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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 06:51 | Genji | Hiya |
| 06:52 | Koha 3.2 master ... new install... I can't start the web portion of the install: | |
| 06:52 | "MarkIssueReturned" is not exported | |
| 06:52 | wizzyrea_ left #koha | |
| 06:52 | Genji | by C4::Circulation |
| 06:52 | but it is. | |
| 06:53 | any ideas? | |
| 07:00 | nevermind.. .took out the gw in accounts, for circulation.pm | |
| 07:02 | and now the problem is, its in maintence mode.. how do i install? instead of going into the web installer.. its showing me a maintianence page. | |
| 08:32 | chris | if you are seeing the maintenance page its the opac, not the staff side |
| 08:33 | Genji | misconfigured namevirtualhost then? |
| 08:36 | chris | most likely |
| 08:47 | cait joined #koha | |
| 08:50 | cait | morning koha |
| 08:51 | chris | hi cait |
| 08:51 | cait | :) |
| 09:08 | chris | cait: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]phoenix-open-day/ |
| 09:10 | cait | your son likes football? :) |
| 09:12 | chris | until he is old enough to play rugby :) |
| 09:13 | cait | :) |
| 09:15 | and if he decides he likes football better? ;) | |
| 09:19 | chris | heh, he keeps tryin to pick it up, so i dont think there are any worries there |
| 09:20 | cait | :) |
| 10:28 | hdl left #koha | |
| 10:54 | Genji | keeps going to the opac virtualhost. |
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| 18:14 | cait | oh no |
| 18:14 | hebrew records in opac are broken ... again | |
| 18:17 | jcamins_a | At least Koha is running. |
| 18:17 | :) | |
| 18:19 | cait | hmpf |
| 18:19 | sorry jcamins | |
| 18:20 | just a bit frustrated, we need this feature for our library. | |
| 18:25 | jcamins_a | cait: No worries. Just trying to find the good news. |
| 18:26 | cait | I think one of the last changes broke it, its supposed to look like this: https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin[…]iblionumber=26729 |
| 18:26 | but now everything is on the left side and the hebrew does not break correctly this way | |
| 18:29 | jcamins_a | cait: You're running on latest HEAD? |
| 18:29 | cait | yes |
| 18:30 | my test installation, the library in production is on 3.1.61 | |
| 18:30 | fresh database and current head, loading more test records with hebrew now | |
| 18:32 | jcamins_a: perhaps I was too fast, records from our catalog work fine, the problem record is from loc. | |
| 18:32 | jcamins_a | Which LC record? |
| 18:34 | cait | this is the control number: 16010653 |
| 18:35 | jcamins_a | History of Greece? |
| 18:37 | cait | no |
| 18:37 | I searched in wikipedia for the hebrew word israel and used this as search term in z39.50 | |
| 18:38 | I think the problem is the language code. | |
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| 18:39 | jcamins_a | Is there any 066 field? |
| 18:40 | Why does our catalog go down *every single day*? (that was a rhetorical question... I _really_ don't want to know) | |
| 18:40 | cait | jcamins? |
| 18:40 | go down? | |
| 18:40 | jcamins_a | Crash. |
| 18:40 | cait | why do you think that? |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea_ | crash how? |
| 18:41 | jcamins_a | Oh, it's not a Koha issue. |
| 18:41 | cait | you are confusing me :) |
| 18:41 | jcamins_a | Sorry. |
| 18:41 | I was just trying to replicate what you did, and discovered that our catalog was down. | |
| 18:41 | cait | ah, not our catalog, your catalog |
| 18:41 | jcamins_a | Our catalog is down because the network card doesn't work. It has nothing to do with Koha. |
| 18:41 | Right. | |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea_ | Ah |
| 18:42 | cait | hi wizzyrea |
| 18:42 | jcamins_a | I'm betting your problem is a combination of the 066 field, the 041 field, and the leader. |
| 18:42 | cait | jcamins: I think I found the problem, its the way the script checks if its a rtl script |
| 18:42 | no, we check 880$6 | |
| 18:43 | jcamins_a | Oh, that would do it too. |
| 18:44 | I forgot that you can include character set in 880$6. | |
| 18:44 | cait | i think not many people use those fields |
| 18:44 | our union catalogs use ico codes, loc use marc21 codes | |
| 18:44 | and the xslt script uses substring... | |
| 18:45 | i think it does not work for both codes this way | |
| 18:45 | jcamins_a | And it's going to get even worse, because LC is supposedly going to stop using 880$6, and just make everything repeatable. |
| 18:45 | cait | ouch |
| 18:46 | where did you get that from? do you have a link or something? | |
| 18:46 | they need to put a language code somewhere, but it will make things for display more complicate :( | |
| 18:47 | jcamins_a | That's what one of LC's Arabic catalogers said at the Middle East Librarian's Association meeting last year. I'm sure it won't happen before RDA, though. |
| 18:47 | cait | no fun |
| 18:49 | and not good for koha | |
| 18:49 | how do you map a repeatable 245 field to biblioitems? | |
| 18:49 | jcamins_a | Eww. |
| 18:49 | I hadn't even thought of that. | |
| 18:50 | cait | we did |
| 18:50 | jcamins_a | I did think that eliminating the 880 was going to be a disaster, but I hadn't quite made the connection to biblioitems. |
| 18:50 | cait | when we tried to figure out the best way for our hebrew records |
| 18:52 | chris | wow they do some random stuf |
| 18:52 | f | |
| 18:53 | lets make marc even less useful :) | |
| 18:53 | jcamins_a | It hasn't happened yet. It could be like many of the good MARBI proposals (and no doubt some bad ones): completely forgotten. :) |
| 18:56 | cait | hi chris |
| 18:56 | hdl left #koha | |
| 18:56 | cait | ok, I think the problem is here: |
| 18:56 | <xsl:when test="substring($code6,string-length($code6)-1,2) ='/r'"> | |
| 19:00 | jcamins: thx for your support :) always helps me to talk to someone :) and lets hope they don't kill 880 | |
| 19:01 | jcamins_a | cait: You're welcome. |
| 19:02 | Argh. I still can't get the Koha installer to run under FreeBSD. | |
| 19:05 | cait | can offer to talk, but no nothing about FreeBSD :) |
| 19:05 | jcamins_a | Unfortunately, it would seem that makes two of us. :) |
| 19:08 | cait | and my xslt problem resists |
| 19:09 | jcamins_a | This is MARC21slim2OPACDetails.xsl? |
| 19:09 | cait | yes |
| 19:12 | ok, changing en files and looking at de-DE in opac does not work :) | |
| 19:16 | jcamins_a | Woohoo! The Makefile appears to be running! |
| 19:16 | So was that the problem? | |
| 19:18 | And the Makefile failed. | |
| 19:21 | But, it started. That's progress. | |
| 19:21 | And changing the hostname fixed it. | |
| 19:24 | cait | :) |
| 19:25 | jcamins_a | The general consensus is that you don't have to worry too much if there are errors in the make test stage, right? |
| 19:25 | cait | I think so |
| 19:36 | jcamins_a | Urk. Apache 1.3 doesn't like the RewriteCond. |
| 19:41 | larsw | apache 1.3 has reached "end of life" a couple of years ago; most importantly, this means no security fixes, so upgrading to 2.2 is highly recommended |
| 19:41 | jcamins_a | Yeah, but it's not my server. |
| 19:42 | Although perhaps the owner will install 2.2 if I beg enough. | |
| 19:50 | larsw: Any idea if I need mod_dbd? | |
| 19:53 | larsw | I have no idea, I don't know what it is |
| 19:54 | jcamins_a | Okay. I don't think I do. That was the only one I wasn't sure of, so I'll try it without. |
| 19:55 | chris | Another crisp morning hope today is gonna be like yesterday |
| 19:57 | larsw | hi, chris |
| 19:57 | chris | Hiya larsw, enjoy the weekend? |
| 19:57 | larsw | chris, yup |
| 19:58 | chris | Can't beat wellington on a good day |
| 20:01 | Empty bus too, school holidays | |
| 20:16 | jcamins_a | wizzyrea, larsw: Any opinion on the preferred naming convention on the wiki? "FreeBSD" or "Koha on FreeBSD"? |
| 20:17 | larsw | jcamins_a, I defer to wizzyrea |
| 20:19 | hdl joined #koha | |
| 20:23 | jcamins_a | Progress! |
| 20:23 | I have gotten the web server to start. | |
| 20:25 | richard joined #koha | |
| 20:25 | richard | hi |
| 20:25 | chris | hi richard |
| 20:25 | richard | hey chris |
| 20:26 | hdl | hi chris |
| 20:27 | chris | hi hdl |
| 20:29 | cait | xslt-- |
| 20:30 | jcamins_a | freebsd_user_handling-- |
| 20:35 | freebsd_user_handling++ # That was unfair of me | |
| 20:35 | apache_configuration-- | |
| 20:35 | cait | I just dont understand why it works for one string and not for the other |
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| 20:40 | jcamins_a | Yay! I was able to access the web installer. |
| 20:41 | Unfortunately, I appear to have forgotten my database password. | |
| 20:48 | Password remembered, and the web installer has come up. | |
| 20:51 | ::sigh:: ExtUtils::MakeMaker has been installed about thirty times now. | |
| 21:00 | * jcamins_a | Hands out chocolate to everyone on #koha to celebrate the successful installation of Koha on FreeBSD. |
| 21:00 | chris | :) |
| 21:00 | * jcamins_a | wonders if Scotch wouldn't be more appropriate. |
| 21:01 | jcamins_a | That was really rather painful. |
| 21:01 | cait | chocolate :) |
| 21:02 | jcamins++ | |
| 21:02 | chris | cait: http://notalwaysright.com/high[…]in-attrition/6031 |
| 21:02 | see don't be scared of travelling, you will do better than this :) | |
| 21:03 | jcamins_a | That's fantastic. |
| 21:03 | cait | chris: sure? :) |
| 21:03 | chris | :) |
| 21:04 | larsw | I've done worse... |
| 21:04 | jcamins_a | I can't believe what I just did. I don't have a clean FreeBSD installation to test my installation procedure on to make sure that it works. |
| 21:05 | larsw | there was that one time when I thought I was in the UK and was actually in the US |
| 21:05 | chris | heh |
| 21:05 | jcamins_a | I guess I'll put a disclaimer on the wiki saying "I think this works, but be prepared to troubleshoot installation problems." |
| 21:05 | chris | cait: see and larsw made it here if he can, you can :-) |
| 21:05 | larsw | cait, you should totally come to Australia |
| 21:06 | cait | australia? |
| 21:06 | larsw | :) |
| 21:06 | hdl left #koha | |
| 21:06 | cait | dont confuse me :) |
| 21:11 | jcamins_a | In case anyone ever stumbles across this log when trying to learn about installing Koha with Apache 1.3, it turns out that Koha needs Apache 2. |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea_ left #koha | |
| 21:20 | jcamins_a | Why would anyone want dontmerge to prevent automatically merging changes in authority records? |
| 21:24 | Is it possible to require patrons to log in to the OPAC? | |
| 21:24 | cait | no, you can always search |
| 21:24 | or not, not without changing something in the code | |
| 21:24 | jcamins_a | Okay. |
| 21:24 | I think someone did that... I hope they filed a bug report and provided their patch. | |
| 21:26 | chris | i know its a public branch, waiting to go into 3.4 |
| 21:26 | jcamins_a | Excellent. |
| 21:27 | Um. | |
| 21:27 | This is a really dumb question. | |
| 21:27 | How do I create patrons? | |
| 21:27 | I know I've done it before. | |
| 21:28 | Oh, there's the problem. | |
| 21:28 | I had jquery blocked. | |
| 21:29 | Never mind. :) | |
| 21:31 | cait | ok, will not solve this today, good night all |
| 21:31 | jcamins_a | Good night. |
| 21:31 | chris | night cait |
| 21:33 | cait left #koha | |
| 21:35 | jcamins_a | Ooh, looks like someone has been polishing the Z39.50 search interface. |
| 21:38 | How do you make the Zebra server start when the computer boots? | |
| 21:44 | larsw | jcamins_a, depends on the operating system; on systems using sysv init, see the init.d scripts (/etc/init.d on Debian, might be elsewhere on RPM systems) |
| 21:44 | jcamins_a | Okay, that was my question. Thanks. :) |
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| 21:57 | jcamins_a | Your 10-minute update on the installation of Koha on FreeBSD: I'm having Zebra problems, but otherwise progress is being made. |
| 21:58 | Aladino | hola |
| 21:59 | jcamins_a | Hello. |
| 21:59 | Aladino | some body speak spanish |
| 22:00 | jcamins_a | I do not, sorry. |
| 22:00 | Aladino | thank you |
| 22:01 | do you know some chat spanish? | |
| 22:03 | Aladino left #koha | |
| 22:08 | jcamins_a | Limiting by branch only works if you have items. |
| 22:08 | In hindsight, completely obvious. | |
| 22:09 | But, Koha works just fine under FreeBSD. :D | |
| 22:36 | magnus | hrmpf - does anyone have any experience with using the "Offline Circulation File (.koc) Uploader" for returning items? I keep getting "Unable to determine patron from item barcode"... |
| 22:37 | chris | not me |
| 22:39 | magnus | chris: i thought you knew everything... ;-) |
| 22:40 | chris | heh, nope ever tried the offline circ thing |
| 22:42 | magnus | i have a customer that needs to return 1000s of items this week, and they find it slow going (100+ items pr record). I thought the offline thingy might help them avoid (or postpone) the slowness, but now i can't get koha to process the files... |
| 22:46 | chris | they are all out? |
| 22:53 | magnus | the items? |
| 22:54 | chris | yep |
| 22:55 | it might be saying it cant find the patron, because the item isnt out | |
| 22:55 | magnus | ah, but they are out |
| 22:55 | i have tested returning the barcodes by hand, and that works just fine | |
| 22:56 | chris | yeah, by hand it doesnt care if they are out or not, so was just guessing |
| 22:58 | magnus | i have turned 10 by hand now, 8 were returned ok and two were "not out". the offline tool gives the same response for all of them |
| 22:58 | chris | right, im out of ideas then |
| 22:59 | magnus | thanks for trying! :-) |
| 23:14 | chris | ah ha! |
| 23:20 | magnus | que? |
| 23:21 | chris | in C4/Search.pm |
| 23:21 | there are lines referencing 'opac' | |
| 23:21 | finally figured out why the intranet was trying to show images from the opac | |
| 23:22 | magnus | nice! |
| 23:22 | chris | it will be a happy day when that module is burnt and rewritten |
| 23:22 | jcamins_a | It certainly will be! |
| 23:23 | magnus | enough midnight sun for me - g'night #koha! |
| 23:23 | magnus left #koha | |
| 23:28 | jcamins_a | Yay! Koha is now running without problem on my FreeBSD virtual machine. Time to go do something that doesn't involve LCDs for the rest of the day. |
| 23:28 | Good night, #koha | |
| 23:28 | chris | cya |
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