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| 00:50 | moo | Hey guys, does someone have time to help me with a zebra password prob ? |
| 01:01 | yay, i figured it out... :-) thanks for your help yesterday chris / wasabi, I stumbled on this post which just helped me debug ;-) http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ugust/000296.html | |
| 01:01 | later. | |
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| 02:15 | cait | hi #koha |
| 02:15 | chris | cait??? isnt it like 2am? |
| 02:15 | cait | 4:16 |
| 02:16 | woke up at 3 and was not able to go back to sleep | |
| 02:16 | chris | thats still way to early |
| 02:16 | yikes | |
| 02:16 | cait | it is |
| 02:17 | richard | happy early morning cait |
| 02:18 | cait | hi richard |
| 02:18 | perhaps reading my distance study book will help :) | |
| 02:18 | chris | :) |
| 02:19 | cait | have to finish it until 14th |
| 02:29 | hmpf. server down. | |
| 02:33 | chris | its sleeping :) |
| 02:34 | cait | yeah, they do maintenance at this time |
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| 03:22 | schuster | chris - when I did git branch I see master and *mywork |
| 03:22 | chris | that means you are on the mywork branch |
| 03:23 | schuster | ok - so what should I do to get this up to the current head? |
| 03:24 | chris | current master .. what you do is git fetch |
| 03:24 | git rebase origin/master | |
| 03:24 | schuster | and it doesn't matter which branch I'm in right? |
| 03:25 | chris | yes it does |
| 03:25 | schuster | so which branch do I want to be in when I do that? |
| 03:25 | chris | depends, i dont know what you use mywork for |
| 03:25 | id probably do it on master first | |
| 03:25 | git checkout master | |
| 03:26 | schuster | ok - I'm pretty sure there isn't anything in mywork - |
| 03:27 | it tells me master is up to date. | |
| 03:27 | chris | you did the fetch and rebase eh? |
| 03:28 | schuster | no didn't fetch - sorry so I should do that and then rebase ok |
| 03:28 | chris | yes |
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| 03:30 | schuster | ok those steps are done things happened so that's it I should be up to date? |
| 03:30 | Amit | heya chris, schuster |
| 03:30 | schuster | heya amit... |
| 03:30 | chris | yup |
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| 03:35 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
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| 03:36 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.6�C (5:36 AM CEST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:36 | * cait | is still awake |
| 03:36 | chris | yikes! |
| 03:37 | you are going to fall asleep on your desk | |
| 03:37 | cait | it's friday |
| 03:37 | can leave earlier today | |
| 03:37 | chris | good :) |
| 03:38 | cait | :) |
| 03:40 | schuster | @wunder 75035 |
| 03:40 | munin | schuster: The current temperature in Custer Creek Farms, Frisco, Texas is 22.2�C (10:28 PM CDT on September 02, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Rising). |
| 03:41 | schuster | Thanks chris now off to read about testing... |
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| 04:13 | richard | who does the editing on the koha-community site - wizzyrea? |
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| 04:27 | cait | richard - she can edit the site, not sure who else |
| 04:27 | richard | cool |
| 04:28 | i'll send her an email | |
| 04:28 | found a bung link | |
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| 04:35 | cait | anyone knows a good xml editor? I need something to check my DTD, XML Schemas, XQuery, XPath homework |
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| 05:05 | cait | bbl |
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| 05:50 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 06:12 | zen | hello |
| 06:14 | kf | hi zen |
| 06:16 | zen | i am working @branch library and i am installing koha 3.0.06 and i want to integtated my koha with the main library koha |
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| 06:18 | kf | zen: what do you mean by integrating? a |
| 06:20 | zen | kf: we use different koha servers when my patrons wants to search data @main library they should have to open the main server |
| 06:21 | kf | so you don't want to share one catalog? |
| 06:21 | zen | no,what i want is there any mechansim that i can have a copy of the main library at my koha server. |
| 06:22 | kf | I am not sure how to do it |
| 06:22 | perhaps you could use oai | |
| 06:22 | I read some people have done similar things, but we have never done something like that | |
| 06:24 | zen | i try to google it but the most result i have got is integration with SIP something like. |
| 06:25 | kf | sip is for self checkout |
| 06:25 | checkout, return, patron info | |
| 06:25 | oai-pmh | |
| 06:26 | or perhaps pazpar2 | |
| 06:27 | perhaps you could also do something on mysql level | |
| 06:27 | but what would the copy on your server be good for? | |
| 06:28 | Amit | heya kf |
| 06:29 | kf | hi Amit |
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| 06:30 | zen | kf: for example i am working at agriculture library so in my database there is only agriculture bibliographic data when user wants IT data he should have to open the main koha server. |
| 06:31 | kf | hm, sounds complicated for the user :) |
| 06:32 | but why have a copy? can't he acces the main koha server via internet? | |
| 06:34 | zen | it is not a good a solution cause the branch is far 100 mile from main and the interent is not stable,but if i can dump the bibliographic data of the main library the user can easily get the data. |
| 06:36 | kf | hm ok, but he will not be able to place holds or see the real availablity |
| 06:38 | zen | the question is can we integrate (connect) two mysql databases from different koha servers |
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| 06:44 | zen | kf: is my question isn't clear? |
| 06:45 | kf | I am perhaps just not the right person to talk to |
| 06:46 | zen | ok thank you! |
| 06:57 | bye | |
| 06:57 | kf | bye :) |
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| 07:21 | Fred | Hello |
| 07:21 | kf | hi Fred |
| 07:31 | chris | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 07:31 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:31 | chris | s/rain showers/hail/ |
| 07:31 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:31 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.1�C (9:31 AM CEST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:38 | chris | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Con2011_Proposals |
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| 07:40 | chris | hi magnus |
| 07:41 | magnus | hi chris |
| 07:46 | good to be back after a couple days traveling - sorry to miss the meeting | |
| 07:46 | chris | np, it was a nice short meeting |
| 07:47 | magnus | yeah, i read the transcript |
| 07:47 | kf | hi magnus |
| 07:51 | magnus | guten tag, kf |
| 07:54 | chris: i didn't quite catch the situation with the main blocking bug for 3.2 - is there a patch that solves it or is the solution only partial so there has to be more patches for it? | |
| 07:57 | chris | the patch doesnt solve it |
| 07:58 | colin tested it and it still isnt quite right, its blocking anyone who uses acquisitons from being able to upgrade | |
| 07:58 | i added to the bug how i did it manual | |
| 07:58 | ly | |
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| 08:05 | chris | magnus: did you see http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n10_Social_Events ? |
| 08:06 | magnus | yeah, lots of good ideas! |
| 08:07 | chris: thanks for putting me right about the blocker | |
| 08:07 | chris | feel free to add any you are thinking of, i thought ppl could use it to plan day trips and things |
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| 09:30 | Amit | heya chris: Diwali Festival http://www.wotzon.com/eventlis[…]?event_id=5006803 |
| 09:31 | hdl | hi |
| 09:31 | hi amit | |
| 09:31 | Amit | hi hdl |
| 09:47 | kf | hi hdl |
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| 11:28 | Amit | heya jwagner |
| 11:28 | Happy Weekend to all ;) | |
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| 11:34 | kf | hi again #koha |
| 11:34 | forced_restart-- | |
| 11:34 | hdl: around? | |
| 11:34 | hdl | kf: yep |
| 11:34 | kf | we have a new customer with RFID, they want to use 3M |
| 11:35 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]tization_solution | |
| 11:35 | hdl | work like a charm |
| 11:35 | kf | great :) |
| 11:35 | has the universite self check? | |
| 11:35 | jwagner | Hi Amit |
| 11:35 | hdl | kf: yep |
| 11:35 | kf | hi jwagner :) |
| 11:35 | jwagner | Hi kf |
| 11:35 | hdl | using sip_server.sh |
| 11:35 | using sip_start.sh | |
| 11:35 | sorry | |
| 11:35 | kf | no problem |
| 11:36 | we already have one library using rfid | |
| 11:36 | but with another vendor | |
| 11:36 | 3M called and asked about Koha and SIP and I told them there are already other libraries using 3M - no searching for examples | |
| 11:36 | now | |
| 11:37 | hdl | we have many libraries using that atm |
| 11:37 | Mines paris-tech Lyon3 for instance | |
| 11:37 | kf | great, thx |
| 11:37 | is the old doc still relevant? | |
| 11:38 | http://koha.org/documentation/[…]sip2-integration? | |
| 11:39 | hdl | yep atz++ |
| 11:39 | kf | cool - thx for your help! |
| 11:39 | hdl | kf: there is a wrapper for perl -I./ ./SIPServer.pm ./SIPServer.xml >~/sip_log.out 2>~/sip_log.err & |
| 11:39 | sip_start | |
| 11:41 | kf | ? |
| 11:41 | sorry, I don't understand | |
| 11:42 | I know about the xml configuration file, but the start/stop/reset things is my coworker's part | |
| 11:42 | :) | |
| 11:42 | hdl | i.e. rather than using perl -I./ ./SIPServer.pm ./SIPServer.xml >~/sip_log.out 2>~/sip_log.err & |
| 11:43 | use sip_run.sh SIPServer.xml ~/sip_log.out ~/sip_log.err | |
| 11:43 | kf | do yoour libraries renew via sip? |
| 11:43 | hdl | I think so |
| 11:44 | it is also managed and controlled in the 3M configuration interface | |
| 11:44 | kf | hm? |
| 11:44 | hdl | you can enable it i |
| 11:44 | in SIPconfig.xml | |
| 11:45 | kf | ah, I think we did that |
| 11:45 | hdl | But you also have to enable that on the selfcheckout engine |
| 11:45 | kf | but our tests were a bit problematic |
| 11:51 | ok, thx a lot again :) | |
| 11:51 | today is crazy friday - a lot of phone calls | |
| 11:54 | hdl: are those libraries using "standard" koha, or did you have to change something to make it all work? | |
| 11:58 | nah, I believe it will work - it does for our other library too. | |
| 12:08 | nengard | got a question about issues - i'm looking at data in my system and it looks like once an item is marked lost it is no longer in the issues table or the old_issues table ...does a record of that checkout just disappear? |
| 12:08 | hdl | kf: it is standard SIP |
| 12:08 | service | |
| 12:09 | kf | hdl: great :) |
| 12:09 | nengard: ouch | |
| 12:09 | nengard | if it disappears - um - yes - ouch |
| 12:10 | but does it for others? | |
| 12:10 | kf | sorry, can't test right now |
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| 12:43 | nengard | does anyone know if there is a way to have today's date print at the top of notices? |
| 12:43 | maybe a shortcode we can add to the notice templates? | |
| 12:53 | okay - a different question - when does the HOLDPLACED notice get sent? Where does this come into play? it's not a choice on enhanced messages | |
| 12:55 | kf | nengard: sys pref |
| 12:55 | nengard | checking now |
| 12:55 | kf | nengard: the notice send to the librarian that a hold was placed |
| 12:55 | nengard | OH RIGHT!!! |
| 12:55 | Thank you :) | |
| 12:56 | kf | you are welcome :) |
| 12:56 | I think it was not really working for a long time and the sample notice is quite new too | |
| 12:58 | nengard | i was blinded by the question i was being asked- which focused on patrons getting the email and forgot to think about the librarian :) |
| 12:59 | kf | I can totally understand |
| 13:00 | the date is a good idea too! | |
| 13:09 | nengard | kf - okay found a problem - might have a bug to report |
| 13:09 | the customer has shown me that this message is being send to patrons ... not just librarians!!! | |
| 13:09 | uh oh | |
| 13:09 | kf | *sighs* |
| 13:09 | today that does not surprise me | |
| 13:09 | nengard | need to poke at this a bit before we report anything, just an fyi for you |
| 13:09 | kf | thx! |
| 13:12 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 13:12 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 13:15 | nengard | morning |
| 13:15 | - not sure it's good ... finding too many problems this morning :( | |
| 13:16 | jcamins | nengard: I can relate to that. The Department of Corporations misspelled my LLC's name, so I'll probably spend the next month arguing with them over getting it fixed. |
| 13:16 | nengard | ick! |
| 13:17 | mine are all koha issues ... | |
| 13:17 | i'm signing up for a perl class - but until then there are too many issues i don't know how to troubleshoot :( | |
| 13:17 | kf | oooh |
| 13:17 | * kf | want a perl class too |
| 13:18 | kf | never thought about it, strange |
| 13:18 | nengard: the new issue notifications will work ok after the 2 patches are applied | |
| 13:19 | nengard | cool |
| 13:22 | jcamins | Cool, I just learned how to find out what Debian package contains a particular file! |
| 13:22 | robin++ | |
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| 13:30 | Genji | hiya all. Library/branch groups... what has been implimented? is there a way to search a group, yet? |
| 13:33 | nengard | there are such things as search groups ... |
| 13:33 | i don't know that they work though :) | |
| 13:34 | Genji | yeah.. search groups/ domains.... hmm... |
| 13:40 | in code, search groups are 'categories' in branches.pl? | |
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| 14:12 | kf | nengard: have you checked the message queue table for the email address teh mail was sent to? |
| 14:12 | nengard: I have mails working on my test installation at home, perhaps I can test later | |
| 14:12 | nengard | kf, it's not my server, i'll need to get access |
| 14:13 | wizzyrea | does anybody know what link Richard was referring to? I don't have any email from him |
| 14:14 | kf | what did he say? |
| 14:14 | wizzyrea | richard |
| 14:14 | : | |
| 14:14 | who does the editing on the koha-community site - wizzyrea? | |
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| 14:14 | [11:28p] | |
| 14:14 | cait | |
| 14:14 | : | |
| 14:14 | richard - she can edit the site, not sure who else | |
| 14:14 | [11:28p] | |
| 14:14 | richard | |
| 14:14 | : | |
| 14:14 | cool | |
| 14:14 | [11:28p] richard: | |
| 14:14 | i'll send her an email | |
| 14:14 | [11:28p] richard: | |
| 14:14 | found a bung link | |
| 14:14 | \ | |
| 14:14 | ouch, sorry | |
| 14:19 | chris_n | lol |
| 14:20 | jcamins | chris_n: I guess you've been ivvacuated (the opposite of "evacuated") now? |
| 14:21 | chris_n | actually the evacuations were on the coast |
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| 14:21 | chris_n | I only evacuated my office at the end of the day yesterday :-) |
| 14:21 | jcamins | Oh. I thought I had seen something in the scrollback about you evacuating. |
| 14:21 | nengard | kf confirmed |
| 14:21 | * chris_n | is glad that monster did what it was supposed to, though |
| 14:21 | nengard | the message sent only to the library |
| 14:22 | chris_n | jcamins: nope, I'm 1.5 hours from the coast |
| 14:22 | we just got the outer cloud bands and a little drizzle of rain | |
| 14:22 | jcamins | Good! |
| 14:23 | kf | nengard: cool :) |
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| 14:45 | hudsonbot | Starting build 24 for job Koha (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last UNSTABLE #23 17 hr ago) |
| 14:45 | kf | uh huh |
| 14:45 | :) | |
| 14:47 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'translation' of git://git.workbuffer.org/git/koha into to-push <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8820481b16d62cb4a> / Lots of lanugage updates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7cb777e5e4f31011f> / Finished EN-NZ <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7cc2e78a0a96b4f79 |
| 14:52 | hudsonbot | Project Koha build (24): STILL UNSTABLE in 6 min 50 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/24/ |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: Language updates from pootle | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: Updating german prefs | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: Language updates from pootle | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: Lots of opac .po file updates | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: Intranet .po updates | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: Amharic; Ethiopian updates getting ready for 3.2 | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: Removing spam from albanian | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: Removing spam from Amharic | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: Updates and spam removal | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: Spam removal | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: More spam tidy ups | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: More spam removal | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: Greek and NZ english updates | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: Greek and NZ updates | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: Continuing updates for 3.2 | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: Finished the en-NZ system preferences | |
| 14:52 | * Chris Cormack: English intranet updates | |
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| 15:11 | kf | weekend - bye all! |
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| 15:21 | wizzyrea | longshot: anybody here using envisionware with sip2 |
| 15:21 | I set one of these up over a year ago, and now I can't remember, even with my notes what finally made it work :( | |
| 15:22 | of course I don't have access to the other envisionware setup, so I can't look at it | |
| 15:22 | #myjobsuckssometimes | |
| 15:23 | * jcamins | gives wizzyrea a piece of chocolate stovetop cake-like thing drenched in chocolate pudding |
| 15:23 | wizzyrea | ooh, chocolate :) |
| 15:23 | jcamins | :) |
| 15:24 | I thought that might help a bit. | |
| 15:25 | My wife (wow does it feel weird to say that!) was very impressed that it came out... she was predicting disaster based on the maniacal laughing and complete lack of a plan, but it turns out you can use a berry crumble recipe to make chocolate pudding and cake by replacing the berries with water/gelatin/chocolate, and the biscuit topping with cake/cookie batter. :) | |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 15:26 | jcamins | Berry cobbler, sorry. I always get the two confused. :) |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | you must be happy |
| 15:26 | because you were cooking with your feelings, and happy people get good results ;) | |
| 15:27 | whenever we have a "I don't have a plan for dinner I"m cooking with my feelings" the hubs and I always ask each other if we're feeling happy | |
| 15:27 | :P | |
| 15:29 | jcamins | Heh. That's a good point. |
| 15:29 | wizzyrea | and we know it's just better to order in if we're not feeling happy ;) |
| 15:30 | jcamins | But, of course I'm happy... I got married a week ago, and I was baking something with chocolate! (the heat is really starting to get to me... it had been ages since I baked anything with chocolate) |
| 15:31 | (to clarify, I can't bake really when it's hot out, because we'd die of heat prostration if we used the oven... and baking is one of my favorite activities) | |
| 15:32 | sekjal | jcamins: at least it's almost autumn |
| 15:32 | hopefully this heat will knock off after Labor Day | |
| 15:33 | jcamins | I hope so! We have no bread at all in the freezer anymore. I was forced to buy bread last week! ;) |
| 15:33 | sekjal | would that I had more time to bake and cook |
| 15:34 | we do at least get bread delivered with our produce, though | |
| 15:34 | save that trip to the store | |
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| 15:35 | jcamins | Last winter I had a lot of free time, and learned to make bread (over the course of two days) with only about an hour of effort for 6-10 loaves. |
| 15:35 | wizzyrea | oh yea, I've heard of that method, did that earlier this summer |
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| 15:35 | wizzyrea | but it turns out I'm mostly too lazy for even that |
| 15:36 | lol, how sad. | |
| 15:36 | to admit that. | |
| 15:36 | jcamins | Heh. I added up how much it costs to buy a loaf of bread from the baker on the corner, and how much it costs to bake my own (and also the relative enjoyment of the two), and made a concerted effort all spring and the first part of summer to bake all my bread. |
| 15:37 | On a Koha-related subject: is it possible to create a framework based on a template record? | |
| 15:37 | wizzyrea | that would certainly be epic to be able to do that |
| 15:37 | creating frameworks is so painful. | |
| 15:38 | jcamins | I know. We have about... oh, a billion, frameworks left to create. |
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| 15:46 | pastebot | "gmcharlt" at 98.70.42.64 pasted "fix need to es-ES OPAC translation" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/60 |
| 15:46 | gmcharlt | anybody who can edit es-ES ^^ |
| 15:46 | sans fix, translation won't install | |
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| 16:10 | cait | hi #koha |
| 16:11 | jcamins | Hi cait |
| 16:11 | cait | hi jcamins :) |
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| 16:25 | * wizzyrea | curses at Windows |
| 16:29 | wizzyrea | why god, isn't there a tail for windows. |
| 16:29 | jcamins | http://tailforwin32.sourceforge.net/ |
| 16:29 | Ask and ye shall receive. :) | |
| 16:30 | wizzyrea | heh. if it was my server I would install that. |
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| 16:45 | hdl | bye |
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| 16:47 | sekjal | has anyone in here tried following up on the removal of tablesort from the circ/circulation.pl screen, in order to improve checkout speed? |
| 16:48 | this was brought up on the list a little while ago | |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | you know what, I can't even remember a single time I've seen someone actually sort that table |
| 16:52 | you know the one that needs to be sorted and isn't? The holds queue report. | |
| 16:52 | s/sorted/sortable | |
| 16:52 | sekjal | I'm thinking of adding a system preference to toggle Tablesort on the circ page |
| 16:53 | it really seems to be slowing people down, and it'd be nice if they could opt to make the tradeoff | |
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| 17:33 | jcamins | Do we have any documentation that explains using Koha for people who have never used a library catalog? |
| 17:35 | Ooh, it looks like we have some videos on YouTube. | |
| 17:40 | nengard++ | |
| 17:41 | nengard | hehe |
| 17:41 | there are a lot of videos on youtube | |
| 17:41 | they're not all me | |
| 17:41 | i just compiled the list | |
| 17:41 | i assume you found this: http://www.youtube.com/group/kohails | |
| 17:41 | jcamins | Yeah, that's what I'm looking at. |
| 17:42 | Now I just need to craft a diplomatic message which points out that patrons spend more time waiting for me to do a search for them than they would spend watching the videos. | |
| 17:52 | Hm. All the videos seem to include words like "OPAC" or "keyword." Understandably, of course. | |
| 17:52 | chris_n | wow.. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38[…]news-asiapacific/ |
| 17:53 | hope the NZ folks are ok | |
| 17:53 | jcamins | Oh my. |
| 17:54 | chris_n | just occurred a few minutes ago |
| 17:59 | wizzyrea | oh my |
| 17:59 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]hits-South-Island | |
| 18:01 | guess chris will be really busy today keeping "stuff" alive | |
| 18:06 | chris | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]hits-South-Island |
| 18:06 | wizzyrea | we saw! did you feel it? |
| 18:07 | chris | yup |
| 18:07 | woke me up | |
| 18:07 | wizzyrea | yikes! |
| 18:07 | chris | but no damage up this far away |
| 18:08 | wizzyrea | that's good to hear |
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| 18:14 | chris_n | for those of you who like technical details: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ear[…]0atbp.php#details |
| 18:15 | cait | really good to hear |
| 18:15 | Braedon | so is it 7.4 or 5.7? |
| 18:15 | chris_n | chris: you can even log an "I felt it" report on that site |
| 18:15 | * chris_n | wonders if the usgs is experiencing a typo difficulty |
| 18:16 | chris | http://www.geonet.org.nz/earth[…]kes/3366146g.html |
| 18:16 | http://www.geonet.org.nz/earth[…]ums/wel-drum.html | |
| 18:16 | wizzyrea | lol usgs can't get it right. Silly |
| 18:17 | chris | http://www.geonet.org.nz/earth[…]ums/mqz-drum.html |
| 18:17 | still tons of aftershocks in chch | |
| 18:17 | wizzyrea | that graph kind of makes it look like it was ramping up |
| 18:17 | chris_n | low frequency resonance is an amazing thing |
| 18:17 | wizzyrea | tiny ones that you couldn't really feel, getting slightly larger, then BOOM |
| 18:18 | * wizzyrea | likes graphs |
| 18:20 | Braedon | perhaps usgs is in local magnitude and geonet in moment magnitude, or vice versa? |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | hm, geonet powered by plone |
| 18:21 | interesting | |
| 18:22 | Braedon | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ear[…]es/us2010atbj.php |
| 18:23 | they have two logged | |
| 18:30 | chris | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]hits-South-Island <-- photos |
| 18:30 | wizzyrea | !! oh no! |
| 18:33 | Braedon | stuff's last updated timestamp is a bit off is it not? |
| 18:33 | chris | 6:04 ? |
| 18:33 | looks ok to me | |
| 18:33 | wizzyrea | was gonna say, seems plausible |
| 18:33 | Braedon | i only got up at 6:09 and plenty has chnaged since i first saw the page |
| 18:35 | chris | its only updated when they change the story, not attach thngs to it |
| 18:35 | Braedon | ahh, ok |
| 18:35 | chris | its on cnn now |
| 18:35 | if anyone has cnn | |
| 18:36 | cantebury tv is off the air | |
| 18:43 | tvnz is talking about stupid business crap, our media are slightly retarded | |
| 18:43 | get a god damned reporter there already | |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | you have family near christchurch? or no? |
| 18:45 | Braedon | chris: yeah, i just checked them. i would have assumed at least one channel would have changed their regular programming |
| 18:46 | chris | yep, my grandma and my uncle and aunt |
| 18:47 | Braedon | are any of the regulars here from that far down? |
| 18:47 | chris | nope |
| 18:48 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]hits-South-Island | |
| 18:48 | slideshow now | |
| 18:49 | once again stuff is winning the breaking news race | |
| 18:49 | damn, that car is wrecked | |
| 18:50 | they dont normally get quakes down there, so lots more brick than say wellington | |
| 18:50 | Braedon | was anyone in that building? |
| 18:50 | chris | nope, luckily |
| 18:50 | thats manchester street, all businesses so would be mostly empty | |
| 18:52 | Braedon | in auckland a lot of business upstairs floors like that are flats |
| 18:53 | chris | judging by the forsale sign, it might have been empty empty |
| 18:53 | which is lucky | |
| 18:53 | Braedon | ahh, tru |
| 18:53 | didn't see that | |
| 18:53 | chris | not so much for the poor taxi driver |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | i certainly hope he wasn't in that car |
| 18:53 | oh I just saw the people in that last photo | |
| 18:54 | the reports say there are lots of people in the street, and I was thinking "well, there's nobody in these photos!" but yea, there they are. | |
| 18:54 | chris | i think ppl are out and about taking photos now |
| 18:56 | wizzyrea | love the comments on that story |
| 18:56 | best use of the social web ever. | |
| 18:56 | "water sloshed out of the toilet" that's a mad earthquake | |
| 19:00 | chris | finally some news on tvnz |
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| 19:04 | chris | no casualties been reported yet |
| 19:04 | so thats great | |
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| 19:05 | chris | my uncle and aunt are ok |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | that's really good news |
| 19:06 | chris | my uncle is going to check on my grandma, as soon as the roads are clear enough to |
| 19:08 | apparently the river has changed its course and the water table is all messed up | |
| 19:08 | jcamins | Oh no! Do most people have well water? |
| 19:09 | chris | nope, but lots of surface flooding |
| 19:10 | jcamins | Well, that's something... it can take months to fix a poisoned well. |
| 19:10 | chris | pipes will be busted too, so clean water is going to be the next problem |
| 19:11 | wizzyrea | there is a sentence you don't see every day: the river has changed it's course |
| 19:11 | chris | http://twitpic.com/2kwhsv |
| 19:11 | Braedon | those brick facades really don't hold up too well do they |
| 19:12 | jcamins | Yikes. |
| 19:12 | chris | nope |
| 19:12 | wizzyrea | http://twitpic.com/search#q=%2[…]type=mixed&page=1 |
| 19:12 | chris | wood ftw |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | ouch |
| 19:13 | http://twitpic.com/2kwb90 | |
| 19:15 | chris | yeah, act of god too, so insurance is probably gonna try not to have to pay |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | mutter. |
| 19:15 | insurance. | |
| 19:15 | chris | buildings etc ppl often have an earthquake levy, so they are ok |
| 19:15 | cars otoh | |
| 19:16 | moodaepo | Wonder if it's better to have an earthquake during the day or late night |
| 19:16 | chris | night i think, more scary but less people in office blocks |
| 19:16 | moodaepo | Probably bad either way for different reasons |
| 19:16 | chris | at least in christchurch most people live in single story houses |
| 19:17 | Braedon | yeah, depends on the buildings. NZ probably better at night |
| 19:17 | moodaepo | True if it's flat complexes might be pretty bad |
| 19:17 | chris | which is a much better place to be than on the 4th floor of an office block |
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| 19:25 | wizzyrea | what exactly is a mud volcano |
| 19:26 | chris | somethig that person made up :) |
| 19:26 | wizzyrea | AHA |
| 19:26 | Braedon | ..? |
| 19:30 | what's this about a mud volcano? | |
| 19:30 | chris | http://twitpic.com/2kwki6 |
| 19:31 | Braedon | ahh i see |
| 19:32 | * Braedon | is a bit disappointed given the connotations of 'volcano' |
| 19:32 | chris | yeah |
| 19:32 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I always thought it was a favored science experiment for preschoolers. |
| 19:32 | ;) | |
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| 19:33 | Braedon | upgraded to baking soda and vinegar by the time they hit high school |
| 19:33 | jcamins | Right. |
| 19:33 | chris | tv3 Braedon |
| 19:33 | * wizzyrea | is totally down with volcanoes of all kinds. |
| 19:33 | chris | got a reporter live there now |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | as long as they're not burning my feet off |
| 19:35 | chris | whoa thats a lot of wine on the floor |
| 19:40 | Braedon | indeed |
| 19:40 | moodaepo | > http://www.wired.com/wiredscie[…]10/02/mudvolcano/ |
| 19:40 | Braedon | according to that reporter everything is on the floor |
| 19:42 | he seemed rather flustered when talking about what he had done | |
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| 19:45 | Braedon | on a totally unrelated note, that buckyball in the google logo is awesome |
| 19:45 | jcamins | Braedon: ? |
| 19:45 | Braedon | google home page |
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| 19:45 | Braedon | anniversary of the buckyball apparently |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Maybe it'll show up for us USians tomorrow. |
| 19:46 | Braedon | it is an interactive spinning buckyball |
| 19:46 | doesn't seem to be flash | |
| 19:47 | * indradg | is wondering if anyone has ever tried to use Koha's MARC21 support for Community Format information |
| 19:47 | jcamins | http://www.google.co.nz for those who want to see it. |
| 19:48 | * Braedon | should have thought of that :P |
| 19:49 | jcamins | Wow. That's incredible. |
| 19:49 | (looking at how they did it) | |
| 19:49 | I totally don't understand it, but I'm impressed anyway. | |
| 19:49 | Braedon | lol |
| 19:49 | jcamins | I think every single line and dot is a separate image. |
| 19:50 | Braedon | yeah, seems to be |
| 19:50 | jcamins | Our library catalog logo should do that. |
| 19:50 | A gyroscopic oak leaf. | |
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| 19:52 | Braedon | it is really hard to read google's code - they always remove all the white space for obvious reasons |
| 19:53 | * Braedon | needs an editor that automatically formats javascript |
| 19:53 | jcamins | Reducing bandwidth requirements? ;) |
| 19:53 | * Braedon | actually needs to stop procrastinating and get back to work |
| 19:53 | Braedon | jcamins: yip yip |
| 19:53 | chris | we minify ours too |
| 19:54 | http://static.stuff.co.nz/1283[…]mepage-all.min.js | |
| 20:00 | wizzyrea | hopefully this is as close as any of us get to earl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]e=player_embedded |
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| 20:27 | gmcharlt | indradg: not to my knowledge; it would mostly be a matter of a lot of bookkeeping (setting up MARC frameworks, indexing configs, display configs, etc.) |
| 20:28 | but (assuming that community info records were the only thing residing in the database) you could treat them as bibs | |
| 20:29 | making CI records live alongside bib records would take more work | |
| 20:29 | indradg | gmcharlt, that was what I was thinking too |
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| 20:30 | gmcharlt | of course, it does expose one to silliness such as the question of how does one check out a person |
| 20:30 | indradg | heh |
| 20:31 | jcamins | gmcharlt: actually, a few libraries experimented with that as a publicity stunt. |
| 20:31 | indradg | gmcharlt, notforloan :P |
| 20:31 | * wizzyrea | ponders circulating people... backs away from the thought |
| 20:31 | chris | thats what i plan to do for kohacon |
| 20:32 | indradg | jcamins, any links or URLs w.r.t. that ^^^? |
| 20:32 | chris | you lot are all being issued out to the room |
| 20:32 | jcamins | I'd have to look. |
| 20:32 | I don't think they actually used CI, though. | |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | because, you can't check us out. >.> |
| 20:33 | jcamins | indradg: http://www.worcester.ac.uk/ils/107.htm |
| 20:33 | http://www.writerscentrenorwic[…]humanlibrary.aspx | |
| 20:33 | indradg | jcamins, taking a look |
| 20:34 | jcamins | wizzyrea: The Music Man suggests otherwise. :P |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | or you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. |
| 20:36 | jcamins | The new theme song for the reference area? |
| 20:36 | indradg | wizzyrea, thats so hotel california :P |
| 20:38 | jcamins | I now have both Marian _and_ Hotel California stuck in my head. |
| 20:38 | Please take one of them out. | |
| 20:40 | Braedon | http://unhearit.com/ |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | YES |
| 20:40 | gmcharlt | jcamins: just for you - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_47KVJV8DU |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | thank you that is what I was looking for, braedon |
| 20:41 | ... unhearit just gave me "baby don't hurt me | |
| 20:41 | " | |
| 20:41 | Braedon | lol |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea | er |
| 20:41 | "what is love" | |
| 20:41 | oh, and the macarena | |
| 20:41 | jcamins | I don't know how to turn it off! |
| 20:41 | ;) | |
| 20:42 | And that's my cue to leave. | |
| 20:42 | Have a good night, #koha | |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | omg. unhearit is on a roll |
| 20:42 | I just got the swing version of gaga's poker face | |
| 20:43 | ...which is better than it might seem. | |
| 20:43 | Braedon | haha |
| 20:43 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | though telephone is the one that really benefits from swingification |
| 20:43 | jcamins | Kind of scary to think about. |
| 20:43 | Bye! | |
| 20:43 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | later :) |
| 20:47 | indradg | goodnight #koha |
| 20:47 | indradg is now known as indradg|Z | |
| 20:50 | * Elwell | catches up on the quake news and scrolls back -- all OK? |
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| 20:58 | Braedon_m | Hehe, why has it taken me so long to get an android client? |
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| 21:02 | Braedon_m | This is going to chew through mobile data isn't it... |
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| 21:19 | wizzyrea | nobody's reported fatal error problems with the new label creator that I've seen, right? |
| 21:19 | with saving templates? | |
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