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| 00:15 | * pianohacker | has a minor expires/caching question for chris or anyone else who's around |
| 00:43 | chris | fire away |
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| 01:49 | Jo | hi all |
| 02:26 | pianohacker | chris: haha, I missed your cue :) If you're still around, I was curious why firefox wouldn't be sending if-last-modified on requests for static content (especially in regards to koha) |
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| 02:28 | chris | curl -I url .. what headers is the page setting? |
| 02:29 | eg curl -I http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]g/en/css/opac.css | |
| 02:30 | by default i dont think koha sets expires or cache headers | |
| 02:32 | contrast that to | |
| 02:32 | curl -I http://public.demo.kohalibrary[…]g/en/css/opac.css | |
| 02:32 | mine is setting an expires header, which will make firefox know to worry about the last modified | |
| 02:32 | pastebot | "pianohacker" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Comparison of headers" (44 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/86 |
| 02:33 | pianohacker | Okay, mine's definitely missing cache-control and expires |
| 02:33 | chris | yeah |
| 02:33 | there was a patch | |
| 02:33 | im not sure it got accepted | |
| 02:33 | ill find it | |
| 02:34 | masonj | i remember seeing it hit the patch-list |
| 02:35 | pianohacker | Hmm. Oddly enough, neither firebug nor wireshark show if-modified-since on the second request (not reload) to opac.koha.workbuffer.org |
| 02:36 | chris | weird |
| 02:36 | pianohacker | I think I must have turned caching off somehow |
| 02:37 | Do you happen to know how to trigger if-modified-since -> 304 style behavior? My understanding is that while not as efficient as expires, it allows in-place changes (like for a staff intranet) without requiring the version-at-the-end trick | |
| 02:40 | chris | ok try hitting that css on my site now |
| 02:42 | pianohacker | It was broken on my end, as it turns out :) |
| 02:42 | chris | yeah i could see it handing out 304's |
| 02:43 | pianohacker | There we go. Now I know what settings to change on my server, thanks for your patience |
| 02:45 | chris | no worries |
| 02:45 | heres what i have | |
| 02:46 | pastebot | "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "expires" (6 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/87 |
| 02:48 | pianohacker | Changing those values based on opac/staff, production/testing/devel/etc of course. Thanks |
| 02:50 | chris | *nod* |
| 02:52 | pianohacker | Dare I ask how your latest patch solved bug 3861? |
| 02:52 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3861 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, ASSIGNED, Can't Place Holds in OPAC |
| 02:52 | chris | the problem was C4::Items and C4::Biblio both use C4::Reserves |
| 02:53 | the ordering was causing it to get redefined in bad ways .. the real fix is to rewrite chunks of code to kill those circular dependencies | |
| 02:53 | but for now, changing the order makes them behave better | |
| 02:54 | pianohacker | If I understand it, we'll probably have to split some modules into pieces so it's an inheritance hierarchy rather than spiderweb, right? |
| 02:54 | chris | exactly |
| 02:56 | and removing interdependence | |
| 02:56 | just like normalising a db really | |
| 02:56 | fixing many to manys :) | |
| 02:56 | pianohacker | yup |
| 03:18 | Jo | chris: |
| 03:19 | if there are bugs in bugzilla which I need to have fixed for us, and they are not assigned to you, what do i do? | |
| 03:20 | chris | make a wr in wrms, allocate it to me, and put the bug number in it |
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| 03:24 | Amit | heya brendan, chris, |
| 03:24 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:25 | chris | hi Amit |
| 03:30 | brendan | hi Amit |
| 03:30 | Jo | thanks chris |
| 03:30 | Amit | heya Jo |
| 03:30 | Jo | hiya :) |
| 03:31 | Chris: do i reassign it in bugzilla ? | |
| 03:31 | chris | ill do that when i go to work on it |
| 03:31 | Jo | cool - thanks |
| 03:31 | chris | someone might beat me :) |
| 03:31 | (we live in hope) | |
| 03:33 | * pianohacker | thinks he's figured out cas, looks vaguely like openid for intranets, could be a very nice alternative to ldap for some people |
| 03:33 | Jo | its taking me quite some time to my head around the bugs |
| 03:33 | trying not to re-identify known bugs | |
| 03:33 | SelfishMan | /ignore WormFood |
| 03:33 | dammit | |
| 03:33 | pie | pianohacker: do you have a link with info about cas? |
| 03:34 | I can't find anything on it | |
| 03:34 | Jo | and wanting to lock them in my head so when I'm testing and find something odd I can recognise it as already reported or find it in bugzilla |
| 03:34 | pianohacker | pie: http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/CASUM |
| 03:34 | pie | sweet, thanks :) |
| 03:34 | * pie | is always interested in identity and authentication :) |
| 03:35 | pie | heh, I'm usually chilts on this channel ... wonder how long I've been pie for :) |
| 03:39 | brendan | pie is an interesting nick though |
| 03:41 | pie | :) |
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| 04:10 | pianohacker | Good night |
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| 04:56 | Genji | hiya all! |
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| 05:41 | greenmang0 | @wunder mumbai |
| 05:41 | munin | greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 29.0�C (10:40 AM IST on December 10, 2009). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:41 | CGI985 | when I want to run 'sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml' |
| 05:41 | but it shows 'sudo: no passwd entry for koha!' | |
| 05:42 | what should I do?? | |
| 05:42 | greenmang0 | CGI985: you might want to set password for a system user koha |
| 05:46 | CGI985 | greenmang0: how can I set password and what is user koha? |
| 05:47 | greenmang0: I have kept kohadatabaseuser as 'kohaadmin' and password '12'. now wht should I do?? | |
| 05:48 | greenmang0 | that is a mysql user |
| 05:48 | and your problem is regarding a system user koha | |
| 05:49 | CGI985 | so how can I set it? Im still not getting user koha... |
| 05:49 | greenmang0 | use "su -" to get a root user access of your system and then execute "passwd koha" to set password for a system user - koha |
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| 05:54 | CGI985 | greenmang0: how can I write this command plz write it in proper format as I can run it |
| 05:54 | greenmang0 | su - |
| 05:54 | notice hypen - this is to get root access | |
| 05:54 | passwd koha | |
| 05:55 | CGI985 | i have done it Im now in root |
| 05:55 | greenmang0 | this is to set password for koha system user |
| 05:55 | CGI985 | but command passwd koha show me 'passwd: unknown user koha' |
| 05:59 | greenmang0: it is not working at myside | |
| 05:59 | greenmang0 | what is not working? |
| 05:59 | CGI985 | it show 'passwd: unknown user koha' |
| 05:59 | greenmang0 | CGI985: that means koha user doesn't exist on your system |
| 05:59 | try this command | |
| 06:00 | useradd -m -s /bin/bash koha | |
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| 06:03 | CGI985 | greenmang0: which commad. my IRC chat is going offlince frequently. I dnt why? |
| 06:03 | greenmang0 | useradd -m -s /bin/bash koha |
| 06:03 | as a root user | |
| 06:04 | Steven | anybody still using v2.2.9? |
| 06:05 | i m wondering how to define holiday date in v2.9? | |
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| 06:09 | Steven | anybody can help? |
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| 06:11 | CGI985 | greenmang: why is my irc going offline after some seconds |
| 06:11 | Steven | i m wondering how to define holiday date in v2.9? |
| 06:12 | CGI985 | greenmang: these command working now i run 'sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml' |
| 06:12 | it show one permission denied http://pastebin.org/62977 | |
| 06:13 | now should i continue or fix this fatal?? | |
| 06:15 | 04greenmang> is it error ?? | |
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| 06:16 | Steven | anybody can help me? i m using v2.2.9 koha....i wanna define holiday date into the system, any idea? |
| 06:17 | CGI985 | 04greenmang> wht should I do now? |
| 06:17 | wht shld I do? | |
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| 06:18 | CGI985 | 02wht should i do? |
| 06:19 | 02green mang> http://pastebin.org/62977 | |
| 06:20 | greenmang0 | CGI985: execute "su - koha" |
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| 06:32 | CGI985 | 04greenmang: >it still now working |
| 06:33 | greenmang: it show sudoer r not registered | |
| 06:33 | then I run this command su - | |
| 06:33 | echo -ne "koha ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL\n" >> /etc/sudoers | |
| 06:33 | su - koha | |
| 06:34 | now it show 'sudo: zebrasrc: command not found' | |
| 06:35 | greenmang0 | i think the command is "zebrasrv" |
| 06:35 | you made a typo | |
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| 06:38 | CGI985 | greenmang0: it show still same as http://pastebin.org/62977 |
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| 06:40 | CGI985 | greenmang: it show me that sudoer r not registered and wil be reported then I run 'echo -ne "koha ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL\n" >> /etc/sudoers' |
| 06:41 | now koha user is not asking passwd and same error show as http://pastebin.org/62977 | |
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| 06:48 | CGI985 | 04greenmang: |
| 06:48 | wht is the fatal?? | |
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| 06:52 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 06:53 | imp | moin Ropuch |
| 06:57 | Amit | @wounder Bangalore, india |
| 06:57 | munin | Amit: Error: "wounder" is not a valid command. |
| 06:57 | Amit | @wunder Bangalore india |
| 06:57 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 24.0�C (11:30 AM IST on December 10, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. |
| 06:58 | imp | @wunder hannover germany |
| 06:58 | munin | imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is 6.0�C (7:50 AM CET on December 10, 2009). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:59 | imp | meeh :( |
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| 07:00 | Amit | heya imp |
| 07:00 | CGI985 | sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 25 <<<sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 25 |
| 07:01 | wht it is not running ?? | |
| 07:01 | Amit | i think |
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| 07:01 | Amit | CG1985: sudo zebrasrv -f |
| 07:01 | heya nicomo | |
| 07:01 | greenmang0 | CGI985: paste complete error |
| 07:01 | nicomo | hello Amit, morning all |
| 07:01 | greenmang0 | CGI985: paste /etc/sudoers on pastebin |
| 07:02 | CGI985 | sudoers is not opening? how can I open it? |
| 07:03 | I have also run this command 'echo -ne "koha ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL\n" >> /etc/sudoers' | |
| 07:04 | greenmang0 | CGI985: su - |
| 07:04 | get root access and open sudoers | |
| 07:06 | CGI985 | http://pastebin.org/62998 |
| 07:09 | greenmang0 have u got it | |
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| 07:12 | CGI985 | why is my CGI:IRC is going disconnected after some minuters |
| 07:12 | minutes | |
| 07:13 | greenmang: http://pastebin.org/62998 | |
| 07:15 | im | |
| 07:17 | greenmang0 | CGI985: http://pastebin.org/62999 |
| 07:17 | check what changes i have done... do it accordingly | |
| 07:17 | edit file /etc/sudoers manually | |
| 07:17 | don't use that "echo" command | |
| 07:18 | CGI985 | how can I add |
| 07:18 | edit | |
| 07:18 | ?? | |
| 07:18 | greenmang0 | nano /etc/sudoers as a root user |
| 07:20 | CGI985 | ok |
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| 07:28 | CGI985 | 04greenmang> |
| 07:28 | it show still same fatal permision denied | |
| 07:28 | http://pastebin.org/63001 | |
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| 07:32 | Ropuch | hm |
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| 07:36 | CGI985 | greenmang0: do u know what is the prob |
| 07:38 | greenmang0 | CGI985: nope... what are you try to do? |
| 07:38 | what that command does? | |
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| 07:40 | CGI985 | http://pastebin.org/63001 |
| 07:41 | greenmang0: why is my CGI:IRC is going disconnected after some minutes | |
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| 07:45 | greenmang0 | CGI985: no clue |
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| 07:46 | Genji | maybe that guy's router has a inactive nat timer. |
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| 07:52 | CGI985 | j |
| 07:52 | 04greenmang> | |
| 07:53 | Genji | CGI093: how are you connecting to the net? |
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| 07:54 | CGI985 | Genji: by proxy |
| 07:55 | then on 'http://koha.org/support/free-support' | |
| 07:55 | and enter web based one | |
| 07:55 | Genji | CGI985: then, i figure that your proxy is seeing that the connection representing your IRC session, is idle, and disconnects you. |
| 07:56 | Your solution, use a actual client. | |
| 07:56 | CGI985 | mean? |
| 07:56 | Genji | The usual irc Pings from mirc will keep your connection active. |
| 07:56 | CGI985 | Im not getting |
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| 07:59 | CGI985 | Genji: Im not getting |
| 08:01 | Genji | CGI985: i suggest, download mirc |
| 08:01 | What OS are you using? Windows? Mac? | |
| 08:01 | Linux? | |
| 08:02 | CGI985 | linux debian |
| 08:02 | Genji | Ah. |
| 08:02 | CGI985 | debian-lenny |
| 08:02 | Genji | Then, prehaps, bitchX. |
| 08:02 | Think thats it... | |
| 08:02 | Or, mirc under Wine. | |
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| 08:03 | Genji | http://www.ircreviews.org/clie[…]forms-unix-x.html |
| 08:04 | CGI985 | Genji: wht r u saying, Im not getting??? |
| 08:04 | Genji | |
| 08:04 | Genji | The reason for your timeout is, your http proxy thinks that you are done with your http connection, because no information exchange occurs, when no one is talking. |
| 08:05 | And, it disconnects it. | |
| 08:05 | Avoid this, by using a real irc client. | |
| 08:05 | CGI985 | how can i using real irc |
| 08:06 | Genji | go to the link I just gave you, go through the clients, and choose one. |
| 08:07 | paul_p | hello world |
| 08:08 | Genji | don't you mean: print "Hello world"; ? |
| 08:09 | paul_p | lol |
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| 08:26 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 08:26 | Ropuch | guten Morgen kf [; |
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| 08:28 | Ropuch | CGI558: have solved yopur zebra problems? |
| 08:28 | paul_p | good morning germany ! |
| 08:28 | CGI558 | no |
| 08:28 | Ropuch | Bonjour France ;> |
| 08:28 | CGI558 | ropouch: no still not |
| 08:28 | http://pastebin.org/63001 | |
| 08:29 | Ropuch | CGI558: 09:05 < CGI985> how can i using real irc |
| 08:29 | ugh | |
| 08:29 | CGI558: http://koha.pastebin.com/d519190c3 | |
| 08:29 | Paste it to a file, chmod it and sudo run it | |
| 08:30 | quick & dirty method to get your zebra running | |
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| 08:35 | CGI985 | Ropuch: how can I paste it? |
| 08:36 | Ropuch | Just open your text editor, paste the content and save it (call it whatever you want, zebra.sh for example) |
| 08:37 | Then chmod +x zebra.sh | |
| 08:37 | and ./zebra.sh | |
| 08:39 | CGI985 | Ropuch: Im hanged in... |
| 08:39 | not getting even an iota | |
| 08:41 | installation of koha take me too much time.. as month have been passed | |
| 08:41 | but Im still in trouble | |
| 08:43 | Ropuch: plz solve my zebra problem | |
| 08:43 | greenmang0 | CGI985: because you are not a full time debian user i suppose... when you get time read this http://dsl.org/cookbook/cookbook_toc.html |
| 08:44 | CGI985: this will help you get your hands on everyday used linux commands and make you aware of how to use them | |
| 08:44 | :) | |
| 08:45 | CGI985 | greenmang0: thank you green mag0 |
| 08:45 | do u help me now abt zebra | |
| 08:45 | it is http://pastebin.org/63001 | |
| 08:49 | kf | check if the last file zebra.pid exists and has the right permissions (I think user must be koha) |
| 08:49 | owner | |
| 08:50 | Ropuch | And check if you have /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios directory |
| 08:51 | CGI985: I have this working every time I try it | |
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| 08:53 | Ropuch | CGI985: sudo chown -R koha:koha /var/lock/koha/zebradb/ |
| 08:53 | Then: /usr/share/koha/bin/./koha-zebra-ctl.sh start | |
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| 09:23 | paul_p | chris++ for digging into long time standing bz entries... |
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| 10:08 | greenmang0 | is PDF indexing possible with Zebra Indexing ? |
| 10:09 | Genji | Would probably have to go through a PDF to text process first. |
| 10:09 | That is, your wanting full text indexing? | |
| 10:10 | Amit | heya Genji |
| 10:12 | Genji | hiya Amit. |
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| 10:12 | Genji | Im curious, Amit, greenmang0, what do you guys do / who do you support? |
| 10:12 | Amit | Genji: please be clear |
| 10:13 | * Genji | hrms.. "I am a part time developer of Koha for a Saudi Arabian journal article archive." |
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| 10:27 | CGI348 | when I want to run the command 'sudo -u ${koha} misc/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl' |
| 10:28 | it show sudo: no passwd entry for misc/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl! | |
| 10:28 | wht command I use to avoid this | |
| 10:32 | Ropuch | sudo -u koha |
| 10:33 | greenmang0 | Genji: i am a sysadmin.. who knows how to install koha / kete... but doesn't know how to make koha search full text... ;) |
| 10:36 | CGI348 | ropuch: it is not working |
| 10:36 | Ropuch | Ok, stell me where are you now |
| 10:37 | I mean: in your system - type pwd and press enter | |
| 10:37 | CGI348 | Im at kohalumhs-b70715be2:~$ |
| 10:38 | Ropuch | pwd |
| 10:38 | I'm intersted in your working directory | |
| 10:38 | CGI348 | 12 |
| 10:38 | mean..? | |
| 10:38 | Ropuch | ? |
| 10:38 | CGI348 | password 12 |
| 10:38 | Ropuch | Type pwd in your console and press enter |
| 10:38 | ropuchbagno:~/Projekty/koha/3.2(kohawbz)$ pwd |
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| 10:38 | /home/ropuch/Projekty/koha/3.2 | |
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| 10:39 | Ropuch | It will show in whata directory you're in |
| 10:40 | CGI348 | Im at home/lumhs |
| 10:41 | sorry | |
| 10:41 | home/nouman | |
| 10:41 | Ropuch | No problem |
| 10:41 | ;> | |
| 10:41 | Ok, where do you have your koha installed? In default /usr/share/koha? | |
| 10:41 | CGI348 | yeah offcourse |
| 10:42 | Ropuch | ok |
| 10:42 | cd /usr/share/koha/bin | |
| 10:43 | CGI348 | ok now Im in bin |
| 10:43 | Ropuch | export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib |
| 10:43 | export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml | |
| 10:44 | CGI348 | done it |
| 10:44 | Ropuch | sudo mkdir -p /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/ |
| 10:44 | sudo mkdir -p /var/lock/koha/zebradb/authorities/ | |
| 10:46 | CGI348 | I have done it |
| 10:50 | Ropuch | sudo migration_tools/./rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -v |
| 10:53 | CGI348 | this command is not working |
| 10:53 | Ropuch | Any errors? |
| 10:53 | CGI348 | http://pastebin.org/63017 |
| 10:55 | Ropuch | Ok, another way then |
| 10:55 | sudo bash | |
| 10:55 | export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib | |
| 10:56 | export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml | |
| 10:56 | migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -v | |
| 10:56 | /usr/share/koha/bin/./koha-zebra-ctl.sh start | |
| 10:56 | chown -R koha:koha /var/lock/koha/zebradb/ | |
| 10:57 | (I know, we shouldn't be using root account, but this shoould get your zebra working) | |
| 11:03 | CGI348 | here it show some tables does not exist |
| 11:04 | ropuch: http://pastebin.org/63020 | |
| 11:07 | Ropuch | Hm, strange |
| 11:09 | CGI348: you went through web installer? | |
| 11:10 | CGI348 | ropuch |
| 11:10 | no | |
| 11:10 | Ropuch | zebraqueue and auth_headers should be creted during install |
| 11:10 | CGI348 | . Im still in step5 |
| 11:10 | zebraserver and zebraqueue Daemon | |
| 11:11 | next step is web installer. so should I go without fix it? | |
| 11:11 | Ropuch | Yes |
| 11:11 | :) | |
| 11:12 | Running web installer will create needed tables in your koha database | |
| 11:12 | kf | chris: around? |
| 11:12 | Ropuch | CGI348: if you broke something, you can always drop & crete koha database then run webinstaller once more to get a clean koha install |
| 11:13 | So don't hesistate to test things | |
| 11:13 | CGI348 | ok. |
| 11:13 | Im creating databse then run web installer | |
| 11:14 | hope u will b around there to help me | |
| 11:14 | Ropuch | I will |
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| 13:11 | jwagner | Lively bunch this morning.... |
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| 13:16 | Nate | Good morning #koha |
| 13:16 | paul_p | 'morning Nate & jwagner |
| 13:17 | Nate | morning paul_p |
| 13:17 | nengard | morning |
| 13:17 | paul_p | Nate: nope, morning done for frenchies ;-) |
| 13:17 | hi nengard ! | |
| 13:18 | Nate | right I forgot about that! |
| 13:18 | Good morning, afternoon, and night to all | |
| 13:19 | paul_p | right. it's better to say "hello" in fact, you're sure to make no mistake :D |
| 13:19 | hdl_laptop | hi |
| 13:20 | jwagner | OK, "hello" to everyone! |
| 13:22 | Ropuch | ;> |
| 13:22 | jdavidb | Howdy! :D |
| 13:22 | kf | hello everyone |
| 13:26 | nengard | so - i learned something new in docbook last night |
| 13:26 | i learned how to credit others with content they're written - so that means - start sending me your documentation :) hehe | |
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| 13:34 | CGI238 | hi |
| 13:34 | Does anyone know how i can get too irc.freenode.net/#python | |
| 13:34 | Ropuch | CGI238: sure, what irc client aru you using? |
| 13:35 | nengard | paul_p or hdl_laptop - on the opac purchase suggestion form - first thank you for adding ISBN!!! second - what is document type supposed to be? |
| 13:35 | CGI238 | Idk I think most of my clients are blocked by external proxy |
| 13:35 | >.< | |
| 13:35 | I hate places of education | |
| 13:35 | hdl_laptop | itemtype or ccode |
| 13:36 | CGI238 | So |
| 13:36 | anyone got anyidea | |
| 13:36 | of how i can use CGI:IRC to get to irc.freenode.net. | |
| 13:37 | .>>>>>>>...,<<<<<<<<<<< | |
| 13:37 | fucking useless | |
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| 13:37 | * jdavidb | blinks. |
| 13:38 | nengard | hdl_laptop - my list isn't populated with anything - and I do have item types and ccodes set - so is this a bug? |
| 13:39 | * nengard | confused about who or what is useless... |
| 13:39 | hdl_laptop | I guess so. |
| 13:39 | nengard | okey dokey |
| 13:39 | Ropuch | I think he was targeting chanel ;> |
| 13:39 | I was just to tell him to use webchat.freenode.net, but well | |
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| 13:50 | nengard | i'm reading through my old bugs and closing some!! woo hoo!! - but also testing the new acq module to see where it answered some of my requests :) |
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| 14:21 | |Lupin| | hello ! |
| 14:23 | I'd need help with a Perl question, please | |
| 14:23 | my $batch = MARC::Batch->new( 'USMARC', STDIN ); | |
| 14:24 | doesn't work: perl complains that STDIN is a bareword which is not allowed here. | |
| 14:24 | Can anyone pls give me the right syntax ? not sure where o look to find it | |
| 14:37 | nobody ? | |
| 14:38 | Ropuch | My perl skill is little bit oabove hello world ;> |
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| 14:41 | eiro | hello world |
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| 14:49 | jwagner | |Lupin| that's beyond my skills too, but looking at some of the sample usage in the various files, you might try using it as <STDIN> with the brackets. |
| 14:58 | eiro | cya all |
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| 15:11 | |Lupin| | jwagner: no that's for reading lines, but thanks |
| 15:11 | jwagner: the right answer was \*STDIN | |
| 15:11 | jwagner: I writing a script to remove item fields from records | |
| 15:11 | i's weird | |
| 15:11 | yaz-marcdump can read the input record | |
| 15:12 | but when I call it on a file produced by my script | |
| 15:12 | nothing is displayed | |
| 15:21 | * brendan | off in search of coffee |
| 15:24 | jwagner | Brendan's going to South America or someplace??? |
| 15:33 | brendan | no coffee in the house - had to settle for black tea |
| 15:38 | |Lupin| | black tea is healthier than coffee anyway :) |
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| 15:44 | * jdavidb | waves to rhcl |
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| 15:46 | brendan | |Lupin| *sigh* |
| 15:51 | jwagner | Sometimes I think healthiness is vastly overrated/.... |
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| 16:06 | |Lupin| | till soon everybody ! |
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| 16:10 | nengard | brendan i think my hubby would divorce me if ever there was no coffee in the house ... |
| 16:10 | yikes | |
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| 16:11 | brendan | yeah - I'm the only coffee drinker here, so if I want it, I gotta get it |
| 16:11 | :) | |
| 16:16 | nahuel | me too :p |
| 16:16 | (hi) | |
| 16:19 | nengard | brendan - oh yeah - I don't drink coffee either - but still shopping is my job :) hehe |
| 16:19 | I'll brb | |
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| 16:19 | brendan | hey nahuel |
| 16:19 | coffee => excellent | |
| 16:20 | nahuel | Coffee's good ! |
| 16:22 | jwagner | For some reason I'm reminded of a line from Ogden Nash (I think): Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker. It's going to be a long day, I think.... |
| 16:23 | sekjal | nahuel: testing out web-irc. not too shabby! thanks for the pointer |
| 16:23 | nahuel | :) |
| 16:26 | sekjal | oh, yes, and to chip in on earlier conversation thread, coffee is essential |
| 16:27 | hilongo | I like mine without sugar :) |
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| 17:21 | cait | hi #koha |
| 17:24 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 17:24 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 10.2�C (9:21 AM PST on December 10, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Rising). |
| 17:25 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 17:25 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 6.0�C (6:00 PM CET on December 10, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1027 hPa (Rising). |
| 17:25 | jdavidb | @wunder 20852 |
| 17:25 | munin | jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 5.3�C (12:23 PM EST on December 10, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 998.9 hPa (Rising). |
| 17:25 | jdavidb | Finally! |
| 17:25 | cait | hi jdavidb |
| 17:25 | jdavidb | Hi, cait. :D |
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| 18:27 | brendan | howdy jdaivdb ! |
| 18:27 | agreed finally | |
| 18:28 | * jdavidb | makes goofy faces at brendan |
| 18:36 | schuster | wizzyrea - you here? |
| 18:36 | brendan | hey schuster |
| 18:36 | schuster | Hey! |
| 18:37 | brendan | I do have to agree with pianohacker - wish zebra wouldn't fail - so quietly |
| 18:37 | wizzyrea | sup schuster |
| 18:37 | schuster | sitting in on a webinar - still trying to figure out what part of it is dealing with open source! |
| 18:37 | wizzyrea | worst... webinar... ever |
| 18:37 | schuster | I see you wizzyrea!!! |
| 18:38 | wizzyrea | ;) |
| 18:38 | schuster | Watching that last vendor was painful. |
| 18:38 | this vendor I'm trying to figure out what his point is. | |
| 18:41 | jwagner | OK, I'll bite -- which vendors are these??? |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | equinox and sirsi |
| 18:42 | cait | only 2? |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | afaik |
| 18:43 | brendan | true same no one from koha community was invited |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | probably liblime was, but they declined |
| 18:43 | because, you know, they ARE koha | |
| 18:44 | too busy not supporting their clients. | |
| 18:44 | yea, I went there. | |
| 18:44 | jwagner | If this is open source, what's Sirsi doing there? |
| 18:44 | brendan | I don't know who to give the negative karma to here ? |
| 18:45 | schuster | API extendability |
| 18:46 | jwagner | that's a stretch.... |
| 18:48 | * jdavidb | stares at wizzyrea with his mouth hanging open. |
| 18:49 | jdavidb | I bet Josh is reaching for the aloe vera right now, but doesn't know why... |
| 18:49 | wizzyrea++ | |
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| 18:52 | chris | quick hi before catching my bus |
| 18:53 | jdavidb | hi, chris. :) |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | jdavidb: lol |
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| 18:54 | cait | hi chris |
| 18:54 | jwagner | hi quick chris |
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| 18:56 | cait | chris++ for pootle update |
| 18:56 | chris | thanks |
| 18:56 | it seems pretty nice | |
| 18:57 | cait | and i can search :) |
| 18:57 | Genji | hiya all! |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | powah to the koha libraries! schuster++ |
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| 19:00 | veryinky | :| |
| 19:00 | schuster | karma wizzyrea ++ |
| 19:01 | brendan | wizzyrea++ |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | apparently a simple opac is funny to libraries? |
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| 19:02 | chris | ok work time |
| 19:04 | wizzyrea | i'm gonna need a shower after this webinar |
| 19:04 | * veryinky | wonders why koha wants (en-NZ) instead of just (en) |
| 19:05 | cait | differences between en-gb, en-nz and en-us, catalog versus catalogue etc. |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | i've got the proprietary stink on me :P |
| 19:05 | cait | lol |
| 19:06 | veryinky | Yeah. |
| 19:06 | I just noticed that it has Francais (fr-CA) with English (en) under it. Then a | with English (en-NZ) to the right of it. | |
| 19:07 | cait | hm |
| 19:07 | veryinky | But it's odd, english (en) is barely visible. I wonder if it's just like that in mozilla. |
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| 19:07 | veryinky | (running koha 3.0.4) |
| 19:12 | Ok. It's in windows and linux, mozilla and internet explorer. | |
| 19:12 | wizzyrea | weird |
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| 19:16 | nengard | wizzyrea that's a good way to put it - proprietary stink |
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| 19:17 | schuster | holds his breath as it is bad. |
| 19:19 | nengard | schuster i left after equinox - i was only there to hear about the open source and so when that was done I cut out of there |
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| 19:20 | wizzyrea | the chat has been good though |
| 19:20 | I think | |
| 19:20 | veryinky | http://i47.tinypic.com/a9uxyg.png The bottom left corner. Resizing the text or changing the size of the window does not help. |
| 19:22 | schuster | nengard - I see on your website - CJRLC, Live Online, December 15, 2009 - is this open for anyone or? |
| 19:23 | nengard | schuster - it's for CJRLC members - but if they have openings they usually let others in |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | veryinky- hm, you need all of those languages? |
| 19:25 | veryinky | Just french-ca and english. I'm trying, and failing, to remove English (en-NZ). |
| 19:26 | Altering koha/admin/systempreferences.pl, setting it so that it only has (en) and (fr-ca) checked for language and opaclanguages does not seem to remove that en-nz. | |
| 19:27 | (clicking on the save, logging out, closing mozilla, logging back in, even as a different user, the en-nz is still there. | |
| 19:28 | Though I can add/remove languages on the left of that | so I'm guessing I'm using the wrong preferences menu. | |
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| 19:31 | richard | hi |
| 19:32 | veryinky | :| |
| 19:39 | cait | verinky: perhaps its a bug, do you have template files for en-NZ? you could try deleting them |
| 19:41 | veryinky | Well. It's just an irritant at this point, since I'm the only one who's going to be seeing this. The regular staff client only shows fr-ca and en, it's the admin 8080 client that's acting odd. |
| 19:43 | This happened when I upgraded from 3.0.2 to 3.0.4, so I'm installing koha on an other computer to see where I went wrong. | |
| 19:44 | * veryinky | will try deleting the template files if all else fails. |
| 19:45 | chris | back |
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| 19:50 | chris | wizzyrea: todays song of the day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV88zD55_zc |
| 19:51 | wizzyrea | nice! |
| 19:57 | ok, I have a sort of strange jquery question | |
| 19:57 | I want to add to the "results not found" page an option to select a library from a drop-down form | |
| 19:58 | I have the form done, but I'm not sure how to make it show using jquery | |
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| 19:58 | cait | hm |
| 19:59 | I added some warnings to borrowers, where is your problem? | |
| 19:59 | want to send me what you want to show on the page? | |
| 19:59 | wizzyrea | yea, sec |
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| 20:05 | cait | i think a customizable area for no results page would be a nice feature |
| 20:05 | libraries could add hints for searching or links to other catalogs there | |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | yes, that's what I'm doing |
| 20:06 | :) | |
| 20:06 | with jquery | |
| 20:06 | ok sec, gonna stick this on screencast 1s | |
| 20:06 | cait | but a syspref would be nice too :) |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | very |
| 20:08 | ok, the image at the top of the page here | |
| 20:08 | http://2dot8test.mykansaslibrary.org/?page_id=10 | |
| 20:09 | chris | hi bgkriegel |
| 20:09 | bgkriegel | hi chris |
| 20:11 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "the form I'm trying to append to the no results page" (36 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/88 |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | erm, ignore those single quotes :{ |
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| 20:14 | chris | im gonna do some work optimising pootle with memcached etc |
| 20:14 | any weirdness, its probably me | |
| 20:21 | Genji | Whats pootle? |
| 20:22 | cait | Genji: the software used for translating koha |
| 20:23 | bgkriegel | Genji: look our koha pootle on http://translate.koha.org/, it is used to translate koha |
| 20:29 | veryinky | Ah |
| 20:30 | Looks like I selected En-NZ when I installed the update of koha. | |
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| 21:10 | chris | ok it should be a little big faster now |
| 21:16 | s/big/bit/ | |
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| 21:31 | cait | ok, good night #koha |
| 21:31 | chris | night cait |
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| 22:49 | chris | *sigh* |
| 22:54 | imp | hm? |
| 22:55 | chris | andrea's message to the mailing list |
| 22:55 | help me with a report for koha please, oh and by the way we want to shift to LEK | |
| 22:56 | pie | then, 'no thanks' |
| 22:56 | chris | thats what i said, i hope politely |
| 22:56 | pie | :) |
| 22:57 | chris | If you are moving to LEK, we can't really help you too much. Since LEK |
| 22:57 | is not Koha, we don't know what database changes and code changes have | |
| 22:57 | been made in LEK. | |
| 22:57 | We could write something like this for Koha, so that all libraries | |
| 22:57 | would get the benefit of it. But I wouldn't be comfortable doing one | |
| 22:57 | tailored to work in LEK, so it can be locked away. | |
| 22:59 | pie | unless you pay me $1 billion (and even then I might not) |
| 23:00 | of course, with that much cash, you could run a library system for all the libraries in the world for free :) | |
| 23:00 | that'd be awesome :D | |
| 23:00 | chris | :) |
| 23:02 | Genji | chris: what mailing list is this? |
| 23:03 | chris | the main koha one |
| 23:03 | the one i told you to get on :-) | |
| 23:03 | pie | heh |
| 23:03 | Genji | hmm... ill check ita gain.. must of ignored it.... |
| 23:05 | ah found it in koha-dev. | |
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| 23:07 | chris | ah yep, ccd there, actually i think the main one got caught, too many recipients |
| 23:08 | Genji | ... can't believe someone has contact with koha community, but is thinking of going to LEK... |
| 23:08 | liblime-- | |
| 23:08 | @karma liblime | |
| 23:08 | munin | Genji: Karma for "liblime" has been increased 0 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of -5. |
| 23:08 | Genji | katipo++ |
| 23:08 | catalyst++ | |
| 23:09 | openkoha++ | |
| 23:09 | chris++ | |
| 23:09 | chris | lunchtime++ |
| 23:09 | * chris | goes to lunch |
| 23:10 | Genji | @karma lunchtime |
| 23:10 | munin | Genji: Karma for "lunchtime" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 23:10 | Genji | Meh, why not. |
| 23:10 | pie | lunctime++ |
| 23:10 | Genji | lunchtime++ |
| 23:10 | * pie | goes too |
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