IRC log for #koha, 2010-09-03

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00:50 moo Hey guys, does someone have time to help me with a zebra password prob ?
01:01 yay, i figured it out... :-) thanks for your help yesterday chris / wasabi, I stumbled on this post which just helped me debug ;-) http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ugust/000296.html
01:01 later.
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02:15 cait hi #koha
02:15 chris cait??? isnt it like 2am?
02:15 cait 4:16
02:16 woke up at 3 and was not able to go back to sleep
02:16 chris thats still way to early
02:16 yikes
02:16 cait it is
02:17 richard happy early morning cait
02:18 cait hi richard
02:18 perhaps reading my distance study book will help :)
02:18 chris :)
02:19 cait have to finish it until 14th
02:29 hmpf. server down.
02:33 chris its sleeping :)
02:34 cait yeah, they do maintenance at this time
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03:22 schuster chris - when I did git branch I see master and *mywork
03:22 chris that means you are on the mywork branch
03:23 schuster ok - so what should I do to get this up to the current head?
03:24 chris current master .. what you do is git fetch
03:24 git rebase origin/master
03:24 schuster and it doesn't matter which branch I'm in right?
03:25 chris yes it does
03:25 schuster so which branch do I want to be in when I do that?
03:25 chris depends, i dont know what you use mywork for
03:25 id probably do it on master first
03:25 git checkout master
03:26 schuster ok - I'm pretty sure there isn't anything in mywork -
03:27 it tells me master is up to date.
03:27 chris you did the fetch and rebase eh?
03:28 schuster no didn't fetch - sorry so I should do that and then rebase ok
03:28 chris yes
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03:30 schuster ok those steps are done things happened so that's it I should be up to date?
03:30 Amit heya chris, schuster
03:30 schuster heya amit...
03:30 chris yup
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03:35 cait @wunder Konstanz
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03:36 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.6�C (5:36 AM CEST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).
03:36 * cait is still awake
03:36 chris yikes!
03:37 you are going to fall asleep on your desk
03:37 cait it's friday
03:37 can leave earlier today
03:37 chris good :)
03:38 cait :)
03:40 schuster @wunder 75035
03:40 munin schuster: The current temperature in Custer Creek Farms, Frisco, Texas is 22.2�C (10:28 PM CDT on September 02, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Rising).
03:41 schuster Thanks chris now off to read about testing...
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04:13 richard who does the editing on the koha-community site - wizzyrea?
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04:27 cait richard - she can edit the site, not sure who else
04:27 richard cool
04:28 i'll send her an email
04:28 found a bung link
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04:35 cait anyone knows a good xml editor? I need something to check my DTD, XML Schemas, XQuery, XPath homework
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05:05 cait bbl
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05:50 kf good morning #koha
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06:12 zen hello
06:14 kf hi zen
06:16 zen i am working @branch library and i am installing koha 3.0.06 and i want to integtated my koha with the main library koha
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06:18 kf zen: what do you mean by integrating? a
06:20 zen kf: we use different koha servers when my patrons wants to search data @main library they should have to open the main server
06:21 kf so you don't want to share one catalog?
06:21 zen no,what i want is there any mechansim that i can have a copy of the main library at my koha server.
06:22 kf I am not sure how to do it
06:22 perhaps you could use oai
06:22 I read some people have done similar things, but we have never done something like that
06:24 zen i try to google it but the most result i have got is integration with SIP something like.
06:25 kf sip is for self checkout
06:25 checkout, return, patron info
06:25 oai-pmh
06:26 or perhaps pazpar2
06:27 perhaps you could also do something on mysql level
06:27 but what would the copy on your server be good for?
06:28 Amit heya kf
06:29 kf hi Amit
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06:30 zen kf: for example i am working at agriculture library so in my database there is only agriculture bibliographic data when user wants  IT data he should have to open the main koha server.
06:31 kf hm, sounds complicated for the user :)
06:32 but why have a copy? can't he acces the main koha server via internet?
06:34 zen it is not a good a solution cause the branch is far 100 mile from main and the interent is not stable,but if i can dump the bibliographic data of the main library the user can easily  get the data.
06:36 kf hm ok, but he will not be able to place holds or see the real availablity
06:38 zen the question is can we integrate (connect) two mysql databases from different koha servers
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06:44 zen kf: is my question isn't clear?
06:45 kf I am perhaps just not the right person to talk to
06:46 zen ok thank you!
06:57 bye
06:57 kf bye :)
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07:21 Fred Hello
07:21 kf hi Fred
07:31 chris @wunder wellington, nz
07:31 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Rising).
07:31 chris s/rain showers/hail/
07:31 kf @wunder Konstanz
07:31 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.1�C (9:31 AM CEST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Steady).
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07:38 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Con2011_Proposals
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07:40 chris hi magnus
07:41 magnus hi chris
07:46 good to be back after a couple days traveling - sorry to miss the meeting
07:46 chris np, it was a nice short meeting
07:47 magnus yeah, i read the transcript
07:47 kf hi magnus
07:51 magnus guten tag, kf
07:54 chris: i didn't quite catch the situation with the main blocking bug for 3.2 - is there a patch that solves it or is the solution only partial so there has to be more patches for it?
07:57 chris the patch doesnt solve it
07:58 colin tested it and it still isnt quite right, its blocking anyone who uses acquisitons from being able to upgrade
07:58 i added to the bug how i did it manual
07:58 ly
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08:05 chris magnus: did you see http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n10_Social_Events ?
08:06 magnus yeah, lots of good ideas!
08:07 chris: thanks for putting me right about the blocker
08:07 chris feel free to add any you are thinking of, i thought ppl could use it to plan day trips and things
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09:30 Amit heya chris: Diwali Festival http://www.wotzon.com/eventlis[…]?event_id=5006803
09:31 hdl hi
09:31 hi amit
09:31 Amit hi hdl
09:47 kf hi hdl
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11:28 Amit heya jwagner
11:28 Happy Weekend to all ;)
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11:34 kf hi again #koha
11:34 forced_restart--
11:34 hdl: around?
11:34 hdl kf: yep
11:34 kf we have a new customer with RFID, they want to use 3M
11:35 http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]tization_solution
11:35 hdl work like a charm
11:35 kf great :)
11:35 has the universite self check?
11:35 jwagner Hi Amit
11:35 hdl kf: yep
11:35 kf hi jwagner :)
11:35 jwagner Hi kf
11:35 hdl using sip_server.sh
11:35 using sip_start.sh
11:35 sorry
11:35 kf no problem
11:36 we already have one library using rfid
11:36 but with another vendor
11:36 3M called and asked about Koha and SIP and I told them there are already other libraries using 3M - no searching for examples
11:36 now
11:37 hdl we have many libraries using that atm
11:37 Mines paris-tech  Lyon3 for instance
11:37 kf great, thx
11:37 is the old doc still relevant?
11:38 http://koha.org/documentation/[…]sip2-integration?
11:39 hdl yep atz++
11:39 kf cool - thx for your help!
11:39 hdl kf: there is a wrapper for perl -I./ ./SIPServer.pm ./SIPServer.xml >~/sip_log.out 2>~/sip_log.err &
11:39 sip_start
11:41 kf ?
11:41 sorry, I don't understand
11:42 I know about the xml configuration file, but the start/stop/reset things is my coworker's part
11:42 :)
11:42 hdl i.e. rather than using perl -I./ ./SIPServer.pm ./SIPServer.xml >~/sip_log.out 2>~/sip_log.err &
11:43 use sip_run.sh  SIPServer.xml ~/sip_log.out ~/sip_log.err
11:43 kf do yoour libraries renew via sip?
11:43 hdl I think so
11:44 it is also managed and controlled in the 3M configuration interface
11:44 kf hm?
11:44 hdl you can enable it i
11:44 in SIPconfig.xml
11:45 kf ah, I think we did that
11:45 hdl But you also have to  enable that on the selfcheckout engine
11:45 kf but our tests were a bit problematic
11:51 ok, thx a lot again :)
11:51 today is crazy friday - a lot of phone calls
11:54 hdl: are those libraries using "standard" koha, or did you have to change something to make it all work?
11:58 nah, I believe it will work - it does for our other library too.
12:08 nengard got a question about issues - i'm looking at data in my system and it looks like once an item is marked lost it is no longer in the issues table or the old_issues table ...does a record of that checkout just disappear?
12:08 hdl kf: it is standard SIP
12:08 service
12:09 kf hdl: great :)
12:09 nengard: ouch
12:09 nengard if it disappears - um - yes - ouch
12:10 but does it for others?
12:10 kf sorry, can't test right now
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12:43 nengard does anyone know if there is a way to have today's date print at the top of notices?
12:43 maybe a shortcode we can add to the notice templates?
12:53 okay - a different question - when does the HOLDPLACED notice get sent? Where does this come into play? it's not a choice on enhanced messages
12:55 kf nengard: sys pref
12:55 nengard checking now
12:55 kf nengard: the notice send to the librarian that a hold was placed
12:55 nengard OH RIGHT!!!
12:55 Thank you :)
12:56 kf you are welcome :)
12:56 I think it was not really working for a long time and the sample notice is quite new too
12:58 nengard i was blinded by the question i was being asked- which focused on patrons getting the email and forgot to think about the librarian :)
12:59 kf I can totally understand
13:00 the date is a good idea too!
13:09 nengard kf - okay found a problem - might have a bug to report
13:09 the customer has shown me that this message is being send to patrons ... not just librarians!!!
13:09 uh oh
13:09 kf *sighs*
13:09 today that does not surprise me
13:09 nengard need to poke at this a bit before we report anything, just an fyi for you
13:09 kf thx!
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13:12 jcamins Good morning, #koha
13:15 nengard morning
13:15 - not sure it's good ... finding too many problems this morning :(
13:16 jcamins nengard: I can relate to that. The Department of Corporations misspelled my LLC's name, so I'll probably spend the next month arguing with them over getting it fixed.
13:16 nengard ick!
13:17 mine are all koha issues ...
13:17 i'm signing up for a perl class - but until then there are too many issues i don't know how to troubleshoot :(
13:17 kf oooh
13:17 * kf want a perl class too
13:18 kf never thought about it, strange
13:18 nengard: the new issue notifications will work ok after the 2 patches are applied
13:19 nengard cool
13:22 jcamins Cool, I just learned how to find out what Debian package contains a particular file!
13:22 robin++
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13:30 Genji hiya all. Library/branch groups... what has been implimented? is there a way to search a group, yet?
13:33 nengard there are such things as search groups ...
13:33 i don't know that they work though :)
13:34 Genji yeah.. search groups/ domains.... hmm...
13:40 in code, search groups are 'categories' in branches.pl?
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14:12 kf nengard: have you checked the message queue table for the email address teh mail was sent to?
14:12 nengard: I have mails working on my test installation at home, perhaps I can test later
14:12 nengard kf, it's not my server, i'll need to get access
14:13 wizzyrea does anybody know what link Richard was referring to? I don't have any email from him
14:14 kf what did he say?
14:14 wizzyrea richard
14:14 :
14:14 who does the editing on the koha-community site - wizzyrea?
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14:14 cait
14:14 :
14:14 richard - she can edit the site, not sure who else
14:14 [11:28p]
14:14 richard
14:14 :
14:14 cool
14:14 [11:28p] richard:
14:14 i'll send her an email
14:14 [11:28p] richard:
14:14 found a bung link
14:14 \
14:14 ouch, sorry
14:19 chris_n lol
14:20 jcamins chris_n: I guess you've been ivvacuated (the opposite of "evacuated") now?
14:21 chris_n actually the evacuations were on the coast
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14:21 chris_n I only evacuated my office at the end of the day yesterday :-)
14:21 jcamins Oh. I thought I had seen something in the scrollback about you evacuating.
14:21 nengard kf confirmed
14:21 * chris_n is glad that monster did what it was supposed to, though
14:21 nengard the message sent only to the library
14:22 chris_n jcamins: nope, I'm 1.5 hours from the coast
14:22 we just got the outer cloud bands and a little drizzle of rain
14:22 jcamins Good!
14:23 kf nengard: cool :)
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14:45 hudsonbot Starting build 24 for job Koha (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last UNSTABLE #23 17 hr ago)
14:45 kf uh huh
14:45 :)
14:47 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'translation' of git://git.workbuffer.org/git/koha into to-push <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8820481b16d62cb4a> / Lots of lanugage updates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7cb777e5e4f31011f> / Finished EN-NZ <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7cc2e78a0a96b4f79
14:52 hudsonbot Project Koha build (24): STILL UNSTABLE in 6 min 50 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/24/
14:52 * Chris Cormack: Language updates from pootle
14:52 * Chris Cormack: Updating german prefs
14:52 * Chris Cormack: Language updates from pootle
14:52 * Chris Cormack: Lots of opac .po file updates
14:52 * Chris Cormack: Intranet .po updates
14:52 * Chris Cormack: Amharic; Ethiopian updates getting ready for 3.2
14:52 * Chris Cormack: Removing spam from albanian
14:52 * Chris Cormack: Removing spam from Amharic
14:52 * Chris Cormack: Updates and spam removal
14:52 * Chris Cormack: Spam removal
14:52 * Chris Cormack: More spam tidy ups
14:52 * Chris Cormack: More spam removal
14:52 * Chris Cormack: Greek and NZ english updates
14:52 * Chris Cormack: Greek and NZ updates
14:52 * Chris Cormack: Continuing updates for 3.2
14:52 * Chris Cormack: Finished the en-NZ system preferences
14:52 * Chris Cormack: English intranet updates
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15:11 kf weekend - bye all!
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15:21 wizzyrea longshot: anybody here using envisionware with sip2
15:21 I set one of these up over a year ago, and now I can't remember, even with my notes what finally made it work :(
15:22 of course I don't have access to the other envisionware setup, so I can't look at it
15:22 #myjobsuckssometimes
15:23 * jcamins gives wizzyrea a piece of chocolate stovetop cake-like thing drenched in chocolate pudding
15:23 wizzyrea ooh, chocolate :)
15:23 jcamins :)
15:24 I thought that might help a bit.
15:25 My wife (wow does it feel weird to say that!) was very impressed that it came out... she was predicting disaster based on the maniacal laughing and complete lack of a plan, but it turns out you can use a berry crumble recipe to make chocolate pudding and cake by replacing the berries with water/gelatin/chocolate, and the biscuit topping with cake/cookie batter. :)
15:26 wizzyrea lol
15:26 jcamins Berry cobbler, sorry. I always get the two confused. :)
15:26 wizzyrea you must be happy
15:26 because you were cooking with your feelings, and happy people get good results ;)
15:27 whenever we have a "I don't have a plan for dinner I"m cooking with my feelings" the hubs and I always ask each other if we're feeling happy
15:27 :P
15:29 jcamins Heh. That's a good point.
15:29 wizzyrea and we know it's just better to order in if we're not feeling happy ;)
15:30 jcamins But, of course I'm happy... I got married a week ago, and I was baking something with chocolate! (the heat is really starting to get to me... it had been ages since I baked anything with chocolate)
15:31 (to clarify, I can't bake really when it's hot out, because we'd die of heat prostration if we used the oven... and baking is one of my favorite activities)
15:32 sekjal jcamins: at least it's almost autumn
15:32 hopefully this heat will knock off after Labor Day
15:33 jcamins I hope so! We have no bread at all in the freezer anymore. I was forced to buy bread last week! ;)
15:33 sekjal would that I had more time to bake and cook
15:34 we do at least get bread delivered with our produce, though
15:34 save that trip to the store
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15:35 jcamins Last winter I had a lot of free time, and learned to make bread (over the course of two days) with only about an hour of effort for 6-10 loaves.
15:35 wizzyrea oh yea, I've heard of that method, did that earlier this summer
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15:35 wizzyrea but it turns out I'm mostly too lazy for even that
15:36 lol, how sad.
15:36 to admit that.
15:36 jcamins Heh. I added up how much it costs to buy a loaf of bread from the baker on the corner, and how much it costs to bake my own (and also the relative enjoyment of the two), and made a concerted effort all spring and the first part of summer to bake all my bread.
15:37 On a Koha-related subject: is it possible to create a framework based on a template record?
15:37 wizzyrea that would certainly be epic to be able to do that
15:37 creating frameworks is so painful.
15:38 jcamins I know. We have about... oh, a billion, frameworks left to create.
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15:46 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 98.70.42.64 pasted "fix need to es-ES OPAC translation" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/60
15:46 gmcharlt anybody who can edit es-ES ^^
15:46 sans fix, translation won't install
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16:10 cait hi #koha
16:11 jcamins Hi cait
16:11 cait hi jcamins :)
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16:25 * wizzyrea curses at Windows
16:29 wizzyrea why god, isn't there a tail for windows.
16:29 jcamins http://tailforwin32.sourceforge.net/
16:29 Ask and ye shall receive. :)
16:30 wizzyrea heh. if it was my server I would install that.
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16:45 hdl bye
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16:47 sekjal has anyone in here tried following up on the removal of tablesort from the circ/circulation.pl screen, in order to improve checkout speed?
16:48 this was brought up on the list a little while ago
16:51 wizzyrea you know what, I can't even remember a single time I've seen someone actually sort that table
16:52 you know the one that needs to be sorted and isn't? The holds queue report.
16:52 s/sorted/sortable
16:52 sekjal I'm thinking of adding a system preference to toggle Tablesort on the circ page
16:53 it really seems to be slowing people down, and it'd be nice if they could opt to make the tradeoff
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17:33 jcamins Do we have any documentation that explains using Koha for people who have never used a library catalog?
17:35 Ooh, it looks like we have some videos on YouTube.
17:40 nengard++
17:41 nengard hehe
17:41 there are a lot of videos on youtube
17:41 they're not all me
17:41 i just compiled the list
17:41 i assume you found this: http://www.youtube.com/group/kohails
17:41 jcamins Yeah, that's what I'm looking at.
17:42 Now I just need to craft a diplomatic message which points out that patrons spend more time waiting for me to do a search for them than they would spend watching the videos.
17:52 Hm. All the videos seem to include words like "OPAC" or "keyword." Understandably, of course.
17:52 chris_n wow.. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38[…]news-asiapacific/
17:53 hope the NZ folks are ok
17:53 jcamins Oh my.
17:54 chris_n just occurred a few minutes ago
17:59 wizzyrea oh my
17:59 http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]hits-South-Island
18:01 guess chris will be really busy today keeping "stuff" alive
18:06 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]hits-South-Island
18:06 wizzyrea we saw! did you feel it?
18:07 chris yup
18:07 woke me up
18:07 wizzyrea yikes!
18:07 chris but no damage up this far away
18:08 wizzyrea that's good to hear
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18:14 chris_n for those of you who like technical details: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ear[…]0atbp.php#details
18:15 cait really good to hear
18:15 Braedon so is it 7.4 or 5.7?
18:15 chris_n chris: you can even log an "I felt it" report on that site
18:15 * chris_n wonders if the usgs is experiencing a typo difficulty
18:16 chris http://www.geonet.org.nz/earth[…]kes/3366146g.html
18:16 http://www.geonet.org.nz/earth[…]ums/wel-drum.html
18:16 wizzyrea lol usgs can't get it right. Silly
18:17 chris http://www.geonet.org.nz/earth[…]ums/mqz-drum.html
18:17 still tons of aftershocks in chch
18:17 wizzyrea that graph kind of makes it look like it was ramping up
18:17 chris_n low frequency resonance is an amazing thing
18:17 wizzyrea tiny ones that you couldn't really feel, getting slightly larger, then BOOM
18:18 * wizzyrea likes graphs
18:20 Braedon perhaps usgs is in local magnitude and geonet in moment magnitude, or vice versa?
18:21 wizzyrea hm, geonet powered by plone
18:21 interesting
18:22 Braedon http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ear[…]es/us2010atbj.php
18:23 they have two logged
18:30 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]hits-South-Island <-- photos
18:30 wizzyrea !! oh no!
18:33 Braedon stuff's last updated timestamp is a bit off is it not?
18:33 chris 6:04 ?
18:33 looks ok to me
18:33 wizzyrea was gonna say, seems plausible
18:33 Braedon i only got up at 6:09 and plenty has chnaged since i first saw the page
18:35 chris its only updated when they change the story, not attach thngs to it
18:35 Braedon ahh, ok
18:35 chris its on cnn now
18:35 if anyone has cnn
18:36 cantebury tv is off the air
18:43 tvnz is talking about stupid business crap, our media are slightly retarded
18:43 get a god damned reporter there already
18:43 wizzyrea you have family near christchurch? or no?
18:45 Braedon chris: yeah, i just checked them. i would have assumed at least one channel would have changed their regular programming
18:46 chris yep, my grandma and my uncle and aunt
18:47 Braedon are any of the regulars here from that far down?
18:47 chris nope
18:48 http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]hits-South-Island
18:48 slideshow now
18:49 once again stuff is winning the breaking news race
18:49 damn, that car is wrecked
18:50 they dont normally get quakes down there, so lots more brick than say wellington
18:50 Braedon was anyone in that building?
18:50 chris nope, luckily
18:50 thats manchester street, all businesses so would be mostly empty
18:52 Braedon in auckland a lot of business upstairs floors like that are flats
18:53 chris judging by the forsale sign, it might have been empty empty
18:53 which is lucky
18:53 Braedon ahh, tru
18:53 didn't see that
18:53 chris not so much for the poor taxi driver
18:53 wizzyrea i certainly hope he wasn't in that car
18:53 oh I just saw the people in that last photo
18:54 the reports say there are lots of people in the street, and I was thinking "well, there's nobody in these photos!" but yea, there they are.
18:54 chris i think ppl are out and about taking photos now
18:56 wizzyrea love the comments on that story
18:56 best use of the social web ever.
18:56 "water sloshed out of the toilet" that's a mad earthquake
19:00 chris finally some news on tvnz
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19:04 chris no casualties been reported yet
19:04 so thats great
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19:05 chris my uncle and aunt are ok
19:05 wizzyrea that's really good news
19:06 chris my uncle is going to check on my grandma, as soon as the roads are clear enough to
19:08 apparently the river has changed its course and the water table is all messed up
19:08 jcamins Oh no! Do most people have well water?
19:09 chris nope, but lots of surface flooding
19:10 jcamins Well, that's something... it can take months to fix a poisoned well.
19:10 chris pipes will be busted too, so clean water is going to be the next problem
19:11 wizzyrea there is a sentence you don't see every day: the river has changed it's course
19:11 chris http://twitpic.com/2kwhsv
19:11 Braedon those brick facades really don't hold up too well do they
19:12 jcamins Yikes.
19:12 chris nope
19:12 wizzyrea http://twitpic.com/search#q=%2[…]type=mixed&page=1
19:12 chris wood ftw
19:13 wizzyrea ouch
19:13 http://twitpic.com/2kwb90
19:15 chris yeah, act of god too, so insurance is probably gonna try not to have to pay
19:15 wizzyrea mutter.
19:15 insurance.
19:15 chris buildings etc ppl often have an earthquake levy, so they are ok
19:15 cars otoh
19:16 moodaepo Wonder if it's better to have an earthquake during the day or late night
19:16 chris night i think, more scary but less people in office blocks
19:16 moodaepo Probably bad either way for different reasons
19:16 chris at least in christchurch most people live in single story houses
19:17 Braedon yeah, depends on the buildings. NZ probably better at night
19:17 moodaepo True if it's flat complexes might be pretty bad
19:17 chris which is a much better place to be than on the 4th floor of an office block
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19:25 wizzyrea what exactly is a mud volcano
19:26 chris somethig that person made up :)
19:26 wizzyrea AHA
19:26 Braedon ..?
19:30 what's this about a mud volcano?
19:30 chris http://twitpic.com/2kwki6
19:31 Braedon ahh i see
19:32 * Braedon is a bit disappointed given the connotations of 'volcano'
19:32 chris yeah
19:32 jcamins wizzyrea: I always thought it was a favored science experiment for preschoolers.
19:32 ;)
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19:33 Braedon upgraded to baking soda and vinegar by the time they hit high school
19:33 jcamins Right.
19:33 chris tv3 Braedon
19:33 * wizzyrea is totally down with volcanoes of all kinds.
19:33 chris got a reporter live there now
19:34 wizzyrea as long as they're not burning my feet off
19:35 chris whoa thats a lot of wine on the floor
19:40 Braedon indeed
19:40 moodaepo > http://www.wired.com/wiredscie[…]10/02/mudvolcano/
19:40 Braedon according to that reporter everything is on the floor
19:42 he seemed rather flustered when talking about what he had done
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19:45 Braedon on a totally unrelated note, that buckyball in the google logo is awesome
19:45 jcamins Braedon: ?
19:45 Braedon google home page
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19:45 Braedon anniversary of the buckyball apparently
19:46 jcamins Maybe it'll show up for us USians tomorrow.
19:46 Braedon it is an interactive spinning buckyball
19:46 doesn't seem to be flash
19:47 * indradg is wondering if anyone has ever tried to use Koha's MARC21 support for Community Format information
19:47 jcamins http://www.google.co.nz for those who want to see it.
19:48 * Braedon should have thought of that :P
19:49 jcamins Wow. That's incredible.
19:49 (looking at how they did it)
19:49 I totally don't understand it, but I'm impressed anyway.
19:49 Braedon lol
19:49 jcamins I think every single line and dot is a separate image.
19:50 Braedon yeah, seems to be
19:50 jcamins Our library catalog logo should do that.
19:50 A gyroscopic oak leaf.
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19:52 Braedon it is really hard to read google's code - they always remove all the white space for obvious reasons
19:53 * Braedon needs an editor that automatically formats javascript
19:53 jcamins Reducing bandwidth requirements? ;)
19:53 * Braedon actually needs to stop procrastinating and get back to work
19:53 Braedon jcamins: yip yip
19:53 chris we minify ours too
19:54 http://static.stuff.co.nz/1283[…]mepage-all.min.js
20:00 wizzyrea hopefully this is as close as any of us get to earl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]e=player_embedded
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20:27 gmcharlt indradg: not to my knowledge; it would mostly be a matter of a lot of bookkeeping (setting up MARC frameworks, indexing configs, display configs, etc.)
20:28 but (assuming that community info records were the only thing residing in the database) you could treat them as bibs
20:29 making CI records live alongside bib records would take more work
20:29 indradg gmcharlt, that was what I was thinking too
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20:30 gmcharlt of course, it does expose one to silliness such as the question of how does one check out a person
20:30 indradg heh
20:31 jcamins gmcharlt: actually, a few libraries experimented with that as a publicity stunt.
20:31 indradg gmcharlt, notforloan :P
20:31 * wizzyrea ponders circulating people... backs away from the thought
20:31 chris thats what i plan to do for kohacon
20:32 indradg jcamins, any links or URLs w.r.t. that ^^^?
20:32 chris you lot are all being issued out to the room
20:32 jcamins I'd have to look.
20:32 I don't think they actually used CI, though.
20:32 wizzyrea because, you can't check us out. >.>
20:33 jcamins indradg: http://www.worcester.ac.uk/ils/107.htm
20:33 http://www.writerscentrenorwic[…]humanlibrary.aspx
20:33 indradg jcamins, taking a look
20:34 jcamins wizzyrea: The Music Man suggests otherwise. :P
20:35 wizzyrea or you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
20:36 jcamins The new theme song for the reference area?
20:36 indradg wizzyrea, thats so hotel california :P
20:38 jcamins I now have both Marian _and_ Hotel California stuck in my head.
20:38 Please take one of them out.
20:40 Braedon http://unhearit.com/
20:40 wizzyrea YES
20:40 gmcharlt jcamins: just for you - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_47KVJV8DU
20:40 wizzyrea thank you that is what I was looking for, braedon
20:41 ... unhearit just gave me "baby don't hurt me
20:41 "
20:41 Braedon lol
20:41 wizzyrea er
20:41 "what is love"
20:41 oh, and the macarena
20:41 jcamins I don't know how to turn it off!
20:41 ;)
20:42 And that's my cue to leave.
20:42 Have a good night, #koha
20:42 wizzyrea omg. unhearit is on a roll
20:42 I just got the swing version of gaga's poker face
20:43 ...which is better than it might seem.
20:43 Braedon haha
20:43 jcamins Heh.
20:43 wizzyrea though telephone is the one that really benefits from swingification
20:43 jcamins Kind of scary to think about.
20:43 Bye!
20:43 jcamins is now known as jcamins_a
20:43 wizzyrea later :)
20:47 indradg goodnight #koha
20:47 indradg is now known as indradg|Z
20:50 * Elwell catches up on the quake news and scrolls back -- all OK?
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20:58 Braedon_m Hehe, why has it taken me so long to get an android client?
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21:02 Braedon_m This is going to chew through mobile data isn't it...
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21:19 wizzyrea nobody's reported fatal error problems with the new label creator that I've seen, right?
21:19 with saving templates?
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