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| 01:41 | * chris_n | drags by after another 650 bales of straw :-P |
| 01:41 | chris | yikes |
| 01:42 | hay baling was one of my least favourite holiday jobs | |
| 01:44 | chris_n | that makes 1150 bales between this evening and Saturday |
| 01:44 | chris | thats a lot of hay |
| 01:45 | chris_n | it's a tough job, but my children enjoy it (especially the selling part ;) |
| 01:45 | chris | do you do rectangle bales? |
| 01:45 | the rage here is now round ones | |
| 01:45 | chris_n | yup |
| 01:45 | we do round ones too, but the small ones make more $$$ | |
| 01:46 | chris | right |
| 01:46 | i remember throwing them up onto the back of the truck, that followed the tractor | |
| 01:46 | need good leather gloves, or that baling twine shreds your hands | |
| 01:46 | * chris_n | runs the baler and lets the kids do the pickup work |
| 01:47 | chris | and by the end of the day, my arms were shot, so i couldnt throw them high enough and they would bounce off the stack and hit me on the head |
| 01:47 | fun times :) | |
| 01:47 | chris_n | yeah, it will burn you up if you're not careful |
| 01:47 | hehe | |
| 01:47 | we actually had about 15 kids helping | |
| 01:47 | it was a blast | |
| 01:47 | chris | it still is better than crutching though |
| 01:47 | * larsw | realizes how urban he is |
| 01:47 | chris | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crutching |
| 01:48 | ah yeah, with a big group of kids, that'd be fun ;) | |
| 01:48 | chris_n | ouch |
| 01:48 | chris | the thing that gets you in crutching, is unlike full shearing, you dont get to stand up between sheep |
| 01:49 | basically someone jsut keeps dragging new ones over and you stay in a crouch | |
| 01:49 | shearing you go grab a new one each time | |
| 01:49 | really hard on the back | |
| 01:49 | chris_n | I saw a sheep sheared with hand shears the other weekend |
| 01:50 | it did not look fun for either the person or the sheep | |
| 01:50 | chris | that takes a lot of skill |
| 01:50 | larsw | sheep. I have not seen enough sheep in NZ yet. must fix. |
| 01:50 | chris_n | this lady did it in about 15 min |
| 01:50 | chris | impressive |
| 01:50 | chris_n | no nicks either |
| 01:50 | chris | doubly impressive |
| 01:51 | * chris_n | invites larsw to the country :) |
| 01:51 | chris | i used to be able to do one in about that time .. with electric shears :) |
| 01:51 | chris_n | it was amazing to me how much lanolin there was in the fleece |
| 01:51 | chris | oh yeah, shearers have some of the softest hands in the world :-) |
| 01:52 | larsw | if I could buy a 600mm lens for an APC-C sized sensor, or effectively 960 mm, I could experience sheep from quite far away -- but that might still be close enough :) |
| 01:52 | chris_n | lol |
| 01:52 | chris | you're not an nzer until you have had a ram head butt you in the crotch |
| 01:52 | larsw | well, s/buy/borrow/ |
| 01:52 | * chris_n | winces |
| 01:52 | larsw | chris, thanks for the warning, I'll be leaving on the next ship :) |
| 01:52 | * chris | makes up a new rule :) |
| 01:54 | chris_n | I must say that after staring at a computer screen all day, some good old-fashioned hard work makes for a nice change |
| 01:56 | reed | we should all go see the gold shears competition when it happens next |
| 01:56 | short train ride from here I think | |
| 01:56 | golden | |
| 01:58 | chris | heh |
| 01:58 | you can catch it on tv usually | |
| 01:58 | http://www.goldenshears.co.nz/ | |
| 01:59 | reed | yeah, seen bits |
| 01:59 | chris | maybe we could build them a website |
| 01:59 | reed | and it's something Jan would even like |
| 01:59 | larsw | ice hockey, shearing... reasons to not have a tv :) |
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| 02:04 | chris | wb wizzyrea_laptop |
| 02:04 | wizzyrea_laptop | thanks :) |
| 02:19 | chris | oh nice email from atz |
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| 03:23 | Amit | heya chris |
| 03:23 | @weather Dehradun | |
| 03:23 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 22.0�C (5:30 AM IST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa. |
| 03:23 | Amit | @weather Bangalore |
| 03:23 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 21.0�C (5:30 AM IST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. |
| 03:23 | Amit | @weather New Delhi |
| 03:23 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 21.0�C (8:30 AM IST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:24 | chris | @weather wellington,nz |
| 03:24 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (3:00 PM NZST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:27 | richard | was 6 deg in brooklyn 20 mins ago - according to my car anyway |
| 03:28 | wizzyrea_laptop | @weather lawrence, KS |
| 03:28 | munin | wizzyrea_laptop: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 22.5�C (10:31 PM CDT on June 07, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Rising). |
| 03:29 | chris | yeah its not warm |
| 03:29 | metservice say 6, feels like -1 | |
| 03:29 | (with the windchill) | |
| 03:29 | wizzyrea_laptop | brr |
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| 03:30 | larsw | it's just a matter of dressing properly... |
| 03:31 | chris | :) |
| 03:31 | wizzyrea_laptop | well, here it's more an issue of UN dressing properly |
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| 05:34 | indradg_ | Amit, ping |
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| 05:47 | Amit | hi indradg |
| 06:07 | Elwell | @weather christchurch, nz |
| 06:07 | munin | Elwell: The current temperature in Christchurch, New Zealand is 5.0�C (6:00 PM NZST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:25 | indradg_ | @weather kolkata |
| 06:25 | munin | indradg_: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 36.0�C (11:50 AM IST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 28.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
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| 06:46 | kmkale | Good afternoon |
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| 07:01 | kf | morning #koha |
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| 07:09 | paul | hello world |
| 07:12 | Amit | heya kf, kmkale, paul |
| 07:12 | kmkale | hi Amit |
| 07:51 | Amit | kmkale: i seeing your mail on koha mailing list |
| 07:51 | kmkale: i m seeing your mail on koha mailing list | |
| 07:51 | kmkale | yes Amit |
| 07:52 | Amit | good idea |
| 07:55 | kmkale | Thanks. Good projects like Granthalaya.org need all the support we can get |
| 07:55 | chris | granthalaya.org++ |
| 07:56 | Elwell++ #for the pod fixes | |
| 07:57 | kmkale | thanks chris |
| 07:57 | * chris | wonders if richard is around? |
| 08:01 | Elwell | no worries |
| 08:37 | hdl_laptop | hi all |
| 08:44 | chris | hi hdl_laptop |
| 08:46 | hdl_laptop | hi chris |
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| 09:20 | richard | hi chris |
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| 09:23 | * richard | wanders off |
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| 09:59 | Amit | @weather New Delhi |
| 09:59 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 25.0�C (3:00 PM IST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:59 | Amit | @weather Dehradun |
| 09:59 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 31.0�C (2:30 PM IST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa. |
| 09:59 | Amit | @weather Bangalore |
| 09:59 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 29.0�C (2:30 PM IST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. |
| 10:45 | kmkale_ is now known as kmkale | |
| 10:51 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 10:51 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.1�C (12:54 PM CEST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Rising). |
| 10:53 | kf | which version is the debian repository? |
| 10:54 | there is a question on German mailing list "how to install German translation during installation" and it depends on version :) | |
| 11:03 | chris | master |
| 11:04 | http://debian.koha-community.o[…]pool/main/k/koha/ | |
| 11:04 | see that number there? | |
| 11:04 | 20100608105233.2b2434ef | |
| 11:04 | tells you it was updated today | |
| 11:05 | and 2b2434ef is the commit | |
| 11:05 | gmcharlt | thought at some point debian packages of Koha translations would be nice |
| 11:05 | chris | yep, its on the list |
| 11:06 | kf: so the short answer is its built from master, until a 3.2 branch is created, then it will be built from there | |
| 11:07 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ian#Update_policy | |
| 11:07 | kf | hi chris |
| 11:07 | chris | hi kf |
| 11:07 | kf | he wrote to my mail address yesterday and now to list, really want to answer today |
| 11:08 | chris | heh i guess so :) |
| 11:08 | kf | so master branch is 3.0? |
| 11:08 | chris | no |
| 11:08 | kf | 'Until Koha 3.2 is released, the Koha packages will be built from the master branch, for the squeeze-dev pocket. When Koha 3.2 releases, packages for the squeeze pocket will be built from the 3.2 branch.' |
| 11:09 | chris | master is what will be 3.2 |
| 11:09 | kf | 3.2-master? |
| 11:09 | but where can I see now what version that is? how old? | |
| 11:09 | chris | its running the latest code from master, everyday |
| 11:09 | kf | ok, I think its without german web installer files and german interface should work, but not sure how old the files are, better download from pootle |
| 11:10 | oh | |
| 11:10 | cool | |
| 11:10 | larsw++ | |
| 11:10 | chris | until 3.2 is released, and then the stable package will only be updated at each release, and the unstable one will track master again (maybe :)) |
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| 11:11 | kf | really cool - thanx chris! chris++ |
| 11:11 | chris | but at the moment it means once you havce installed the package, you can just apt-get update |
| 11:11 | apt-get upgrade | |
| 11:11 | to be running the latest (or close to it) | |
| 11:12 | of course, we are still testing the packaging, and there is more work to do but it mostly works :) | |
| 11:12 | CGI751 | hi there |
| 11:12 | kf | ah, but I still have to perl translate install de-DE before I use the web installer? |
| 11:12 | chris | larsw is fixing any bugs reported |
| 11:13 | kf | does it include translations or do you need to download them? |
| 11:13 | chris | lemme look |
| 11:13 | CGI751 | an expert man can help about koha 3 |
| 11:13 | chris | kf: have to download them |
| 11:14 | CGI751 | i install koha 3 succesfully |
| 11:14 | kf | ok - thx a lot. |
| 11:15 | but before I can answer him, I have to find out why my library cant reset passwords for their borrowers... | |
| 11:15 | CGI751 | what can i import old record into koha library ? |
| 11:16 | i test bulkmarcimport.pl script , but it dosn't work ? | |
| 11:17 | kf | CGI751: not sure I can help, but more information is needed here: which version of koha, unimarc or marc? what kind of records are you importiing? error messages? |
| 11:17 | CGI751 | koha 3.0.0.6 |
| 11:18 | iso2709 to unimarc | |
| 11:18 | no error message | |
| 11:18 | my iso file contain more than 3000 record | |
| 11:19 | but when i import it , | |
| 11:19 | kf | your records are unimarc? |
| 11:19 | CGI751 | message tel me one record importet !!!??? |
| 11:19 | kf | which options did you use for import? |
| 11:20 | CGI751 | option = -file |
| 11:21 | kf | try to use -v for verbose |
| 11:21 | and I think you perhaps need to set the marc format to unimarc | |
| 11:21 | nto sure what standard is, but I think marc21 | |
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| 11:22 | CGI751 | my old record is iso2709 |
| 11:22 | jdavidb | g'mornin', #koha |
| 11:23 | chris | hi jdavidb |
| 11:23 | CGI751 | i test it now |
| 11:23 | kmkale | hi jdavidb |
| 11:24 | CGI751 | hi jdavidb |
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| 11:28 | chris | hi jwagner, francharb, nengard |
| 11:28 | francharb | hi chris |
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| 11:29 | jwagner | morning/evening chris |
| 11:31 | chris | the hail is keeping me awake |
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| 11:35 | CGI401 | Anyone around to help with an Koha install "make test" error? |
| 11:35 | chris | whats the error? |
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| 11:36 | nengard | i'm working on a section for the manual with all of the check out warnings that pop up - the yellow boxes - I have found 2 - can someone remind me of triggers for these messages? |
| 11:36 | CGI401 | I don't even know why it's doing this check as the DB is still empty: DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'koha.itemdeletelist' doesn't exist at /tmp/harley/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/ItemDeleteList.pm line 147. |
| 11:37 | chris | nengard: huh? |
| 11:37 | nengard | when you check things out |
| 11:37 | you get those yellow pop up boxes | |
| 11:37 | if someone tries to check out an item on hold for someone else | |
| 11:37 | jwagner | nengard, in general any condition that blocks a checkout will bring up one of those boxes. If all the bugs have been fixed :-) the box will have text in it with the reason for the block. |
| 11:37 | nengard | right - but i'm trying to trigger them so i can get screenshots for the manual - so i'm looking for a list of things that trigger them :) |
| 11:37 | chris | yep, checking the template is probably the easiest way |
| 11:38 | nengard | good idea |
| 11:38 | thanks | |
| 11:38 | chris | CGI401: yeah you can ignore that one |
| 11:38 | CGI401 | Super! Thanks |
| 11:39 | chris | it should have asked you if you wanted to run the db dependant tests |
| 11:39 | CGI401 | When I ran the make test? |
| 11:39 | chris | when you ran perl Makefile.PL |
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| 11:40 | CGI401 | Yes, it did. defaulted to No if I remember correctly. Should I re-run it with that test? or would this message not have appeared if I ran the test first? |
| 11:41 | CGI751 | hi again KF: |
| 11:41 | chris | no, it shouldnt be doing any tests the need the db if you choose no, but its safe to ignore for now |
| 11:41 | CGI401 | Thanks |
| 11:41 | kf | sorry, phone call |
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| 11:54 | nengard | so looking at the template for the check out page - and not all of these messages trigger ... uh oh :) |
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| 12:21 | owen | Happy birthday jdavidb! |
| 12:21 | kf | ooooooh |
| 12:21 | jdavidb | Thanks, owen! :) |
| 12:21 | kf | happy birthday jdavidb! and Alles Gute zum Geburtstag! |
| 12:22 | chris | hari huri tau ki a koe jdavidb |
| 12:23 | * jdavidb | loves working on a global project. |
| 12:23 | jdavidb | Thanks, kf and chris. :) |
| 12:24 | It's my 39th birthday, version 4.0. :) | |
| 12:25 | chris | :) |
| 12:25 | kf | :) |
| 12:25 | owen | I've had some years that could've used a bug fix or two |
| 12:27 | jdavidb | My 29th became abandonware after v9.0. Just had gone too far afield... |
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| 12:28 | kf | i think i will adapt your versioning system |
| 12:28 | owen | I'm still waiting for them to publish a manual for age 13. |
| 12:29 | chris | it involves lots of door slamming |
| 12:29 | they wrote the manual, but then the person writing it declared i hate you all, and set it on fire | |
| 12:29 | owen | :D |
| 12:30 | kf | :) |
| 12:31 | collum | Paraphrase of Mark Twain's manual. When they are 13 put them in a barrel with a knot hole to feed them. When they turn 15 plug up the knot hole. |
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| 12:33 | chris | heh |
| 12:34 | ok time for some sleep | |
| 12:34 | chris_n | g'morning |
| 12:34 | errr g'night | |
| 12:34 | owen | g'morning works for me ;) |
| 12:35 | kf | good night chris |
| 12:35 | * chris_n | wishes jdavidb happy birthday too |
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| 12:35 | kf | we need to find a way to send birthday cakes by irc |
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| 12:42 | kmkale | back. |
| 12:42 | nengard | kf i'm for finding a way to send any food at all via irc :) |
| 12:42 | kmkale | happy b'day jdavidb |
| 12:43 | jwagner | kmkale, congratulations on your announcement! |
| 12:43 | kmkale | Thanks jwagner |
| 12:43 | jwagner | nengard and kf, ESPECIALLLY chocolate! |
| 12:43 | nengard | hehe |
| 12:43 | jdavidb | so many, many nice folks....thanks, everyone, for the birthday wishes :) |
| 12:44 | * jwagner | tells people to stop being nice to jdavidb now -- he'll start expecting that every day :-) |
| 12:44 | kmkale | jdavidb: great versioning system. I think I will adapt it too.. |
| 12:45 | gmcharlt | jwagner: I'll have to disappoint you a bit longer :) |
| 12:45 | jdavidb: hapy birthday! | |
| 12:46 | jdavidb | woo hoo! |
| 12:47 | collum: I prefer a Mark-Twain-ish "gom jabbar": nail them in a barrel with two years worth of food...if they figure out how to escape before the grub runs out, they're intelligent enough to be called human. If not...well, they won't make more... | |
| 12:48 | collum | :) |
| 12:48 | Happy birthday jdavidb | |
| 13:03 | kmkale | nengard: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS is something missing in these below lines? |
| 13:03 | # Copy /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-main.tmpl to /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/pages.tmpl | |
| 13:03 | # At approximately line 38, change this: | |
| 13:03 | # To this: | |
| 13:04 | nengard | hmmm |
| 13:04 | probably an image ... | |
| 13:04 | the old wiki is gone so I can't find it - let me check the manual | |
| 13:05 | oh | |
| 13:05 | it was a commented bit of code | |
| 13:05 | will find it | |
| 13:08 | * chris_n | thought someone got a snapshot of the old wiki |
| 13:08 | gmcharlt | as of a few months ago, I do |
| 13:08 | chris_n | there was a bunch of stuff which did not get moved over |
| 13:09 | nengard | okay it's there - i need formatting help though |
| 13:09 | html as a syntax highlight doesn't work | |
| 13:09 | so i did perl and that screwed the page up | |
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| 13:43 | hdl_laptop | Happy birthday jdavidb and Kivutar |
| 13:43 | * jdavidb | perks up. Kivutar and I share a birthday? |
| 13:44 | paul | jdavidb, yep ;-) (although he's only 26. A baby geek :D ) |
| 13:45 | gmcharlt | they're so cute at that age ;) |
| 13:49 | chris_n | lol |
| 13:50 | gmcharlt | Kivutar: happy birthday |
| 13:50 | jdavidb | Happy birthday, Kivutar! :) |
| 13:51 | Nate | Happy Burfday jdavidb and Kivutar! |
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| 13:58 | Kivutar | :D |
| 13:58 | thanks a lot | |
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| 14:17 | jwagner | morning, wizzyrea -- caught your thieves yet? |
| 14:18 | wizzyrea | no, I wish. |
| 14:18 | I don't hold a lot of hope | |
| 14:19 | jwagner | :-( |
| 14:20 | kmkale | Happy B'day Kivutar |
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| 14:21 | jwagner is now known as jwagner_meeting | |
| 14:21 | * jwagner_meeting | dons sweater in preparation for ice-cold meeting room :-( |
| 14:25 | * kf | sends jawagner hot chocolate ;) |
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| 14:57 | CGI401 | Hello all, having an apache problem with Koha. Can't get Admin interface up to run the web installer, port 80 is fine. When I restart apache I get this: |
| 14:57 | VirtualHost MYIP:8080 overlaps with VirtualHost MYIP:8080, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive | |
| 14:57 | Any ideas? This usually just works! | |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | you probably need to disable your default interface |
| 14:57 | CGI401 | Tried that, same error |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | a2dissite default |
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| 15:00 | kf | bye all |
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| 15:04 | CGI401 | Anyone!? |
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| 15:20 | bgkriegel | CGI401, have you more than one VirtualHost MYIP:8080? |
| 15:21 | CGI401 | No, It's really strange. I can't get any back from 8080, if I telnet to it locally I get disconnected, although nmap tells me something is there |
| 15:22 | if I swap OPAC and ADMIN ports the same problem occurs, that is, I can then connect to the ADMIN page but not OPAC which is now on 8080 | |
| 15:23 | wizzyrea | do you have something like NameVirtualHost * in your koha config? |
| 15:24 | you may need to comment that out | |
| 15:24 | CGI401 | When you say Koha config, where do you mean? Site-enabled? |
| 15:24 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 15:25 | CGI401 | It's the first line but it's commented out by default |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | can you paste the contents of that into a pastebin (pastebin.com) |
| 15:25 | maybe it will be illuminating | |
| 15:26 | CGI401 | yep.....1 minute |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | of your koha host |
| 15:26 | CGI401 | koha host? |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | sorry, your koha apache config file |
| 15:26 | CGI401 | into pastebin? Yep... |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | yes please |
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| 15:30 | CGI401 | That's there now - KohaConfigfile |
| 15:31 | wizzyrea | link? |
| 15:31 | CGI401 | T'wud by handy.........http://pastebin.com/ByKdnf5g |
| 15:32 | BTW, I changed to port to 81 as you can see | |
| 15:32 | wizzyrea | try putting in the actual IP of your machine instead of * in front of :80 and :8080 |
| 15:32 | and remove :81 | |
| 15:33 | CGI401 | I did that at the start, will try it again, one minute |
| 15:34 | Same problemo, port 80 comes up fine, nothing on 81 | |
| 15:36 | chris_n | CGI401: do you have a 'listen 81' directive in your config? |
| 15:36 | wizzyrea | or listen 8080 |
| 15:36 | depending on which you want to work | |
| 15:37 | CGI401 | Sorry, I can see this looks confusing now. At the moment ports are set to listen on 81. I thought there might be a conflict on 8080, I can change back to 8080 to make it read better? |
| 15:37 | so ATM, ports.conf: listen 80, and 81 | |
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| 15:38 | chris_n | I assume that there are two 'listen' lines |
| 15:38 | just a sanity check | |
| 15:38 | CGI401 | Yep!!! |
| 15:44 | I noticed this when restarting Apache: | |
| 15:44 | [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts | |
| 15:44 | But port is up and running fine? | |
| 15:48 | chris_n | that might be an indication that your apache config has a NameVirtualHost * directive somewhere else in the config |
| 15:49 | CGI401 | Even more strange, it was the ports.conf file had a reference to it. That warning is gone now......is there any verbose loggin I can switch on? |
| 16:08 | OK - I have resovled the problem and its a pretty basic and embarassing problem! | |
| 16:08 | Wait for it......................port 8080 was not open to my host | |
| 16:09 | ditry iptables | |
| 16:15 | wizzyrea | owch |
| 16:15 | glad you figured it out though :D | |
| 16:16 | CGI401 | Thanks....and thanks for the help too! |
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| 16:33 | owen | hdl_laptop or paul around? |
| 16:33 | hdl_laptop | I am |
| 16:34 | owen | Hi hdl_laptop. I'm looking at Bug 3628 and have a question |
| 16:34 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3628 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, functionalities not present |
| 16:34 | owen | It looks like two of the three items on that list have been pushed. The third one I think not? |
| 16:35 | If that is correct I'll revise the bug report and change it to an enhancement asking for the opacSerialDefaultTab preference | |
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| 17:04 | cait | hi #koha |
| 17:04 | jwagner | Hi cait |
| 17:05 | cait | :) |
| 17:06 | owen is now known as owen-away | |
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| 17:19 | jdavidb | hi, cait! :) |
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| 17:45 | * jdavidb | tempts fate once more. |
| 17:46 | jdavidb | @roulette |
| 17:46 | munin | jdavidb: *click* |
| 17:46 | jdavidb | rats. |
| 17:46 | @roulette | |
| 17:46 | jdavidb was kicked by munin: BANG! | |
| 17:46 | * munin | reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 17:46 | jdavidb joined #koha | |
| 17:46 | jdavidb | Ah. Better. |
| 17:47 | owen-away is now known as owen | |
| 17:47 | owen | jdavidb: munin has it in for you! |
| 17:47 | jdavidb | It does! |
| 17:47 | It's 3 for 4 since it got an op tag. | |
| 17:47 | brendan | @roulette |
| 17:47 | brendan was kicked by munin: BANG! | |
| 17:47 | * munin | reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 17:48 | * jdavidb | whoops |
| 17:48 | owen | munin is mad with power I tell you |
| 17:48 | munin | owen: Error: "is" is not a valid command. |
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| 17:49 | jdavidb | @karma munin |
| 17:49 | munin | jdavidb: Karma for "munin" has been increased 8 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 5. |
| 17:50 | * jdavidb | gets out a slingshot and a bag of Skittles, and prepares to defend himself against munin. |
| 17:54 | has birthday cookies from a coworker---anyone want some? | |
| 17:55 | wasabi | @roulette |
| 17:55 | wasabi was kicked by munin: BANG! | |
| 17:55 | * munin | reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 17:56 | wasabi | @roulette |
| 17:56 | munin | wasabi: *click* |
| 17:56 | wasabi | @roulette |
| 17:56 | munin | wasabi: *click* |
| 17:56 | wasabi | @roulette |
| 17:56 | wasabi was kicked by munin: BANG! | |
| 17:56 | * munin | reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 17:57 | collum | munin take_it_easy |
| 17:57 | munin | collum: Error: "take_it_easy" is not a valid command. |
| 17:57 | collum | :) |
| 17:58 | * chris_n | tries to imagine munin with a 10 gallon hat and cowboy boots on |
| 17:58 | tomascohen | does anyone know who is responsible for the code of "IsMemberBlocked"? |
| 17:58 | nengard | heh |
| 17:58 | chris_n | tomascohen: bit blame does |
| 17:58 | s/bit/git/ | |
| 17:59 | nengard | i don't understand git blame |
| 17:59 | or how to use it | |
| 17:59 | just fyi | |
| 17:59 | tomascohen | chris_n: thanks, i'll try.. We have weird behaviour in several cases |
| 17:59 | i is getting worse | |
| 17:59 | :D | |
| 18:00 | sekjal | nengard: it's really handy. shows you, line by line, who submitted the commit that added each line to a file |
| 18:00 | nengard | but what do it give it to get an answer? like do i say git blame IsMemberBlocked ? |
| 18:00 | or what? | |
| 18:00 | tomascohen | chris_n: its really awesome |
| 18:01 | nengard | i haven't needed it |
| 18:01 | tomascohen | git blame Members.pm |
| 18:01 | nengard | ahh |
| 18:01 | cool | |
| 18:01 | * chris_n | runs and hides |
| 18:01 | sekjal | you can specify only the lines for IsMemberBlocked, if you know them |
| 18:01 | chris_n | git blame foo.pm | grep culprits_name |
| 18:01 | sekjal | rather than having to read the whole Members.pm file |
| 18:02 | nengard | very cool - thanks for the tips :) maybe an article for the next next newsletter (yes i meant to type next 2 times) |
| 18:02 | chris_n | nengard: git blame foo.pm | grep IsMemberBlocked |
| 18:02 | opps... git blame Members.pm | grep IsMemberBlocked | |
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| 18:47 | jwagner | @quote random |
| 18:47 | munin | jwagner: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 09:55 PM, June 11, 2009) |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 18:47 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)" (added by chris at 03:59 PM, June 23, 2009) |
| 18:48 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 18:48 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #14: "joetho: I only looked for missing ccodes- not dysfunctional orphans." (added by wizzyrea at 04:31 PM, July 09, 2009) |
| 18:50 | jdavidb | @quote random |
| 18:50 | munin | jdavidb: Quote #43: "< Ropuch> Uh - beware of tea: it can burn your throat" (added by chris at 04:35 AM, October 30, 2009) |
| 18:50 | jdavidb | @roulette |
| 18:50 | munin | jdavidb: *click* |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 18:50 | jdavidb | @roulette |
| 18:50 | munin | jdavidb: *click* |
| 18:50 | * jdavidb | grins |
| 18:50 | jdavidb | @roulette |
| 18:50 | munin | jdavidb: *click* |
| 18:50 | jdavidb | aw, c'mon... |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | @eightball Do you know the answer of that burning question I have? |
| 18:50 | munin | wizzyrea: No chance. |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | bummer. |
| 18:51 | jwagner | jdavidb, if you WANT to be shot, I'm sure we can oblige :-) |
| 18:51 | * jwagner | is feeling snarky today |
| 18:52 | jdavidb | @eightball Will I ever get caught up with stuff here? |
| 18:52 | munin | jdavidb: One would be wise to think so. |
| 18:52 | * jdavidb | kicks munin in the shins. |
| 18:53 | jdavidb | @roulette |
| 18:53 | munin | jdavidb: *click* |
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| 19:01 | wizzyrea | nengard www.koha-community.org/wp-content/uploads/kohadocs/koha3-2manual.pdf |
| 19:07 | i know, no images, I'm looking into that part | |
| 19:08 | jdavidb | @roulette |
| 19:08 | munin | jdavidb: *click* |
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| 19:40 | brendan | kind of more fun when munin has OPS |
| 19:40 | ;) | |
| 19:40 | wizzyrea | well promote him |
| 19:40 | sheesh | |
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| 19:41 | brendan | he has OPS |
| 19:41 | wizzyrea | oh I wasn't asking to be promoted... so much responsibility |
| 19:42 | ^.^ | |
| 19:42 | and hi | |
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| 20:11 | wizzyrea | damaged items should not be pickable |
| 20:11 | correcT? | |
| 20:11 | for holds queues? | |
| 20:11 | owen | I think so, but whoever designed the holds queue report disagreed |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | AHA |
| 20:12 | so | |
| 20:12 | bug or feature | |
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| 20:13 | owen | wizzyrea: I don't know, are you ready for the whole "define availability go-round" again? :) |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | mickey claims that it doesn't pick damaged items if it's the only |
| 20:13 | item | |
| 20:13 | BRING IT | |
| 20:13 | ;) | |
| 20:14 | owen | wizzyrea: In our experience that was not correct. Our holds queue report would list a damaged item even with other copies available |
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| 20:14 | owen | However, we've been using a home-grown report for a while now, so I guess it could have changed. |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | ooh |
| 20:15 | some day you must share this with me >.> | |
| 20:16 | owen | I'll have to take a look at it to see if I would embarrass myself if anyone saw it |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | how is id different? |
| 20:16 | hehe | |
| 20:16 | I could send you some of my code, then you woulnd't be embarrassed. | |
| 20:16 | because at least you'd be better than me >.> | |
| 20:20 | owen: If the only item that exists for a bib, and it's marked damaged, it picks it? | |
| 20:21 | tenses, I mix them. rock and roll. | |
| 20:21 | owen | I'd have to run a fresh test to really be able to confirm that |
| 20:21 | wizzyrea | it's ok |
| 20:21 | don't do that, because we can do that :) | |
| 20:21 | joetho | send it to her anonymously |
| 20:21 | owen | The two things we wanted for our holds queue report: Exclude damaged items, and show the barcode. |
| 20:21 | joetho | I send her anonymous stuff all the time |
| 20:21 | wizzyrea | we did the barcode thing |
| 20:22 | joetho | how did you do the barcode? |
| 20:22 | * wizzyrea | added it to the template, we have a custom one for that |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | one of like, 5 templates we have that are custom on the staff side |
| 20:22 | joetho | I figured |
| 20:22 | I would like to customize ours at some point | |
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| 20:23 | pianohacker | I'd like to get down to 5 custom templates someday ;_; |
| 20:23 | * wizzyrea | pats pianohacker |
| 20:25 | * owen | built a PHP script that pulls from our Koha database |
| 20:27 | owen | gotta go, quittin' time |
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| 20:33 | richard | hi |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | well it looks like you can't *place* a hold on a damaged item |
| 20:39 | but if a hold is existent, the item can be PICKED | |
| 20:43 | chris | morning |
| 20:43 | stop picking at your items wizzyrea | |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | they're like boogers, I can't stop |
| 20:46 | lol, how do you refer to the process of picking items to fill reserves | |
| 20:52 | joetho | if you keep picking items, they will never heal |
| 20:55 | chris | heh |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea: i have no idea | |
| 20:58 | richard: i was gonna ask, could i get a demo of kakama set up to try out? | |
| 20:59 | richard | have one for you already |
| 20:59 | * richard | hunts up a url |
| 20:59 | chris | sweet |
| 21:00 | have ppl seen this? http://katipo.co.nz/solutions/kakama/ | |
| 21:00 | libraries do lots of staff rosters i imagine | |
| 21:00 | and events | |
| 21:00 | richard | the next step for it is to do recurring events to make it more of a roster thing |
| 21:01 | chris | cool |
| 21:01 | richard | at the moment it's geared more to handle rosterging staff for one-off events |
| 21:01 | chris | it will be being used to roster staff for kohacon10 i imagine .. the convention centre use it eh? |
| 21:02 | richard | yeah they do |
| 21:02 | chris | noice synchronicity :) |
| 21:04 | richard | chris: http://demo.kakama.org/ |
| 21:04 | chris | ta |
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| 21:07 | richard | give me a yell if you want some tips on how to drive it - the website pages are the specs i wrote up for it so might be missing some "instruction manual" type stuff |
| 21:08 | chris | ahh right cool will do |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | richard: I first read that as the "insurrection manual" |
| 21:22 | perhaps I should go home. | |
| 21:22 | richard | :) |
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| 21:26 | larsw | it seems I need to learn about Koha translations so I can get them included in the Debian packages |
| 21:27 | chris | :) |
| 21:28 | misc/translator/translate | |
| 21:28 | pianohacker | larsw: Chris is the person to ask :) |
| 21:28 | larsw | pianohacker, yes, he generally is :) |
| 21:28 | chris | if you run it without options it gives you a nice help page |
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| 21:28 | chris | fredericd actually wrote translate ... its nice |
| 21:36 | larsw | chris turned around and discussed this with me |
| 21:36 | chris | rl is handy sometimes |
| 21:36 | larsw | I'll figure out the mechanics and include all the translations in the deb at some point |
| 21:36 | filing bug about it now | |
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| 22:52 | wasabi | any good git commands to check a repo's correctness? |
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| 22:52 | chris | gonna need to use more words wasabi |
| 22:53 | correctness as in what? | |
| 22:53 | chilts | git fsck gives some diagnostics |
| 22:53 | but if it's broken, it's probably worth re-cloning | |
| 22:53 | wasabi | lol, ta :) |
| 22:53 | * chilts | has _never_ used it |
| 22:53 | chilts | have never seen the need |
| 22:54 | wasabi | it was a silly question... :p |
| 22:54 | jo | Mason: do you know much about the holds report options in circulation menu |
| 22:55 | wasabi | not really... |
| 22:55 | jo | ok |
| 22:55 | wasabi | its refers to LLEK holds stuff i think? |
| 22:55 | twas 1 year since i looked | |
| 22:56 | chris | its definitely not to do with LLEK |
| 22:57 | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]=x6583#holdsqueue | |
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| 22:58 | wasabi | checks... |
| 22:59 | jo | thanks |
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| 23:02 | wasabi | ahh, holds-report uses misc/cronjobs/holds/build_holds_queue.pl |
| 23:03 | i though build_holds_queue.pl referred to LLEK only holds-tables | |
| 23:04 | chris | nope, just like the manual says :-) |
| 23:05 | * wasabi | slaps silly hand with authoritative hand |
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| 23:13 | larsw | what do the database-dependent tests actually do? is it safe to run them? |
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| 23:17 | jdavidb | @roulette |
| 23:17 | jdavidb was kicked by munin: BANG! | |
| 23:17 | * munin | reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 23:17 | jdavidb | :) |
| 23:18 | chris | larsw: yes its safe |
| 23:18 | jdavidb: you are up late | |
| 23:18 | jdavidb | 7:30 PM here. Just logged on later than usual. |
| 23:20 | chris | ahhh |
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