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| 00:10 | Scott | ironic thats its as quiet as a library in this channel... |
| 00:11 | chris | only us southern hemispherites left |
| 00:11 | the busy time is our night | |
| 01:00 | * chris_n | looks in |
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| 01:22 | Scott | i see... |
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| 02:56 | chris | my fingers twitch everytime i see this page |
| 02:56 | http://koha-community.org/koha[…]ect-organization/ | |
| 02:56 | just itching to change the z to an s :0 | |
| 02:57 | brendan | heh |
| 02:57 | go for it | |
| 02:57 | chris | url is out there now, so too late |
| 02:57 | :) | |
| 03:00 | oh brendan i tried to set up the en_usspecial language | |
| 03:00 | but pootle thwarted me | |
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| 03:18 | Amit_G | heya brendan, chris |
| 03:18 | brendan | heya amit_g |
| 03:19 | chris | heya Amit_G |
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| 04:23 | richard | anyone know how valid is this for getting chinese / korean / japanese in search results - http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ncodingscratchpad |
| 04:23 | in 3.0.6 | |
| 04:24 | chris | i think that is old an out of date |
| 04:24 | richard | ah, thought so |
| 04:24 | chris | its all to do with zebra icu stuff now |
| 04:25 | anthony mao has got it all working | |
| 04:25 | richard | just got a query from a person who reckons that their chinese titles aren't appearing in search results but english ones are |
| 04:25 | chris | lemme see if i can find it |
| 04:25 | richard | cool |
| 04:27 | chris | id point them at |
| 04:27 | http://groups.google.com/group/kohataiwan?pli=1 | |
| 04:28 | richard | thanks chris |
| 04:30 | guess the same things will apply for their Japanese and Korean titles too eh | |
| 04:30 | chris | reckon so |
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| 05:20 | Amit_G | heya nicomo |
| 05:20 | nicomo | hi Amit_G |
| 05:25 | brendan | night all |
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| 05:46 | Ropuch^_ | Morning #koha |
| 05:48 | Amit_G | heya Ropuch |
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| 06:27 | greenmang0 | @wunder mumbai |
| 06:27 | munin | greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (11:10 AM IST on April 27, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:13 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 07:43 | chris | morning |
| 08:05 | Ropuch^_ | Hi kf, chris |
| 08:07 | chris | hiya Ropuch^_ |
| 08:07 | lnts | |
| 08:07 | ltns even | |
| 08:12 | Ropuch^_ | heh |
| 08:15 | CSNE is organizing Congress of Germanologist and I'm doing everything but library related stuff | |
| 08:20 | chris | ahhh |
| 08:25 | Ropuch^_ | If only i had not so much to do at the Library, I would call those activities quite refreshing instead of 'waste of time I don't have' ;> |
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| 09:50 | Amit_G | heya genji |
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| 10:10 | CGI416 | Any Amazon images gurus hanging about in here!? I'm having some trouble |
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| 11:12 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 11:12 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 13.6�C (7:10 AM EDT on April 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986.0 hPa (Rising). |
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| 11:24 | jdavidb | Hello, #koha! :) |
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| 11:35 | chris | hi jdavidb |
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| 11:42 | kf | hi jdavidb and chris |
| 11:42 | chris: do you ever sleep? :) | |
| 11:42 | jdavidb | Hi, chris and kf. :D |
| 11:43 | chris | every now and then kf :) |
| 11:43 | actually i get 7 or so hours in most nights | |
| 11:43 | kf | :) |
| 11:44 | I whish I would | |
| 11:50 | gmcharlt | good morning |
| 11:51 | chris_n | morning #koha |
| 11:52 | jwagner | Morning, all |
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| 12:18 | owen | Hello all |
| 12:24 | jwagner | morning, owen |
| 12:36 | hilongo | Hello owen, jwagner and all :) |
| 12:37 | I have just woke up and smell the coffee :P | |
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| 13:15 | jwagner | owen, still online? |
| 13:15 | owen | All day! |
| 13:16 | jwagner | I just tried an updated head server with your patch and a Syndetics ID from a different server -- still no syndetics content at all. |
| 13:17 | owen | Hmmm.. Okay. I'm hoping it's a problem with my template logic |
| 13:17 | jwagner | I was a little dubious about whether the first ID was still valid, but I doublechecked this one. Works fine on its "real" server, no content at all on the head one. |
| 13:17 | owen | jwagner: I'll try to work on this later today and send you an updated version of the file if you're willing to do more testing |
| 13:18 | jwagner | If jdavidb can apply the patch to our test server. I confess to ignorance in that area.... |
| 13:18 | * chris_n | finds the less his ignorance, the longer his to-do list :) |
| 13:18 | owen | jwagner: I could send you the whole file if that was easier |
| 13:18 | * jwagner | thinks that's why I've been resisting learning it :-) |
| 13:19 | jdavidb | I can apply the patch, yes, where-ever it's needed. |
| 13:19 | jwagner | owen, the whole template file? |
| 13:19 | owen | jwagner: Yes, if the impediment is patch-application but you have access to the test server |
| 13:19 | jwagner | If you send me the whole file, I can set it up as a branch & then copy the file over -- wouldn't need him & he's busy.1 |
| 13:19 | That's probably easier. | |
| 13:22 | I'll be in & out of meetings all day, but will try to squeeze it in. | |
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| 13:34 | schuster | Hello all... |
| 13:35 | owen | Hi schuster |
| 13:35 | jwagner: Do you get "No cover image available" ? | |
| 13:36 | jdavidb | schuster++ |
| 13:38 | jwagner | owen, no -- no indication that any content is in place at all. |
| 13:38 | Same as if syndetics etc. was turned off | |
| 13:39 | owen | jwagner: Could there be a broken image there? (I don't know if your browser would tell you) |
| 13:39 | If you view source and search for "syndetics" can you find an image tag? | |
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| 13:40 | jwagner | No. I don't see anything at all in Firebug and searching source for syndetics doesn't find anything. |
| 13:41 | owen | That's weird. I wouldn't think the change I made would do that... Hm... |
| 13:46 | jwagner | Dunno if it makes a difference -- I've been checking primarily the results list, but have also gone into the detail page on some. No change. |
| 13:47 | owen | jwagner: My patch didn't touch the results page |
| 13:47 | If the results page isn't working you've got a different problem. | |
| 13:47 | jwagner | Well, that might account for it, then. Wonder if the Syndetics ID is IP-limited or something. I copied it from a production server. |
| 13:48 | We haven't had a problem in the past, though, with running Syndetics on test servers. | |
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| 13:50 | jwagner | Nope, just tried the same ID on a different test server (not at current head) and it works fine. Syndetics covers, notes, etc. |
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| 13:53 | owen | jwagner: All *I* changed was opac-detail.tmpl. If you don't see Syndetics content on your opac-results page where you normally would, there must be some other issue going on too |
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| 13:54 | CGI766 | Can anyone help with me with an Amazon images problem, I have been battling it for ages |
| 13:55 | owen | We can try CGI766. What's the problem and what version of Koha are you on? |
| 13:56 | CGI766 | The problem is that I can't get any enchanced content to work. I am hoping for Amazon but Google is the same - just getting the version for you now |
| 13:56 | Version 3.0004019 | |
| 13:57 | I have the AccessKey, PrivateKey and AssocTag entered correctly and all turned on in Admin | |
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| 13:58 | owen | CGI766: Google cover images don't work either? |
| 13:58 | CGI766 | Correct |
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| 13:59 | kmkale | hi all |
| 13:59 | owen | Since Google cover images don't require any kind of authentication, I wonder if you have a firewall issue? |
| 13:59 | jwagner | Have you verified that your records have ISBNs? Both Google & Amazon link on them. |
| 14:00 | owen | jwagner++ |
| 14:00 | CGI766 | What sort of traffic is required outbound? Mind you all my clients are allowed full access to to the internet |
| 14:00 | All records are full, complete MARC records with ISBNs | |
| 14:01 | owen | CGI766: Is your catalog online where we can see an example? |
| 14:01 | CGI766 | not at the moment, but I could put it up there.....will need to change some firewall rules do to it |
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| 14:13 | CGI766 | OWEN - Site externally now, you can view it here - > http://83.141.96.110:8080 |
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| 14:14 | owen | CGI766: Do you have an example record in mind? |
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| 14:14 | CGI766 | Any of them! Try a seach for music |
| 14:15 | owen | CGI766: http://83.141.96.110:8080/cgi-[…]?biblionumber=178 |
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| 14:15 | owen | I see an ISBN, but it's not in the ISBN field |
| 14:15 | It's in 001 when it should be in 020 | |
| 14:16 | If your system maps 020 to biblioitems.isbn then Koha isn't getting any isbn data to use to display book covers | |
| 14:17 | CGI766 | http://172.16.0.44/cgi-bin/koh[…]biblionumber=2473 |
| 14:17 | better example | |
| 14:17 | sorry, that;s the internal address | |
| 14:18 | should be http://83.141.96.110:8080/cgi-[…]biblionumber=2473 | |
| 14:19 | This is even better, no text in the 020: http://83.141.96.110:8080/cgi-[…]biblionumber=2206 | |
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| 14:22 | owen | CGI766: I notice with that record Amazon itself doesn't have a record with that ISBN |
| 14:23 | CGI766 | OK, I'll get one that does, I had a load earlier.....2 mins |
| 14:23 | owen | I also notice that in your OPAC I don't see a "no cover image" box, suggesting to me that Amazon cover images are not turned on |
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| 14:24 | owen | CGI766: As on this page: http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]?biblionumber=159 |
| 14:24 | CGI766 | I know, thought that was strange too, however I can assure you it's on. The cover image appears when Google gets turned on but not Amazon |
| 14:24 | wizzyrea | do you have all of your keys inputted properly? |
| 14:24 | CGI766 | I mean the "no cover image" |
| 14:24 | wizzyrea | someone probably asked that already |
| 14:24 | sometimes something silly like a space at the end can muck it up | |
| 14:24 | CGI766 | Yeah, as far as I can see. Simple copy and paste really |
| 14:25 | wizzyrea | < had that happen once |
| 14:25 | owen | CGI766: I'm also curious about why your detail pages have a broken layout. Have you modified the template? |
| 14:25 | wizzyrea | owen: search.myacpl.org is looking really nice these days :) |
| 14:25 | owen | Thanks! |
| 14:26 | CGI766 | Only by using the UsersCSS and MainUserBlock etc, not directly |
| 14:27 | wizzyrea | yea, the layout does look a little funky :/ |
| 14:28 | just for fun, kick out your CSS and see if it's working | |
| 14:28 | owen | I can't image why, in this page, you have 8 holdings tables listing no items |
| 14:28 | http://83.141.96.110:8080/cgi-[…]biblionumber=2206 | |
| 14:29 | wizzyrea | and good morning |
| 14:29 | :) | |
| 14:30 | schuster | owen - I see on http://www.myacpl.org/kids - you have rotating kids covers on the left. Is that a seperate "special" css you created? |
| 14:31 | owen | schuster: That's built in PHP, completely separate from Koha. It just links to Koha |
| 14:31 | schuster | ah ok. Drat another PHP attachment. |
| 14:31 | wizzyrea | I wish there was a plugin system for koha |
| 14:31 | a la WP | |
| 14:31 | so you could shortcode really cool content in. | |
| 14:32 | owen | CGI766: I wonder if you get a similarly weird display when you view that record in your staff client? |
| 14:32 | CGI766 | I have removed any of the custom CSS changes but the problem remains. Is there anyway to turn on enchanced logging? |
| 14:32 | brendan | wizzyrea - plugin system - I know that's sekjal's dream to code into koha somewhere somehow |
| 14:33 | CGI766 | Yes, the record looks the same, a little more detail but seems to have many blank locations |
| 14:33 | wizzyrea | I would love him forever. |
| 14:34 | sekjal | awww |
| 14:35 | I have so many dream projects | |
| 14:35 | I just need to figure out how to plug a computer into my brain, so I can code them up while I sleep | |
| 14:35 | * chris_n | thinks if we could all finish all of our koha dream projects, the world would not need any other ils :) |
| 14:37 | sekjal | chris_n: agreed |
| 14:37 | owen | chris_n: Except for some folks who would insist that it should have been written in Python using Postgres |
| 14:37 | wizzyrea | *giggle* |
| 14:37 | sekjal | owen: they could run a modified version of Evergreen, then |
| 14:38 | wizzyrea | 766, I don't suppose you'd feel comfortable giving any of us a login to look at your prefs? |
| 14:38 | (which is fine) | |
| 14:38 | owen | CGI766: Because that record looks so strange and you have weird empty locations, I'm wondering if there was a problem with your biblio load or with your data mapping |
| 14:39 | CGI766 | Maybe, should I trunc and start again? It is only a test system at the moment? |
| 14:40 | owen | CGI766: Where are you getting your records? Are you trying to import from another system? |
| 14:40 | CGI766 | Yes, a Horizon system |
| 14:41 | owen | CGI766: You might want to start over and try to create a new MARC record from scratch or from a Z39.50 search |
| 14:42 | wizzyrea | ^^ what he says |
| 14:42 | CGI766 | OK, will do. Thanks. |
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| 15:24 | kf | bye #koha |
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| 15:57 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 15:57 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 12.8�C (8:35 AM PDT on April 27, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Rising). |
| 16:03 | schuster | @wunder 75074 |
| 16:03 | munin | schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 18.3�C (10:44 AM CDT on April 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.41 in 995.8 hPa (Rising). |
| 16:04 | brendan | heya schuster |
| 16:04 | schuster | Hey! |
| 16:04 | Hope all is going well... | |
| 16:05 | brendan | you too :) |
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| 16:20 | wizzyrea | oh schuster! been a while! |
| 16:20 | hi | |
| 16:20 | :) | |
| 16:30 | schuster | hey wizzyrea... Yes busy with trying to get things ready to close down for the summer. |
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| 16:55 | cait | hi #koha |
| 16:59 | jdavidb | Hi, cait! :D |
| 17:00 | cait | hi jdavidb :) |
| 17:00 | wajasu | my cataloger was replacing a marc record via a z3950 search. it has 45 volumes. Now no searches return anything. shall i do a complete zebra rebuild.pl? |
| 17:02 | i'm going to try to rebuild see if zebra is stoping its indexing because if a bad marc record. | |
| 17:07 | chris_n | wajasu: yes |
| 17:07 | you might also see the FAQ on Searching at www.koha-community.org | |
| 17:07 | wajasu | ok |
| 17:07 | chris_n | it contains some important suggestions regarding rebuild_zebra.pl |
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| 17:20 | chris_n | brb |
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| 17:25 | wajasu | i ran the rebuild -b -v and zebraidx bailed with an assertion error --> zebraidx: records.c:913: rec_get_int: Assertion `rec->size[i] == 0' failed. |
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| 17:29 | chris_n | wajasu: you might try rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v which will drop the indexes and rebuild from scratch |
| 17:29 | * chris_n | is not sure about that error |
| 17:29 | rhcl | Here's one old thread on the zebra: |
| 17:29 | http://lists.indexdata.dk/pipe[…]ugust/000532.html | |
| 17:29 | chris_n | sanity check: you are running the script as your kohauser |
| 17:30 | wajasu | as root |
| 17:30 | chris_n | you should be running as your kohauser |
| 17:31 | ie. su kohauser (or whatever the correct account is) | |
| 17:36 | wajasu | i'm going o have to make sure the dirs that zebra uses belong to a koha group and the koha user as well, to get the crontab to run as koha. |
| 17:36 | gmcharlt | cute - edit war on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koha_%28software%29 |
| 17:36 | wajasu | the rebuild you had me do ran through. |
| 17:37 | but when i went to opac to search, nothing is found still. | |
| 17:37 | i'm, going to run rebuild -b -v now. | |
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| 17:45 | wajasu | when i set up my distribution, i had to do httpd setup manually, and user virtual hosts. is there some setup that runs the koha cgi/perl scripts as the koha user? thus the zerba directories need to be readable and/or writeable by koha? |
| 17:48 | chris_n | wajasu: in all setup variations all things zebra related are owned by the kohauser iirc |
| 17:48 | there are only three variations: development, single directory, and standard | |
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| 17:54 | chris_n | interesting... the gnome interface in lucid looks much more mac-ish |
| 17:59 | owen | lucid? |
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| 18:02 | chris_n | owen: the latest ubuntu beta |
| 18:03 | the thing boots extremely fast | |
| 18:09 | * jdavidb | is thinking of a switch to Ubuntu at home, but has about a half-dozen windows-only things on that machine, that don't seem to like wine much. |
| 18:11 | * chris_n | runs the complete MS Office 2003 suite under wine: a) to keep it under my thumb ;) and b) to accommodate some users who cannot let go of their M$ security blanket |
| 18:12 | * jwagner | perks up my ears. Wine? Someone's drinking wine? I could use a slug.... |
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| 18:15 | jdavidb | chris_n: the two games that get most of my cycles on the home machine baldly refuse to run under wine, so I'll probably keep Windows. XP-pro, so it's not too evil. |
| 18:17 | owen | brendan: I submitted a patch for the Amazon covers issue and updated Bug 3863 |
| 18:17 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3863 major, P5, ---, henridamienkoha-fr.org, NEW, Amazon Content Not Working |
| 18:21 | brendan | owen++ |
| 18:24 | jdavidb | owen++ |
| 18:24 | * owen | should be working on statistics but Koha keeps sucking me back in! |
| 18:24 | * jdavidb | fails to see the problem.. |
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| 18:30 | chris | oh that sux |
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| 18:46 | chris | thats just blatant hostility to the community |
| 18:47 | owen | chris: ? |
| 18:47 | gmcharlt | owen: looking at edit history for the wikipedia page about Koha |
| 18:47 | chris | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/inde[…]e)&action=history |
| 18:48 | kelly sherman has been changing links to www.koha.org | |
| 18:51 | chris_n | wow, and moving liblime links to the top of the list... |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea | as competitors to koha |
| 18:52 | chris | and pointing it to www.koha.org |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea | which I find funny :) |
| 18:52 | chris | speaks volumes |
| 18:52 | liblime -> www.koha.org | |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea | OMG |
| 18:52 | koha is a competitor to koha! | |
| 18:53 | * wizzyrea | 's mind blows |
| 18:53 | chris | ah well, at least true colours are being shown |
| 18:54 | * chris_n | finds it interesting that today it appears she changed the link back to koha-community.org |
| 18:54 | chris | that last change? |
| 18:54 | thats not her | |
| 18:54 | chris_n | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/inde[…]t&oldid=358417377 |
| 18:54 | ok, I see | |
| 18:55 | chris | that link was broken, so someone fixed it |
| 18:55 | someone should probably fix all the rest too | |
| 18:55 | preferably the person who broke them | |
| 18:55 | but the chance of ptfs growing some ethics seems slim | |
| 18:55 | chris_n | interesting that all of this appears to have taken place after the email exchange over the weekend |
| 18:56 | I wonder if that is our answer | |
| 18:56 | chris | seems to be |
| 18:56 | why do it otherwise? | |
| 18:56 | you don't accidentally edit the page 8 times | |
| 18:57 | * sekjal | gets started fixing links |
| 18:58 | chris_n | this sort of reeks of kados |
| 18:59 | chris | pretending to be ptfs? |
| 18:59 | chris_n | no, but motivating |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | and I'm sorry, it kind of also reeks of, how to say... ignorance on the part of the editor. |
| 19:00 | I mean, she put a LibLime, linking to koha.org, as a *competitor* of koha. | |
| 19:00 | chris | well it is |
| 19:00 | there is koha | |
| 19:00 | * chris_n | can think of lots of not so nice things a bucket can be filled with |
| 19:01 | chris | and then there is the unreleased fork |
| 19:01 | its the only truthful edit made | |
| 19:02 | chris_n | what a sadly poetical phrase: "For other meanings of Koha, see Koha (disambiguation)." |
| 19:09 | wizzyrea | hm, that bit in our wikipedia page about the support companies might be better served to link to the list on the koha-community website |
| 19:09 | chris | true |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | I mean, we all know there are more than just bywater, ptfs, and Nucsoft |
| 19:11 | brendan | awwwhhh shucks |
| 19:11 | chris_n | hehe |
| 19:11 | brendan | agreed though - a link to koha-community would server everyone better |
| 19:12 | chris_n | +1 # as if it's needed :) |
| 19:12 | brendan | +1 |
| 19:13 | gmcharlt | +1 |
| 19:14 | wizzyrea | well I just went and did it, so I hope that's ok >.> |
| 19:14 | guess I should get a wikipedia login >.> | |
| 19:14 | brendan | wizzyrea++ |
| 19:16 | cait | history could link to koha-community too |
| 19:16 | wizzyrea | indeed |
| 19:16 | cait | it sounds like liblime were the first company and its the only one mentioned |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | yea, I'm going to do a little proper editing on this I think. |
| 19:17 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 19:17 | * chris_n | cheers wizzyrea on |
| 19:18 | owen | wizzyrea while you're in there please change the link for Nelsonville Public Library to http://www.myacpl.org |
| 19:19 | chris | last time someone started an edit war with librarians |
| 19:19 | the librarians won | |
| 19:19 | cait | dont miss the liblime link under see also |
| 19:20 | wizzyrea | owen: done. |
| 19:20 | chris | was when an nz author (a very mediocre one) said libraries were stealing by lending books out |
| 19:20 | wizzyrea | (haven't saved yet) |
| 19:20 | chris | then tried to pretend it never happened |
| 19:21 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B[…]rds_(New_Zealand) <-- librarians won | |
| 19:21 | ok time to go feed my kids | |
| 19:28 | chris_n | wizzyrea: maybe reordering in alphabetical order would be in order... like on koha-community.org |
| 19:28 | wizzyrea | oh no no no we're not going to discuss sorting methodology |
| 19:28 | lol | |
| 19:28 | * chris_n | ducks |
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| 19:29 | chris_n | heya nengard |
| 19:29 | brendan | heya nengard |
| 19:29 | chris_n | snap |
| 19:30 | nengard | i hear someone messed with my wikipedia edits??? |
| 19:30 | brendan | missing some good action in the list |
| 19:30 | whoops in channel | |
| 19:30 | chris_n | hehe |
| 19:31 | nengard | people should know better than to change my edits!!! |
| 19:31 | * chris_n | ducks again |
| 19:31 | * owen | too |
| 19:31 | nengard | hehe :) |
| 19:31 | it wasn't you!! | |
| 19:32 | you wouldn't do that | |
| 19:33 | wizzyrea | I admit it, it was me >.> |
| 19:33 | at least this time | |
| 19:33 | nengard | no no |
| 19:33 | you guys misunderstand | |
| 19:33 | i mean someone changed the fact that i put the links in to the official koha page | |
| 19:33 | now you're just re-doing what i did | |
| 19:34 | that's a-ok :) | |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | ok... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koha_%28software%29 |
| 19:34 | mostly in the history section | |
| 19:34 | nengard | i'm talia679 |
| 19:34 | in the history :) | |
| 19:36 | owen | wizzyrea: You forgot to move LibLime from the Open-source section of "competitors" to the Proprietary section :P |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | I wasn't working on that section yet |
| 19:36 | :) | |
| 19:36 | but it's done now | |
| 19:37 | sekjal | wizzyrea: also, the LibLime link in the See Also is incorrect. Should point to LibLime's wikipedia page, in my opinion |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | ooh, yea good catch |
| 19:37 | you know what | |
| 19:37 | nengard | k |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | I don't think that should even be there |
| 19:38 | I think it should be "List of Koha Support companies" | |
| 19:38 | and point to the website | |
| 19:38 | because there's no reason that LL over anyone else should have a see also on that page | |
| 19:38 | * cait | mumbles mentioned see also too... |
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| 19:42 | cait | sorry, just a bit tired and moody today |
| 19:43 | wajasu | chris_n: so those koha tips in the community web, say "Be sure you are *not* running the zebraqueue daemon". So should I just run a full index build every 5 minutes? (-b -a, without -z) |
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| 19:43 | chris | ok bus time back later |
| 19:43 | wajasu | i've done full rebuilds, but i get nothing the search results. |
| 19:43 | cait | wajasu: -z will just reindex new and changed records from zebra_queue table - so yes :) |
| 19:43 | chris | go go librarian fact checkers |
| 19:43 | chris_n | wajasu: -z every 5 mins would be fine |
| 19:44 | brendan | wajasu - have you confirmed that zebraserver is running ? |
| 19:44 | chris_n | what he said ^^ |
| 19:44 | brendan | you can try this |
| 19:44 | ps -aef | grep zebra | |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | sorry cait, just missed your comment I think. |
| 19:44 | but it should be fixed now | |
| 19:44 | * chris_n | thinks brendan is just a mite faster on the keyboard :) |
| 19:45 | brendan | yeah but usually with typos ;) |
| 19:45 | wizzyrea | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koha_(software) |
| 19:45 | please double check what I've done. | |
| 19:45 | cait | wizzyrea: no problem, thx for correcting everything! :) |
| 19:45 | chris_n | wizzyrea: might sweet of you to correct that competition blunder :) |
| 19:46 | at least they will never be able to accuse us of malice | |
| 19:46 | wajasu | i did a fresh install/deploy last week. now they added/replaced their 1st marc record (that had 45 volumes). and now no results in the searches. |
| 19:46 | chris_n | wajasu: were you able to confirm that zebra is running? |
| 19:47 | wajasu | yes its running. /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
| 19:47 | chris_n | and rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v ran with no errors? |
| 19:48 | wajasu | no errors. unless somehow i blocked the port it listens on with iptables/firewall? |
| 19:48 | but things were searching fine last thursday. | |
| 19:48 | chris_n | zebra should be running on a socket |
| 19:48 | hmm | |
| 19:49 | brendan | maybe restart zebra ? |
| 19:49 | wajasu | i saw those sockets and they are read/write owned by root. |
| 19:49 | i'm running alpha | |
| 19:49 | chris_n | wajasu: and this faq does not apply: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]faq/searching/#16 |
| 19:49 | brendan | in your ps -aef | grep zebra output |
| 19:50 | what does the user say ? | |
| 19:50 | something like --user=koha | |
| 19:50 | wajasu | i just didi all that. |
| 19:50 | chris_n | k |
| 19:51 | wajasu | i just chowned -R koha:koha /var/lib/koha/zebradb /var/run/koha/zebradb |
| 19:51 | and ran rebuild as koha user with success. | |
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| 19:52 | wajasu | i see lots of records exported, etc with -v when I rebuild. |
| 19:52 | chris_n | and your zebra process is owned by the koha user (confirmed in the ps -ef output)? |
| 19:53 | * chris_n | is puzzled |
| 19:53 | chris_n | zebraqueue daemon is not running, right? |
| 19:54 | wajasu | no. As root. because the instructions have me install as a daemon /etc/rc.d/koha-zebra-daemon (whihc i symlinked to /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh) |
| 19:54 | i stopped zebraqueue an hour ago so its out of the picture. | |
| 19:55 | i haven'd installed any sudo functionality in this dist. | |
| 19:58 | this is the 1st time i ever got zebraqueue running and it ran every five minutes since last thursday. | |
| 19:59 | wait. i think i see somehting in the opac error log. | |
| 19:59 | chris_n | wajasu: it has bad memory leaks |
| 19:59 | zebraqueue that is | |
| 19:59 | wajasu | opac-search.pl: Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 468 |
| 19:59 | wizzyrea | well I'm going to take it as a good sign that no one is objecting to my changes (yet) |
| 20:00 | wajasu | i'm look at the source luke. |
| 20:02 | chris_n | wajasu: what version do you have? |
| 20:02 | wajasu | alpha |
| 20:02 | chris_n | no, version number |
| 20:02 | about->koha | |
| 20:02 | in the staff interface | |
| 20:02 | wajasu | where should i look |
| 20:02 | chris_n | in the staff client, 'About' |
| 20:02 | wajasu | i'm ssh'd into the server from home with only command line. |
| 20:03 | 1 minute | |
| 20:03 | chris_n | cat kohaversion.pl |
| 20:03 | wajasu | 3.01.00.111 |
| 20:03 | chris_n | you can also test your zebra with the yaz-client |
| 20:04 | cait | bug 4416++ |
| 20:04 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4416 normal, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, renew all and return all buttons too close together |
| 20:05 | wajasu | i'll try the yaz client now |
| 20:05 | chris_n | wajasu: you might want to check the zebra username/password |
| 20:05 | verify the ones in koha-conf.xml | |
| 20:05 | match those in zebradb/etc/passwd | |
| 20:05 | owen | Re: Bug 4416, one of my librarians questioned the need for a "renew all" button given the fact that we have a "select all" link under the Renew column. |
| 20:06 | cait | I have given back a lot of books by accident (very bad when you are testing notices and fines) |
| 20:06 | chris_n | ok, gotta run, bbl |
| 20:06 | cait | I think renew all is ok, but its too easy to click on renew all instead of renew selected |
| 20:06 | wajasu | i recall changing a passwd for kohaadmin for the staff. maybe its not synced. I'll check. |
| 20:08 | cait | owen: often I mark one or more items and klick on renew all or return all |
| 20:09 | nengard | can someone tell me what is 'earliest hold date' on the holds to pull report? |
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| 20:13 | owen | nengard: Since the report might list a title with multiple holds, I guess the report shows the date of the earliest one |
| 20:14 | nengard | earliest one what? earliest available? earliest placed? |
| 20:14 | first patron to receive the item? | |
| 20:14 | owen | The earliest hold date (being the hold for the patron who is next in line for it) |
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| 20:39 | wizzyrea | it suddenly got very quiet |
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| 20:42 | richard | hi |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | hi richard :) |
| 20:42 | richard | hi wizzyrea |
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| 20:46 | wizzyrea | I can't remember... bulk patron edits, in 3.2? |
| 20:49 | also, update patrons from child to adult | |
| 20:49 | easy or hard to implement? | |
| 20:49 | sekjal | wizzyrea: I recall some kind of automatic child to adult script... |
| 20:49 | it'd be pretty straightforward to write, then put on a nightly cron. | |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | well that was what I thought |
| 20:51 | chris_n | back |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | I think we had them do "DB maintenance" once to do that for us |
| 20:51 | which we paid for | |
| 20:51 | and it seems dumb | |
| 20:51 | to pay for such things, it should be so easy | |
| 20:52 | sekjal | so long as you had date of birth in the child records |
| 20:52 | * chris_n | wonders how much money is made doing easy things |
| 20:52 | chris_n | and why he never gets a shot at them :-) |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | you are clearly too nice. |
| 20:53 | ;) | |
| 20:54 | * chris_n | shows all his teeth and growls |
| 20:54 | wizzyrea | well I suppose you wouldn't update a child that didn't have a birthdate |
| 20:54 | just report it out | |
| 20:54 | "these children were not updated: cause, no birthdate" | |
| 20:54 | nope, still not scary | |
| 20:55 | wajasu | one things i notice in the logs (which might have been zebraqueue, was searches that look like someone cut and pasted a text marc record in the search field.) |
| 20:56 | for the past week. tons of entries. | |
| 20:57 | my koha-opac-error_log is >17MB and only me and one other have done at most 200 queries on the search field of the opac. | |
| 20:58 | i'll see if now that the zebraqueue is stopped, if that goes away. | |
| 20:58 | i'm going to look into the table. | |
| 21:05 | chris | back |
| 21:07 | i wonder if someone should reply to the koha.org thread on the mailing list, pointing out the ptfs edits of wikipedia? | |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | well they're all gone now |
| 21:07 | chris | still all in the history |
| 21:08 | and it does show the environment in which we are operating | |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | maybe it would be better to just say that we've cleaned up the wikipedia entry |
| 21:09 | to more accurately reflect the current state of the project. | |
| 21:09 | chris | could be |
| 21:09 | chris_n | and suggesting that further edits be left to the appointed leaders of the community |
| 21:09 | chris | i dont think we wanna go that far |
| 21:09 | * wizzyrea | doesn't really fall in that category |
| 21:09 | chris_n | or at least be run by the list |
| 21:09 | chris | but sticking to the facts might be nice |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | chris: have you looked at it since I finished with it? |
| 21:09 | * chris_n | imagines a long drawn out series of oppsing edits ensuing |
| 21:10 | chris | chris_n: wikipedia stamp that out pretty fast |
| 21:10 | they will lock the page if they have to | |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | can you suggest that they do so? |
| 21:10 | chris | wizzyrea: yep much better, but that really isnt the issue IMHO |
| 21:10 | * chris_n | is a bit releaved to hear that |
| 21:10 | * wizzyrea | doesn't work with editing wikipedia much |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | oh I know it's not the issu |
| 21:10 | but I did change other stuff too | |
| 21:11 | chris | the issue is that ptfs have decided to attack the community, openly in public |
| 21:11 | chris_n | it all seems a bit childish imho |
| 21:11 | chris | and i think people should be aware of that |
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| 21:11 | chris_n | heya larsw |
| 21:11 | nice work on the deb packages | |
| 21:11 | larsw | thank you |
| 21:12 | chris_n | chris: some sort of post might not be out of order |
| 21:12 | sekjal | larsw++ |
| 21:13 | chris | ill give it a day or 2 |
| 21:13 | certainly if its edited again | |
| 21:14 | man, what a waste of energy | |
| 21:14 | wizzyrea | no kidding |
| 21:14 | oh yes, larsw++ | |
| 21:15 | sekjal | I'm very excited about "sudo apt-get install koha" becoming a reality |
| 21:15 | larsw | stop that, I am only an 8-bit variable, you're going to overflow me |
| 21:15 | (kidding aside: thank you, it feels good to get feedback) | |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | sekjal: omg, no kidding. |
| 21:15 | * wizzyrea | puts that in angry twitter guy's face |
| 21:16 | sekjal | then, with the .deb, we can easily have a turnkeylinux app |
| 21:16 | * wizzyrea | squees! |
| 21:17 | larsw | I have a preliminary koha.deb, but it doesn't work out of the box yet; chris is helping me iron out the problems, and I will let koha-devel know when I have something that is safe for other people to try |
| 21:18 | sekjal | thanks, larsw! I'll happily put it through it's paces when it's ready |
| 21:18 | chris | a patch i sent for fixing the libxml issue should help with that, i must check that with gmcharlt |
| 21:18 | gmcharlt | chris: I'm strongly tempted to stick that into MARC::File::XML |
| 21:19 | but at any rate, if you wouldn't mind s/write/right/ on the patch | |
| 21:19 | chris | ahh doh |
| 21:19 | yeah can do | |
| 21:20 | i love git commit --amend, make a branch, cherry pick fix the files git add git commit --amend and away you go | |
| 21:20 | will do that right now | |
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| 21:24 | chris | i switched half way through and started saying correct, so ill just s/write/correct/ |
| 21:24 | on the bad ones and resubmit | |
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| 21:28 | wajasu | can anyone give me a quick example command line for a yaz-cliinet search. I'm trying to figure out auth/open, etc.. |
| 21:29 | chris_n | wajasu: check the list archives; there are several threads dealing with the yaz-client |
| 21:29 | wajasu | ok |
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| 21:37 | chris | gmcharlt: just rebasing the 2505 changes add a couple of conflicts, fixing now |
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| 21:39 | chris | sent |
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| 21:43 | chris | off to a meeting bbl |
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| 22:58 | wajasu | connected with yaz-client and did a search and got 49 results. so the zebra server/index is not the problem at the moment. |
| 22:59 | when i search thru the opac, it seems the search never hits the zebrasrv | |
| 23:00 | so maybe its a permissions problem. or an error inthe search.pl might be short circuiting things. | |
| 23:05 | chris | wasaju: you do have nozebra switched off? |
| 23:05 | wajasu | if i see 'use of uninitialize value in string eq at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 468 which looks up $params->{'offset'} ... |
| 23:06 | i'm going to have to see if my staff person messed with prefs. | |
| 23:06 | is there a mysql table tht logs changes? | |
| 23:07 | i might be able to do a query to see their changes. | |
| 23:07 | i'll check nozebra. | |
| 23:10 | chris | not for sysprefs i dont think |
| 23:11 | wajasu | i queried sysprefs and saw NoZebra with value 1 |
| 23:11 | chris | ah ha |
| 23:11 | therein lies the problem | |
| 23:11 | change that to 0 | |
| 23:11 | and try your search in the opac | |
| 23:11 | wajasu | i think i accidently ran rebuild_nozebra.pl then ctrl-c'd it. |
| 23:12 | so it might have changed that? | |
| 23:12 | * chris | is very happy to see email from cfouts |
| 23:12 | chris | it is possible |
| 23:12 | wajasu | thx, i will check it out later. got a meeting for a couple of hours. |
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| 23:13 | * chris | answers |
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| 23:31 | brendan | chris: I think that nozebra will be the trick |
| 23:32 | when it comes down to it - it's always the easiest answer eh? | |
| 23:32 | chris | yep |
| 23:33 | always best to look like a dork and ask the obvious questions | |
| 23:33 | brendan | :) |
| 23:33 | tried that with - is zebra running? | |
| 23:33 | chris | :) |
| 23:33 | * brendan | needs to go more dorky |
| 23:39 | * chris_n | asked the same questions twice... does that qualify? |
| 23:40 | chris | thats just forgetful :) |
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