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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:00 | rhcl_home | No, that's the address you put in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 00:01 | your /etc/resolv.conf file should contain a line something like this: | |
| 00:01 | nameserver 150.199.1.29 | |
| 00:01 | You can have multiple nameservers in this file, one after another in the format above | |
| 00:02 | If you use a shell tool and >cat /etc/resolv.conf, do you see one or more lines like that? | |
| 00:11 | chris | any luck nengard ? |
| 00:12 | nengard | no!!! - reading what rhc1 is saying |
| 00:12 | and telling bri to check on his machine | |
| 00:12 | scared to use something like opendns cause i don't want to mess with settings on my machine now that i have everything up and running | |
| 00:12 | but my mac doesn't know what my name server is either | |
| 00:12 | chris | opendns is safe |
| 00:13 | nengard | wonder if i restart - which i haven't done yet today - if it will find them |
| 00:13 | rhcl_home | Nothing to editing the file and changing it to something else. |
| 00:13 | nengard | safe - meaning it won't screw up my connections at all |
| 00:13 | okay - i'll try that then | |
| 00:13 | chris | nope, |
| 00:13 | all it does is tell it what to use as a nameserver | |
| 00:13 | nengard | right now the file has 4 lines |
| 00:13 | one for domain | |
| 00:13 | one for search | |
| 00:14 | and 2 for IPs | |
| 00:14 | do i just delete the 4 and replace it with the 2 IPs? | |
| 00:14 | chris | just replace the 2 ip ones |
| 00:14 | rhcl_home | well, you need at least one line like I posted above for DNS |
| 00:14 | chris | nameserver 208.67.222.222 |
| 00:14 | and nameserver | |
| 00:15 | sorry | |
| 00:15 | nameserver 208.67.220.220 | |
| 00:17 | rhcl_home | I have a homebrew firewall running Smoothwall that won't pick up my ISP's DNS for some reason--I have to manually enter it. |
| 00:17 | nengard | thanks guys - that worked |
| 00:17 | rhcl_home | good good |
| 00:18 | nengard | sorry so frustrated - still sick and little things bug me now |
| 00:18 | chris | no worries |
| 00:19 | rhcl_home | My tech assistant called in today and said his two sons have tentatively been diagnosed with H1N1. |
| 00:19 | chris | crappy |
| 00:20 | my son actually had scarlet fever .. can you believe that? i couldnt, i didnt think it was even around anymore | |
| 00:20 | but apparently thats indeed what he had | |
| 00:20 | rhcl_home | Gee, I haven't heard of anybody having that in years. |
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| 00:20 | chris | yeah exactly |
| 00:21 | turns out its pretty darn harmless these days | |
| 00:21 | rhcl_home | really? Probably better drugs to treat it. |
| 00:21 | chris | yeah, ever since pencillin was discovered it became easily treatable |
| 00:23 | fever, sore throat and a rash | |
| 00:23 | = cranky kid | |
| 00:23 | rhcl_home | for sure |
| 00:25 | chris | are they still quarantining for H1N1 over there? |
| 00:26 | rhcl_home | Oh no. Not sure they ever did actually. No, it's fairly common and everybody just regards it as a variant of seasonal flu. |
| 00:27 | chris | cool, for a while here they tried to contain it |
| 00:27 | which was a pita | |
| 00:27 | rhcl_home | Yea, but the genie got out of the bottle. |
| 00:28 | chris | yep |
| 00:31 | ohh koha.ils that would be sweet | |
| 00:32 | rhcl_home | Yea, would be cool. |
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| 04:00 | chris | hi Mehwish |
| 04:14 | Mehwish | Hi |
| 04:15 | I have a problem with my Koha Installation | |
| 04:15 | can anybody help me to solve that I am hange since months.. | |
| 04:15 | I am new to Linux and Koha | |
| 04:21 | Is thee any one who can solve my problem? | |
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| 04:25 | Mehwish | I have problem in adding Item after I save Biblio.. Can anybody help me?? |
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| 04:29 | Mehwish | hello all.. |
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| 04:41 | Mehwish | can any one help me to solve my problem regarding Koha? I am new to Koha and Linux.. |
| 04:42 | chris | what is the problem? |
| 04:42 | Mehwish | thanks for reply |
| 04:43 | when I enter Biblio record and hit the save button | |
| 04:43 | I am redirected to add item page | |
| 04:43 | but when i enter all fields for that and press the button i get error.. | |
| 04:44 | Can't call method "append_fields" on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92. | |
| 04:44 | this is the error.. | |
| 04:44 | chris | what version of koha is it? |
| 04:45 | Mehwish | 3.2 |
| 04:45 | chris | 3.0.2 ? |
| 04:45 | (3.2.0 hasnt been released yet0 | |
| 04:45 | Mehwish | yes I am really a new one to Koha |
| 04:45 | it is 3.00.02 | |
| 04:45 | chris | cool |
| 04:46 | ok, if you look in the tarball you explanded, in the misc directory | |
| 04:46 | there is a file sax_parser_print.pl | |
| 04:47 | if you do ./sax_parser_print.pl what does it say? | |
| 04:47 | Mehwish | ok i have seen the file.. |
| 04:48 | Koha wants something like: XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser=HASH(0x81fe220) You have: XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser=HASH(0x82091e8) Looks good. | |
| 04:48 | i got this message.. | |
| 04:49 | yesterday someone told me to change few things in this file.. I mean in ParserDetails.ini | |
| 04:50 | first I was getting error then I got this message "with text Looks Good" | |
| 04:50 | but the problem is at its place.. | |
| 04:50 | chris | right, ok, i will have a look and see if i can find the answer |
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| 04:51 | Mehwish | OK |
| 04:51 | chris | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]ugust/019916.html |
| 04:52 | so you have a couple of choices | |
| 04:52 | you can grab that file and apply the patch locally, or you can get | |
| 04:52 | http://koha-fr.org/content/dif[…]-koha-version-304 | |
| 04:52 | 3.0.4 | |
| 04:52 | and upgrade to that | |
| 04:53 | (the link is at the bottom of the page) | |
| 04:53 | Mehwish | OK but plz tell me a few things.. |
| 04:53 | chris | as it has been fixed now |
| 04:54 | Mehwish | Shall I download new tarball 3.04 and follow all the installation steps that are after this step from my installation guide.. |
| 04:55 | chris | there should be on that tells you how to upgrade |
| 04:57 | Mehwish | OK Thanks a lot.. I am trying now. |
| 04:57 | chris | good luck :) |
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| 06:19 | Ropuch | Morning, #koha |
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| 06:27 | chris | hi Ropuch |
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| 06:49 | chris | heya brendan, get some sleep dude :) |
| 06:49 | brendan | :) |
| 06:51 | chris | glad to hear that apart from the crazy airline dramas things went well |
| 06:54 | brendan | yeah it was fun -- take me a day or two to but it all together |
| 06:55 | recover some sleep | |
| 06:55 | how's you weekend going? | |
| 06:55 | chris | pretty good, long weekend, labour day on monday |
| 06:55 | brendan | Yes that's right |
| 06:56 | chris | and tomorrow kahurangi and i are going to watch the soccer |
| 06:56 | brendan | excellent and enjoy |
| 06:56 | maybe I'll catch you sometime later | |
| 06:56 | ZZZZZzzzzzzzz! | |
| 06:56 | chris | sleep well |
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| 09:08 | fredericd | chris: Just read your 3.4 targets as RM: very impressive and valuable! |
| 09:10 | chris | thank you fredericd |
| 09:12 | fredericd | Does translation manager represent a lot of work? |
| 09:12 | (reading roles for 3.4 wiki page) | |
| 09:13 | chris | i spent usually 8 or so hours a week on it |
| 09:14 | most of that is answering emails | |
| 09:14 | setting up users, etc | |
| 09:16 | it is quite fun, you get to talk to people all around the world | |
| 09:16 | with the work with template::toolkit it should make translation easier | |
| 09:17 | fredericd | Yes, I can imagine (fun part). |
| 09:17 | The Pootle machinery is on your server? | |
| 09:17 | It would have to be shifted on new translation manager server? | |
| 09:18 | chris | potentially, or i could give the person ssh access to my machine, whatever they prefered |
| 09:18 | the nice thing with pootle is there is no db | |
| 09:18 | you just have to apt-get install pootle | |
| 09:18 | and then copy /var/lib/pootle | |
| 09:19 | fredericd | I will have to deal with Arabic installations. Do you think it is the moment to improve Koha translability and multilingual support? |
| 09:19 | could be a separated task... | |
| 09:20 | I mean: how zebra deals with no-latin alphabet, db text translation, etc. | |
| 09:21 | chris | yes that would be a great thing to do |
| 09:21 | fredericd | Something else I was thinking about reading your RM proposal: template::toolkit, DB abstraction, caching => why not trying to use Catalyst framework? |
| 09:22 | Everything is already done, tested, and documented | |
| 09:22 | chris | we can add catalyst in after, the reason not to do it first, as that any one of those other things can be done stand alone, and incrementally |
| 09:23 | fredericd | And Moose integration would ease draticaly code readibility and reusability... |
| 09:23 | yes I understand Koha has huge code base which can't be changed at once | |
| 09:24 | chris | yep |
| 09:24 | but if we get db abstraction in there, and then tt | |
| 09:24 | we pick modules to use a framework on ... moose is too slow to use without mod_perl2 | |
| 09:25 | so we would have to make sure it was safe first | |
| 09:25 | fredericd | or fastcgi: it is recommanded by Catalyst framework, even if mod_perl is supported |
| 09:26 | chris | i think if we aimed for catalyst or moose, we wouldnt get there, but if we pick small targets |
| 09:26 | and work towards the bigger one | |
| 09:32 | fredericd | If moose were at disposal in 3.4, and an application-level cache, it would be possible to simplify a lot how koha deal with its various configurations files/parameters |
| 09:32 | chris | yep, but it is way too much work to get moose into 3.4 |
| 09:32 | fredericd | system preference one level parameters reach it limits and slow down new functionnalities developments |
| 09:32 | it needs fundings... | |
| 09:32 | chris | but if we can get db abstraction and tt in |
| 09:33 | then we are on the way | |
| 09:33 | fredericd | ok. |
| 09:33 | chris | and 3.6 could be moose |
| 09:33 | fredericd | could you send me your /var/lib/pootle files? |
| 09:34 | I would like to take a look and get the picture | |
| 09:34 | chris | its pretty big |
| 09:34 | its just the .po files | |
| 09:34 | fredericd | a git clone? |
| 09:36 | pastebot | "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "22:35 /var/lib/pootle $ ls -l" (8 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/30 |
| 09:36 | chris | thats what a sample directory looks like |
| 09:36 | and the .po files are in git | |
| 09:37 | fredericd | Ok. I will test this way, by copying HEAD .po files. Thanks. |
| 09:37 | chris | cool |
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| 14:25 | Ropuch | Good afternoon |
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| 17:43 | * chris_n2 | digs out from under a pile of email |
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| 18:30 | chris | colins proposal looks pretty good |
| 18:30 | im just really happy someone is crazy enough to want to do QA :) | |
| 18:31 | Ropuch | Hi chris [; |
| 18:33 | I've just managed to get local covers and Amazon/Google ones working at the same time | |
| 18:33 | chris | ohhh well done :) |
| 18:33 | Ropuch | Now I'm looking for someone who can point what can be done better ;> |
| 18:33 | http://bagno.be/localcovers.html | |
| 18:34 | I'm more than sure some steps are unnecessary | |
| 18:34 | chris | ohh a right up, thats neat :) |
| 18:36 | Ropuch | It has been bothering me for some time |
| 18:37 | chris | i think one change would be to make the path to the images be a variable too |
| 18:37 | Ropuch | I was considering this |
| 18:37 | chris_n2 | Ropuch: I'd suggest adding line numbers to your code excerpts |
| 18:37 | chris | and then the next extension would be to make that be able to be a url |
| 18:37 | Ropuch | But it's too much thinking for today |
| 18:37 | chris_n2 | nice tutorial |
| 18:37 | chris | *nod* |
| 18:37 | it's a very very good start | |
| 18:37 | well done | |
| 18:38 | Ropuch | My no-perl-jutsu has improved a lot today ;> |
| 18:38 | chris | :) |
| 18:39 | Ropuch | It have other limitationa atm; only jpg files, but this can be done easily |
| 18:39 | Next step is uploading cover images during cataloguing | |
| 18:40 | But getting isbn from addbiblio is a bit hard to me | |
| 18:40 | chris | *nod* |
| 18:52 | brendan | Just going through and reading the proposal form Collin now |
| 18:54 | chris | cool |
| 19:10 | i wonder if hdl has been given back access to download.koha.org yet | |
| 19:10 | i see that that the fixed tarball is there, so it looks promising | |
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| 19:15 | chris | hi nelsonf |
| 19:17 | nelsonf | Hi Chris |
| 19:18 | I'm trying to get the e-mail functionality going re circulation / books due and overdue | |
| 19:18 | We're using OpenSUSE and I believe I need to get postfix running? | |
| 19:19 | chris | well you will need some kind of mta running |
| 19:19 | postfix is certainly one option, or you could use exim4 ... whatever you are comfortable with | |
| 19:20 | nelsonf | this sort of thing is way out of my league, but I'm willing to make an attempt to get it going |
| 19:21 | do we need an isp to allow for outgoing emails? | |
| 19:21 | chris | well the machine needs to be able to send emails succesfully |
| 19:21 | you can test it by running | |
| 19:22 | mailx -s "test email" youremail.address |
|
| 19:22 | type some message | |
| 19:22 | then hit ctrl-d | |
| 19:22 | and it will try to send email, if you get it, all good | |
| 19:23 | so the computer will need to have a connection to the internet | |
| 19:23 | nelsonf | I'll try this from the command line using PuTTY, right? |
| 19:25 | chris | *nod* |
| 19:25 | you can then look in /var/log at the mail.log file (if you are running postfix) | |
| 19:26 | or /var/log/exim4/mainlog if you are running exim4 | |
| 19:26 | to see what happened to the message | |
| 19:28 | nelsonf | The other day I think I determined that postfix is not installed, because no postfix folders |
| 19:28 | Let me look for exim4 now, using WinSCP | |
| 19:30 | chris | it probably isnt either, you will need to install one of them |
| 19:30 | nelsonf | I see var/log/exim/main.log |
| 19:31 | I tried to run the mailx command you mentioned, and received an error | |
| 19:31 | -bash: mailx: command not found | |
| 19:32 | chris | yep sure looks like no mailer set up |
| 19:32 | nelsonf | I've hesitated to configure the mailer, don't want to mess up the koha installation |
| 19:33 | we're not live yet, but actively testing | |
| 19:33 | question about the big picture | |
| 19:33 | once the mailer is set up, is this all that is needed for Koha to be able to send out those notifications? | |
| 19:33 | or are there additional steps? | |
| 19:36 | chris | you need to set up some cron jobs |
| 19:37 | take a look at misc/cronjobs/crontab.example | |
| 19:37 | (i think thats the file name, something like that) | |
| 19:37 | nelsonf | I understand from reading the Koha documentation that these cronjobs |
| 19:38 | run nightly. Will the e-mails be able to go directly from our Koha/OpenSUSE box to the recipients, | |
| 19:38 | or does an ISP need to be involved? | |
| 19:39 | chris | is the koha box connected to the internet? |
| 19:39 | nelsonf | yes |
| 19:39 | chris | then that should be fine |
| 19:39 | nelsonf | most excellent |
| 19:39 | chris | the test would be, can you send a mail from it to something like a gmail account, if so, then koha will have no problems |
| 19:40 | nelsonf | so one way to skin this cat would be |
| 19:40 | to look for a step by step documentation on how to install postfix or exim4 | |
| 19:41 | what about additional security concerns if we start running outgoing email? | |
| 19:42 | ie is the Koha installation more susceptible to hackers if we have a mailer running? | |
| 19:43 | chris | nope, what i would do is make it set up to not accept incoming connections |
| 19:43 | but only be able to send out | |
| 19:43 | as long as you have the from address of the emails be a valid address (so that bounces can go to it) | |
| 19:44 | there is no reason for the koha box to be able to accept mail | |
| 19:45 | nelsonf | another conceptual question... |
| 19:46 | we have multiple organizations on this single Koha installation | |
| 19:46 | chris | right |
| 19:46 | nelsonf | so, the From address might best be set up according to the org for a specific patron |
| 19:47 | i.e. need for multiple From addresses | |
| 19:47 | chris | hmm not sure if koha can handle that just yet |
| 19:47 | nelsonf | our circulation is very limited, so sending all bounces to both orgs would not be the worst thing |
| 19:49 | chris | just as long as someone gets them bouncing bounces is about the worst thing :) |
| 19:49 | ok time to take my son out to play in the sun | |
| 19:49 | good luck | |
| 19:49 | nelsonf | Is the From address by default the KohaAdminEmailAddress in System preferences of the GUI? |
| 19:51 | thanks very much chris! have fun in the sun with your son | |
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| 20:04 | nelsonf_ | exit |
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| 21:35 | nelsonf | test, using trillian freeware |
| 21:36 | test again | |
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