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| 05:12 | chris | jransom++ #great response to the negative comment |
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| 05:40 | cait1 | good morning äkoha |
| 05:41 | #koha | |
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| 07:27 | cait1 | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:27 | munin | cait1: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 24.2�C (9:27 AM CEST on July 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Steady). |
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| 08:00 | chris | hi cait |
| 08:01 | cait | hi chris |
| 08:13 | chris | we dont have a 'i forgot my password' thing in koha eh? |
| 08:13 | cait | no |
| 08:13 | but it would be a nice features | |
| 08:13 | feature | |
| 08:20 | chris | yeah, i saw the evergreen devs talking about it,ill put it on the list |
| 08:22 | cait | :) |
| 08:23 | chris | only will work for ppl with an email address, but thats lots of people these days |
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| 08:29 | pastebot | "chris" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "mod_perl circ" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/25 |
| 08:29 | chris | @later tell brendan http://paste.koha-community.org/25 |
| 08:29 | munin | chris: The operation succeeded. |
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| 13:52 | Genji | with zebra, there is no way to return just one field instead of a whole record? |
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| 16:07 | cait | hi koha |
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| 17:58 | chris_n | heya pianohack (er) |
| 17:58 | pianohack | Hi, chris_n |
| 17:58 | chris_n | question about the systempreference table in light of the new editor |
| 17:59 | are the systempreference.options and systempreference.explanation fields still used? | |
| 17:59 | or just variable, value, and type? | |
| 18:00 | * chris_n | is hacking up some local prefs code |
| 18:05 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:05 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 32.0�C (8:00 PM CEST on July 10, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:06 | cait | chris_n++ |
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| 18:18 | pastebot | "chris_n" at 71.50.127.34 pasted "system preference types" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26 |
| 18:18 | chris_n | chris, gmcharlt, whoever, are all of those types correct? |
| 18:18 | * chris_n | wonders about NULL |
| 18:19 | gmcharlt | yeah, there shouldn't be a null type |
| 18:19 | chris_n | and the blank as well |
| 18:19 | gmcharlt | also, Upload isn't supported at present |
| 18:19 | chris_n | should 'free' be capitolized? |
| 18:20 | capitalized even | |
| 18:21 | gmcharlt | doesn't matter, really, except for consistency |
| 19:19 | chris | chris_n++ |
| 19:20 | cait | hi chris |
| 19:20 | chris | hi cait, watching the game? |
| 19:21 | cait | uuh I forgot! |
| 19:21 | chris | kahu is eating his breakfast then its time to take him to play football |
| 19:21 | cait | remind him not to pick up the ball :) |
| 19:22 | chris | hehe |
| 19:22 | @wunder wellington nz | |
| 19:22 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 4.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on July 11, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:23 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:23 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 29.0�C (9:00 PM CEST on July 10, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:23 | chris | better wrap him up good, cold hands today |
| 19:23 | cait | it was very warm today, but it seems like we wll get some rain tonight :) |
| 19:26 | chris | rain in summer is good :) |
| 19:27 | cait | yes |
| 19:27 | we were swimming today, it was great | |
| 19:28 | but outside of the water it was hot | |
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| 19:31 | Steven | anybody there? |
| 19:31 | i m unable to run fines.pl under crontab | |
| 19:31 | chris | do you get an error message? |
| 19:31 | Steven | nope... |
| 19:32 | is shown installing | |
| 19:32 | chris | what else is in your crontab, and do they run? |
| 19:32 | Steven | but when the loan is overdue.....and when i check in tat time....overdue fines still remain zero |
| 19:33 | this is my step to edit the crontab | |
| 19:33 | 1. run terminal 2.type "crontab -e" | |
| 19:34 | key in "* * * * * usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl | |
| 19:34 | chris | um |
| 19:35 | Steven | then i check out a book with selected date......then i changed the system date to make it overdue.... |
| 19:35 | chris | its not desinged to be run continuously, just once a day |
| 19:36 | Steven | i m just wondering should i need to modify fines.pl b4 i run it in crontab? |
| 19:36 | chris | no |
| 19:36 | but you will need to set environment variables | |
| 19:36 | look at misc/cronjobs/crontab.example | |
| 19:36 | Steven | enlighten me pls |
| 19:37 | chris | and also, running it multiple times a day will result in bad behaviour, so once you get it running you certainly dont want to be doing that |
| 19:38 | Steven | i have used the example given "5 1 * * * usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl" |
| 19:38 | so which mean the fines.pl will run at 1:05am everyday, right? | |
| 19:38 | chris | yep |
| 19:39 | Steven | ok.....and wat the meaning of fines grace day in circulation rules? |
| 19:39 | chris | PERL5LIB and KOHA_CONF are the 2 variables you need to set |
| 19:40 | thats how many days an item is overdue before a fine is applied | |
| 19:40 | Steven | ops....i put 14 days.....it is the reason fines.pl not working? |
| 19:41 | chris | well, there could be lots, if you dont have those 2 variables set, it wont run |
| 19:42 | and yes if you have 14 it wont put a fine on for 2 weeks | |
| 19:42 | Steven | how to set the 2 variables actually? |
| 19:42 | chris | did you look at that crontab.example? |
| 19:43 | Steven | bcoz i dont really understand what is stated in crontab.example |
| 19:46 | pls guide me step by step | |
| 19:46 | chris | i have to take my son to football, im running out of time |
| 19:46 | cait | steven: normally you dont need to change the example |
| 19:46 | Steven | just a simple step will do |
| 19:47 | cait | you just have to get your configuration right and use the crontab as in the example |
| 19:47 | Steven | anybody just guide me on it |
| 19:47 | cait | have you set your conditions? |
| 19:47 | Steven | so wat is the files tat i need to pre-configure actually? |
| 19:47 | condition? | |
| 19:48 | i have set the circulation rules under system pref | |
| 19:49 | cait | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=x3206#AEN3449 |
| 19:49 | you dont need to pre-configure any files | |
| 19:49 | you need to have loan conditions with fines set up | |
| 19:50 | Steven | i have checked out a book with selected date.....then i change the system date to make it bcome overdue |
| 19:50 | cait | and run the conjob once a day |
| 19:50 | ok, what is your grace period? | |
| 19:50 | Steven | i put it 1 day |
| 19:50 | cait | ok |
| 19:50 | Steven | fines day is wat? |
| 19:50 | cait | fines interval? |
| 19:50 | dont use that if you use fines | |
| 19:50 | leave it blank | |
| 19:51 | Steven | interval is 1 |
| 19:51 | cait | its used by french libraries to suspend a user, its used instead of fines |
| 19:51 | ok | |
| 19:51 | no fine days set? | |
| 19:51 | and check your sys prefs - search for fines | |
| 19:52 | finesmode must be set to production to generate fines | |
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| 19:55 | Steven2 | i m steven |
| 19:55 | so is there anything set wrongly with my circulation rules? | |
| 19:55 | fines day leave it blank? | |
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| 19:58 | Steven2 | anybody? |
| 19:59 | cait | yes |
| 19:59 | leave fine day blank | |
| 20:00 | but more importatn: administration > sys prefs finemode | |
| 20:00 | set finemode to production | |
| 20:00 | with your settings of fine interval 1 and grace period 1 you should get a fine 2 days after the due date | |
| 20:00 | so if the due date is today, first fine is set on tuesday | |
| 20:01 | the calendar can also be important, check for holidays and your syspref settings how to deal with that | |
| 20:01 | a search for fine in the syspref editor will bring up the importatn settings | |
| 20:02 | Steven2 | so i have set "5 4 * * * usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl" |
| 20:03 | so the fines.pl will run at 4.05am everyday? | |
| 20:04 | cait | Im dont know about the right setting, never changed them |
| 20:04 | ok, I dont know how the time setting in cron jobs work | |
| 20:04 | I took them as they werw | |
| 20:04 | and for testing i start fines.pl manually | |
| 20:05 | Steven2 | manually? |
| 20:05 | u mean u click the file manually everyday? | |
| 20:05 | cait | no, for testing I start it manually, but in production we run it as a cron job |
| 20:06 | Steven2 | so the fines only will be calculated once u check in? |
| 20:06 | cait | no |
| 20:06 | koha generates fines by calendar, they are added to the account when the cron job is run | |
| 20:08 | Steven2 | just tested.....i m not sure the crontab run or not.... |
| 20:08 | but the book shown overdue....but fines show nothing.... | |
| 20:09 | cait | what is the due date? |
| 20:09 | Steven2 | due date is on 12/7.....i have change my system time to 15/7 |
| 20:10 | i checked the patron summary....item is overdue...but fines column show nothing | |
| 20:10 | cait | have you set holidays in your calendarß |
| 20:10 | Steven2 | nope....didnt set anything at all |
| 20:11 | cait | finemodeß |
| 20:11 | finemode? | |
| 20:12 | Steven2 | production |
| 20:12 | cait | ok, im out of ideas |
| 20:12 | that should work, perhaps something wrong with your crontab | |
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| 20:13 | Steven2 | what is the problem with my crontab? |
| 20:14 | first time when i set the crontab.....there got some sample there like "# f d..... command" i delete it oriti | |
| 20:15 | so i replaced with my setting "15 4 * * * usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl" | |
| 20:16 | m i wrongly set? | |
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| 20:17 | cait | sorry, battery low |
| 20:17 | Steven2 | m i set wrongly? |
| 20:17 | cait | ? |
| 20:17 | I would check my settings by running fines.pl manually | |
| 20:17 | If fines are set, you know everything is right in koha | |
| 20:18 | and you just have to get the cronjob right | |
| 20:18 | but its late here, time to sleep for me | |
| 20:18 | Steven2 | first time when i set the crontab...there got some sample like "# f d.... command " i deleted it oriti |
| 20:18 | cait | I dont know much about the crontrabs |
| 20:19 | cron jobs... ok, really tired. | |
| 20:20 | bye all | |
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| 20:20 | Steven2 | anybody there can help me |
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| 21:33 | magnus | @later tell Steven there's a missing slash in your cron command, try something like "15 4 * * * /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl" - /usr/share... not usr/share... |
| 21:33 | munin | magnus: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:34 | magnus | in case he comes back or reads the log... |
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| 22:57 | brendan | afternoon #koha |
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