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| 00:08 | Jo joined #koha | |
| 00:08 | Jo | hi all |
| 00:09 | braedon|work | ahoy Jo |
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| 00:19 | chris | hi Jo |
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| 00:33 | Jo | Chris :) |
| 00:33 | hello stranger | |
| 00:33 | me the stranger that is | |
| 00:34 | Trustees acceopted the koha rules with 1 change - that people with criminal convictions are not eleigible to be officeholders on the Koha subcommittee | |
| 00:34 | russ | :-) |
| 00:34 | chris | sounds fair enough to me |
| 00:34 | Jo | waves at Russ too :) |
| 00:35 | * braedon|work | feels rejected |
| 00:35 | Jo | I don't imagine that will cause any ruckus in the Koha community. |
| 00:35 | waves and blows kisses at the entire Koha community :) | |
| 00:36 | the other thing is that the Councillors who were at our meeting suggested that the mayor should be asked / invited to host a mayoral reception for KohaCon attendees | |
| 00:36 | welcome them to Horowhenua etc | |
| 00:36 | just writing that letter and wondered about which date we should suggest. | |
| 00:37 | chris | i think you need to talk to Mark at ASHS about that |
| 00:37 | Jo | I did poiont out it could feasibly be anything between 100 - 300 people but they wreren't fazed by that :) |
| 00:37 | russ | right |
| 00:37 | chris | wasnt part of the plan to do that as part of the road trip? |
| 00:37 | russ | but transporting that number to levin could be an issue |
| 00:37 | chris | yeah |
| 00:37 | Jo | buses I guess |
| 00:38 | I'll get a quote aye | |
| 00:38 | chris | can't hurt |
| 00:38 | the other thing is the time factor | |
| 00:38 | Jo | yep |
| 00:38 | coz it is 1.5 hours drive each way | |
| 00:38 | chris | it will eat up a good chunk of a day |
| 00:38 | yeah | |
| 00:38 | it would be neat tho | |
| 00:38 | Jo | late afternoon / evening |
| 00:39 | starting to get lighter october / november | |
| 00:39 | chris | yup |
| 00:39 | Jo | but would have to be leaving wgtn by 4pm to get away ahead of the traffic |
| 00:39 | chris | yeah, the other option would be the day after, ie thursday |
| 00:39 | Jo | would be neat but maybe too hard .... |
| 00:39 | chris | and start the hackfest on friday |
| 00:39 | Jo | yep |
| 00:40 | but we would lose a productive day | |
| 00:40 | chris | yeah but it might be nice to have that break, 3 days of thinking .. have a break and get back into |
| 00:40 | Jo | leaving wgtn at 4pm would mean we still get a good solid chunk of productivity |
| 00:40 | true. | |
| 00:40 | there might be marketing grant which could pay for the bus | |
| 00:41 | chris | yeah, wouldnt want to do that on any of the conference days, but maybe the first day of the hackfest could finish early |
| 00:41 | Jo | you know : selling our region to international tourists who will go and tell everyone at home how pretty naturte coast is |
| 00:41 | chris | :) |
| 00:41 | i figure get some quotes cant hurt | |
| 00:41 | Jo | train etc would be nightmare |
| 00:41 | chris | yup |
| 00:41 | Jo | ok. Ill get some quotes and bring them to next community meeting |
| 00:42 | chris | im sure we could get a reporter or 2 along |
| 00:42 | Jo | and will strat the inquiry process with the mayor and suggest it would be thursday early eveningveing |
| 00:42 | might try and tie it into tea on way back to wgtn | |
| 00:42 | chris | yeah thats a good idea |
| 00:42 | Jo | do we have any estimates at all on numbers we could be xpecting? |
| 00:43 | russ | less than 120 as that is all the room can hold |
| 00:43 | Jo | for planning, quoting purposes? - and I know they are all best guesses |
| 00:43 | cool :) | |
| 00:43 | chris | well yes and no |
| 00:43 | because ppl are bringing partners | |
| 00:44 | which might want to come to the reception, but not the conference | |
| 00:44 | but yeah it wouldnt be much more than that | |
| 00:44 | Jo | of course. ok - will say may be 50-150 :) |
| 00:44 | chris | so far (excluding, russ, jo and mark osborne) all the registrations have been from overseas |
| 00:45 | Jo | i am planning to bring 2 down with me (have booked 2 room apartment) |
| 00:45 | chris | but we havent really started a registration drive yet, will send out another email after the next meeting |
| 00:45 | Jo | sure. |
| 00:45 | chris | and maybe get you to forward it to the librarian type lists |
| 00:46 | Jo | so we suggest 28th Oct to the mayor |
| 00:46 | chris | as a tentative date |
| 00:47 | russ | heh i didnt realise the first day of conf is labour day |
| 00:48 | that is a bit of a pain - all the cafe's will have their stupid holiday surcharge | |
| 00:48 | chris | well theres quite a few now that don't |
| 00:48 | ill make a list of them | |
| 00:48 | :) | |
| 00:49 | ive started asking, then leaving if they do | |
| 00:50 | Jo | thats a powerful message |
| 00:51 | chris | maybe ill start |
| 00:51 | cantbudget.co.nz | |
| 00:51 | and list ones that have surcharges | |
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| 01:09 | russ | chris: sister site to our credit card one :-) ? |
| 01:09 | chris | good idea :) |
| 01:09 | probably be lots of crossover | |
| 01:14 | Jo | reflecting that Rosalie being fully prepared as a koha 3.2 trainer can only be a good thing for NZ koha prospects |
| 01:14 | though I think she was planning to retire :) | |
| 01:14 | chris | yup |
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| 03:34 | Amit_G | hi all |
| 03:34 | good morning chris | |
| 03:39 | richard | hi amit |
| 03:39 | * richard | reads back and realises that looking at the kohacon registration page isn't the same as filling it in |
| 03:42 | Amit_G | hi richard |
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| 03:56 | Amit_G | Any one tested koha-alpha on Centos5 |
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| 06:57 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
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| 08:02 | * magnus | wonders if wiki.koha.org should really be called Koha *Developer* Wiki |
| 08:06 | chris | not really the sql library, the meetings agenda/minutes ... the kohausers table etc |
| 08:07 | theres is lots of non developer stuff on there, including install guides | |
| 08:07 | just Koha Wiki would do | |
| 08:07 | but again, we cant change that | |
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| 08:17 | chris | hi IrmaCalyx |
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| 08:20 | kf | good morning |
| 08:24 | Amit_G | heya kf,, Ropuch |
| 08:27 | magnus | chris: ah yes, the old access to assets issue... :-( |
| 08:38 | IrmaCalyx | hi all |
| 08:43 | sorry ... last interruption ...now that my daughters are out to enjoy their Friday evening meet-up with friends | |
| 08:43 | May I be lazy and ask 1 question? | |
| 08:44 | Without looking it up... | |
| 08:44 | magnus | you can try... ;-) |
| 08:44 | IrmaCalyx | Sure it has been asked before |
| 08:44 | What is the max of rows for a bulk patron import? | |
| 08:45 | The requested resource | |
| 08:45 | does not allow request data with POST requests, or the amount of data provided in the request exceeds the capacity limit. | |
| 08:46 | Perhaps an answer magnus? ^.^ | |
| 08:47 | I can send you some sunshine and heat in exchange... | |
| 08:48 | magnus | that would be nice... but i never heard of a limit... |
| 08:48 | IrmaCalyx | so the file size can be unlimited? |
| 08:49 | The error message said: Request Entity Too Large | |
| 08:49 | magnus | there may be limits set by your server |
| 08:50 | IrmaCalyx | I see ... |
| 08:50 | magnus | i would try dividing the file into smaller files if it's huge |
| 08:51 | IrmaCalyx | It's less than 1.500 paton records |
| 08:52 | magnus | that doesn't sound huge... |
| 08:53 | IrmaCalyx | Something else might be happening. Client just emailed. Ok, sounds like I will have to ask my team |
| 08:54 | paul_p | hi irma & magnus (& anyone else around) |
| 08:55 | magnus | hi paul_p |
| 08:55 | IrmaCalyx | Thanks magnus... |
| 08:55 | hi Paul Ca va? | |
| 08:55 | paul_p | IrmaCalyx: yep, thanks. it's friday, the week end should be sunny, we feel spring coming. |
| 08:56 | IrmaCalyx | It's been a long winter! Enjoy |
| 09:00 | Our days have started to be noticably shorter since a week or so ... but happy it's giving you the early taste of spring ... mostly! | |
| 09:01 | :-) I am off for some dinner ... Good evening all. | |
| 09:02 | Have a good day | |
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| 11:26 | gmcharlt | greetings #koha |
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| 12:11 | kf | hi gmcharlt |
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| 12:22 | nengard | morning all |
| 12:23 | I have a 'trailing whitespace' question ... I'm getting these errors for patches of mine that haven't been pushed yet ... is this an issue on tmpl files? or just pl files? | |
| 12:23 | paul_p2 | good morning nengard & gmcharlt |
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| 12:44 | gmcharlt | nengard: trailing whitespace doesn't really matter as far as Koha source files are concerned |
| 12:45 | nengard | gmcharlt - okay -well I submitted follow ups to remove those errors anyway :) |
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| 13:01 | jwagner | @wunder 20740 |
| 13:01 | munin | jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 0.1�C (8:01 AM EST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.37 in 994.5 hPa (Falling). High Wind Warning in effect until 6 PM EST this evening... |
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| 13:04 | fallor | hi #koha :) |
| 13:11 | nengard | okay - i've added more acquisitions documentation - i think we could use an acq tutorial day hosted by biblibre :) |
| 13:11 | jwagner - i'd rather have high wind over my forcast | |
| 13:11 | @wunder 19030 | |
| 13:11 | munin | nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is -3.3�C (8:00 AM EST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect until noon EST today... |
| 13:13 | jwagner | nengard, not sure about that. The wind is REALLY strong (gusts 50-60 mph) which makes it VERY cold out there.... |
| 13:13 | One can cope with snow, but you can't shovel wind.... | |
| 13:13 | nengard | we have the wind too :) |
| 13:13 | it's 'blizzard conditions' | |
| 13:14 | jwagner | The best of both worlds! They say we may get a little snow today off the back side of the storm. |
| 13:14 | fallor | i think i found a bug in OPAC |
| 13:15 | Related subjects doesn't work right when using XSLTDetailsDisplay | |
| 13:16 | clicking on chained subject terms only does the search with the first term in the chain | |
| 13:17 | for example: http://koha.kepa.fi/cgi-bin/ko[…]biblionumber=1720 | |
| 13:17 | all the links do the search with "su:maailmanmusiikki" | |
| 13:18 | instead of "su:maailmanmusiikki and su:[whatever]" | |
| 13:18 | which is what you'd expect | |
| 13:18 | is this a known thingy? | |
| 13:18 | gmcharlt | @quote add <fallor> is this a known thingy? |
| 13:18 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #62 added. |
| 13:18 | gmcharlt | sorry, couldn't resist |
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| 13:19 | gmcharlt | fallor: does sound like a bug - file a report at bugs.koha.org |
| 13:19 | fallor | ok, will do :) |
| 13:19 | jdavidb | @quote random |
| 13:19 | munin | jdavidb: Quote #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)" (added by chris at 03:59 PM, June 23, 2009) |
| 13:20 | jdavidb | lol |
| 13:20 | jwagner | I'm looking on an OPAC at roughly .061 level and the related subject query link looks like q=an:3663 |
| 13:20 | Looks like major changes to that area? | |
| 13:21 | gmcharlt | jwagner: q=an: I think is used only if a heading is linked to an authority via a subfield $9 |
| 13:21 | otherwise, the search on subject terms is used isntead | |
| 13:22 | jwagner | gmcharlt, I think that's the case. Just checked a current head system and it still uses the an: -- we have authority records in the system. |
| 13:22 | Never mind.... | |
| 13:40 | @quote random | |
| 13:40 | munin | jwagner: Quote #40: "<tomascohen> hi everyone, just wanted to say I'm happy i managed to bypass the firewall to be with you *** tomascohen quit (Remote host closed the connection)" (added by ricardo at 11:05 AM, October 08, 2009) |
| 13:41 | tomascohen | that was great |
| 13:41 | jdavidb | @quote random |
| 13:41 | munin | jdavidb: Quote #14: "joetho: I only looked for missing ccodes- not dysfunctional orphans." (added by wizzyrea at 04:31 PM, July 09, 2009) |
| 13:47 | kf | @quote random |
| 13:47 | munin | kf: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 08:11 AM, July 27, 2009) |
| 13:50 | owen | fallor still here? |
| 13:50 | * owen | is wondering what version of Koha fallor is running |
| 13:54 | magnus | owen: he mentioned http://koha.kepa.fi/cgi-bin/ko[…]biblionumber=1720 which says <meta name="generator" content="Koha 3.0000107" /> |
| 13:54 | (or she, for all i know) | |
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| 14:09 | * owen | really needs to set up an install of 3.0.x for testing |
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| 14:17 | nengard | gmcharlt and paul_p2 what's the status on bug 3881 ? |
| 14:17 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3881 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulainbiblibre.com, NEW, No Page for Opac Privacy |
| 14:17 | gmcharlt | not pushed yet, will be working on patches this weekend |
| 14:20 | nengard | okey dokey!! |
| 14:24 | jwagner | I see snowflakes out my window! |
| 14:26 | nengard | LOL |
| 14:27 | owen | That doesn't help pin down your location very accurately jwagner |
| 14:27 | nengard | she's just seeing them now - that helps a bit - the rest of us on the east have had it non stop since yesterday |
| 14:27 | jwagner | @wunder 20740 |
| 14:27 | munin | jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 0.8�C (9:27 AM EST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.38 in 994.8 hPa (Falling). High Wind Warning in effect until 6 PM EST this evening... |
| 14:27 | jwagner | does that help, owen? |
| 14:28 | owen | Now we know where to bring the shovels if you stop broadcasting |
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| 14:29 | jwagner | Nah, the time for shovels was a couple of weeks ago. We're only supposed to get an inch or two max out of this one. |
| 14:34 | fallor | owen: yep, i'm still here |
| 14:35 | owen: yep, still here (or rather again) | |
| 14:35 | i'm repeating myself | |
| 14:35 | owen | Hi fallor, I was asking about your Koha version. |
| 14:36 | fallor | it's 3.00.something, let me check that for you |
| 14:36 | 3.00.00.107 is the exact version | |
| 14:37 | the demo system on liblime.com seems to do the same, i'm not sure which version that is | |
| 14:37 | owen | LibLime doesn't use real Koha, so don't check their demos |
| 14:38 | fallor | oh, they don't? |
| 14:38 | owen | LibLime has forked Koha. They don't release their developments to the community anymore. |
| 14:38 | fallor | err... how is that possible? |
| 14:38 | owen | But they won't give us access to koha.org, so we can't change the links there |
| 14:38 | fallor | i thought it's all gpl |
| 14:39 | owen | Check http://koha-community.org/ for current news |
| 14:39 | fallor | ah, ok |
| 14:39 | owen | Just because it's GPL doesn't mean they can't fork |
| 14:39 | fallor | still they can't change the license can they? |
| 14:40 | owen | No, but as long as they're hosting Koha for their customers, and as long as their customers never ask to see the actual code... |
| 14:40 | fallor | so much for the ethics side on that... |
| 14:41 | so liblime is becoming sort of a google of oss-librarysystems | |
| 14:42 | they take everything they can but give practically nothing back | |
| 14:42 | owen | I think that characterization is unfair to Google ;) |
| 14:42 | paul_p2 | yep, I agree with owen |
| 14:42 | fallor | whoa! :D |
| 14:43 | so how long has this been going on? | |
| 14:43 | paul_p2 | something like 6 months ? |
| 14:43 | publicly => sept, 11th, when they announced publicly LLEK | |
| 14:43 | (LL Entreprise Koha) | |
| 14:45 | fallor | that's a shame :( |
| 14:48 | owen | paul_p2: Perhaps you or hdl_laptop could test Bug 4276 in 3.0.x? I suspect it's fixed in a more recent version than fallor has |
| 14:48 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4276 normal, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, "Related subjects" search is OPAC doesn't work with chained subject terms |
| 14:54 | magnus | is "Computer networks --Law and legislation --United States." here: http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/[…]pl?biblionumber=2 an appropriate example? |
| 14:55 | owen | That's the right kind of thing, but fallor's looking at the XSL view |
| 14:57 | Hm... Actually it looks like this is still a problem | |
| 14:57 | magnus | owen: changed it to XSLT now, doesn't look too good (on HEAD) |
| 14:59 | paul_p2 | mmm... I suspect it's a marc21 related bug, because in UNIMARC it works well |
| 15:03 | fallor | whoops, barcode generator started acting up |
| 15:03 | (whatonearth...?) | |
| 15:06 | it went from 1524, 15257, 15283, 152847 | |
| 15:06 | doesn't seem too linear for me :D | |
| 15:06 | what's this about? | |
| 15:08 | owen | paul_p2: What are UNIMARC's subject tags? Is it a range of numbers like MARC21's 6** ? |
| 15:08 | paul_p2 | owen: yep, it's 6xx |
| 15:10 | it's in C4/Biblio.pm/GetMarcSubjects | |
| 15:11 | strange, it's almost the same code (unimarc skip $2$3$4$5 where marc21 skip only $2) | |
| 15:14 | fallor | where does that excess 7 come from?? |
| 15:15 | owen | paul_p2: The XSL views don't use GetMarcSubjects do they? |
| 15:17 | gmcharlt | owen: they do not |
| 15:17 | paul_p2 | oups... sorry, you're right |
| 15:17 | should be a bug in xslt view | |
| 15:18 | fallor | strange things... |
| 15:20 | owen | gmcharlt: Okay if I assign this one to you? |
| 15:24 | gmcharlt | owen: sure |
| 15:26 | fallor | gmcharlt: will that be a hard thing to fix? |
| 15:26 | gmcharlt | no |
| 15:26 | fallor | can you estimate how long will it take? |
| 15:27 | wizzyrea_ | patience is a virtue |
| 15:28 | gmcharlt | fallor: we'll see - I also have to get a release of 3.2 out, after all |
| 15:30 | * jwagner | hands gmcharlt a time machine to get more hours in the day |
| 15:31 | fallor | i'll see if there is something i can do about it myself |
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| 15:31 | fallor | i'm not an expert in this kind of things in any way, but i'll let you know if i succeed in doing something about it |
| 15:32 | now to home, big evening today | |
| 15:32 | owen | Is anyone doing anything interesting with unapi and Koha? |
| 15:32 | fallor | finland-usa hockey @22 :) |
| 15:33 | exiting... :) | |
| 15:33 | owen | Or examples of unapi being used with other systems? |
| 15:33 | * jwagner | is cheering on USA! |
| 15:34 | jwagner | despite the women's team loss yesterday.... |
| 15:36 | fallor | well as a finn you know what i'll be cheering ;) |
| 15:37 | jwagner | I've had a problem with watching the hockey -- I'm an NHL hockey fan, so I have favorite players scattered across multiple national teams. Sometimes hard to know which side to cheer for! |
| 15:38 | gmcharlt | fallor: cool - go for it - if you can do a patch, that would be great |
| 15:45 | kf | bye #koha and have a nice weekend all |
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| 16:01 | schuster | I have a question while looking at the KohaCon 2010 information. |
| 16:02 | Oct 25th is a monday - 3 day conference - ends Wednesday. So Thursday/Friday - then a free weekend? hackfest continues Monday/Tuesday? | |
| 16:02 | 4 day hackfest. | |
| 16:03 | Just trying to see if I could swing it. Problem would be the majority of the expense coming out of my pocket... | |
| 16:05 | Is anyone looking for a room mate ??? | |
| 16:05 | * owen | vouches for schuster |
| 16:06 | schuster | owen - meaning same question or? vouches - I would be allowed to come? ;) |
| 16:07 | owen | I'm just letting everyone know that I think you'd make a good room mate :) |
| 16:09 | schuster | LOL... Thanks... Trying to figure out time conversions... |
| 16:19 | jwagner | hdl_laptop or paul_p, online? |
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| 16:35 | nengard | training bugs all reported ... sorry to those dealing with reports/acq and serials :( |
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| 17:00 | gmcharlt | is anybody else able to get to translate.koha.org? |
| 17:01 | nengard | doesn't look like it on my end |
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| 17:01 | owen | translate.koha.org seems to be going down daily now |
| 17:04 | nengard | loaded for me finally |
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| 17:13 | brendan | morning #koha |
| 17:13 | @wunder 93117 | |
| 17:13 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.3�C (9:11 AM PST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect for the recent burn areas from this evening through Saturday evening... |
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| 18:08 | brendan | hmmm... quiet at the moment |
| 18:09 | gmcharlt | BOOM! |
| 18:09 | brendan | YEAH! |
| 18:09 | gmcharlt | that help? |
| 18:09 | brendan | thanks gmcharlt++ |
| 18:09 | jwagner | and I was enjoying the peace and quiet :-) |
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| 19:05 | brendan | @karma |
| 19:05 | munin | brendan: Highest karma: "chris" (110), "gmcharlt" (109), and "owen" (89). Lowest karma: "<!" (-43), "failed" (-26), and "-" (-21). You (brendan) are ranked 18 out of 723. |
| 19:06 | brendan | ooooH close one |
| 19:06 | owen++ | |
| 19:06 | chris | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 19:06 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on February 27, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:06 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 19:06 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.3�C (11:01 AM PST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect for the recent burn areas from this evening through Saturday evening... |
| 19:06 | chris | gonna be a nice date |
| 19:06 | brendan | morning chris |
| 19:06 | chris | day even |
| 19:06 | hiya brendan | |
| 19:06 | cait | hi chris and brendan |
| 19:06 | chris | hi cait |
| 19:07 | brendan | so finally home and slept in my bed... did wonders for my neck and back :) |
| 19:07 | hi cait | |
| 19:07 | amazing how little things like that have such a big effect | |
| 19:07 | @karma brendan | |
| 19:07 | munin | brendan: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 16 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 16. |
| 19:07 | brendan | :) |
| 19:08 | cait | @karma cait |
| 19:08 | munin | cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
| 19:08 | brendan | cait++ |
| 19:08 | cait | oh thx :) |
| 19:08 | chris | yeah hotel beds can really mess you up |
| 19:09 | that and the fact you usually sleep way less than you need at conferences :) | |
| 19:09 | brendan | I think it was the plane flights -- the people I was sitting next too - should have had two seats to themselves instead of one |
| 19:09 | I was crammed in the corner and I body felt like a big C | |
| 19:10 | s/I/my | |
| 19:10 | chris | hehe |
| 19:10 | i hear that | |
| 19:11 | make sure to ask for an exit row on the flight to NZ | |
| 19:11 | jdavidb | cait++ # agreeing with brendan. |
| 19:11 | cait | wow thx jdavidb |
| 19:12 | but not sure I m worth that much karma | |
| 19:13 | gmcharlt | cait++ # we disagree |
| 19:13 | jdavidb | Sure you are. Patches are not the only thing that make a good community, and karma isn't tied to patch-count (don't tell gmcharlt I said that.) you're nice to have around here. |
| 19:13 | chris | gonna try upgrading pootle from 2.0.0 to 2.0.2 |
| 19:13 | which might make it stop crashing, or it might break everything | |
| 19:13 | we'll soon find out | |
| 19:14 | gmcharlt | jdavidb: I can always decrement one whenever I push one of your patches, if you would prefer ;) |
| 19:14 | jdavidb | gmcharlt: oh, I don't mind getting incremented on patches. But is nice to get incremented on other stuff too. |
| 19:14 | gmcharlt | agreed |
| 19:14 | * cait | blushes |
| 19:14 | brendan | jdavidb++ |
| 19:15 | funny how my linux# doesn't understand that command | |
| 19:15 | jdavidb | 'sides, if you decrement on patch-count, I'd be ahead of jwagner, maybe... now then....hmmm. |
| 19:15 | * brendan | should make sure he's on the right screen |
| 19:16 | jdavidb | thanx, brendan! |
| 19:17 | * jdavidb | has done a weary-ingly-large amount of work this week, most of it invisibly. |
| 19:20 | cait | chris: good luck! |
| 19:24 | chris | ok, upgrade done, now im refreshing stats then ill start pootle again |
| 19:30 | * jwagner | tells jdavidb Harrumph. Leave my karma alone! |
| 19:30 | jdavidb | @karma jdavidb |
| 19:30 | munin | jdavidb: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 17 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 17. |
| 19:30 | jdavidb | @karma jwagner |
| 19:30 | munin | jdavidb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 19 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 19. |
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| 19:41 | chris | waiting waiting, halfway thru the intranet po files now |
| 19:42 | brendan | @quote random |
| 19:42 | munin | brendan: Quote #14: "joetho: I only looked for missing ccodes- not dysfunctional orphans." (added by wizzyrea at 04:31 PM, July 09, 2009) |
| 19:43 | * cait | is waiting with chris |
| 19:43 | cait | @quote random |
| 19:43 | munin | cait: Quote #52: "<wizzyrea> Ahh, it's like putting on your slippers" (added by gmcharlt at 03:50 PM, January 28, 2010) |
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| 19:44 | brendan | hi nelsonf |
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| 19:58 | chris | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 19:58 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on February 27, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:59 | gmcharlt | @wunder 32605 |
| 20:00 | munin | gmcharlt: The current temperature in FoxFire Woods, Gainesville, Florida is 14.4�C (2:59 PM EST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:00 | chris | ill pass you in about 20 mins i think gmcharlt |
| 20:00 | its bright blue sky .. sunscreen day today | |
| 20:00 | ok translate.koha.org is back | |
| 20:00 | cait: can you give it a try | |
| 20:01 | seems to be working as it should | |
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| 20:03 | * gmcharlt | looked at the completion bar for Basque, blinked, then realized that it was just for the Gnome terminology set |
| 20:03 | nengard | chris - works here - a bit slow but it works |
| 20:03 | chris | hehe yeah |
| 20:04 | nengard: cool thanks | |
| 20:04 | pabloab | Hi all! |
| 20:04 | chris | hiya pabloab |
| 20:05 | pabloab | Just a simple question! Someone know who have rights to delete articles on koha's wiki? |
| 20:05 | chris | anyone does |
| 20:06 | anyone with a login | |
| 20:06 | pabloab | I was trying to cleanup things (is a mess!) |
| 20:06 | gmcharlt | pabloab: edit the page, set it to empty |
| 20:06 | chris | then delete links to it |
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| 20:06 | chris | and its gone |
| 20:07 | bbiab | |
| 20:08 | pabloab | oops! just clean all the content? I'm familiar with wikipedia, where only "vip users" (librarians) can delete |
| 20:08 | cait | chris: sorry was afk, pootle works fine for me |
| 20:08 | chris++ | |
| 20:09 | gmcharlt | pabloab: yep |
| 20:09 | pabloab | Excelent! Thanks! |
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| 20:12 | pabloab | Another: There is a reason why no one on english community dares to move all those articles to en:wiki namespace ? |
| 20:13 | gmcharlt | there's been at least one major namespace move recently that wasn't completed |
| 20:13 | jdavidb | hi, pianohackr|work! :) |
| 20:13 | chris | pabloab: just time |
| 20:13 | gmcharlt | I've no objection in principle, but some of the URLs such as the git tutorial are now well known URLs |
| 20:14 | chris | i have one more thing to try, currently pootle is using sqlite for its stats, now tha file is 1.8gig |
| 20:14 | im gonna try to make it use mysql instead | |
| 20:14 | but not today | |
| 20:14 | today im going to the dragon boat festival | |
| 20:15 | pabloab | I was trying to fix someones, but I wasn't brave enough to move from here to there, perhaps breaking something |
| 20:15 | chris | back later |
| 20:16 | pianohackr|work | hola, jdavidb |
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| 20:21 | jwagner | 3-0 US over Finland, early in first period :-) |
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| 20:40 | cait | will go to bed - good night #koha! |
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| 20:40 | wizzyrea_ | gnite cait |
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| 21:23 | jwagner | In the old_issues table, is the timestamp the date/time the item was returned? |
| 21:25 | brendan | timestamp is a mysql thing meaning the last time that row was touched |
| 21:26 | jwagner | What would touch it in the old_issues table? Anything besides the act of checking it in? (i.e., moving from issues to old_issues) |
| 21:28 | brendan | not sure about that - |
| 21:28 | most likely that should be your answer | |
| 21:29 | jwagner | I have a puzzler where an overdue notice went out after the item was allegedly returned. The copy of the email notice has a date/time that doesn't match the message queue, and the item record shows a return date of one thing while the timestamp is a day later. I'm wondering if someone is monkeying with bookdrop or something. |
| 21:31 | The grace period in circ rules only applies to fines, right? Not to overdues? | |
| 21:31 | brendan | it could also be a difference between the time on the server (where mysql gets it timestamp) versus the time that the browser is using (but don't quote me on that one) |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea_ | jwagner: any time we've seen anything like that it's always been human intervention |
| 21:31 | jwagner | Hmmm. Time zone could be a possibility too -- server is on east coast, site/user is on west coast. |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea_ | like, the bookdrop was processed late |
| 21:32 | jwagner | I think time zone accounts for the email difference, but the timestamp is too far off for that. I'll have the site librarian interrogate her staff :-) |
| 21:52 | brendan | could also be the server is on UTC time and not east cost time |
| 21:52 | but I wouldn't think that was totally true (just a guess) | |
| 21:52 | jwagner | No, server is definitely East Coast time -- everything else is OK. |
| 21:53 | brendan | :) |
| 21:54 | jwagner | I think it's a helpful desk staff person.... |
| 21:55 | But I'll worry about it on Monday. Have a good weekend, everyone. | |
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| 22:11 | CGI722 | can someone help a koha newbie out? |
| 22:12 | brendan | go ahead and ask |
| 22:12 | CGI722 | sweet! thanks....we just installed koha 3.00.004 on a CentOS 5.3 box |
| 22:13 | imported about 20k MARC records | |
| 22:13 | during the import, the records came over but no items | |
| 22:13 | so we added a couple of items manually just to test the system out | |
| 22:13 | when we add 1 item to a record, public queries work | |
| 22:14 | but if we add another item to the same record, we get a 404 page | |
| 22:14 | this would be another item with a different barcode, but same title | |
| 22:15 | when do see the title in the search results, but clicking the title is when we get the 404 | |
| 22:15 | if i remove the second item i added, the 404 goes away | |
| 22:15 | and we get a valid result | |
| 22:15 | brendan | hmmm.. I haven't seen that before |
| 22:15 | maybe someone else here will help out | |
| 22:16 | CGI722 | do you think i am adding items incorrectly? |
| 22:18 | wizzyrea_ | oh this sounds very vaguely familiar... |
| 22:19 | like, something I've seen in my many failures at installing koha... | |
| 22:19 | CGI722 | haha ok, well that makes me feel a little better |
| 22:19 | brendan | wow wizzyrea_ way to be nice! |
| 22:19 | wizzyrea_ | you have itemtypes defined and all that? |
| 22:20 | man, i've failed at installing koha in so many creative ways | |
| 22:20 | ;) | |
| 22:20 | CGI722 | yeah, was using the default item types |
| 22:20 | so for that particular case, item type is book for both entries | |
| 22:21 | wizzyrea_ | and it works with one item, but adding another gives a 404... |
| 22:21 | OH | |
| 22:21 | um um | |
| 22:21 | CGI722 | yes |
| 22:21 | wizzyrea_ | XSLT stylesheets for opac, on or off? |
| 22:21 | CGI722 | no idea, let me check |
| 22:21 | hmm where is that? haha | |
| 22:22 | wizzyrea_ | system administration -> preferences search for XSLT |
| 22:22 | CGI722 | Set to Off for XSLTDetailsDisplay and XSLTResultsDisplay |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea_ | brendan: try turning them on |
| 22:23 | er | |
| 22:23 | wrong person lol | |
| 22:23 | 722, try turning them on | |
| 22:23 | CGI722 | lol it's cool, let me try thanks |
| 22:23 | schuster | by all. |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea_ | bye schuster |
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| 22:24 | CGI722 | same problem |
| 22:24 | still get a 404 | |
| 22:24 | with all these options i could change these for a week! | |
| 22:25 | brendan | hi wizzyrea_ |
| 22:26 | CGI722 | does this sound like a bug or maybe I just didn't setup the site correctly? |
| 22:26 | wizzyrea_ | well usually it works |
| 22:26 | CGI722 | i guess i could blow away all the data, and enter 1 book and see what happens |
| 22:27 | wizzyrea_ | does your koha log say anything? |
| 22:30 | CGI722 | well.... |
| 22:30 | i'm not really sure if it's helpful...i don't see any debugging output, just ADD, MODIFY, DELETE entries | |
| 22:31 | wizzyrea_ | the log on the server? |
| 22:31 | or the log within the web interface? | |
| 22:31 | CGI722 | i'm checking the Koha Log Viewer |
| 22:32 | I just installed this yesterday, so I'm pretty inexperienced with using it and troubleshooting | |
| 22:33 | wizzyrea_ | yea, I'd look at the koha log on the server; I can't remember what the default standard install location for it is, brendan probably knows though |
| 22:33 | <- can only keep so much in her mind at once | |
| 22:34 | you could try a locate koha-error_log | |
| 22:35 | CGI722 | in var logs |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea_ | then tail -f /path/to/koha-error_log |
| 22:35 | CGI722 | i see it, they are quite large |
| 22:36 | wizzyrea_ | is this public on the internet? Could we look at it? |
| 22:36 | CGI722 | its internal right now |
| 22:36 | brendan | it's something like koha/var/log |
| 22:37 | wizzyrea_ | yea, standard install I think is /var/log/koha/koha-error_log or somesuch |
| 22:37 | but I didn't know for sure | |
| 22:37 | * wizzyrea_ | doesn't do it that way, usually |
| 22:38 | CGI722 | looks like i got a perl backtrace |
| 22:38 | wizzyrea_ | you can paste it here |
| 22:38 | http://paste.workbuffer.org/ | |
| 22:39 | just be sure to set your channel :) | |
| 22:39 | pastebot | "CGI722" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "backtrace from a query that gets a 404" (174 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/4 |
| 22:40 | CGI722 | sweet |
| 22:40 | not sure what i'm looking at though | |
| 22:41 | brendan | wizzyrea_ could just be an indexing issue |
| 22:41 | wizzyrea_ | doesn't usually 404 on that though, at least I've never seen that |
| 22:41 | CGI722 | i did try a reindex |
| 22:41 | wizzyrea_ | and that wouldn't explain why they can find one item, but the 2nd doesn't show up |
| 22:41 | brendan | ok sorry distracted and off on another window :) |
| 22:41 | wizzyrea_ | or, it stops showing on the 2nd |
| 22:41 | sok :) | |
| 22:41 | CGI722 | i tried a reindex with rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z -a -v |
| 22:42 | i tried this too, took longer, rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -v | |
| 22:43 | would an incompatibility with a perl module cause this? I had to install quite a few of these to get the install to work | |
| 22:43 | i just used cpan to install them, let it handle the dependencies | |
| 22:45 | wizzyrea_ | hrm |
| 22:46 | CGI722 | think trying the 3.2.0 alpha would be worth a shot? or is that just a waste of time/ |
| 22:47 | wizzyrea_ | centOS... hmmm... |
| 22:47 | are you married to centOS? | |
| 22:48 | CGI722 | nope |
| 22:48 | wizzyrea_ | it really works the very best on debian |
| 22:48 | CGI722 | ok |
| 22:48 | i can redo the install on a debian vm | |
| 22:48 | i should be able to keep the data intact yes? | |
| 22:48 | as long as i install the same releaseA? | |
| 22:48 | wizzyrea_ | in theory, yea |
| 22:48 | (most likely :)) | |
| 22:49 | CGI722 | haha gotcha |
| 22:49 | * wizzyrea_ | hates to commit to statements like that |
| 22:49 | wizzyrea_ | ;) |
| 22:49 | CGI722 | i'm going to cut and paste that and hold you to it |
| 22:49 | wizzyrea_ | Nooooo! |
| 22:49 | CGI722 | jk |
| 22:49 | i will give that a shot | |
| 22:49 | thanks for the help! | |
| 22:50 | wizzyrea_ | the weekend is rough time to get folks, but come sunday/monday people will be around again |
| 22:50 | sure thing | |
| 22:50 | CGI722 | ok, appreciate it |
| 22:50 | wizzyrea_ | let us know how it turns out :) |
| 22:50 | CGI722 | will do |
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