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00:00 | chris | again, no idea with your koha, havent seen it happen on master though |
00:00 | genji1 | man, its annoying, being out of sync with everyone else. |
00:02 | nod | genji1: grep is your friend: grep -Rl GetUsedMarcStructure * |
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00:16 | chris | heya collum |
00:17 | nod, collum has also done tons of bug2505 work | |
00:19 | genji1 | bug 2505 |
00:19 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2505 major, P3, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts |
00:21 | collum | hey chris |
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00:23 | nod | hey collum |
00:23 | collum | hi all |
00:23 | nod | for bug 2505 you should be able to grep for 2505 and see lots of stuff to fix :) |
00:24 | chris | when the patches get pushed that is :) |
00:24 | hiya owen | |
00:25 | collum | yep. Files without warnings can be found by using grep -L warnings |
00:25 | owen | Hi chris |
00:25 | collum | assuming warnings have not been commented out. |
00:25 | owen | thanks for the offer of help on the statistics yesterday. I think I figured out where all of the discrepanices came from |
00:25 | chris | excellent |
00:26 | owen | NPL's deleteditems table was not getting populated for a period of time |
00:27 | Our statistical reports will all have to have a column for "unknown branch" and "unknown ccode" :| | |
00:28 | chris | ahhhh :( |
00:29 | owen | But that's better than not having a count for those circs at all. The way I had been aggregating the data before I was missing circs for stuff that had been deleted |
00:29 | chris | ahh using a straight join, instead of a left? |
00:30 | owen | that's the trouble... I'm not good at choosing joins |
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01:51 | chris_n | g'night #koha |
01:52 | chris | night chris_n |
02:11 | genji1 | is there a javascript way of subfieldid = find id "773_a_*"? |
02:12 | since subfields have random elements in their name.. how do you refer to their id's, if you don't know what the random element is? | |
02:13 | i suspect, my taking away of the random numbers in the 773 fields, in order for other javascript to function, could be causing the repeated tag... | |
02:37 | ah hell. found the problem | |
02:37 | how do you delete a repeated subfield from all records? | |
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05:37 | Amit_G | hyea cait |
05:37 | mib_jrc1sa | Hi |
05:39 | cait | hi Amit_G |
06:23 | bye #koha | |
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06:36 | chris | well that was fun |
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06:48 | chris | hi paul_p |
06:48 | paul_p | hi chris |
06:48 | answering to koha@ and kelly sherman atm (Just to say the same things as others) | |
06:49 | (I got the mail too) | |
06:49 | chris | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]gton-after-outage |
06:49 | we had an interestng day | |
06:49 | ah yeah, that was an interesting start to the day | |
07:07 | paul_p | chris, some available for some technical discussion ? |
07:07 | do you know dancer ? | |
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07:08 | kf | good morning |
07:08 | paul_p | http://www.perldancer.org/ |
07:08 | hi kf | |
07:08 | chris | the framework? |
07:08 | only briefly | |
07:08 | ive never tested it out | |
07:08 | kf | hi paul_p and chris |
07:09 | chris | hiya kf |
07:09 | paul_p | some ppl at BibLibre thinks it could be a good tool to use in Koha. |
07:09 | chris | i think you could write somethng like ils-di |
07:09 | in it pretty easily | |
07:09 | paul_p | same thing for http://plackperl.org/ too |
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07:09 | paul_p | chris, yep, ils-di with dancer would be easier. |
07:09 | chris | my answer to most of those things is, do a prototype and see how it works |
07:10 | so with dancer, id pick somethign we would like a nice restful interface for | |
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07:10 | chris | and have a go at writng it |
07:10 | paul_p | (what's nice with dancer is that it is compatible with TT) |
07:10 | chris | *nod* |
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07:12 | chris | what might be nice |
07:12 | is a dancer app, with nginx in front | |
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07:12 | paul_p | chris: in 2 weeks (may 3-7), everynoe at BibLibre has a "coderun". We try to have 2 every year, where everybody is in the same physical place. One of our goal for this meeting is to try some nice new technologies we could use for Koha (like dancer, plack, mojo, catalyst, CGI::Fast, DBIx::Class,...) |
07:12 | chris | nginx to serve the static content and proxy to dancer |
07:13 | i had nginx and fastcgi going with perl | |
07:13 | sorry with the opac | |
07:13 | paul_p | chris, another goal is to do some load tests of koha 3.2, find & solve as many perf limits as possible. Because there are a lot of optimisations that can be done. |
07:14 | chris | yes, thats the major plan for 3.4 |
07:14 | speed | |
07:14 | ok gotta put the kids to bed bbab | |
07:14 | paul_p | chris: my feeling is that it won't be called 3.4, but 4.0 ! |
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07:47 | magnus | wow, ptfs makes a move and slips... |
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07:56 | kf | yes |
07:57 | chris | paul_p: well no, it will be 3.4 |
07:57 | its not going to have major new features | |
07:57 | but its going to be much faster/tidier | |
07:57 | and i hope to have a short release cycle | |
07:58 | aiming for 6 months | |
07:58 | if we try for 4.0 it will take too long | |
07:58 | id rather go for short release cycles | |
07:59 | magnus | short_release_cycles++ |
07:59 | chris | magnus: yeah, was a fairly clear indication they still don't get it |
07:59 | Ekel | hi, may i ask if u have experience getting this error with 3.0.0.4: *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/perl: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x000000000395e4a0 *** |
08:02 | paul_p | chris, short_release_cycles++ |
08:04 | magnus | @karma short_release_cycles |
08:04 | munin | magnus: Karma for "short_release_cycles" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
08:08 | genji | chris++ |
08:08 | hlt++ | |
08:09 | what else haven't i increased in ages.. | |
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08:11 | kf | short_release_cycles++ |
08:12 | chris | heh |
08:12 | magnus | you have our support, chris... ;-) |
08:12 | chris | yikes that error of Ekels' looked nasty |
08:23 | kf | I think we should try to stick to a schedule with releases, so its a bit easier to plan for things. |
08:23 | chris | yep, within reason |
08:23 | but we can stick to as schedule for feature freeze | |
08:24 | still have to release when the bugs are fixed | |
08:24 | kf | I agree |
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09:00 | chris | kf: i forget, did the overwrite work? |
09:02 | kf | chris: yes :) And we updated our installation from pootle today and serials work fine now |
09:04 | chris | excellent |
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11:30 | kf | does someone know how 942 is populated? I see problems where 942 is a different item type than the items (using item level itpyes) |
11:37 | chris_n | g'morning #koha |
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11:46 | kf | good morning chris_n |
11:46 | hi jwagner | |
11:46 | does someone know how 942 is populated? I see problems where 942 is a different item type than the items (using item level itpyes) (942 is not for loan, item type is for loan, opac says: not for loan...) | |
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11:47 | chris_n | kf: sorry, I'm not sure |
11:47 | chris | kf i think its in the marc editor |
11:47 | you choose itemtype there | |
11:48 | kf | yes, but it should not use it? |
11:48 | chris | thats the only place i know of that 942 is populated |
11:48 | jwagner_brb | Hi kf and chris and chris_n -- am waiting for a repairman to show up so I may get called away any minute. |
11:48 | kf | we use item level itypes and so we dont set it |
11:48 | chris | right |
11:49 | kf | im just not sure if there is a configuraton problem too |
11:49 | chris | so its blank? |
11:49 | kf | want to report a bug |
11:49 | not its a pulldown | |
11:49 | jwagner_brb | kf, somewhere in the code, and I hope to hunt it down with heavy weapons, things still look at the 942c item type instead of the item-level item type. If it's not correct, bad things happen. |
11:49 | kf | it seems it gets set to the first entry in the pull down |
11:49 | which is a not for loan itype... although the items are for loan | |
11:49 | chris | well it should look at 942c if thats what the systempref says to look at |
11:50 | kf | my syspref is set to specific item (item-level_itypes on) |
11:50 | chris | right in that case it shouldnt |
11:51 | kf | just want to make sure, I write on the bug report right now |
11:51 | but perhaps it should not be set at all, when using item-level_itypes? | |
11:52 | chris | well not being set at all wouldnt fix the bug, if its not respecting the syspref its just going to use a blank itemtype instead |
11:53 | kf | you are right |
11:54 | perhaps I can define a better default value, an item type that is for loan | |
11:54 | chris | every once in a while i am :) |
11:55 | if you file the bug, mark it blocker | |
11:55 | thats one that needs to be fixed before release | |
11:55 | kf | near to always would be my guess :) |
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11:55 | kf | will do |
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12:03 | kf | Bug 4396 |
12:03 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4396 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, item level itypes not working correctly when 942c itype is not for loan |
12:04 | chris | cool |
12:04 | kf | hope its understandable |
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12:07 | kf | working on my list "strange things" today |
12:08 | * jdavidb | wishes he had a "not strange things" list somewhere. |
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12:10 | kf | there is a saying in German about not seeing the forrest because of all the trees... |
12:11 | jdavidb | We say that here, too. :) |
12:11 | kf | :) |
12:11 | * jdavidb | sometimes can't see the trees, either, for all the bizarre, mutated little weeds that have grown up in the way. |
12:13 | kf | :) |
12:15 | another bug candidate: scan index in advanced search can not display umlauts and ß - is this because of indexing (with icu reducing ü to u?) and does not work with hebrew | |
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12:31 | owen | Interesting... The "Add & Duplicate" function auto-increments the barcode even if autoBarcode is off |
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12:37 | magnus | owen: would probably be better if it left the barcodes blank? But then again - why enter a barcode for an item you want to duplicate? |
12:38 | owen | The "Add & Duplicate" button adds the item you've just entered and then pre-populates the add item form again with the same values |
12:39 | kf | I think this feature is for cataloging more than one item at once with preprinted barcodes |
12:39 | owen | So you have to enter the barcode the first time, but I question whether the pre-populated form should contain an auto-incremented barcode when you have that preference turned off |
12:39 | kf | where the barcodes are incrementing |
12:40 | owen | The pre-populated form increments the barcode you entered in the first form. |
12:40 | ...which assumes you're adding a series of items from the same batch of barcodes | |
12:40 | kf | perhaps when you have more than one cataloger, you split your barcode sheets between them, so it does not imcrement from the highest barcode in the database but from the onr you entered? |
12:41 | owen | We use a different set of barcodes for each library |
12:42 | ...and there is no guarantee that the next physical barcode the cataloger chooses will be +1 from the last barcode used | |
12:42 | kf | I think the auto-increment syspref is for generating barcodes in general, so its not really related to the duplicate add feature, perhaps should be another syspref |
12:42 | owen | The auto-increment syspref automatically populates the add item screen with an incremented barcode doesn't it? |
12:43 | magnus | sorry owen, i was thinking of the functionality to add say 50 items in one fell swoop |
12:43 | kf | yes, but it uses the highest number in the database |
12:43 | ah | |
12:44 | me too | |
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12:46 | owen | Hi nengard. Evergreen conference today? |
12:48 | nengard | yep |
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12:48 | nengard | and no power strips in the conference room!!! |
12:48 | crazy talk at a tech conference | |
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12:49 | owen | It's remarkable how badly-planned a tech conference can be. Maybe because none of the techs want anything to do with planning it? |
12:49 | nengard | everything else is a-ok |
12:50 | awesome wfi | |
12:50 | wifi | |
12:50 | just no power in this room :( | |
12:50 | jwagner_brb is now known as jwagner | |
12:50 | nengard | and we're here for 2 hours i think |
12:50 | so i hope my battery holds out for blogging purposes | |
12:50 | * jwagner | just got good news and bad news |
12:50 | owen | Uh oh |
12:51 | jwagner | The bad news is that my air conditioning compressor is completely failed. The good news is that the unit is under warranty for precisely ...one more month... I finally got a break on a major home repair! |
12:51 | * owen | is glad the good news balances out the bad in this case |
12:51 | * chris_n | bets jwagner is glad it is not the middle of the summer |
12:51 | jwagner | Yes, and unless we get another week of 93 degree weather like we had 3 weeks ago, I can wait until the part is ordered to get it fixed. |
12:52 | Turned on the AC then, and, wow, no cold air! | |
12:52 | nengard | well that is lucky |
12:52 | owen | @wunder 45701 |
12:52 | munin | owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 10.6�C (8:46 AM EDT on April 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Falling). |
12:52 | owen | Still nice and cool in the mornings here |
12:52 | nengard | not sure what the zip is here ... and don't feel like looking it up |
12:53 | but i'm sure its cold out there | |
12:53 | jwagner | nengard, considering all the major home disasters I've had since I bought the place, I think I hit the lottery on this one. |
12:53 | owen | @munin whereis nengard |
12:53 | munin | owen: Error: "munin" is not a valid command. |
12:53 | nengard | jwagner that sounds like our old house |
12:53 | we got out of there pretty quick | |
12:53 | jwagner | Law of averages catching up with me, I think. My last two houses never had any major problems. |
12:53 | nengard | ahhh |
12:54 | our problem is that most of the houses we can afford in eastern PA are 50+ years old | |
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12:54 | nengard | so no matter what we have issues |
12:54 | in the new house it's the plumbing | |
12:54 | and the electrical - which we upgraded to handle our very gadget heavy lifestyle | |
12:55 | * paul_p | look at the opened window, with birds singing, and think Marseille is really a nice place to live ! |
12:55 | paul_p | hello US ppl |
12:56 | owen | Hi paul_p |
12:56 | jwagner | paul_p, trying to make us jealous? |
12:56 | paul_p | jwagner, yes ;-) |
12:56 | jwagner | Washington DC in springtime is pretty nice too! |
12:56 | paul_p | jwagner, in Marseille, we say : "there are 2 kind of french ppl : those living in Marseille, and those dreaming of living in Marseille" :D :D |
12:57 | jwagner | I'm going to have to visit that part of France someday. The furthest south I got when I was there was the Loire valley. |
12:58 | paul_p | while ppl of the far north say : "you cry twice in Nord-Pas de Calais : when you arrive, and when you leave" (when you arrive, because it's a cold/awful/... place, when you leave, because ppl have in their hart the heat you don't get outside) |
12:58 | nengard | hello paul_p |
12:59 | collum | @wunder 49503 |
12:59 | munin | collum: The current temperature in WXGR.NET, Grand Rapids, Michigan is 5.4�C (8:59 AM EDT on April 22, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising). Freeze warning in effect until 9 am EDT this morning... |
12:59 | jwagner | @wunder 20740 |
12:59 | munin | jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 9.8�C (8:59 AM EDT on April 22, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady). Dense fog advisory in effect until 9 am EDT this morning... |
13:00 | magnus | wunder bodo, norway |
13:00 | @wunder bodo, norway | |
13:00 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0�C (2:50 PM CEST on April 22, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
13:00 | jwagner | By the way, I'm still chuckling over some traffic on the Unicorn admin listserv yesterday. One of the admins passed on a question from one of his staff, for the entertainment value: |
13:00 | "Could the recent upgrade possibly have anything to do with our loss of phone service?" | |
13:01 | This of course spiraled into a discussion of how everything was Sirsi's fault! Earthquakes, Icelandic volcanoes, McAfee software debacles, etc. | |
13:01 | Sirsi staff joined in this morning too :-) | |
13:03 | collum | The patch for Icelandic volcanoes was promised in the Horizon 8.0 release. |
13:04 | jwagner | There was a reference in one of the earthquake messages to "the SirsiDynix fault" |
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13:13 | jwagner | chris_n, still online? |
13:13 | chris_n | yup |
13:14 | mostly ;) | |
13:14 | jwagner | You were the one who was doing some report work with ExtractValue & the XML stuff, right? I thought I had kept the messages etc., but I can't find them. |
13:14 | You had some screenshots, I think. | |
13:14 | * chris_n | confesses to it |
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13:15 | jwagner | Are those still up anywhere? |
13:15 | chris_n | hmm... I don't remember the screen shots |
13:15 | most of the references to it are in the irc logs and maybe an email or two | |
13:16 | gmcharlt | biblibre++ |
13:17 | kf | jwagner: I think there is something about Extract Value on the reports page in the wiki too |
13:17 | chris_n | jwagner: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]10-01-26#i_378258 |
13:17 | kf | cant use it... wrong mysql version here :( |
13:17 | jwagner | Yes, I'm looking at the wiki page, but I think chris_n's examples were more detailed. Am searching the IRC logs now. Thanks. |
13:17 | chris_n | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]09-11-25#i_348004 |
13:19 | kf | magnus: nice screenshot ;) |
13:19 | magnus | thanks |
13:20 | jwagner | OK, let me look at those examples some. Thanks. |
13:20 | owen | gmcharlt: What prompted that? |
13:20 | magnus | kf: quite similar to yours, i guess ;-) |
13:21 | gmcharlt | owen: good news, but I"m being mysterious for now :) their good news to tell |
13:21 | owen | Good news is good news. Otherwise I was going to declare a random karma party |
13:22 | mangoes++ ! | |
13:22 | magnus | aww, we want to know it too! :-) |
13:22 | puffindogs++ | |
13:22 | * kf | is curious too |
13:22 | collum | random_karma_parties++ |
13:23 | magnus | perhaps we could bug paul_p or nicomo_laptop or someone to tell us! |
13:24 | @karma random_karma_parties | |
13:24 | munin | magnus: Karma for "random_karma_parties" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
13:24 | kf | allergies-- |
13:26 | paul_p | jesse-- |
13:26 | there are a lot of sysprefs that are reversed in the .pref files | |
13:26 | for example : | |
13:26 | - pref: hidelostitems | |
13:26 | choices: | |
13:26 | yes: Show | |
13:26 | no: "Don't show" | |
13:27 | hidelostitem = 1 = don't show lost items :((( | |
13:28 | chris_n | ouch |
13:29 | gmcharlt | paul_p: little harsh to decrement him, but at any rate, I've been pushing patches to fix those where they appear |
13:29 | paul_p | ok, because of channel request I tell : Lyon3 university is live since 1 week, things seems, it's the 1st french university with a OS-ILS. We should announce that publicly in a few days, pls keep it for yourself |
13:29 | chris_n | biblibre++ |
13:29 | magnus | biblibre++ |
13:30 | jwagner | Congrats! |
13:30 | gmcharlt | wouldn't be a bad idea for us to rename the "negative" sysprefs to avoid double-negative confusion |
13:30 | magnus | thanks for telling us, paul_p! ;-) |
13:30 | chris_n | gmcharlt++ |
13:30 | owen | gmcharlt++ |
13:30 | paul_p | gmcharlt, you're right, but I spend half a day understanding what was happening on my setup, so i'm a little bit bored & maybe a little but too much, you're right |
13:30 | * chris_n | seems to recall something about negative logic in Perl Best Practices |
13:30 | chris_n | better to avoid it when at all possible |
13:31 | paul_p | chris_n, it's not Perl specific ;-) |
13:31 | gmcharlt | I am not in complete disagreement with you, chris_n |
13:31 | chris_n | paul_p: not not true ;-) |
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13:41 | owen | SQL gurus I throw myself at your feet. I'm querying the statistics table to get a count of circs by ccode and by branch for a given month: |
13:41 | SELECT COUNT(statistics.itemnumber) as count FROM items,statistics WHERE statistics.itemnumber= items.itemnumber AND items.ccode = 'AF' AND statistics.branch='APL' AND MONTH(datetime) = 1 AND YEAR(datetime) = 2009 AND (statistics.type = 'issue' OR statistics.type = 'renew') | |
13:41 | ...but this won't count circs for items which have been deleted | |
13:42 | Can I create a single query which includes deleteditems without doing "OR (statistics.itemnumber = delteditems.itemnumber)"... which seems very inefficient | |
13:44 | Is there some kind of JOIN magic I should be using? | |
13:47 | jwagner | owen, I've been working on a weeding report for one site that might give you some pointers. See if maybe you can adapt this: |
13:47 | SELECT items.barcode, items.homebranch AS 'branch', items.itemcallnumber, biblio.title, items.issues as 'Total # Checkouts' FROM items LEFT JOIN biblio on (items.biblionumber = biblio.biblionumber) LEFT JOIN old_issues on (items.itemnumber = old_issues.itemnumber) WHERE items.itype != 'REF' AND items.itemcallnumber LIKE 'OV%' AND items.homebranch = 'M' AND ( (items.issues <= '3' OR items.issues IS NULL) OR date(old_issues.issuedate) NOT BETWEEN '2004-01-01' A | |
13:47 | Look at the part after the itemcallnumber limit | |
13:50 | Of course, jdavidb gets the credit for the SQL magic :-) | |
13:51 | jdavidb | When doing perverted JOINs like that, it helps to have a twisted mind. |
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13:52 | owen | That would make me the Ward Cleaver of SQL I guess :| |
13:52 | * jwagner | wasn't going to comment on jdavidb's abilities.... |
13:53 | * jdavidb | found that working for a fairly Fundamentalist Christian university for a while warps you in all sorts of interesting ways. |
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13:54 | gmcharlt | jdavidb: and it's even worse when you add Cartesian philosphy to the SQL mix |
13:54 | kf | biblibre++ |
13:56 | owen | I get confused by multiple LEFT JOINs. |
13:56 | I tried this: | |
13:56 | SELECT count( statistics.itemnumber ) | |
13:56 | FROM statistics | |
13:56 | LEFT JOIN items ON ( items.itemnumber = statistics.itemnumber ) | |
13:56 | LEFT JOIN deleteditems ON ( deleteditems.itemnumber = statistics.itemnumber ) | |
13:56 | WHERE MONTH( statistics.datetime ) =1 | |
13:56 | AND YEAR( statistics.datetime ) =2009 | |
13:57 | ...but that gives me a slightly different count than two separate queries, one of items and one of deleteditems | |
13:57 | kf | post office opening times force me to leave now - bye all :) |
13:59 | jdavidb | One way that could happen, owen, is if the itemnumber appeared in both items and deleteditems. It *shouldn't*, I know, but... |
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14:00 | sekjal | owen: running some tests now... |
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14:01 | owen | jdavidb: That explains one of the 1161 difference |
14:01 | jdavidb | :-O |
14:01 | sekjal | owen: nope, your items and deleteditems are disjoint |
14:02 | * jdavidb | doesn't consider 1161 difference "sight" in populations of less than a half-million. |
14:02 | sekjal | can't find any itemnumber that's in both tables |
14:03 | jdavidb | Separately count the ones in statistics that have (somehow) fallen out of *both* tables? Same query, only WHERE deleteditems.itemnumber IS NULL AND items.itemnumber IS NULL ? |
14:04 | (flunking both JOINs, so to speak) | |
14:04 | paul_p | git question : is there a way to check between 2 branches patches that are not applied on the other branch ? |
14:06 | jdavidb | paul_p: I think there's a variation on git diff that does that. I think I might have used it once. |
14:06 | owen | jdavidb: 1161! |
14:06 | jdavidb | owen: Bingo. |
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14:08 | jdavidb | There's a lot of other hoopla in statistics, though; narrowing things down a little may help. Might add a WHERE type="issue", for instance. |
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14:09 | jdavidb | (if that's what you're trying to count, anyway.) |
14:12 | gmcharlt | paul_p: git log --pretty=one-line branchA...branchB can help |
14:20 | owen | jdavidb: I'm actually planning to work with a database that pulls just the issues & renewals out for statistics queries. |
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14:30 | owen | Hi Sharon, did you get your "Consigned" answer yesterday? |
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14:33 | wizzyrea_laptop | she's at a meeting today owen, she'll be in and out |
14:34 | (so am I, but I'm rude, so I'll stay put :P) | |
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14:36 | Sharon | no, never got a sample of it showing up, either |
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14:46 | CGI684 | Does anyone here know how to generate a AmazonAssocTag? I have been searching the aws.amazon page for ages and can't figure it out? |
14:46 | wizzyrea_laptop | http://affiliate-program.amazo[…]p/associates/join |
14:46 | does this help? | |
14:48 | I found it here: http://developer.amazonwebserv[…]pa?externalID=636 | |
14:48 | googling "amazon assoc tag" | |
14:49 | CGI684 | Ah, no mention of that in any of the Koha docs, its referred to as something completly different...thanks.....I am setting one up now! |
14:50 | wizzyrea_laptop | :) we'll note it to nengard that it's not in the docs. |
14:50 | owen | jdavidb: Can I ask you another sql question? |
14:50 | jdavidb | Sure. :) |
14:50 | owen | SELECT count( statistics.itemnumber ) |
14:50 | FROM statistics | |
14:50 | LEFT JOIN items ON ( items.itemnumber = statistics.itemnumber ) | |
14:50 | LEFT JOIN deleteditems ON ( deleteditems.itemnumber = statistics.itemnumber ) | |
14:50 | WHERE MONTH( statistics.datetime ) =1 | |
14:50 | AND YEAR( statistics.datetime ) =2009 | |
14:51 | nengard | live blogging a conference - email me whatever it is i'm supposed to do/read |
14:51 | owen | Given that query, how I do get the ccode? It might be coming from items or deleteditems |
14:51 | wizzyrea_laptop | k |
14:51 | jdavidb | Hm...got an idea.. 'sec. |
14:52 | owen | jdavidb: Hang on |
14:52 | I don't think I asked that correctly | |
14:52 | jdavidb | how about CONCAT (items.ccode,deleteditems.ccode) as 'ccode' |
14:52 | One or the other will be NULL, so you'll get the other. | |
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14:53 | owen | jdavidb: What I want to do is *limit* by ccode |
14:53 | (nice CONCAT trick though!) | |
14:54 | Should I just be adding a WHERE for items and deleteditems? | |
14:54 | jdavidb | *nod* should be able to still use it: WHERE CONCAT(items.ccode,deleteditems.ccode) NOT IN ('codes','you','want','to','exclude'), for example, |
14:54 | You could do that. a WHERE this OR that should work. | |
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15:14 | wizzyrea_laptop | oh this is great http://everytimezone.com/ |
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15:24 | CGI537 | Hello. I just enabled AmazonBook covers in my Koha and no images appear, the log show the following: opac-search.pl: Illegal Date '10/10/1997' does not match 'iso' format: yyyy-mm-dd at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 1528 |
15:25 | does anyone think this is relatde to the Amazon problem or a suprious error? | |
15:25 | wizzyrea_laptop | what version? |
15:25 | and do you have all of your keys put in correctly? | |
15:27 | CGI537 | I think so, the only one that is bothering me a little is the AmazonAssocTag, in the SysPrefs the description feild says go to aws.amazon.com but I had to go the affiliate site instead |
15:27 | to register for one, that is | |
15:27 | 3.0004019 is the version | |
15:29 | wizzyrea_laptop | Ah, yes. I know related items and reviews won't work |
15:29 | with that version (amazon changed their setup) | |
15:29 | CGI537 | Should the book jackets work though? |
15:29 | wizzyrea_laptop | as for why you're not getting images: do your records have ISBN's? |
15:29 | if your bibs have ISBN's they should work | |
15:30 | CGI537 | ISBNs? I hope so!! There are all full USMarc records from certified sources, the marc view shows them but the display in Koha doesn't,. would that be it? |
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15:34 | wizzyrea_laptop | do you ahve a link to your catalog? |
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15:36 | CGI537 | It's in house at the moment, I think you might be on to something with the ISBNs though, the marc load seems to have screwed up the tag mappings and the ISBN on most of the records aren't in the 020, strange!! |
15:36 | owen | That would do it |
15:37 | wizzyrea_laptop | ^^ |
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15:48 | CGI729 | hola |
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15:49 | wizzyrea_laptop | hello |
15:49 | ebegin | hello! |
15:56 | CGI729 | hi, im looking for some help with my koha installation |
15:56 | chris_n | lunch |
15:56 | wizzyrea_laptop | this is the place to find it |
15:57 | chris_n | lunch or help ;-) |
15:58 | CGI729 | great, well let me introdu my sel; im eduardo mori, libraryan for the ministry of labour and emplyment promotion of peru |
15:59 | wizzyrea_laptop | chris_n: if you like eating bits, then this is the place. Mostly help though. :) |
15:59 | hi :) | |
15:59 | CGI729 | we have just installed koha 3.0.2 and there are some doubts we'd like to answer |
16:00 | wizzyrea_laptop | any particular reason you did 3.0.2 instead of 3.0.5? Lots of bugfixes in 3.0.5 |
16:00 | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ | |
16:01 | (that's the official, up to date site) | |
16:01 | CGI729 | oh well |
16:01 | wizzyrea_laptop | but you can go ahead with your questions |
16:01 | :) | |
16:02 | owen | koha.org strikes again |
16:02 | ebegin | Anybody tried KohaILS.com ? :) |
16:02 | wizzyrea_laptop | oh lord |
16:02 | CGI729 | yeah! since we're working on a guberment institution, it's a little hard to change things, so we'd like to resolve the errors in our current installation |
16:03 | owen | ebegin: I thought that used to redirect to koha.org |
16:03 | wizzyrea_laptop | it did |
16:03 | owen | If it did, then PTFS has decided to change it now that LibLime is not hounding them to do so |
16:04 | PTFS is not making any friends this week. | |
16:04 | wizzyrea_laptop | eek yea |
16:04 | ebegin | owen : That what I though too ;) |
16:05 | collum | Oy! |
16:06 | wizzyrea_laptop | anybody have fabulous google fu? |
16:06 | CGI729 | queston: why my opac doesn't display my records? :-( |
16:06 | wizzyrea_laptop | goole SEO fu? |
16:06 | you might try some of the tips here: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ | |
16:07 | especially entry 3 | |
16:07 | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]faq/searching/#16 | |
16:07 | indexing in general is a trip up point | |
16:07 | so make sure your indexes are running | |
16:07 | *zebra, I mean | |
16:08 | CGI729 | ok |
16:11 | another question: i run the framework test and this is what i got: The biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber > fields be mapped to a MARC subfield | |
16:11 | i have biblio.biblionumber on 999 $c and biblioitems.biblioitemsnumber on 999 $d | |
16:12 | what is the reason to that error | |
16:12 | documentation i found didn't help much | |
16:14 | wizzyrea_laptop | hmm. That one I don't have a fast answer for you for. |
16:14 | let me look though :) | |
16:16 | CGI729 | you rock! |
16:16 | wizzyrea_laptop | we aim to please :) |
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16:18 | wizzyrea_laptop | this thread from the mailing list archives may help |
16:18 | http://old.nabble.com/MARC-Che[…]44.html#a11247444 | |
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16:19 | CGI729 | reading |
16:19 | wizzyrea_laptop | or the theories therein |
16:19 | it's not exactly your fields | |
16:20 | here's another one | |
16:20 | http://old.nabble.com/Koha-to-[…]91.html#a20470191 | |
16:20 | maybe better, actually | |
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16:21 | CGI729 | ok |
16:21 | 090? thats confusing | |
16:22 | wizzyrea_laptop | yea, I'd look at the 2nd link instead, I think it's probably more relevant |
16:22 | and that one really should be a faq | |
16:22 | CGI729 | sure |
16:22 | reading | |
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16:30 | CGI729 | well took a look on that tread, still not very helpfull, it's an unresolved problem |
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16:30 | CGI729 | what could it be? |
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17:22 | cait | hi #koha |
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17:31 | * owen | cheers for some statistics numbers that actually add up! |
17:31 | cait | :) |
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17:50 | * chris_n | did not realize that you could hack Koha into a CMS |
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18:41 | cait | hmpf opac-detail has some serious translation problems :( |
18:46 | owen | Like what cait? |
18:46 | cait | I just updated the bug |
18:47 | bug 4208 | |
18:47 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4208 critical, P1, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, Many submit buttons are not translatable in 3.2 |
18:47 | cait | should have opened a new bug... |
18:48 | is it ok to change that bug to blocker? | |
18:49 | owen | If translations don't work, I would think so |
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18:49 | cait | opac-detail is very important in opac, submit buttons too |
18:50 | I thought updating the po files would help, it did solve my other problem with serials in intranet yesterday | |
18:58 | owen | Oh man all the TMPL_IFs in that Syndetics code is making my eyes hurt! |
18:59 | It's no wonder the translator is choking on it | |
19:00 | cait | translator: (too confused to show details) |
19:00 | :) | |
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19:03 | cait | I have another small bug in serials where a link is not translated, will try to solve that |
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19:04 | owen | Anyone around who has worked with this Syndetics code? jdavidb? |
19:04 | jdavidb | A teeny little bit, yeah. David Birmingham has spent more time on it than I have. |
19:05 | owen | The Syndetics cover markup in the template: |
19:05 | <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="normalized_upc" -->&upc=<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="normalized_upc" --><!-- /TMPL_IF --><!-- TMPL_IF NAME="normalized_oclc" -->&oclc=<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="normalized_oclc" --><!-- /TMPL_IF --> | |
19:06 | Do you know if there is a reason why it couldn't send both &upc=&oclc= ? | |
19:06 | I'm assuming only one would be populated? | |
19:07 | Actually I guess I can't assume that from the code, but I wonder if it's a problem if the URL contains an empty parameter: &upc=&oclc=[some number] | |
19:08 | If that was the case we could take the TMPL_IFs out from inside the <img> tag and make the translator happy | |
19:08 | jdavidb | I don't know from experience, but intuitively, normally only one would be, I would think. I don't know if that causes issues at Syndetics. |
19:09 | owen | I could create a patch, but I can't test since I don't have a SyndeticsClientCode |
19:11 | CC you or jwagner on the bug jdavidb? | |
19:11 | cait | thx for your help owen |
19:12 | jdavidb | yes, please.. I'll pass it along on this end, see if DLB knows anything. |
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19:13 | mib_7fjw2v | hi |
19:13 | cait | we dont have a SyndeticsClientCode, not sure there are German libraries using Syndetics |
19:13 | mib_7fjw2v | looking for help |
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19:14 | owen | providing help |
19:14 | mib_7fjw2v | good |
19:14 | i's like to know why my koha doesn't display the calendar | |
19:14 | any sugestion? | |
19:15 | cait | the calendar page in tools or the calendar to set dates? |
19:15 | owen | What version of Koha? What browser? |
19:15 | mib_7fjw2v | both |
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19:18 | ebegin | mib_7fjw2v in Firefox, you can open the Java Console, you will probably have some info there when trying to display the calendar. (Tools » Java Console) |
19:19 | mib_7fjw2v | my koha version is 3.02 and my browser is mozilla firefox |
19:19 | ebegin | mib_7fjw2v, which language? are java scripts reachable? |
19:19 | mib_7fjw2v | you think is a problem with java? |
19:20 | becouse thats what i was thinking | |
19:21 | ebegin | yes, that would be my guess |
19:21 | mib_7fjw2v | well, everything seemed to be working with java |
19:23 | another thing, my sistem is set on spanish | |
19:23 | ebegin | English language? |
19:23 | ok :) | |
19:24 | mib_7fjw2v | does that matter? |
19:24 | owen | mib_7fjw2v: Were you able to pull up Firefox's error console? |
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19:25 | cait | owen: you are fast :) |
19:25 | ebegin | what is spanish language code? sp? |
19:25 | mib_7fjw2v | the firefoxs error says: calendar is not defined |
19:26 | owen | cait: It was a pretty simple fix (assuming it works for you and for Syndetics users) |
19:26 | ebegin | make sure you have the file <kohainstalldir>/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/<SPANISH LANGAUGE CODE>/includes/calendar.inc |
19:27 | wizzyrea_laptop | I think es is the code for español |
19:27 | ebegin | wizzyrea_laptop, I should have though of this :) |
19:27 | s/though/thought | |
19:27 | mib_7fjw2v | yes: the code is es |
19:28 | cait | owen: I dont know how to apply patches to my installation (my git knowledge is very limited) but will test as soon as I find out or when its available in git |
19:29 | owen | Are you testing on HEAD cait? |
19:30 | cait | yes |
19:31 | I use git pull for updating my installation, but need to learn more about how to work with branches and updating them | |
19:31 | owen | cait I just emailed you the updated opac-detail.tmpl if you want to give it a try |
19:32 | cait | kf: nice! will try |
19:33 | owen: got the file, thx :) | |
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19:35 | owen | Any luck mib_7fjw2v ? |
19:36 | mib_7fjw2v: You should also be able to reach http:// [your koha URL ]/intranet-tmpl/prog/es/lib/calendar/calendar.js | |
19:38 | * chris_n | stands very much corrected on Koha being a CMS :-\ |
19:38 | cait | oh my, to fix the translation bug in claims I need a missing issue - but not able to save a subscription? |
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19:40 | nengard | wizzyrea |
19:40 | regarding the amazon thing | |
19:40 | if i click that link it takes me to the login | |
19:40 | cait | can someone try and add a subscription in current head? |
19:40 | nengard | has anyone signed up recently? do you know if you create a key when you create an account? |
19:40 | I already have an account | |
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19:43 | owen | cait: I was able to save a new subscription. Are you getting an error? |
19:43 | cait | no, I get the summary page but its empty |
19:44 | the field labels show, but no content | |
19:44 | I filled out everything, tested my prediction pattern, no irregularities and saved. | |
19:44 | when I search for subscriptions there are none | |
19:44 | wizzyrea_laptop | nengard: what we need is a link to somewhere you can sign up for an amazon assoc id |
19:45 | it's apparently not on the AWS site | |
19:45 | nengard | yeah - that i know - but if you don't have an account first that link won't work |
19:45 | or if you're not logged in | |
19:45 | wizzyrea_laptop | https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/ |
19:45 | may be a better one | |
19:45 | nengard | so what i need to know is if when you sign up do you get an id then |
19:45 | wizzyrea_laptop | giant "join now for free" button |
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19:46 | nengard | will that give you an id? |
19:46 | wizzyrea_laptop | i'm about to find out |
19:46 | nengard | i have an account already :) so I can't |
19:46 | cait | I have some error messages in the koha-error.log http://pastebin.com/mCMyFxxC |
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19:48 | wizzyrea_laptop | yes, indeed that does give you an amazon assoc d |
19:48 | id | |
19:49 | nengard | good |
19:49 | then documentation will be pushed and i thnk that means it will be up to date on the web tomorrow | |
19:50 | wizzyrea_laptop | yep, I'll update it tomorrow (must remember to schedule that...) |
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19:50 | nengard | k - session over -time to move |
19:50 | wizzyrea_laptop | gl :) |
19:50 | nengard | be back later |
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19:53 | cait | ah, I missed the important error messages in pastebin: http://pastebin.com/3sGbekgY |
20:01 | owen: you can add subscriptions without problems? have you set and end date? | |
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20:03 | owen | cait: I'm not positive I added an end date |
20:04 | cait | owen: I had no subscriptions before, perhaps this could be a problem? can you take a look at the 2 first error messages in my secons pastebin link? |
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20:05 | owen | "unknown column" makes it sound like there is a problem with your database structure, but I'm not really sure |
20:06 | cait | there is only startdate and firstacqdate in my subscriptions table... |
20:06 | am i magnetic to bugs today? | |
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20:08 | owen | cait: sounds like you missed a database update somewhere along the way |
20:08 | cait | http://spedr.com/223cd bad timing perhaps |
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20:11 | owen | cait: You can try manually rolling back your Koha version number in system preferences to trigger an updatedateabase |
20:11 | cait | oh, thats a good idea |
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20:14 | cait | its seems to be missing in the new syspref editor |
20:15 | redmr | i set i the associates id in my "More searches" anchor link. works fine. When I get the book covers, should those have my &tag=xxxxxxxxx in them as well? |
20:15 | owen | cait: You can still go to admin/systempreferences.pl to get the old version |
20:16 | cait | owen: you are great |
20:16 | redmr | When i add the tag to the extended content, what links actually get the associates id added? |
20:17 | owen | I'll have to quit while I'm ahead. Time to go! |
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20:17 | cait | owen++ |
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20:21 | cait | @later tell owen can add subscriptions now - thx! |
20:21 | munin | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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20:42 | * chris | is happy to see the arabic guys discussing zebra on the koha-community.org site ... that's how it should be |
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20:52 | richard | hi |
20:52 | * chris | |
20:52 | chris | heh |
20:52 | richard | :) |
20:54 | cait | hi chris |
20:54 | chris | heya cait and richard |
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20:58 | brendan | kohacon++ |
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21:05 | cait | chris: I forgot that updating my po files will kill the translated submit buttons :( |
21:06 | @karma translation | |
21:06 | munin | cait: translation has neutral karma. |
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21:32 | chris | cait: looks like owen is busy fixing that |
21:33 | cait | no thats another bug, got confuing because I added another problem to the bug (which turned out to be not related) |
21:33 | chris | ahh |
21:33 | so then its probably just because the fix has not been pushed up | |
21:33 | ill chat to gmcharlt about that | |
21:33 | cait | there is a patch for the first bug (submit buttons), but its not in head yet. I think you added the patch locally. |
21:33 | chris | yeah |
21:34 | cait | :) |
21:34 | I just send a patch for bug 4399 | |
21:34 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4399 enhancement, P5, ---, katrin.fischerbsz-bw.de, NEW, Untranslated link 'Export selected items data' in claims.tmpl |
21:34 | cait | not sure my git-email worked |
21:35 | chris | don't see it yet |
21:36 | cait | will wait till tomorrow, to tired now |
21:36 | chris | :) |
21:36 | sleep well | |
21:36 | cait | it takes me forever to fix such small things :( |
21:37 | chris | you'll get faster, everyone starts slow |
21:37 | cait | I really want to believe you :) good night! |
21:37 | larsw | I confirm what chris said |
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21:45 | mib_3xhl0q | hello, all |
21:45 | i have a question | |
21:46 | i've cataloged a title: 245 a$ North Star. p$ Reading and writing. | |
21:46 | but in the OPAC the title appears as only: North Star. | |
21:46 | How can I make sure the rest of the title appears? | |
21:49 | chris | what version of koha? |
21:50 | mib_3xhl0q | let me check... |
21:51 | 3.00.02.012 | |
21:55 | that's the version i'm using | |
21:55 | chris | ahh in the newer versions i would tell you to turn on the XSLT |
21:55 | for the opac-detail | |
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21:55 | chris | its a systempreference |
21:55 | and that should show the full title | |
21:56 | mib_3xhl0q | boy, oh boy |
21:56 | chris | for 3.0.2 im not sure that exists, take a look in systempreferences |
21:56 | in the opac tab | |
21:56 | mib_3xhl0q | i'll take a look right now... |
21:56 | chris | and see if there is one |
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21:57 | mib_3xhl0q | XSLTDetailsDisplay |
21:57 | that it? | |
21:58 | seems that might be it | |
21:58 | chris | yeah, try that |
21:58 | fingers crossed :) | |
21:58 | mib_3xhl0q | just turn it ON, right |
21:59 | just did... noe i jkust have to check the OPAC and see how it lloks? | |
21:59 | sorry for the garbled typing | |
22:01 | it worked! | |
22:01 | chris | yay! |
22:02 | mib_3xhl0q | thank you! |
22:03 | chris | no worries |
22:04 | mib_3xhl0q | if i wanted a bit more space between title and subtitle, i would have to know CSS, I guess |
22:06 | chris | yeah :) |
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22:21 | chris_n | wiki, wow! |
22:27 | richard | beginning to think i should email the nz-libs email list and say it wasn't katipo who made the new site |
22:27 | for lianza | |
22:27 | oops | |
22:27 | chris_n | heya richard |
22:27 | richard | cripes, wrong channel |
22:28 | hi chris_n | |
22:28 | chris | heh i did that just before too |
22:28 | * chris_n | hates pressing 'send' before finishing an email |
22:29 | chris_n | or worse yet... sending it to the wrong person because auto-complete screwed up |
22:30 | larsw | I use Evolution for e-mail... it uses control-backspace to delete the word before the cursor, and control-enter to send an email... |
22:30 | backspace and enter being right next to each other, sometimes I send e-mail with words I would really not have | |
22:31 | richard | never got going with evolution. had thunderbird on a windows machine and stuck with that for my ubuntu one |
22:31 | chris_n | heh |
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22:37 | wizzyrea_laptop | anyone can tell you that I have a terrible time with "reply to list" |
22:39 | chris | :) |
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