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| 01:18 | jcamins | Does anyone know if Koha require Apache 2? |
| 02:10 | chris | nope it doesnt |
| 02:10 | but you are pretty hard pressed to find a machine running 1.3 anymore .. and i cant think of any good reason to do so :) | |
| 02:11 | jcamins | The server space is free? |
| 02:16 | chris | thats almost good enough ;) |
| 02:16 | jcamins | Hm. Any idea what the "Test" Perl dependency is? FreeBSD has Test split up into a gazillion different packages. |
| 02:18 | chris | mostly Test::More |
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| 03:31 | Amit | heya chris, brendan |
| 03:31 | chris | hiya Amit |
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| 04:05 | Genji | hiya. whats a good guide on installation of koha on centos 5? |
| 04:11 | Amit | heya genji |
| 04:49 | Genji | anyone installed koha on centos here? or know a very good centos guide? |
| 04:49 | brendan | heya amit |
| 04:50 | Amit | heya genji i have already installed |
| 04:50 | Genji | you used a guide? which? |
| 04:51 | or you have a screen log? | |
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| 05:31 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 07:35 | chris | evening |
| 07:39 | paul | hi chris & al |
| 07:39 | kernel panic on our hosting server... not a fun start of the day :((( | |
| 07:39 | chris | yikes |
| 07:39 | yeah thats never fun | |
| 07:42 | came back ok after a reboot? | |
| 07:43 | paul | chris, yep, fortunately |
| 07:43 | chris | phew, lucky for small mercies |
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| 08:38 | chris | paul: i follow jonah lomu on twitter, he starts tweeting the same time you wake up (since he is in marseille too) its quite interesting :) |
| 08:41 | http://tweetphoto.com/29948817 <-- breakfast .. it looks good :) | |
| 08:47 | * paul | don't know what it is... |
| 08:47 | paul is now known as paul_p | |
| 08:47 | chris | looks like a blueberry pancake? |
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| 10:32 | custard | when does the log directory get created in the install process? |
| 10:37 | chris | when you do make install |
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| 11:02 | custard | and on a deb install does it make them owned by root? (so far I've only played around in ubuntu) |
| 11:04 | chris | installing from the debian packages? or installing from git, or installing from the tarball? |
| 11:05 | larsw | if I remember correctly, the koha-create script in the koha-common .deb package creates a log directory owned by root, but I could be wrong |
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| 11:10 | chris | morning nengard |
| 11:10 | nengard | morning all |
| 11:15 | custard | in this particular instance from the debs. |
| 11:15 | just noticing (being a bit slow here) that the zebra scripts didn't like it. | |
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| 11:27 | kf | hi #koha |
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| 11:28 | jwagner | Guten tag kf |
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| 11:29 | kf | Guten Tag jwagner :) |
| 11:30 | hi druthb :) | |
| 11:30 | druthb | hi, kf?! |
| 11:30 | kf | yes? |
| 11:30 | * druthb | has fumbly fingers today. |
| 11:30 | kf | ah :) |
| 11:33 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 11:33 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.3�C (1:42 PM CEST on June 30, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:34 | druthb | @wunder 20817 |
| 11:34 | munin | druthb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 17.8�C (7:43 AM EDT on June 30, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Rising). |
| 11:39 | gmcharlt | good morning |
| 11:39 | chris | hi kf, jwagner druthb and gmcharlt |
| 11:39 | druthb | g'mornin, gmcharlt and chris. :) |
| 11:39 | kf | hi chris |
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| 11:46 | jwagner | Morning, all |
| 11:50 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 11:50 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.6�C (1:58 PM CEST on June 30, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:07 | owen | Hi #koha |
| 12:07 | kf | hi owen |
| 12:08 | * owen | always forgets a VirtualBox upgrade will disconnect him... |
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| 12:10 | custard | If I spot a couple of bad links on the koha-community.org pages, should I attempt to register and fix it or leave it to someone that knows what they're doing? |
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| 12:11 | druthb | owens to spare! |
| 12:13 | owen__ | and casting increasingly long shadows |
| 12:13 | druthb | :) |
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| 12:13 | owen__ is now known as owen | |
| 12:14 | chris | custard: either is fine :) |
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| 12:15 | druthb | ...and then there was one. |
| 12:36 | owen | @wunder 45701 |
| 12:36 | munin | owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 17.8�C (8:35 AM EDT on June 30, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:36 | owen | Oh yeah. |
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| 13:01 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 13:02 | kf | hi jacamins |
| 13:03 | hi jcamins | |
| 13:16 | * chris | listens intently to see if its safe to go to sleep yet, poor atarau has got bad reflux tonight and isnt having a fun time, but its been 10 mins since i last heard a cry, ill give it 10 more then crash |
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| 13:28 | Genji | hiya! ive got a report of a strange problem... searching for more than one word, in koha 3.06, doesn't work.. no result. |
| 13:34 | hdl | Genji: mmm incredible |
| 13:34 | Genji | incredible? |
| 13:34 | oh.. this is arabic by the way... | |
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| 13:37 | chris | is it real 3.0.6, using zebra .. or is it your hacked upon and semi upgraded hybrid thingy? |
| 13:38 | Genji | real 3.0.6, using zebra, some config in zebra has been modified. |
| 13:39 | chris | must be something specific to the arabic set up, multiple words certainly works in english, and im sure in french too |
| 13:39 | kf | has the item display in staff changed? I see date last seen and publication details columns? |
| 13:40 | Genji: do you use ICU for indexing? | |
| 13:40 | Genji | yeah.. icuchain is used.. |
| 13:40 | cause some transliteration needs to be done.. | |
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| 13:44 | kf | we have hebrew and icu - I made a quick test, works fine in our 3.1.61 |
| 13:45 | owen: any ideas about my item display problem? showing date last seen and publication details (no content) and no public notes in staff. | |
| 13:46 | owen | kf: Non-xslt display? |
| 13:47 | kf | hm xslt is on, give me a minute |
| 13:47 | no change | |
| 13:48 | i think opac notes should be there and Im a bit confused abut the publication details | |
| 13:48 | owen | I'll bet you're looking at a record which is part of a series |
| 13:48 | kf | hm I think you are right |
| 13:48 | owen | a 440 tag? |
| 13:48 | kf | yes |
| 13:49 | owen | I submitted a bug fix for this problem in the OPAC. Koha thinks the record is a serial (which it is confusing with series) |
| 13:49 | kf | ah |
| 13:49 | so its a bug in staff? | |
| 13:49 | owen | Yes, definitely |
| 13:49 | kf | the item table is also a bit broken, some lines missing |
| 13:50 | I retested bug 3333 | |
| 13:50 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3333 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, item status for "not for loan" by item type / item is different |
| 13:50 | kf | I think the first bug I filed |
| 13:50 | there is a difference in status between opac and staff too... | |
| 13:51 | I will file a bug then, is there a bug for the opac part? | |
| 13:53 | owen | Bug 2375 |
| 13:53 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2375 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Serials holdings data does not display in opac-detail |
| 13:53 | kf | thx owen! owen++ |
| 13:54 | owen | I wasn't aware of Bug 3333. I'll see if I can look at that one too |
| 13:55 | Genji | something wrong with this lookup? |
| 13:55 | [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01\x0D)e\x01\xB0\x01\xFFf\x01\x1D\x01\x03e2\x01\xFFf\).* | |
| 13:55 | * owen | is trying to wrap up an additional fix for Bug 3459 |
| 13:55 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3459 normal, P5, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, topissues doesn't take care of ccode. |
| 13:56 | kf | owen: I m updating bug 3333 now with current screenshots and koha version number ;) |
| 13:56 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3333 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, item status for "not for loan" by item type / item is different |
| 14:01 | * owen | always thinks of this joke when we shout out bug numbers: http://jokesareawesome.com/jok[…]n_for_the_first_t... |
| 14:02 | druthb | lol |
| 14:06 | kf | lol |
| 14:15 | no note fields shown in item display - how severe is that? | |
| 14:18 | bug 4922 | |
| 14:18 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4922 major, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Wrong item display in staff (wrong columns, no notes) |
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| 14:53 | kf | nengard++ |
| 14:53 | for moving language sys prefs :) | |
| 14:54 | nengard | :) |
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| 14:54 | nengard | i like finding bugs I can fix :) |
| 14:55 | kf | :) |
| 14:56 | nengard: testing amazon features now - did you solve the problem? | |
| 14:57 | nengard | nope |
| 14:57 | kf | cant find a title with reviews right now, but I think its the data |
| 14:57 | nengard | and someone else found the same issue as me |
| 14:57 | i even tried owen's IDs and it works for him - so it's not an ID issue | |
| 14:57 | kf | yes, that was me ;) |
| 14:57 | nengard | no not you - someone else |
| 14:57 | kf | I work with the same IDs we use in our production environments |
| 14:57 | ah | |
| 14:57 | so we are three | |
| 14:57 | nengard | yes - at least |
| 14:57 | kf | I dont like errors like that |
| 15:00 | http://spedr.com/3jnvh - has reviews on amazon.com and .de and I see no reviews :( | |
| 15:03 | hdl | Is the ISBN cleaned before beeing sent ? |
| 15:03 | Do you have hyphens in you ISBN data ? | |
| 15:04 | kf | HAH |
| 15:04 | I found it | |
| 15:04 | sorry hdl :) | |
| 15:05 | I saw an error message in the error log, copied url to browser, got timeout message: corrected date on my virtual box and now the reviews show :) | |
| 15:06 | the only problem I see is that it shows <br /> tags in the review text | |
| 15:07 | and I have Title notes too :) | |
| 15:08 | nengard: is the date/time in your test installation correct? | |
| 15:09 | nengard | how so? on the server? |
| 15:09 | kf | yes |
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| 15:10 | kf | but I still dont see reviews in staff... |
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| 15:11 | nengard | kf i think my time is wrong on the server |
| 15:11 | you think that's causing the problem?? | |
| 15:12 | kf | it seems the request links to amazon have a date/time coded into them and when your date is too old it does not work |
| 15:12 | nengard | yeah my server says: Tue Jun 29 18:34:59 EDT 2010 |
| 15:12 | trying to figure out how to set it now | |
| 15:12 | kf | I reset the date with date -s "2010-06-30 17:21" |
| 15:15 | nengard | if that was it i'm going to be so upset!! :) |
| 15:15 | trying it now | |
| 15:16 | OH MY GOODNESS!!! That did it!!! | |
| 15:16 | kf do you want to write up a short tip for the newsletter?? | |
| 15:16 | owen | Jeepers, you kids solved the mystery! |
| 15:17 | kf | kids? :) |
| 15:17 | nengard | kf did it - not me |
| 15:17 | kf++ | |
| 15:17 | kf | yay :) |
| 15:17 | owen | You know, Scooby Doo kids ;) |
| 15:17 | nengard | never saw scooby doo |
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| 15:18 | jcamins | That explains why the Amazon stuff never worked for us. |
| 15:18 | owen | nengard: I'd say that's unpossible, but I never saw the Partridge Family somehow |
| 15:18 | nengard | hehe |
| 15:18 | kf | ok, covers: staff and opac ok, reviews: only opac, title notes: staff and opac ok, similar items: still searching for a working example |
| 15:18 | nengard | i'm adding an faw to the manual |
| 15:18 | kf | thx nengard |
| 15:19 | nengard | and kf should write for the newsletter |
| 15:19 | kf | I always got bad grades on my english essays... |
| 15:19 | nengard | and faw = faq |
| 15:19 | kf i'll edit it :) | |
| 15:19 | kf | ok, when do you need it? |
| 15:19 | pianohack | nengard: If you were using a _dvorak_ keyboard, you would be making different, more interesting typos |
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| 15:20 | owen | Now there's an argument for dvorak I hadn't heard before |
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| 15:22 | jcamins | Our assistant director is going to be thrilled. |
| 15:22 | pianohack | also, you can spend hours on the internet boring people to death with talk of error rates and efficiency |
| 15:22 | jcamins | (about the Amazon thing) |
| 15:22 | pianohack | remember, there's only one thing worse than dvorak |
| 15:22 | jcamins | kf++ |
| 15:22 | pianohack | people - colemak people |
| 15:24 | kf | @karma kf |
| 15:24 | munin | kf: Karma for "kf" has been increased 18 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 18. |
| 15:24 | kf | :) |
| 15:25 | cant find similar items... imported a lot of dan browns | |
| 15:25 | nicole: when is the death line for the newsletter? | |
| 15:25 | ah, nengard:... | |
| 15:25 | nengard | the 12th |
| 15:26 | in you own timezone ;) | |
| 15:26 | kf | ah great |
| 15:32 | ok, time to leave and walk home - bye all | |
| 15:32 | nengard | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]tion/faq/opac/#23 |
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| 15:39 | gmcharlt | @quote add <pianohack> nengard: If you were using a _dvorak_ keyboard, you would be making different, more interesting typos |
| 15:39 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #82 added. |
| 15:42 | owen | Hi gmcharlt |
| 15:42 | gmcharlt | hi owen |
| 15:43 | owen | gmcharlt: I have a git question for you. What does it mean to "sign off" on a patch? |
| 15:43 | gmcharlt | owen: signing off = giving your stamp of approval on the patch |
| 15:44 | e.g., dev A makes a patch, passes it on to dev B at the same organization, who tests and signs off on it | |
| 15:44 | and that could apply to any number of people in the chain, up to and including the RM | |
| 15:45 | some projects have a convention of having the original author add their personal sign-off as well | |
| 15:45 | "I made it, and it is good, or at least not-bad" | |
| 15:45 | owen | That seems redundant |
| 15:45 | gmcharlt | in some cases, it signfiies a bit more |
| 15:46 | e.g., http://linux.yyz.us/patch-format.html | |
| 15:46 | where the original author sign-off is also an assertion that the author has the right to submit the patch in the first place | |
| 15:46 | jwagner is now known as jwag_mtg | |
| 15:48 | gmcharlt | more history http://kerneltrap.org/node/3929 |
| 15:48 | owen | Do you see a benefit in using this process in Koha's case? Or would we need a more formal QA chain of command? |
| 15:49 | gmcharlt | well, git makes it easy to manage patch review |
| 15:49 | and since 3.4 will have a QA manager | |
| 15:49 | have a requirement that patches must have sign-offs by QA and RM is easy - that's what was done in 3.0 | |
| 15:50 | what would extend this process, and improve, would be (say) a requirement that a non-trivial patch have at least one non-author signoff before it is submitted | |
| 15:50 | then would go through QA and RM | |
| 15:51 | owen | So if I had a non-trivial patch I would ask someone else to take a look at it before it got sent? |
| 15:52 | gmcharlt | right |
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| 15:55 | hdl | when process is to use branches as development goes on and then merge the branch once it is stable, the sign-off is not handy since you have to reprocess each commit to sign off commits |
| 15:55 | But that is another workflow | |
| 15:57 | gmcharlt | right, although adding sign-offs can be automated in that case |
| 15:58 | another approach, which I've done at times, is to sign-off on the merge commit | |
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| 16:02 | * druthb | waves to schuster |
| 16:02 | schuster | Hey all... Trying to catch up again before I'm off for a week of vacation... Just dropping in. |
| 16:04 | gmcharlt | hi schuster |
| 16:05 | schuster | It was great to see many of you at ALA... Thanks for the ideas and suggestions at KUDOS |
| 16:06 | When Vicki gets back and settled in we will get the minutes posted from the meeting. I want to thank PTFS and ByWater again for hosting and providing refreshments. | |
| 16:07 | For those of you interested I did get a note back from John Brice that the paperwork has been "adjusted" and be resubmitted by the end of July for the 501c3 KUDOS application. | |
| 16:07 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 16:08 | owen | Thanks schuster, I'm looking forward to reading the minutes. |
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| 16:18 | cait | hi again :) |
| 16:20 | druthb | hi, cait! :) |
| 16:20 | cait | hi druthb :) |
| 16:20 | owen | Hi cait, I have a question about Bug 4922 |
| 16:20 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4922 major, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Wrong item display in staff (wrong columns, no notes) |
| 16:21 | cait | oh, sorry |
| 16:21 | for not being clear on bug 3333.... | |
| 16:21 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3333 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, item status for "not for loan" by item type / item is different |
| 16:21 | cait | whats your question? |
| 16:21 | owen | Do other kinds of records show your notes? |
| 16:21 | It looks to me like that is a separate issue | |
| 16:22 | cait | cant check this installation now, because its on my computer at work |
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| 16:22 | cait | from 440? |
| 16:22 | owen | Yes. I don't see notes displayed for non-440-tagged records either |
| 16:22 | cait | I think you are right |
| 16:22 | owen | (in the staff client) |
| 16:22 | cait | and it did not show up after I deleted 440 |
| 16:23 | opac is fine and the database entries seemed ok too | |
| 16:23 | owen | What I found is that detail.pl tells the template to display the "publication details" column if '$itemfields{enumchron} || $dat->{'serial'} ,' |
| 16:24 | cait | does this make sense? |
| 16:24 | what is shown in publication details, more than enumchron? | |
| 16:24 | owen | I'm going to suggest taking out the '|| $dat->{'serial'}' because actual serial records have their information displayed under a subscriptions tab |
| 16:25 | cait | this will still work when enumchron is filled? |
| 16:25 | owen | Yes |
| 16:25 | cait | because we have serials with items and enumchron :) |
| 16:25 | owen | With an actual serial record, a different column is shown in the holdings table: "Copy No." |
| 16:26 | cait | hm |
| 16:26 | owen | In my test, this column shows information like "Vol 5, No 13, Issue 1" |
| 16:26 | Would a serial record *also* have enumchron information attached to the item record? | |
| 16:26 | cait | ok, Im a bit confused now :) |
| 16:26 | yes | |
| 16:26 | ours have | |
| 16:26 | we put the information Vol 5, No 13, Issue 1" in enumchron | |
| 16:27 | and copynumber is for when you have the same item more than once | |
| 16:27 | owen | cait: Are you talking about true Koha-managed subscriptions? |
| 16:27 | cait | about items and serials |
| 16:27 | our library does not use serials yet, but we have items at the serial records (they can be checked out and have rfid tags) | |
| 16:28 | as far as I understood serials with items will fill enumchron with the information later | |
| 16:28 | not copy | |
| 16:29 | owen | My example Koha-managed subscription creates item records with the Volume/Number information in Copy Number |
| 16:29 | Should that be getting put in h - Serial Enumeration / chronology instead? | |
| 16:30 | gmcharlt do you know anything about this? | |
| 16:30 | cait | I think there was a patch somewhere |
| 16:31 | gmcharlt | owen: it should be going into enumchorn |
| 16:32 | owen | Okay then... new bug |
| 16:32 | cait | sometimes its like this.. finding new bugs everywhere :( |
| 16:33 | owen | Is information like "Vol 5, No 13, Issue 1" properly given the heading "Publication details" ? |
| 16:34 | cait | we use something like volume/issue |
| 16:35 | perhaps ask a native speaker :) | |
| 16:36 | owen | Right now enumchron for standard records is displaying under the heading "Publication details" and volume/issue information on serial records is displaying under the heading "Copy no." |
| 16:37 | I wonder if "Publication details" is the appropriate heading in both cases | |
| 16:37 | * gmcharlt | is a native speaker, but is afriad that his suggestions of "Enumeration/Chronology" is probably too much library-speak |
| 16:41 | cait | I can translate it to whatever I want ;) |
| 16:41 | owen: the copy thing sounds strange to me... | |
| 16:42 | owen | Which thing? |
| 16:42 | cait | the old manual states: Copy number for items that have the same location and call number. |
| 16:43 | I always thought its for cases where you have more than one item, but can only distinguish them by copynumber | |
| 16:43 | not not only for volumes | |
| 16:44 | owen | Right, you should be able to show copy number and volume numbers in separate columns |
| 16:44 | You could have more than one copy of the same Volume X | |
| 16:45 | cait | thats an example from our catalog, with enumchron: https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin[…]biblionumber=6358 |
| 16:45 | the column heading iss vol info - its shorter than publication details, but better? | |
| 16:46 | owen | I like "Vol. info" unless someone is going to complain that "volume" is incorrect for serials which use "number" |
| 16:49 | cait | use enumchron for serials and volume information and copy number for c. 1, c. 3...? |
| 16:49 | owen | That sounds right |
| 16:50 | * owen | notices the "Text for OPAC" field controlled by marc_subfields_structure.pl doesn't actually display in the OPAC. |
| 16:51 | owen | Oh wait, maybe I'm in the wrong framework |
| 16:53 | Okay, yeah, wrong framework. | |
| 16:54 | Bug 4923 | |
| 16:54 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4923 major, P5, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, Serial volume/number/issue information should be stored in Serial Enumeration / chronology |
| 16:58 | cait | owen: Im quite sure I saw a patch for that somewhere and another bug |
| 17:00 | cant find it now :( | |
| 17:02 | owen | The only reference I can find to enumeration is in a fixed bug: Bug 3380 |
| 17:02 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3380 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Serial enumeration / chronology should display in opac holds interface. |
| 17:04 | cait | I know that one :) |
| 17:05 | will search a bit, perhaps I can find it | |
| 17:26 | bug 3899 | |
| 17:26 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3899 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, Receive Serial Item Has Copy Info in Wrong Field |
| 17:28 | cait | owen: found it |
| 17:29 | owen | Hmm... Marked as fixed? |
| 17:30 | nengard | it was |
| 17:30 | maybe it has reappeared | |
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| 17:30 | cait | owen: will you look at item notes too or want me to file a separate bug for that? |
| 17:31 | owen | There really ought to be a separate bug for it |
| 17:31 | I'm not going to submit a patch for both issues at once | |
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| 17:35 | cait | ok, will write a new bug |
| 17:36 | you make me work hard today owen :) | |
| 17:36 | * owen | cracks the whip |
| 17:37 | owen | Thanks for your efforts cait, I appreciate it! |
| 17:37 | cait | :) |
| 17:42 | druthb | cait++ |
| 17:46 | cait | owen: assign bug to you? |
| 17:46 | owen | Sure, I'll give it a shot |
| 17:47 | cait | bug 4924 |
| 17:47 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4924 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Public/Internal notes missing in staff normal view |
| 17:51 | owen | It looks like biblio.serial gets set as 1 for any biblio with a series tag? |
| 17:52 | jcamins | That explains all the monographis in our database with biblio.serial=1. |
| 17:52 | owen | Hm... Koha to MARC mapping says biblio.serial is mapped to 942s, "Serial record flag" |
| 17:56 | I don't get it | |
| 18:09 | Oh great, and on a record which has an actual subscription attached to it biblio.serial is NULL | |
| 18:10 | * cait | sends owen some chocolate |
| 18:11 | cait | @quote random |
| 18:11 | munin | cait: Quote #15: "<|Lupin|>ricardo: you are like the Portuguese Hitchcock!!" (added by wizzyrea at 10:58 AM, July 10, 2009) |
| 18:12 | cait | munin: I was thinking about the one with the zillion ants |
| 18:12 | munin | cait: Error: "I" is not a valid command. |
| 18:12 | jcamins | owen: Do I remember correctly that you submitted a patch that fixed the XSLT stylesheets so that when you clicked on a subject, the link would search for the entire subject, and not just the main entry? |
| 18:13 | owen | I remember looking at it, but I don't think I came up with a solution |
| 18:14 | jwagner | collum came up with a partial solution for that -- I poked at it some, and so did he, but we didn't finish it. |
| 18:14 | jcamins | Ah. Thanks. Any idea how I might find that bug in bugzilla? |
| 18:15 | jwagner | Bug 4276 (had to go look for it) |
| 18:15 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, "Related subjects" search is OPAC doesn't work with chained subject terms |
| 18:15 | jcamins | Thank you. |
| 18:31 | owen | I'm thinking Liblime ought to change the theme of their public demo given the news that http://www.hclibrary.org/ just went live on Polaris |
| 18:32 | http://public.demo.kohalibrary.com/ | |
| 18:36 | cait | ooh |
| 18:37 | and they kept the design... | |
| 18:38 | wizzyrea | oh dear |
| 18:39 | nengard | such a sad story :( was so proud of HC for going all OSS |
| 18:40 | druthb | Amy still grieves over that a little, I think. |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | is it a total windows shop now? |
| 18:41 | nengard | total proprietary shop |
| 18:41 | not sure what kinds | |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | I know their public access machines were all OSS at one point |
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| 18:42 | wizzyrea | groovix |
| 18:42 | is what they were using | |
| 18:43 | nengard | yup |
| 18:44 | i remember | |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | did they give that up? |
| 18:44 | nengard | think so |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | ew |
| 18:44 | nengard | that was my impression |
| 18:44 | new director | |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | we had amy at our tech day a couple of years ago talking about their OSS setup |
| 18:46 | I think we're thinking of doing something similar with Mint, actually. | |
| 18:48 | ooh, there's deepfreeze for linux now | |
| 19:01 | jwagner | I'm trying to catch up on some of the very old things on my list (I can actually see portions of my desktop now!). Working on Bug 3782 -- I tried changing the z39.50 setup for NYU as jcamins had it in the bug report, but when I send a search, it produces an error: |
| 19:01 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3782 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, delivered z39.50 targets wrong for NY Public Library and NY University Library |
| 19:01 | jwagner | Wide character in null operation at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/Charset/Table.pm line 96. |
| 19:01 | Any idea what that one is about? | |
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| 19:05 | jcamins | That's strange. I'll try searching NYU, just to make sure that it hasn't broken recently or something. |
| 19:11 | jwagner | I've never seen that kind of Perl error with a z39.50, and others are working OK. |
| 19:12 | nengard left #koha | |
| 19:12 | jwagner | While I'm at it, would there be any objection if I removed Smithsonian from the delivered set of z39.50 targets? It seems to be of limited use as a resource, and I spent quite a long time working with them on search problems. With their server config, only raw (keyword) and author searches will work |
| 19:13 | Everything else fails because it wants specific use attributes which Koha can't send | |
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| 19:15 | gmcharlt | jwagner: no objection from me |
| 19:17 | jwagner | I think I'll do that as a separate bug entry, just to avoid muddying the waters on the original problem. |
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| 19:18 | owen | Is it just me or does "misc/sax_parser_print.pl" always say "looks bad" during a new Koha install? |
| 19:20 | chris | what version owen |
| 19:21 | owen | Sorry--what version of what? |
| 19:21 | chris | koha |
| 19:21 | head? | |
| 19:21 | * owen | is trying an install of 3.0.x |
| 19:21 | chris | and yeah it will |
| 19:22 | theres i a patch out there for it, that has been reformatted a few times, to tell koha to explicitly use the right sax parser, rather than making ppl edit the parserdetails.ini file | |
| 19:23 | owen | I seem to recall something about moving the contents of parserdetails.ini around? |
| 19:25 | chris | yeah thats it |
| 19:26 | jwagner | jcamins, I have to head out in a few minutes -- I updated the bug report with the error message so as not to lose it. |
| 19:32 | cait | tired, bye all |
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| 19:39 | owen | When trying "force intsall DVD::mysql" I get errors about "Can't exec "mysql_config"" |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | do you mean DBD::mysql? |
| 19:43 | chris | hmm why not install the debian package? |
| 19:43 | sudo apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl | |
| 19:43 | ok bus time | |
| 19:43 | jwagner left #koha | |
| 19:43 | * owen | is following the instructions in the INSTALL.ubuntu file |
| 19:44 | owen | ...since that's what a new Koha user would do |
| 19:46 | So "force install DBD::mysql" installs the same thing as "sudo apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl" ? | |
| 19:47 | If so, the instructions are incorrect | |
| 19:49 | Warning: prerequisite HTTP::OAI 3.2 not found. | |
| 19:49 | Warning: prerequisite XML::SAX::Writer 0.44 not found. | |
| 19:56 | chris | Yes |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | we should probably update the instructions to point to the debian/ubuntu packages |
| 19:57 | chris | Patching the file would be good too |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | b/c most people would leap straight to cpan |
| 19:57 | chris | Yeah cpan should be las resort |
| 19:57 | T | |
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| 19:59 | chris | Those ones are debian squeeze not sure about ubuntu |
| 19:59 | Gah can't type on phone today | |
| 20:00 | owen | ubuntu.packages already lists libdbd-mysql-perl, so it that's all that is required, the whole section on using cpan to install DBD::mysql could be removed |
| 20:04 | chris | Yes |
| 20:05 | * owen | had better not get into configuring zebra in the last 2 minutes of his work day |
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| 20:23 | richard | hi |
| 20:29 | chris | back |
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| 20:31 | slef | hi all |
| 20:31 | gmcharlt | hi slef |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | oh hi slef |
| 20:31 | chris | hi slef |
| 20:31 | george oates says she is a definite maybe for speaker ... you are a definite definite eh slef? | |
| 20:32 | slef | I will be in a few minutes. |
| 20:32 | Just arranging flights. | |
| 20:32 | Which brings me to something I'm sure I asked before - which days is the hackfest? | |
| 20:32 | chris | sweet :) |
| 20:33 | monday tuesday wednesday (25, 26, 27) are conference proper | |
| 20:33 | slef | that much I got |
| 20:33 | chris | 28th is morning off, afternoon trip to levin for mayoral reception and dinner at a marae |
| 20:34 | plus visiting HLT of course | |
| 20:34 | friday, sat, sun, mon | |
| 20:34 | are developer conference | |
| 20:34 | slef | 4 days! |
| 20:35 | chris | thats the plan, we'll try to cover all the important stuff the first 2 |
| 20:35 | then those that want to can head off | |
| 20:35 | slef | I'm being persuaded to visit the south island... ok, sounds good |
| 20:35 | bbl after booked | |
| 20:35 | * slef | starts arguing with airlines |
| 20:35 | chris | yeah south island is pretty |
| 20:36 | slef | oh... and someone mentioned to me that NZ is a small country... not compared to England, it's not. It's about twice the size. |
| 20:37 | paul_p left #koha | |
| 20:42 | chris | yeah |
| 20:43 | if you squish it up, its the size of colorado | |
| 20:43 | but with 4 million ppl in it | |
| 20:49 | slef: are you doing the road trip? | |
| 21:12 | slef | chris: yes, deposit sent |
| 21:12 | chris | awesome |
| 21:12 | what day does that get you into wellington? | |
| 21:12 | slef | I've mislaid my credit card :-/ |
| 21:12 | Sunday isn't it? Look on the website, as my notes are downstairs | |
| 21:13 | chris | righto |
| 21:13 | slef | found my flexible friend... time to stress-test it |
| 21:13 | bbl | |
| 21:15 | chris | slef: http://www.mcfr.org.nz/default.asp?PageID=9593 |
| 21:15 | or | |
| 21:15 | http://www.tdwv.getshopped.com/ | |
| 21:15 | both very close to wellington :) | |
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| 23:04 | slef | Heh. Thanks. I think I'll take it a bit more leisurely while there. |
| 23:05 | chris | :) |
| 23:06 | slef | hrm, no eticket for my flight yet. Will email details in the morning if it's arrived. |
| 23:06 | (8-9 hours from now) | |
| 23:06 | chris | cool |
| 23:06 | sleep well | |
| 23:07 | slef | byeee |
| 23:25 | rich-away is now known as richard | |
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| 23:41 | Genji | hiya! |
| 23:41 | whats the best centos install guide? |
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