it was taken out either, but I remember it happening. |
| 19:32 | The rationale is that the screen real estate is more importantly used for search results | |
| 19:33 | jwagner | Was there a particular reason, beyond "it just clutters up the page" |
| 19:33 | zico | is this a bug of 3.0.6? |
| 19:33 | owen | jwagner: Either you run the risk of pushing the facets down off the page where they won't be seen, or your opacnav is pushed down off the page where it won't be seen |
| 19:33 | jwagner | owen, thanks, that's kind of what I figured. The links are still present on the patron's OPAC account screen, where they do push the account tab links down the page. |
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| 19:46 | CGI563 | hey guys .... any idea as to where the koha logs may be going? |
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| 19:48 | CGI563 | any inputs please .... really appreciate some help here |
| 19:50 | reva | jcamins: thanks, I will look at the link and see how it goes; as long as I am having to run either Koha/Ubuntu or my XP, I am seriously considering 3.2. So what comes after a beta; is it the stable version? |
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| 19:51 | owen | reva: Yes |
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| 19:52 | CGI563 | owen ... is 3.1 released? |
| 19:52 | owen | There isn't a 3.1 |
| 19:52 | There may be a 3.0.7, otherwise the next official release will be 3.2 | |
| 19:53 | CGI563 | when would that be ... approx? |
| 19:53 | reva | Ok, jacamins: now are the released patches integrated into 3.2; or would I have to go in and apply them? |
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| 19:53 | reva | ok, I misspelled your name jcamins::). |
| 19:54 | jcamins | reva: it varies. |
| 19:55 | A lot of improvements made it into 3.2, but a lot of others didn't. | |
| 19:55 | reva | so jcamins: some patches get into the newer version, but some may not have? |
| 19:55 | ok got it. | |
| 19:57 | jcamins | I'd definitely recommend getting comfortable using Linux before I started trying to apply patches, though. |
| 19:59 | reva | ok, I was not going to do that right off the bat. I am timid with IT stuff anyhow. |
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| 20:04 | CGI563 | ok guys ... thanks |
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| 20:08 | reva | another thing I noticed in the z39 searches, it requires the accent marks when searching. like this title french Conférence générale des poids et mesures. Because most keyboards and language settings in the English speaking world are not enabled for that. |
| 20:08 | chris | thats in cataloguing right? IE Z3950 searches of other systems .. not Koha |
| 20:09 | you'd have to take that up with whoevers catalogue you are searching | |
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| 20:16 | reva | chris: yes it is in cataloging. No I have the record in Koha, and I searched for it in OPAC without the accent marks and it does not come up, but with the accent marks it shows up. (It was my mistake saying it was in the z39.50 search.) |
| 20:16 | chris | ah, yeah thats fixable with icu-chains in 3.2 |
| 20:18 | reva | chris: huh? But I think you are saying that there is a patch for it in 3.2? |
| 20:19 | chris | no |
| 20:19 | you can set up zebra to do it using the icu-chains, you probably could do it from 3.0.6 ive only done it for the master branch | |
| 20:20 | theres quite a bit of talk about it on the mailing lists | |
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| 20:24 | reva | chris: I would love detailed instructions, please; I will look at the mailing list. |
| 20:27 | chris: well, if you can, please give me a link to the discussion where there are instructions. Bye for the day. | |
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| 20:31 | chris | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]nuary/022269.html |
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| 22:40 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 22.4�C (3:41 PM PDT on September 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1005.6 hPa (Falling). |
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