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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:05 | brendan | cya #koha |
| 00:05 | enjoy the weekend | |
| 00:10 | slef | ta |
| 00:10 | you too | |
| 00:15 | brendan left #koha | |
| 00:32 | reed joined #koha | |
| 00:32 | reed | chris, you there? check yer mail |
| 00:38 | chris | looking now |
| 00:40 | ohh, that looks like a great coffee discussion topic on monday :) | |
| 00:41 | reed | heh |
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| 01:38 | brendan joined #koha | |
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| 01:40 | brendan | @roulette |
| 01:40 | munin | brendan: *click* |
| 01:43 | wizzyrea_laptop | omg, dude, do you really want to die? |
| 01:43 | lol | |
| 01:43 | i.e. should we be concerned about you? | |
| 01:45 | j/k | |
| 01:47 | chris | w |
| 01:48 | doh, wrong window | |
| 01:48 | wizzyrea_laptop | at least you didn't type in your password |
| 01:49 | chris | yep :) |
| 01:49 | richard | pretty close tho, eh chris :) |
| 01:52 | brendan | @roulette |
| 01:52 | munin | brendan: *click* |
| 01:52 | brendan | lucky streak is on |
| 01:54 | mason | heh, looks at this... |
| 01:54 | http://rdanderson.com | |
| 01:54 | * richard | scrubs up pretty well for the photos |
| 01:54 | mason | and a forum too... http://rdanderson.com/phpBB/index.php |
| 01:55 | brendan | that's fabulous |
| 01:55 | mason | http://rdanderson.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=6 |
| 01:55 | a fav. fotos page.... | |
| 01:55 | brendan | who would win in a fight MacGyver or Chcuk Norris |
| 01:57 | mason | its good to see the RDA fandom depicted in 'the simpsons' exists in real life! |
| 01:58 | hay, i wonder if chuck norris has a similar fan-site... | |
| 01:59 | "Chuck Norris can kick through all 6 degrees of separation, hitting anyone, anywhere, in the face, at any time." | |
| 02:03 | http://www.chucknorris.com/html/kids.aspx?id=1045 | |
| 02:04 | and a last one.... | |
| 02:04 | http://rdanderson.com/photos/love/love.htm | |
| 02:05 | this one's got RDA kissing Vicki in the final frame, priceless... | |
| 02:07 | ahh, its actually linda blair, not vicki :/ | |
| 02:28 | wizzyrea_laptop | re: the fight, it depends on if mac can fashion a god foot from paperclips, chewing gum, and duct tape. |
| 02:28 | I'm guessing it's not really possible. | |
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| 03:00 | chris | hi jdavidb |
| 03:00 | jdavidb | hi, chris. |
| 03:00 | * chris | is experimenting with FCGI::Async and nginx |
| 03:01 | chris_n | heya jdavib, chris |
| 03:01 | jdavidb | howdy, chris_n |
| 03:12 | wizzyrea_laptop | sup jdavidb |
| 03:12 | jdavidb | hi, wizzy. :) |
| 03:12 | * chris_n | wonders if wizzyrea_laptop == wizzyrea_home? |
| 03:12 | wizzyrea_laptop | yep :) |
| 03:13 | or more accurately... | |
| 03:13 | wizzyrea_types_inbed | |
| 03:13 | because it's comfy and warm | |
| 03:13 | chris_n | hehe |
| 03:14 | if I took my laptop toward the bed, I'd probably get pushed out... ;-) | |
| 03:14 | wizzyrea_laptop | by your laptop? or your wife? |
| 03:14 | chris_n | lol |
| 03:14 | * wizzyrea_laptop | 's laptop has a mind of its own |
| 03:15 | chris_n | my wife would probably have both it and me on the floor :) |
| 03:15 | wizzyrea_laptop | hehe |
| 03:15 | the hubs plays bass in a band, he's got a gig tonight. I'd go except no sitter or el bebeh. | |
| 03:16 | s/or/for | |
| 03:16 | chris_n | yup, kids do change things |
| 03:16 | wizzyrea_laptop | so I"m free to laptop anyplace I like ^.^ |
| 03:24 | jdavidb | I couldn't take my lappy to bed. the wahrless doesn't like our metal-stud walls, and my work lappy is a 9-pound road warrior. Don't want it anywhere near my lap. |
| 03:26 | brendan | yup not allowed to bring my laptop to bed either |
| 03:27 | chris_n | hey brendan |
| 03:27 | brendan | hiya |
| 03:27 | * chris_n | finds that running laptops on the bedtop tends to dramatically shorten the life of the battery |
| 03:28 | chris | http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]ch.pl?idx=&q=fish |
| 03:28 | no apache involved at all | |
| 03:28 | wizzyrea_laptop | hm, i haven't ever noticed that, but mine's a macbook that vents out the back |
| 03:30 | brendan | nice chris |
| 03:30 | chris | nginx + this |
| 03:30 | http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]22e45acd3f8c27a50 | |
| 03:30 | brendan | really snappy here |
| 03:30 | chris_n | very nice |
| 03:31 | chris | i may just have blown it up |
| 03:31 | brendan | what's the location of the server |
| 03:31 | chris | (running load test) |
| 03:31 | umm 3 metres away from me in my house | |
| 03:32 | brendan | wow that's way faster than the opac.demo.catalyst |
| 03:33 | chris_n | bit slow from my neck of the woods |
| 03:33 | but that may be due to a poor quality link hree | |
| 03:33 | here even | |
| 03:35 | * wizzyrea_laptop | noticed that too, but ditto on the link |
| 03:37 | jdavidb | Very quick for me. |
| 03:38 | chris | k, profilng the old set up |
| 03:39 | got the load up to 31 already | |
| 03:39 | yikes | |
| 03:40 | 49.93 | |
| 03:41 | wizzyrea_laptop | !! |
| 03:41 | chris_n | probably my last mile link |
| 03:43 | chris | 74.68 |
| 03:43 | * chris_n | is on about a 35k foot loop |
| 03:43 | chris | i suspect i put a bit too much load on |
| 03:43 | chris_n | hehe |
| 03:45 | chris | still will be interesting to compare against the nginx set up |
| 03:45 | brendan | slowed way down - |
| 03:45 | chris | yeah cos im poundng the apache2 |
| 03:45 | brendan | love this title --> this title has a < and " and a & in it |
| 03:45 | chris | heh |
| 03:45 | brendan | Available: Chris Office |
| 03:45 | chris | right ive topped out the ram |
| 03:45 | 3 gig gone | |
| 03:45 | swapping hard | |
| 03:45 | 108.67 | |
| 03:45 | brendan | :) |
| 03:45 | chris_n | wow, thomas the tank engine.. .the kiddies would love your library :) |
| 03:45 | chris | it may not recover |
| 03:45 | chris_n | 504 error now |
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| 03:46 | chris | so in 252 seconds i got 11 200s from apache2 |
| 03:46 | in 142 seconds | |
| 03:46 | i got 131 from nginx | |
| 03:47 | ill take that as a win | |
| 03:47 | waiting for the load to drop and will try nginx again | |
| 03:49 | chris_n | quite snappy from here now chris |
| 03:50 | chris | cool |
| 03:50 | ok, .92 | |
| 03:50 | im gonna run 100 concurrent requests against it | |
| 03:51 | hehe its running now | |
| 03:51 | 0.27, 29.73, 41.26 | |
| 03:52 | .46 | |
| 03:52 | apache2 was swapping by now | |
| 03:53 | finished | |
| 03:53 | .61 | |
| 03:53 | it maxed out as | |
| 03:53 | mason | heya |
| 03:54 | chris | Test total duration was 112 seconds and CAPS average 2: |
| 03:54 | H/F Req:159,1xx:0,2xx:123,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:36,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:34403ms,D-2xx:25939ms,Ti:8025B/s,To:231B/s | |
| 03:54 | H/F/S Req:0,1xx:0,2xx:0,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:0,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:0ms,D-2xx:0ms,Ti:0B/s,To:0B/s | |
| 03:54 | got some 500's | |
| 03:54 | mason | thats a big difference |
| 03:54 | jdavidb | I'm gonna head to bed. y'all have a great weekend. |
| 03:54 | chris | but still got 123 requests through |
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| 03:55 | chris | so yeah this deserves more investigation i think |
| 03:55 | brendan | oh nice |
| 03:55 | and you've got m$ books in your catalog too ;) | |
| 03:55 | chris_n | very nice |
| 03:55 | mason | apache: 111 hits in 259 secs |
| 03:56 | chris | looking at my results? |
| 03:56 | 111 requests | |
| 03:56 | mason | nginx: 206 in 142 secs |
| 03:56 | chris | on 11 were 200 tho mason |
| 03:56 | so apache only served up 11 pages successfully | |
| 03:57 | i was requesting 100 at a time | |
| 03:57 | mason | ah, click.. |
| 03:57 | chris | which is pretty high |
| 03:57 | mason | aaaaah |
| 03:57 | even more telling... | |
| 03:57 | chris | but nginx and FCGI::Async coped a lot better |
| 03:57 | and | |
| 03:57 | i only have one backend running | |
| 03:57 | gimme 5 mins | |
| 03:58 | mason | so, http 2xx are successes? |
| 03:58 | chris | yeah 200's |
| 03:58 | mason | ok |
| 03:58 | chris | ill get another 2 backend fastcgi running |
| 03:58 | and then see how we go | |
| 03:58 | mason | 5xx:75 ? |
| 03:59 | chris | yeah 500's probably scripts dying |
| 03:59 | mason | hay, wots the http-profiler called? |
| 04:00 | chris | curl-loader |
| 04:02 | same test | |
| 04:02 | 2 backends, 1 nginx | |
| 04:02 | Test total duration was 92 seconds and CAPS average 2: | |
| 04:02 | H/F Req:159,1xx:0,2xx:159,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:0,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:25431ms,D-2xx:25431ms,Ti:12037B/s,To:301B/s | |
| 04:02 | H/F/S Req:0,1xx:0,2xx:0,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:0,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:0ms,D-2xx:0ms,Ti:0B/s,To:0B/s | |
| 04:03 | 92 secs, got all 159 through | |
| 04:03 | * chris | will try 3 |
| 04:04 | chris_n | this looks sweet |
| 04:06 | chris | Test total duration was 75 seconds and CAPS average 3: |
| 04:06 | H/F Req:167,1xx:0,2xx:167,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:0,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:24456ms,D-2xx:24456ms,Ti:15384B/s,To:391B/s | |
| 04:06 | H/F/S Req:0,1xx:0,2xx:0,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:0,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:0ms,D-2xx:0ms,Ti:0B/s,To:0B/s | |
| 04:08 | now 4 | |
| 04:10 | Test total duration was 83 seconds and CAPS average 3: | |
| 04:10 | H/F Req:217,1xx:0,2xx:216,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:1,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:24894ms,D-2xx:24690ms,Ti:18143B/s,To:478B/s | |
| 04:10 | brendan | is this only the opac side ? |
| 04:10 | chris | yep |
| 04:10 | H/F/S Req:0,1xx:0,2xx:0,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:0,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:0ms,D-2xx:0ms,Ti:0B/s,To:0B/s | |
| 04:10 | so 216 throw .. so the sweet spot is around there | |
| 04:10 | through even | |
| 04:13 | i need laurel to take the kids to gallery openings more often ... its quite productive :) | |
| 04:14 | brendan | true :) |
| 04:14 | reading about nginx now | |
| 04:15 | chris_n | hehe |
| 04:15 | chris | FCGI::Async was the missing piece, i knew nginx is fast we use it at work |
| 04:16 | chris_n | is this it: http://nginx.org/ |
| 04:16 | chris | yep |
| 04:17 | http://wiki.nginx.org/Main | |
| 04:17 | best place | |
| 04:17 | brendan | http://wiki.ngins.org |
| 04:17 | jinx | |
| 04:17 | errr.. njinx | |
| 04:28 | chris | nginx++ |
| 04:28 | ok thats enough playing with that for now | |
| 04:28 | chris_n | nginx supports memcached |
| 04:30 | chris | yep we use that at work too |
| 04:30 | ok time to cook some dinner | |
| 04:30 | reed | chris, thinking of using it in place of apache for koha? |
| 04:30 | chris | yep |
| 04:30 | reed | sweet |
| 04:31 | you know how much i adore nginx | |
| 04:31 | chris | nginx + a FCGI::Async script |
| 04:31 | http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]22e45acd3f8c27a50 | |
| 04:31 | script is a simple as that | |
| 04:31 | chris_n | g'night all |
| 04:31 | chris | night chris_n |
| 04:31 | brendan | yeah going to play with it |
| 04:31 | night chris_n | |
| 04:32 | chris | it needs to be tidied up, and better error handling |
| 04:32 | but i thnk its worth investigating | |
| 04:34 | * chris | wanders off |
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| 06:02 | kmkale | @weather Mumbai |
| 06:02 | munin | kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 34.0�C (11:10 AM IST on May 01, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
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| 06:37 | braedon|home | anyone tried koha on 10.04 yet? |
| 06:37 | ubuntu 10.04* | |
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| 07:51 | chris | braedon|home: i havent yet |
| 07:52 | braedon|home | downloading server version now - will have a go with 3.2 |
| 07:54 | i may have another go at building ubuntu packages for the dependencies, since this is a LTS and someone may actually care :P. And i may be able to simply port some of lars' debian packages over, which would simplify things a lot | |
| 08:00 | chris | yep, they should all just work |
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| 08:18 | indradg_ | chris, (probably) dumb and OT question when is it summer in NZ? |
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| 08:36 | kmkale_laptop | when I try to upgrade from ubuntu 9.10 I get an error could not download release notes. :( |
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| 09:25 | kmkale | @weather Mumbai |
| 09:25 | munin | kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (2:10 PM IST on May 01, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
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| 10:47 | chris | indradg_: starts around october, ends in march |
| 10:49 | indradg_ | chris, so technically it is late winter / early spring now? |
| 10:49 | or? | |
| 10:51 | chris | its autumn |
| 10:51 | going into winter | |
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| 11:26 | nahuel | heya |
| 11:26 | someone that knows koha and marc21 ? :) | |
| 11:26 | gmcharlt, ? | |
| 11:26 | how can we do to do links between authorities ? | |
| 11:26 | in default auth fwk we cannot find any $9 | |
| 11:27 | perhaps i'm wrong... | |
| 11:27 | don't know | |
| 11:29 | hdl_laptop, | |
| 11:29 | :) | |
| 11:30 | indradg_ left #koha | |
| 11:33 | gmcharlt | nahuel: $9 works |
| 11:33 | for links between bib headings and authorities | |
| 11:33 | nahuel | no |
| 11:33 | gmcharlt | there is no conception of linking between authorities themselves |
| 11:34 | nahuel | I need between auth and auth |
| 11:34 | gmcharlt | between broader and narrower terms, e.g.? |
| 11:35 | nahuel | like between personnal name and corp. name |
| 11:35 | chris_n | hdl_laptop: I did a distro upgrade to lucid this week on my desktop and it went fine |
| 11:35 | and I installed the server version on a new box and that went fine too | |
| 11:36 | and g'morning #koha | |
| 11:36 | hdl_laptop | hi chris_n |
| 11:36 | good | |
| 11:37 | nahuel | gmcharlt, ? |
| 11:37 | slef | aha |
| 11:37 | chris_n | I have not tried putting Koha on yet though |
| 11:37 | slef | nahuel: this is on my TODO |
| 11:37 | nahuel: marc21 linking support in Koha is waaay behind unimarc | |
| 11:37 | gmcharlt | nahuel: that kind of semantic is not really expressable in MARC21 |
| 11:38 | it's not a Koha problem so much as a MARC21 problem | |
| 11:38 | hdl_laptop | MARC21 is not using authids but headings. |
| 11:38 | nahuel | héhé |
| 11:38 | gmcharlt, in unimarc too :) | |
| 11:38 | well... | |
| 11:38 | :) | |
| 11:38 | hdl_laptop | So respecting strictly the norm would be a nightmare. |
| 11:38 | slef | gmcharlt: it's been a while, but I think an emulation is possible |
| 11:38 | hdl_laptop | But using $9 could be ok imho |
| 11:38 | slef | won't export from koha well, though |
| 11:39 | yeah, $9 and more :-/ | |
| 11:39 | gmcharlt | taking on $9 in MARC21 auths wouldn't be a problem |
| 11:39 | *tacking on, that is | |
| 11:39 | hdl_laptop | slef: who would like to get out from Koha ;) |
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| 11:39 | slef | hdl_laptop: no lock-in, ok? |
| 11:39 | gmcharlt | but there would need to be an option to strip out them out during export |
| 11:39 | slef | gmcharlt: don't we already have some tag stripping? |
| 11:39 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: no lockin, and to *share* authority records :) |
| 11:39 | hdl_laptop | slef: just kidding |
| 11:39 | slef | or did I dream that? |
| 11:39 | gmcharlt | slef: yep |
| 11:40 | not a big deal, just saying that it would need to be accounted for | |
| 11:40 | slef | let me see if I can find a kohabug for it |
| 11:41 | if there is, it's not in my notes I have here :-/ | |
| 11:43 | bug 900 and bug 3429 are related... actually tons of authorities bugs :-( | |
| 11:43 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=900 enhancement, P2, ---, antoinekoha-fr.org, NEW, Unimarc Authorities |
| 11:43 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3429 major, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Searching fails for MARC21 authorities with ERROR 114 in zebrasrv log |
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| 11:47 | kmkale | munin++ |
| 12:01 | nahuel | well I found how to do it |
| 12:01 | just linking a thesaurus to the 260$a | |
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| 12:16 | gmcharlt | in MARC21 authorities? no, that's not what's it's for |
| 12:19 | nahuel | don't care |
| 12:19 | it works how we want | |
| 12:19 | :) | |
| 12:19 | see you | |
| 12:19 | were leaving | |
| 12:19 | and thanks | |
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| 12:19 | hdl_laptop | congrats nah |
| 12:33 | gmcharlt | let's make a deal - I won't try to dictate how you guys use UNIMARC, and you won't dictate how MARC21 is used, or blatantly choose to ignore it standards |
| 12:36 | mason | gmcharlt: i liked your fake-rda post last nite |
| 12:37 | gmcharlt | mason: I only wish I could take credit ;) |
| 12:37 | mason | ive had someone show me some doco from a nz-rda workshop... |
| 12:38 | ... it sounds like a grand-unifying theory, that isnt quite finished? | |
| 12:42 | gmcharlt | exactly |
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| 12:58 | slef | I took a look at RDA. Wondered if it was flawed or if I was flawed. Left it for later. |
| 13:05 | wizzyrea_laptop | guess it's time to do a feature list for.3.2 |
| 13:06 | an accurate one | |
| 13:14 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea_laptop: yep, I'm putting release notes together this weekend for alpha2, but will be throwing them up on a wiki somewhere as well |
| 13:16 | wizzyrea_laptop | super dee duper |
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| 14:00 | braedon|home | /sigh - not having ssh access to your web hosting is very frustraiting |
| 14:01 | wizzyrea_laptop | :/ yea |
| 14:02 | braedon|home | uploading mediawiki unzipped - 1500 files over ftp later... |
| 14:07 | * braedon|home | gives up and goes to bed - hopefully it will be done in the morning |
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| 14:30 | gmcharlt | anybody about who can translate a syspref to French for me? |
| 14:33 | chris_n | hi gmcharlt |
| 14:33 | gmcharlt | hi chris_n |
| 14:39 | chris_n | any suggestion on an inexpensive printer for use on a circ desk with Koha? |
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| 16:53 | gmcharlt | comments on patch series I submited for 4036, 4505, and 4429 solicated |
| 16:53 | solicited, even | |
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| 18:39 | bgkriegel | gmcharlt: 4505 does not exist. Is 4405? |
| 18:40 | gmcharlt | bgkriegel: yep, 4405 |
| 18:40 | bgkriegel | ok |
| 19:19 | indradg | @wunder kolkata |
| 19:19 | munin | indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 30.0�C (12:20 AM IST on May 02, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:22 | chris | 4405 works for me, i like that you fixed all my typos |
| 19:39 | brendan | afternoon all |
| 19:39 | @wunder 93117 | |
| 19:39 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 22.2�C (12:20 PM PDT on May 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Falling). |
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| 21:50 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 21:50 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 30.5�C (5:46 PM EDT on May 01, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 13%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1000.9 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:50 | * chris_n | grabs another glass of lemonade |
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