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| 00:01 | ricardo | Hi brendan ! |
| 00:02 | brendan | hey ricardo |
| 00:32 | pastebot | "ricardo" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Differences betwen "en" auth.tmpl and "pt-PT" auth.tmpl" (51 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/14 |
| 00:33 | ricardo | s/betwen/between |
| 00:35 | chris | interesting |
| 00:35 | it does it for the password too | |
| 00:35 | ie its not just username .. its any input on that form | |
| 00:37 | for now id just // out that line in the js | |
| 00:38 | and get someone who knows more css and js to look at what is wrong with it | |
| 00:39 | ricardo | OK. Thank you very much for the help, chris! :) |
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| 00:45 | ricardo | chris: Thanks again... I really have to go to bed now. See you tomorrow |
| 00:46 | chris | sleep well |
| 00:46 | ricardo | chris: Thanks! :) Bye |
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| 01:07 | Genjimoto | .mrc = marc file? How do i import a marc file? |
| 01:13 | mason | tools -> 'Stage MARC records into the reservoir.' |
| 01:14 | or bulkmarcimport.pl - from the cmdline | |
| 01:14 | Genjimoto | And then I import the biblioitems dump into mysql? |
| 01:16 | mason | hmm, nope |
| 01:17 | your imported marc records create data in the bib, bibitems and items tables | |
| 01:17 | Genjimoto | well.. ive got a small mrc file, small kohadb file, and a big biblioitems file |
| 01:19 | ModifiedFahd.mrc is 7 mb. biblioitems.sql is 70 mb. | |
| 01:19 | mason | your bibitems table is not much use without a bib table |
| 01:19 | Genjimoto | bib table in koha.db |
| 01:19 | mason | pass.... |
| 01:19 | Genjimoto | I think ModifiedFahd.mrc is a marc spec file? |
| 01:20 | mason | you are upgrading a 2.2 koha , i assume? |
| 01:20 | pass? | |
| 01:20 | Genjimoto | Nope. Setting up 3.00.00.094 modified, to do work for a client. |
| 01:20 | mason | use marcdump to inspect it... |
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| 01:21 | Genjimoto | Hmm... three chrises? |
| 01:21 | mason | so, youve got bibitem data in there *somehow* |
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| 01:22 | mason | the best option for you is to write some scripts to create new marc files |
| 01:22 | Genjimoto | I assume its by mysql < bibitem.sql |
| 01:23 | mason | thats just not going to work ;) |
| 01:24 | build new marc files based on whatever bib data you have access to | |
| 01:24 | Genjimoto | hmm? import marc data, mysql < koha.sql, mysql <kohabiblioitems.sql |
| 01:24 | Ah. | |
| 01:24 | mason | then load it in using ui or shell marc-import tools |
| 01:24 | nope | |
| 01:25 | chris_n2 | Gengimoto: chris's tend to increase exponentially around here ;-) |
| 01:25 | mason | the only way to get sane bibitem data, it to import it via marc-tools |
| 01:25 | chris_n2 | Genjimoto also |
| 01:26 | mason | so focus on that... , else you will get stuck |
| 01:26 | Genjimoto | Can't remember if i was known here as Genji or Genjimoto, many years ago. |
| 01:26 | huh... looking in koha.sql, I find Marc data. | |
| 01:27 | mason | for some sample bibs? perhaps....... |
| 01:28 | google some example marc21 records, and import them correctly | |
| 01:28 | Genjimoto | Seems this is a complete db dump |
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| 01:29 | Genjimoto | Think I have it. ModifiedFahd was a sample file I think, or a limited export. kohadb.sql and biblioitems.sql are two parts of a complete dump |
| 01:29 | mason | then you can experiment with importing your marc records |
| 01:29 | cool | |
| 01:30 | its also important to know what your client data is | |
| 01:31 | Genjimoto | Unfortunately, all the data is in arabic |
| 01:32 | mason | wow |
| 01:33 | on that note, i gotta switch back to some work too... | |
| 01:33 | start with some easy example marc21 bibs, to import.... | |
| 01:34 | so you get a feel for how its supposed to work, before you start on the arabic bibs | |
| 01:37 | richard | bob u about? |
| 01:38 | heh wrong # | |
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| 03:33 | Amit | hi chris, brendan |
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| 04:57 | Amit | hi kmkale |
| 04:57 | kmkale | hi |
| 04:57 | h r u? | |
| 04:58 | Amit | i m fine |
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| 05:51 | Ropuch | Good morning |
| 05:53 | Amit | hi Ropuch |
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| 06:25 | Genjimoto | hiya all.. Okay, how do i import a modified marc definition? |
| 06:29 | Another question is, how do i do a rebuild of zebra db? | |
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| 06:39 | Ropuch | Genjimoto: /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -v |
| 06:39 | This would rebuild biblios & authority index with verbose mode | |
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| 07:18 | Genjimoto | thankyou. excellent. now i just need to figure out hte definition. or does the definition only relate to entering in data, not to display? |
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| 08:01 | Ropuch | Genjimoto: hte definiotion? |
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| 08:43 | Genjimoto | Marc definition. this devel im working from, seems to use a modified marc. |
| 08:44 | called "ModifiedFahd.mrc" | |
| 08:44 | Of course, its all in arabic, so im not sure what it is. | |
| 08:53 | Ropuch | ;> |
| 08:53 | I', afraid I can't help you with that | |
| 08:58 | Amit | @wunder Bangalore, India |
| 08:58 | munin` | Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 24.0�C (11:30 AM IST on October 05, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. |
| 08:58 | Amit | @wunder New Delhi |
| 08:58 | munin` | Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 28.0�C (2:00 PM IST on October 05, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:59 | Genjimoto | @wunder Palmerston North |
| 08:59 | munin` | Genjimoto: The current temperature in Palmerston North Aws, New Zealand is 7.0�C (7:00 PM NZDT on October 05, 2009). Conditions: . Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:59 | Genjimoto | Yup. Cold. Thats me. |
| 09:00 | Amit | hi Genjimoto |
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| 09:07 | Rawad | can anybody help me? |
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| 09:12 | Rawad | am running Koha on ubuntu server; am just looking for how to import the library of congress to my server? is there anyway to import the data one time? |
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| 09:16 | Ropuch | Rawad: Acquisition>New MARC Record>Z39.50 Search |
| 09:16 | But this way you must import records one-by-one | |
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| 09:19 | CGI878 | hi |
| 09:19 | is there ny way... if i want to get the *total number* of items of our library/database? | |
| 09:22 | Ropuch | I think you can do this with Reports |
| 09:24 | catalog or aquisition statistics | |
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| 11:13 | greenmang0 | @wunder mumbai |
| 11:13 | munin` | greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 27.0�C (4:10 PM IST on October 05, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 27.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling). |
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| 11:57 | chris_n | g'morning |
| 11:58 | @wunder 28334 | |
| 11:58 | munin` | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 15.0�C (7:40 AM EDT on October 05, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:59 | jwagner | good morning |
| 11:59 | jdavidb | Mornin', chris_n |
| 12:00 | paul_p2 | good morning usa |
| 12:00 | jwagner | Bonjour France |
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| 12:01 | jdavidb | Hello, paul_p. :) |
| 12:01 | paul_p | seems that thd-away has decided to be the 'wiki-man of the year...' |
| 12:02 | chris_n | thd++ #for wiki improvements |
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| 12:02 | jdavidb | thd++ |
| 12:03 | He's an incredibly detail-oriented person; wish I had that much skill and commitment. | |
| 12:03 | kmkale | hi all |
| 12:04 | jdavidb | Howdy, kmkale |
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| 12:21 | CGI382 | I am using windows xp and i instal apache_2.211,mysql-essential-4.1.22,activeperl5.8.806and koha2.29w32 and i run the program I am a librarian and wants koha to register library material and lending system but my problem is when i start to test the software by entering data the option it has is only MARC format what i need is only formats like Title Authur, publication date etc what shall i do? |
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| 12:32 | nengard | morning Nate |
| 12:32 | Nate | hey nengard |
| 12:32 | i mean nicole | |
| 12:32 | still rubbing the morning out of my eyes | |
| 12:33 | Amit | hi nengard, Nate |
| 12:33 | Nate | mornin Amit |
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| 12:58 | kmkale | hey guys I need a bit of help |
| 12:58 | I am trying to intregrate google transliteration with koha opac search box | |
| 12:58 | I have it working with Firefox at www.granthalaya.org | |
| 12:59 | but in IE I dont get the language selection box. The transliteration still works but now box. I cant make out anything from the error message displayed either. what could it be? | |
| 13:06 | If I use the same google transliteration code in a simple htmlpage in IE it works. So I am doubly puzzled so as to where to look for the problem | |
| 13:07 | can someone please have a look at the site in both IE and Firefox and suggest something? | |
| 13:11 | jdavidb | kmkale, I'm looking, but I'd be at a loss to suggest anything much. That's a very clever idea, though! I really avoid IE as much as I can manage to, and wouldn't know where to begin integrating this trick in there. |
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| 13:14 | kmkale1 | back |
| 13:16 | nengard | okay - time to log off and teach a workshop - be back later |
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| 13:37 | schuster | @owen |
| 13:37 | munin` | schuster: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 13:37 | schuster | owen about? |
| 13:37 | jdavidb | @seen owen |
| 13:37 | munin` | jdavidb: owen was last seen in #koha 3 days, 17 hours, 50 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <owen> chris: I'd be happy to receive anniversary congratulations on April 10th *and* Oct. 4th :) |
| 13:39 | schuster | OH DRAT. I've figured out a way to get say the acqdate = "2009-08%" and mc-ccode=FIC in pac for a specific branch and was thinking about using something similar to that with his "new books" tool but without the seperate sql. |
| 13:40 | sql database that is. | |
| 13:40 | Brain blip this morning had a breakthrough now I'm probably cooked for the rest of the week. | |
| 13:40 | jdavidb | heh. Had your moment of brilliance, and now it's used up? |
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| 13:41 | schuster | pretty much..;( |
| 13:42 | jdavidb | I had my one-for-the-month last week, so it's gonna be a long October, I think. |
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| 14:12 | kmkale1 | good night all |
| 14:12 | quit | |
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| 14:17 | CGI382 | is there anyone who can help me i alreday post my question earlier |
| 14:23 | I am using windows xp and i instal apache_2.211,mysql-essential-4.1.22,activeperl5.8.806and koha2.29w32 and i run the program I am a librarian and wants koha to register library material and lending system but my problem is when i start to test the software by entering data the option it has is only MARC format what i need is only formats like Title Authur, publication date etc what shall i do? | |
| 14:23 | jdavidb | 382, Koha is pretty well married to either MARC21 or UNIMARC format; dumbing it back down to just do minimal title-author sorts of cataloging would be fairly hairy work. |
| 14:24 | You could use the fast-add framework that is in a fairly-recent version, maybe, to not have quite so many options open in the MARC form, but it's still MARC. | |
| 14:26 | chris_n | CGI382: Koha 2.2 is quite outdated; you'd be better served by running Koha on debian or ubuntu or even a vbox on windows |
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| 14:45 | CGI382 | is there new version of koha for windows |
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| 15:05 | ricardo | Hi all |
| 15:06 | nahuel | CGI382, for what ? |
| 15:06 | :p | |
| 15:07 | Nate | Hiya everyone! |
| 15:08 | ricardo | Hi nahuel! |
| 15:08 | Hi Nate | |
| 15:08 | Nate | Does anyone know if Koha will support SAML 2.0 for a single sign on function? |
| 15:08 | nahuel | hi ricardo |
| 15:11 | CGI382 | for library system i am using windows xp |
| 15:13 | I download koha 2.29 and run on my pc but it works only for MARC format, i need to enter biblographic data like authur,title publication date directly to the data base how can I do that? | |
| 15:14 | ricardo | Nate: There's a patch from August for "CAS SSO" and some discussion regarding SSO (on July). I don't know anything besides that: |
| 15:15 | Nate | thanks ricardo |
| 15:15 | ricardo | [Koha-patches] [PATCH] A first, quick and dirty try to use CAS SSO solution with Koha, but it work and seems to be harmless for non cas users. |
| 15:15 | http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ugust/004164.html | |
| 15:17 | CGI382: If you want to load a batch of bibliographic records, use "bulkmarcimport". If you want to load records one-by-one you REALLY should use the MARC Bibliographic Framework. You may customize that framework for your Library, in the Web "Intranet / Staff" interface of Koha, that usually runs on port 8080 | |
| 15:20 | CGI382 | I never use MARC format to enter data so I just confused, I want to enter data one by one |
| 15:21 | ricardo | nahuel: Do you touch the Template / HTML / JavaScript parts? There's a weird bug that's triggered with the updated Portuguese translation, in the Intranet login page |
| 15:23 | nahuel: Basically, it's the 1st function of koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/pt-PT/js/staff-global.js that gets called and causes a redirect to http://koha:8080/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl | |
| 15:25 | nahuel: gets called via the "location.href" that's at the end of the first function of that "staff-global.js" file | |
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| 15:27 | ricardo | CGI382: Sorry, but I can't help you there... I always use Koha with MARC frameworks |
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| 15:46 | chris | paul_p: is hdl around today? |
| 15:46 | CGI382 | ok thanks |
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| 15:46 | paul_p | hi chris. |
| 15:47 | nope, he's in Lyon, will be back tomorrow (french) morning | |
| 15:50 | chris | ahhh ok, i just notice there are some messages in the koha-commit and koha-patches mailing list archives ... that i didnt get mail for (in 2 accounts) so might be something going on there |
| 15:50 | ricardo | Hi chris, hi Paul! :) |
| 15:52 | chris: Isn't now near 5 AM there in New Zealand?! | |
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| 15:55 | paul_p | cbris: our clamav had some problems this week end. More than 11 000 must be managed. our server works on them since 9 hours now, and still not finished |
| 15:56 | ricardo | paul_p: OK, thanks for the explanation |
| 15:56 | paul_p | nothing lost, but just the server being slow to deal with everything... |
| 15:56 | ricardo | Right |
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| 16:00 | wizzyrea | man I hate it when my mail server freaks out. My most sincere condolences :( |
| 16:03 | chris | paul_p: cool, just thought id check :) |
| 16:03 | ricardo: yep stormy night, woke up my son ... he is back asleep but now im wide awake | |
| 16:03 | paul_p | wizzyrea: the mail server is fine. He was just waiting for clamav antivirus checking, that was down. |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea | Ahh... mine does both on the same box, so I consider that a freakout :) |
| 16:04 | ricardo | chris: A good glass of hot milk with sugar may solve that insomnia problem :) |
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| 16:07 | ks_jee | Hi JoeTho |
| 16:07 | joetho | ks_jee is a staff member at our newest lib, going live tomorrow |
| 16:07 | chris | cool |
| 16:07 | ks_jee | :) |
| 16:07 | wizzyrea | oh hi! |
| 16:07 | joetho | and she asks me about perl and mysql. It's a good day! |
| 16:08 | ks_jee | I am looking forward to digging into code. |
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| 16:08 | * nengard | off to lunch |
| 16:09 | joetho | http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=kohakansas |
| 16:10 | chris | ks_jee: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]lopment:git_usage |
| 16:10 | joetho | that's the url for Kansas users |
| 16:10 | brendan | morning all |
| 16:12 | schuster | joetho - are you self hosted? I didn't think as an asp you could do much digging. |
| 16:16 | * chris | deletes about 17 replies to that |
| 16:17 | ricardo | chris: "chrisdeletes about 17 replies to that". Huh? |
| 16:19 | chris | ricardo: i cant write about how wrong it is that schuster needs to ask that, without getting angry |
| 16:20 | schuster | Sorry... |
| 16:21 | I'm looking at the listserv and there is discussion of CAS SSO and a patch - has this been integrated into 3.2? there isn't a bug for it. | |
| 16:21 | Aug 7, 2009. | |
| 16:21 | paul_p | schuster: for CASS SSO, you should ask matts (but he's away now) |
| 16:21 | he did it for BibLibre | |
| 16:21 | schuster | OK thanks |
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| 16:22 | schuster | I'm in the process of getting LDAP setup and we have had mucho problems with SSO around the district so don't even want to go there at this time, but wanted to explore my future options. |
| 16:34 | joetho | schuster - not self hosted, and you are correct. ks_jee is seeing this for the first time. Give her a week to set up her own koha somewhere |
| 16:34 | oh let's give her ten days | |
| 16:34 | she is buzzed! | |
| 16:35 | ricardo | http://www.urbandictionary.com[…]e.php?term=buzzed |
| 16:35 | "Means that you have begun the process of entering an alcoholic beverage into your system. You are now ready to begin step two: drowning yourself in booze. " | |
| 16:35 | joetho: If you say so... ;-) | |
| 16:35 | wizzyrea | he probably means she's excited |
| 16:35 | :) | |
| 16:35 | ricardo | wizzyrea: eheh |
| 16:37 | schuster: I think Pascal Levy's patch hasn't been pushed to koha.org Master branch... at least my searches return no results | |
| 16:37 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]t=author&s=Pascal | |
| 16:37 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]t=author&s=pascal | |
| 16:37 | * jdavidb | would prefer to be buzzed, by ricardo's definition, about now. |
| 16:37 | ricardo | jdavidb: LOL! |
| 16:38 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]l%40black-ink.net | |
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| 16:39 | ks_jee | sorry for the lack of witty responses. I also have to learn to handle the holds queue. |
| 16:40 | I do have my own host. and will get busy getting an install in place. | |
| 16:40 | ricardo | ks_jee: "sorry for the lack of witty responses". Hey! That's mighty witty! ;-) |
| 16:40 | ks_jee | being buzzed may help on the install! :) |
| 16:41 | ricardo | ks_jee: eheh... true |
| 16:41 | err... I'm obviously NOT speaking from experience, of course (I have to remember this channel is logged...) | |
| 16:42 | ;-) | |
| 16:43 | jdavidb | I suggest two shots of Jack Daniel before tinkering with XSLT. It won't help you hack XSLT any better, but it will numb you to the pain of it. |
| 16:44 | ks_jee | I will keep that in mind. |
| 16:45 | Do you suggest maybe a sub-domain for a dev environment or just a git checkout | |
| 16:46 | jdavidb | I never do anything but git installs. then you can switch branches around at will. |
| 16:46 | (dev install, in the script) | |
| 16:47 | ks_jee | k, my experience so far is SVN and CVS, so yay, time to learn a new flavor. |
| 16:47 | ricardo | ks_jee: : I have subdomains with different Koha databases for 2 different git branches (one based on Koha 3.0.X and other based on Koha head). This is NOT an "official" recommendation or anything, it's just my setup |
| 16:47 | jdavidb | Git is nice. Doing a dev install will preserve the whole structure of the repo, so you can pull in fresh stuff, swap branches, all that, on the fly. |
| 16:47 | ks_jee | cool |
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| 16:51 | jdavidb | wb, jwagner. |
| 16:51 | jwagner | Just checking in before I take a nap.... |
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| 16:52 | ks_jee | So, how do I access the logs for this chat? |
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| 16:54 | ricardo | ks_jee: http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/today |
| 16:54 | nengard | http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/today\ |
| 16:54 | oops - ricardo beat me to it | |
| 16:55 | ricardo | nengard: :P |
| 16:55 | ks_jee | thank you both! |
| 16:55 | ricardo | eheh |
| 16:55 | ks_jee: You're welcome :) | |
| 16:55 | collum | ks_jee: Someone mentioned "Pragmatic Version Control using Git" (http://tinyurl.com/ycsw5t5) on iRC a couple of weeks ago. |
| 16:55 | ks_jee: I'm working my way through it now. It's very good. | |
| 16:55 | ks_jee | the pragmatic books are usually very good |
| 16:56 | ricardo | collum: There's also "Pro Git" by Scott Chacon, published by APress, that's freely available online: |
| 16:56 | http://progit.org/book/ | |
| 16:57 | collum | ricardo: Excellent. I have bookmarked it in delicious. |
| 16:57 | ricardo | collum: :) |
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| 17:02 | ks_jee | Thank you all for the welcome but I have too log off and upgrade the browser on this dinosaur. See you soon! :) |
| 17:02 | too = to | |
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| 17:03 | jdavidb | See ya, ks_jee! :) |
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| 17:04 | * jdavidb | hands wizzyrea a seatbelt. |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | O.o I need this? |
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| 17:04 | jdavidb | Apparently so, looking at the log: |
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| 17:05 | wizzyrea | it's ok. You know how you were having brain moments this morning? |
| 17:05 | that's what I'm up against at the moment (my brain, not yours) | |
| 17:05 | jdavidb | heh. |
| 17:05 | nengard | wizzyrea can you pass heather a note that says - please respond to nicole's questionnaire before the end of the day?? :) |
| 17:05 | * jdavidb | cannot brain today; he has the dumb. |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | i'd just ping her on twitter, @hbraum |
| 17:06 | nengard | the dumb? is that a real condition? cause I've had it for ages then |
| 17:06 | * wizzyrea | approves of jdavidb |
| 17:06 | nengard | wizzyrea - looking for all ways of communication :) |
| 17:07 | jdavidb | I've been struggling with a goofy little problem--that I've solved before, I *know* it--all day, so far. Very annoying. |
| 17:10 | wizzyrea | nengard: fair enough ;) |
| 17:12 | nengard | thanks for the twitter tip - that worked :) |
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| 17:18 | wizzyrea | yep, figured it would |
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| 17:55 | schuster | nengard - I should have the keynote and the last development talk up today on the KohaCon Conference wiki. |
| 17:56 | nengard | awesome |
| 17:57 | schuster | Informally with whoever wants to chime in... What are the groups thoughts on another US Conference on Koha... I know we would all LOVE to attend NZ, but that might not happen. I don't want to take anything away from that, but some of us just won't be able to afford it. |
| 17:58 | jdavidb | schuster: yes, yes, yes. And you did such a good job with the last one, I'll nominate you for chairman-in-charge. |
| 17:59 | ricardo | schuster: Where's the "Kohacon Conference wiki"? Do you mean http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=kohacon2009 ? |
| 18:04 | schuster | That was April 2009 - there is discussion of a KohaCon10 in New Zeland - but many of the US libraries wanted to have a US annual conference to get together. |
| 18:06 | ricardo | schuster: OK, so I guess my question remains, then. What's the URL of the "KohaCon Conference wiki"? Or is it still a secret? :) |
| 18:06 | schuster | There isn't one yet... other than this - http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]n#why_new_zealand |
| 18:06 | ricardo | schuster: OK, thanks :) |
| 18:07 | schuster | I wanted to start a discussion about one in the US possibly - I'll start with the list serves maybe. |
| 18:08 | * jdavidb | pouts that no one seconded his nomination of schuster for chairman of the next con. |
| 18:08 | schuster | They don't want to see any more of my shirts! |
| 18:09 | jdavidb | Well, I *was* going to suggest a different garb for you, perhaps. But your Hawai'ian floweredy shirts weren't *that* bad. |
| 18:09 | nengard | i think if there is a US option then employers have a reason to say NO to NZ -- just my opinion |
| 18:09 | and i had no prob with the shirts :) | |
| 18:10 | ricardo | jdavidb: I'm > 5000 Kilometers away from the US and more than 10 000 kilometers away from NZ... It's not likely I'll make it to any of those places... Heck, I can't even guarantee that I'd make to "KohaCon Europe"... unless it was in Portugal, of course! :) |
| 18:12 | jdavidb | nengard has a point, although PTFS will quite possibly send someone to NZ--jwagner and I are getting ready for a cage match, if necessary, to decide who--and the US is a no-brainer for us; of course we'd be there. |
| 18:13 | * brendan | would love to go to NZ |
| 18:13 | brendan | still holding out hope :) |
| 18:13 | nengard | jdavidb i was thinking more library admins saying no to NZ |
| 18:14 | * jdavidb | nods. |
| 18:14 | ricardo | Got to go now... BBL, probably. Take care! |
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| 18:14 | schuster | Yep that's what I'm afraid of unless I take vacation and go on my own dime I don't see Plano ISD saying go ahead... |
| 18:15 | jdavidb | We could do like Open Repositories did...their first three conferences were all in cities that started with S: Sydney, San Antonio, Southampton... |
| 18:15 | schuster | K... hmmmm - Kansas City - |
| 18:16 | nengard | schuster - no - what i'm saying is if it's a choice between US and NZ admins will say - well you should go to the US one - and then no one from the US will be in NZ |
| 18:17 | schuster | I don't know how many Libraries will fund out of the country travel... So we skip a year? |
| 18:17 | I understand what you are saying nengard - I just hate to NOT do anything because I can't go to NZ. | |
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| 18:19 | CGI074 | hi all |
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| 18:54 | Ropuch | Yay, I've found 6 libraries using Koha in Poland |
| 18:55 | Unfortunately 5 of them are using some 2.x fork | |
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| 19:47 | chris | thats my fear also nengard |
| 19:50 | wow that was really harsh | |
| 19:51 | * chris | reads the replies |
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| 20:01 | cato | Hello All; I just restored a Koha database(from a sqldump) - I can see the item types, circulation codes, patrons...but not the books/items themselves ..any ideas? |
| 20:02 | brendan | cato -- you may need to run the zebra indexer again |
| 20:02 | Ropuch | Yup |
| 20:03 | cato | aww, let me try that. thanks! |
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| 20:09 | richard | hi |
| 20:10 | chris | hiya richard |
| 20:10 | richard | hey chris |
| 20:11 | jwagner | chris, question for you if you have a few minutes |
| 20:11 | chris | yep |
| 20:11 | * chris | is working on his LIANZA conference presentation today |
| 20:12 | cato | Hey Brendan, how do I run the zebra indexer? |
| 20:12 | jwagner | Remember the other day when I was trying to replace that Cart with Bookbag, and you suggested doing it as a translation? Can you point me to some basic (i.e., nursery school level) resource for creating a custom translation like that? |
| 20:13 | Logically it looks like it might be the way to go, but I know nothing at all about how Koha translations work. | |
| 20:13 | brendan | cato -- do you have it set up for zebra or nozebra |
| 20:13 | chris | ahh lemme show you |
| 20:14 | cato | its setup for Zebra |
| 20:14 | chris | jwagner: so we have http://translate.koha.org/en_NZ/ |
| 20:14 | brendan | ok you'll need to find your rebuild_zebra.pl script |
| 20:14 | then run that with the correct flags... | |
| 20:14 | chris | and http://translate.koha.org/en_USACADEMIC/ |
| 20:15 | Ropuch | cato: /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -v |
| 20:15 | brendan | one sec I think there is a FAQ somewhere that covers the zebra stuff |
| 20:15 | * brendan | going to look |
| 20:15 | chris | jwagner: i can set up another one for you |
| 20:15 | Ropuch | But you must PERL5LIB and KOHACONF exported |
| 20:15 | chris | then all you do, is translate the words you want to translate .. and leave the rest |
| 20:15 | jwagner | Can you? That would be great. |
| 20:15 | chris | what do you think a good name for it would be? |
| 20:16 | english US Public ? | |
| 20:16 | jwagner | Well, the purpose is local usage, so how about that as a name? en-local? |
| 20:16 | Ropuch | cato: after you reindex you need to start zebra with /usr/share/koha/bin/./koha-zebra-ctl.sh start (in case you're not doing this at system start) |
| 20:17 | chris | right in that case we wont use the translate site |
| 20:17 | ill make 2 po files for you, one for staff, one for opac | |
| 20:17 | cato | :Ropuch:Thank-you - let me try that |
| 20:17 | jwagner | But I'm not really clear on how it works. Is the idea that you just enter substitutes for the particular words/phrase, and put this file somewhere on the server? |
| 20:17 | chris | yeah you put the file in misc/translator/po |
| 20:18 | then in misc/translator you run | |
| 20:18 | install-code.pl en-local | |
| 20:18 | and it will create templates from it | |
| 20:18 | eg install-code.pl fr-CA | |
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| 20:19 | chris | will create the french canadian templates |
| 20:19 | jwagner | How does it cope with local customizations? We've made other screen changes, etc. |
| 20:19 | chris | to the templates? |
| 20:19 | if you have already changed the templates | |
| 20:20 | jwagner | Sometimes, yes. The Cart usage comes in from so many different places that I haven't tracked it all down, but I've added things to the masthead, etc. |
| 20:20 | chris | you may as well just edit the templates more |
| 20:20 | brendan | could you do a jquey here? |
| 20:20 | jwagner | Ah, well. I was afraid of that. |
| 20:21 | brendan, jquery is what I was trying to do. It worked fine for one instance of the wording, and failed for the other. They looked identical to me, so I couldn't figure out why. That's when Chris suggested trying a translation. | |
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| 20:21 | brendan | ah ok |
| 20:21 | ricardo | Back for a while |
| 20:21 | chris | yeah but if the templates have been edited anyway, you have to keep them up to date yourself ... so you may as well just edit them more |
| 20:21 | :) | |
| 20:21 | jwagner | The original goal was to call it a Bookbag instead of a Cart in the OPAC. |
| 20:22 | I was actually going to go back & see if I could take off some of the direct edits -- learn to do things with jquery, etc. I have a lot of customizations on this site, and it's already a problem with upgrades. Maybe in my mythical free time.... | |
| 20:22 | chris | :) |
| 20:22 | ricardo | jwagner: I'm having problems with the JQuery code that is in "staff-global.js": it's causing a redirection in the Login page for the Staff / Intranet, for the updated Portuguese translation... I'll try to debug this with Henri Damien-Laurent and/or Owen leonard when they return |
| 20:23 | chris | ideally if you have a local .po file you can edit that, rather than the templates |
| 20:23 | thats what i was shooting for | |
| 20:23 | ricardo | BTW, does anyone know why the JQuery code in "staff-global.js" is all... err... let's just say "not indented"? |
| 20:23 | jwagner | That's what I thought you were getting at the other day, for wording/usage. |
| 20:25 | ricardo | For instance: |
| 20:25 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]09eede7f;hb=3.0.x | |
| 20:25 | Or... even more noticeable: | |
| 20:26 | koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.hotkeys.min.js | |
| 20:26 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]d3d0f6d2b2#patch7 | |
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| 20:27 | ricardo | Is this code of "jquery.hotkeys.min.js" automatically generated, copied from somewhere else or is there some kind of rule that leads / forces this kind of "non-indentation"? |
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| 20:34 | jwagner | chris, I'm looking at one of the files in misc/translator/po now, and trying to pick up the syntax. Is there documentation somewhere of how to set these up? The file seems to be referencing line numbers in various templates. Is that correct? |
| 20:35 | ricardo | OK... Just got the answer to my own question, regarding "jquery.hotkeys.min.js" |
| 20:35 | chris | jwagner: i can set one up for you, but if you already have custom templates, it wont help |
| 20:35 | ricardo | js-hotkeys - Project Hosting on Google Code |
| 20:36 | http://code.google.com/p/js-hotkeys/ | |
| 20:36 | http://js-hotkeys.googlecode.c[…].hotkeys-0.7.9.js | |
| 20:36 | "vs" | |
| 20:36 | http://js-hotkeys.googlecode.c[…]keys-0.7.9.min.js | |
| 20:36 | jwagner | For this particular site, I'll probably just have to keep on with the templates, but I would like to know how to do it. Sheer curiousity :-) |
| 20:37 | chris | well the short answer is, those a .po files its a common translation tool for software, koha has scripts to generate a .po file from templates, and to generate tempaltes from a .po file |
| 20:37 | ricardo | Leaving again for a while... Back in a hour or so (I think) |
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| 20:37 | jwagner | I doubt I could be of any real help in the translating area, since (a) my French & German are so rusty as to be non-existent and (b) there are plenty of good French & German translators already. |
| 20:38 | But I find the concept interesting. | |
| 20:38 | Ropuch | Actually translating with tmpl_process3.pl is quite painless |
| 20:39 | If only entries in .po fikles had more 'extracted comments' ;> | |
| 20:39 | s/fikles/files | |
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| 20:44 | cait_laptop | jwagner: around? |
| 20:47 | jwagner | intermittently -- am rather doped up on painkillers so the mind is a bit fuzzy :-) |
| 20:49 | cait_laptop | ah hi - and hope you get better soon, this does not sound so good |
| 20:50 | jwagner | I have rather extensive arthritis and am in need of a knee replacement. I overdid it this weekend, and am paying the price :-( |
| 20:50 | cait_laptop | first koha training today and library is very unhappy that patrons can only place one item level hold on serial items |
| 20:51 | just wanted to ask you about this multiple hold feature you mentioned some time ago... | |
| 20:51 | jwagner | Aha! Yes, the development we're doing for that has passed internal testing & is about to be sent to the client for the first time. Seems to work nicely. There's a syspref to specify the item types where multiple holds should be allowed (i.e., MAG or PER but not BOOK). |
| 20:52 | cait_laptop | and this does really not sound good - my good wishes to you! |
| 20:52 | sounds perfect! | |
| 20:53 | jwagner | It will be a little while before it gets out to community -- client has to approve and we're so backlogged with getting everything out. But jdavidb is still planning to get a public github set up for us in his copious free time, so if he ever has a minute to work on it, we could at least get it there as a work in progress. Don't hold your breath, though -- he's really snowed under right now. |
| 20:53 | cait_laptop | we are using 2 differnet item types for volumes and issues already and are debating now, if we need to split the records and items to one item per bib... but I think this would be very confusing for the patron. |
| 20:54 | hm - so there is hope but not in the near future. | |
| 20:55 | jwagner | Not if you define "near" as the next couple of weeks, no. A month or two, probably. |
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| 20:55 | cait_laptop | ok, I think we will have to talk to the library to find a way to work around this |
| 20:56 | jwagner | David's left for the day, and I'm home nursing my aches anyway, but check back with me along about the end of the week. I might have a better timetable then. |
| 20:56 | cait_laptop | but I think this features will be a great improvement for holds |
| 20:57 | thx a lot jwagner, and get well soon! | |
| 20:58 | jwagner | Thanks. Blessings upon narcotics and their effects. Even if you can't drive or function with them.... |
| 20:59 | cait_laptop | :( |
| 21:04 | jwagner | I think I'll go zone out some more. Good night everyone. |
| 21:04 | chris | night jwagner |
| 21:04 | cait_laptop | good night jwagner |
| 21:04 | hi chris | |
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| 21:14 | chris | brooke++ |
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| 21:16 | ricardo | And there's the first patch reaching [Koha-Patches]... I'm guessing the backlog with the anti-virus in the e-mail server is clearing now :) |
| 21:16 | chris | yep |
| 21:40 | cait_laptop | time to sleep - good night everyone |
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