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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:02 | chris_n2 | interesting: bugzilla uses TT |
| 00:33 | chris | yeah TT rules |
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| 02:00 | seneca | anyone here ever have a "deep recursion" problem? |
| 02:01 | any time I access request.pl, my CPU usage maxes out and I never get a response in the browser | |
| 02:06 | chris_n2 | seneca: what does the log say? |
| 02:14 | seneca | the apache error.log says: |
| 02:15 | crap...brb | |
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| 02:16 | seneca | ok |
| 02:16 | the apache error.log says: | |
| 02:16 | [Thu Jan 21 20:48:21 2010] Digit.pl: Deep recursion on subroutine "utf8::SWASHNEW" at /usr/share/perl/5.10/utf8_heavy.pl line 251, <DATA> line 275. | |
| 02:16 | [Thu Jan 21 20:48:21 2010] Digit.pl: Deep recursion on subroutine "CGI::Carp::die" at /usr/share/perl/5.10/utf8_heavy.pl line 198, <DATA> line 275. | |
| 02:16 | those two lines | |
| 02:18 | which I'm not sure I understand what it's saying | |
| 02:18 | with the "<DATA> line 275" bit at the end | |
| 02:19 | it's request.pl that slams the cpu, but this error makes it sound like it's a perl issue? | |
| 02:31 | chris_n2 | seneca: this is a 3.0.x version of Koha? |
| 02:32 | seneca | eah |
| 02:32 | latest "stable" as I was told today | |
| 02:32 | 3.0.5 | |
| 02:32 | just upgraded to it this evening | |
| 02:33 | running on Debian linux, and I'm upgrading everything else in the system right now, just to check | |
| 02:33 | * chris_n2 | looks |
| 02:35 | seneca | no change:( |
| 02:47 | just mailed the general mailing list with the problem | |
| 02:52 | is it most definitely bed time - goodnight all | |
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| 02:53 | chris_n2 | seneca: not sure what's up with your install, the latest 3.0.x branch request.pl works fine here |
| 02:53 | @later tell seneca: not sure what's up with your install, the latest 3.0.x branch request.pl works fine here | |
| 02:53 | munin | chris_n2: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:56 | chris_n2 | however, some error trapping is wanting for deep recursion to happen in any case, I think |
| 02:57 | g'night | |
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| 03:38 | Amit | hi brendan, chris |
| 03:38 | morning #koha | |
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| 08:01 | Amit | heya nicomo |
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| 08:05 | nicomo | hi Amit |
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| 08:17 | magnus | hi all |
| 08:17 | @wunder bodo, norway | |
| 08:17 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (8:50 AM CET on January 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:17 | magnus | windchill-- |
| 08:42 | nicomo_laptop | @wunder lyon france |
| 08:42 | munin | nicomo_laptop: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is -0.3�C (9:03 AM CET on January 22, 2010). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022.6 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:43 | nicomo_laptop | funny, doesn't feel like 0°C, feels warmer |
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| 09:56 | chipsy | hi guys, is it possible to install koha on virtual box |
| 09:57 | toins | chilts: of course |
| 09:57 | chipsy: of course | |
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| 10:01 | magnus | chipsy: there's even some ready-made images available: http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]irtual-appliance/ |
| 10:02 | chipsy | but while trying to install array::compare it couldn't |
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| 10:06 | chipsy | can i used diff barcodes other than the ones koha generate automatic |
| 10:12 | greenmang0 | @wunder mumbai |
| 10:12 | munin | greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0�C (3:10 PM IST on January 22, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:13 | greenmang0 | @wunder delhi |
| 10:13 | munin | greenmang0: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 10:13 | greenmang0 | munin: C00L BAWT |
| 10:13 | munin | greenmang0: Error: "C00L" is not a valid command. |
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| 12:39 | jwagner | Good morning all. |
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| 13:32 | * chris_n | learns a new git trick early today |
| 13:32 | chris_n | git checkout <tag> |
| 13:32 | lets you jump back to that tag and then return to your current work by git checkout <working branch> | |
| 13:36 | jwagner | I prefer the git checkout jdavidb trick, better known as squawking "David, HELP!!!!" |
| 13:36 | * jdavidb | cackles maniacally. |
| 13:37 | chris_n | you can git a list of tags by 'git tag' |
| 13:37 | * jdavidb | thinks he's answered more git questions so far in 2010 than he has answered Koha questions... |
| 13:37 | * chris_n | often consults with the oracle at #git |
| 13:37 | jwagner | Don't worry, we'll catch up on the Koha side :-) |
| 13:37 | jdavidb | I'm sure. |
| 13:37 | * chris_n | imagines jdavidb and jwagner on a treadmill that is getting faster and faster |
| 13:38 | jwagner | "Stop the world, I want to get off" :-) |
| 13:38 | chris_n | lol :-) |
| 13:38 | jdavidb | That's a good image, chris_n. Now, to make the image more realistic, imagine me with one leg, and jwagner with one foot all bandaged up, on that treadmill... |
| 13:38 | chris_n | hehe |
| 13:38 | jwagner | No problem, we'll just walk on our hands, right? |
| 13:38 | * chris_n | hands jdavidb a crutch |
| 13:39 | chris_n | then how will you type code? |
| 13:39 | jwagner | voice recognition software? |
| 13:40 | jdavidb | I had Dragon 8 on my PC in Abilene, when I was having a bout with carpal tunnel syndrome. Took a *while* to teach it how to understand perl coding. |
| 13:40 | * chris_n | has often thought it would be nice to 'think' code into vim |
| 13:41 | chris_n | wow, redhat has a very slick looking bugzilla interface |
| 13:52 | slef | hi all |
| 13:52 | jwagner | Morning, slef |
| 13:53 | slef | damn. can't see |
| 13:53 | brb | |
| 13:56 | that's better | |
| 13:58 | chris_n | howdy slef |
| 13:58 | @wunder Dunn, NC | |
| 13:58 | munin` | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 5.6�C (8:54 AM EST on January 22, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.41 in 995.8 hPa (Falling). |
| 13:59 | jwagner | @wunder Bethesda, MD |
| 14:00 | munin` | jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 1.3�C (8:57 AM EST on January 22, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 1 PM EST this afternoon... |
| 14:00 | jdavidb | @wunder 20817 |
| 14:00 | munin` | jdavidb: The current temperature in Potomac, Maryland is 1.5�C (8:54 AM EST on January 22, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006.3 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 1 PM EST this afternoon... |
| 14:01 | jdavidb | Neither one of those are "Bethesda." Sheesh. |
| 14:01 | jwagner | @wunder jwagner's office (no, the heat isn't fixed yet) |
| 14:01 | munin` | jwagner: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 14:02 | slef | so it looks like kohala have got their infernal Java app working, so I miss yet another CA meeting :-( |
| 14:03 | chris_n | kohala ??? |
| 14:03 | is that like 'koala'? | |
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| 14:13 | Nate | Hello #koha |
| 14:13 | I hope everyone is doing well today! | |
| 14:14 | hdl_laptop | hi jwagner |
| 14:14 | slef | chris_n: kohala is roughly the French KUDOS |
| 14:14 | chris_n | ahh |
| 14:15 | jwagner | Bonjour hdl_laptop, got your message. Thanks. |
| 14:16 | I finally have my hands on a current head version (thanks jdavidb), but it looks like your changes haven't solved the problem I ran into yesterday. | |
| 14:18 | hdl_laptop | what is the problem ? |
| 14:18 | jwagner: I saw your patch for inventory | |
| 14:19 | jwagner | Actually, your changes have kind of fixed it by eliminating it :-( Under Tools, Inventory, at our level (061) there were some problems with limiting by item type and/or location. Sometimes they would work, sometimes they wouldn't. Your version doesn't have either option to limit. |
| 14:20 | For the ones that didn't work, there are known items with those item types or locations, so it's not a matter of the query coming up empty. | |
| 14:21 | I didn't see a bug report on it, but I did see nengard's Bug 4037 referencing item type filter in the new version. That's why I suspected you'd done some work there. | |
| 14:21 | (Sheesh, bugzilla is SLOW today!) | |
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| 14:29 | jwagner | hdl_laptop, did you have a reason to remove the item type and location limits? |
| 14:30 | hdl_laptop | itemtype is quite tricky : since you have itype, itemtype, and ccode. |
| 14:30 | itemtype is at bibliolevel | |
| 14:31 | location, I can't remember a good reason to remove that | |
| 14:31 | itemtype, you may want to control ccode or itype depending on what you are going to do | |
| 14:37 | jwagner | I think our people would be happy to use items.itype and items.location. |
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| 14:50 | chris_n | hdl_laptop: re request.pl email; my debuglevel is 2, but the deep recursion problem appears fixed in the current 3.0.x HEAD even with debuglevel = 2 |
| 14:51 | hdl_laptop | mmm... thx eiro then |
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| 14:59 | schuster | slef - can you expound on the kohala comment or drop me an email with what's going on? I don't read French, but user groups should collaborate...;) |
| 15:04 | hdl_laptop | schuster: kohala was meant to collaborate with a us group... It is in its bylaws ;) |
| 15:04 | schuster | hdl_laptop - is there any information about the group someplace and who is active or leading? |
| 15:04 | hdl_laptop | koha-fr.org |
| 15:05 | there is a kohala page | |
| 15:05 | use ggltranslate because it is only french | |
| 15:05 | schuster | once again the French come through! Thanks for the other tip... May have to poll the KUDOS group for someone who read french to keep up with it! |
| 15:09 | magnus | hm, looks like the download-link on koha-fr.org is pointing to 3.00.04_fixed, even though they host 3.00.05... |
| 15:18 | slef | magnus: let me see if I have access to fix that. |
| 15:19 | hrm, it doesn't know my openID | |
| 15:20 | I don't have a password recorded for it | |
| 15:20 | and I probably can't register a new account because it has an eyetest. | |
| 15:20 | #fail | |
| 15:20 | I can't request a password reset because it has an eyetest | |
| 15:21 | #epicfail | |
| 15:21 | I may try the hearing test when I get my headphones, but I hate these things. | |
| 15:22 | schuster: what do you want to know? KohaLA is using a non-FOSS Java app to hold its meeting. Ask us questions and I'll answer when I return. | |
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| 15:47 | schuster | slef thanks - Who is the current board of directors? how many members do you currently have? what benefits does koha-fr currently provide? |
| 15:47 | slef - what is your current dues? | |
| 15:48 | dues/membership fee | |
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| 15:52 | slef | schuster: http://www.koha-fr.org/node/11 is a buggy list of directors; I don't know the membership numbers; it provides no discernable benefits yet AFAIK; it's EUR20/year but my last payment bounced and no-one answered when I asked for correct details and I've not chased it up yet. |
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| 15:58 | schuster | Thanks! good to know as we start building KUDOS - we want reach out ... |
| 16:00 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 16:00 | munin` | moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -0.8�C (9:55 AM CST on January 22, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:01 | chris_n | schuster: are you reloading all 53k images every night into the db? |
| 16:02 | schuster | yes - again there is no way for me to tell which are new or modified. |
| 16:02 | I will do the same with the borrower records once I get a command line utility that I can use with a cron job. | |
| 16:03 | chris_n | I'd think since rsync can tell, that there is file system level info which could be looked at to tell |
| 16:04 | I think there are three dates attached at the file system level iirc | |
| 16:04 | they are date created, date last modified, date last accessed | |
| 16:05 | date last modified should tell you which have changed I think | |
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| 16:20 | slef | chris_n is right at least for most fs |
| 16:20 | chipsy | my koha doesn't save catalog |
| 16:21 | can anyone help | |
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| 16:22 | slef | Thanks for the question, but to help with that, we need a bit more information. You probably need to tell us:- |
| 16:22 | * Any error message (preferred) or precise problem description, | |
| 16:22 | * How to obtain the error, step-by-step if possible. | |
| 16:22 | (This is copy-pasta. I see many bug reports that are missing vital info like the above and this seems better than you getting no reply.) | |
| 16:22 | ||
| 16:23 | chipsy | if i tried manuall new record, after filling the info on book cat |
| 16:23 | it will ask me to save | |
| 16:24 | when i additem it took me to select Xml ... | |
| 16:24 | then it hook there | |
| 16:25 | slef | select xml? |
| 16:25 | First of all, are you using koha 3.0.5? | |
| 16:27 | chipsy | 3.0.1 |
| 16:28 | slef | Is it the LiveCD? |
| 16:28 | chipsy | no i configure my self |
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| 16:29 | slef | Why such an old version? Has it worked for you before? |
| 16:29 | I mean: has this installation worked for you before? | |
| 16:29 | What step of http://koha.org/documentation/[…]ng/adding-records do you get to when it takes you to select Xml, and what is shown in the address bar when for "select Xml"? | |
| 16:30 | chipsy | yeah |
| 16:31 | nothing happens | |
| 16:32 | slef | I don't understand, sorry. Maybe someone else will help. |
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| 17:32 | schuster | chipsy - was this the virtual server from Kyle Hall or where did you get your tarball from? |
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| 17:35 | liz-nekls | i think from some organization in brazil? |
| 17:35 | schuster | wizzyrea - changes her disguise... |
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| 17:39 | jwagner | schuster, you scared her off! |
| 17:54 | chris_n | owen about? |
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| 18:07 | chris_n | @later tell owen here's an excellent article on the clearfix hack and why to use space rather than period: http://perishablepress.com/pre[…]learfix-css-hack/ |
| 18:07 | munin` | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:13 | wizzyrea | ok I'm back :P |
| 19:15 | jdavidb | welcome back, wizzyrea! :P |
| 19:19 | wizzyrea | hehe thanks |
| 19:32 | chris | morning |
| 19:46 | jdavidb | Hi, chris! |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | hey chris |
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| 19:48 | chris | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]erceptions2009.pl |
| 19:51 | i hope people take note of this | |
| 19:53 | there are some pretty clear lessons on how not to do it | |
| 19:54 | clear, economic realities, which i hope people take note of, and don't make the same mistakes | |
| 19:57 | chris_n | interesting to say the least |
| 19:58 | wizzyrea | heh, they came in only above 2 products that don't exist. That's telling |
| 19:58 | chris_n | very |
| 19:59 | yet self-hosted Koha ranked well | |
| 19:59 | chilts | wow, I love it when people put down the _facts_ (and it's clear for all to see) |
| 19:59 | slef | I think our libraries were all marked as self-hosted Koha. We only got added to LTG very recently. |
| 20:00 | I have problems promoting that survey because it isn't under anything like Open Database Licence. | |
| 20:01 | biab | |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | slef: I was going to suggest that next year the co-op would be listed as a vendor, but given your 2nd statement I guess not |
| 20:02 | which is totally your right | |
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| 20:14 | chris_n | howdy pianohackr|work |
| 20:22 | slef | wizzyrea: it's interesting research and I hope we'll show up in our own right, but All Rights Reserved goes against my principles. |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | understandable |
| 20:24 | slef | hrm... is he describes "self-support" in the preamble, but I see only "Koha -- Independent" (which could cover that and much else) in the tables. |
| 20:25 | our principle 4 is autonomy and independence, so I'd say all our libraries are independent but supported by us ;-) http://www.software.coop/info/coopdev.html | |
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| 20:36 | slef | bbl |
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