| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 01:17 |
* chris_n |
looks in |
| 01:19 |
chris |
sup chris_n |
| 01:20 |
chris_n |
just wandered by the computer and noticed how slow it was in here :) |
| 01:20 |
chris |
yeah, tis pretty quiet today |
| 01:20 |
chris_n |
hows the conversion going? |
| 01:21 |
chris |
we are in the final testing phase |
| 01:21 |
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leading up to the go live, so getting there |
| 01:21 |
chris_n |
cool |
| 01:21 |
chris |
most of the work has been moving from the frbr like structure, to the 2 tier marc one |
| 01:21 |
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without bustinating everything |
| 01:22 |
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man, savitra is really really helpful on the mailing lists |
| 01:22 |
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savitra++ |
| 01:42 |
chris_n |
g'night #koha |
| 01:43 |
chris |
night chris_n |
| 01:50 |
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| 03:52 |
Amit_G |
heya brendan, chris |
| 03:53 |
brendan |
hi Amit_G good morning to you |
| 03:53 |
Amit_G |
brendan: have u try OAI? |
| 03:53 |
brendan |
nope |
| 04:40 |
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@quote random |
| 04:40 |
munin |
brendan: Quote #70: "<wizzyrea> owen: I have a jquery... um... query for you" (added by jdavidb at 10:30 AM, April 01, 2010) |
| 04:42 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
oh that's a good one |
| 04:42 |
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@quote random |
| 04:42 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 08:11 AM, July 27, 2009) |
| 04:42 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
lol |
| 04:42 |
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this is fun. |
| 04:42 |
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@quote random |
| 04:42 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Quote #28: "<owen> I'm glad munin doesn't follow me around all day remembering *everything* I say." (added by jdavidb at 09:14 AM, September 01, 2009) |
| 04:42 |
chris |
ahh scrum methodology |
| 04:42 |
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how i loathe thee |
| 04:42 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@quote random |
| 04:42 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Quote #68: "gmcharlt: which probably means that library schools ought to rename Cataloging 101 to Identification and Avoidance of Rabbit Holes 101" (added by wizzyrea_laptop at 03:17 PM, March 10, 2010) |
| 04:43 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
I am SO excited about the debian package |
| 04:43 |
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so. So. SO excited. |
| 04:43 |
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like, squeeing excited. |
| 04:43 |
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@quote random |
| 04:43 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 09:13 AM, June 12, 2009) |
| 04:43 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@quote random |
| 04:43 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Quote #64: "<jwagner> Depends on whether you're trying to get intelligent participation, or just saying we're going to do it MY way" (added by brendan at 10:58 AM, March 01, 2010) |
| 04:43 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
oh snap |
| 04:44 |
chris |
lol |
| 04:44 |
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zing! |
| 04:44 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@quote random |
| 04:44 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Quote #70: "<wizzyrea> owen: I have a jquery... um... query for you" (added by jdavidb at 10:30 AM, April 01, 2010) |
| 04:44 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
munin likes that one |
| 04:44 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Error: "likes" is not a valid command. |
| 04:44 |
chris |
@love |
| 04:44 |
munin |
chris: Error: "love" is not a valid command. |
| 04:44 |
chris |
@hate |
| 04:44 |
munin |
chris: Error: "hate" is not a valid command. |
| 04:44 |
chris |
@feel_mostly_ambivalent_about |
| 04:44 |
munin |
chris: Error: "feel_mostly_ambivalent_about" is not a valid command. |
| 04:44 |
brendan |
@distance love hate |
| 04:44 |
munin |
brendan: Error: "distance" is not a valid command. |
| 04:48 |
chris |
@love fine_line hate |
| 04:48 |
munin |
chris: Error: "love" is not a valid command. |
| 04:49 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@kneel |
| 04:49 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Error: "kneel" is not a valid command. |
| 04:49 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
munin: why not? |
| 04:49 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Error: "why" is not a valid command. |
| 04:49 |
chris |
@help |
| 04:49 |
munin |
chris: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 04:49 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
munin is |
| 04:49 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Error: "is" is not a valid command. |
| 04:49 |
chris |
@plugins |
| 04:49 |
munin |
chris: Error: "plugins" is not a valid command. |
| 04:49 |
chris |
i wonder how you get a list |
| 04:50 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@list plugins |
| 04:50 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Error: 'plugins' is not a valid plugin. |
| 04:50 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@list |
| 04:50 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Admin, Alias, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, Dict, Factoids, Filter, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, MARC, Math, Misc, News, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, Seen, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Weather |
| 04:50 |
chris |
ahh there you go |
| 04:50 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
just like that |
| 04:50 |
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apparently |
| 04:50 |
chris |
@help factoids |
| 04:50 |
munin |
chris: Error: There is no command "factoids". |
| 04:50 |
brendan |
nice find |
| 04:50 |
chris |
@help Factoids |
| 04:50 |
munin |
chris: Error: There is no command "factoids". |
| 04:51 |
eythian |
@list factoids |
| 04:51 |
munin |
eythian: change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, search, unlock, and whatis |
| 04:51 |
brendan |
@games |
| 04:51 |
munin |
brendan: Error: "games" is not a valid command. |
| 04:51 |
chris |
ahh ta eythian |
| 04:51 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@factoid |
| 04:51 |
brendan |
@Games |
| 04:51 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Error: "factoid" is not a valid command. |
| 04:51 |
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brendan: Error: "Games" is not a valid command. |
| 04:51 |
* wizzyrea_laptop |
bonks munin on the head |
| 04:51 |
chris |
@whatis koha |
| 04:51 |
munin |
chris: "koha" could be http://www.koha.org/ |
| 04:51 |
brendan |
@Games help |
| 04:51 |
munin |
brendan: Error: The "Games" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "help" in it. Try "list Games" to see the commands in the "Games" plugin. |
| 04:51 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
fumble! |
| 04:51 |
chris |
@learn koha is koha-community.org |
| 04:51 |
munin |
chris: Invalid arguments for learn. |
| 04:51 |
brendan |
@listGames |
| 04:51 |
munin |
brendan: Error: "listGames" is not a valid command. |
| 04:51 |
chris |
@help learn |
| 04:51 |
munin |
chris: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 04:51 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
munin is a supybot |
| 04:51 |
brendan |
@list Games |
| 04:51 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Error: "is" is not a valid command. |
| 04:51 |
chris |
@learn koha as koha-community.org |
| 04:51 |
munin |
brendan: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette |
| 04:51 |
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chris: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:52 |
Amit_G |
@wunder Dehradun |
| 04:52 |
munin |
Amit_G: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 23.0�C (8:30 AM IST on April 29, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa. |
| 04:52 |
chris |
@whatis koha |
| 04:52 |
munin |
chris: "koha" could be (#1) http://www.koha.org/, or (#2) koha-community.org |
| 04:52 |
Amit_G |
@wunder New Delhi |
| 04:52 |
munin |
Amit_G: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 34.0�C (10:00 AM IST on April 29, 2010). Conditions: Unknown. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:52 |
chris |
@forget koha |
| 04:52 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@unlearn koha as http://www.koha.org |
| 04:52 |
munin |
chris: Error: 2 factoids have that key. Please specify which one to remove, or use * to designate all of them. |
| 04:52 |
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wizzyrea_laptop: Error: "unlearn" is not a valid command. |
| 04:52 |
Amit_G |
@whatis linux |
| 04:52 |
munin |
Amit_G: Error: No factoid matches that key. |
| 04:52 |
brendan |
@Games roulette |
| 04:52 |
munin |
brendan: *click* |
| 04:52 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
AHA |
| 04:52 |
chris |
@forget koha 1 |
| 04:52 |
munin |
chris: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:52 |
Amit_G |
@whatis perl |
| 04:52 |
munin |
Amit_G: Error: No factoid matches that key. |
| 04:52 |
chris |
@whatis koha |
| 04:52 |
munin |
chris: "koha" could be koha-community.org |
| 04:52 |
brendan |
@learn unlearn |
| 04:52 |
munin |
brendan: Invalid arguments for learn. |
| 04:52 |
chris |
success!!! |
| 04:53 |
* chris |
takes the small wins |
| 04:53 |
* wizzyrea_laptop |
highfives chris |
| 04:53 |
brendan |
small_wins++ |
| 04:53 |
Amit_G |
@whatis koha |
| 04:53 |
munin |
Amit_G: "koha" could be koha-community.org |
| 04:53 |
* brendan |
throws a highfive too |
| 04:53 |
Amit_G |
@wunder Bangalore |
| 04:53 |
munin |
Amit_G: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 25.0�C (8:30 AM IST on April 29, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. |
| 04:54 |
brendan |
@Games eightball |
| 04:54 |
munin |
brendan: It is possible. |
| 04:54 |
brendan |
@Games coin |
| 04:54 |
munin |
brendan: heads |
| 04:54 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@Games coin |
| 04:54 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: heads |
| 04:54 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@list |
| 04:54 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Admin, Alias, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, Dict, Factoids, Filter, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, MARC, Math, Misc, News, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, Seen, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Weather |
| 04:54 |
chris |
@games monologue |
| 04:54 |
munin |
chris: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long. |
| 04:54 |
chris |
ohh |
| 04:54 |
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@monologue |
| 04:54 |
munin |
chris: Your current monologue is at least 3 lines long. |
| 04:54 |
chris |
@coin |
| 04:54 |
munin |
chris: tails |
| 04:54 |
chris |
there we go |
| 04:55 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@monologue |
| 04:55 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long. |
| 04:55 |
chris |
@eightball should i go home now? |
| 04:55 |
munin |
chris: It is possible. |
| 04:55 |
eythian |
@list dict |
| 04:55 |
munin |
eythian: dict, dictionaries, and random |
| 04:55 |
chris |
alright! |
| 04:55 |
eythian |
@random |
| 04:55 |
munin |
eythian: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict, Factoids, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". |
| 04:55 |
eythian |
@dict random |
| 04:55 |
munin |
eythian: dan-eng |
| 04:55 |
eythian |
@dict random |
| 04:55 |
munin |
eythian: world95 |
| 04:55 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@factoids random |
| 04:55 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: "koha": koha-community.org; "light-speed": 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight; "slef": MJ Ray, webmaster-developer for TTLLP software.coop |
| 04:55 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@factoid learn wizzyrea as Liz Rea, NEKLS |
| 04:56 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Error: "factoid" is not a valid command. |
| 04:56 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
aw |
| 04:56 |
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@learn wizzyrea as Liz Rea, NEKLS |
| 04:56 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:56 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@factoid wizzyrea |
| 04:56 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Error: "factoid" is not a valid command. |
| 04:56 |
chris |
@whatis wizzyrea |
| 04:56 |
munin |
chris: "wizzyrea" could be Liz Rea, NEKLS |
| 04:56 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@factoid random |
| 04:56 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: Error: "factoid" is not a valid command. |
| 04:56 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
oh there you go |
| 04:56 |
* chris |
hands wizzyrea_laptop an s |
| 04:56 |
chris |
@factoids random |
| 04:56 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
OH |
| 04:56 |
munin |
chris: "open-source": open-source; "wizzyrea": Liz Rea, NEKLS; "slef": MJ Ray, webmaster-developer for TTLLP software.coop |
| 04:56 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
der |
| 04:57 |
chris |
ok hometime |
| 04:57 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
later :) |
| 04:58 |
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@learn zebra as the bane of our existence |
| 04:58 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:58 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
rofl |
| 05:09 |
brendan |
@Games eightball make a drink? |
| 05:09 |
munin |
brendan: NO! |
| 05:09 |
brendan |
@Games eightball have a drink? |
| 05:09 |
munin |
brendan: The answer is a resounding no. |
| 05:10 |
brendan |
wow ok thanks munes |
| 05:11 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
@Games eightball Not even Pina Coladas? |
| 05:11 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: The answer is a resounding no. |
| 05:12 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
Oh come on you crazy teetotaler |
| 05:12 |
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@Games eightball Beer? |
| 05:12 |
munin |
wizzyrea_laptop: What are you asking me for? |
| 05:12 |
wizzyrea_laptop |
oh now i've just made you angry. |
| 05:13 |
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anyway, good night humans and bots. ttyl. (lol) |
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| 06:33 |
chris |
back |
| 06:34 |
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hows the netherlands treatng you paul_p ? |
| 06:34 |
paul_p |
hi chris. |
| 06:34 |
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fine, thanks. weather very nice, people very nice. |
| 06:35 |
chris |
excellent, good to hear |
| 06:35 |
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i enjoyed myself when i was there in 1998 too |
| 06:39 |
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good ice cream i remember too |
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kf |
good morning |
| 07:25 |
chris |
hi kf |
| 07:25 |
kf |
hi chris |
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Amit_G |
heya kf |
| 07:59 |
kf |
hi Amit_G |
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greenmang0 |
@wunder mumbai |
| 09:29 |
munin |
greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (2:40 PM IST on April 29, 2010). Conditions: Unknown. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:38 |
magnus |
@wunder bodo, norway |
| 09:38 |
munin |
magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0�C (11:20 AM CEST on April 29, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:38 |
magnus |
...and there is 1 cm of fresh snow... |
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| 10:01 |
kf |
today is the "day of import problems" *sigh* |
| 10:11 |
magnus |
kf: ouch? |
| 10:13 |
kf |
magnus: ouch |
| 10:24 |
chris |
import problems are never fun |
| 10:25 |
hdl_laptop |
hi all |
| 10:26 |
chris |
hiya hdl_laptop |
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have you heard from nahuel? |
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BobB |
Hi all |
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kf |
we have to delete a lot of records, will it work to delete entries in biblioi and biblioitems (those records have no items) and reindex? |
| 11:39 |
chris |
yes |
| 11:39 |
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make sure you do a reset tho |
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chris |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]/faq/searching/#5 |
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kf |
chris: thx! |
| 11:46 |
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chris++ |
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kf |
@karma chris |
| 11:46 |
munin |
kf: Karma for "chris" has been increased 126 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 125. |
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jdavidb |
g'mornin, #koha! :) |
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chris |
hi jdavidb |
| 11:59 |
chris_n |
morning |
| 12:01 |
chris |
hi chris_n |
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kf |
morning jdavidb :) |
| 12:16 |
nengard |
morning all |
| 12:16 |
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i'm actually home for a few days before the next trip!!! :) |
| 12:17 |
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time to do some patching :) |
| 12:18 |
owen |
Hi everyone |
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| 12:25 |
owen |
nengard: Re: Bug 4407 |
| 12:25 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4407 normal, P5, ---, oleonard myacpl.org, NEW, view in opac link missing in staff client |
| 12:26 |
owen |
That works for me. Can you double-check? |
| 12:26 |
nengard |
I found the problem - I thought I updated - I'll update now - it's evil xslt in the staff client- |
| 12:27 |
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Found the problem if you turn off XSLTDetailsDisplay in the staff client then |
| 12:27 |
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the link is there. This is a bigger problem than this - basically the XSLT |
| 12:27 |
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template for the staff client is just a copy of the one for the OPAC and need |
| 12:27 |
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to be re-written. Will open a new bug for that if there isn't one already. |
| 12:27 |
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that's what i added to the bug report |
| 12:28 |
chris_n |
@quote add <nengard> it's evil xslt in the staff client |
| 12:28 |
munin |
chris_n: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 12:28 |
* chris_n |
harrumphs at munin |
| 12:29 |
jdavidb |
@quote add <nengard> it's evil xslt in the staff client |
| 12:29 |
munin |
jdavidb: The operation succeeded. Quote #72 added. |
| 12:29 |
chris_n |
for some reason munin seems to think someone else owns my nick |
| 12:29 |
jdavidb |
@quote random |
| 12:29 |
munin |
jdavidb: Quote #36: "<pianohacker> first, burn the perl book" (added by jdavidb at 03:12 PM, September 25, 2009) |
| 12:29 |
chris_n |
hehe |
| 12:30 |
jdavidb |
@quote random |
| 12:30 |
munin |
jdavidb: Quote #25: "<wizzyrea> ha, in #koha we don't pick each other's brains... we git pull them." (added by gmcharlt at 03:40 PM, August 14, 2009) |
| 12:31 |
chris |
merge --squash |
| 12:31 |
chris_n |
lol |
| 12:32 |
owen |
What's the command to identify yourself to munin? |
| 12:32 |
chris |
@quote 9 |
| 12:32 |
munin |
chris: Error: The "Quote" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "9" in it. Try "list Quote" to see the commands in the "Quote" plugin. |
| 12:32 |
chris |
@list quote |
| 12:32 |
munin |
chris: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats |
| 12:32 |
chris |
@quote get 9 |
| 12:32 |
munin |
chris: Quote #9: "pianohacker ponders drumstick->ear as a method of food acquisition...We haven't gone to this good mexican restaurant in a while..." (added by wizzyrea at 04:23 PM, June 19, 2009) |
| 12:32 |
chris |
@quote get 6 |
| 12:32 |
munin |
chris: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 12:13 PM, June 16, 2009) |
| 12:32 |
chris |
gah |
| 12:33 |
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there is some quote that has the command in it |
| 12:33 |
owen |
Only wizzyrea remembers it |
| 12:33 |
gmcharlt |
@quote search register |
| 12:33 |
munin |
gmcharlt: 1 found: #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" |
| 12:33 |
chris |
that one |
| 12:33 |
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yeah |
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| 12:34 |
owen |
and what does it mean if munin says "That name is already assigned to someone." |
| 12:34 |
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Wrong password? |
| 12:35 |
nengard |
reminder to all -- send me those newsletter article ideas!!! |
| 12:36 |
chris_n |
owen: try /msg munin identify nick password |
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| 12:38 |
owen |
@quote add <chris_n> owen: try /msg munin identify nick password |
| 12:38 |
munin |
owen: The operation succeeded. Quote #73 added. |
| 12:39 |
chris_n |
g'morning jane |
| 12:41 |
jwagner |
Morning (but not much good about it, grump) |
| 12:44 |
* owen |
sends sympathy treats to jwagner |
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| 12:47 |
nengard |
wow: http://koha-community.org/hlt-[…]ssions-with-ptfs/# |
| 12:48 |
* jwagner |
thanks owen |
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| 12:54 |
owen |
What a great write-up. The community chose well when we entrusted the HLT Committee with this task |
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chris_n |
very nice writeup |
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chris_n |
very sad turn of events, however |
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| 13:08 |
magnus |
agreed, chris_n |
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| 13:11 |
sekjal |
@learn sekjal as Ian Walls, ByWater Solutions |
| 13:11 |
munin |
sekjal: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:11 |
nengard |
sekjal what does @ learn do? |
| 13:12 |
sekjal |
@factiods random |
| 13:12 |
munin |
sekjal: Error: "factiods" is not a valid command. |
| 13:12 |
sekjal |
errr |
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@factoids random |
| 13:12 |
munin |
sekjal: "open-source": open-source; "koha": koha-community.org; "zebra": the bane of our existence |
| 13:12 |
sekjal |
learn adds to this list, apparently |
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| 13:13 |
sekjal |
thought I'd catch up on the last few hours of IRC chatter, and found the @ learn gem. also, apparently, munin has games |
| 13:14 |
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@factoids munin |
| 13:14 |
munin |
sekjal: Error: The "Factoids" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "munin" in it. Try "list Factoids" to see the commands in the "Factoids" plugin. |
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| 13:16 |
owen |
@factoids sekjal |
| 13:16 |
munin |
owen: Error: The "Factoids" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "sekjal" in it. Try "list Factoids" to see the commands in the "Factoids" plugin. |
| 13:16 |
owen |
? |
| 13:16 |
sekjal |
I guess I'm not a command |
| 13:16 |
gmcharlt |
@help factoids |
| 13:16 |
munin |
gmcharlt: Error: There is no command "factoids". |
| 13:16 |
gmcharlt |
@list Factoids |
| 13:16 |
munin |
gmcharlt: change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, search, unlock, and whatis |
| 13:16 |
owen |
How do you retrieve a factoid then? |
| 13:16 |
gmcharlt |
@whatis sekjal |
| 13:16 |
munin |
gmcharlt: "sekjal" could be Ian Walls, ByWater Solutions |
| 13:17 |
sekjal |
there we go. neat |
| 13:18 |
owen |
@learn cormorant as The common cormorant or shag Lays eggs inside a paper bag |
| 13:18 |
munin |
owen: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:18 |
owen |
@whatis cormorant |
| 13:18 |
munin |
owen: "cormorant" could be The common cormorant or shag Lays eggs inside a paper bag |
| 13:18 |
sekjal |
@whatis git |
| 13:18 |
munin |
sekjal: Error: No factoid matches that key. |
| 13:21 |
sekjal |
@whatis munin |
| 13:21 |
munin |
sekjal: "munin" could be supybot http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/commands.html |
| 13:22 |
gmcharlt |
@learn munin purveyor of all wisdom |
| 13:22 |
munin |
gmcharlt: Invalid arguments for learn. |
| 13:22 |
sekjal |
@learn munin as your chatbot play who's fun to be with |
| 13:22 |
munin |
sekjal: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:22 |
gmcharlt |
@help learn |
| 13:22 |
munin |
gmcharlt: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 13:22 |
gmcharlt |
ah |
| 13:22 |
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@learn munin as purveyor of all wisdom |
| 13:22 |
munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:22 |
sekjal |
@help forget |
| 13:22 |
munin |
sekjal: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 13:22 |
gmcharlt |
@whatis munin |
| 13:22 |
munin |
gmcharlt: "munin" could be (#1) supybot http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/commands.html, or (#2) your chatbot play who's fun to be with, or (#3) purveyor of all wisdom |
| 13:23 |
gmcharlt |
@list Factoids |
| 13:23 |
munin |
gmcharlt: change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, search, unlock, and whatis |
| 13:23 |
sekjal |
I really need to drink more coffee before attempting to type |
| 13:23 |
gmcharlt |
@Help forget |
| 13:23 |
munin |
gmcharlt: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 13:23 |
gmcharlt |
@help forget |
| 13:23 |
munin |
gmcharlt: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 13:23 |
gmcharlt |
@help info |
| 13:23 |
munin |
gmcharlt: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 13:23 |
gmcharlt |
@help Factoids forget |
| 13:23 |
munin |
gmcharlt: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 13:23 |
gmcharlt |
hmm |
| 13:23 |
chris |
@forget munin 1 |
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munin |
chris: The operation succeeded. |
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chris |
@whatis munin |
| 13:23 |
munin |
chris: "munin" could be (#1) your chatbot play who's fun to be with, or (#2) purveyor of all wisdom |
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| 13:24 |
sekjal |
@forget munin 1 |
| 13:24 |
munin |
sekjal: The operation succeeded. |
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nengard |
@learn nengard as Nicole C. Engard, ByWater Solutions/Koha Doc Manager |
| 13:24 |
munin |
nengard: The operation succeeded. |
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chris_n |
lol |
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| 13:24 |
sekjal |
@learn munin as your chatbot pal who's fun to be with |
| 13:24 |
munin |
sekjal: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:25 |
chris_n |
@factoid random |
| 13:25 |
munin |
chris_n: Error: "factoid" is not a valid command. |
| 13:25 |
chris_n |
@Factoid random |
| 13:25 |
munin |
chris_n: Error: "Factoid" is not a valid command. |
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| 13:25 |
chris_n |
@Factoid |
| 13:25 |
munin |
chris_n: Error: "Factoid" is not a valid command. |
| 13:25 |
chris_n |
@Factoids |
| 13:25 |
munin |
chris_n: Error: "Factoids" is not a valid command. |
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* chris_n |
gives up |
| 13:26 |
sekjal |
@factoids |
| 13:26 |
munin |
sekjal: Error: "factoids" is not a valid command. |
| 13:26 |
sekjal |
@factoids random |
| 13:26 |
munin |
sekjal: "cormorant": The common cormorant or shag Lays eggs inside a paper bag; "munin": purveyor of all wisdom; "nengard": Nicole C. Engard, ByWater Solutions/Koha Doc Manager |
| 13:27 |
chris_n |
@whatis |
| 13:27 |
munin |
chris_n: (whatis [<channel>] <key> [<number>]) -- Looks up the value of <key> in the factoid database. If given a number, will return only that exact factoid. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
| 13:27 |
chris_n |
@whatis fortnight |
| 13:27 |
munin |
chris_n: Error: No factoid matches that key. |
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| 13:44 |
owen |
Is anyone familiar with a (fairly) recent change in Koha to allow renewals to be recorded with a branch code in the statistics table? |
| 13:48 |
sekjal |
owen: not just yet, but I could get familiar |
| 13:48 |
owen |
sekjal: At one time some renewals were recorded in the statistics table with no branch. I think it was renewals from the OPAC |
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My statistics aren't showing those branchless stats anymore, so I'm assuming it was fixed. |
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I'm just curious about what the fix did |
| 13:50 |
brendan |
@Games eightball should I have breakfast yet? |
| 13:50 |
munin |
brendan: NO. |
| 13:50 |
owen |
@Games eightball Did I have breakfast yet? |
| 13:50 |
munin |
owen: You're kidding, right? |
| 13:51 |
owen |
What, do I have powdered sugar on my face or something? |
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@Games eightball Will my stats all add up this time? |
| 13:52 |
munin |
owen: _I_ don't know. |
| 13:52 |
gmcharlt |
@eightball will people play with munin all day today? |
| 13:52 |
munin |
gmcharlt: Naturally. |
| 13:52 |
brendan |
:) |
| 13:53 |
* jwagner |
thinks there's too much fun going on. Back to work! |
| 13:53 |
sekjal |
owen: not seeing anything in the code of opac-renew.pl about branchcode specifically |
| 13:55 |
schuster |
jwagner cracking the whip feels sorry for jdavidb... but would love to see 3.2 in beta release! So I'm with her! |
| 13:56 |
* jdavidb |
fears jwagner's whip. |
| 13:56 |
* jwagner |
is not really that fearsome. Just grumpy today. |
| 13:57 |
jwagner |
Actually, I could use some input on an idea I had if there are any XSLT experts around. We've talked about, and there is some provision for, having .css stylesheets live on a separate server & be called via syspref. |
| 13:58 |
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Would it be possible to put alternate copies of the XSLT stylesheets on a separate server & have them called via syspref the same way? |
| 13:58 |
* owen |
boggles that his statistics actually added up this time! |
| 13:58 |
jwagner |
That way, sites could customize what fields they want to display without mucking up their system with local code customizations. |
| 13:58 |
owen |
jwagner: I don't know, but I like the idea! |
| 13:59 |
sekjal |
jwagner: that'd be a good idea. Or allow folks to upload .css, .js and .xsl files to a local directory, then have dropdowns to select from those available |
| 13:59 |
jwagner |
Probably 60% of the customization requests I get are "why can't I display _this_ field in my OPAC?" |
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I didn't know if there was anything funky about XSLT as opposed to .css files that would need it on the same server. |
| 14:00 |
owen |
The other 40% is "Can you make the book covers dance to the 'Peanut Butter Jelly' song" |
| 14:00 |
jwagner |
owen, haven't had that one yet (thank goodness) but have had some equally wierd ones.... |
| 14:01 |
* chris_n |
thinks animated gifs |
| 14:01 |
sekjal |
owen: looking at opac-renew.pl further, I'm seeing the call to AddRenewal is missing the $branch parameter |
| 14:02 |
* owen |
should have checked when he was renewing books this morning |
| 14:02 |
wizzyrea |
jwagner that's a great idea |
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afk one minute :P] |
| 14:02 |
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and good morning |
| 14:03 |
jwagner |
Hmmmm. I might do some poking at the XSLT thing then, unless someone knows of a techie reason why it wouldn't work. |
| 14:04 |
owen |
sekjal: Indeed, I just renewed an item from the OPAC and the line in statistics has a NULL branch. |
| 14:05 |
jwagner |
The main concern I can think of is version updates to the main XSLT files wouldn't get reflected over. |
| 14:05 |
owen |
I wonder if my check for NULL branch is not working as I thought it was |
| 14:07 |
sekjal |
the line of code in opac-renewal.pl was added before the changes to the AddRenewal function in C4/Circulation that dealt with branch |
| 14:07 |
* sekjal |
loves git-blame |
| 14:08 |
* owen |
too except when it blames him |
| 14:08 |
owen |
count of NULL branch renewals in 2009 stats: 0. Count in 2010 stats: 8113. |
| 14:10 |
wizzyrea |
jwagner: that's the problem with any customizations like that I think |
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but easier to deal with than if they are THE templates you use |
| 14:11 |
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you can always fall back to the defaults if they are better than your custom changes |
| 14:11 |
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can someone point me to a *good* guide to how xslt ^*#@&(% works? |
| 14:12 |
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I've been looking off and on for two years and still haven't found one that resonates enough for me to understand |
| 14:13 |
jwagner |
wizzyrea, I haven't either. We have someone in house who speaks it (not in the Koha group) and I've picked his brain a few times. Also have used http://www.w3schools.com/Xsl/default.asp |
| 14:14 |
owen |
sekjal: Going through my old email, I see an email from Ryan Higgins that says there is a "statistics table fix script" which might include a routine to backfill empty branch in stats |
| 14:14 |
wizzyrea |
jwagner: i will take a look at that, it looks familiar but I may have been seeking answers instead of learning the last time I looked at it. |
| 14:15 |
jwagner |
Mostly I've learned by looking at how other sections work, then copying & trying to adapt. |
| 14:15 |
wizzyrea |
I tried that, but failed (miserably) and then I gave up for a while. |
| 14:15 |
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(other things to do_) |
| 14:16 |
jwagner |
Always. |
| 14:17 |
collum |
Here's another. http://www.learn-xslt-tutorial.com/ |
| 14:17 |
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xslt just seems like too much code for the result. IMO. |
| 14:17 |
schuster |
jwagner and nengard - I was looking at bug 4377 |
| 14:17 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4377 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, cannot confirm hold due to missing letter |
| 14:18 |
nengard |
yes? |
| 14:18 |
schuster |
I see jwagner sent a patch but it wasn't "accepted yet"... |
| 14:18 |
nengard |
k |
| 14:19 |
schuster |
Just wondering if it looks like it would resolve the issue and we should remind gmcharlt it was there? |
| 14:19 |
jwagner |
He knows it's there -- I asked him to check the structure when I sent it in. Probably hasn't had a chance to get to it yet. |
| 14:19 |
nengard |
it was a pretty recent patch which is why it hasn't gone in there yet, but it will solve the problem - it will also solve the problem if you add an empty template yourself :) |
| 14:19 |
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using the notices interface |
| 14:20 |
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under tools |
| 14:20 |
schuster |
Desperately trying to figure out a way to help move 3.2 along. |
| 14:20 |
jwagner |
Yes, as long as it's named HOLD_PRINT |
| 14:20 |
owen |
schuster: You could try dispatching someone to gmcharlt's office to apply shoulder and neck massages? |
| 14:21 |
gmcharlt |
and combat other nuisacnes |
| 14:21 |
jwagner |
Or send large quantities of liquor, chocolate, and gourmet cat food via fedex? |
| 14:21 |
gmcharlt |
at any rate, expect good news by the time of the community meeting next wednesday |
| 14:22 |
* owen |
needs to iron out some conflicts on a patch to send... |
| 14:22 |
jwagner |
What is the time of that meeting? |
| 14:22 |
* jwagner |
can loan owen an ironing board |
| 14:22 |
* owen |
thinks I can haz topic plz? |
| 14:24 |
jwagner |
I did look at http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]rc_meetings:start but I don't see one for next week. |
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| 14:28 |
miguel |
hi all |
| 14:29 |
schuster |
I saw on jransoms post - Committee would like to call a community handover meeting on 4 May 2010 at 19:00 UTC+0... but that is a community handover not a development meeting. |
| 14:31 |
* owen |
wishes Google Calendar would interpret "19:00 UTC+0" for me |
| 14:32 |
* jwagner |
can't remember -- are we on Eastern Standard or Eastern Daylight time now? |
| 14:32 |
wizzyrea |
we are CDT |
| 14:33 |
owen |
http://www.wolframalpha.com/in[…]t+19%3A00+UTC%2B0 |
| 14:33 |
rhcl |
jwagner said: "Or send large quantities of liquor, chocolate, and gourmet cat food via fedex" |
| 14:34 |
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rhcl asks: "Does gourmet cat food taste good?" |
| 14:34 |
* collum |
loves wolframalpha.com - http://www.wolframalpha.com/in[…]hat+is+a+hospital |
| 14:34 |
rhcl |
or maybe it does after large quantities of liquor and chocolate |
| 14:34 |
schuster |
The last meeting run by gmcharlt minutes states - 19:00 UTC+0 on 5 May |
| 14:35 |
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So we have 2 meetings possibly next week? |
| 14:35 |
jwagner |
rhcl, one way to gmcharlt's heart is through his cats' stomachs :-) |
| 14:35 |
gmcharlt |
schuster: yep, two meetings |
| 14:36 |
chris_n |
lol collum :) |
| 14:36 |
jwagner |
gmcharlt, which is when? |
| 14:36 |
gmcharlt |
general on wednesday, community on teusday |
| 14:36 |
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both 19:00 UTC+0 |
| 14:39 |
wizzyrea |
what does this mean: xmlns:items="http://www.koha.org/items" |
| 14:39 |
schuster |
ok to verify 2 pm central 3 pm Eastern - I've missed meetings because I can't convert time well! |
| 14:39 |
wizzyrea |
xml namespace but I don't get it. Gah. I feel dumb. |
| 14:40 |
owen |
schuster: Did that wolframalpha link work for you? That's what I always use |
| 14:46 |
wizzyrea |
collum: I think I'm beginning to see why you say it's too much for the result. |
| 14:46 |
schuster |
Yes I LOVE that link.. that's how I got to the 2 pm central! Thank you owen! That needs to be on each of the agenda pages! |
| 14:46 |
wizzyrea |
it's a lot to wrap your mind around. |
| 14:50 |
schuster |
wizzyrea - have you seen this on any of your reports? - bug 2281 |
| 14:50 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2281 critical, P3, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, ASSIGNED, holds queue report including unavailable items |
| 14:50 |
owen |
Are there any contenders for alternatives to xslt? |
| 14:51 |
wizzyrea |
I don't believe we've seen that, no |
| 14:55 |
schuster |
wizzyrea - since I know you all use holds quite a bit could you check with a couple of your busy libraries? Then maybe we could close this bug? It is almost 2 years old... |
| 14:55 |
wizzyrea |
I just asked sharon, we don't see this bug |
| 14:56 |
* owen |
hasn't heard any reports of this |
| 14:57 |
wizzyrea |
close it, we can reopen if needed |
| 14:58 |
schuster |
gmcharlt - ok with me doing this? |
| 14:58 |
gmcharlt |
schuster: yep |
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| 15:02 |
schuster |
done thanks - always freaks me out after you commit in bugszilla that it jumps to the next bug and I think I messed something up! |
| 15:03 |
gmcharlt |
schuster: that's just how bugzilla hands out your next assignment :) |
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schuster |
Unfortunately I can't handle the assignments! Guess that's when you start looking for money to pay someone to fix it for you so you can close it and get some glory... |
| 15:04 |
joetho |
@learn MUNIN: "Another busy day at the office!" |
| 15:04 |
munin |
joetho: Invalid arguments for learn. |
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joetho |
@learn MUNIN: Another busy day at the office! |
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munin |
joetho: Invalid arguments for learn. |
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joetho |
@learn munin Another busy day at the office! |
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munin |
joetho: Invalid arguments for learn. |
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joetho |
well durn it |
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oh I know ALL about making invalid arguments. Ask my daughters. |
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sigh. back to work. |
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schuster |
bug requesting feedback - bug 3344 |
| 15:08 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3344 critical, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, ASSIGNED, Hold priority list needs additional status for items assigned but not waiting |
| 15:13 |
schuster |
nengard - bug 4320 looks to be included in bug 4151 can we close? |
| 15:13 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4320 blocker, P5, ---, nengardgmail.com, NEW, Module Text::CSV::Encoded not present in INSTALL instructions |
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04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4151 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, ASSIGNED, Document new perl modules for those upgrading |
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nengard |
will read and combine |
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nengard |
oh - this is assigned to me - i don't know about this - or how to do this - so yes closing 4151 |
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no |
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closing 4320 |
| 15:16 |
schuster |
Thanks! that's 1 blocker down the tube and 1 critical! |
| 15:17 |
wizzyrea |
re bug 3344, when last I looked at that, it was a very good improvement |
| 15:17 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3344 critical, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, ASSIGNED, Hold priority list needs additional status for items assigned but not waiting |
| 15:17 |
wizzyrea |
dk if gmcharlt has done more on it or not |
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| 15:19 |
schuster |
Can someone with 3.2 alpha test this and comment? bug 4116 |
| 15:19 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4116 critical, P5, ---, henridamienkoha-fr.org, ASSIGNED, results from cataloging search is different from advanced search results |
| 15:19 |
wizzyrea |
yep one mome nt |
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so this is opac vs. cataloging search, right? |
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just want to make sure i'm testing the right thing. |
| 15:20 |
schuster |
Looks like Advanced search in cataloging from what I read. |
| 15:20 |
owen |
standard staff client search vs. search from cataloging page I think |
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wizzyrea |
k |
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CGI558 |
greetings everyone |
| 15:21 |
wizzyrea |
mine are the same |
| 15:21 |
CGI558 |
i have a question about my marc framework |
| 15:21 |
wizzyrea |
good morning |
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http://screencast.com/t/ODZjZmNjYjU cataloging search |
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http://screencast.com/t/OTgzMzk1NTA regular search |
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let me try one more place |
| 15:23 |
schuster |
what did you search? |
| 15:23 |
wizzyrea |
bear |
| 15:23 |
CGI558 |
made the marc bibliografic framework test and i got these error: biblio y biblionumber The biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber fields be mapped to a MARC subfield, |
| 15:23 |
schuster |
Ah. |
| 15:23 |
owen |
wizzyrea: that second link isn't the right thing |
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wizzyrea |
Search link above |
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http://screencast.com/t/NDY5NTZjM2Et |
| 15:24 |
schuster |
what happens if you truncate the search do you get the same thing? |
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wizzyrea |
1s lemme check |
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http://screencast.com/t/NzYwMzIx |
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http://screencast.com/t/ZmRlNGJkNj |
| 15:27 |
owen |
nengard: did you ever file a bug for the frameworks deletion problem from the other day? |
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wizzyrea |
all of them look consistent to me |
| 15:28 |
nengard |
owen - no because i haven't re-tested to see if i can make it happen again |
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i've been out of town and now i'm just trying to catch up |
| 15:28 |
owen |
nengard: I observe the same problem. I suspect thd is right about the cause |
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wizzyrea |
I think TD found an issue there, was in email |
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I've seen it too |
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but a while ago |
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nengard |
owen do you want to report it or should I? |
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wizzyrea |
it's really only something that comes up when you're first setting up a system |
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owen |
nengard: I'll do it since I'm looking at it atm |
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nengard |
thanks |
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sekjal |
@learn LDAP as a wicked pain to get working |
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munin |
sekjal: The operation succeeded. |
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slef |
yengh |
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wizzyrea |
hi slef |
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slef |
today not brill here - how about there? |
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gmcharlt |
sunny day in florida |
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slef |
@wunder Weston-super-Mare Somerset |
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munin |
slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 12.9�C (4:30 PM BST on April 29, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:36 |
slef |
that sums it up here |
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even if munin miscapitalises the placename |
| 15:38 |
owen |
Bug 4424 |
| 15:38 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4424 normal, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, MARC Framework deletion incorrectly reports usage count |
| 15:38 |
wizzyrea |
@factoids zebra |
| 15:38 |
munin |
wizzyrea: Error: The "Factoids" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "zebra" in it. Try "list Factoids" to see the commands in the "Factoids" plugin. |
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wizzyrea |
@list Factoids |
| 15:38 |
munin |
wizzyrea: change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, search, unlock, and whatis |
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wizzyrea |
@Factoids random |
| 15:39 |
munin |
wizzyrea: "munin": purveyor of all wisdom; "cormorant": The common cormorant or shag Lays eggs inside a paper bag; "light-speed": 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight |
| 15:39 |
owen |
@whatis zebra |
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munin |
owen: "zebra" could be the bane of our existence |
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slef |
furlongs per fortnight? |
| 15:39 |
kf |
I hope not |
| 15:41 |
schuster |
Since we are on a roll - wizzyrea can you check this one bug 4201 |
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munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4201 blocker, P5, ---, ian.wallsbywatersolutions.com, ASSIGNED, Holds priority listings assigning large numbers |
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wizzyrea |
no, this isn't fixed |
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schuster |
drat... |
| 15:41 |
wizzyrea |
sekjal wrote a script to correct the problem |
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but the root is still there |
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whatever it is. |
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* wizzyrea |
suspects simultaneous processing of holds |
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wizzyrea |
as the root cause of that |
| 15:42 |
sekjal |
bug 4201 and what you're experiencing, wizzyrea, are a little different, I think |
| 15:42 |
wizzyrea |
I'm not really convinced that they aren't caused by the same thing though. |
| 15:42 |
schuster |
ah I remember an IRC discussion one day about this with you and Sharon doing simultaneous holds |
| 15:43 |
kf |
import problems solved in first library, tidy up second tomorrow *tired* |
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bye #koha |
| 15:43 |
wizzyrea |
it's different behavior, that's true |
| 15:43 |
sekjal |
well, my patch to bug 4201 solves part of it |
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| 15:43 |
sekjal |
doesn't address simulatenous holds, though |
| 15:43 |
wizzyrea |
that's the corrective script, right? |
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* wizzyrea |
goes to read, haven't looked lately |
| 15:44 |
sekjal |
I've published both a patch to the bug, and a cleanup script |
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wizzyrea |
oh I missed the patch, sorry |
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so sorry |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: no worries :) |
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I still want to figure out how to handle simulatenous holds |
| 15:45 |
wizzyrea |
yea, that's a huge deal in a 31, soon to be 33 library shared collection consortium |
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they all process holds at the same time, every day |
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| 15:46 |
schuster |
So do we need to create another bug for that? - simultaneous holds? |
| 15:47 |
sekjal |
schuster: in my opinion, yes. |
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the huge holds priority numbers has been solved by fixing some bad SQL |
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or, at least that's what I've seen |
| 15:49 |
wizzyrea |
that's done schuster |
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bug 4373 |
| 15:49 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4373 major, P2, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Placing and Processing Items Simultaneously causes multiple issues |
| 15:49 |
schuster |
Ah ok - haven't gone through the "major" ones yet! |
| 15:50 |
wizzyrea |
I"m not sure that this one shouldn't be more critical, but I think it will take more time than we have for 3.2 |
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plus $$ |
| 15:50 |
schuster |
so 4201 could be closed - sekjal and wizzyrea? |
| 15:50 |
wizzyrea |
I defer to sekjal |
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owen |
wizzyrea if you're not careful I'm going to assign Bug 2780 to you :P |
| 15:50 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, REOPENED, capitalizing strings |
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* wizzyrea |
sobs |
| 15:51 |
sekjal |
I believe that my patch and cleanup script solve bug 4201, but having more folks test that to confirm would probably be a good idea |
| 15:51 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4201 blocker, P5, ---, ian.wallsbywatersolutions.com, ASSIGNED, Holds priority listings assigning large numbers |
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jdavidb |
Don't be mean to wizzyrea, owen! |
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* owen |
couldn't possibly, not while #koha has her back |
| 15:53 |
wizzyrea |
aw |
| 15:54 |
schuster |
If I only understood what that bug is talking about HA HA HA.... |
| 15:55 |
wizzyrea |
sekjal: it's looking good from here |
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though look at this: |
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http://screencast.com/t/NjZiYTFmZG |
| 15:59 |
sekjal |
do you know what the priority number is for that last patron? I mean, as it reads in the database? |
| 15:59 |
wizzyrea |
lemme look |
| 15:59 |
schuster |
it's that custom code nekls has... ;) |
| 15:59 |
wizzyrea |
no, darlings, this is latest 3.2 head ;) |
| 16:00 |
schuster |
oh sorry... I'm done for today so will go sit in the corner and read a book... :0 |
| 16:00 |
owen |
That's what us librarians do all day long anyway isn't it schuster? |
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| 16:02 |
wizzyrea |
sekjal: priority 15 on a bib with 7 holds |
| 16:02 |
sekjal |
ewww, that's bad |
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that sounds like bug 4201 |
| 16:03 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4201 blocker, P5, ---, ian.wallsbywatersolutions.com, ASSIGNED, Holds priority listings assigning large numbers |
| 16:03 |
wizzyrea |
BUT. you might take a look near the code that has to do with the pick up branch |
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when the pickup branch is different from the patron's home, it seems to do this |
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the other thing |
| 16:04 |
sekjal |
hmmm... |
| 16:04 |
wizzyrea |
is we were placing holds fast/furious at the same time on this bib |
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6 and this one might have been placed at nearly the same time |
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but I do know that frances has a different pick up branch than the branch I was placing the hold at |
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so I favor that theory |
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(the pickup branch mucks it up theory) |
| 16:06 |
schuster |
speaking of holds when wizzyrea has a minute would you look at but 2655 and indicate if it is resolved? |
| 16:07 |
owen |
Bug 2655 has not been resolved to my knowledge |
| 16:07 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2655 blocker, P2, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Items waiting on the hold shelf display as "Available" in OPAC |
| 16:08 |
wizzyrea |
not sure, is this what you're talking about? http://screencast.com/t/NjZiYTFmZG |
| 16:08 |
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er |
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http://screencast.com/t/NjJkN2YzMT |
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2nd, sorry |
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I forget to wait until it says "ok, done, paste it fool" |
| 16:09 |
schuster |
phewy... have you noticed I'm using different words each time I hit a roadblock? |
| 16:11 |
wizzyrea |
if that's what you're talking about then it looks like it's right to me? |
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http://screencast.com/t/NjJkN2YzMT |
| 16:13 |
schuster |
Yep wizzyrea - not fixed. |
| 16:13 |
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No it says AVAILABLE still on the item list. |
| 16:13 |
chris_n |
patches flow like water today :) |
| 16:16 |
owen |
What can we do? schuster is cracking the whip! |
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| 16:18 |
brendan |
would be nice to have bugs.koha-communtity.org kicking |
| 16:21 |
nengard |
got a question -- does anyone know what libraries are using RFID & Koha - wizzyrea was it your libraries? I know there are some out there - I just can't think of the names |
| 16:21 |
jwagner |
I believe one of ours is -- Middletown Township Public Library. Not sure of specifics. |
| 16:21 |
schuster |
I know South Central is going to when they go live. |
| 16:23 |
nengard |
thanks guys |
| 16:23 |
schuster |
my work here is now done for today... I hope it spurred some development... I have a few things I'm working on but they will probably be 3.4... |
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I just know there are a lot of things hinging on 3.2 right now. |
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chris_n |
schuster++ #for stirring up patches :) |
| 16:32 |
slef |
nengard: I know some of ours are. |
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nengard: most open is CAMLIS who ran the open day. |
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nengard: 3M-compatible self-issue machine still causes us problems. |
| 16:33 |
nengard |
thanks slef |
| 16:42 |
wizzyrea |
yep, basehor is using 3m RFID |
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wizzyrea |
jwagner thanks for the xslt tip... It's kind of, sort of, maybe sinking in a little. |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, then you're doing better than I am :-) |
| 17:04 |
wizzyrea |
heh |
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| 17:05 |
brendan |
is Kyle Hall's patch, Fines System Updates - Code Cleanup & Additional Features slated to make into 3.2 ? |
| 17:07 |
gmcharlt |
no, that's rather a bit extensive for 3.2, plus there's a counterpatch for partial payments floating out there as well |
| 17:07 |
brendan |
thanks - do you know who sent the counter patch ? |
| 17:08 |
gmcharlt |
Colin, IIRC |
| 17:09 |
brendan |
thanks will look |
| 17:10 |
jwagner |
FYI, Colin's partial payment is our Bug 3498 |
| 17:10 |
munin |
04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3498 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kohaprogrammersptfs.com, NEW, Allow partial fine payments |
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| 17:23 |
brendan |
@Games eightball will partial payments make it into 3.2? |
| 17:23 |
munin |
brendan: Obviously. |
| 17:23 |
brendan |
there you go gmcharlt |
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patch away according to munin |
| 17:23 |
gmcharlt |
@eightball will munin be the 3.6 release manager? |
| 17:23 |
munin |
gmcharlt: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing! |
| 17:23 |
gmcharlt |
just as well |
| 17:24 |
brendan |
munin for president! |
| 17:24 |
munin |
brendan: Error: "for" is not a valid command. |
| 17:26 |
brendan |
@Games eightball does munin have a clue? |
| 17:26 |
munin |
brendan: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing! |
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| 17:32 |
DRUlm |
What is happening in Koha world? |
| 17:32 |
jwagner |
So now we know how to distract munin -- just wave shiny things around :-) |
| 17:35 |
slef |
DRUlm: http://koha-community.org/hlt-[…]ssions-with-ptfs/ |
| 17:35 |
DRUlm |
Oh yeah, just read it. I think. |
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| 17:39 |
DRUlm |
Yes, I did read that. |
| 17:40 |
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I think there could be some positive moves happening, on both sides. |
| 17:40 |
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It looks like it is all a matter of how it will happen. |
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If not, everyone may start jumping over to Evergreen ;) |
| 17:40 |
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This is how open source works. Too much infighting and everyone just goes to the competitor. |
| 17:41 |
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Probably in the interest of both parties to come together. But the future will show the evidence of what will happen - could go either way. |
| 17:41 |
nengard |
I don't see it as fighting |
| 17:41 |
DRUlm |
Good! |
| 17:42 |
nengard |
I see it as the community governing itself |
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the community was around before us support companies and communities are the pillar of open source |
| 17:42 |
DRUlm |
Great, then everyone will be free to be you and me |
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Be nice to see the code come together, and likely would be good for both parties - I mean, who wants to invest resources to support 2 code bases? |
| 17:44 |
slef |
No-one. LL pretty much forced us to and we're still recovering. |
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cait |
hi koha |
| 17:45 |
slef |
hi cait |
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| 17:45 |
DRUlm |
Historically, that is costly, and if the branch is not *really* open source, then why not just run something proprietary since there are many choices. If I am not able to change the code anyway, I would just go with a proprietary and get all the bells and whistles - whoever has the most. But the open source advantage is total *local* flexibility, but if it isn't really *open* then I would go with a proprietary. |
| 17:46 |
slef |
Now that's just confusing. What do you mean by "really open"? |
| 17:46 |
DRUlm |
Many feel the same way. |
| 17:47 |
gmcharlt |
DRUlm: that's assumes that that only advance of open source software is the flexibility - but there are plenty of cases where F/OSS software is better than its proprietary equivalents in terms of its external functionality, and vice versa |
| 17:48 |
slef |
Ours has always been open (FOSS) to our clients, but maintaining a clean-for-publication branch lagged and still isn't complete. We'll probably just junk part of it eventually. |
| 17:49 |
* chris_n |
wonders who the antecedent to 'many' is? |
| 17:49 |
DRUlm |
cmgharlt: I am not assuming that, I am playing the devils advocate. |
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I am in agreement w/ you. |
| 17:52 |
gmcharlt |
DRUlm: yep, I was addressing the statement |
| 17:55 |
DRUlm |
Cool. Good things may happen. |
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See ya |
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* chris_n |
wonders what that was all about |
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| 17:58 |
brendan |
@Games coin |
| 17:58 |
munin |
brendan: heads |
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chris_n |
@Games coin |
| 17:59 |
munin |
chris_n: tails |
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gmcharlt |
boring game, try this: |
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@marc 505 |
| 18:00 |
munin |
gmcharlt: The titles of separate works or parts of an item or the table of contents. The field may also contain statements of responsibility and volume numbers or other sequential designations. (Repeatable) [a,g,r,t,u,6,8] |
| 18:00 |
gmcharlt |
;) |
| 18:00 |
slef |
gmcharlt: big red error on http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]illa3/reports.cgi |
| 18:01 |
jwagner |
gmcharlt, and MARC _isn't_ boring??? |
| 18:01 |
* collum |
is curious as to what other Games there are. |
| 18:01 |
brendan |
@marc 691 |
| 18:01 |
munin |
brendan: unknown tag 691 |
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jdavidb |
@marc 785 |
| 18:01 |
munin |
jdavidb: Information concerning the immediate successor to the target item (chronological relationship). When a note is generated from this field, the introductory phrase may be generated based on the value in the second indicator position for display. (Repeatable) [b,c,d,g,h,i,k,m,n,o,r,s,t,u,w,x,y,z,6,7,8] |
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gmcharlt |
@list Games |
| 18:01 |
munin |
gmcharlt: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette |
| 18:01 |
slef |
@marc 952 |
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munin |
slef: unknown tag 952 |
| 18:01 |
slef |
someone teach munin Koha ;-) |
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jwagner |
@monologue |
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munin |
jwagner: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long. |
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slef |
@marc 785$c |
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munin |
slef: unknown tag 785$c |
| 18:01 |
gmcharlt |
@marc 785 c |
| 18:01 |
munin |
gmcharlt: Qualifying information |
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jdavidb |
@Games roulette |
| 18:02 |
munin |
jdavidb: *click* |
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slef |
@roulette |
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munin |
slef: *click* |
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* jdavidb |
raises an eyebrow |
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slef |
jdavidb: never plaid russian roulette? |
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jdavidb |
oh! Russian roulette. |
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* collum |
is waiting for a loud boom |
| 18:02 |
slef |
played even |
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collum: your turn |
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collum |
@Games roulette |
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munin |
collum: *click* |
| 18:03 |
gmcharlt |
slef: guess the relevant graphics libs weren't reinstalled when the LL-hosted things were moved a week or so ago |
| 18:03 |
* jdavidb |
has a list of people to suggest handing the pistol to... |
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chris_n |
hehe |
| 18:03 |
slef |
jdavidb: if it goes bang on the first PTFSer, can we blame karma? |
| 18:04 |
jdavidb |
@karma PTFS |
| 18:04 |
munin |
jdavidb: Karma for "PTFS" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 18:04 |
slef |
PTFS-- |
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let's correct that |
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* jdavidb |
, being non-autonomous, remains mute. |
| 18:04 |
slef |
jdavidb: looks like your turn... |
| 18:05 |
brendan |
@Games roulette |
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munin |
*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
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* munin |
reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 18:05 |
brendan |
ouch |
| 18:05 |
slef |
I think non-autonomous workers should be illegal, but I'm just an aging leftie. |
| 18:05 |
nengard |
okay - did I read the backlog right? munin knows marc?? |
| 18:05 |
* jwagner |
thought there was a gentleperson's agreement about not attacking us personally? |
| 18:05 |
slef |
jwagner: munin is not a person. |
| 18:06 |
chris_n |
PTFS++ # for at least having the wisdom to hire jdavidb && jwagner |
| 18:06 |
jdavidb |
kinda-sorta, nengard. It doesn't seem to know it very well. |
| 18:06 |
nengard |
that's kind of cool |
| 18:06 |
slef |
useful to know, indeed |
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sekjal-away is now known as sekjal |
| 18:07 |
gmcharlt |
nengard: it's from a supybot plugin that somebody on #code4lib had put together |
| 18:11 |
slef |
@roulette |
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munin |
slef: *click* |
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owen-away is now known as owen |
| 18:12 |
brendan |
slef stays safe again |
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@roulette |
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munin |
*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 18:12 |
* munin |
reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 18:13 |
slef |
brendan: remind me not to swap lucky charms with you. |
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jdavidb |
@roulette |
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munin |
jdavidb: *click* |
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cait |
@roulette |
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munin |
cait: *click* |
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* cait |
surprised |
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jdavidb |
@roulette |
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munin |
jdavidb: *click* |
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* jdavidb |
snaps his fingers. |
| 18:48 |
cait |
@roulette |
| 18:48 |
munin |
cait: *click* |
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magnus |
@roulette |
| 18:49 |
munin |
*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 18:49 |
* munin |
reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 18:49 |
magnus |
ouch |
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wizzyrea |
nooo! not magnus! |
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@roulette |
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munin |
wizzyrea: *click* |
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cait |
@roulette |
| 18:49 |
munin |
cait: *click* |
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* wizzyrea |
high fives cait |
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magnus |
gaaaaahhh... |
| 18:49 |
cait |
:) |
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@games |
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jdavidb |
@coin |
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munin |
jdavidb: tails |
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jdavidb |
hmpf. Thought so. |
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slef |
@roulette |
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munin |
slef: *click* |
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slef |
I think the "blank" comment is because munin would kick if it had ops |
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jdavidb |
heh. That'd be amusing. |
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owen |
If munin had ops at least *someone* could update our topic. |
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slef |
bots and ops is often risky |
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| 19:00 |
slef |
30 minutes until ukgov leaders election debate |
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chris |
morning |
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chris_n |
hi chris |
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cait |
morning chris |
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brendan |
morning chris |
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@roulette |
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munin |
brendan: *click* |
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cait |
@roulette |
| 19:44 |
munin |
cait: *click* |
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collum |
@roulette |
| 19:44 |
munin |
*BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 19:44 |
* munin |
reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 19:48 |
cait |
ok, time to stop playing and go to bed - good night all :) |
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* owen |
find the situation not quite grim enough to play Russian roulette |
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richard |
hi |
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sekjal |
@whatis LDAP |
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munin |
sekjal: "LDAP" could be a wicked pain to get working |
| 20:56 |
chris |
back |
| 20:57 |
richard |
hi chris and sekja |
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brendan |
wb chris |
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richard |
sekjal even :) |
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sekjal |
:) |
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chris |
hi jo |
| 21:12 |
richard |
very interesting article - http://koha-community.org/hlt-[…]ssions-with-ptfs/ |
| 21:13 |
chris |
our waldo friend has chipped in with a comment already |
| 21:20 |
jo |
yes I saw that. |
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I am amzed at the low level response |
| 21:21 |
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don't believe thatthe community doesn't care ... so shocked I guess but good or bad ? |
| 21:22 |
chris |
not sure most people have seen it yet |
| 21:22 |
wizzyrea |
oh we care |
| 21:22 |
jo |
esp in USA |
| 21:22 |
reed |
you cover things pretty nicely in the posting too - so less to clarify by comments |
| 21:22 |
wizzyrea |
^^ what he said |
| 21:22 |
jo |
yeah I forgot that time difference |
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thanks Reed |
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we went for comprehensive and complete rather than short and sweet |
| 21:23 |
reed |
it's an important document |
| 21:23 |
jo |
Hi Liz |
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wizzyrea |
hello jo :) |
| 21:24 |
jo |
Lordy I am so tired my eyeballs feel like sandpaper |
| 21:24 |
chris |
ditto |
| 21:24 |
jo |
you have to be gentle with me today Chris :) |
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and ditto |
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wizzyrea |
thoughts on this? http://koha-community.org/get-[…]d/for-developers/ |
| 21:30 |
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: the searchbox you put in isn't a search of the repos' contents, but of the repos names |
| 21:30 |
wizzyrea |
ah okies ty wil fix |
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will even |
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gmcharlt |
i.e., I suggest getting rid of it |
| 21:31 |
wizzyrea |
done |
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gmcharlt |
and a direct link to http://git.koha-community.org/ somewhere there would be nice |
| 21:31 |
wizzyrea |
yep, wil ldo that too |
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Nate |
gnight #koha! |
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chris |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]April/023637.html |
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so the choice is clear |
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join the ptfs fork |
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s/fork/split |
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fork implies open source |
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or stay with koha |
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i hope libraries chose wisely |
| 22:16 |
chilts |
wizzyrea: I just looked at that page, there's a slight link fix to be made : the 'kohadocs.git' link underneat 'Project' in the table needs a 'git.' at the start |
| 22:16 |
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otherwise, looks awesome :) |
| 22:19 |
larsw |
I've been working on my Debian package for Koha mostly alone, sometimes talking things with chris; would it be welcome if I explain my plans and goals on koha-devel so others could suggest things? |
| 22:20 |
chris |
i wonder if someone should say, the bullying attitude as invinced in this email is a major reason the conference call was declined |
| 22:20 |
reed |
oh, wow, so it's official then - ptfs is stepping away |
| 22:20 |
chris |
yep |
| 22:20 |
reed |
makes the path forward simple enough |
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eythian is now known as robin |
| 22:24 |
gmcharlt |
larsw: go for it |
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in particular, I imagine that there will need to be a debate on the best way to slice and dice the packages to help those who run Koha on split-server configurations |
| 22:26 |
jo |
and the fork is official |
| 22:29 |
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I'm relieved to be honest. |
| 22:29 |
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clear choices to be made |
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open source or not |
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WE just keep doing what we are doing. |
| 22:30 |
chris_n |
jo++ # and more so |
| 22:32 |
reed |
(little gang of us here at cat. chatting it up agreeingly) |
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jo |
hi Nicole |
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nengard |
hi jo |
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just came on to see if anyone else was talking about the real nature of open source |
| 22:52 |
chris |
im too stupid apparently |
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right going to see a demo at larsw desk |
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bbiab |
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nengard |
LOL - no one thinks that - no one who knows a thing about Koha, you, and open source that is |
| 22:53 |
gmcharlt |
chris: please thank larsw for demoing open source for you ;) |
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| 23:02 |
Joann |
hi nicole - sorry having trouble with my PC - i keep locking up |
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nengard |
no prob at all |
| 23:04 |
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am trying to write 2 presentations for tomorrow |
| 23:04 |
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i thought i had the day off!!! -- and by off I mean time to work on my real job |
| 23:07 |
Joann |
hehe |
| 23:07 |
chris |
nice reply from lori |
| 23:08 |
Joann |
the LL - PTFS experience reveals a lot about the true source of open source - |
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and what the community is prepared to defend in ternms of core values and principles |
| 23:09 |
nengard |
I'm editing my book on open source for libraries and it's shocking how many times I say the word 'community' |
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hopefully people learn from what i wrote |
| 23:09 |
chris |
its a good book |
| 23:09 |
nengard |
and it gets drilled into their heads what it's all about |
| 23:10 |
chris |
every library should buy 2 copies |
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:) |
| 23:10 |
nengard |
Thanks chris!!! |
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it has a pretty good foreword if i do say so myself |
| 23:11 |
chris |
hehe |
| 23:11 |
larsw |
free and open source software is all about people. people form communities spontaneously. it's not surprising it's a common word in these contexts. (but I really hate it when someone say "I am going to create a community. I just registered a domain name...") |
| 23:11 |
* mason |
waves from kapiti.... |
| 23:11 |
chris |
hi mason |
| 23:12 |
moodaepo |
nengard++ |
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PTFS-- |
| 23:15 |
chilts |
nengard++ your book looks great :) |
| 23:15 |
nengard |
thanks chilts |
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july 2010 is right around the corner :) that's when it comes out |
| 23:16 |
Joann |
how come they've seen the book? |
| 23:16 |
chilts |
I haven't seen it, just a webpage :) |
| 23:16 |
Joann |
I still havn't manged to buy a copy of the first one yet .. |
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nengard |
Joann - http://opensource.web2learning.net has info on it - that's what they saw - well not chris - he saw the book cause he wrote the foreword so he has to read the book :) |
| 23:25 |
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one presentation done -- one to go :) |
| 23:25 |
chilts |
yeah, that's what I saw :) |
| 23:25 |
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good luck nengard |
| 23:25 |
nengard |
thanks |
| 23:29 |
russ |
Joann: i was away yesterday, got your email and Chris and I are sorting a commitment today |
| 23:30 |
chris |
yep |
| 23:34 |
Joann |
that would be great if you can. its coz its public money and auditors get worried about potential liability etc |
| 23:35 |
chris |
yep |
| 23:36 |
Joann |
you are amazing Nicole... I don't know how you manage to fit so much into your life |
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| 23:37 |
Joann |
chris: thanks |
| 23:37 |
nengard |
Joann - me either :) |
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but as you all saw - when I crash - I really really crash |
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or as you all read/heard :) |
