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| 02:17 | kwak | hello all |
| 02:18 | i intalled koha in lucid following the instructions in the wiki. | |
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| 02:19 | kwakito | whenever I do a search, i get no result |
| 02:23 | robin | kwakito: your zebra probably isn't working. |
| 02:31 | kwakito | ic, whta should I do? |
| 02:34 | robin | have you tried running rebuild_zebra.pl? |
| 02:37 | kwakito | i'm going to run it now. |
| 02:37 | it's good that I'm testing on a VM. | |
| 02:39 | robin | yeah, VMs are useful. I have bunches of them for various things. |
| 02:42 | kwakito | run rebuild_zebra.pl right? |
| 02:42 | by the way, when I do a search i get this "kw,wrdl: education" | |
| 02:44 | robin | yeah, that's normal |
| 02:44 | and rebuild_zebra.pl is what you want, probably with the options -a -b -r -v | |
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| 02:49 | kwak | i get this error when running rebuild zebra |
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| 02:53 | edward | hello |
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| 03:20 | Amit | heya chris |
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| 03:34 | wasabi | morning amit |
| 03:35 | Amit | heya mason |
| 03:40 | brendan_l | heya amit |
| 03:40 | Amit | heya brendan |
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| 04:18 | wajasu | i upgraded and installed from git on monday. my search seems to error with "Can't determine type of REF(0x4cb1e88) at blib/lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into blib/lib/auto/Storable/_freeze.al) line 339, at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 500" |
| 04:22 | any ideas? i see a search run from zebrasrv output. its just after when the results are shown. | |
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| 04:26 | kwak | why do I get YAML error during cpan install |
| 04:27 | Warning (usually harmless): 'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state | |
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| 04:27 | Braedon | ...well that was interesting... |
| 04:28 | wajasu | made my night. |
| 04:28 | Braedon | i'm sure |
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| 05:14 | wajasu | things working now. maybe the storable that was in a cookie is somehow fine? Oh well. I can't reproduce. |
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| 05:52 | kwak | cpan complains about YAML. |
| 05:52 | just a warning...is this fine to skip. or cpan YAML? | |
| 05:57 | Braedon | fine to skip |
| 05:58 | purely cpan - nothing to do with Koah | |
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| 06:06 | Braedon | not very talkative that one |
| 06:17 | wajasu | ok. i'm up and running with the latest git pull. |
| 06:18 | gnight | |
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| 06:42 | magnus | g'day #koha |
| 06:43 | Braedon_m | Howdy |
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| 07:10 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:11 | hdl | hi kf |
| 07:11 | kf | hi hdl |
| 07:11 | magnus | hiya kf, hdl, Braedon_m et aø |
| 07:12 | kf | good morning magnus |
| 07:12 | hdl | hi magnus |
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| 07:12 | magnus | s/aø/al/ |
| 07:18 | Amit | heya hdl, kf, magnus |
| 07:19 | magnus | hi Amit |
| 07:21 | kf | hi Amit |
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| 08:18 | kwak | is it possible to run the first time configuration again. |
| 08:20 | magnus | cd ../.. |
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| 08:20 | magnus | oops, sorry |
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| 08:34 | CGI522kwa | hi again, it is possible to run the first run page where I can install sample items. |
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| 08:39 | kf | hmpf. |
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| 08:51 | Braedon | hmpf? |
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| 09:17 | kf | Braedon: similar to harumph |
| 09:17 | Braedon | indeed |
| 09:17 | more inquiring as to the reason :P | |
| 09:17 | kf | Braedon: express a feeling associated with negative karma for soemthing or someone |
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| 09:18 | kf | firefox print menu broken |
| 09:18 | Braedon | ahh |
| 09:18 | kf | took me an hour until I could print again |
| 09:18 | Braedon | beta? |
| 09:18 | kf | no |
| 09:18 | the current version | |
| 09:19 | perhaps a problem with an addon or printer installing and deinstalling. | |
| 09:19 | uninstalling... | |
| 09:19 | it's deinstallieren in German :) | |
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| 11:37 | ivanc | hi #koha |
| 11:37 | kf | hi ivanc |
| 11:37 | * kf | waves |
| 11:38 | ivanc | hi kf |
| 11:42 | * chris_n | greets kf && ivanc |
| 11:43 | ivanc | hallo cris_n |
| 11:45 | kf | hi chris_n :) |
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| 12:24 | nengard | morning all |
| 12:24 | owen | Hi nengard, #koha |
| 12:24 | nengard | wizzyrea those links you send me to the spanish manual give me a 404 |
| 12:25 | owen did you get my message yesterday about that patch? | |
| 12:25 | owen | Yes, and I am perplexed. But I didn't have a chance to look at it again yet. |
| 12:27 | nengard | k |
| 12:28 | chris_n | heya owen, nengard |
| 12:29 | owen | chris_n: Are you up for a question about date formatting in Perl? |
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| 12:30 | owen | Hi jwagner |
| 12:31 | kf | hi jwagner |
| 12:31 | jwagner | Hi, all. |
| 12:31 | chris_n | owen: I can give it a shot |
| 12:31 | hey jwagner | |
| 12:32 | owen | I'm trying to add a date to a page which outputs RSS |
| 12:34 | The standard requires an RFC-822 date-time | |
| 12:35 | I see another instance where Koha uses strftime() to format a time that way, but what I have to work with is an ISO datetime | |
| 12:36 | * chris_n | looks at something |
| 12:36 | owen | template->param(timestamp => strftime("%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S-00:00", gmtime)) |
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| 12:42 | chris_n | owen: have you looked at C4::Dates ? |
| 12:43 | owen | I did, but it's mostly over my head |
| 12:44 | chris_n | it does not look to produce rfc822 formats, but could be made to fairly easily I think |
| 12:46 | or perhaps something like this: http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/622 | |
| 12:46 | but it would be nice to add that format to C4::Dates and make it available to all of Koha | |
| 12:47 | with C4::Dates you just create a new date object handing it your current value and format | |
| 12:48 | then you call the output method with the format you want it to be converted to | |
| 12:48 | and there you go | |
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| 12:51 | hdl | I like it |
| 12:52 | chris_n++ atz++ | |
| 12:53 | chris_n | hey hdl |
| 12:53 | owen: I'll take a whack at adding rfc822 to C4:Dates during my lunch today | |
| 12:54 | owen | Thanks chris_n, I shall be in your debt |
| 12:54 | chris_n | kf: about? |
| 12:55 | kf | here |
| 12:56 | chris_n: yes | |
| 12:56 | chris_n | I just finished updating to the latest HEAD |
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| 12:57 | chris_n | I do see changes to cgi-bin/koha/members/notices.pl?borrowernumber=X |
| 12:57 | however, it now only shows notices with a failed status | |
| 12:57 | and they are filtered properly | |
| 12:57 | but it seems to me that it should show all notices for borrower X rather than only the failed ones | |
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| 12:59 | schuster | Must say chris_n is a wizard and love the quick label print option. |
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| 13:00 | schuster | Now if I could get a button at the bottom of the add and edit item screen that said Add/Save/Print spine label |
| 13:00 | * chris_n | appreciates the commendation, but did not write the quick label print code... only a lot of the label creator code :-) |
| 13:01 | schuster | hmmm... well then I have no idea where it came from or who I should thank - but it is a GREAT feature! |
| 13:02 | chris_n | kyle hall was the originator of that feature according to git |
| 13:03 | I'd like to add some sort of similar browser-based output to the full label tool | |
| 13:03 | then formatting could be done with css and perhaps the unicode issues overcome with other languages | |
| 13:05 | kf: can you direct me again to the patch you wanted me to test? | |
| 13:05 | kf | reading back mom |
| 13:06 | chris_n: I agree, it should show all notices not only failed - people will tell you the did not get one, it's good to see it was sent out | |
| 13:06 | chris_n | k, I'll work on a fix for that |
| 13:07 | kf | chris_n: bug 49904 |
| 13:07 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=49904 was not found. |
| 13:07 | kf | bug 4904 |
| 13:07 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4904 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Problem with printing fines in overdue notices |
| 13:07 | chris_n | the table has a sorter, so if one wanted, one could sort on the status field |
| 13:07 | kf | yep |
| 13:07 | chris_n | ok, I'll try to get to testing your patch today or tomorrow |
| 13:07 | kf | we discussed this page and there were different opinions |
| 13:08 | I would like the message text to be a link, so you could show it formatted in a separate window | |
| 13:08 | hard to read the way it is now | |
| 13:08 | chris_n: thx! :) | |
| 13:09 | owen | kf has returned from a distopian future with news of Bug 49904 ! |
| 13:09 | * owen | hopes our monkey/robot/alien overlords are merciful |
| 13:10 | kf | lol |
| 13:10 | chris_n | kf: ahh... that was my mistake you are fixing :-) |
| 13:10 | kf | I am testing/documenting batch item modification |
| 13:10 | can someone tell me what the back button on the last page does? | |
| 13:10 | chris_n | I was having a hard time understanding how to properly format for utf-8 |
| 13:11 | kf | scan barcodes, make change, save, see screen with back button that does not undo changes or make it possible to make more changes |
| 13:11 | chris_n | kf: I'll test it and sign off on it |
| 13:11 | kf | chris_n: great! :) |
| 13:11 | my coworker suggested the change - he does a lot of data migration things | |
| 13:17 | chris_n | through some freak arrangement of fingers on keyboard, /me ends up typing "git retch" rather than fetch |
| 13:21 | jwagner | chris_n, your fingers have a low opinion of git? |
| 13:21 | * kf | goes to look up retch |
| 13:21 | kf | oh |
| 13:22 | chris_n | or for wanting git to spill its guts :-P |
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| 13:23 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 13:23 | chris_n | hi jcamins |
| 13:23 | kf | hi jcamins |
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| 13:57 | kf | owen++ :) |
| 14:01 | owen: what do you think about 5210? | |
| 14:02 | remove the button? | |
| 14:02 | owen | Yes, I was just about to do so. |
| 14:02 | I can't see any reason for it to be there. | |
| 14:03 | kf | yep |
| 14:03 | it's confusing | |
| 14:03 | I thought it would allow to make more changes, but you can't | |
| 14:04 | owen | It might be a nice feature, but you'd have to build in a way to re-submit the list of barcodes/itemnumbers |
| 14:05 | kf | it does not show the changes you made when you go back |
| 14:05 | i think for the moment it's best to remove the button | |
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| 14:09 | kf | hm, question: I am logged in with superlibrarian and all permissions selected, I have AllowHoldPolicyOverride set to ON, but I don't see the button to overwrite my renewl limit in checkout |
| 14:09 | sekjal | kf: I wonder if that's related to bug 4449 |
| 14:09 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4449 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW, Cannot place holds on unchecked-out missing items if AllowShelfHolds turned off |
| 14:10 | sekjal | seems like the override policy option doesn't override everything |
| 14:10 | kf | I am not sure this is even the right sys prefs |
| 14:10 | I am not trying to place hodls but renew checkouts where the limit is reached | |
| 14:11 | or that are not renewalbe | |
| 14:11 | I trained my librarians to do that... documenting some features today and checking if it still works in 3.2 :) | |
| 14:13 | oh | |
| 14:13 | my fault | |
| 14:13 | I really had the wrong sys pref, it's AllowRenewalLimitOverride | |
| 14:13 | sekjal | ah |
| 14:15 | kf | but would be nice to have that as permission instead |
| 14:16 | oh | |
| 14:16 | there is one | |
| 14:16 | * kf | goes back to do more testing |
| 14:19 | chris_n | are successfully delivered messages purged from the db entirely? |
| 14:20 | * chris_n | thinks it is so |
| 14:20 | kf | chris_n: I think no |
| 14:20 | jwagner | chris_n, do you mean in the message queue? |
| 14:20 | chris_n | which means there is no record of what messages were sent to a patron |
| 14:20 | jwagner | Old messages are still there unless you manually purge the table. |
| 14:20 | chris_n | hmm |
| 14:20 | kf | or at least it is not like that in 3.01.61 and I think they should not be deleted |
| 14:20 | * chris_n | will look again |
| 14:21 | kf | ourl ibraries need the information a notice was sent out - I hope this has not changed |
| 14:22 | wizzyrea | chris_n: i'm wondering where the notices/messaging tabs pull their information from if the messages aren't kept |
| 14:22 | on the members pages | |
| 14:23 | (meaning, I'm pretty sure they are kept) | |
| 14:23 | chris_n | they are there... most of them at least |
| 14:24 | kf | chris_n: the print notices are not shown |
| 14:25 | it only works for the email messages | |
| 14:25 | chris_n | interesting... the message_queue.borrowernumber seems to get set to NULL once the message status changes to sent |
| 14:25 | weirdness | |
| 14:26 | wizzyrea | there was some development that saved those print notices in a web accessible directory by our friends in bethesda |
| 14:26 | chris_n | or at least in one case... |
| 14:26 | * wizzyrea | hasn't used it though |
| 14:26 | kf | chris_n: sounds strange, I did a lot of notices testing |
| 14:27 | I have not seen something like that there | |
| 14:27 | testing with 3.01.61 most of the time | |
| 14:27 | sekjal | just found a fun bug in overdue_notices.pl |
| 14:27 | jcamins | sekjal: I love fun bugs. |
| 14:27 | * kf | is not surprised, it's 11 pages long |
| 14:28 | sekjal | when you use the <item>.... </item> option for specifying fields, the code confuses the biblionumber with the itemnumber |
| 14:28 | chris_n | ok, it appears to have been corrupt data, but for the life of me I don't know how that field was set to null |
| 14:29 | sekjal | so you get the right biblio.title and biblio.author, but the item.itemcallnumber or item.barcode from the wrong item |
| 14:29 | * chris_n | confesses to being responsible for part of that code |
| 14:29 | kf | I think too many people are responsible for parts of that code |
| 14:30 | sekjal | line 673 is the root of it, I believe |
| 14:30 | * jcamins | is very glad he hasn't had to work with that code |
| 14:30 | * chris_n | is mucking through some of it atm |
| 14:30 | * kf | will have to work with it :( |
| 14:30 | kf | chris suggested that some of it shoudl be part of C4 - it's really long and confusing |
| 14:30 | sekjal | the whole notices system needs an overhaul |
| 14:31 | * chris_n | agrees with sekjal |
| 14:31 | chris_n | we need hourly fines badly |
| 14:31 | sekjal | well, at least that'll come with hourly circ |
| 14:31 | kf | perhaps some other glitches can be repaired then too |
| 14:31 | chris_n | btw, does the fines system honor library operating hours? |
| 14:31 | kf | make it more flexible... |
| 14:31 | the fines system does | |
| 14:31 | honor the days | |
| 14:31 | the notices system not | |
| 14:32 | I wanted to write a bug report for that :( | |
| 14:32 | chris_n | ie. we don't fine for reference works kept over the weekend |
| 14:32 | ahh | |
| 14:32 | ouch, rather | |
| 14:32 | kf | chris_n: I think it's not a big problem for you then, no notices on closed days - alhtough I think there is a sys pref involved here |
| 14:33 | noFinesWhenClosed - FineDays I think | |
| 14:33 | but the notices are sent out without the calendar | |
| 14:33 | it's a big problem for us, because we need to tie fine and notice together | |
| 14:33 | sekjal | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/Hourly_Loans_RFC |
| 14:33 | kf | already printed it :) will read later! |
| 14:34 | chris_n | tnx sekjal |
| 14:35 | kf | sys pref and permission for overriding reneal limit work fine :) |
| 14:35 | sekjal | I humbly ask anyone interested to read it, ask questions, make comments and suggestion changes |
| 14:35 | the goal is to make it work for everyone | |
| 14:36 | chris_n | ok, so where do I find the calendar settings? |
| 14:36 | kf | sekjal++ |
| 14:36 | tools > calendar? | |
| 14:36 | * chris_n | wonders why he was under sysprefs... :-P |
| 14:36 | kf | FineDays is a sys pref |
| 14:38 | chris_n | kf: got it setup, thanks |
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| 14:51 | jcamins | Has anyone replaced the Koha cataloging module with a more flexible interface (other than biblios)? |
| 14:51 | kf | hm, I remember someone talking about something more like a text editor |
| 14:52 | not sure who it was, perhaps kyle hall | |
| 14:52 | sekjal | pianohack made a plain-text editor interface |
| 14:52 | kf | ah |
| 14:52 | sorry, I was wrong | |
| 14:52 | jcamins | @seen pianohack |
| 14:52 | munin | jcamins: pianohack was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 5 days, 20 hours, 1 minute, and 9 seconds ago: <pianohack> How's it going? |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | and you can always generate records in whatever you want and import them |
| 14:52 | owen | That's what we do |
| 14:53 | sekjal | http://github.com/pianohacker/koha |
| 14:53 | jcamins | Nifty, thanks. |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea: the problem with using MarcEdit for cataloging is that it adds a whole bunch of steps, and can only be done on the one computer with MarcEdit. | |
| 14:58 | wizzyrea | I didn't say it was the right way :) |
| 14:59 | jcamins | If we had OCLC, that would be the preferred method. |
| 15:00 | I wonder if SkyRiver has an actual cataloging utility. | |
| 15:03 | kf | owen: bug or feature: overwrite renewal checkbox checked, field for choosing manual renewal does only appear on tab details, not on tab checkouts |
| 15:04 | date field | |
| 15:05 | owen | Bug: it appears only after you have checked out something |
| 15:05 | kf | is there a bug report? |
| 15:05 | owen | I don't know |
| 15:06 | Bug 5051 | |
| 15:06 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5051 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab |
| 15:07 | kf | ah, I will add a comment |
| 15:07 | thx! | |
| 15:10 | which version is right for this bug? 3.2? 3.4? | |
| 15:10 | currently it's HEAD | |
| 15:12 | owen | I think HEAD is okay. |
| 15:12 | I'm not sure any more fixes are getting into 3.2 | |
| 15:13 | jcamins | pianohack++ |
| 15:13 | I like the text editor. | |
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| 15:23 | jcamins | @seen wasabi |
| 15:23 | munin | jcamins: wasabi was last seen in #koha 11 hours, 48 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <wasabi> morning amit |
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| 15:31 | owen | Man, the TMPL markup responsible for Bug 5051 makes my head hurt, partly because I know I wrote it! |
| 15:31 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5051 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab |
| 15:31 | * owen | git blames himself |
| 15:35 | * kf | shares a cookie with owen |
| 15:38 | wizzyrea | owen: does nelsonville restrict holds between branches? (do you use the itype holds rules) |
| 15:39 | owen | No |
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| 15:39 | wizzyrea | k thx, just curious |
| 15:42 | kf | ok, time to leave :) bye all1 |
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| 16:05 | jcamins | Is there any way to find out what sysprefs have been changed from their default values? |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | it would be neat to have that for usr |
| 16:05 | sure | |
| 16:06 | I suppose you could export the sysprefs table and diff it against the default rules | |
| 16:06 | jcamins | I don't think I care that much, but that seems like a reasonable way to do it. |
| 16:06 | wizzyrea | (or the rules that are in the installer data folder) |
| 16:07 | owen | Perhaps the description of each preference should show what the default is? |
| 16:08 | "OPACFRBRizeEditions [Show] other editions of an item on the OPAC. Default: Don't show." | |
| 16:08 | jcamins | That would be helpful. |
| 16:10 | I'm on a documentation kick, and having some trouble remembering what needs to be documented, and what doesn't. | |
| 16:10 | owen | Ideas without implementations are free! Implementations on the other hand... |
| 16:10 | jcamins | owen: what, you mean you don't have the implementation in your patches-to-send queue? ;) |
| 16:11 | Hey, this is weird. | |
| 16:11 | On HEAD, if you click the link to go to System Preferences, it brings you to the local use tab, and shows no preferences. | |
| 16:12 | However, if you click another tab, and then click on the local use tab, all your local use preferences show up. | |
| 16:14 | sekjal | jcamins: looks like all the links haven't been updated yet for bug 3756 |
| 16:14 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3756 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, new sys prefs - no way to add a new local use preference |
| 16:15 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 16:15 | owen | Bug 5100 |
| 16:15 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5100 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Incorrect link to System Preferences |
| 16:15 | owen | Not in my patches-to-send queue jcamins, but in my patches-awaiting-approval queue :) |
| 16:16 | jcamins | Has anyone else noticed that I use the phrase "hey, this is weird" (or some variation) at least once a day? |
| 16:16 | sekjal | owen: did you want a sign-off on that? I'm in that kind of mode right now. |
| 16:17 | owen | Feel free! |
| 16:19 | I wish bugzilla would track who attached the latest patch. Then you could make a list of bugs others have submitted patches for | |
| 16:19 | Maybe with the "advanced search using boolean charts" | |
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| 16:36 | jcamins | What happened to the patch for bug 5101? |
| 16:36 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5101 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Creators tab isn't highlighted when selected |
| 16:36 | owen | What do you mean? |
| 16:37 | jcamins | I thought I remembered it being pushed, but my demo running HEAD still shows the bug. |
| 16:37 | sekjal | jcamins: doesn't look like it was commited yet |
| 16:38 | owen | Nope |
| 16:38 | jcamins | Okay, just so long as everyone agrees about that. :) After the weirdness with the ANS's catalog missing a few commits, I'm a little paranoid about these things. |
| 16:43 | sekjal | signed off on bug 5101 |
| 16:43 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5101 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Creators tab isn't highlighted when selected |
| 16:45 | wizzyrea | urg. The slips don't include intranetuserjs |
| 16:45 | at least the hold transit slips dont | |
| 16:45 | er | |
| 16:45 | well let me qualify that | |
| 16:45 | the version I'm using doesn't allow that | |
| 16:45 | >.> | |
| 16:46 | So. I need a way to modify them. How... | |
| 16:48 | owen | Yeah, sorry wizzyrea , the slip page is designed to be lean and speedy |
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| 16:48 | wizzyrea | if only there were an intranetusercss |
| 16:48 | ok | |
| 16:48 | then I have a suggestion | |
| 16:48 | well | |
| 16:48 | never mind | |
| 16:48 | actually | |
| 16:48 | owen | :D |
| 16:48 | wizzyrea | let me verify it's actually a problem still on head |
| 16:49 | and aside from that | |
| 16:49 | I"ll just f-in fix it if it is. | |
| 16:50 | owen | f-in a. |
| 16:50 | wizzyrea | ;) |
| 16:51 | aside: http://screencast.com/t/ZTYzMDMw | |
| 16:51 | are those itype images? | |
| 16:51 | owen | Yes |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 16:51 | wonder why they're broken | |
| 16:52 | * wizzyrea | puts it on the list |
| 16:52 | owen | It's working for me in HEAD |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | hm |
| 16:53 | owen | (I don't have a broken image I mean) |
| 16:54 | wizzyrea | ooh, I wasn't quite up to date |
| 16:54 | do you have the pref to show them on? | |
| 16:55 | I don't maybe that's the difference | |
| 16:56 | urg, no. w/e | |
| 16:56 | owen | ? |
| 16:56 | wizzyrea | it's broken with the pref either way, but I'm workin on something else it'll have to wait. :/ |
| 16:58 | owen | wizzyrea: Looks like if you don't have an item type image specified you get a broken image. That's a new bug |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea | Oh. |
| 16:58 | well I will file one then :P | |
| 16:59 | * owen | hates hates hates that Firefox doesn't show a broken image icon for broken images |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | they're "helping" |
| 17:00 | owen | I'm surprised a developer hasn't come up with an add-on to fix that by now |
| 17:08 | nengard | can anyone tell me how to force my system to generate overdue notices? |
| 17:08 | I tried the following: | |
| 17:08 | nengard debian:~/kohaclone$ misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl |
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| 17:08 | nengarddebian:~/kohaclone$ misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl -t |
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| 17:08 | but neither seemed to generate notices | |
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| 17:17 | jcamins | Why _isn't_ there an IntranetCSS option? |
| 17:17 | I don't need one, I'm just curious. | |
| 17:18 | owen | It's just an oversight |
| 17:18 | Bug 3381 | |
| 17:18 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3381 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Add an IntranetUserCSS system preference |
| 17:18 | jcamins | Ah. Good explanation. |
| 17:18 | nengard | :) |
| 17:21 | hdl | nengard: overdunotices generates mail which have to be processed by process_message_queue in message_queue table |
| 17:21 | nengard | hdl, the messages aren't in my queue even ... |
| 17:21 | hdl | huh??? |
| 17:21 | nengard | hang on - going to look once more ... |
| 17:22 | cait | hi koha |
| 17:22 | nengard | hdl, the only messages in my queue are hold messages |
| 17:22 | it makes no sense | |
| 17:23 | hdl | is it a fresh master ? |
| 17:23 | jcamins | hi cait |
| 17:24 | nengard | hdl yes - just did a rebase yesterday |
| 17:24 | but obviously something is wrong in my install | |
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| 17:31 | nengard | okay i tried to reset again and still nothing ... here's what I did: |
| 17:31 | nengarddebian:~/kohaclone$ git checkout -b newhead origin |
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| 17:31 | Branch newhead set up to track remote branch refs/remotes/origin/master. | |
| 17:31 | Switched to a new branch "newhead" | |
| 17:31 | nengarddebian:~/kohaclone$ misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl |
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| 17:31 | nengarddebian:~/kohaclone$ git reset --hard HEAD |
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| 17:31 | HEAD is now at e58961f Merge branch 'translation' of git://git.workbuffer.org/git/koha into to-push | |
| 17:31 | nengarddebian:~/kohaclone$ misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl |
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| 17:37 | hdl | mmmm do you have overduerules set ? |
| 17:39 | nengard | hdl, which are you talking about? I have notice triggers set and I have it set to YES for overdue notices on the patron categories ... off to double and triple check though |
| 17:39 | cait | nengard: have you added rules to the standard library? |
| 17:39 | notice trigger rules for standard library | |
| 17:39 | finesMode to production | |
| 17:40 | nengard | cait you mean default library? |
| 17:40 | cait | yep |
| 17:40 | I had problems with that in the past | |
| 17:40 | nengard | yes - and as for finesmode - why would that matter - this is for an overdue notice not to accrue fines |
| 17:40 | cait | never add ntoice triggers for default library |
| 17:40 | you are right about the findeMode | |
| 17:41 | nengard | cait - actually i only have triggers for the default library - not the others |
| 17:41 | cait | delete them and add one for the specific library |
| 17:41 | there is an old bug and I don't remember it was fixed | |
| 17:43 | bug 3393 | |
| 17:43 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3393 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Default branches and overdues notices |
| 17:43 | nengard | i'll try that cait |
| 17:44 | cait | I spend more time with fines and notices than I ever wanted to :) |
| 17:44 | nengard | yes |
| 17:47 | HA!!!! that did it!!!! | |
| 17:47 | what a HUGE BUG! | |
| 17:47 | cait++ | |
| 17:47 | cait | and very old too |
| 17:47 | I tracked a lot of duplicates | |
| 17:48 | happy that it works now :) | |
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| 17:48 | sekjal | I patched 3393... and I thought it got commited... huh |
| 17:49 | francharb left #koha | |
| 17:50 | nengard | sekjal, i think owen's comment on that bug means it was pushed to 3.x but not HEAD |
| 17:50 | cait | I think there was a patch galen commented too |
| 17:51 | sekjal | weird. I'm seeing that I sent it three times |
| 17:53 | cait | hm and paul and nahuel had patches too |
| 17:53 | ah, paul not, misreading the bug | |
| 17:53 | rhcl_away is now known as rhcl | |
| 17:53 | cait | sekjal: is your patch in bugzilla? I have checked the duplicate bugs but only found nahuel's patch |
| 17:54 | sekjal | I must have only gotten halfway through the publication process |
| 17:54 | I blame too much multitasking | |
| 17:55 | cait | chris_n: now I found the bug... bug 3941 |
| 17:55 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3941 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Notices Tab on Patron Records Showing All Msgs |
| 17:56 | rhcl | is this a good working example of a cronjob I can use? |
| 17:56 | overdue_notices.pl -t -html /tmp/noticedir -itemscontent issuedate,date_due,title,barcode,author | |
| 17:56 | If I only what printed output (to a text file), do I need to add "-n" or is that handled by the "html" | |
| 17:56 | ? | |
| 17:57 | chris_n | cait: it seems to work in the current HEAD |
| 17:57 | rhcl | overdue_notices.pl -n -t -html /tmp/noticedir -itemscontent issuedate,date_due,title,barcode,author |
| 17:57 | chris_n | cait: I wonder if that bug should be closed out? |
| 17:57 | cait | chris_n: if you tested it make a comment and close it :) |
| 17:57 | chris_n | will do, its on my list :-) |
| 17:58 | today has been a Koha day for me :) | |
| 17:59 | cait | for me every day is a koha day - love my job :) |
| 17:59 | nengard | cait you helped me be able to test sekjal's patch |
| 17:59 | thanks! | |
| 17:59 | cait | happy that I was able to help |
| 17:59 | nengard | also - same here! koha day everyday! love it! |
| 18:03 | sekjal | okay, published my patch for 3393 on bugs.k-c |
| 18:03 | not sure what I was thinking or doing when I originally sent it to the list | |
| 18:08 | * owen | wonders what he was doing before lunch |
| 18:09 | * wizzyrea | too |
| 18:10 | cait | me too |
| 18:10 | not my day, threw sugar pot on the floor, spilled green tea and tried to soak kitchen in hot chocolate | |
| 18:10 | all in the last 10 minutes | |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | wow |
| 18:11 | nengard | hot chocolate and green tea??? |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | ^^ is relevant to my interests |
| 18:11 | cait | why not? |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 18:11 | nengard | just wondering why you're drinking them both at the same time |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | why not? |
| 18:11 | cait | the hot chocolate goes first |
| 18:11 | nengard | ahh - see now it's okay :) |
| 18:12 | hehe - maybe i'm the weird one :) | |
| 18:12 | cait | it's getting colder here and I have to read that xslt chapter for my distance study |
| 18:12 | nengard | i live on green tea |
| 18:12 | cait | I need every help I can get |
| 18:13 | organic japan sencha - yum | |
| 18:15 | nengard | hmmmm - dont think i've had that |
| 18:16 | genmai is my tea of choice | |
| 18:16 | cait | wizzyrea: your bug sounds familiar - bug 3524 |
| 18:16 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3524 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Display of item type image/description when placing holds (broken image / no description) |
| 18:16 | nengard | but i also have a tea from teavanna that's a mix of jsmine green and tropical roobis (spell?) |
| 18:16 | wizzyrea | ok cool |
| 18:16 | well I"ll just dump mine then | |
| 18:16 | cait | no, mine was fixed |
| 18:16 | but I wonder if it crept in | |
| 18:16 | back | |
| 18:16 | nengard | it's great to have so many people around to remember bugs !! |
| 18:17 | wizzyrea | well it's definitely back |
| 18:17 | owen | If anyone is curious, this works: http://www.deuxcode.com/articl[…]olders-in-firefox |
| 18:17 | cait | I will remember bugs but not the the things from my distace study course :( |
| 18:17 | wizzyrea | heyyyy neat |
| 18:18 | cait | nengard: I have to try jasmine tea soon |
| 18:18 | nengard | sometimes it's too strong on it's own |
| 18:18 | cait | nengard: do you know chocolate with green tea (matcha)? I love it |
| 18:19 | but it's difficult to get | |
| 18:19 | nengard | i haven't |
| 18:19 | but does sound yumm | |
| 18:19 | wizzyrea | does anybody have a SSL HEAD handy? |
| 18:19 | * wizzyrea | doesn't |
| 18:19 | cait | ssl head? |
| 18:19 | wizzyrea | a version of koha running head (or close to it) that uses SSL |
| 18:19 | https | |
| 18:20 | cait | ah |
| 18:20 | ours are 3.01.61 | |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | do you use SSL? |
| 18:20 | cait | all using https |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | WOO |
| 18:20 | ok | |
| 18:20 | chris | Morning |
| 18:20 | cait | you get some ugly error message with amazon features turned on, but works without problems |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | do you have any issues with it kicking you out of secure access surrounding z searching, advanced searches |
| 18:21 | cait | not really error messages - warnings from firefox about content from another url |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | or hangs while importing messages |
| 18:21 | hangs while importing records | |
| 18:21 | hey chris | |
| 18:21 | how's the kiddo (and the rest of the fam, for that matter) | |
| 18:21 | cait | I do not often import records in staff, but never had any problems |
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| 18:21 | cait | morning chris |
| 18:21 | chris | On the mend but still sick last I heard |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | :/ |
| 18:21 | cait | and my librarians reported no kick outs |
| 18:22 | :( | |
| 18:22 | what happened? | |
| 18:22 | wizzyrea | cool beans, thanks for checking cait |
| 18:22 | cait | no problem |
| 18:23 | we are using https from the beginning, I think serious problems should have shown up by now | |
| 18:23 | nengard | chris, that's good news |
| 18:23 | wizzyrea | right, my librarians report being kicked out when they click on the advanced intranet search |
| 18:24 | er, kicked to regular http | |
| 18:24 | but | |
| 18:24 | that's not HEAD | |
| 18:25 | * wizzyrea | would like to hear that it doesn't happen that way on HEASD |
| 18:25 | nengard | wizzyrea we have some customers running that wy |
| 18:25 | way | |
| 18:25 | i'll see if i can find one | |
| 18:26 | chris | Yeah I haven't seen that in master |
| 18:26 | cait | wizzyrea: I think my test installation is not running on https, but will check at work tomorrow |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | k sec screencast for reproduce inc |
| 18:26 | http://screencast.com/t/YzRkMWQyNj | |
| 18:26 | nengard | wizzyrea, in the staff client on a near HEAD install when i click advanced it keeps me in https |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | what happens when you search |
| 18:27 | nengard | after searching it stays |
| 18:27 | wizzyrea | woot ok good |
| 18:27 | * wizzyrea | feels happy |
| 18:28 | nengard | i clicked your link but it didn't show me anything - cause i'm probably blocking the script :) |
| 18:28 | wizzyrea | it's flash |
| 18:28 | dk | |
| 18:28 | nengard | yeah for some reason flashblock isn't showing me the play button |
| 18:29 | wizzyrea | :/ the highlight is |
| 18:30 | if you search for something from https, once you click "search" it gives you results in http | |
| 18:30 | but | |
| 18:30 | since you have verified that master doesn't do that | |
| 18:30 | it's of no concern here. | |
| 18:32 | chris | :) |
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| 18:42 | briceSanc | hello ! |
| 18:47 | chris | Hi bricesanc |
| 18:47 | briceSanc | Do you know the technical characteristics to operate KOHA (CPU, RAM, Disk space,...)? |
| 18:48 | chris | How long is a piece of string? |
| 18:48 | :) | |
| 18:48 | briceSanc | Do you know the techs specs to run KOHA (CPU, RAM, Disk space,...)? (better than google translate :) |
| 18:48 | chris | It totally depends on the size of the library |
| 18:49 | schuster | Size of library, number of anticipated users, number of transactions... |
| 18:50 | chris | Ps its Koha .... not an acronym, but a maori word :) |
| 18:50 | sekjal | briceSanc: for production libraries of a small size, I'd recommend at least 512MB RAM and 20GB. More for larger, certainly |
| 18:50 | owen | KOHA = Kalamazoo Optimist Hockey Association |
| 18:50 | sekjal | sorry, 20GB diskspace |
| 18:51 | schuster | I have 68 locations do over 30,000 circs a day hundreds of opac hits a day about 250,000 bibs, 1.3 million items. I'm running a Dell 2950 - 2 quad processors |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | 30k circs a day! |
| 18:51 | srs?! | |
| 18:51 | that's super cool. | |
| 18:52 | chris | For schusters id actually have a db server sep |
| 18:52 | And a couple of load balanced webservers | |
| 18:52 | schuster | 16 GB of memory, 8 - 146 gb drives with raid 10 |
| 18:52 | chris | Just for redundancy |
| 18:53 | owen | 30,000 / 68 is only 441, so it's not crazy at all |
| 18:53 | schuster | We are looking at moving Zebra and the indexes to another server right now we are being hammered by orientation and kids learning how to use the pac |
| 18:53 | between the hours of 8 and 2 by the way on circ and most of the circ is really done by about 46 of the schools. | |
| 18:54 | (elementary) Checkin is amazing in the morning... We don't circulate magazines as it slows the process WAY down. | |
| 18:54 | They do about 20,000 checkins every morning between 7-9 at those 46 schools. | |
| 18:54 | wizzyrea | ^^ seems a bit amazing to me still |
| 18:55 | schuster | me too... |
| 18:55 | wizzyrea | but maybe it's just all the 0's |
| 18:55 | chris | Zebra and mysql both use io a lot sep servers is good |
| 18:55 | schuster | To think that there is just a librarian and MAYBE a volunteer... |
| 18:56 | chris - when we started having near stoppages due to searches taking forever I decided to move our discussion about what would help in the short term and you had suggested the Zebra move. | |
| 18:56 | chris | You can run multiple zebra too |
| 18:57 | Ie 2 frontends with their own zebra | |
| 18:57 | That talk back to one db server | |
| 18:58 | schuster | In about 4 weeks it will become a non issue so one Zebra will probably suffice. |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | what happens in 4 weeks? |
| 18:58 | schuster | I just want to speed up the cko/cki/patron lookup... and still be able to allow kids to search. |
| 18:59 | chris | Yep moving the searches to their own machine |
| 18:59 | schuster | Library orientation will be over and they will go to teaching library lessons on literature and using other databases. They are reminding the kids now how to look up books. |
| 18:59 | chris | Is the perfect way |
| 18:59 | wizzyrea | oh |
| 18:59 | chris | Ie the opac is one server, with its own Zebra |
| 19:00 | schuster | So we have 68 schools and probably every hour we have 2 schools with a total of 60 kids doing a very basic search all at the same time bumps the load average from 2 to 45 in about 3 minutes and circ crawls |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | wow, yea it sounds like you have a need for some infrastructure design there. |
| 19:01 | schuster | opac wil still be on the production server, but moving the indexing I think will help the most for now. |
| 19:01 | chris | It will help some |
| 19:01 | But they are still holding open an apache thread | |
| 19:01 | That circ then can't use | |
| 19:02 | * chris | has learnt lots from stuff.co.nz , millions of hits each hour etc |
| 19:03 | schuster | Not optimal, but I need to make due with what I have right now. Can't make too many changes in the middle of a school year. Will have to talk with my vendor about local optimization changes for next summer. |
| 19:03 | chris | Good luck with that |
| 19:04 | briceSanc | In my case, each library will have about 13 simultaneous connections to the database, 40 permanent connections to KOHA and 200,000 references. What are my technical requirements? |
| 19:04 | schuster | I like having the servers local and not in the cloud... |
| 19:04 | chris | Yup |
| 19:04 | I would too | |
| 19:04 | schuster | They are open to helping me which is good... |
| 19:05 | briceSanc - you don't need much... There are companies that will actually host it for you in the cloud if you don't want to deal with the hardware... | |
| 19:05 | chris | Maybe you can ask them to stop attacking the rest of us :) |
| 19:05 | schuster | ;) |
| 19:06 | chris | Yeah a single server would be enough for that bricesanc, backed up of course |
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| 19:13 | briceSanc | schuster, my company also hosts websites but KOHA is new for us, so we are trying to make the good choice. |
| 19:14 | owen | briceSanc: Koha is not an acronym, so it should not be in all-capitals. Koha is a Maori word. |
| 19:14 | schuster | Koha not KOHA |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | clearly it's a common peeve. :) |
| 19:16 | nengard | it's certainly one of mine |
| 19:16 | wizzyrea | mine too :) |
| 19:16 | nengard | i've actually added a slide to my koha talks about it |
| 19:16 | schuster | You know you are popular when??? |
| 19:17 | owen | Someone needs to let Bugzilla's quips list know: "Depending on the situation, it might be written "koha" or "Koha" or maybe even "KOHA". Writing "kOha" just means you got the shifting out of sync, though." |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 19:17 | @quote random | |
| 19:17 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #26: "<chris> as an aside C4::Search makes my brain hurt" (added by jdavidb at 05:21 PM, August 22, 2009) |
| 19:18 | wizzyrea | @quote add Koha is not an acronym, so it should not be in all-capitals. Koha is a Maori word. |
| 19:18 | munin | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #93 added. |
| 19:18 | wizzyrea | @quote get 93 |
| 19:18 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #93: "Koha is not an acronym, so it should not be in all-capitals. Koha is a Maori word." (added by wizzyrea at 03:20 PM, September 09, 2010) |
| 19:18 | chris | Ok time to pack up and start driving to auckland |
| 19:19 | Then fly home | |
| 19:19 | wizzyrea | there, now we can just @quote get 93 and be done with it |
| 19:19 | chris | Cyas later |
| 19:19 | owen | Have a good one chris |
| 19:19 | wizzyrea | later chris save travels |
| 19:19 | safe* | |
| 19:19 | schuster | We have an all division meeting at 3:30 so about 300 of your closest employee friends in administration. |
| 19:19 | I'll be leaving soon to get a parking spot! | |
| 19:20 | briceSanc | We have 20 libraries to host, the smallest with 13 simultaneous users and 200,000 records and the biggest with 150 users and 300,000 records. We've thought of 5 servers (5 * 4 Koha) - 2 x Quad core - 16Gb of RAM - 500GB / Koha - all powered with KVM or XEN. We just have lack of precision, so we ask you to help make the right choices. |
| 19:22 | owen, schuster, Ok for Koha :) | |
| 19:23 | cait | @whois briceSanc |
| 19:23 | munin | cait: Error: <domain> must be in .com, .net, .edu, or .org. |
| 19:23 | cait | *sigh* |
| 19:23 | where are you located briceSanc? | |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | cait: /whois briceSanc |
| 19:23 | briceSanc | Qu�bec (QC), Canada |
| 19:23 | cait | yep |
| 19:24 | ah :) | |
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| 19:43 | cait | wb owen |
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| 19:43 | * owen | suffered a strange loss of connectivity |
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| 19:48 | reva | Hi anyone (jcamin, owen, or chris_n, wizzyrea or Braedon): where is the opac serial issue display count? I have 3.00.06. |
| 19:49 | cait | I think there is a sys pref perhaps in 3.00.6 |
| 19:49 | reva | I do not find it "serials" under system preferences at all as the 3.0 manual says. |
| 19:49 | cait | not sure there is one in the subscription in this version |
| 19:50 | reva | ok, cait: I do not find serials on the left panel among the menu choices. May be it is not available for 3.0.6. |
| 19:51 | cait | sorry, I have no 3.0.x to look at |
| 19:51 | ah, I send a patch to show publication place | |
| 19:51 | owen | What are you trying to see reva? |
| 19:51 | cait | last week? not sure. but I promised you I would :) |
| 19:52 | reva | cait: I want to control the number itmized serial holdings on the opac. |
| 19:52 | I was just going to remind you of the patch. Thanks cait: | |
| 19:53 | my email is reva12gmail.com. |
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| 19:53 | cait | I send it to the patches list, let me get the link for you |
| 19:54 | reva | ok, that would be great. |
| 19:54 | cait | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ugust/012495.html |
| 19:54 | bug 5187 | |
| 19:54 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5187 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Show place of publication (260$a) in OPAC/Staff |
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| 19:55 | cait | hope it's what you wanted, a real small change |
| 19:57 | reva | ok got it. I will look over it and see if I understand what it is doing before plunging in. But that is what I wanted. |
| 19:57 | cait | cool :) |
| 19:58 | reva | ok, it looks like there is no way to control the number of items displayed on the serial holdings. Thanks Cait: |
| 19:58 | cait | you can control the number of issues shown in the opac for subscriptions in 3.2 |
| 20:00 | reva | That is issue (no pun with serials) for another time, when the beta stable is released for 3.2 and we install it. |
| 20:03 | Bye for now. Are all of you from NZ? I hope people in Christchurch are getting the help they need. We have aquaintances who live there. | |
| 20:04 | cait | reva: I am from Germany |
| 20:04 | wizzyrea | < Kansas, US |
| 20:04 | cait | we are very international here .) |
| 20:06 | reva | Oh, I thought maybe there were some people from NZ. But best from here, the Caribbean. Thanks for all the help.:) |
| 20:06 | cait | there are |
| 20:06 | but not only :) | |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | the kiwis are still getting to work ;) |
| 20:07 | it's tomorrow there. | |
| 20:08 | reva | That is right, and here we get to go home for the evening today. |
| 20:09 | * cait | is already at home and near bed time :) |
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| 20:10 | reva | Ok, you kind of win cait: But there is something to be said for looking forward than to experiencing the evening at home. There:). Bye for now. |
| 20:11 | cait | bye :) |
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| 20:17 | briceSanc | bye all ! |
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| 20:18 | cait | good night :) |
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| 20:39 | richard | hi |
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| 21:42 | chris | Hi from bucklame airport |
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| 21:43 | richard | bucklame? |
| 21:43 | chris | Auckland |
| 21:43 | richard | :) |
| 21:44 | chris | The old nokia phones predictive text used to convert it to that |
| 21:44 | Quite apt | |
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| 22:08 | robin | I always like "Funedin" |
| 22:09 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 22:09 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 21.5�C (3:07 PM PDT on September 09, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Falling). |
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| 22:21 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 22:21 | @wunder 56001 | |
| 22:21 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 17.1�C (5:23 PM CDT on September 09, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.00 in 981.9 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:21 | brendan | hi moodaepo |
| 22:21 | * moodaepo | ah what a difference a single space makes |
| 22:21 | moodaepo | hey brendan |
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