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| 00:55 | robin | Who runs the Koha git server? |
| 00:55 | Fetching kc | |
| 00:55 | git.koha-community.org[0: 174.143.233.17]: errno=Connection refused | |
| 00:55 | fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused) | |
| 01:00 | larsw | hi, robin |
| 01:00 | robin | larsw: hola |
| 01:35 | chris | yeah someone one something rebooted the server, gitweb is up, the gitserver isnt |
| 01:35 | gmcharlt or brendan | |
| 01:35 | both of whom will be asleep | |
| 01:36 | try that | |
| 01:37 | * chris | goes back to rfp |
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| 02:52 | chris | im pretty sure that Christopher White is not actually running Koha |
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| 02:57 | jcamins | If my nick has been bobbing on and off IRC, I do apologize. |
| 02:57 | Network troubles, and we weren't able to log in long enough to disable autorecon. | |
| 02:58 | chris | jcamins: you arent even noticeable in the noise of everyone else ;) |
| 02:58 | ppl bounce in and out a lot | |
| 02:58 | jcamins | Good. |
| 02:59 | I just read that e-mail. It does seem odd. | |
| 02:59 | chris | i do know that one of hte things LEK did, is rename db columns |
| 03:00 | just another thing to make reintegration hard | |
| 03:00 | sure fixing typos is good, but if its lasted 9 years, i think we could just leave it :) | |
| 03:00 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 03:01 | What a mess, upgrading. | |
| 03:02 | chris | yup |
| 03:02 | jcamins | I guess maybe that was the point. |
| 03:02 | chris | i think so |
| 03:03 | if you are gonna lock ppl in, the point is to make the lock difficult to pick | |
| 03:03 | jcamins | Yeah, I guess. |
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| 03:52 | Amit | heya chris |
| 04:01 | richard | hi Amit |
| 04:01 | bit of a towelling for india in the cricket | |
| 04:02 | Amit | heya richard |
| 04:02 | hmm only 88 runs it is shameless | |
| 04:03 | richard: India also loose ODI ranking one NZ 2nd India 3rd | |
| 04:04 | richard | that is surprising. i didn't realise that nz were in a position to be that high |
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| 04:10 | Amit | hmm |
| 04:11 | richard: NZ is good in bowling department | |
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| 06:42 | * magnus | finds koha-community.org as hit #4 on google today, after koha.org, wikipedia and some hockey team |
| 06:43 | chris | moving up slowly :) |
| 06:50 | magnus | slowly but surely :-) |
| 06:52 | wasabi | reminds me to add 'koha-community.org' meta-tag stuff to my website... |
| 06:53 | fyi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_element | |
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| 07:51 | cait | morning #koha |
| 07:55 | magnus | morning cait |
| 07:55 | cait | hi magnus :) |
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| 09:18 | * magnus | wonders if koha has any kind of presence at IFLA2010 |
| 09:20 | chris | not that im aware of |
| 09:28 | cait | hi chris |
| 09:35 | chris | hi cait |
| 09:42 | cait | :) |
| 09:46 | someone around who wants to help me with a perl problem? :) | |
| 09:46 | chris | maybe :) |
| 09:47 | cait | ah :) |
| 09:47 | ok, bug 5003 | |
| 09:47 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5003 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Can not search for organisation by name |
| 09:47 | cait | the problem is, that gurarantor_search.pl always searches for patron category A |
| 09:48 | because it does not know if its started from an C or P account | |
| 09:48 | I tried to pass the category_type as url parameter, but I am not sure how to get this parameter into a variable in search_gurarantor.pl - what I tried is not working :( | |
| 09:51 | working on a paste :) | |
| 09:52 | chris | k |
| 09:54 | cait | http://paste.koha-community.org/42 |
| 09:58 | chris | that looks ok to me |
| 09:59 | * chris | will try something |
| 10:00 | chris | so you end up at the search box right? |
| 10:02 | [Wed Aug 11 22:02:10 2010] [error] [client 203.97.214.51] [Wed Aug 11 22:02:10 2010] guarantor_search.pl: C at /home/chris/git/koha.git/members/guarantor_search.pl line 50. | |
| 10:03 | seems to be passing it through for me | |
| 10:03 | but when i search, it doesnt (which makes sense because its not set in the form in the template) | |
| 10:04 | so what you need to do is pass that variable through to that template, then set it as a hiddent input | |
| 10:06 | cait | ah |
| 10:06 | thx chris, I will try that | |
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| 10:42 | smustafa | hello everyone... |
| 10:42 | I need help with my zebra + koha 3.1 latest | |
| 10:43 | When I run rebuild_zebra -a -b -z | |
| 10:43 | I get nothing, no errors, no display nothing | |
| 10:43 | and when I search Koha, still no results show | |
| 10:43 | :( :( | |
| 10:45 | chris | run it with -a -b -r -v |
| 10:46 | for the first run | |
| 10:46 | that will reset and rebuild the indexes, in verbose mode | |
| 10:46 | and if any errors occur you will see them | |
| 10:47 | smustafa | sighs.. |
| 10:47 | chris | if no errors, then you need to check you zebrasrv log (assuming zebrasrv is running of course .. search wont work without that) to see the error |
| 10:47 | smustafa | let me try |
| 10:48 | chris | wth the -z switch and without -v it will only update whats been changed (ie whats in the zebraqueue) and with no output, its designed ot be silent to be run as a cron job |
| 10:48 | smustafa | wow |
| 10:48 | that actually did something!!! | |
| 10:49 | thanks alot dear | |
| 10:49 | wasabi | yep, -r is 'reset' |
| 10:49 | chris | -z will be doing something too, if you have changes waiting to be indexed in your zebraqueue |
| 10:49 | smustafa | I didnt |
| 10:49 | because I used the same machine that had my koha 3.0 before but simply deleted the folder and re-installed the DEV of koha 3.1 | |
| 10:49 | I think thats why :) | |
| 10:50 | chris | then it was doing exactly what you told it to, nothng :) |
| 10:50 | smustafa | thanks alot chris |
| 10:50 | it works now :D | |
| 10:50 | let me check the OPAC | |
| 10:50 | chris | cool |
| 10:50 | smustafa | its perfect |
| 10:50 | thank you :D | |
| 10:50 | now I am happier than before hehe | |
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| 11:03 | cait | smustafa: I wrote a patch for your LC call number search problem - perhaps you want test it |
| 11:04 | smustafa | Cait, i don't know how to apply patches to my local branch |
| 11:04 | :( | |
| 11:04 | but I did see the code of the patch and I will implement it on my code | |
| 11:05 | thank you by the way Cait, I will also use the way you implemented it to add another field called search by DLC number | |
| 11:05 | My director wants that also... | |
| 11:06 | cait | perhaps you want to try to apply it, that's the command I always use: |
| 11:06 | git am -s -3 -i -u name_of_patch | |
| 11:07 | but don't ask me about the options :) | |
| 11:07 | smustafa | tehehe |
| 11:07 | whats the name of your patch? does it say it in the e-mail? | |
| 11:08 | cait | its attached to the bug |
| 11:08 | bug 5092 | |
| 11:08 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5092 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, No results when searching by LC Call Number: in Z39.50 Server |
| 11:09 | cait | click on the link "proposed patch" in the attachemet table at the top of the page to save it as .patch file |
| 11:09 | smustafa | ok let me see |
| 11:09 | ahh I have to apply by file? Not remotely? | |
| 11:10 | shoot let me search git | |
| 11:12 | cait | it is not in head yet |
| 11:12 | I would use a branch for testing | |
| 11:12 | smustafa | oh I see, so I do git am -s -3 -i -u /usr/share/patch_filename.patch |
| 11:12 | something like that | |
| 11:13 | cait | look ok to me |
| 11:16 | smustafa | It worked great thank you so much cait |
| 11:16 | now I learned how to apply file patches also :D | |
| 11:16 | woho | |
| 11:17 | cait | I learned from chris :) |
| 11:17 | smustafa | hehe chris helps everyone |
| 11:17 | cait | yes, he is great |
| 11:17 | chris++ | |
| 11:17 | will be back in a few minutes | |
| 11:18 | paul_p | chris answers so many questions, that I suspect there are 2 or 3 chris in fact :D |
| 11:18 | ( hello cait & smustafa ) | |
| 11:18 | smustafa | :) |
| 11:18 | alright guys, I will be leaving | |
| 11:18 | take care and thanks for helping out :) :) | |
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| 11:33 | cait | hi paul_p |
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| 12:13 | owen | Hi #koha |
| 12:17 | cait | hi owen :) |
| 12:21 | chris: yay it works :) | |
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| 12:37 | cait | bye all ! :) |
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| 12:38 | jwagner | owen, Bug 5113 -- Kurt's on an older mainstream version. The problem is fixed in later versions. |
| 12:38 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5113 normal, P5, ---, jwagner, NEW, Some OPAC search results not hyperlinked in Internet Explorer 8 |
| 12:39 | owen | jwagner: Thanks, I knew you were the one who would know |
| 12:41 | jwagner | Not sure where/what the fix was, but it's OK in both head and harley |
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| 13:00 | owen | I was just testing Bug 2585 to see if it was still an issue, and I'm getting weird results for a record which uses an authority record for its author |
| 13:00 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2585 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, XSLT bib details: search links for authorized names can be incorrect |
| 13:01 | owen | The XSLT OPAC detail view shows duplicate author links |
| 13:02 | One links to the author name (?q=au:Author,Name). The other links to what appears to be an authority search by number? | |
| 13:02 | "?q=an:2" | |
| 13:05 | I don't use authorities records outside of testing, so I don't know if this is typical or not | |
| 13:05 | Has anyone else seen this? | |
| 13:06 | nengard | owen, i've seen it, but not as duplicates - i've seen it as one or the other way |
| 13:07 | i think it should always do an author search - not an authority search | |
| 13:07 | let me go see what i get in my system | |
| 13:08 | where are you seeing duplicates? I only see one link and in my case it's going to authority | |
| 13:08 | owen | OPAC, XSLT on, detail page. |
| 13:14 | nengard | on the OPAC, XSLT on, detail page for me I see the author links at the top - but i only see them once - not twice .... |
| 13:14 | jcamins_a | Good morning. |
| 13:15 | nengard | sorry - got to run - will be back later |
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| 13:18 | owen | Should the import tool in the staff client work for authority records, or am I dreaming? |
| 13:19 | jcamins_a | It's a good dream. |
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| 13:25 | owen | Should the bulkmarcimport command line tool work without errors or am I dreaming about that too? :( |
| 13:26 | DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Column 'authtypecode' cannot be null | |
| 13:28 | jcamins | I never tried it, but I think it's supposed to. |
| 13:29 | owen | I thought I'd download an authority record from LOC to see if it was my hand-entered authority record that was causing my problem |
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| 13:32 | owen | False alarm, I was trying to import the wrong record |
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| 13:39 | owen | Okay, after successfully importing an author authority record at attaching it to a record I'm getting different results than my hand-edited one |
| 13:39 | No duplicate now, but the link points to the authority search | |
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| 13:55 | mib_btkt1 | Good afternoon. Does anyone know how difficult it is too add other marc tags to OPAC? e.g 856 tag or even custom tags? I was looking at the opac-detail.tmpl and an MARC21 xsl page but nothing! |
| 13:56 | owen | mib_btkt1: Modifying the xsl page is probably the best way to approach it, but it's not exactly simple |
| 13:56 | jcamins | mib_btkt1: if you want to change the OPAC display, it's very straightforward if you know XSLT. |
| 13:56 | owen | mib_btkt1: 856 should display already though |
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| 13:58 | mib_btkt1 | Sorry 856 was just an example! So editing the xsl file is the way to go? What about manipulating existing tags? E.g the Subject(s) is included subfields I want seperated out to other tags etc? |
| 13:59 | owen | mib_btkt1: The xsl file is the best way to go if you want to get down to handling specific MARC tags and subfields. The sky's the limit, as long as you can figure out the XML |
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| 14:00 | mib_btkt1 | Thanks, I just can't find the "Subject (s)" text anywhere in that document. On a side note, has anyone ever thought of a GUI for adding/removing tags? Something I might look at one day! |
| 14:01 | jcamins | mib_btkt1: look in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl. |
| 14:01 | owen | Line 384, to be specific |
| 14:01 | (for subject handling) | |
| 14:01 | jcamins | Oh, one other thing... you have to make sure that you have the XSLT display enabled. |
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| 14:03 | jcamins | The settings are OPACXSLTResultsDisplay and OPACXSLTDetailsDisplay. |
| 14:04 | mib_btkt1 | thanks, away I go!!! |
| 14:04 | jcamins | Good luck. |
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| 14:32 | mib_btkt1 | That worked out fine for me thanks! One more small thing, I just upgraded to 3.06 and noticed that the "Checked Out to" on the holdings table isn't there anymore, it used to show the current borrowers name |
| 14:32 | any ideas? | |
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| 14:56 | jcamins | Does Koha have an entry screen for non-mongraph 008s? |
| 14:56 | monograph, rather | |
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| 15:17 | * chris_n | read jcamins ' question as "non-monogrammed 008s" |
| 15:18 | * jcamins | read his question as "monocled 008s" only second after writing it |
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| 15:36 | briceSanc | hello |
| 15:37 | sekjal | morning, briceSanc |
| 15:37 | briceSanc | When you import biblios with bulkmarcimport.pl : How to manage duplicates ? Because there is no ISBN on biblios |
| 15:37 | hi sekjal ! | |
| 15:38 | sekjal, ready for the meeting at 3:00pm ? | |
| 15:38 | sekjal | briceSanc: I'm ready any time before then; I've got a call at 3pm. |
| 15:40 | briceSanc | ok |
| 15:40 | i will be availaible in 30min | |
| 15:40 | sekjal | briceSanc: sounds good |
| 15:42 | and in answer to your question, when you use bulkmarcimport.pl, it populates both the biblio and biblioitems tables (ISBN living in the biblioitems table) | |
| 15:42 | there is a utility in the newer versions of bulkmarcimport to do ISBN matching, but I haven't tried it myself yet | |
| 15:50 | briceSanc | yes it's the -i option |
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| 16:02 | schuster | owen about? I have a jquery question |
| 16:02 | owen | Yes |
| 16:02 | schuster | Or for anyone that might be able to help... I want to hide the published on (8/10/10) in the opac with the notes... suggestions? I'm going to have to learn jquery I guess, but not today. |
| 16:03 | owen | Do you have an example I can see? |
| 16:03 | schuster | We are going to highlight a database a month using a widget but my boss doesn't want the published on to display. |
| 16:03 | wizzyrea | i'm not sure what you're referring to |
| 16:03 | schuster | Give me a sec. |
| 16:06 | sekjal | briceSanc: brb |
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| 16:06 | schuster | ok yes catalog.pisd.edu |
| 16:06 | I'd also like to move the World Book Encyclopedia to above the description if possible. | |
| 16:07 | owen | Can you be specific schuster? |
| 16:07 | schuster | did you go to the catalog.pisd.edu? |
| 16:08 | I want to hide/remove - (published on 08/08/2010) | |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | $("#news").find("p:contains('published').hide() possibly |
| 16:08 | schuster | There is a table there - as well the widget is in the last column, but World Book Encyclopedia is in a column all by itself and then the "news/description" is in the middle column. |
| 16:09 | wizzyrea | don't forget the semicolon, like I did :P |
| 16:09 | owen | Oh, I thought you were talking about a biblio record |
| 16:09 | wizzyrea | so |
| 16:09 | $("irc://irc.katipo.co.nz/#news").find("p:contains('published').hide(); | |
| 16:09 | erm | |
| 16:09 | no | |
| 16:10 | $("#news").find("p:contains('published').hide(); | |
| 16:11 | (I haven't tested that) | |
| 16:12 | owen | $("#news").find("p:contains('published')").hide(); |
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| 16:12 | wizzyrea | I knew I was missing something there :P |
| 16:14 | owen | schuster: I think that "published" text was displaying above the table because of invalid markup somewhere (inside your news item?) |
| 16:22 | wizzyrea | Is there an "export these preferences as a template" deal anywhere? |
| 16:22 | (i know i know, i should just pull out the table. That works great if you actually have access to your DB.) | |
| 16:22 | owen | That's the only way I know of |
| 16:23 | wizzyrea | ok. |
| 16:23 | schuster | I would put that in the opacuserjs? or where? |
| 16:23 | wizzyrea | yep, opacuserjs |
| 16:25 | schuster | hmmm that removed my widget... but didn't touch the published. |
| 16:28 | OK hmmm I see it adjusted the location based on the HTML coding I had put in to "format" the text in the box. | |
| 16:32 | wizzyrea | schuster: that worked on mine. |
| 16:32 | not sure what's up with yours. | |
| 16:34 | schuster | OK thanks that gives me something to play with. I'm adjusting my code and based on my formating of the code it moves where the "published" goes... |
| 16:40 | sekjal | briceSanc: sorry for the delay; had to install some updates and reboot, lest I disappear in the middle of conversation |
| 16:43 | owen | If I mark a suggestion as "accepted," shouldn't an email message end up in my message_queue table for that patron? |
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| 17:02 | aarkerio | hi! Inside installer (step 1) I am getting: Modules in red must be installed before you may continue PDF::API2::Simple |
| 17:02 | but in fact PDF::API2::Simple is installed | |
| 17:04 | I installed : apt-get install libpdf-api2-perl | |
| 17:04 | wasabi | aarkerio: ignore it |
| 17:04 | ;) | |
| 17:04 | aarkerio | I can't installer only shows "recheck" button |
| 17:06 | mmm, I installed using cpan and all is OK, thx! | |
| 17:06 | wasabi | yeah, i use cpan for that tricky module too |
| 17:07 | cpan gives me 'PDF::API2 2.015' | |
| 17:07 | aarkerio | ubuntu package is old |
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| 17:59 | thd | cfouts: are you here in person? |
| 18:03 | cfouts: nevermind. I just solved my momentary problem. High heat impairs my thinking. | |
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| 18:41 | ricardo | Hi everyone! I'll have a quick dinner now and so, I may "arrive" at the IRC meeting a bit late. Feel free to start without me, though... I'll review the Log when I get back! :) |
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| 18:46 | cait | hi #koha |
| 18:46 | jwagner | Hi cait |
| 18:46 | Colin | Hi |
| 18:47 | cait | very slow internet connection :( my father moved the access point, hope it will not kick me out :) |
| 18:48 | t | |
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| 18:50 | aarkerio | hi! how can I create a CSS theme for OPAC? |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea | Owen's blog is a good place to start |
| 18:52 | http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?m=200902 | |
| 18:52 | he goes over most of the customization options at one point or another in his posts | |
| 18:53 | gmcharlt | good afternoon/morning/etc |
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| 18:54 | gmcharlt | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g,_11_August_2010 |
| 18:54 | 1. Update on Roadmap to 3.2. | |
| 18:54 | 2. Update on Roadmap to 3.0. | |
| 18:54 | 3. Update on Roadmap to 3.4. | |
| 18:54 | 4. Follow-up on actions from General IRC Meeting, 7 July 2010. | |
| 18:54 | 5. Agree times of next meetings. | |
| 18:54 | starting with intros | |
| 18:54 | * gmcharlt | = Galen Charlton, 3.2 RM |
| 18:55 | aarkerio | thx! |
| 18:55 | * cait | = Katrin Fischer, BSZ |
| 18:55 | * wizzyrea | Liz Rea - NEKLS |
| 18:55 | Colin | Colin Campbell - PTFS Europe |
| 18:56 | sekjal | Ian Walls, ByWater Solutions |
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| 18:56 | thd | Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York much much too hot City |
| 18:56 | jwagner | Jane Wagner, PTFS |
| 18:57 | slef | MJ Ray software.coop member |
| 18:57 | VickiTeal | Vicki Teal Lovely, South Central Library System, Madison, WI US |
| 18:58 | gmcharlt | 3.2 - in terms of blockers, 4310 is the main one with no pending resolution |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | but 4310 |
| 18:58 | thd | slef: where are you at the moment? |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | bug 4310 |
| 18:58 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4310 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, No Migration for budgets from 3.0 to 3.2 |
| 18:59 | slef | damn hot in miami too :-) |
| 18:59 | * jcamins | = Jared Camins-Esakov |
| 19:00 | thd | slef: I sent you an email |
| 19:00 | slef | I'm sat under a wifi mast in ocean beach park. Why? |
| 19:00 | not seen it :-( | |
| 19:00 | thd | slef: I missed your message about being in NYC |
| 19:00 | slef: maybe we could still meet if you are returning to the UK via NYC | |
| 19:01 | slef | nope. Maybe next time |
| 19:01 | thd | sorry |
| 19:01 | gmcharlt | other blockers have resolutions to apply or (like bug 5099) can be downgraded |
| 19:01 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5099 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Avanced Search page unavailable when OpacGroupResults is used |
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| 19:01 | slef | no worries |
| 19:01 | gmcharlt | bug 3536 has a patch that sekjal has been testing |
| 19:02 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3536 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Checked In item requiring transfer does not consistently trigger transfer prompt |
| 19:02 | wizzyrea | *cheer* |
| 19:03 | sekjal | the patch brings us closer to solving the bug, but I'm still finding a double-transfer issue when the new system preference is set a certain way |
| 19:03 | my comment on the bug report has more details | |
| 19:03 | gmcharlt | so RC1 by Monday; later than I hoped in July, but the acq bug will be worked around |
| 19:04 | slef | I think I'm back on koha end of next week so I'll try to test and death rc1 |
| 19:04 | gmcharlt | paul_p (if around) - any update on 3.0? |
| 19:04 | thd | gmcharlt: What method would be used to work around a migration problem? |
| 19:05 | slef | debug not death. Predictive text fail |
| 19:05 | thd | :) |
| 19:05 | gmcharlt | thd: retaining (and renaming) the previous tables so that the original data is around for manual cleanup if need be |
| 19:06 | CGI516 | Could anyone help me with creating new z39.50 servers? |
| 19:06 | thd | slef: what IRC client has predictive text? |
| 19:06 | slef | what are the bug numbers? Smartphones are good but I can't easily browse and type |
| 19:06 | thd | CGI516: after the meeting someone maybe even me will be happy to help. |
| 19:07 | gmcharlt | ok ... moving on to 3.4 |
| 19:07 | slef | phone not client |
| 19:07 | gmcharlt | slef: 4310 |
| 19:07 | chris: about? | |
| 19:07 | CGI516 | Sorry...didn't know there was a meeting going on. Thanks |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | he left his apologies on the wiki |
| 19:07 | briceSanc | is there a special room for General IRC Meeting ? |
| 19:07 | slef | gmcharlt I mean total nos blockers criticals and so on |
| 19:07 | gmcharlt | briceSanc: no, just regular #koha |
| 19:08 | briceSanc | k |
| 19:08 | thd | briceSanc: you are in the meeting |
| 19:08 | briceSanc: welcome | |
| 19:09 | briceSanc | welcome all, i'm Brice Sanchez (SYS-TECH company, Qu�bec, Canada). I'm on KOHA since 1 month and we work in order to install KOHA in 20 school before July 2011 |
| 19:10 | gmcharlt | slef: 3.2 crit = 12, maj = 18 |
| 19:10 | briceSanc | and i'm developper |
| 19:10 | slef | cool ta |
| 19:11 | gmcharlt | hi briceSanc , and welcome |
| 19:12 | aarkerio | I am from Mexico! Cancer Institute: http://docencia.incan.edu.mx:8888/ |
| 19:12 | gmcharlt | aarkerio: welcome! |
| 19:12 | contining on to license vote | |
| 19:13 | thd | Unfortunately, I have been absent for a few weeks and not attending to the license vote schedule. |
| 19:14 | I actually managed to break my computer. | |
| 19:14 | gmcharlt | ok - I think we'll need to reset the vote schedule, then |
| 19:14 | aarkerio | I vote GPLv3 |
| 19:14 | thd | slef has also been more recently absent, although, with non-broken hardware I assume. |
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| 19:15 | schuster | David Schuster - Plano ISD(school district 67 schools on Koha) |
| 19:16 | thd | I am still migrating my previous computing environment to a new computer with gparted constantly dying on me. |
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| 19:16 | gmcharlt | thd: ok, I'll send an email about the vote schedule at some point |
| 19:17 | ricardo_a is now known as ricardo | |
| 19:17 | ricardo | back |
| 19:17 | slef | oops network broke for a mo there. Reading log |
| 19:17 | ricardo | ricardo = Ricardo Dias Marques, author of installation guide of Koha in openSUSE and contributor/approver to Portuguese translation, Portugal |
| 19:17 | thd | My data was never a problem. I simply could not display it in a room less than 110 degrees F |
| 19:18 | VickiTeal | Please be sure to send to koha general list. Thanks. |
| 19:18 | gmcharlt | VickiTeal: of course |
| 19:19 | VickiTeal | Thanks. I'm not on developer's list. ;-) |
| 19:19 | slef | is the vote schedule on wiki somewhere? |
| 19:19 | gmcharlt | I think this is shaping to be a quick meeting, which does balance out the 2 hour meeting regarding the licensing |
| 19:19 | thd | VickiTeal: we agreed at the meeting about a relicensing vote that discussion was to take place on the general list. |
| 19:19 | gmcharlt | slef: not as far as I know, but that would be the home once it's finalized |
| 19:20 | VickiTeal | OK! |
| 19:20 | slef | ok. I looked and thought it was just me failing with that wiki again |
| 19:20 | * chris_n | = Chris Nighswonger, FBC |
| 19:21 | chris_n | sorry for being late |
| 19:21 | gmcharlt | chris_n: I think you showed up just in time for setting the next meeting time |
| 19:21 | :) | |
| 19:21 | thd | there was a call to summarise the many votes about the relicensing vote held during the relicensing meeting |
| 19:21 | chris_n | lol |
| 19:22 | gmcharlt | the first Wednesday in September is the 1st |
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| 19:22 | chris_n | the 1st is good by me |
| 19:22 | gmcharlt | ok - 19:00 UTC+0 on the 1 September 2010? |
| 19:22 | slef | |
| 19:22 | ricardo | gmcharlt: Fine by me |
| 19:22 | thd | +1 |
| 19:22 | chris_n | +1 |
| 19:23 | slef | ok afaik |
| 19:23 | Colin | ok |
| 19:23 | slef | +1 |
| 19:23 | VickiTeal | +1 |
| 19:23 | hdl | looks like I am too late. |
| 19:23 | jcamins | +1 |
| 19:23 | slef | there are really odd-looking birds here |
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| 19:24 | gmcharlt | slef: the flamingoes? |
| 19:24 | hdl: hi | |
| 19:24 | chris_n | pink? |
| 19:24 | hdl | hi |
| 19:24 | thd | hdl: you did not miss much but an issue cam up about migrating acquisitions |
| 19:24 | gmcharlt | hdl: still time for a 3.0 update |
| 19:24 | slef | scrawny little brown ones |
| 19:24 | thd | s/cam/came/ |
| 19:25 | hdl | I am packaging it. Will release it this week |
| 19:25 | gmcharlt | hdl++ |
| 19:25 | ricardo | hdl: Will release what, exactly? |
| 19:25 | hdl | 3.0.7 |
| 19:26 | ricardo | hdl: Cool! :) |
| 19:26 | slef | I'll try to post one to http://softwarecoop.posterous.com |
| 19:26 | hdl | actually : it is already on git. |
| 19:26 | jwagner | hdl, this is the latest stable version, correct? |
| 19:26 | hdl | But I will write releasenotes. |
| 19:26 | jwagner: yes | |
| 19:26 | should be at least. | |
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| 19:27 | hdl | I am working on budgets migrations. too |
| 19:28 | ricardo | Nice... Should I try to backport the small patch I contributed today for master branch regarding: |
| 19:28 | Bug 5116 | |
| 19:28 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5116 minor, P5, ---, ricmarques, NEW, Duplicate and missing entries in "apt-get-debian-lenny.sh" |
| 19:28 | ricardo | ? |
| 19:28 | thd | hdl: gmcharlt had suggested a workaround on migrating acquisitions to store old data in renamed tables. |
| 19:29 | gmcharlt is your suggestion for the absence of any acquisitions migration script or merely the imperfection of such a script. | |
| 19:29 | gmcharlt | the latter |
| 19:29 | but looking forward to hdl's work on the budget migration | |
| 19:29 | briceSanc | jwagner, I have received and read your mail, i just need time to answer |
| 19:30 | hdl | ricardo: send it to me. |
| 19:30 | I have little data to test aqorderbreakdown migration correctly, | |
| 19:31 | if any good soul is willing to send good test data, I will take it. | |
| 19:32 | ricardo | hdl: OK, I'll write a patch for 3.0.x and send it for the Koha 3.0.x branch to the "koha patches" mailing list and "Cc"ing you. Does that sound good? |
| 19:33 | hdl | yes |
| 19:33 | ricardo | hdl: Cool, thanks |
| 19:33 | gmcharlt: Not urgent but, when you have the time, could you give your feedback regarding: | |
| 19:33 | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ugust/034334.html | |
| 19:34 | jwagner | Is the meeting over? |
| 19:34 | ricardo | jwagner: Oops, sorry... You're right. I'll shut up now :) |
| 19:35 | hdl | will read logs. |
| 19:35 | jwagner | No, I didn't mean that -- just wasn't sure |
| 19:35 | hdl | back to vacation time |
| 19:35 | jwagner | I think we were finished, just checking |
| 19:36 | thd | CGI516: are you still here? |
| 19:36 | slef | http://softwarecoop.posterous.com/strange-bird |
| 19:37 | ricardo | jwagner: Yep, maybe we are finished... gmcharlt: Do you want to formally "close" the meeting, if that's the case? |
| 19:37 | slef | probably too dark |
| 19:37 | gmcharlt | yep, I think we're done |
| 19:37 | thanks, all | |
| 19:38 | ricardo | gmcharlt: Thank you |
| 19:38 | * thd | goes back to memory leaks in gparted |
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| 19:38 | ricardo | thd: Memory leaks in Gparted? What version are you using? |
| 19:38 | slef | ok see you next week. Or in irc.oftc.net #spi in 15 |
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| 19:41 | thd | ricardo: I am using the latest version of gparted which is packaged with parted magic. |
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| 19:44 | ricardo | thd: OK, so I'll assume it's the current gparted version (0.6.2). I don't have experience of "memory leaks" but I think I'm at least "one version behind". Could your hard drive be "dying" and, if that's the case, could it be causing problems to gparted (just guessing)? |
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| 19:45 | thd | ricardo: no this is happening on many computers including one with a new hard drive |
| 19:45 | also, I have been testing hard drives and RAM vigorously | |
| 19:46 | I have not lost any data when gparted has failed. | |
| 19:46 | I had to resort to backup in the past when parted failed 3 years ago. | |
| 19:48 | gmcharlt | ricardo: clone over http is now working again |
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| 19:49 | ricardo | gmcharlt: Cool :) Many thanks. Did you also set it up as a cronjob, or would that be a bad idea? |
| 19:49 | gmcharlt | update-server-info wasn't the problem - that gets run as a post-update hook |
| 19:49 | it was a change in the apache config that broke it; few enough users of clone-over-http that I don't thnk anybody had noticed | |
| 19:50 | thd | ricardo: I cannot be certain that some other part of parted magic than gparted is having memory leaks. However, memory leaks and other problems are obvious. |
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| 19:51 | ricardo | thd: You're booting Gparted from some kind of a Boot media, like a Boot CD, right? If you're not, try to do that. |
| 19:51 | thd | ricardo: I would not think of using gparted from the disk on which it is operating. |
| 19:52 | ricardo | thd: Yeah, I figured as much, but wanted to be sure :) |
| 19:52 | thd | ricardo: I use a boot media and the OS is running entirely in RAM. |
| 19:52 | ricardo | thd: right |
| 19:54 | thd | Rebooting cures all problems when waiting more than enough time for any write to have finished does not. |
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| 19:55 | ricardo | thd: Right... Oh well, I guess I can't help you, sorry. Try to see if the bug is posted to the "Bugs" forum of "Parted Magic" - http://partedmagic.com/forum.html |
| 19:55 | thd | ricardo: I am able to accomplish what I need to do but it is taking many days because I constantly have to restart the process. |
| 19:56 | ricardo | thd: Is anything available in the "error console"? I forget where the error console lives... Alt+F9 or ALT+11, maybe? |
| 19:56 | thd | ricardo: If I had the hardware to support some other type of volume management and trusted the integrity of data on such systems my problem would be simpler. |
| 19:56 | ricardo | s/ALT+11/ALT+F11 |
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| 19:57 | owen | I guess I didn't miss much meeting |
| 19:57 | thd | owen: very little communicated during the meeting. |
| 19:57 | ricardo | owen: Congratulations! You're right! You missed a pretty speedy meeting :) |
| 19:58 | * owen | isn't sure whether that's good or bad |
| 19:58 | thd | ricardo: I expect that everything would be in /var/log on the virtual file system. |
| 19:59 | ricardo | thd: That makes sense, although I'm not sure of that |
| 20:00 | thd | owen: I think that there has been somewhat less to report and discuss because of the time of year. |
| 20:01 | ricardo | thd: *nod* |
| 20:02 | ebegin | I remember that there was a section about the default authorized value on the wiki. I can not find it. Anybody remember where it is? |
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| 20:02 | owen | the default authorized value of what? |
| 20:03 | thd | I will try to look for the problem next time it occurs. I am almost finished after several days work reorganising partitions. |
| 20:03 | ebegin | of authorized value :) Those that are hardcoded |
| 20:04 | ricardo | thd: OK. I'm sorry that you had to put up with that |
| 20:04 | ebegin | Like LOST... 1 : Lost, 2: Long Overdue, 3: Lost and paid for, etc. |
| 20:05 | briceSanc | During the IRC meeting, the relicensing discuss was for the Wiki or for the Koha software ? |
| 20:05 | owen | briceSanc: For Koha |
| 20:06 | briceSanc | ok and what are the main change of the licence ? |
| 20:07 | thd | ricardo: I could use merely 2 or 3 partitions like most people but I want different mount options and other controls which only come from a much greater degree of partitioning. |
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| 20:08 | ricardo | thd: Sure, I meant that I'm sorry that you to put up with those problems of Parted Magic / gParted |
| 20:08 | thd | ricardo: just life with very complex systems |
| 20:08 | :) | |
| 20:09 | jwagner | ebegin, I think the default authorized values are an option during installation -- is that what you're asking? |
| 20:09 | thd | ebegin: you have referred to some value lists with no formal specification. |
| 20:10 | ricardo | ebegin: I believe the default value of an authorised list is defined / chosen on each of the (Cataloging) frameworks that use it |
| 20:10 | ebegin | jwagner, that's correct. But there was a list somewhere on the wiki (maybe it wasn't move on the new version) |
| 20:11 | thd | ebegin: Item status values are not formally specified which makes it impossible to design a feature which exploits the values in a normalised manner. |
| 20:11 | ebegin | I fell back on the sql data |
| 20:11 | ricardo | ebegin: Check the "Default value" field of the "Advanced constraints" section of a Cataloging framework that you use, for a field that uses / should use some "authorised values" list |
| 20:12 | thd | ebegin: Item status value meanings vary between libraries although there are some partial presumptions implied in the code. |
| 20:13 | ebegin: 0 and 1 have explicit meaning for item status. Values beyond that are John Conway's humorous data type errrm :) | |
| 20:15 | ebegin: there may be some common practise in Koha MARC 21 libraries for item status values but it differs from common practise for Koha UNIMARC libraries. | |
| 20:16 | ebegin | Another example of an hardcoded value is -1 for Ordered in the NOT_LOAN authorised value. |
| 20:16 | Anyway, thanks guys. I found what I was looking for :D | |
| 20:17 | briceSanc | owen, is there a web place where i could be informed about the relicensing of Koha? |
| 20:18 | thd | briceSanc: If you search for AGPL on the mailing list archives you should find the past discussion. |
| 20:18 | ricardo | ebegin: Where did you find it, then? |
| 20:18 | ebegin | in the sql data of the installer :D |
| 20:19 | thd | briceSanc: Future discussion in relation to ballot design, voting etc. has been agreed to be held on the general mailing list. |
| 20:21 | briceSanc: Expect more discussion on the mailing list in about a week. My hardware capacity to participate had been interrupted recently. | |
| 20:21 | briceSanc | ok thanks for your answer |
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| 20:22 | * thd | returns to moving partitions |
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| 20:24 | ricardo | ebegin: OK, thanks for the info |
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| 20:32 | richard | hi |
| 20:32 | * chris | wanders in |
| 20:39 | owen | Hi chris |
| 20:41 | chris | power all back i see |
| 20:41 | owen | Dunno, I went home :) |
| 20:41 | chris | :) |
| 20:44 | ricardo | Hi chris! Long time no see :) |
| 20:44 | chris | heya ricardo, hows things? |
| 20:44 | ricardo | Hello richard |
| 20:45 | richard | HI ALL |
| 20:45 | oops | |
| 20:45 | darn caps lock | |
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| 20:46 | ricardo | chris: Lots of work... Being kept busy at work with many things regarding Linux Server admin, besides Koha (so I can now only work with / study Koha sometimes) |
| 20:47 | chris | ahh, i hear that |
| 20:47 | ricardo | chris: Is "I hear that" an idiomatic expression for "I have the same problem" ? ;-) |
| 20:48 | chris | yeah, can also mean 'you have my sympathy' |
| 20:48 | ricardo | chris: Thanks! :) |
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| 20:50 | ricardo | chris: I was looking to "AuthoritiesMarc.pm" today... I believe there's a small bug there (and maybe - but just maybe - another one "hiding" that would not be so small). Let's see if I can make something out of this--- |
| 20:50 | chris | cool |
| 20:51 | ricardo | chris: And how's your life? |
| 20:51 | chris | stupidly busy, but good apart from that ;) |
| 20:51 | ricardo | chris: ahh, i hear that ;-) |
| 20:51 | * owen | like busy if it's the right kind |
| 20:52 | * ricardo | agrees with owen |
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| 20:55 | ricardo | Wasn't there some kind of message to the bot to have weather info... |
| 20:55 | !weather | |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence, ks |
| 20:55 | ricardo | !lisbon |
| 20:55 | munin | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 39.5�C (4:02 PM CDT on August 11, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM CDT Friday... |
| 20:55 | owen | @wunder 45701 |
| 20:55 | munin | owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 23.9�C (4:55 PM EDT on August 11, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1005.6 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:56 | ricardo | wizzyrea: Thanks! :) |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 20:56 | ricardo | @wunder lisbon |
| 20:56 | munin | ricardo: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 20:56 | ricardo | @wunder lisbon, portugal |
| 20:56 | munin | ricardo: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 27.0�C (9:30 PM WEST on August 11, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:56 | owen | wizzyrea: C'mon over, it's cooler here today. |
| 20:56 | ricardo | OK... Kansas wins (ouch!) |
| 20:56 | ebegin | @wunder montreal, canada |
| 20:56 | munin | ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 26.0�C (4:00 PM EDT on August 11, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:56 | ricardo | Althoug it's already 10 PM here in Lisbon |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | oh seriously, yea, I'm coming to your house, owen |
| 20:56 | chris | @wunder wellington,nz |
| 20:57 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (8:00 AM NZST on August 12, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
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| 20:57 | ricardo | chris: Chilly.... |
| 20:57 | chris | its winter :) |
| 20:57 | ricardo | I think we "spooked" wasabi |
| 20:57 | richard | it was 4 degrees yesterday mornign |
| 20:57 | ebegin | 10 C? That is not winter... :) winter is - 20 overhere :) |
| 20:57 | ricardo | richard: Where? |
| 20:58 | richard | in wellington nz. i'm about 30 minutes walk from chris |
| 20:58 | ricardo | richard: Ah... That must help to keep you in good shape ;-) |
| 21:00 | richard | um, i've only visited him once at his work. we work together on some things but often compete |
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| 21:02 | chris | coopetition as paul would say |
| 21:02 | ricardo | "richard" vs "chris": "FIGHT!"... this must be said with the "voice-off" from "Mortal Kombat" ;-) |
| 21:02 | chris | heh |
| 21:03 | richard | coopetition is a good description |
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| 21:08 | chris | im glad bernardo is fixing all the typos in the templates, thats neat |
| 21:10 | ricardo | chris: *nod* |
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| 21:48 | ricardo | Hi darling! I always wished to say that... ;-) |
| 21:51 | darling | hehe, I got in trouble at work for using my real name as my irc nick so changed it to that |
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| 21:52 | ricardo | darling: ...and then you chose another nick that can get you in all other sorts of trouble. Nice! ;-) |
| 21:55 | darling: I'm just joking, of course :) | |
| 21:56 | chris | he's on the phone :) |
| 21:56 | * chris | works about 10 metres away from darling |
| 21:58 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 21:58 | ricardo | chris: And "darling" 's nick never got you in trouble with your wife? "Hey 'darling', wait a minute... I have my wife on the phone!" ;-) |
| 21:58 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 32.1�C (5:05 PM CDT on August 11, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 27.0�C. Pressure: 28.86 in 977.2 hPa (Rising). |
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| 22:08 | chris | ricardo: not yet :) |
| 22:08 | heya cait | |
| 22:08 | cait | hi chris :) |
| 22:08 | reading logs | |
| 22:11 | chris | was a pretty quiet meeting (i wasnt there but read the logs too) |
| 22:13 | cait | was sitting in the garden with my father |
| 22:14 | so got a bit distracted :) | |
| 22:14 | jcamins_a | cait: I don't blame you. A garden sounds wonderful. |
| 22:14 | Especially if it's not horribly humid. | |
| 22:15 | cait | it is quite small, because the house is in the old part of the city, but its very green :) |
| 22:15 | and we had wine too | |
| 22:16 | * jcamins_a | is very jealous. There's very little green where he lives in New York. |
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| 22:21 | cait | Konstanz has a great countryside and the lake of course, but I have no garden or balcony, so I enjoy the garden here when visiting my family |
| 22:22 | jcamins_a | A countryside sounds nice too. |
| 22:25 | cait | :) |
| 22:25 | I think living in NY has its own advantages | |
| 22:25 | jcamins_a | Yes, but it helps if you like cities. ;) |
| 22:27 | cait | http://www.konstanz-tourismus.de/ tourism site of konstanz - pictures :) |
| 22:32 | ok, time to sleep :) bye all | |
| 22:32 | chris | night cait |
| 22:32 | jcamins_a | Good night. |
| 22:33 | cait | ah, before I forget: chris++ for your help on my patch(es) :) |
| 22:34 | chris | np |
| 22:35 | cait | learning a lot by fixing those bugs, hope it will help me with my bigger projects too :) |
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| 22:43 | ricardo | Running off as well... Take care, everyone! :) |
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| 23:44 | * owen-away | votes Konstanz for the next Koha conference |
| 23:45 | chris | :) |
| 23:45 | it probably is europes turn again | |
| 23:47 | owen-away | Or maybe Bodo, Norway? |
| 23:52 | chris | that would be sweet |
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