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| 00:10 | chris | nz is a small place |
| 00:10 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/technol[…]owner-with-camera | |
| 00:16 | brendan | heh - that's great |
| 00:16 | good peeps++ | |
| 00:24 | chris | hey .. how long have we had search history in the opac? |
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| 01:36 | brendan | chris search history came down during the laatest updates from .61 -> .100 |
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| 02:34 | chris | ahh good, i thought id missed it:) |
| 02:48 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 02:48 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 11.3�C (6:44 PM PST on December 13, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Rising). |
| 02:48 | brendan | @wunder 99705 |
| 02:48 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Speedway, North Pole, Alaska is -32.2�C (5:46 PM AKST on December 13, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: -999%. Dew Point: -71.0�C. Windchill: -32.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:48 | brendan | wow look at that humidity = -999 |
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| 03:40 | Amit | hi brendan, chris, chris_n2 |
| 03:40 | brendan | heya amit |
| 03:41 | @wunder 99705 | |
| 03:41 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Speedway, North Pole, Alaska is -32.2�C (6:36 PM AKST on December 13, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: -999%. Dew Point: -71.0�C. Windchill: -32.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Falling). |
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| 06:42 | Genji | Wow, its cool, im part of Koha history. Im the 33rd committer. |
| 06:45 | And the 22nd top of the irc chat nicks. | |
| 06:46 | And.. most of my lines are questions..... | |
| 06:49 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ ... interesting reading. | |
| 06:49 | Amit | heya Genji |
| 06:49 | Genji | Hiya Amit. How goes? |
| 07:04 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
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| 07:15 | imp | heyho |
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| 07:33 | CGI396 | Hello there huys |
| 07:34 | Hello there guys | |
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| 07:54 | |Lupin| | hi there |
| 07:55 | eiro | hello |Lupin| |
| 07:55 | hello all | |
| 07:55 | |Lupin| | hello eiro :) |
| 07:58 | Amit | hello lupin, eiro |
| 08:03 | CGI396 | Hi mLupin |
| 08:04 | Hi Everybody | |
| 08:05 | Are u there guys | |
| 08:07 | Where can I get the best the best Koha pay 4 support | |
| 08:07 | |Lupin| | hello Amit, CGI396 |
| 08:08 | Genji | CGI396: Avoid Liblime. |
| 08:08 | pie | CGI396: http://koha.org/support/pay-fo[…]t/pay-for-support <- might help |
| 08:09 | Genji | unfortunately, that page makes Liblime look good. |
| 08:09 | pie | there's plenty of choice, so hopefully there is something to suit |
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| 08:11 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 08:14 | CGI396 | Why should I avoid Liblime? (advice) |
| 08:16 | Genji why should I avoid Liblime | |
| 08:19 | Kf,how can you assist | |
| 08:20 | Pie, I have already sent correspondence to the listed Pay 4 support companies | |
| 08:21 | pie | cool |
| 08:24 | CGI396 | Does anybody know about a company called Sabinet in the Koha suppot community |
| 08:25 | chris | they are listed on the pay for support page |
| 08:29 | CGI396 | Chris: I know but I meant if u know more about the company's delivery profile |
| 08:29 | chris | no |
| 08:31 | kf | h chris |
| 08:31 | chris | hi kf |
| 08:33 | Ropuch | Hi chris, kf |
| 08:33 | kf | guten morgen Ropuch |
| 08:33 | chris | they are probably the closest to you geographically though |
| 08:33 | CGI396 | Kf are u representing Biblibe? |
| 08:34 | kf | CGI396: no, Im working for a German institution called BSZ |
| 08:34 | CGI396 | Chris yes & I ve already communicated to them |
| 08:35 | * Ropuch | is freezing |
| 08:35 | Ropuch | Our central heating system was disabled all night |
| 08:35 | chris | :( |
| 08:36 | CGI396 | Guys anybosy knows why Liblime should be avoided? |
| 08:37 | chris | google liblime fork |
| 08:37 | kf | CGI396: you dont have to avoid them, but you should know that their product liblime enterprise koha is not the same as koha from the community - its your decision |
| 08:38 | Ropuch | CGI396: it was Genji's own point of view, but you must need to know, that Koha version provided by LL is no longer open source |
| 08:39 | CGI396 | kf,Chris,Ropuch: Oh I see.. |
| 08:42 | Genji | Its no longer koha as we know it. |
| 08:43 | And you probably can't ask for help here, if you go LL. Its changed dramatically from community koha. | |
| 08:43 | CGI396 | Does anybody know about this company called Openlx |
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| 08:43 | chris | Amit does |
| 08:47 | CGI396 | Hi Amit: what should we take home about Openlx support for Koha? |
| 08:48 | |Lupin| | guten morgen kf |
| 08:48 | Amit | heya chris |
| 08:50 | hi CGI396: means | |
| 08:51 | CGI396 | Amit: would u recommend their support |
| 08:52 | Amit | hi CGI396 don't know |
| 08:52 | i leave this company last year in october | |
| 08:52 | right now i m working with Nucsoft Osslabs | |
| 08:53 | CGI396 | Amit : I see ..So u have quite extensive experience with Koha eh? |
| 08:54 | Amit | hmm |
| 08:54 | i have already done koha for delhi public library | |
| 08:56 | kf | guten Morgen Lupin :) |
| 08:56 | Amit | heya kf |
| 08:57 | CGI396 | Amit :so you have worked with Sudhir Gandotra? |
| 08:57 | kf | hi Amit |
| 09:03 | CGI396 | AMit:what is URLto Delphi Public Library |
| 09:03 | Amit | www.delhipubliclibrary.in |
| 09:07 | CGI396 | Amit: Im already there. |
| 09:07 | Amit : Thanks.... | |
| 09:10 | Genji | how difficult is it to diff my work's koha against 3.0, then bring the changes back into 3.2? |
| 09:10 | chris | if you have been using git, very very easy |
| 09:10 | if you haven't quite a lot harder | |
| 09:11 | but still doable | |
| 09:11 | Genji | nope, they haven't been using git. But the files are still in the git like tree (Bin, opac, intranet etc) |
| 09:12 | eiro | http://search.cpan.org/~miyaga[…]9022/lib/Plack.pm, http://search.cpan.org/~fwie/A[…]ry/Modern/Perl.pm, http://search.cpan.org/~flora/[…]MooseX/Declare.pm |
| 09:12 | Genji | their base was debian's kohaclone. |
| 09:12 | chris | yeah its not the location that helps, its the versioning, if it was in git you could create a patch easy, or cherry-pick, or rebase your changes... without it being inf version control |
| 09:12 | * Genji | nods. |
| 09:12 | chris | you will have to do manual diffs, and make the changes |
| 09:12 | * Genji | nods. |
| 09:12 | eiro | some ideas for the future of koha ( just pick ideas from Acme::Very::Modern ) |
| 09:12 | chris | :) |
| 09:13 | CGI396 | Amit: Your currently company supports Koha, but its not listed in list of Koha companies..what shud i know here? |
| 09:14 | chris | yes it is listed http://koha.org/support/pay-fo[…]t/pay-for-support |
| 09:14 | just after sabinet | |
| 09:15 | CGI396 | Amit:Oh sorry just found out. Yeah sorry man.. |
| 09:19 | Genji | CGI396:im curious, why arn't you using mibbit or a IRC client? |
| 09:21 | CGI396 | Genji: No im using web-based client;why? |
| 09:22 | Genji | CGI396: why are you using a web-based client? Mibbit is actually a better web client than CGI::IRC. |
| 09:26 | CGI396 | Genji: Advice Noted... |
| 09:26 | chris | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 09:26 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (10:00 PM NZDT on December 14, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:27 | Genji | http://embed.mibbit.com/?serve[…]&forcePrompt=true |
| 09:28 | CGI396: use the link above, for a better irc client. | |
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| 09:29 | Genji_mibbit | Testing testing... |
| 09:30 | Ropuch | ;> |
| 09:30 | Genji_mibbit | Try it, CGI396, the water's fine. |
| 09:30 | CGI396 | Genji: Sure I can see |
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| 09:38 | CGI396 | .Genji what's IRC name & Channel |
| 09:47 | Genji | CGI396: irc.katipo.co.nz channel #koha |
| 09:47 | but just copying that link will take you straight back here. | |
| 09:49 | CGI396 | Genji:Already done exactly that..still connecting.. |
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| 09:53 | |Lupin| | till soon, everybody |
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| 10:19 | si | woot |
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| 11:59 | zico | hi |
| 11:59 | in my koha 3.0.4... the "status" of any book/dvd is not showing... | |
| 12:00 | means... status showed "available" or "not available" before... by default... but it is not showing this now | |
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| 12:11 | zico | hi |
| 12:12 | i cannot see the "status" of my opac | |
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| 12:12 | zico | when i searches for any book or others... it shows the item... but... not showing any "status" like... available or not! |
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| 13:45 | Nate | Good morning, afternoon, and evening #koha! |
| 13:48 | nicomo | good, what?, morning Nate |
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| 13:54 | CGI526 | ciao a tutti |
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| 13:58 | nengard | owen -did you ever get the modify/delete queryset of items to work? if not did you report a bug? or is it the fact that we don't know how to use it? |
| 13:59 | owen | nengard: I'm not sure I did file a bug. I was in the middle of trying to figure out what was going on and got distracted by other issues |
| 14:00 | nengard | owen - i'm with you on that!! |
| 14:00 | :) | |
| 14:03 | Ropuch | Hello nengard, owen |
| 14:03 | nengard | hosdy |
| 14:12 | oops - just now saw my typo :) that was supposed to be howdy! :) | |
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| 14:13 | * jdavidb | points and laughs at nengard. |
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| 14:17 | owen | Don't pay any attention to jdavidb, he's had an overdose of Christmas spirit |
| 14:17 | jdavidb | :P Bah! Humbug! |
| 14:20 | There are only a few Christmas songs I'm not rather tired of, owen. I've managed to be enough of a hermit this year to *not* be completely sick of 'em. | |
| 14:20 | owen | I'm usually tired of Christmas songs by Halloween. |
| 14:21 | jdavidb | I hear ya. I was shocked last year to see Christmas decorations going up at Wal-Mart two days after Halloween. Music and all. Very annoying. |
| 14:22 | * owen | sings, "All I want for Christmas is some approved patches" |
| 14:22 | jdavidb | hehehe |
| 14:23 | * jdavidb | belts out "I Want a Hippopotamus for Christmas." |
| 14:29 | nicomo | nengard: I did manage to do a batch mod of items |
| 14:29 | nengard | nicomo - okay - so my question is what did you edit? Did you edit every field? I only tried to change the library field on multiple items and nothing happened |
| 14:30 | nicomo | I modified the note field of the items |
| 14:30 | adding some lame text | |
| 14:30 | on a batch of about 1000 items | |
| 14:31 | nengard | okay - i'll see if I can do that |
| 14:53 | * owen | thinks that's the same test he tried |
| 14:53 | nengard | owen - i'm working with nicomo to pin point the prob |
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| 15:37 | nicomo | nengard: it seems matts's code for batch mod of items uses: item2marc to get the data, updates marc, then mod item from marc |
| 15:37 | so it all goes through the API | |
| 15:37 | and shouldn't be marc-flavour dependent | |
| 15:38 | nengard | okay - however owen and i are seeing some crazy errors |
| 15:38 | when we added a non public note and it appeared in the item type field - for both of us | |
| 15:38 | and neither of us can change the library ... | |
| 15:38 | and when i added a public note it did not appear at all | |
| 15:39 | so - something is off | |
| 15:39 | nicomo | off it seems |
| 15:40 | nengard | :) |
| 15:40 | heh | |
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| 15:45 | nengard | nicomo should i report a bug to matt? with lots of image attachments so he can see what i see? |
| 15:45 | nicomo | I'm on it with him |
| 15:45 | looking at the code | |
| 15:45 | nengard | oh okey dokey |
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| 15:45 | nicomo | but I can't figure what's wrong |
| 15:45 | it all looks pretty standard stuff | |
| 15:45 | nengard | :( |
| 15:52 | nicomo | nengard: any way we could test your install? |
| 15:53 | nengard | no :( it's a virtual machine locally - bug i can say that it's just what i pulled from git |
| 15:53 | maybe owen's is on the web? | |
| 15:53 | he has the same issues i have | |
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| 15:54 | owen | I'm testing on a VM too |
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| 16:02 | owen | nengard, nicomo: For good measure I tried batch modifying a completely new record (rather than an imported one) and got the same results |
| 16:02 | nicomo | ok |
| 16:03 | nengard | owen - can you email nicomo some screenshots of your results? because you may be trying different things |
| 16:04 | owen | One thing I'm not clear on: What should I see after submitting a batch change? I see a page that lists the items I chose to change and a link at the bottom that says "Go back." |
| 16:04 | Is that what I should see after a successful batch change? | |
| 16:04 | nicomo | yes |
| 16:04 | but with the change in it | |
| 16:04 | owen | Yes, that's right |
| 16:05 | nicomo | nengard: and owen on step 1 |
| 16:05 | when you have the list of items | |
| 16:05 | are the right information in the right column? | |
| 16:06 | homebranch under homebranch header, etc | |
| 16:06 | ? | |
| 16:06 | it seems so from nengard's screenshot | |
| 16:06 | nengard | yes - i think so |
| 16:06 | owen | Yes |
| 16:07 | Batch-modding the item type results in the itemtype appearing in the "public note" field. | |
| 16:07 | ...but it's the "non-public note" that got put in the itemtype field | |
| 16:08 | Permanent location got put in Shelving location | |
| 16:10 | collection code is unchanged | |
| 16:10 | not for loan is unchanged | |
| 16:11 | date acquired got put in source of acquisition | |
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| 16:13 | owen | It's weird, it's like each field is getting put into the field *after* the field it should be in |
| 16:13 | Maybe a loop count is off by one somewhere? | |
| 16:19 | Suggestions management has lost the ability to specify a reason on the fly? | |
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| 16:23 | nicomo | owen: not that i know of |
| 16:24 | owen | I'm going to the dropdown labeled "Choose a reason for all marked entries" |
| 16:24 | And I'm choosing "Others..." | |
| 16:24 | I expected to get a text field for entering a custom reason, but nothing appeared | |
| 16:27 | wizzyrea | Hmm, am I just dumb or is there something wrong here (this was in the intranet with xslt turned on (current head): Software error: |
| 16:27 | Could not create file parser context for file "/home/liz/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl": No such file or directory at /home/liz/kohaclone/C4/XSLT.pm line 155 | |
| 16:28 | the file is existent? | |
| 16:28 | (that is to say, it's there | |
| 16:29 | ) | |
| 16:29 | OH wait... no it's not! | |
| 16:29 | the unimarc one is there, but not MARC32 | |
| 16:29 | 21* | |
| 16:30 | owen | I think I remember someone else mentioning that |
| 16:31 | wizzyrea | i'm looking for a related bug but I don't think I"m finding one |
| 16:33 | owen | Looks like brendan asked the devel list about it, but got no responses |
| 16:34 | [Koha-devel] MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl on 2009-12-06 | |
| 16:34 | wizzyrea | ok so I'm not nuts |
| 16:34 | I think I'll file a bug | |
| 16:35 | Unless there's something wrong with the git | |
| 16:35 | owen | I don't think devs any better responses from the devel list than regular folks :) |
| 16:35 | wizzyrea | that was a biblibre project? |
| 16:35 | the xslt-ization of the staff interface? | |
| 16:36 | owen | I can't remember who said they were working on that... |
| 16:37 | BibLibre contributed UNIMARC versions | |
| 16:37 | Someone else was working on MARC21 I think | |
| 16:37 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 16:37 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -14.4�C (10:35 AM CST on December 14, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Falling). |
| 16:37 | owen | It could be that the framework is there for XSLT on the staff side and it's just automatically looking for the MARC21 version just like it does on the OPAC side |
| 16:38 | (and by framework I mean the scripts necessary for display of the XSLT version) | |
| 16:38 | wizzyrea | right right |
| 16:39 | well, the file it's looking for isn't there :( | |
| 16:40 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]e13ce80b2;hb=HEAD | |
| 16:40 | doesn't look like it's here either | |
| 16:40 | owen | No wizzyrea I think it really honestly doesn't exist :) |
| 16:40 | wizzyrea | hurrah |
| 16:41 | I will file a bug for it, and turn it off lol | |
| 16:41 | owen | Bug 2165 |
| 16:41 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2165 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Add XSL Support for Staff Client -- was: ISBN being truncated |
| 16:41 | nicomo | nengard: |
| 16:41 | and owen | |
| 16:41 | owen | gmcharlt on 2009-06-15 "Enabling XSLT bib display in the staff client has now been sponsored." |
| 16:41 | nicomo | I think I've pinpointed the issue |
| 16:41 | nengard | woo hoo |
| 16:41 | nicomo | it's related to the framework |
| 16:41 | nengard | ahhhh |
| 16:41 | nicomo | no the marc flavour |
| 16:42 | owen | Staff client XSLT went down the LEK hole? |
| 16:42 | nicomo | nengard: items are called up in the page each according to it's own framework |
| 16:42 | but all saved with the default framework | |
| 16:43 | so if framework ABC has the barcode in $k | |
| 16:43 | and framework "" has it in $l | |
| 16:43 | -> boom | |
| 16:43 | nengard | ahhh |
| 16:45 | nicomo | I didn't see it in my install because all the frameworks I used are coherent as far as items are concerned |
| 16:45 | can you confirm this nengard ? | |
| 16:46 | nengard | are there item frameworks? |
| 16:46 | tell me where to look to confirm this | |
| 16:46 | nicomo | admin > marc frameworks |
| 16:46 | item field | |
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| 16:46 | nicomo | for the different frameworks |
| 16:47 | wizzyrea | so wait, ok, that bug says it was *going* to be done, is this a half job then? |
| 16:47 | b/c it looks like the unimarc flavor is there | |
| 16:48 | nicomo | nengard: if you have different settings for items in the various frameworks |
| 16:48 | wizzyrea | actually, I'm going to be quiet, I don't know anything about this. |
| 16:48 | nicomo | that would be an issue |
| 16:48 | hi wizzyrea | |
| 16:48 | owen | wizzyrea: BibLibre picked up the UNIMARC half, and someone else was expected to pick up the other half |
| 16:48 | nengard | nicomo - i'm using just the defaults that koha installs - so which fields am i looking for in particular? |
| 16:48 | owen | brendan: Did you get any off-list response to your question about the staff client XSL file? |
| 16:48 | nicomo | I think in marc21 that's 852 |
| 16:48 | not sure | |
| 16:49 | owen | nicomo: Are you saying that if the record I'm batch-modifying uses the default framework I should get correct batch edits? |
| 16:49 | nicomo | yes |
| 16:49 | I think | |
| 16:49 | I'd like confirmation | |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | owen: thx, sorry I'm so dense. |
| 16:49 | brendan | owen - nothing off-list - I talked with kf on-IRC and he stated it was on his list to get - same here |
| 16:50 | kf | wizzyrea: brendan or me wanted to work on intranet xslt for marc21 (found no time yet, dont know about brendan) |
| 16:50 | brendan | haven't found the time yet - here too |
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| 16:51 | kf | brendan: im a girl ;) |
| 16:51 | owen | nicomo: I confirmed that the record I was trying to edit was using the default framework, but still no success |
| 16:52 | nicomo | :'( |
| 16:52 | brendan | whoops - totally sorry :) |
| 16:52 | kf | just started reading back, long meetings today |
| 16:52 | * kf | also known as cait in IRC (when im on my computers at home) |
| 16:52 | nicomo | owen: I have to say I'm really disappointed in you answer ;-) |
| 16:52 | brendan | ahhh... need to "/whois" more often |
| 16:52 | owen | nicomo: I'll try again with another brand new record just to make sure |
| 16:53 | nicomo | ok |
| 16:53 | have to leave for a moment bbl | |
| 16:54 | wizzyrea | oh and here I was thinking they were two separate people |
| 16:54 | * wizzyrea | is now educated |
| 16:54 | wizzyrea | well they are both helpful and nice lol |
| 16:54 | ^.^ | |
| 16:54 | owen | :D |
| 16:55 | I wonder if chris's stats take that into account? http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ :) | |
| 16:55 | kf | thx :) |
| 16:57 | hm no entry for cait in chris's stats | |
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| 17:05 | wizzyrea | ooh, the ladies are going to need to be more vocal to catch up to the menfolk. :P |
| 17:06 | owen | Sorry nicomo, still no luck even after batch-editing a newly-created record which used the default framework. :( |
| 17:08 | nengard | nicomo owen - sorry - got distracted with the part of the manual i was writing - if you still need my help testing something, let me know |
| 17:17 | kf | time to go home - bbl. bye #koha :) |
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| 17:22 | wizzyrea | so, another question, the syspref for XSLTdetailDisplay seems to indicate that the setting is for OPAC only |
| 17:22 | but I just tested it, turning it on makes the intranet detail display go nuts | |
| 17:22 | (nonexistant file prob. noted earlier) | |
| 17:22 | nengard | I thought XSLT was only opac |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | apparently not? |
| 17:22 | nengard | hmm |
| 17:23 | wizzyrea | i mean, I could have something set up funky but it's pretty much out of the bo |
| 17:23 | box* | |
| 17:24 | soooo, if that is true, we need to either 1. change the name/location of the syspref or 2. split out the functionality of the two prefs: one for opac and one for intranet | |
| 17:25 | (and fix the fact that it's broken, of course) | |
| 17:26 | owen | #2. |
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| 17:36 | wizzyrea | bug 3920 bug 3921 |
| 17:36 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3920 major, P5, ---, paul.poulainbiblibre.com, NEW, XSLTdetailDisplay syspref controls both OPAC and Intranet XSLT detail display |
| 17:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3921 major, P5, ---, paul.poulainbiblibre.com, NEW, XSLTdetailDisplay throws error in staff client |
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| 17:58 | owen | Hi arturo8a |
| 17:58 | arturo8a | hi owen |
| 17:59 | hi to all =) | |
| 18:00 | owen, i need some help with koha | |
| 18:00 | =( | |
| 18:00 | owen | Ask away, if someone knows the answer they will answer |
| 18:00 | arturo8a | ok :) |
| 18:00 | (first, sorry for my bad english) | |
| 18:01 | well, my Librarian ask me this: | |
| 18:01 | she needs to all fields of authorities can be search from opac | |
| 18:03 | i dont know how to do this =/. So... i need to modify the way that koha is indexing authorities and biblios, and modify re-indexing script | |
| 18:05 | im using zebra... i need to create some "record.abs" like biblios marc_def but for authorities. I dont know where record.abs is called to indexing | |
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| 18:06 | cait | hi #koha |
| 18:06 | arturo8a | hi cait |
| 18:11 | owen | arturo8a: My silence means I don't know the answer :) |
| 18:12 | arturo8a | hahaha |
| 18:12 | thanks, anyway | |
| 18:12 | where you from, owen? | |
| 18:12 | owen | Nelsonville Public Library. Ohio, U.S.A. |
| 18:13 | jdavidb | Hi, cait! :) |
| 18:14 | arturo8a | I'm from UNI Central Library. Lima, Perù |
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| 18:16 | arturo8a | wich version of koha are you using? |
| 18:20 | owen | We're on an incrementally updated version of 3.0 |
| 18:22 | nengard | woo hoo - groceries delivered now i can eat lunch :) be back soon |
| 18:22 | cait | hi jdavidb and owen :) |
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| 18:37 | jdavidb | Good evening, paul_p! |
| 18:38 | paul_p | hi jdavidb (at hotel in lille) |
| 18:38 | very cold... | |
| 18:39 | jdavidb | It's much warmer here today--was very chilly over the weekend. |
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| 18:41 | jdavidb | Howdy, collum. :) |
| 18:45 | collum | Hi jdavidb |
| 18:48 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:48 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is -2.8�C (7:40 PM CET on December 14, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:50 | jdavidb | @wunder 20852 |
| 18:50 | munin | jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 10.1�C (1:43 PM EST on December 14, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:54 | wizzyrea | question: I'm looking at the cataloguing search page (addbooks.pl, more -> cataloguing) and the focus appears to be set for the search box in the code, but it's not working |
| 18:55 | can anyone else verify? | |
| 18:57 | chris | morning |
| 18:57 | wizzyrea | mornin chris |
| 18:58 | imp | wizzyrea: true, you can't start typing into the searchbox right after the reload |
| 18:59 | brendan | morning chris |
| 19:00 | chris | have i shown you guys the work pie has been doing? |
| 19:00 | http://kohacon.appspot.com/ | |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | <input type="text" name="q" size="40" class="focus" /> |
| 19:00 | This should set the focus though, right? | |
| 19:00 | nengard | chris - that doesn't look like a pie |
| 19:00 | ... | |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | ooh very nice |
| 19:01 | brendan | chris - this is what I got -- http://koha.pastebin.com/m51c8ff29 |
| 19:01 | never mind chris - cleared up | |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | mine was pretty >.> |
| 19:01 | nengard | hey chris - didn't you say that HLT was using task scheduler? |
| 19:01 | chris | nope, they are live on 3 yet |
| 19:01 | paul_p | g'morning chris. |
| 19:01 | chris | arent even |
| 19:02 | hi paul_p , thanks for the nice comment | |
| 19:02 | paul_p | Hello wizzyrea, brendan & nengar |
| 19:02 | brendan | heya paul_p |
| 19:02 | paul_p | chris: was sincere ... |
| 19:02 | chris | nengard: the trick with the scheduler is the user that the webserver runs as, needs to have permissions to use at |
| 19:03 | nengard | how do i know who has permissions to run it? |
| 19:03 | just look at the directory listing? | |
| 19:03 | chris | look at /etc/at.allow |
| 19:03 | if that exists then the users in that | |
| 19:04 | if /etc/at.deny exists .. but is blank ... every user can use at | |
| 19:04 | but if neither exist, only superusers can | |
| 19:04 | paul_p: yep, it was good advice | |
| 19:04 | nengard | chris I have at.deny - but not at.allow |
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| 19:04 | chris | is at.deny blank? |
| 19:04 | nengard | nope |
| 19:05 | full | |
| 19:05 | chris | so it has entries in it? is there one for www-data? |
| 19:06 | nengard | yup |
| 19:07 | chris | that will be blocking it |
| 19:07 | nengard | so remove that line? |
| 19:07 | chris | this is on your virtual machine eh? not one out on the net somewhere? |
| 19:07 | nengard | right |
| 19:07 | chris | yeah remove that line |
| 19:07 | nengard | all local |
| 19:08 | chris | (don't do that on a production machine, on a production machine you want your koha sites to run as their own user and use that to run at, but for testing this is fine) |
| 19:09 | nengard | WOO HOO |
| 19:09 | I got further than I have ever gotten before | |
| 19:09 | I will include your tips from this chat in the manual - including an important note to not delete www-data | |
| 19:10 | now all i'm missing is email functionality of my vm :) in short - i won't get this report because it can't email it to me | |
| 19:11 | chris | yep |
| 19:11 | now your cpan one | |
| 19:11 | cait | a tutorial how to set up sendmail for testing would be nice (have no email on my laptop too) |
| 19:12 | owen | nengard: Install postfix? |
| 19:12 | chris | sudo cpan -fi PDF::API2::Simple |
| 19:12 | nengard | chris same errors |
| 19:12 | owen - huh? :) | |
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| 19:14 | owen | https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/s[…]de/C/postfix.html |
| 19:14 | cait | chris: uh, I missed that one too |
| 19:14 | owen | nengard: But I didn't do any detailed configuration and it worked to send something through Koha |
| 19:16 | chris | ok |
| 19:16 | nengard: sudo bash | |
| 19:17 | cd /home/nengard/.cpan/build | |
| 19:17 | ls | |
| 19:17 | find the pdf-api dir | |
| 19:17 | cd into that | |
| 19:17 | (will have some random looking characters in the dir name as well) | |
| 19:17 | nengard | -bash: cd: PDF-API2-Simple-1.1.4-U40ggL: Permission denied |
| 19:17 | chris | did you do the sudo bash bit first? |
| 19:18 | nengard | uh huh - didn't work |
| 19:18 | nengarddebian:~/kohaclone$ nengard: sudo bash |
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| 19:18 | -bash: nengard:: command not found | |
| 19:18 | chris | eek no bash ... horrible |
| 19:18 | ok | |
| 19:18 | sudo su | |
| 19:18 | cait | chris: it worked for me - i will try to follow to, had problems with this package too |
| 19:18 | chris | cool |
| 19:18 | so once you get into the dir | |
| 19:19 | perl Makefile.PL | |
| 19:19 | make | |
| 19:19 | make test | |
| 19:19 | then paste me the output of the test | |
| 19:19 | cait | makefile failed |
| 19:19 | chris | what was the error it said? |
| 19:20 | nengard | debian:/home/nengard/.cpan/build/PDF-API2-Simple-1.1.4-U40ggL# perl Makefile.PLCan't locate inc/Module/Install.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at Makefile.PL line 1. |
| 19:20 | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Makefile.PL line 1. | |
| 19:20 | cait | same here :) |
| 19:20 | chris | oh easy peasy |
| 19:21 | cpan Module::Install | |
| 19:22 | cait | installing |
| 19:22 | nengard | me too |
| 19:24 | wow - longest install ever | |
| 19:24 | cait | yes... |
| 19:25 | hm it stopped moving... | |
| 19:29 | ah :) | |
| 19:29 | nengard | chris - results |
| 19:29 | debian:/home/nengard/.cpan/build/PDF-API2-Simple-1.1.4-U40ggL# make | |
| 19:29 | cp lib/PDF/API2/Simple.pm blib/lib/PDF/API2/Simple.pm | |
| 19:29 | Manifying blib/man3/PDF::API2::Simple.3pm | |
| 19:29 | debian:/home/nengard/.cpan/build/PDF-API2-Simple-1.1.4-U40ggL# make test | |
| 19:29 | PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'inc', 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/01.t t/02_open.t t/pod.t | |
| 19:29 | t/01.t ....... ok | |
| 19:29 | cait | finished |
| 19:29 | nengard | t/02_open.t .. ok |
| 19:29 | t/pod.t ...... skipped: Test::Pod 1.00 required for testing POD | |
| 19:29 | All tests successful. | |
| 19:29 | Files=3, Tests=10, 1 wallclock secs ( 0.02 usr 0.04 sys + 0.61 cusr 0.47 csys = 1.14 CPU) | |
| 19:29 | Result: PASS | |
| 19:30 | cait | me too |
| 19:30 | here too | |
| 19:33 | chris | cool make install |
| 19:34 | nengard | Installing /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/PDF/API2/Simple.pm |
| 19:34 | Installing /usr/local/man/man3/PDF::API2::Simple.3pm | |
| 19:34 | Appending installation info to /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0/perllocal.pod | |
| 19:34 | cait | Appending installation info to /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0/perllocal.pod |
| 19:34 | ok, same here, missed first 2 lines | |
| 19:34 | nengard | :)( |
| 19:34 | or :) | |
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| 19:35 | richard | hi |
| 19:35 | chris | hi richard |
| 19:35 | richard | hey chris |
| 19:35 | nengard | chris - it's installed!!!!! WOO HOOO |
| 19:36 | unfortunatly that wasn't the problem with the basket printing | |
| 19:36 | it still can't print ... oh well - but at least i have it installed now | |
| 19:36 | chris | yeah thats spine lables |
| 19:36 | labels too | |
| 19:37 | cait | nengard: do you have sysprefs for pdf set? |
| 19:37 | nengard | cait - what sys prefs? |
| 19:37 | :) | |
| 19:37 | guess not | |
| 19:38 | cait | kf: hdl told me they must be set when I could not print pdf from biblibre's test installation |
| 19:38 | nengard | ah - how do i create/get templates to include? |
| 19:38 | adn what pdfformat sholuld i have? | |
| 19:38 | cait | I have to sysprefs for pdf |
| 19:39 | paul_p | nengard: look at the apache logs |
| 19:39 | cait | OrderPdfFormat set to pdfformat::layout3pages |
| 19:39 | and OrderPdfTemplate (empty) | |
| 19:39 | paul_p | if there is an error, you'll get html, that acrobat can't open |
| 19:39 | cait | orderpdfformat has no description |
| 19:39 | oh nengard - have you tried to open the generated pdf-file with editor? | |
| 19:39 | nengard | paul_p - okay - but there needs to be a better way to make it clear to the librarian using the system that printing will fail |
| 19:40 | cait | I had an error message in it |
| 19:40 | nengard | like on other pages where it says - you need to set this sys pref |
| 19:40 | or this notice for this work | |
| 19:40 | paul_p | nengard: the syspref should be correct by default (pdfformat::layout3pages iirc) |
| 19:41 | ( or pdfformat::layout2pages ) | |
| 19:42 | chris | paul_p: http://stats.workbuffer.org/gitbuilder/ running the tests against each branch |
| 19:44 | nengard | paul_p - my default is this: pdfformat::example |
| 19:44 | and I didn't put it that way | |
| 19:44 | paul_p | nengard: then it's a bug ! should be layout2pages or layout3pages |
| 19:44 | nengard | k - i'll update my bug report |
| 19:44 | cait | nengard: did you update? I have a new installation |
| 19:44 | nengard | cait i did an update |
| 19:45 | cait | in my new installation its: pdfformat::layout3pages |
| 19:45 | hdl_laptop | chris : WOWOWOWOW !!!!! Cool. |
| 19:46 | chris : 3.0.x fails tests. | |
| 19:46 | chris | hdl_laptop: yep, but i sent a patch to fix master |
| 19:46 | i will send one for the 3.0.x today | |
| 19:46 | hdl_laptop | I should remove labels tests which fails quite unfairly |
| 19:46 | chris | *nod* |
| 19:47 | hdl_laptop: what it does, is if it fails, it uses git-bisect to try and find when it last worked | |
| 19:47 | eg | |
| 19:47 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/gi[…]rigin/translation | |
| 19:47 | now i know that commit 1f7c701 broke the tests in the translation branch | |
| 19:47 | hdl_laptop | ok. |
| 19:48 | chris | so once we get the tests all going nicely, then this can run all the time and we can spot commits that break them more easily |
| 19:48 | hdl_laptop | So it seems that 3.0.x tests have been broken for a big while. |
| 19:49 | chris | yes, for quite a while |
| 19:49 | does it use C4/Record.pm ? | |
| 19:49 | that was breaking master | |
| 19:50 | hdl_laptop: the other thing i played with in the weekend was gitdm to generate these stats | |
| 19:50 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/3.2.0.html | |
| 19:50 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/3.0.1.html | |
| 19:50 | etc | |
| 19:51 | hdl_laptop | chris yes : for export.pl |
| 19:51 | uses C4/Record.pm | |
| 19:51 | chris | right |
| 19:52 | hdl_laptop | Is it consolidated figures ? |
| 19:52 | paul_p | chris: you cheater: with translations commits, you'll always & easily be the 1st commiter ever :D |
| 19:52 | chris | heh |
| 19:53 | collum | looks like I've been slacking. Expect some patches soon. |
| 19:53 | chris | paul_p: yep, i dont have many translation ones in 3.2.0 yet tho :) |
| 19:54 | the employer ones are interesting | |
| 19:55 | cait | paul_p: just saw nicoles bug update... will work on xslt once i get zebra working in my new installation |
| 19:55 | owen | Ah, translations. I was wondering how chris had managed to be so busy! |
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| 19:58 | chris | yep for 3.0.x its mostly translations |
| 20:00 | paul_p | chris: something is wrong with http://stats.workbuffer.org/3.2.0.html = I have no lines removed, but I removed many scripts for new_acq. |
| 20:00 | chris | its not who removed them, its who's lines they were i think |
| 20:00 | paul_p | even in this cas, someone else should have them credited |
| 20:01 | chris | and i think the signoff gets in the way |
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| 20:42 | cait | do I need koha-zebraqueue-daemon when using rebuild_zebra.pl as crontab? |
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| 20:56 | chris | yeah another patch from wizzyrea |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | another teeny librarian annoyance resolved, I hope |
| 21:13 | owen++ for insisting on unique id's for everything | |
| 21:14 | owen | Even better would be if I followed through and made it so |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | dude, anything is better than nothing ^.^ |
| 21:15 | I'm wondering if I should go ahead and fix this thing that is an annoyance for our librarians | |
| 21:15 | I did it locally with jquery but it might be one of those things that a permanent fix would make more sense | |
| 21:16 | (I fixed the focus of the cataloging search box so that the cursor goes into it on page load) | |
| 21:16 | chris | do it |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | well ok then, I will |
| 21:16 | chris | :) |
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| 21:28 | wizzyrea | omg, fastest bug turnaround ever! |
| 21:28 | fredericd++ | |
| 21:28 | chris | heh |
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| 21:29 | cait | wow |
| 21:29 | and *sigh* | |
| 21:31 | fredericd++ | |
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| 21:31 | owen | I feel a similar tinge of regret when someone else fixes something I wanted to fix |
| 21:31 | * owen | enjoys fixing stuff! |
| 21:32 | owen | But I would hate to discourage someone from contributing! |
| 21:32 | cait | owen: wow, you understand me :) |
| 21:36 | * cait | working on her first crontab |
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| 22:23 | lakab | anyone care to answer a question? |
| 22:24 | it has to do with integrating information into the koha db from an LDAP source | |
| 22:24 | imp | if it's not another metaquestion, maybe ;) |
| 22:24 | lakab | metaquestion? What did I miss? ;) |
| 22:25 | chris | its always easier to ask the question than ask about asking the question :) |
| 22:25 | lakab | ah... right |
| 22:25 | chris | if ppl know the answer they will answer :) |
| 22:25 | cait | and chris has answers to everything ;) |
| 22:25 | lakab | so: I have my Koha speaking to my LDAP server |
| 22:25 | chris | not LDAP |
| 22:25 | lakab | (got it - thanks!) |
| 22:25 | haha | |
| 22:25 | chris | someone else is gonna have to answer that one :) |
| 22:26 | lakab | anyway, I have integration set to "1" in the config, and it is working well |
| 22:26 | EXCEPT - it isn't bringing over the "firstname" attribute | |
| 22:27 | I know I have it mapped right - if I do an "ldapsearch" from the CLI for the property in the LDAP records, I find the right info | |
| 22:27 | <firstname is="givenname" ></firstname> | |
| 22:27 | is there something I'm missing? | |
| 22:28 | all the other bits of info being integrated were the default-ly required ones | |
| 22:28 | I added firstname to the <config> section, thinking it would just grab it naturally, but this is not the case | |
| 22:28 | I've googled around, but either I'm not asking the question correctly, or no one has had this problem before ;) | |
| 22:29 | chris | im not sure anyone who uses LDAP is on at the mo, but this is all being logged ;) you might want to email the koha list with the question, hopefully joe who wrote a bunch of the LDAP stuff will see it and answer |
| 22:29 | lakab | cool - the general support list or the devel list? |
| 22:30 | chris | probably just the general, if its starts getting techy, can shift it over |
| 22:30 | lakab | heh, got it - thanks! |
| 22:43 | mailing list inquery is away - thanks for the help | |
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| 22:43 | chris | no problem hopefully someone has an answer for you |
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| 23:44 | Nate | until tomorow #koha! |
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| 23:50 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 23:50 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -15.1�C (5:48 PM CST on December 14, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: -20.0�C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022.6 hPa (Falling). Wind Chill Advisory in effect from midnight tonight to 11 am CST Tuesday... |
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