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| 01:20 | wizzyrea_ | ok darling (teehee) I'm back. sorry for the delay. |
| 01:24 | darling | no worries, I needed my coffee anyhow |
| 01:25 | I have a mtg in about 25 mins but I'm free til then | |
| 01:25 | wizzyrea_ | k cool |
| 01:25 | darling | i think the latest test was to put google in there so we could see if the rewrite rule was getting hit |
| 01:26 | and if so what value was getting passed to it | |
| 01:26 | wizzyrea_ | it looks like the right value |
| 01:27 | darling | ok.. hm -- my brain hurts in that case |
| 01:28 | RewriteRule ^documentation/3-2-manual/([a-z0-9]+)$ documentation/3-2-manual/index.php?ch=$1 [L] | |
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| 01:28 | darling | is what i think should work |
| 01:28 | but it's not | |
| 01:28 | wizzyrea_ | hmmm, I wonder if it's that the conversion isn't adding a .html to the filename |
| 01:31 | darling | so, we get a 404 with the above rule - right? |
| 01:31 | wizzyrea_ | correct |
| 01:32 | darling | try the full destination, so- |
| 01:32 | RewriteRule ^documentation/3-2-manual/([a-z0-9]+)$ http://koha-community.org/docu[…]l/index.php?ch=$1 [L] | |
| 01:33 | which looks like it would just look tho which we don't want... | |
| 01:33 | wizzyrea_ | bingo! |
| 01:33 | darling | look/loop |
| 01:33 | ! | |
| 01:33 | works? | |
| 01:33 | wizzyrea_ | hm well the url is still ugly |
| 01:34 | but this works | |
| 01:34 | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/3-2-manual/c19 | |
| 01:34 | darling | yeah -- it's better |
| 01:34 | wizzyrea_ | so if the goal was to make happy urls for google to follow, I think that's success |
| 01:34 | darling | only half |
| 01:34 | google hates redirects | |
| 01:34 | so it will work better than before but we still need to solve this | |
| 01:35 | wizzyrea_ | < is totally glad to have help on it |
| 01:35 | darling | but at least people can see the pages |
| 01:35 | this thing's peeving me -- have to make it work now | |
| 01:35 | wizzyrea_ | hehe now you know how I feel :) |
| 01:36 | darling | yup |
| 01:36 | wizzyrea_ | though I bang on it in fits and starts (busy with work work and all that) |
| 01:37 | darling | did we try -- RewriteRule ^documentation/3-2-manual/([a-z0-9]+)$ documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=$1 [L] |
| 01:37 | wizzyrea_ | yes I think that was the original |
| 01:37 | darling | shouldn't make a difference |
| 01:37 | poo | |
| 01:37 | wizzyrea_ | poo indeed |
| 01:37 | darling | I'll maybe read up on rewrites more |
| 01:38 | wizzyrea_ | WP is funny about this stuff, because it does some of it's own rewriting |
| 01:38 | I think I sent you the full .htaccess | |
| 01:38 | perhaps it needs to be after the other rules? | |
| 01:38 | it's on top at the moment | |
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| 01:44 | darling | wizzyrea, !! |
| 01:44 | RewriteRule ^documentation/3-2-manual/([a-z0-9]+)$ http://koha-community.org/wp-c[…]/kohadocs/$1.html [P] | |
| 01:44 | oh, wait | |
| 01:44 | no | |
| 01:45 | sorry, false alrm | |
| 01:45 | wizzyrea_ | lol :) |
| 01:45 | darling | would probly work but you'd loose the WP decore |
| 01:45 | * wizzyrea_ | runs around with arms flailing "The russians are coming!" |
| 01:45 | wizzyrea_ | it was probably funnier in my head |
| 01:46 | chris | yay!! |
| 01:46 | wizzyrea_ | especially the part where I ran into the wall and fell down |
| 01:46 | ^.^ | |
| 01:46 | chris | kristina just got thelibrary.co.nz to sponsor the first round of bubbles for everyone |
| 01:46 | for first night of conference | |
| 01:46 | wizzyrea_ | neat! |
| 01:47 | well | |
| 01:47 | we can try it and see what it does | |
| 01:47 | maybe it would be educational | |
| 01:47 | I can fallback super quick | |
| 01:48 | that gives a super 404, can't find *anything* | |
| 01:48 | darling | i hate electricity |
| 01:49 | wizzyrea_ | ! |
| 01:49 | darling | i have to run off now, I think the full redirect is probly the right thing for now |
| 01:49 | and we'll keep pecking at this | |
| 01:55 | (other things to try might be putting the showdocs thing up a level or just someplace else in the tree) | |
| 01:55 | laters | |
| 01:56 | wizzyrea_ | hm. gl with your meeting |
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| 03:58 | Amit | heya pianohack, chris |
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| 04:26 | robin | patch attached to bug 4852, now time for beer :) |
| 04:26 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4852 minor, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Facets doesn't work with direct CCL queries |
| 04:35 | wizzyrea_ | just so you all know; you're awesome. <hug> |
| 04:35 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]e=player_embedded | |
| 04:35 | </hug> | |
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| 11:52 | owen | Hi #koha |
| 11:58 | jwag_mtg | Hi owen |
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| 12:00 | owen | Man, I worked for ages yesterday on bug 4211, and chris hammered out the right fix in no time |
| 12:00 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4211 major, P2, ---, oleonard, NEW, Acquisitions actions on suggestions don't generate email |
| 12:00 | owen | chris++ |
| 12:02 | jwagner | Yep! |
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| 12:04 | owen | Hi druthb |
| 12:04 | druthb | g'mornin'. :) |
| 12:19 | Nate | morning owen, jwagner, druthb |
| 12:24 | jwagner | Morning, Nate |
| 12:24 | druthb | Hi, Nate. :) |
| 12:24 | Nate | :D |
| 12:25 | magnus | hi y'all |
| 12:26 | jwagner | Hi magnus |
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| 12:49 | briceSanc | hi all |
| 12:53 | owen | Hi briceSanc |
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| 13:35 | briceSanc | I'm always unable to proceed a hold in OPAC or in Intranet, do you know if there is a special config ? |
| 13:36 | ebegin | briceSanc, do you have any log? |
| 13:36 | owen | briceSanc: Do you have your circulation rules set up? |
| 13:37 | briceSanc | My circulation rules are set up |
| 13:37 | i don't know for the log | |
| 13:38 | When i want to Hold an item, Koha says : Cannot Place Hold / * Too Many Holds: Brice Sanchez has too many holds. / * No copies are available to be placed on hold | |
| 13:38 | but my account has no holds recorded | |
| 13:41 | owen | Perhaps it's Bug 3785? |
| 13:41 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3785 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, New Install, no maxreserves setting, OPAC holds fail |
| 13:43 | ebegin | briceSanc, do you have a maxreserves value in your sysprefs^ |
| 13:43 | ? | |
| 13:43 | briceSanc | i check |
| 13:44 | i've : maxreserves : Patrons can only have 50 holds at once. | |
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| 13:49 | ebegin | briceSanc, are you logged with your admin password or a normal user? |
| 13:50 | briceSanc | the twice (admin for intranet and normal user for OPAC) |
| 13:51 | ebegin | do you have all messages at once: Cannot Place Hold / * Too Many Holds: Brice Sanchez has too many holds. / * No copies are available to be placed on hold ? |
| 13:51 | briceSanc | yep |
| 13:51 | ebegin | weird... |
| 13:52 | briceSanc | yep |
| 13:53 | ebegin | Expiry date of your user? |
| 13:53 | briceSanc | 2015 |
| 13:54 | ebegin | That is the problem!!! Everybody dies in 2012 :) kidding of course :) |
| 13:54 | briceSanc | just a LOL |
| 13:54 | ok | |
| 13:54 | so have good end of times | |
| 13:54 | i go to bahamas | |
| 13:54 | bye | |
| 13:55 | ebegin | Branch of your user vs branch of the item you are trying to put a hold on? |
| 13:55 | briceSanc | item and user are in the same branch |
| 13:57 | in circulation rules : a Student (My group for the test) in My library who want to loan a book have : 10 Current checkouts allowed, 7 Loan Period, 0.00 Fine Amount, 0 Fine Charging Interval, 1 Fine Grace Period, 1 Suspension in Days, 2 Renewals Allowed, 30 Holds Allowed, REntal Discount 5% | |
| 13:58 | Dafaults for this library : 30 Total Current Checkouts Allowed, From Any Library for Hold Policy | |
| 13:58 | In fact, all Hold Policy = From any library | |
| 14:00 | and the item i'm want to hold is currently loan | |
| 14:04 | ebegin | Do you have multiple branches? |
| 14:06 | owen | briceSanc: Do you have a rule set up under default branch for default patron category and default item type? |
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| 14:15 | briceSanc | yes |
| 14:16 | and they are all Hold Policy = From any library | |
| 14:16 | for book and student | |
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| 14:19 | owen | briceSanc: I was referring to the top section. Do you have a default rule set up in the first section where the hold count is defined? |
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| 14:21 | briceSanc | no |
| 14:21 | i'm creating one | |
| 14:22 | wizzyrea | that's your problem |
| 14:22 | briceSanc | i hope ! |
| 14:23 | YOOOUUUUUUOOUUUUUUU that's was my problem | |
| 14:23 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 14:23 | ebegin | Good catch Owen! |
| 14:23 | briceSanc | thanks everyone ! |
| 14:24 | i will write the answer in my manual | |
| 14:24 | wizzyrea | it's in the bug report for bug 3785 as well |
| 14:24 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3785 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, New Install, no maxreserves setting, OPAC holds fail |
| 14:25 | briceSanc | Yes but it's dificult to find because the begin of the problem is not mine |
| 14:27 | when i will be sure of all procedure in my manual, i will pusblish it to the community | |
| 14:27 | wizzyrea | cool beans |
| 14:28 | owen | Maybe a FAQ item on koha-community.org? |
| 14:29 | briceSanc | yes it will be good |
| 14:29 | wizzyrea | sure, that's easy enough to do. Which version specifically has this problem? |
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| 14:29 | briceSanc | Koha 3.2 |
| 14:30 | wizzyrea | the latest head or some revisions back? |
| 14:30 | (I thought there was a patch to fix this) | |
| 14:31 | briceSanc | latest head |
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| 14:56 | reva | hi anyone, good mid-mornig. I have a question I was testing out inputting the LCCN: 97192537 record in Koha (3.00.06, a Live CD install in virtualBox); did not z39.50 import it; but just transcribed it by typing it in. The author added entries in 710s are showing up as links in the publisher info (260 $b), and place of publication (260 $a) is showing up after the publisher (260 $b). But LoC has everything displaying as they should b |
| 14:57 | jcamins | reva: the end of your message was cut off. |
| 14:58 | Also, I'm not quite sure what the problem is. If you entered the data in the wrong field, or put subfields in the wrong order, you can copy-and-paste or change the order of subfields, respectively. | |
| 14:59 | If that's not what you mean, perhaps you could show us a screenshot of what happened? | |
| 15:00 | reva | ok, I will try again: when I hand transcribed LCCN: 97192537, my publisher information is picking up the links from 710s and displaying them as links. Also the place of publication is displaying after the name of publisher. I have tried moving the sub-fields up and down as needed. |
| 15:01 | jcamins | Are you encountering this problem in the OPAC or the staff client? |
| 15:02 | reva | the staff client jcamins: |
| 15:03 | also, how do I include the screeshot int his chat? sorry about this ignorance:). | |
| 15:03 | jcamins | That's a very good question. I have to look that up every time. |
| 15:04 | reva | jcamins: I feel relieved that experts have to look it up:). |
| 15:04 | jcamins | http://tinypic.com/ - I think that will do it. |
| 15:04 | Then you just copy the link into IRC. | |
| 15:06 | reva | ok, hold on while I log in through the VirtualBox browser. |
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| 15:14 | reva1 | reva is now reva1 |
| 15:27 | jcamins: upload fails in tinypic.com basically, I hand transcribed all the fields for the LCCN 97192537 as it appears in their MARC view. In koh, the result has the following oddity: The 260 $b publisher is showing up as links (These names are also author added entries in 710 $a). Also in Koha, the place of publication (260 $a) is showing after publisher (260 $b). FYI, since I could not clone 260 $b, I repeated 260 tag to create th | |
| 15:32 | jcamins | reva1: it looks to me like the 710s are for the corporate authors, who also happen to be publishers. |
| 15:32 | Let me see if I can upload a screenshot of what I see. | |
| 15:33 | http://i36.tinypic.com/33o2nh3.png | |
| 15:33 | reva1 | yes jcamins: they are corporate authors. But in Library of Congress, in the 260 $b, they are not showing up as links. I will come to repeating the 260 tag after you have a chance to see if you can find an answer to this. |
| 15:34 | jcamins | That's a screenshot of what the record looks like for me on 3.2. |
| 15:34 | (or, rather, a version very close to 3.2, since 3.2 hasn't been released yet) | |
| 15:35 | reva1 | jcamins: this is exactly the record, could you upload the mar view from Koha please? because in yours, the record displays correctly for the fields I had problems with. |
| 15:35 | jcamins | I used z39.50. |
| 15:36 | So that's probably why it works. Why aren't you using z39.50? | |
| 15:36 | reva1 | ok, I have 3.00.06 and via a Live Cd. And as I had mentioned to Owen subfield cloning had a bug in that version which has been fixed in 3.2. |
| 15:37 | jcamins | Yes, I remember that now that you mention it. |
| 15:37 | reva1 | I will; but I was just preparing training; so wanted to hand trascribe some to test out. Also, in our library there are materials for which there are no z39.50 importable records from anywhere:(. |
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| 15:38 | jcamins | I do a lot of original cataloging here. Let me find a recent record. |
| 15:39 | Mostly I've been doing copy cataloging these past two days, so it may take a moment. | |
| 15:39 | Wait, I think I might know what the problem is. | |
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| 15:40 | jcamins | reva1: what is XSLTDetailsDisplay set to? |
| 15:42 | reva1 | sorry, it disconnected me. But I read what you said. i was saying since we also have to a bit of original cataloging with a lot of Corporate authors, I thought I would test out the features before training staff on them. I will wait for you to see if there is a work around. |
| 15:43 | I do not readily know what XSLT is? It is not the ISBD, correct? | |
| 15:44 | owen | reva1: XSLTDetailsDisplay is a system preference |
| 15:45 | reva1 | so I set it in admin under what? |
| 15:45 | jcamins | reva1: Here is a record I created from original cataloging with a corporate author: http://donum.numismatics.org/c[…]blionumber=175661 |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | click on more -> administration |
| 15:45 | in the Search Preferences box, type XSLT | |
| 15:45 | you are looking for the preference labeled "XSLTDetailsDisplay" | |
| 15:46 | reva1 | I will check under syster pref. now. |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | if it's off, turn it on. If it's on, turn it off. |
| 15:46 | and see what happens | |
| 15:50 | reva1 | ok , I see it; we have not really set up the OPAC yet. Would I turn all of then "ON"? |
| 15:50 | wizzyrea | the display is better in the opac with XSLT on, imo |
| 15:50 | and iirc, the results look a lot better in staff with xslt on, as well | |
| 15:50 | reva1 | I meant the "results Display" and the "Details Display". |
| 15:51 | wizzyrea | sure, turn em on, you can always turn em off |
| 15:51 | reva1 | Ok, I am setting them to on now. But does it make a difference in Staff Normal View? |
| 15:51 | jcamins | It should. That's what you need to check now. ;) |
| 15:51 | wizzyrea | if you have details display turned on it should |
| 15:57 | reva1 | now, it does not seem to make a difference in my Normal display as a staff. Anyway, the links in the 260 $b are still there (being picked up from 710 $a) and the place of publication is still below the publishers. (When I tested books with normal personal name authors, and places of publication, the 260 and its subfields display ok.) |
| 15:57 | jcamins | reva1: why don't you download the MARC record and e-mail it to me, so that we can see if it does the same thing in my catalog. |
| 15:58 | caminsnumismatics.org |
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| 15:58 | reva1 | Ok, I will try importing the same record through z30.50 as a dupe and see what it does. |
| 15:59 | jecamins: you mean the one I hand transcribed, correct. i will do that. hold on for a few mins. Thanks. | |
| 15:59 | jcamins | reva: Right. |
| 16:00 | reva1 | do you want it saved as marcxml or which file type? |
| 16:01 | jcamins | MARCXML or regular MARC. |
| 16:01 | I don't care if it's UTF-8 or MARC8. | |
| 16:04 | reva1 | Ok, it should be getting to you shortly jcamins: |
| 16:15 | jcamins | reva1: I still haven't received it. Our mail server is probably down. Maybe look at the record in the Raw MARC view in the OPAC, and copy it into a pastebin http://pastebin.org/pastebin.php |
| 16:16 | wizzyrea | or paste.koha-community.org |
| 16:16 | jcamins | Wait, just got it, never mind. |
| 16:17 | reva1 | Ok, see how it displays for you. |
| 16:19 | jcamins | It displays correctly. |
| 16:21 | http://i37.tinypic.com/30kw2kp.png | |
| 16:22 | reva1 | hmm.. I am puzzled now. I see that it displays no links for the publisher as in my staff view. could you see it in your staff view please, jcamins:? |
| 16:23 | nevermind; I was l;ooking at the staff view. | |
| 16:23 | are you looking at it in 3.2? | |
| 16:25 | sorry for the typos. Since I have not configured the OPAC client yet, is the Normal the one the patron sees in the OPAC? | |
| 16:26 | jcamins | Yes, I have 3.2. |
| 16:26 | No, this is the staff view. | |
| 16:26 | I don't have 3.0.6, but I figured we could narrow down where the problem was by testing the record in 3.2. | |
| 16:27 | The OPAC is a different view entirely. | |
| 16:28 | I don't know anything about 3.0.6, so I don't know what else to suggest. | |
| 16:30 | reva1 | I do not see the place of publication in your view; but in the Library of Congress the place of publication shows, as it does in my staff normal view. (Only in mine, it displays below the publisher, not above it as is normal.) |
| 16:31 | jcamins | Oh, that may be one of my customizations. |
| 16:31 | I never use the Normal staff view, just MARC. | |
| 16:32 | reva1 | the question for me now as I see it: would this anomalies matter? (ok, for the customization part.) |
| 16:33 | jcamins | Right. I would not think it did matter, since the data is all in the right place. |
| 16:33 | reva1 | ok, I also look at the MARC view before plunging into re-edits. But for training I have to use both to point out what effects certain additions in MARC produce. |
| 16:33 | jcamins | To me the important thing is the OPAC- I understand MARC and bibliographic data, my patrons don't. |
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| 16:34 | reva1 | Ok; agreed OPAC should be the ultimate arbiter here. |
| 16:35 | Ok, if the Standards Bureau here ever gets big enough to share bibliographic data we won't mess up any catalogs? | |
| 16:36 | jcamins | Not as a result of the display. |
| 16:36 | If the MARC isn't correct, of course, that would be a problem. | |
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| 16:39 | reva1 | Oh yes; data in the correct tags and fields. Ok, releived. I will try importing the LC record and see what it does. Thanks jcamins and others who were helping. Will most likely be back:). Bye. |
| 16:43 | Oops, one more short question. If I accidently remove a subfield (by hitting the minus sign next to the subfield box) how do I restore it? (funnily enough, in 3.00.06 the + does not work, but the - sign does!) | |
| 16:44 | owen | If the + doesn't work you'll have to reload the page I guess |
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| 17:22 | reva | owen: if I want to reinsert a subfield (that is part of the chosen framework) how do I do that? |
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| 17:44 | indradg | hi i'm trying to update my indexes by running the /rebuild_zebra.pl with -b option... i'm running against these errors - http://pastebin.ca/1916527 |
| 17:44 | any clue how to rectify this | |
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| 17:48 | indradg | chris, gmcharlt any clue about ^^^ |
| 17:50 | gmcharlt | indradg: looks ominous - assuming that a complete rebuild of the indexes is OK, I suggest doing it -r to completely rebuild it |
| 17:50 | indradg | gmcharlt, ok! |
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| 17:58 | indradg | gmcharlt, thanks! rebuilding cleared the problem... i only had about 14460 bibs in the db |
| 17:59 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 17:59 | owen | Hi gmcharlt, how's it going? |
| 18:03 | gmcharlt | hi owen |
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| 18:44 | owen | Hi pianohack |
| 18:45 | pianohack | hey owen |
| 18:45 | How's it going? | |
| 18:45 | owen | Pretty well. Busy getting in over my head in Perl the last couple of days. |
| 19:02 | indradg | i'm using Koha 3.00.06.010 and my authority searches dont seem to work... what am I missing? any clues? |
| 19:05 | gmcharlt, ^^^ :) | |
| 19:05 | owen | indradg: Are you sure you're indexing authorities? |
| 19:05 | gmcharlt | indradg: simple thing out of the way first - authorities are indexed? (rebuild_zebra.pl -a ? |
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| 19:09 | indradg | owen, gmcharlt yes... they are indexed |
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| 19:09 | indradg_ | owen, gmcharlt yes.. indeed they are - http://pastebin.ca/1916594 |
| 19:09 | * indradg_ | has exactly 2 auth entries in this |
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| 19:14 | gmcharlt | what do you see in the Apache logn when you try an auth serach? |
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| 19:17 | indradg_ | gmcharlt, something ominous -> auth_finder.pl: oAuth error: Database unavailable (109) Bib-1 |
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| 19:21 | indradg_ | gmcharlt, my koha-error.log also has this - http://pastebin.ca/1916601 |
| 19:22 | gmcharlt | indradg_: both amount to the same thing; the first error caused the second |
| 19:22 | check your koha-conf.xml just to make sure that the authority Zebra adtabase entries weren't commented out or something | |
| 19:23 | and try bouncing zebrasrv as well | |
| 19:23 | indradg_ | ok |
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| 19:36 | chris | morning |
| 19:38 | owen | Hi chris |
| 19:42 | briceSanc | Do you know if there is a plan to add AJax for the main search box in OPAC ? |
| 19:42 | owen | Ajax doing what? |
| 19:42 | Autocomplete? | |
| 19:42 | indradg_ | gmcharlt, my koha-conf.xml looked alright... however bouncing zebrasvr seems to have worked... returning results now |
| 19:42 | :) | |
| 19:42 | gmcharlt, thanks :) | |
| 19:42 | briceSanc | Ajax to don't reload the search box |
| 19:43 | owen | briceSanc: Do you mean to use Ajax to load search results onto the page without refreshing? |
| 19:43 | briceSanc | exactly |
| 19:44 | owen | I've never heard anyone ask for that before |
| 19:44 | briceSanc | (sorry for my basic english) |
| 19:44 | owen | That's okay briceSanc, I just wanted to make sure I understood |
| 19:44 | Personally I don't see a benefit to that | |
| 19:45 | briceSanc | ok |
| 19:46 | Koha stay speed even if he has 100 000 books to search ? | |
| 19:47 | owen | We have 156000 biblios and 288000 items and we don't have problems with speed |
| 19:48 | schuster | Plano ISD has over 250,000 bibs and 1.3 million items no speed problem here on our Dell server. I think 2500 series? |
| 19:48 | chris | yep, search is not the slow thing in koha |
| 19:48 | schuster | 68 locations |
| 19:48 | briceSanc | ok, it's good to know |
| 19:49 | chris | circulation is where we probably want to put some ajax |
| 19:49 | schuster | good to see you chris.. |
| 19:49 | chris | you to schuster |
| 19:49 | schuster | circ yes please speed is of the essence! |
| 19:49 | owen | We keep talking about adding ajax to circ... |
| 19:49 | chris | pianohack started |
| 19:49 | briceSanc | i understand the no benefit of Ajax in search results ! |
| 19:51 | chris_n | g'afternoon |
| 19:51 | * chris_n | crawls out from under the pile of his bip backlog |
| 19:52 | chris | mod_perl or plack are also options for speeding up everything, but C4::Context needs a bit of work before those are safe, currently C4::Context caches things like sysprefs, which is fine with cgi, but with persitance, it means things that are changed in the syspref interface arent reflected |
| 19:52 | until the server (or thread) is restarted | |
| 19:54 | but there are ways around that | |
| 19:55 | my plan is to follow larsw advice, and create some benchmarking tools, and benchmark the current app, then work on performance with something to gauge the gains against | |
| 19:56 | larsw | yay, benchmarking |
| 19:56 | it's necessary to be careful about what you benchmark, of course, but without benchmarks, you basically don't know if you're moving in the right direction :) | |
| 19:56 | chris | *nod* |
| 19:59 | owen | That's it for me. Enjoy your weekend everyone |
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| 20:36 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 20:36 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 20.3�C (1:40 PM PDT on August 13, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66047 |
| 20:37 | munin | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 38.8�C (3:44 PM CDT on August 13, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM CDT Saturday... |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | neat |
| 20:38 | chris | @wunder wellington,nz |
| 20:38 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (8:00 AM NZST on August 14, 2010). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:38 | brendan | so we got a high, a low, and perfection :D |
| 20:40 | schuster | @wunder 75035 |
| 20:40 | munin | schuster: The current temperature in Preston Lakes, Frisco, Texas is 38.5�C (3:45 PM CDT on August 13, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006.3 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM CDT Saturday... |
| 20:40 | schuster | Wow hotter in Kansas! |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | yep. |
| 20:41 | chris | @wunder pittsburgh, pa |
| 20:41 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Penn Ave, Wilkinsburg, Pennsylvania is 29.9�C (4:47 PM EDT on August 13, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:41 | chris | laurel and the boys are off there in 3 weeks |
| 20:41 | brendan | pittsburg is always cloudly |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea | it'll be fallish time by then |
| 20:41 | not so awful | |
| 20:41 | hopefully | |
| 20:42 | schuster | DC in June was HORRIBLE! |
| 20:45 | chris | shes just going to silverlake (near LA) where her brother lives, and then the burgh |
| 20:46 | to take the kids to meet the grandparents (well kahu has met them before, ata hasnt) | |
| 20:46 | brendan | and Disneyland ? |
| 20:47 | chris | yup |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | fun fun |
| 20:47 | brendan | awesome! |
| 20:50 | chris | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=68564 |
| 20:50 | brendan | cute :) |
| 20:51 | chris | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=68395 |
| 20:51 | he wants to hug pluto this time he said | |
| 20:51 | 'he is a good friend to mickey, i want to hug him and pat him' | |
| 20:51 | they have been learning about being good friends at kindergarten | |
| 20:52 | brendan | yeah pluto deserves some hugs |
| 20:52 | one of my favorites | |
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