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00:05 | jo | is mib_ewn6e Brendan? |
00:05 | brendan | nope |
00:06 | jo | not you Brendan-who-I-know but another Brendan I am meeting in here soonish :) |
00:06 | Brendan: are you coming down to koha con? | |
00:07 | brendan | I'm not going to be making.. |
00:07 | My wife is pregnant and I'm going to use my vacation for that ;) | |
00:08 | jo | oh congratulations :) |
00:14 | brendan | thanks |
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00:42 | chris | yeah congrats brendan :) |
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00:58 | Genji | hiya all! |
01:06 | wizzyrea_ | omg brendan |
01:06 | a baby how exciting! | |
01:06 | brendan | :) |
01:06 | wizzyrea_ | comgrats man |
01:06 | congrats, even | |
01:07 | brendan | thanks so much - I'm very excited |
01:08 | wizzyrea_ | next time I see you we shall bounce and squee ;) |
01:08 | brendan | heh |
01:09 | wizzyrea_ | oh only girls do that |
01:09 | sorry | |
01:09 | I shall give you a manly whack on the back | |
01:15 | brendan | excellent I'll take the manly whack |
01:17 | * chris_n | adds his congrats to brendan |
01:18 | brendan | heya chris_n |
01:24 | * chris_n | painstakingly sorts out a botched koha-conf.xml :-P |
02:02 | chris_n | and wins |
02:02 | http://imagebin.ca/view/OlJyUDA.html | |
02:02 | for all of those doubters among us ;-) | |
02:05 | robin | Goodness, that's running on XP. That sounds like an un-fun exercise. |
02:05 | chris | heh |
02:07 | chris_n | yup, its a sort of sadistic attraction I can't seem to shake |
02:08 | wizzyrea_ | chris_n: that *is* sadistic |
02:11 | Genji | ive done it before.. it was koha 2.x though. |
02:11 | chris_n | in this case it is self-inflicted pain soley for the purpose of saying, "I can do it." |
02:11 | Genji: this is running over strawberry not activestate | |
02:12 | Genji | hmm? whats strawberry? |
02:12 | chris_n | the open source port of perl to Win32 |
02:12 | http://strawberryperl.com/ | |
02:12 | Genji | and how is it different to activestate? |
02:15 | chris_n | the "enterprise" edition is free |
02:18 | alohalog | chris_n: i did the same thing with koha3 on my macbook |
02:19 | took me *ages* to get going.... | |
02:19 | wasabi | oops, wrong window ;) |
02:19 | chris_n | all koha's perl deps are available via cpan with strawberry |
02:20 | and most coding changes to the installer are already in the 3.1.x codebase | |
02:20 | wasabi | most of the tricky stuff for me was around osx xml libs |
02:20 | chris_n | so at present the install is very much like a *nix install |
02:20 | wasabi | and i was afraid i might bork my work-lappy |
02:21 | chris_n | just a minor adjustment or two to get the zebra related perl modules to build |
02:21 | wasabi | very well done |
02:22 | now find someone else to take the win32-koha port over | |
02:22 | ... and run away!!!! | |
02:23 | chris_n | hehe |
02:23 | wasabi | im working on a silverlight offline circ-module |
02:24 | not... ;) | |
02:24 | sliverlight/adobe-air/flash | |
02:24 | chris_n | ok, enough fun (not) for the evening... time to sleep |
02:26 | wasabi | haaay... a koha-circ iphone.app! |
02:27 | ok, i sssssh now... nite chris | |
02:27 | chris_n | lol, g'night |
02:28 | * wasabi | : pats chris_n on the back |
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03:43 | Amit | heya chris |
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04:10 | brendan | heya Amit |
04:10 | Amit | heya brendan |
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05:31 | cait | good morning koha |
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06:55 | Ropuch | Good morning #koha |
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07:00 | kf | good morning #koha |
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07:01 | Ropuch | Hello kf |
07:02 | kf | hi Ropuch |
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07:06 | Irinie | Good morning, I sucess to import record from excel sheet to marc using marcedit. are there anway to import the items for this records also?? |
07:06 | kf | Irinie: marc21 or unimarc? |
07:07 | Irinie | marc 21 |
07:07 | kf | so repeated 952 fields is the answer |
07:07 | give me a minute, I think there is some documentation in the manual | |
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07:09 | Irinie | ok thanks |
07:09 | kf | Irinie: what you will need is subfields a, b (home and holding branch, can be teh same), barcode and itemtype |
07:10 | Irinie | what I will need specially is the call number |
07:11 | kf | there is a field for that |
07:11 | I found the documentation page, but the table is broken: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]-manual/?ch=a9836 | |
07:11 | you can look at your bibliographic framework and field 952 | |
07:12 | or take a look at the subfields when you add an item manually, its not too difficult | |
07:12 | the marc record needs 1 952 field for every item | |
07:12 | Irinie | ok it is 952$o |
07:12 | kf | just make sure you set a and b |
07:13 | Irinie | ok |
07:13 | many thanks | |
07:14 | kf | no problem |
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07:39 | magnus | @wunder bodo, norway |
07:39 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0�C (9:20 AM CEST on June 21, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
07:40 | chris | hi magnus |
07:40 | magnus | howdy chris |
07:40 | hdl | hi all |
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07:46 | chris | magnus: added some books to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/NZ_Pop_Culture |
07:47 | hi hdl | |
07:47 | magnus | cool! thanks chris |
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08:45 | kf | hi hdl and chris |
08:48 | hi magnus | |
08:48 | @wunder Konstanz | |
08:48 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.4�C (10:54 AM CEST on June 21, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Rising). |
08:48 | magnus | hi kf |
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10:25 | gmcharlt_ | good morning |
10:26 | chris | heya gmcharlt_ |
10:31 | kf | hi gmcharlt |
10:33 | Ropuch | Hello chris, gmcharlt_ |
10:55 | chris | hi Ropuch |
10:55 | hows poland? | |
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11:03 | Amit | @weather New Delhi |
11:03 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 44.0�C (4:00 PM IST on June 21, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Falling). |
11:03 | Amit | @weather Bangalore |
11:03 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 29.0�C (2:30 PM IST on June 21, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. |
11:03 | Amit | @weather Dehradun |
11:03 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 31.0�C (2:30 PM IST on June 21, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.46 in 998 hPa. |
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11:10 | Oak | @weather Islamabad |
11:10 | munin | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 43.0�C (4:00 PM PKT on June 21, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
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11:40 | jdavidb | mornin'! |
11:40 | chris | hi jdavidb |
11:40 | jdavidb | :) howdy, chris. |
11:41 | collum | good morning chris and jdavidb |
11:41 | jwagner | Morning all.... |
11:42 | gmcharlt_ | hi jdavidb, jwagner, collum |
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11:50 | kf | hi jdavidb |
11:51 | hi jwagner | |
11:51 | jdavidb | :D hi, kf |
11:51 | * kf | is a bit slow toda |
11:51 | kf | hi collum |
11:51 | jdavidb | It's Monday, definitely. |
11:51 | kf | yes, definitel |
11:51 | y | |
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12:01 | kf | hi nengard |
12:12 | collum | hi kf and gmcharlt |
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12:33 | owen | Hi #koha |
12:38 | kf | hi owen |
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12:42 | jwagner | Welcome back, owen. Did you bring back Mickey Mouse ears for everyone? |
12:42 | owen | o_o o_o o_o o_o o_o |
12:42 | jwagner | :-) |
12:43 | owen | Hm, my chat client turned them into big eyeballs, but those were ascii ears for you. |
12:43 | gmcharlt_ | eew - mouse eyeballs! |
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12:44 | jwagner | It sure was quiet around here last week, with everyone gone.... |
12:45 | * owen | couldn't find his keys when it came time to come back to work... Anyone seen them? |
12:50 | chris_n | lol |
13:01 | jdavidb | 0_0 |
13:11 | nengard | ack vacations just mean more work in the long run |
13:11 | so much to catch up | |
13:11 | and i leave again on thurs!!! | |
13:11 | okay - time to log off and do a webinar - be back after | |
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13:18 | owen | Hm... A Perl conference in my neck of the woods this week: http://yapc2010.com/yn2010/ |
13:18 | I'd rush out if they had a track for newbies | |
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13:29 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
13:29 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
13:41 | kf | hi jcamins |
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14:05 | jdavidb | @quote random |
14:05 | munin | jdavidb: Quote #21: "<owen> I think we need more quotes!" (added by jdavidb at 12:18 PM, August 06, 2009) |
14:11 | jdavidb | @roulette |
14:11 | munin | jdavidb: *click* |
14:12 | jdavidb | @roulette |
14:12 | munin | jdavidb: *click* |
14:12 | jdavidb | @roulette |
14:12 | munin | jdavidb: *click* |
14:12 | jdavidb | woo hoo! the hoodoo is broken. Munin apparently no longer has it in for me. |
14:17 | collum | famous last words |
14:17 | jcamins | Want to try again, jdavidb, just to make sure... ? |
14:20 | owen | jdavidb or jwagner : Don't know if you know anything about it, but I'm curious what is happening with LibLime's ‡biblios.net. Will it continue? |
14:20 | jdavidb | @roulette |
14:20 | jdavidb was kicked by munin: BANG! | |
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14:20 | * munin | reloads and spins the chambers. |
14:20 | * jdavidb | falls over laughing. |
14:21 | jcamins | Brilliant! Now, was that an answer to owen? |
14:21 | jdavidb | I'm having a sign made for my office door: "The Mushroom Patch." The owen, clever fellow that he is, will realize that as an answer to his question. |
14:22 | * owen | gets it! jdavidb is high. |
14:22 | jdavidb | I should be so lucky. |
14:22 | owen | :D |
14:37 | * owen | wanders into Drupal-land |
14:41 | * jwagner | sends a search party after owen |
14:42 | * magnus | saunters into dinner- and afternoonland |
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15:08 | jwagner | owen, online? |
15:09 | owen | Yes |
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15:09 | jwagner | I know there's the option of using an alternate opac-XXXX file -- is there any way to use alternatives for the other css files, like hierarchy, print, etc.? |
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15:10 | owen | Not that I know of jwagner |
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15:15 | jwagner | OK, thanks owen |
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16:08 | kf | bye all |
16:08 | chris_n | wizzyrea: for the record... sadistic = anything M$ |
16:08 | by kf | |
16:08 | bye even | |
16:09 | kf | bye chris_n :) |
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16:10 | wizzyrea | haha |
16:10 | you don't have to tell me | |
16:10 | the other day I was at a meeting | |
16:10 | we were introducing ourselves, and we had to say the one thing we love about technology | |
16:10 | and I said "I'll work on anything but microsoft" | |
16:11 | "and what I love about technology is that I have the freedom to do that" | |
16:11 | I think the only microsoft thing I use with any kind of regularity is MSN messenger | |
16:11 | and only because I have to | |
16:30 | * LBA | waves hello and bye bye - was just checking in |
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16:48 | owen | nengard: I don't understand your comment on Bug 4868 |
16:48 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4868 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Improve controls for cloning and deleting MARC subfields |
16:49 | nengard | next to repeatable fields there is a + or - ... shouldn't they be those icons as well |
16:50 | gmcharlt_ | yep, having them be the same icons (or similar, maybe different colors or somethign to distinguish between fields and subfields) woudl be more consistent |
16:51 | * owen | is happy to work on that |
16:51 | nengard | sorry i wasn't clearer |
16:51 | trying to do 1 million things at once | |
16:52 | manual is updated with the latest commits | |
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16:54 | * chris_n | wants to know if nengard figures out how to do 1 million things at once... and if she will release the source code or not |
16:55 | collum | Now it's 1 million and 1 |
16:56 | jdavidb | @quote add *chris_n wants to know if nengard figures out how to do 1 million things at once... and if she will release the source code or not |
16:56 | munin | jdavidb: The operation succeeded. Quote #77 added. |
16:56 | nengard | chris_n sorry that code is locked up in my brain :) hehe |
16:57 | no one else would ever be able to understand anything that comes out of there | |
16:57 | chris_n | lol :) |
16:57 | nengard | but that is like the top question I get when I speak - "how do you keep up with everything?" I honestly have no answers except that I don't sit still well |
16:57 | I'm always doing smething | |
16:58 | something | |
16:58 | owen is now known as owen-away | |
17:00 | jdavidb | @quote random |
17:00 | munin | jdavidb: Quote #36: "<pianohacker> first, burn the perl book" (added by jdavidb at 03:12 PM, September 25, 2009) |
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17:30 | jwagner | @quote random |
17:30 | munin | jwagner: Quote #31: "<@gmcharlt> but hacking Koha *should* be a restful part of any vacation ;)" (added by chris at 07:31 PM, September 02, 2009) |
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17:35 | cait | hi #koha |
17:37 | owen-away is now known as owen | |
17:37 | hdl | bye folks |
17:38 | owen | That's what my vacation lacked: Koha hacking |
17:38 | cait | some people would say its not a vacation when you start hacking koha |
17:38 | but not me ;) I did the geman web installer files in my last vacation | |
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17:49 | jwagner | vacations? What are those??? |
17:49 | * chris_n | finds the 'V' section of his Webster's is missing.... :-P |
17:49 | jwagner | Probably eaten by vampires... |
17:51 | cait | jwagner: vampires? |
17:51 | twilight vampires or real vampires? | |
17:51 | * jdavidb | waves to cait |
17:51 | jwagner | I have a local development involving new indexes and the allocation of three MARC fields for specialized notes. I'm pondering turning it into a submission. I used 591, 592, and 593 MARC fields for this purpose -- do you think it's OK to submit the framework changes to add those fields, or should I use some other (maybe a 9xx)? |
17:51 | cait, any kind you like :-) | |
17:53 | I'm worried about overwriting anything a site might be using locally in 591-592-593 | |
17:55 | cait | jwagner: are these fields in the framework yet? |
17:56 | when you dont do a database update, libraries using the fields shoudl be fine | |
17:56 | but better ask gmcharlt or chris | |
17:57 | nengard: working on bug 4900? | |
17:57 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4900 critical, P5, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, sys pref useDaysMode misses option Datedue |
17:57 | jwagner | The 59x ones aren't in the framework. But somebody could be using them locally, like I am. |
17:57 | nengard | cait - yes |
17:57 | cait | ah ok, wanted to do that too, will pick on another bug :) |
17:58 | jcamins | As a cataloger, I find 59x for custom note fields vastly preferable to 9xx. I could not speak to the technical issues, however. |
17:59 | jwagner | I was rather curious as to what would happen if I put them into the updatedatabase script, and someone had already created them locally. |
17:59 | nengard | hehe sorry cait |
17:59 | cait | nengard: no problem, I will try 4474 |
17:59 | bug 4474 | |
17:59 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4474 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, sypref singleBranchMode swapped in new syspref editor |
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18:28 | nengard | bug 4900 patched |
18:28 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4900 critical, P5, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, sys pref useDaysMode misses option Datedue |
18:28 | nengard | was hard to figure out how to word that preferene :) but i think i did it |
18:28 | cait | oh |
18:28 | thx :) | |
18:28 | forgot I would have to change the sentence | |
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18:38 | cait | hi wizzyrea |
18:39 | wizzyrea_ | Wb |
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18:43 | cait | bug 4474 patched |
18:43 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4474 normal, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, sypref singleBranchMode swapped in new syspref editor |
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19:46 | * chris | goes to catch his bus |
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19:49 | jcamins | Is biblio.serial used for anything? |
19:50 | sekjal | jcamins: in theory, it should indicate if the biblio is a serial record or not. but whether it's populated or not depends on your data |
19:50 | by default, it maps from the 942s field | |
19:53 | jcamins | Does it matter if biblio.serial is set to yes for a monograph record? |
19:56 | sekjal | I'm not sure... my instinct is towards 'no'... but I can't say that authoritatively |
19:57 | jcamins | Okay, well, I'm going to assume it's not a problem, because I can't figure out why it's set to yes in the first place. |
20:00 | * chris | clocks in from the bus |
20:00 | nengard | jcamins i don't think it's a big deal - what it probably does is add the 'subscription' tab to the bib display in the opac and the staff client |
20:03 | jcamins | Thank you. |
20:05 | sekjal | nengard: just tested that, and no, the serial flag alone doesn't seem to add the subscription tab |
20:05 | nengard | oh well - guessed wrong :) |
20:05 | sekjal | I think it may be an older field, from before Zebra |
20:08 | it does add a column to the items table in the staff client's biblio detail page, however | |
20:08 | Publication Details, which I assume is either materials specified or enumchron | |
20:13 | chris | Ok nearly my stop bbiab |
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20:14 | cait | sekjal: perhaps its used in unimarc, I think there is a serial flag there for items |
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20:18 | caser | Greetings! Anyone know anything about bug 3082 - generating a report on the withdrawn status field? |
20:18 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3082 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Guided reports - withdrawn status field not available for selection |
20:23 | caser | I see it's actively being worked on. Does anyone know the location in the database I can query on - to do it manually? |
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20:28 | sekjal | caser: items.wthdrawn |
20:29 | chris | back |
20:33 | cait | wb chris |
20:33 | chris | thanks |
20:45 | caser | go it - thanks! |
20:45 | er --got it | |
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20:51 | richard | hi |
20:52 | chris | hi richard |
20:55 | meeting time bbiab | |
21:05 | jcamins | Does anyone have any advice on how to deal with bound-withs? |
21:06 | (i.e., two top-level bib records bound together willy-nilly into one binding, thus sharing a barcode and call number) | |
21:08 | Other than "if you bang your head on the desk hard enough, you'll forget about the bound-withs) | |
21:08 | *" | |
21:08 | cait | jacamins: we use dummy items in hjf |
21:09 | in hfjs library | |
21:09 | not a real good solution... but it works and is not too confusing for patrons (I hope) | |
21:10 | jcamins | So only the first item has a barcode? |
21:10 | cait | https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin[…]biblionumber=3413 |
21:10 | yes | |
21:10 | jcamins | I guess that would work for us, since we don't check books out. |
21:10 | cait | and the second item provides a link to the first record |
21:11 | jcamins | Oh, brilliant! |
21:11 | cait | we overwrite bibliographic information in koha with data from our union catalog, so I had to put it in the item |
21:11 | jcamins | I didn't know you could do that. |
21:11 | cait | there is a footnote in the holdings in the union catalog, but its text, nothing you can do a nice link with |
21:12 | perhaps there are better solutions, but its works until I have a better idea :) | |
21:13 | jcamins | Fair enough. |
21:13 | cait | you can have items without barcodes, but must be careful when reimporting data. |
21:14 | jcamins | Ideally at some point Koha will support a many-many relationship between items and bibs. |
21:14 | In the meantime, I'll take this. | |
21:17 | cait | :) |
21:18 | @wunder Konstanz | |
21:18 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 12.0�C (11:00 PM CEST on June 21, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
21:18 | cait | rain. what else. |
21:18 | good night all | |
21:19 | jcamins | Good night. |
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21:26 | caser | 'night all |
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21:42 | pianohack | Good afternoon |
21:51 | chris | hi pianohack |
21:52 | pianohack | Hi chris |
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22:07 | chris | hmm server restart? or network outage |
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22:07 | pianohack | I saw a message about a SIGTERM |
22:07 | Services still aren't back up | |
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22:11 | * chris_n | feels rather bounced |
22:11 | chris | hmm yeah |
22:11 | richard | sorry, server was restarted |
22:12 | chris | yay |
22:12 | pianohack: can you try services now please | |
22:17 | pianohack | thar we go |
22:17 | thanks chris | |
22:18 | chris | cool |
22:18 | chris_n | do services really take that long to recycle? |
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22:19 | chris | nope i just told them to restart |
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