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| 03:32 | Genji_away is now known as Genji | |
| 03:32 | Genji | Hi, im back. anyone alive? |
| 03:33 | Would a mismatch in versioning of LibXML compiled for 706 but libxml2 runtime is 702, cause a zebra indexing/search fail? | |
| 03:34 | Would it cause icu.xml to fail to read? | |
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| 03:44 | Amit | hi brendan, chris |
| 03:44 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:59 | Genji | hiya Amit. |
| 03:59 | Would a mismatch in versioning of LibXML compiled for 706 but libxml2 runtime is 702, cause a zebra indexing/search fail? | |
| 03:59 | Would it cause icu.xml to fail to read? | |
| 03:59 | Amit | heya Genji |
| 04:01 | Genji | What do you think, Amit? |
| 04:01 | Amit | your LibXML version |
| 04:02 | Genji | how do i get that? |
| 04:02 | Amit | what os r u using? |
| 04:02 | Genji | Centos |
| 04:03 | 5.something | |
| 04:03 | Amit | have u installed by rpm or CPAN package? |
| 04:04 | Genji | unsure. I uninstalled LibXML via CPANPLUS, and reinstalled.. to see if the mismatch would disappear. Nope. |
| 04:04 | Amit | u can installed by RPM package |
| 04:05 | Genji | Oh? okay. whats the rpm? |
| 04:06 | Amit | perl-XML-LibXML |
| 04:16 | Genji | no package perl-XML-LibXML availab.e |
| 04:16 | hmm.. guess i have to search for it. | |
| 04:22 | how do i know from uname -a if i have 64 bit or not? | |
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| 04:25 | Genji | 2.6.18-164.el5PAE #1 SMP Thu Sep 3 04:10:44 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux is 64 or 32 bit? |
| 04:27 | Amit | yum search perl-XML-LibXML |
| 04:29 | Genji | nevermind.. got it. |
| 04:29 | rpmforging on. | |
| 04:35 | oh... this isn't good. now yum update says that kernel.i686 is set to be erased! | |
| 04:36 | oh.. a new kernel is set to be installed.... | |
| 04:47 | brendan | hello amit |
| 04:55 | chris_n2 | @wunder 28334 |
| 04:55 | munin | chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -2.0�C (11:53 PM EST on December 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:55 | chris_n2 | @wunder 22727 |
| 04:55 | munin | chris_n2: The current temperature in Madison Cnty; 3 miles NE Haywood, Haywood, Virginia is -4.0�C (11:50 PM EST on December 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Rising). |
| 04:56 | * chris_n2 | notes that 22727 is currently under about 30 some inches of snow |
| 04:57 | chris_n2 | and wonders back off into LEK purgatory |
| 04:58 | Amit | heya chris_n2 |
| 04:58 | chris_n2 | howdy Amit |
| 04:58 | Amit | everything is fine |
| 04:59 | chris_n2 | heh... as fine as can be trying to code with both hands tied behind my back and one foot too, I think |
| 05:01 | Genji | hmm, chris_n2? Your Liblime developer? |
| 05:02 | @quote search chris_n2 | |
| 05:02 | munin | Genji: No matching quotes were found. |
| 05:03 | chris_n2 | Genji: no... I was once upon a time in a galaxy far far away... now I'm just contracted by a third party to attempt to do some magical foo interfacing LEK with some other software |
| 05:04 | Genji: btw chris_n2 = chris_n = fbcit so on and so forth | |
| 05:06 | Genji | magical foo getting LEK to play nice, sounds like black magic. |
| 05:07 | chris_n2 | indeed... very black |
| 05:07 | Genji | Beware of the Voodoo. |
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| 05:45 | indradg | @wunder Kolkata |
| 05:45 | munin | indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 23.0�C (10:50 AM IST on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 05:49 | Amit | hi indradg |
| 05:49 | indradg | Amit, hiya! |
| 05:53 | Genji | Would a mismatch in versioning of LibXML compiled for 20706 but libxml2 runtime is 20702, cause a zebra indexing/search fail? |
| 05:54 | looks like it would be impossible downgrading libxml2 without uninstallling a lot of other stuff. | |
| 05:57 | is it possible to swap versions of libxml2 without uninstalling/reinstalling everything? | |
| 06:35 | chris_n2 | g'night koha |
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| 06:52 | Amit | heya nicomo |
| 06:53 | nicomo | hi Amit |
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| 07:16 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
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| 08:33 | CGI781 | test |
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| 08:41 | chris | evening |
| 08:43 | Ropuch | Hi chris |
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| 09:19 | Genji | chris, you awake still? |
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| 09:32 | hdl_laptop | chris : hi |
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| 09:33 | CGI887 | anybody out there? |
| 09:33 | i'm a complete noob just messing with the virtual machine Koha dist. | |
| 09:34 | wanna know how to change the staff interface password for "kohaadmin" | |
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| 09:43 | CGI887 | 690 you there? |
| 09:43 | CGI690 | Is there a simple tutorial on how to use Koha to create a very simple library system for an existing library with very basic cataloguing, and for someone who is NOT a library expert, nor a data base expert? |
| 09:44 | CGI887 | sounds like you and I are both noobs. :) i'm trying to figure out how to change kohaadmin password |
| 09:45 | CGI690 | I did find a link for that, but it is really quite complicated. I did find what the default password and just decided to go with it for a start |
| 09:47 | I have scanned the physical cards, which contain relatively little information: catalog number (in a simple format, not Dewey, MARC or any standard form), title, author(s), brief description, publisher and that is about it! | |
| 09:48 | CGI887 | you are beyond me... ive figured out how to manually add items using isbn search... thats it |
| 09:48 | CGI690 | I have this information in tables under major headings (like fiction, youth, etc.). The tables are in OpenOffice Text format. |
| 09:49 | I haven't even figured out how to manually add items. For a lot of material in the library, I cannot even find the ISBN. | |
| 09:53 | hdl_laptop | CGI887: to change kohaadmin password. |
| 09:54 | you have to change the mysql apssword for kohaadmin. | |
| 09:54 | CGI690 | http://blog.chadwollenberg.com[…]3-admin-password/ is a link for how to change the kohaadmin password. I have not tried it. |
| 09:54 | hdl_laptop | And report the change in koha-conf.xml |
| 09:55 | CGI690 :koha can only import iso2709 or MARCXML so no XL spreadsheet. | |
| 09:55 | To convert your data, see the wiki and look for MarcEdit | |
| 09:57 | CGI690 | Is it OK to leave most of the fields blank in MARC records? I don't have much of the data available for most of the fields in a MARC record |
| 10:05 | CGI887 | ok, still stuck... on virtual machine I cannot get a root shell because of control panel that is tied to root account |
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| 10:06 | CGI887 | change of password seems to require root perms |
| 10:08 | should read... change of sql password seems to require root perms. | |
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| 10:08 | CGI887 | says something about "cannot turn off login. access denied, you need SUPER priv for this op" |
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| 10:45 | CGI952 | koha on debian etch: failing at this point: Starting Zebraqueue Daemon/usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh: line 26: daemon: command not found could somebody help |
| 10:48 | amit?? | |
| 10:52 | cud somebody clarify on the last post regarding koha on debian etch | |
| 10:53 | Ropuch | CGI952: sudo aptitude install daemon |
| 10:53 | (from what you pasted it seems you;re missing daemon) | |
| 10:55 | CGI952 | sudo update-rc.d koha-zebraqueue-daemon defaults ; this i executed first |
| 10:56 | and then i did this sudo /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh start for which command not found error i got.. | |
| 10:56 | ropuch... | |
| 10:59 | i did try the command u gave it doesnt solve the error | |
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| 11:03 | CGI952 | ropuch: i m able to go thru that step now...once i exec the zebraqueue start command. the daemon gets started..but i try accessing the page via the browser....page not found...kindly clarify...i have been with this for a long time now...kindly help... |
| 11:05 | could somebody c larify......i am thru the six steps of debian install of koha....when i try accessing the page via the browser page not found... | |
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| 11:23 | CGI021 | anasha koha on debian etch.... not able to access the opac or intranet pages...kindly help... |
| 11:23 | zico | hi |
| 11:23 | i have installed koha-3.0.5 | |
| 11:23 | the problem i had been facing is gone... thanks | |
| 11:23 | :) | |
| 11:24 | double biblio problem, multiple holdings physical items not showing... and other | |
| 11:24 | :) | |
| 11:24 | CGI021 | zico |
| 11:24 | zico | but.. now.. i am facing another problem in koha-3.0.5 |
| 11:24 | CGI021 | cud u clarify.. |
| 11:25 | zico | the thing is... when i go for label printing.... and... when... i press "Add item(s) to batch" ... no window comes... |
| 11:25 | CGI021 | ropcuh.....i m not able to access the opac or intra pages... |
| 11:25 | zico | CGI021: yes! |
| 11:25 | CGI021 | zico...i m not able to access the opac or intra pages...till 6th step of INSTALL.debian went on well... |
| 11:27 | zico...i m not able to access the opac or intra pages...till 6th step of INSTALL.debian went on well... | |
| 11:27 | zico | CGI021: what did you put in your "servername" ? |
| 11:27 | CGI021 | http:<localhost> also tried with the ip.... doesnt workk.. |
| 11:28 | zico.. | |
| 11:30 | cud somebody clarify on access of opac/intra pages...the correct syntax.... | |
| 11:31 | zico | |
| 11:31 | zico u there?? | |
| 11:31 | zico | CGI021: put http://127.0.0.1:8080/ |
| 11:31 | or... http://127.0.1.1:8080/ | |
| 11:33 | CGI021 | with 0.0.1 page not found and 0.1.1 request not allowed.... |
| 11:33 | i mean connection refused... | |
| 11:34 | ropcuh... | |
| 11:34 | zico | what is your machine ip? |
| 11:34 | CGI021 | laurence?? |
| 11:35 | 10.93.242.216 | |
| 11:35 | zico... | |
| 11:36 | zico | did you modify your virtualhost? |
| 11:36 | CGI021 | no |
| 11:37 | i did add the lines listen 80 and 8080 to the file mentione during installation. | |
| 11:38 | zico | no... do another thing |
| 11:38 | CGI021 | YEP... |
| 11:38 | zico... | |
| 11:38 | zico | go to /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha |
| 11:38 | CGI021 | ok |
| 11:39 | i have opened the file.... | |
| 11:39 | zico | there.. you will find two lines named "<VirtualHost 127.0.1.1:80>" ... and "<VirtualHost 127.0.1.1:8080>" |
| 11:39 | put your machine ip there instead of "127.0.1.1" | |
| 11:39 | then... restart apache2 with /etc/init.d/apache2 restar | |
| 11:40 | CGI021 | ok i shall try and get back... |
| 11:40 | zico | clear your web browser cache and put your address in address bar |
| 11:40 | say... my OPAC is : http://192.168.1.54/ | |
| 11:41 | and... Staff Interace: http://192.168.1.54:8080/ | |
| 11:41 | hope this may help you | |
| 11:43 | CGI021 | now i guess it connects..but not able to open the PL file... |
| 11:43 | and when i try the intranet page....koha error... | |
| 11:44 | so my perl modules are not installed properly or what? | |
| 11:44 | zico | what koha error shows? |
| 11:44 | i means... are there any other messages there? | |
| 11:45 | CGI021 | The following fatal error has occurred:Can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 85.BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 85.Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/ |
| 11:45 | and when i try to open the opac page...browser says it does not know how to open the file...(PL) file... | |
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| 11:47 | zico | u need to install ZOOM from cpan |
| 11:50 | ok...is there anyone who can tell about Koha-3.0.5 label printing problem? :) | |
| 11:51 | i need it badly! :) | |
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| 12:51 | chris_n2 | @wunder 28334 |
| 12:51 | munin | chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is -3.0�C (7:40 AM EST on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
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| 13:27 | chris_n2 | @later tell zico check popup blockers... labels in 3.0.5 works fine here |
| 13:27 | munin | chris_n2: The operation succeeded. |
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| 13:51 | owen | Hello all non-vacationing Koha worker drones |
| 13:52 | paul_p2 | hello owen. |
| 13:52 | hdl_laptop | hi owen. |
| 13:52 | paul_p2 | "no vacation for brave people !!!" |
| 13:53 | owen | Do people usually take vacation around Christmas in France? |
| 13:53 | paul_p2 | owen: yes, libraries often have 1 or even 2 weeks. |
| 13:54 | owen | The schools do here, but not libraries |
| 13:55 | jwagner | Hello to all from blizzard-bound DC. |
| 13:55 | owen | Hi jwagner, how's your recuperation going? |
| 13:56 | jwagner | Pretty good. I'm mostly off the painkillers which makes for better concentration but perhaps less imagination :-) |
| 13:56 | Still getting around the house in a wheelchair, but I can put some weight on the foot now. | |
| 13:57 | owen | But no sympathy for being house-bound while everyone else is too? |
| 13:57 | jwagner | Well, even if they closed the office today I'd probably be working. No excuse if you're already set up to telework.... |
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| 13:58 | jwagner | But the federal government is shut down. The apocalypse is nigh.... |
| 14:00 | nengard | hi all - no vaca for me either :) but we are dug out and so hubby's school was open today so he had to go to work |
| 14:00 | more bug wrangling this AM | |
| 14:01 | now on to documentation again :) | |
| 14:01 | jwagner | nengard++ for all the bug wrangling |
| 14:01 | owen | No inbox zero for me today, not with all of nengard's bug wrangling ;) |
| 14:01 | nengard | thanks jwagner - unfortunatly there are still a lot left open :( |
| 14:02 | jwagner | I've been wondering if nengard was aiming to hit the top of the listserv statistics :-) |
| 14:02 | nengard | LOL - there are listserv stats? |
| 14:02 | nope - just doing what I was asked to do :) | |
| 14:02 | also - I want to find bugs I can actually fix so I keep reading through the bugs | |
| 14:04 | jwagner | Is there any help or hint file on bugzilla? I haven't been able to figure out how to set up some reports. I'd like to see all the entries where I'm cc'd, for example. |
| 14:06 | nengard | clicking the Search link gives you lots of options |
| 14:07 | sorry - clicking the Search Link and then the Advanced Search Tab | |
| 14:07 | at the bottom you can choose to see items with a specific CC | |
| 14:07 | jwagner: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]1&format=advanced | |
| 14:10 | jwagner | Aha! Hadn't found that page. I was trying to do something similar with those fields in a report, but it kept complaining. |
| 14:10 | Thanks. That's going to help. | |
| 14:11 | hilongo | Hello everyone ... glad to see I'm not only one without vacations :) |
| 14:12 | jwagner | Nope, we're all hard at work. (For some variable definitions of "hard" and "work" that is) |
| 14:13 | hilongo | very variable indeed :) |
| 14:13 | Ropuch | Wow, All tests successful. Result: PASS in 3.0.5 make test |
| 14:13 | Hello everybody :) | |
| 14:14 | jwagner | Hi Ropuch |
| 14:14 | hilongo | Great! |
| 14:15 | owen | Re: Bug 2739, why would you have a patron with no name? |
| 14:16 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2739 normal, P3, ---, jmfliblime.com, NEW, OPAC Welcome Breaks if No First Name Avail |
| 14:16 | * owen | wonders why he even asks himself these questions |
| 14:18 | jwagner | Staff ID maybe? We always set up dummy names even for those. Sounds like it's not really breaking, just displaying funny. |
| 14:18 | hilongo | I have a bunch of patron without name ... from an import run where I was unable to separate firstnames from surnames ... |
| 14:18 | chris_n2 | g'morning all |
| 14:19 | jwagner | good morning chris_n2 -- much snow down your way? |
| 14:19 | chris_n2 | vacation here has to wait until next week |
| 14:19 | jwagner: none here actually... 30 some inches at my parents in Madison VA (nearer to you) | |
| 14:19 | the children were very disappointed here :-( | |
| 14:20 | jwagner | I'll bet. They're delighted here. At least one school system has already cancelled classes until after the first of the year. |
| 14:21 | chris_n2 | yeah, we're headed to the Blue Ridge in VA next week... maybe we'll get snowed in ;-) |
| 14:21 | * chris_n2 | can hardly wait to get to a place where the internet and phone cannot find him |
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| 14:21 | hilongo | Over here the kids are always 'snow-disappointed' this time of the year ... cause it's summer but all the christmas 'propaganda' is snowy :P |
| 14:22 | owen | I want a place where the internet and phone can't find me...but I can find them ;) |
| 14:22 | jwagner | Nope, they're talking about rain for Christmas day in the DC area, at least. Blue Ridge will probably be about the same. |
| 14:22 | owen, for that situation I highly recommend a cruise ship :-) They can't reach you, but if you're really desperate (and willing to spend the exorbitant Internet access fees) you can reach them. | |
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| 14:23 | chris_n2 | owen: lol |
| 14:23 | rhcl2 is now known as rhcl_home | |
| 14:23 | owen | hilongo: Interesting case. Are you left manually correcting those patrons? |
| 14:23 | * chris_n2 | 's 3 year old is laughing at the smileys in his irc client |
| 14:25 | nengard | owen - delayed response re the bug - but if first name isn't required for some reason it's pretty easy to have that field blank ... |
| 14:25 | hilongo | owen: Yes. First we tried to leave the first word as a surname and the rest as the name ... |
| 14:26 | but that had to be 'reviewed' manually anyway | |
| 14:27 | owen | Does Cher use her local public library? How do they handle it? |
| 14:27 | nengard | hehe |
| 14:27 | hilongo | haha |
| 14:27 | just like Maddona ... I guess :) | |
| 14:29 | owen | Actually, looks like that bug has been taken care of. "Welcome, Cher | Log Out" |
| 14:29 | "Hello, Cher (Click here if you're not Cher)" | |
| 14:32 | ...although the bug is assigned to "rel_3_0." hdl_laptop: How should we be handling such bugs? It could be something that affects 3.0.x | |
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| 14:39 | hilongo | I have v. 3.01 and Madonna looks nice ... |
| 14:39 | nengard | the bug was regarding a missing First name |
| 14:39 | hilongo | Hello, Madonna (Click here if you're not Sra Madonna) |
| 14:39 | nengard | not a missing Surname |
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| 15:22 | owen | nengard: I notice in your screenshot for bug 3900 that your "subscription started on" date is missing. I have that same problem. |
| 15:22 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3900 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Serial Info in Opac Needs View Tabs |
| 15:23 | nengard | hmmm - must be a display bug I didn't notice before |
| 15:23 | you fixing it with bug 3900? or should i put in a new bug? | |
| 15:23 | owen | When I look at the information stored in the subscriptionhistory table I find that histstartdate is empty for everything |
| 15:24 | Can you check your data to confirm? | |
| 15:24 | I'm just investigating. If it's an easy fix I'll roll it into the fix for 3900/3376 | |
| 15:25 | (I guess it's not an easy fix if the data isn't getting into the database) | |
| 15:27 | Wait, what's the difference between "start date" and "history start date" ? | |
| 15:27 | nengard | owen - just a sec |
| 15:27 | no clue what the dif is | |
| 15:28 | owen | serials/subscription-detail.pl lists both in the subscription summary table |
| 15:28 | nengard | and are they both showing? |
| 15:29 | owen | start date and end date are filled, history start date and history end date are empty |
| 15:29 | nengard | owen - i see the same thing - i think we need a serials bug for this - |
| 15:29 | i'll include our chat | |
| 15:30 | owen | I do notice that "histstartdate" and "histenddate" are fields that are part of the "manual history" entry form, but they're labeled "subscription start date" and "subscription end date" |
| 15:31 | nengard | Bug 3982 submitted |
| 15:31 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3982 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulainbiblibre.com, NEW, History Start Date Not Populated |
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| 15:33 | rhcl | @seen wizzyrea |
| 15:33 | munin | rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 2 days, 16 hours, 38 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> aside: I love screencast.com |
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| 15:36 | rhcl | @seen chris |
| 15:36 | munin | rhcl: chris was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 54 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <chris> evening |
| 15:36 | rhcl | @seen chris_n |
| 15:36 | munin | rhcl: chris_n was last seen in #koha 2 days, 11 hours, 15 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <chris_n> @later tell wizzyrea: open an enhancement request for that option and I'll add it to my ever growing list :-) |
| 15:37 | rhcl | @seen anybody |
| 15:37 | munin | rhcl: I have not seen anybody. |
| 15:37 | chris_n | rhcl: here now |
| 15:37 | * owen | waves his arms and asks munin if he can see him now |
| 15:37 | chris_n | hehe |
| 15:38 | rhcl | Wasn't it you that posted the note about Stephen Abram over the weekend? I'm just now starting to read the articles in American Libraries. Quite interesting happenings going on I think. |
| 15:38 | chris_n | I must confess: it was not I |
| 15:38 | but I'd be interested in the link | |
| 15:39 | rhcl | It's up above somewhere...I'll look. |
| 15:40 | owen | "brendan @llater tell chris stephen abram no longer with Sirsi-Dynix. he's gone back to publishing" |
| 15:40 | rhcl | Ah, I don't have the logs on this computer. |
| 15:40 | Have "you all" read the American Libraries" articles? | |
| 15:40 | chris_n | interesting |
| 15:41 | * chris_n | gives firefox its obligatory bi-weekly restart |
| 15:46 | rhcl | Interesting Marshal Breeding comment: |
| 15:46 | "A ne front has developed in the competition among library automation alternative vendors, who are racing to open up software and allow libraries more access to their data and internal functionality.? | |
| 15:46 | sed s/ne/new | |
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| 15:54 | owen | What's the difference between a subscription's "First issue publication date" and its "Subscription start date" ? |
| 15:55 | nengard | owen that i can tell you :) |
| 15:55 | the first issue pub date is the issue you have in hand when you add the subscription | |
| 15:55 | it's the one you base all your predictions on | |
| 15:55 | the sub start date is for the date your subscirption starts with the vendor | |
| 15:55 | that way you know when you have to renew your subscrption | |
| 15:55 | all that is in the manual btw :) | |
| 15:59 | owen | The manual needs to be converted into a chat bot ;) |
| 15:59 | Thanks nengard | |
| 16:00 | owen is now known as owen-away | |
| 16:04 | chris_n | owen-away: excellent idea... I'll do that right after <BOTTOM_ELEMENT_OF_FILO_BUFFER_GOES_HERE> |
| 16:14 | wizzyrea | owen: omg, having the manual as a chat bot... that makes me weep with happiness (or would, if we had that) |
| 16:14 | something like @manual acquisitions | |
| 16:14 | hawt | |
| 16:14 | it's XML, could probably be done | |
| 16:15 | jwagner | But it wouldn't have the screenshots.... |
| 16:15 | wizzyrea | more like links to the pages |
| 16:16 | jwagner: how's the foot? | |
| 16:16 | jwagner | Doing better. I'm pretty much off the painkillers now, but still using the wheelchair to get around. |
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| 16:18 | jwagner | One of the advantages of working from home is that the soundtrack is better. This morning has been a mixture of Pete Seeger/Arlo Guthrie and Bruce Springsteen. |
| 16:18 | wizzyrea | niiice |
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| 16:18 | wizzyrea | it's a good time to be snowed in :) |
| 16:19 | jwagner | If I listen to music in the office, I make sure to keep it all instrumental, like classical or George Winston or Mannheim Steamroller. Otherwise I'll start singing along, which might disturb other folks in my corridor. |
| 16:20 | hilongo | haha .. I guess they are missing your songs now ! ;) |
| 16:20 | jwagner | But at least I didn't have to struggle with the commute this morning! |
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| 16:50 | nengard | owen wizzyrea - once the manual is in XML i bet it would be easier to bring in sections of it :) |
| 16:50 | sorry - delayed reaction ... | |
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| 16:57 | owen-away is now known as owen | |
| 17:05 | chris | morning peeps |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | mornin chris |
| 17:07 | paul_p | hi chris & wizzyrea & nengard ! |
| 17:08 | nengard | hi paul_p |
| 17:08 | paul_p | raining in Marseille, just when I plan to go back home with my bike :'( |
| 17:08 | nengard | well paul, that's better than the 20 inches of snow we have here ;) |
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| 17:12 | chris | @wunder wellington nz |
| 17:12 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (5:00 AM NZDT on December 22, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:17 | chris | hmmm |
| 17:18 | http://metservice.co.nz/nation[…]-nz-colour-latest | |
| 17:18 | looks like it might be a nice day | |
| 17:23 | slef | phrrrp |
| 17:23 | @wunder weston-super-mare somerset | |
| 17:23 | munin | slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 0.0�C (5:21 PM GMT on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:24 | slef | paul_p: I punctured in sub-zero weather last week. Not fun. It held enough to get home. |
| 17:32 | nengard | owen about? |
| 17:32 | wizzyrea you good with css? | |
| 17:32 | owen | Yes, for another minute |
| 17:32 | nengard | ooo |
| 17:32 | nevermind wizzyrea | |
| 17:34 | chris | burn!!! |
| 17:34 | wizzyrea | *sob* |
| 17:34 | chris | hehe |
| 17:34 | wizzyrea | ;) |
| 17:34 | nengard | awwwww |
| 17:34 | i'm so sorry!! you can help me too if you want :) | |
| 17:34 | wizzyrea | j/k I wub u |
| 17:34 | nengard | wub u too |
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| 17:47 | rhcl | Is there a sysop that can kick rhcl1 (I'm logged on at home)? |
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| 18:59 | richard | hi |
| 19:02 | Ropuch | Hi |
| 19:09 | chris_n | Hi |
| 19:10 | nengard | hi |
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| 19:25 | wizzyrea | chris_n: I wonder what browser zico is using to access his labels |
| 19:25 | (er try to) | |
| 19:25 | what browser are you using? | |
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| 19:28 | chris_n | wizzyrea: Mozilla |
| 19:28 | is there another browser? | |
| 19:28 | ;-) | |
| 19:28 | Ropuch | ;> |
| 19:28 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 19:29 | It just seems like the kind of thing that screams "busted browser" to me | |
| 19:29 | popups blocked, too aggressive security settings | |
| 19:29 | something | |
| 19:30 | is anyone here familiar with the kohatools from contribs.koha.org? | |
| 19:30 | chris_n | right, I tried to suggest to him to look at popup blocking settings |
| 19:30 | wizzyrea | kyle's report module, specifically |
| 19:31 | dollars to donuts he's doing it in IE | |
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| 19:32 | chris_n | wouldn't be surprised.... I had to ditch IE on my cataloger's computers |
| 19:32 | too many quarks | |
| 19:32 | Chaos | I'm so ridiculously bored tonight |
| 19:32 | and I have a toothache | |
| 19:33 | owen | chris_n: "had to?" |
| 19:33 | * owen | is more than happy to ditch it at every opportunity |
| 19:34 | * chris_n | agrees with that sentiment whole heartedly |
| 19:34 | chris_n | nothing delights me more on a win32 system than to set Firefox as the default browser |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 19:34 | you know what we do in our libraries | |
| 19:34 | chris_n | well.... one thing is more delightful... |
| 19:34 | Chaos | cough elinks cough |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | we set the firefox icon to the big blue E |
| 19:34 | >.> | |
| 19:34 | chilts | :) |
| 19:35 | good on you! | |
| 19:35 | chris_n | removing win32 and installing *nix tops the list of delightful computer experiences |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | truth. |
| 19:35 | chris_n | lol |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | we leave IE installed, because the government still requires it sometimes for forms and stuff |
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| 19:36 | wizzyrea | but we put FF on the desktop with the big blue E |
| 19:36 | Chaos | removing win32, installing *nix, and customizing x11 to look EXACTLY like windows so they don't realize ANYTHING happened, should be the fun part |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | we get very few complaints |
| 19:36 | chaos, also fun | |
| 19:37 | nengard | time for me to talk to CA librarians about the real Koha - be back on later |
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| 19:37 | wizzyrea | Will the real Koha please stand up |
| 19:40 | Chaos | ya'll act like you never seen a gpl project before |
| 19:42 | I was going ot try to go weird al with it but that's all I got | |
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| 20:41 | chris_n | grr.... FF crashes for the second time today |
| 20:41 | howdy pianohacker | |
| 20:41 | pianohacker | Hi, chris_n |
| 20:42 | chris_n | how are you |
| 20:42 | pianohacker | Might disappear, internet connection has been weird today |
| 20:42 | Other than that, great | |
| 20:42 | you? | |
| 20:45 | Ropuch | Hello chris_n, pianohacker |
| 20:46 | pianohacker | Hi, Ropuch |
| 20:47 | chris_n | pianohacker: its been the sort of day that results in things like broken fingers |
| 20:47 | pianohacker | Oh, crap! What happened? |
| 20:48 | * chris_n | 's oldest son tore the skin completely off of the pad of his left middle finger |
| 20:48 | chris_n | ouch^2 |
| 20:48 | janewagner | Yeowwwcchhhh |
| 20:48 | chris_n | massively painful injury |
| 20:48 | pianohacker | grah. I've gotten really bad hand wounds like that before, all those never endings |
| 20:48 | janewagner | I can believe it. |
| 20:48 | chris_n | although not bad on the whole scale of things |
| 20:49 | pianohacker | *nerve endings |
| 20:49 | chris_n | yeah |
| 20:49 | janewagner | speaking of broken fingers, how are yours, pianohacker? |
| 20:49 | chris_n | it took an narcotic to finally deaden the pain |
| 20:49 | pianohacker | janewagner: Great, actually :P |
| 20:49 | chris_n: Blurgh, so sorry | |
| 20:49 | chris_n | the bone was not crushed, however, and the finger was not "de-gloved" |
| 20:49 | janewagner | chris_n, he's going to have a lot of pain for a good many days. |
| 20:50 | chris_n | which would have required skin grafts |
| 20:50 | pianohacker | Gah, "de-gloved", short but very vivid word |
| 20:50 | chris_n | janewagner" I'm sure |
| 20:50 | yup... sends shivers up my spine | |
| 20:51 | janewagner | Hope he's not left-handed. I've had injuries to fingers on my right hand & found it impossible to do anything because my normal grip/hand-action always hit the spot. |
| 20:51 | chris_n | he's right-handed fortunately |
| 20:51 | janewagner | One small mercy.... |
| 20:51 | chris_n | seems he's looking at about 5 or 6 weeks |
| 20:51 | right now infection is the only concern | |
| 20:52 | he had MSRA last year... so the doctors is wanting to watch this closely | |
| 20:52 | MRSA even | |
| 20:52 | pianohacker | Yeah, definitely a danger with that bad a wound |
| 20:54 | chris_n | but, there is much to be thankful for as the injury could have been much worse |
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| 21:06 | chris_n | time to go home, bbl |
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| 21:14 | nengard | just got asked a question I wasn't sure of - can you catalog in chinese and japanese characters in koha? |
| 21:14 | pianohacker | You should be able to, as long as your database is set up for UTF8 |
| 21:14 | Dunno how well Zebra will handle it, but it should work | |
| 21:15 | nengard | anyone know how well zebra will handle chinese and japanese characters? |
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| 21:24 | Ropuch | nengard: zebra handles hebrew pretty well, so i guess there should be no problem with chinese or japanese |
| 21:25 | nengard | thanks! |
| 21:26 | Ropuch | nengard: https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl |
| 21:26 | kf's catalog | |
| 21:26 | chris_n | any reason this should not work: my $card_number = GetMember($borrower_number)->{'cardnumber'}; |
| 21:28 | pianohacker | chris_n: Not that I can think of. You could try a plain GetMember in a perl -de 1 session to see what the result wase |
| 21:28 | *was | |
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| 21:29 | chris_n | pianohacker: I'm getting complaints to this effect: Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference |
| 21:29 | I'll try your suggestion and see what's up | |
| 21:29 | pianohacker | Then GetMember's definitely screwy |
| 21:29 | Ropuch | nengard: and http://www.granthalaya.org can perform zebra search with Marathi / Hindi / Telugu / Kannada alphabet |
| 21:30 | pianohacker | the perl debugger is really handy because you can run things like s GetMember($borrower_number), step through the function and see what's up. Much easier than throwing in a ton of warns |
| 21:30 | nengard | thanks |
| 21:30 | chris | chris_n: GetMember has changed in master |
| 21:30 | it takes a hash as input | |
| 21:30 | chris_n | oh, fun |
| 21:30 | when? | |
| 21:31 | chris | my ( %information ) = @_; |
| 21:31 | just recently | |
| 21:31 | * chris_n | missed that and that accounts for the error |
| 21:31 | chris_n | tnx |
| 21:31 | chris | so Getmember('cardnumber' => $cardnumber ); |
| 21:32 | lets you do borrowernumber, cardnumber, surname .. whatever | |
| 21:32 | chris_n | cool |
| 21:33 | chris | (or combo of them |
| 21:33 | chris_n | fantastic! back in business |
| 21:33 | chris | cool |
| 21:34 | nengard: yes there are libraries in taiwan and mainland china cataloguing in chinese | |
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| 21:34 | chris | sup chris_n |
| 21:35 | nengard | thanks chris |
| 21:35 | chris | hmm sup chilts |
| 21:35 | chilts | ola! |
| 21:35 | chris | tab completion fail |
| 21:35 | chilts | heh, yeah, I decided on chilts instead of pie :) |
| 21:35 | how's it? you sunning yourself in this basking weather | |
| 21:35 | @wunder Wellington, NZ | |
| 21:35 | munin | chilts: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on December 22, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:35 | chris | just got back from the airport, picking up laurel's dad |
| 21:35 | chilts | wow, scorching 15°C ! |
| 21:36 | chris | hehe yeah its at least 17 |
| 21:36 | chilts | heh, you're living at the airport at the moment |
| 21:36 | pianohacker | ... |
| 21:36 | @wunder 81212 | |
| 21:36 | munin | pianohacker: The current temperature in Franklin Ave - Downtown, Canon City, Colorado is 16.8�C (2:31 PM MST on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:36 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 21:36 | pianohacker | It's _warmer_ here? What the hell? |
| 21:36 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 8.0�C (4:20 PM EST on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:36 | * chilts | likes @wunder |
| 21:38 | * chris_n | tears himself away from coding and heads home for real this time ;-) |
| 21:38 | chris_n | bbl |
| 21:42 | chris | chilts: i made a couple of template changes, and a new section on the kohacon site |
| 21:43 | chilts | sweet :) |
| 21:43 | * chilts | looks |
| 21:44 | chris | nengard: the test manual is using the new css now too |
| 21:44 | chilts | chris: so I think I need links from the sections/nodes in the admin interface, to open the pages up too :) |
| 21:44 | chris | yeah that would be handy |
| 21:45 | chilts | not sure the best way yet (anyway, we'll talk somewhere else or we'll hijack #koha) :D |
| 21:45 | chris | :-) |
| 21:45 | all the northern hemispherites will go to sleep soon anyway :) | |
| 21:46 | chilts | heh |
| 21:47 | owen | *yawn* |
| 21:51 | nengard | chris - as in the new css i put up in my last push? |
| 21:51 | chris | yup |
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| 21:51 | chris | as of 10 mins ago |
| 21:59 | nengard | thanks chris - can i just say i'm annoyed with the xml to html converter |
| 21:59 | it's putting in stuff i don't want in there | |
| 21:59 | Ropuch | Is it normal that HEAD hasn't been updated in three weeks? |
| 21:59 | nengard | extra <p> tags and stuff |
| 22:00 | owen | Ropuch: These days it is normal, as our 3.2 Release Manager is very busy |
| 22:00 | nengard left #koha | |
| 22:01 | Ropuch | But i can see patches form list merged with koha-biblibre.git |
| 22:01 | owen | gmcharlt: I suggest you start soliciting bribes. I will be first in line. PayPal? Amazon wish list? |
| 22:01 | Ropuch | Are those two to be merged together? |
| 22:01 | ;> | |
| 22:02 | chris | @later tell nengard you just have to make an xslt stylesheet then, it converts how it is told to convert |
| 22:02 | munin | chris: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:03 | owen | chris: "just" ? :) |
| 22:03 | pianohacker | XSLT and "just" should never go in the same sentence |
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| 22:04 | chris | hehe well there are piles to choose from, its more just changing the rules for the attributes you dont want |
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| 22:10 | chris | ok im gonna walk down the hill and watch avatar |
| 22:10 | bbl | |
| 22:12 | chilts | have fun! |
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| 23:05 | hdl_laptop | hi gmcharlt |
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| 23:35 | chris_n2 | hdl_laptop: why does C4::SQLHelper=>InsertInTable do an INSERT rather than an INSERT ... ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE? |
| 23:36 | this causes a problem for the import_patron.pl script when overwriting an existing record I think | |
| 23:36 | import_borrowers.pl rather | |
| 23:37 | hdl_laptop | either file a bug or send a patch. |
| 23:37 | chris_n2 | so you have no problem with that change? |
| 23:37 | hdl_laptop | Any improvement welcome. |
| 23:37 | chris_n2 | great, patch on the way |
| 23:38 | hdl_laptop | chris_n2 My question is : would we want that behavior as default ? |
| 23:38 | chris_n2 | hdl_laptop: it probably depends on how many places in the code expect to be able to overwrite an existing record by calling the InsertInTable function |
| 23:39 | hdl_laptop | Or should we raise rather an error when trying to INSERT duplicate information |
| 23:40 | chris_n2 | the behavior of import_borrowers.pl probably should be corrected rather |
| 23:40 | * chris_n2 | looks at the script again |
| 23:40 | hdl_laptop | I donot know many places where the default behaviour is to overwrite an existing row with a new one |
| 23:41 | My philosophy is do one thing but do it well. | |
| 23:43 | But as I said, if it is not expected to get an error when trying to insert a duplicate row then we should have such fail over set. | |
| 23:43 | Or at least a way to enable that. | |
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| 23:51 | chris_n2 | hdl_laptop: the problem is with import_borrowers.pl so I'll fix that |
| 23:51 | hdl_laptop | chris_n2++ |
| 23:51 | chris_n2 | although I agree with the need for returning an error |
| 23:51 | * chris_n2 | cannot see the bottom of his list to add that item to it atm ;-) |
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