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| 06:42 | wasabi | hmmm, i just clicked that PTFS have registered koha-community.net and koha-community.com, nice.... |
| 06:44 | its a pity PTFS's haven't got round to pointing them to a useful website yet | |
| 06:47 | ... i guess they registered the DNS names to sabotage the success of the k-c.org website, so sad :( | |
| 07:14 | chris | kohacommunity.org too |
| 07:14 | they are still openly hostile | |
| 07:15 | their apologists need to stop apologising for them, and force them to change their behaviour | |
| 07:20 | wasabi | id like to write an email to the koha-list about this, this stuff is just unacceptable |
| 07:21 | chris | yeah, it really is |
| 07:25 | wasabi | to me, the PTFS are aggressively sabotaging the project |
| 07:25 | its that simple... | |
| 07:27 | chris | yes, it is, they are working all sorts of angles, trademark attacks, domainames, kohails.com etc, lying blatantly about HLT, saying that Koha code is 'toxic' and to use Harley, and on and on |
| 07:28 | even things as simple as calling it KOHA, and changing the logo | |
| 07:28 | wasabi | wow, thats a new one?!? |
| 07:28 | chris | meanwhile still taking bugfixes, advice and help |
| 07:28 | wasabi: happened at ala | |
| 07:28 | wasabi | ahh.. |
| 07:28 | heh, thats funny | |
| 07:29 | what was the new logo? | |
| 07:29 | lol, thats cute.. | |
| 07:30 | chris | http://blog.bssd.org/mu/aklibr[…]8/26/koha-at-ala/ |
| 07:30 | 2 secs | |
| 07:32 | sent to your gmal | |
| 07:32 | i | |
| 07:35 | wasabi | wow, so they have.. |
| 07:36 | what a strange game, they play | |
| 07:37 | visionary leadership | |
| 07:38 | chris | yeah, what bothers me, is that usually sensible people still dont seem to get it, ptfs arent friends to koha, they are working their best to mess it up. Its just that the community wont let that happen that is stoping it |
| 07:39 | wasabi | well.... |
| 07:40 | .. once the kc-.org ranking moves up to 1st, the problem should stop, i reckon | |
| 07:40 | chris | yup |
| 07:41 | some good news | |
| 07:41 | http://www.pennmanor.net/techblog/?p=517 | |
| 07:41 | wasabi | theres still a bunch of people that hit koha.org 1st, and wander into here, and the mailing-lists.. |
| 07:42 | chris | wasabi: yeah not so much them, they usually listen, its the ones that defend ptfs |
| 07:42 | "they have too much to do" etc | |
| 07:42 | wasabi | ahh, i have yet to meet many yet |
| 07:43 | well, this situation of PTFS is *not* just business | |
| 07:44 | chris | nope |
| 07:44 | larsw | Koha code is toxic? que? |
| 07:45 | chris | yeah someone was told that when they asked why they couldnt just use koha not harley |
| 07:46 | larsw | *sigh* |
| 07:46 | I need to invent a time machine and go back and re-design humans to not be so nasty | |
| 07:48 | wasabi | oops s/business/busyness/ |
| 07:49 | larsw | "Koha: it's not business, it's personal" |
| 07:50 | chris | heh |
| 07:50 | that'd be a good tshirt | |
| 07:51 | wasabi | registering DNS-variants of the officially-elected koha website - and then dev-nulling them, is deliberate |
| 07:51 | larsw | chris, there's time for making t-shirts for kohacon... *hmmm* :) |
| 07:51 | chris | oohhh good idea |
| 07:52 | http://www.cafepress.com/justobey.407428972 | |
| 07:52 | wasabi | .. and an old and sleazy trick :/ |
| 07:52 | larsw | wasabi, agree |
| 07:53 | wasabi | as is the NZ 'koha' trademark attempt |
| 07:53 | busy indeed! | |
| 07:54 | chris | there is a place in courtenay central that can whack up tshirts pretty fast, i should get some designs made |
| 07:56 | larsw | chris, we've had a few shirts made at the place next to Subway; the guy there is a bit weird, but the shirts were ok and the price was cheap |
| 07:57 | chris | ahh cool |
| 07:57 | the one on manners? | |
| 07:57 | larsw | yeah |
| 07:58 | chris | sweet nice and close |
| 07:58 | wasabi | will be interesting to see if PTFS stick around after their koha.org google-analystics-graphs start going down |
| 07:58 | larsw | hey, that's a thing I can do for Koha, I can add a link to koha-community.org |
| 07:58 | wasabi | ... which will happen after the kc.org rank increase |
| 07:59 | larsw | done |
| 08:00 | wasabi | perhaps a snappy sale to SCO, of koha.org |
| 08:01 | or they could be great - and give koha.org to HLT | |
| 08:02 | chris | we live in hope :) |
| 08:02 | wasabi | i would, if i was a CEO... in a similar position... |
| 08:02 | chris | it is the smart thing to do |
| 08:03 | wasabi | welll.. at least point it to kc.org - as a start! |
| 08:04 | (which is actually admined) | |
| 08:04 | chris | admined? |
| 08:04 | ahh yeah, actually kept up to date | |
| 08:06 | wasabi | read: by a team of people that ensure that more than half the urls on the home-page arent busted |
| 08:07 | anyhoo... this NZ trademark-stuff has made me a bit wound-up | |
| 08:07 | so , i have a little vent, and feel better! :) | |
| 08:09 | gotta scoot, thanks for listening | |
| 08:10 | chris | no worries, spotya later |
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| 13:07 | jcamins | Good morning. In the unlikely event anyone was here, is it possible to use the koha-common utilities with a dev install? |
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| 17:44 | CGI341 | hello, is anybody to help me in koha |
| 17:45 | ?? | |
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