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| 01:21 | pianohacker | hi, #koha |
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| 01:21 | how are you? | |
| 01:22 | brendan | ah hanging in there |
| 01:22 | how's everything with you -- hand getting better ? | |
| 01:23 | pianohacker | i'm all right. hand's still broken, but is healing slowly |
| 01:24 | how's work treating you? | |
| 01:29 | brendan | well I'm still in the office -- so I guess that's good or bad |
| 01:29 | pianohacker | heh |
| 01:29 | brendan | I'd say fun :) |
| 01:29 | pianohacker | what are you working on? |
| 01:30 | brendan | some data |
| 01:30 | just had a load of items import to the wrong branch :) | |
| 01:30 | so I had to correct that... | |
| 01:31 | how about you? | |
| 01:31 | pianohacker | school :) calculus study |
| 01:31 | brendan | nice -- always loved Math |
| 01:31 | pianohacker | and now I've been called away to do some housework |
| 01:32 | (it's definitely preferable to history) | |
| 01:32 | brb | |
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| 02:30 | brendan | cya in a bit #koha |
| 02:30 | pianohacker | cya |
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| 03:11 | Amit | hi chris, richard |
| 03:11 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:20 | pianohacker | hi amit |
| 03:21 | Amit | hi pianohacker |
| 03:21 | @wounder Bangalore, India | |
| 03:21 | munin` | Amit: downloading the Perl source |
| 03:22 | pianohacker | @wunder bangalore, india |
| 03:22 | munin` | pianohacker: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 20.0�C (5:30 AM IST on October 01, 2009). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. |
| 03:22 | pianohacker | wow, you're up early |
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| 03:34 | Amit | @wunder Dehradun, India |
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| 03:36 | pianohacker | good night, #koha |
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| 05:15 | brendan | heya Amit |
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| 05:40 | kf | morning |
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| 07:02 | hdl_laptop | hi |
| 07:02 | nicomo | hi |
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| 07:28 | kf | hi hdl, nicomo and RMD |
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| 07:53 | nahuel | hi all |
| 07:53 | chris, really bad news this morning | |
| 07:53 | another earthquake :( | |
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| 08:47 | |Lupin| | good morning everybody |
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| 09:04 | hala | hi |
| 09:04 | Q :pleasre | |
| 09:04 | please | |
| 09:05 | how we import koha | |
| 09:05 | upload record to koha | |
| 09:05 | ?? | |
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| 09:07 | hdl_laptop | hala: tools/stage marc import |
| 09:07 | or bulkmarcimport on command line | |
| 09:17 | |Lupin| | hdl_laptop: I'm wondering how to determine the number of available items for a biblionumer from within a Perl script... couldn't find a function that returns that. Is there one ? |
| 09:17 | hdl_laptop | what to you mean number of "available" items |
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| 09:18 | hdl_laptop | SELECT count(*) from items where biblio=? |
| 09:18 | SELECT count(*) from items where biblionumber=? | |
| 09:18 | or | |
| 09:19 | |Lupin| | hdl_laptop: is this equivalent to counting the number of occurences of the 995 unimarc field ? |
| 09:19 | hdl_laptop | SELECT count(*) from items where biblionumber=? and items.onloan IS NOT NULL and items.notforloan=0 and items.wthdrawn=0 and items.itemlost=0 ? |
| 09:19 | |Lupin|: Yes | |
| 09:20 | (in theory) | |
| 09:20 | |Lupin| | hdl_laptop: for us the notion of "available" item is a bit irrelevant, because every iem is alwys available... |
| 09:21 | hdl_laptop: ok, thanks | |
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| 09:29 | kf | guten Tag |Lupin| |
| 09:37 | hala | after tools/stage marc import ? |
| 09:38 | chose uploID FILE BUT WHEN FINSH UPLODING THERE'S NO RECORD OR ANY ITEM | |
| 09:38 | |Lupin| | hallo kf |
| 09:39 | kf | hala: after uploading there should be a link to manage staged imports, there you can add your file to the catalog and finish import |
| 09:40 | hala | where can i find it - link to manage staged imports - |
| 09:41 | am sry if am bothering you ;) | |
| 09:42 | did you mean V | |
| 09:42 | sry | |
| 09:42 | Manage staged MARC records. | |
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| 09:56 | kf | hala: yes |
| 09:56 | hala: http://koha.org/documentation/[…]ecords-for-import | |
| 09:57 | hala: http://koha.org/documentation/[…]aged-marc-records | |
| 10:05 | hala | i have in my library 1171 books |
| 10:06 | i must to upload 1 by 1 ?? | |
| 10:06 | |Lupin| | pls everybody |
| 10:06 | is it possible from within Koha to search a biblio whose x$y field contains z ? | |
| 10:06 | hala | and from whiv cataloge can i get a record |
| 10:06 | ? | |
| 10:07 | loc or britsh library or what ? | |
| 10:08 | and how can i delet a file after import it ? | |
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| 10:09 | ricardo | Hi everyone. Is anyone "awake"? :) |
| 10:10 | |Lupin| | ricardo: not yet, but working hard to become so... :-) |
| 10:10 | (buddhist joke) | |
| 10:10 | ricardo | |Lupin|: LOL! |
| 10:11 | |Lupin|: Hi Sébastien :) I'm having a little problem with a Koha git installation (HEAD of the 3.0.x branch)... | |
| 10:11 | Advanced searches by "keyword" not working. Author and Title searches work fine. | |
| 10:11 | UNIMARC and NoZebra installation | |
| 10:12 | |Lupin| | ricardo: hmm... |
| 10:12 | kf | hala: you can do copy cataloging via z39.50 and you can load a files with many MARC records via stages marc import or bulk import |
| 10:12 | |Lupin| | ricardo: it may not help, but I switched to Zebra mode because it seems this gets much more testing and dev effort... |
| 10:13 | kf | hala: but you need your records to be valid MARC21 / UNIMARC (dpeending on your installation) and items information in 952 |
| 10:13 | ricardo | |Lupin|: agreed and understood |
| 10:13 | |Lupin| | ricardo: apart from that, I assme you built your index etc. ? |
| 10:14 | ricardo | |Lupin|: Yup. I ran rebuild_nozebra.pl Thanks :) |
| 10:14 | hala | from where can i get a user ID and password and how ? |
| 10:14 | ricardo | |Lupin|: The problem remains, though... |
| 10:14 | |Lupin|: I think I'll send a message to [Koha-Devel] and see if someone "pops" up there | |
| 10:16 | |Lupin| | ricardo: perhaps something to do with the rebuilding of frameworkcodes or whatever ? there is a script called batchRebuild something one is advised to run when one modifies cataloguing frameworks... |
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| 10:17 | hdl_laptop | ricardo: as far as BibLibre is concerned, we donot setup any nozebra zny longer |
| 10:18 | have you tried adding kw index ? | |
| 10:18 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Ouch... Thanks for the information (about not setting any NoZebra any longer). |
| 10:18 | kf | hala: to add more patrons and staff users you have to define patron categories in adminstration and add patrons after that. for staff category you can set permissions |
| 10:19 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: I thought that a keyword search searched in every field... Where should I add a "kw" index? Is it in the "NoZebraIndexes" system preference? |
| 10:19 | hdl_laptop | let me look 10 sec |
| 10:19 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Thanks :) |
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| 10:22 | hala | i cant find the method to download a Loc catalog ? |
| 10:22 | hdl_laptop | lines 1860 - 1866 |
| 10:23 | indexes are searched as exact terms. | |
| 10:23 | ^ti$ | |
| 10:23 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Of C4/Search.pm, right? |
| 10:23 | hdl_laptop | you might want to change that to ^ti |
| 10:23 | yes | |
| 10:24 | hala: search Z3950 on the manual | |
| 10:24 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Change "^ti$" to "^ti"? Why? All other indexes are ending up in "$" |
| 10:25 | (which I assume is the "end of line" for a regular expression) | |
| 10:28 | hala | did you mean from koha manual |
| 10:31 | |Lupin| | hala: yes |
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| 10:34 | hala | then ?? |
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| 10:40 | kf | hala: sorry hala, meeting now. take a look at the manual, look for z39.50 clients and download. |
| 10:41 | hala | ok . thxx alot , dnt wry |
| 10:41 | catch u later | |
| 10:42 | catch you later | |
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| 10:50 | hala | can u help me plz |
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| 10:50 | hala | i need to download the z39.50 client |
| 10:51 | may you help me in how to download it | |
| 11:00 | kf | hala: I meant search in the manual for z39.50 :) you dont have to download additonal software or programs. depending on your choices during install it should just work. start in cataloging for z39.50-download of titles. - lunch time now :) |
| 11:06 | |Lupin| | lunch time here, too |
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| 11:46 | |Lupin| | hi Jane, jdavidb |
| 11:46 | jdavidb | Hi, |Lupin|! :) |
| 11:46 | |Lupin| | jdavidb: how are you doing ? |
| 11:46 | jdavidb | I'll let you know later, after I'm awake. I was up way too late last night! |
| 11:48 | jwagner | Morning |Lupin| |
| 11:51 | Amit | hi lupin, hdl, jwagner |
| 11:52 | |Lupin| | hey Amit |
| 11:52 | jdavidb: I see. YOur day may be a bit difficult... good luck ! | |
| 11:54 | jdavidb | thanks, Lupin. Yeah, this one's gonna be rough. |
| 11:55 | |Lupin| | jdavidb: btw, are you from the United Stats ? I hought you and Jane are from UK... ? |
| 11:56 | jdavidb | Nope, we're both in Bethesda, MD, in the US. |
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| 11:56 | |Lupin| | jdavidb: MD ? |
| 11:56 | jdavidb | g'mornin, nengard. How's the new tattoo? Looks cool as heck, but I bet that stung a bit. |
| 11:57 | nengard | stung more than a bit |
| 11:57 | hehe | |
| 11:57 | jdavidb | Lupin: Maryland..a state in the northeastern part of the US. |
| 11:57 | nengard | and it's a bit sore this am - but other than that great |
| 11:57 | |Lupin| | jdavidb: ah, okay |
| 11:57 | jdavidb: | |
| 11:57 | jdavidb: thanks | |
| 11:57 | hello Nicole | |
| 11:58 | jdavidb | you bet. We're just a loud yell from the national capital, where our office is. Easy, few-minutes drive to be in Washington DC. |
| 11:59 | |Lupin| | jdavidb: ah ok, now things start to become a bit more precise to me :) |
| 11:59 | jdavidb | nengard. Tats on..erm..fluffier parts..don't hurt so bad, I'm told, but those bony spots and tendons and things on the ankle--no fat to pad it, so it hurts more. |
| 11:59 | jwagner | jdavidb, I beg to differ. There is no such thing as an easy, few-minute drive in this area unless you can remove every other driver from the roads :-( |
| 12:00 | nengard | jdavidb - yeah - hubby had his on his arm and he didn't even flinch - but the problem with fluffier parts is that they sag in old age :) |
| 12:00 | jdavidb | jwagner: Easy for me; I was a passenger in your vehicle. Sit down, hold on, and pray. Easy. Mighta been hard for *you...* |
| 12:01 | |Lupin| | pray ? :) |
| 12:01 | jwagner | jdavidb, your consideration for other people's viewpoints is as always breathtaking :-) |
| 12:02 | |Lupin|, with traffic around here, prayer is sometimes the best option. Even if you're agnostic. | |
| 12:02 | jdavidb | Lupin: Riding with jwagner is fun. She gets along well with all the rest of the traffic, and makes it look easy. |
| 12:02 | nahuel | gmcharlt, ping |
| 12:02 | gmcharlt | nahuel: pong |
| 12:02 | |Lupin| | jwagner: I see. I thought this had to do with the way you drive and found it strange to read such a thing from jdavidb :) |
| 12:02 | nahuel | gmcharlt, yes ! you're here ! |
| 12:02 | hdl_laptop | hi gmcharlt |
| 12:02 | nahuel | gmcharlt, did you forget my 3281 patch ? |
| 12:02 | :) | |
| 12:02 | gmcharlt | not, just a bot ;) |
| 12:03 | jwagner | Well, he MIGHT have been referring to that. I prefer to think otherwise :-) |
| 12:03 | nahuel | oh damned ! |
| 12:03 | :p | |
| 12:03 | jdavidb | jwagner is not a bad driver, at all. Nor even "Aggressive." I prefer the term, "enthusiastic." I never felt in danger or anything, but it was amazing how fast things were flying by... |
| 12:04 | |Lupin| | jwagner: let's say it's just me and my tendency to interprete things in a negative way :/ |
| 12:04 | jwagner | Harrumph. |
| 12:05 | jdavidb, I felt the same way when you were driving us through the Dallas freeways! | |
| 12:05 | jdavidb | (Not like in a Boston taxi, where I laid down in the back seat and told the driver to let me know when we were there. |
| 12:06 | jwagner: I'm sure. Dallas is *fast*. DC traffic seems to be a lot more tightly packed, but not quite so fast. | |
| 12:06 | kf | jwagner: jane, just looked at the new sys prefs I got yesterday - will there be an option to hide messaging in opac? I thought I saw one somewhere |
| 12:07 | gmcharlt | nahuel: looking at now |
| 12:07 | nahuel | ok cool! |
| 12:07 | kf | ok, I thought I saw a patch from you for this, but not sure now :) |
| 12:07 | nahuel | gmcharlt, I sent it in june |
| 12:07 | jwagner | kf, do you mean the new messaging system for borrower notes? Or hiding the messaging tab (where borrowers can set notice prefs?) |
| 12:07 | kf | second |
| 12:08 | gmcharlt | nahuel: I'm lokoing at your resend, I mean |
| 12:08 | jwagner | I sent a patch (see Bug 3535) on August 17 to hide the messaging tab -- not sure if it's made it into head yet. |
| 12:08 | nahuel | :) |
| 12:08 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3535 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagnerptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Add syspref to control display of My Messaging tab in OPAC |
| 12:08 | nahuel | gmcharlt, the resent is rebased on new head / 3.0.x |
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| 12:09 | kf | jwagner: thx :) good to know its done, can wait and perhaps hide it with css |
| 12:10 | jwagner | kf, I just uploaded the patch file itself to the bug report, if you want to download and try installing. Not that I know how to do that myself :-( |
| 12:11 | kf | kf: have order to avoid customization as far as possible :) but I think css will work, some display:none |
| 12:16 | |Lupin| | pls |
| 12:17 | is it a usual thing o report problems by e-mails to the webmaster in Koha ? | |
| 12:17 | kf | ok, perhaps its a little more difficult |
| 12:17 | |Lupin| | If so, I'm wondering which function to call to achieve this... |
| 12:32 | ricardo | Back from lunch |
| 12:33 | |Lupin|: There's a System Preference with the E-mail Address of the Koha Admin for that installation... Is that what you want? | |
| 12:34 | |Lupin| | ricardo: ell... partially. I am more interested in how these e-mails can be sent from within a script |
| 12:35 | ricardo | |Lupin|: Hmmm... Let me see |
| 12:36 | |Lupin|: The name of the preference is "KohaAdminEmailAddress" | |
| 12:36 | greenmang0 | @wunder mumbai |
| 12:37 | munin` | greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0�C (5:40 PM IST on October 01, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:37 | * ricardo | is looking for code Koha samples that use System Preferences |
| 12:39 | jdavidb | if (C4::Context->preference{'sysprefname'} eq "teststring") { do something } #like that? |
| 12:39 | ricardo | jdavidb: Yeah... It will be something like that :) |
| 12:39 | jdavidb | Grepping C4 for "preference" will give you more examples than you could possibly want, I think. |
| 12:42 | ricardo | |Lupin|: done |
| 12:43 | http://koha.pastebin.com/d625311bd | |
| 12:43 | |Lupin| | ricardo: cool ! thanks a lot for your help !! |
| 12:44 | ricardo | |Lupin|: You're welcome :) |
| 12:45 | jdavidb: Thanks for your tip as well... One not... Around 'sysprefname', it should be "(" - parenthesis - and NOT "{" - curly bracket ... At least, in my setup. | |
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| 12:50 | * jdavidb | greps C4. |
| 12:50 | jdavidb | Sure 'nuf, you're right, ricardo. :) |
| 12:50 | ricardo | jdavidb: :) |
| 12:53 | Other development question: shouldn't unconditional "warn" statements in Koha code, appear in the "ErrorLog"s ( /var/log/koha-error_log and /var/log/koha-opac-error_log )? | |
| 12:55 | |Lupin| | ricardo: don't they ? |
| 12:56 | ricardo | |Lupin|: They are not appearing (since 8-Jun-2009)... At least in my setup... I may be doing something "incredibly" wrong, of course |
| 12:58 | |Lupin| | ricardo: you may want to check your apache configuration to see whether they are not logged in another file... |
| 12:58 | ricardo: e.g. the general error log file rather than the KOha specific one | |
| 12:59 | ricardo | |Lupin|: Right... That's what I'm reading right now, but it seems OK... My eyes may be deceiving me, though |
| 13:01 | Hmm... I wonder if I might have some problems with permissions.... For now, I'll also activate TransferLog and see if the that file (koha-access_log) is created | |
| 13:02 | * ricardo | is restarting Apache ... |
| 13:06 | ricardo | Right... |
| 13:06 | This DOES seem a permission problems... | |
| 13:06 | Log files are being owned by User "root" / Group "root" and only with 644 permissions | |
| 13:07 | jdavidb | I've had the error file suddenly switch back to the apache default ones a couple of times, without changes to the apache config. Still haven't figured out why, but restarting apache clears it up at once. |
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| 13:08 | ricardo | jdavidb: Interesting. Thanks for the info... I think that, in my case, the problem is due to having git set up some directories as "subdirectories" of the "/root" directory... But I'll compare the permissions with one "nomal" Koha setup |
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| 13:09 | ricardo | Yep... These files should be owned by User and Group "koha" |
| 13:11 | slef | ricardo: do you have logrotate installed? If so, check /etc/logrotate.d and see if it is rotating your koha logfiles |
| 13:12 | ricardo | slef: Hi MJ! :) |
| 13:12 | slef: Thanks... I may check that (although I believe it's not rotating those logfiles) | |
| 13:12 | jwagner | Question on hold slips -- has anyone seen situations where the barcode doesn't print on the slip? I'm getting reports and screen shots where occasionally the barcode just doesn't print. It does on other slips. The item has a barcode, and the template file has the barcode field. Why would it fail to print on some items? |
| 13:14 | ricardo | jwagner: Sorry. I don't have ANY experience with hold slips / barcodes :( |
| 13:15 | owen | jwagner: Just a wild guess, but could it be an overflow problem? Not enough width, and the printer/browser doesn't manage? |
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| 13:18 | chris_n | g'morning |
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| 13:19 | ricardo | Hi chris! :) |
| 13:19 | jwagner | owen, not sure about that -- it |
| 13:19 | s | |
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| 13:20 | jwagner | try that again. It's not a lengthy record, and the rest of the slip prints (title, author, etc.) It's always just the barcode that's missing. |
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| 13:24 | owen | Hi CGI805, collum |
| 13:24 | |Lupin| | pls |
| 13:24 | collum | hi owen |
| 13:24 | |Lupin| | how should I print a message in a perl script so that it appears n the web browser ? just print it on stdout ? |
| 13:24 | (hi owen) | |
| 13:26 | ricardo | Do other people here have to add a "LogLevel warn" line to their Apache configuration files, so they see are able to see unconditional warnings in their Log Files? Or is the "DebugLevel" set to "2", in the Koha System Preferences, enough for that? (I'm guessing that LogLevel is still necessary) |
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| 13:29 | Amit | happy weekend to all |
| 13:29 | slef | ricardo: LogLevel is for apache only I think; DebugLevel and KOHA_DEBUG are for Koha |
| 13:29 | Amit | hi slef |
| 13:29 | slef | Amit: hi - a bit early for weekending? |
| 13:30 | Amit | yes 2oct gandhi jayanti |
| 13:30 | so national holiday | |
| 13:30 | slef | ah local holiday |
| 13:30 | ricardo | slef: Right... But where do I see the "warn"ings in Koha? Is it in the web pages of Koha (they are not appearing there, for me)? |
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| 13:39 | jwagner | Following up on my vanishing barcode -- if you can manage to refresh the print window for the hold slip, the barcode frequently will appear on the second try. Or if you cancel that print and then do it again, the barcode appears. I just don't know why it's not getting to that screen the first time. |
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| 13:43 | slef | ricardo: koha warnings go to the error_log files |
| 13:45 | owen | jwagner: have you tried doing a view-source on the print window to confirm the data is always coming through? |
| 13:46 | ricardo | slef: OK... So, I should also put "SetEnv KOHA_DEBUG 2" in the "koha-httpd.conf" file, alongside the "DebugLevel" = 2 in the Koha System Preferences? |
| 13:48 | jwagner | owen, I managed to get a view source (difficult with it wanting to send directly to printer). The data does not come through in the source code when the barcode doesn't appear. I've just opened a bug report (Bug 3686) with examples of view source. |
| 13:48 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3686 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Hold slips sometimes don't print barcode |
| 13:48 | jwagner | It seems to be a browser problem of some kind, since a refresh does fix it. I don't know how to zero in on it, though. |
| 13:49 | slef | ricardo: it depends what you are trying to debug |
| 13:50 | ricardo | slef: If I add a "warn" statement in a subroutine of C4/Search.pm that is called... where will that message appear? |
| 13:51 | |Lupin| | is it possible to run a Koha CGI script from the command-line _and_ log in ? I know how to give it the other parameters in the QUERY_STRING, but how about login and password ? |
| 13:52 | ricardo: printed to stderr of your script, so normally it should end up in a log file. | |
| 13:52 | slef | ricardo: all over error_log I think |
| 13:53 | |Lupin|: only with the usual sort of web app test tools... you send it login and password, then capture the cookie and send that with further requests | |
| 13:54 | |Lupin| | slef: you can't send everything at once by using the right environment variables and so on ? |
| 13:54 | ricardo | slef: OK... It's getting logged in /var/log/apache2/other_vhosts_access.log |
| 13:54 | slef | |Lupin|: I think login is always a distinct step but I don't remember this stuff without my notes. |
| 13:54 | ricardo: ouch! | |
| 13:55 | |Lupin| | slef: it probably means the direcives in the KOha vhost are not taken into account for some reasons |
| 13:55 | ricardo | |Lupin|: *nod* |
| 13:56 | slef | check with "apache2ctl -S" |
| 13:56 | which should print apache's understanding of the config | |
| 13:56 | ricardo | slef: Right... Output of that looks good |
| 13:57 | I won't worry with that for now... What I wanted was to *find* the warnings to debug a specific problem :) | |
| 13:57 | slef | have you told apache to reload its config (either init.d/apache2 reload or apache2ctl graceful) since changing the config last? |
| 13:57 | ok, nm | |
| 13:57 | ricardo | slef: I did apache2 *restart* ("restart" should also "reload", I think) |
| 13:58 | slef: Maybe LogRotate is at fault here, like you suggested. Oh well... | |
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| 14:32 | nengard | morning boss (aka brendan) :) hehe |
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| 14:35 | wizzyrea | hehe oh that's nice to see |
| 14:35 | and 'mornin nicole | |
| 14:36 | brendan | morning nengard |
| 14:37 | morning wizzyrea | |
| 14:37 | jwagner | question for libraries with parent-child records. For notices, (a) does the notice go to the child, or to the guarantor record? and (b) if to the child and the child does not have an email address, does it go to the guarantor's email? |
| 14:55 | owen | Argh.... "Open" lists are such a pain in the butt. |
| 14:55 | Can we just do away with them please? | |
| 14:56 | ricardo | owen: "lists" in the "virtual shelves" sense? |
| 14:56 | owen | Yes. They're referred to as lists in 3.x |
| 15:00 | I appreciate the wiki-like spirit of an open list, but without some kind of revision history it's too easy to delete stuff forever. | |
| 15:02 | And meanwhile, we've got a night mare of divergent permissions with regard to when someone can create a list or add something to a list. | |
| 15:02 | Should the "add to list" feature always be present because one could always create an open list? | |
| 15:03 | ricardo | owen: I guess so (but I don't use "lists") |
| 15:04 | owen: You *might* check beforehand if there's already a "open list" / "public list" created and only display a "Add to List" if there's one | |
| 15:06 | OK... | |
| 15:07 | This particular NoZebra setup looks a bit... err... weird: | |
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| 15:10 | ricardo | There's only one row in the "nozebra" table that has "biblionumbers" field filled in, with a VERY LONG text... It ends like so: |
| 15:10 | ... 374,lessysteme-1;376,lesyndrome-1;384,palmaresle-1;386,networldin-1;395,lesgestion-1; | |
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| 15:12 | ricardo | Should those words appear in the "biblionumbers" field? |
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| 15:20 | owen | Does anyone know if it's possible to combine some kind of variable output with mysqldump to generate a file with the date as part of the filename? |
| 15:21 | ricardo | owen: I usually create a small Perl script for that :) |
| 15:23 | collum | owen: there is a shell script at http://sourceforge.net/project[…]ysqlbackup/files/ that does it. |
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| 15:52 | |Lupin| | bye everybody |
| 15:52 | take care | |
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| 16:11 | nengard | anyone on with a bit of xml knowledge? I'm trying to convert XHTML to Docbook - and this site: http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/Html2DocBook says to use the stylesheet - but how do I apply the stylesheet? |
| 16:14 | nicomo | nengard: http://infomotions.com/musings[…]ed.html#id2522295 might be of help |
| 16:14 | nengard | thanks nicomo |
| 16:14 | off to read it | |
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| 16:18 | CGI976 | hello |
| 16:19 | i am a koha user | |
| 16:21 | ricardo | CGI976: Hi. You may change your nickname by typing /nick <desired nickname> |
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| 17:13 | nengard | nicomo that worked - i figured it out - not sure how we're going to get the images over - but I've made a start |
| 17:13 | nicomo | cool |
| 17:13 | that's a first step, we'll see | |
| 17:23 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Are you still there? |
| 17:25 | Is anyone here familiar with the "rtrn" operator in the "Search.pm" file? Should it be called in "keyword" searches? It is currently, and I'm not sure why | |
| 17:25 | hdl_laptop | ricardo: yes |
| 17:26 | rtrn operator is for right truncation | |
| 17:27 | Maybe you have queryautotruncate set to 1 | |
| 17:27 | ricardo: yes <= I am familiar with rtrn | |
| 17:27 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Right... The thing is: keyword searches for ONE keyword are returning zero results... (although they exist)... |
| 17:27 | hdl_laptop: But keyword searches for TWO keywords return the right results | |
| 17:28 | Example: | |
| 17:28 | http://koha30x.kohademo.info/c[…]arch.pl?q=vidigal | |
| 17:28 | VS | |
| 17:28 | http://koha30x.kohademo.info/c[…]lu%C3%ADs+vidigal | |
| 17:30 | hdl_laptop: Do you see what I mean? | |
| 17:30 | hdl_laptop | http://koha30x.kohademo.info/c[…]=Anything+vidigal |
| 17:30 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Yes... I don't know if a keyword search is, by default, an "AND" or an "OR" search... |
| 17:31 | ... but if you search for only ONE term, it should display the results | |
| 17:31 | right? | |
| 17:32 | hdl_laptop | yes. |
| 17:33 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: So, that's what's puzzling me :( |
| 17:33 | hdl_laptop | two words search should be and AND |
| 17:33 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: OK... That would be *another* problem then |
| 17:33 | hdl_laptop | Why ? |
| 17:33 | if you are looking for Luis Vidigal | |
| 17:34 | you are not looking for Luis || Vidigal | |
| 17:34 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: The problem that I'm presenting now is that a simple search for "vidigal" should return some results... and it is NOT returning |
| 17:34 | hdl_laptop | ok. |
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| 17:37 | hdl_laptop | ricardo: I believe it has to do with lines 1019 |
| 17:37 | in Search.pm | |
| 17:38 | |Lupin| | hi again |
| 17:38 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: "# Field-weighted queries already have indexes set" ? |
| 17:38 | hdl_laptop | no |
| 17:38 | ricardo | |Lupin|: Hi Sébastien :) |
| 17:38 | |Lupin| | ricardo: hi Ricardo :/ |
| 17:38 | hdl_laptop | my $cclq; |
| 17:38 | my $cclindexes = getIndexes(); | |
| 17:38 | if( $query !~ /\s*ccl=/ ){ | |
| 17:38 | for my $index (@$cclindexes){ | |
| 17:38 | if($query =~ /($index)(,?\w)*:/){ | |
| 17:39 | which version are you on ? | |
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| 17:40 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: git version for 3.0.x branch |
| 17:41 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]8e96e6d6;hb=3.0.x | |
| 17:43 | chris | morning |
| 17:43 | nicomo | morning chris |
| 17:43 | chris | nengard: use herold |
| 17:44 | brendan | morning chris |
| 17:44 | chris | http://www.michael-a-fuchs.de/[…]t/en/html2db.html |
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| 17:45 | |Lupin| | hi chris |
| 17:45 | nengard | chris couldn't figure it out - but I did it without it :) |
| 17:48 | hdl_laptop | ricardo: yes 1019 is what i pasted |
| 17:48 | ricardo | chris: Hi! I already received an updated Portuguese translation file from the SAPO Summerbits student (Marta Grachat). She'll send me a still more updated version in the next few days. When that happens, should I submit it to "git" for the Koha 3.0.x branch, so it gets accepted for Koha 3.0.4? |
| 17:49 | chris | cool nengard |
| 17:49 | hdl_laptop | ricardo you had better pass through upload on Pootle |
| 17:49 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: regarding Pootle => OK |
| 17:49 | hdl_laptop | ricardo: it is high time for me to have a break. |
| 17:49 | Will investiguate on your pb | |
| 17:50 | chris | ricardo: yes, through pootle or me, (who will put it through pootle) or i will overwrite it from pootle next time i update the git repo |
| 17:50 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: OK, thanks:) I may also try do debug this myself, but I do need some hints to do it...please? :) |
| 17:51 | chris: OK... I'll upload it through Pootle then. Thanks | |
| 17:53 | chris | awesome |
| 17:53 | grrrr | |
| 17:53 | this is annoying | |
| 17:53 | ricardo | chris: what? |
| 17:53 | chris | http://koha.org/news/hiwassee-[…]e-enterprise-koha |
| 17:53 | stop advertising your fork on koha.org !!! | |
| 17:54 | |Lupin| | please |
| 17:54 | I'm wondering | |
| 17:54 | in templates | |
| 17:54 | is it possible to write something between the TMPL_ELSE and the --> ? | |
| 17:54 | ricardo | |Lupin|: No wonder... Templates are a wonderful thing ;-) (sorry... I'll stop now) |
| 17:55 | chris | like what |Lupin| ? |
| 17:55 | |Lupin| | e.g. <!-- TMPL_ELSE variable--> to make clear to with TMPL_IF the TMPL_ELSE is related... ? |
| 17:56 | chris | no |
| 17:56 | |Lupin| | ricardo: yeah I agree they offer a very nice functionality and a rather nice way to separate the code from the visual presentation. But I find them rather difficult to write |
| 17:56 | chris | the way you do that is with good indentation |
| 17:57 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Still there? Other simple comparison (it may help you helping me, while debugging): |
| 17:57 | |Lupin| | chris: ah yes, why not. I was a bit reluctant to indent, because I recalled lynx doing funny things with indented code... |
| 17:57 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: http://koha30x.kohademo.info/c[…]arch.pl?q=vidigal |
| 17:57 | hdl_laptop: (that one gives 0 results) | |
| 17:58 | wizzyrea | it's too bad you can't make comments on the announcements |
| 17:58 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Vs |
| 17:58 | hdl_laptop: http://koha30x.kohademo.info/c[…]?idx=au&q=vidigal | |
| 17:58 | hdl_laptop: (that one gives 2 results) | |
| 18:02 | chris | wizzyrea: its too bad we cant do much of anything on that website |
| 18:03 | wizzyrea | grr |
| 18:04 | |Lupin| | why is this so ? |
| 18:04 | chris | because liblime control it |
| 18:04 | |Lupin| | because of plone or because nobody has the rights ? |
| 18:04 | chris: right | |
| 18:04 | and nobody can hep ? | |
| 18:04 | nengard: perhaps ? | |
| 18:04 | chris | she doesnt work for liblime |
| 18:04 | she had the good sense to leave | |
| 18:05 | |Lupin| | ah... |
| 18:07 | nengard | what might i know? |
| 18:09 | |Lupin| | nengard: I didn't mean you might "know" something |
| 18:10 | ricardo | nengard: I think that only you know what you might know ;-) |
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| 18:10 | wizzyrea | |Lupin| b/c nobody has the rights to Plone :P |
| 18:10 | |Lupin| | nengard: actually, I didn't know you ere nolonger working for liblime, so I thought yo may have the rights on the koha.org site |
| 18:10 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 18:11 | |Lupin| | wizzyrea: k |
| 18:14 | nengard | |Lupin| I work for ByWater and Biblibre now - starting today :) but even if I didn't - I only had/have rights to the documentation area |
| 18:14 | ricardo | nengard: Right... Today is the 1st October. I wish you a great 1st day! :) |
| 18:14 | nengard: Are you doing all the work remotely now ("telecommuting")? | |
| 18:15 | brendan | happy october 1st :) |
| 18:15 | nengard | ricardo thanks :) it's going well - lots of documentation research done - trying to fidn a way to make the documentation more accessible and translatable |
| 18:15 | yes - i telecommute | |
| 18:15 | wizzyrea | yes, tomorrow is my anniversary! I <3 October 1-2! |
| 18:15 | nengard | would be hard to work in france and california at the same time :) |
| 18:15 | congrats wizzyrea | |
| 18:15 | wizzyrea | ty ty |
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| 18:16 | ricardo | nengard: LOL! Obviously, eheh... But I was wondering if you were working physically in "ByWater" and remotely for "BibLibre" |
| 18:16 | nengard | hehe - nope ;) I'm at home for both - home in PA - I love my house and my area and don't want to move - and hubby loves his job - and he can't telecommute |
| 18:17 | tonight i get to teach future librarians at Rutgers about open source software :) | |
| 18:18 | ricardo | nengard: Cool :) Now, I'm very curious... Only answer if you wish: what kind of contract do you have with them (NOT asking about salary / payment, just about the kind of work relation)? |
| 18:18 | nengard | I'm doing a little bit of everything and anything really |
| 18:18 | kind of what i like | |
| 18:18 | first priority is to fix the documentation so that biblibre and translate it easily | |
| 18:18 | i'll also still do writing and teaching of open source | |
| 18:18 | and i'll help with migrations | |
| 18:18 | ricardo | nengard: Hmmm... But are you working as a contractor? (I was wondering more about "legal terms") |
| 18:19 | nengard | and programming (as I learn more) |
| 18:19 | ricardo - ah - i work for bywater in the US and they handle the contract part with biblibre | |
| 18:20 | ricardo | nengard: OK. That answers half of my questions :) The 2nd one would be: have you been hired as an employee by "ByWater" or is it some other kind of arrangement? |
| 18:20 | brendan | ricardo -- main goal was to keep nengard in the community as much as possible so We (ByWater) and biblibre got together and made it possible :) |
| 18:21 | ricardo | brendan: Yes, and that's great! Hats off to all of you (ByWater, BibLibre ... and Nicole, obviously!) :) |
| 18:22 | chris | ok time to get ready for work |
| 18:22 | ricardo | chris: OK Chris. Take care! :) |
| 18:23 | |Lupin| | nengard: it's very cool to have ou in the community, I'm happy you stay around althoughyou are not at liblime anylonger. |
| 18:35 | ricardo | Time to go home. Take care people! :) |
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| 18:50 | chris | |Lupin|: its because she isnt liblime she can stay around :) |
| 18:53 | and with that, time to catch my bus cyas in 40 mins or so | |
| 18:53 | * chris | hopes its not the whiplash bus today |
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| 19:28 | * owen | thanks wizzyrea for reminding him of his anniversary by mentioning hers |
| 19:31 | wizzyrea | owen: you're welcome |
| 19:31 | (when is it?) | |
| 19:31 | owen | Sunday! |
| 19:31 | wizzyrea | !! |
| 19:31 | whew! at least you'll have time to plan! | |
| 19:32 | (if you do that sort of thing) | |
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| 19:34 | richard | hi |
| 19:44 | chris | mine is the 10th |
| 19:44 | 10/10 | |
| 19:44 | we picked that day, cos it works the same for american's and nzers :) | |
| 19:45 | |Lupin| | k, enough perl hacking for today |
| 19:45 | see you later guys ! | |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | october_weddings++ |
| 19:46 | chris | cya |Lupin| |
| 19:46 | |Lupin| | see you chris, have a nice day |
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| 19:47 | owen | chris: I'd be happy to receive anniversary congratulations on April 10th *and* Oct. 4th :) |
| 19:47 | chris | :-) |
| 19:48 | way i see it, its just twice as much chance to get in trouble for forgetting | |
| 19:48 | :) | |
| 19:48 | wizzyrea | lol |
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| 19:55 | chris | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRGo-Zp8_3A |
| 19:55 | song for a sunny wellington day | |
| 19:56 | with some nice nz scenery | |
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| 20:04 | Jo | morning all |
| 20:05 | chris | hi Jo |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | oh that is cherful |
| 20:07 | cheerful | |
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| 22:02 | pianohacker | Good afternoon, #koha |
| 22:02 | chris | heya pianohacker |
| 22:02 | pianohacker | hi chris |
| 22:03 | how's it going? | |
| 22:04 | chris | pretty good, how bout urself? |
| 22:04 | pianohacker | good, catching up in school |
| 22:05 | chris | cool ;) |
| 22:05 | brendan | afternoon pianohacker |
| 22:05 | pianohacker | hi brendan |
| 22:05 | chris | http://bywatersolutions.com/wordpress/?p=53 <-- yay |
| 22:06 | brendan | what's the homework for today :) |
| 22:06 | pianohacker | ahh, a physics assignment |
| 22:07 | brendan | cool physics was my favorite |
| 22:07 | pianohacker | with online homeschool, my schedule is largely self-determined, as long as I get everything in |
| 22:08 | brendan | that's a different model than I had |
| 22:08 | pianohacker | it's kind of fun to figure out mechanics of everyday stuff (normal forces, friction and whatnot) |
| 22:08 | brendan | I had a scary physics teacher |
| 22:08 | he wouldn't let me into his class unless I was clean shaved... | |
| 22:08 | he was an old Navy guy | |
| 22:11 | pianohacker | haha |
| 22:11 | and I thought I was suffering with my physics teacher's monotonous voice | |
| 22:22 | has anyone else read the design documents for barrelfish? | |
| 22:22 | chris | not i |
| 22:23 | pianohacker | http://www.barrelfish.org/ - very interesting thoughts on multiprocessor os development |
| 22:24 | * chris | bookmarks |
| 22:25 | brendan | why the name barrelfish |
| 22:25 | pianohacker | also readable, which is a nice change after trying to puzzle through things like j-pake |
| 22:25 | no idea | |
| 22:25 | it's microsoft-related, the name doesn't have to make sense | |
| 22:25 | brendan | ha |
| 22:26 | a bunch of smart looking pale people :) | |
| 22:27 | pianohacker | notice that they took one of the attractive women and put her in the front row |
| 22:27 | brendan | yup |
| 22:28 | rhcl | She's the only woman! Where else to put her? |
| 22:28 | chris | she shold be off at the windows 7 party |
| 22:28 | pianohacker | heh. where all of the male geeks visiting the site will see her, of course :P |
| 22:29 | brendan | did google have their wave party yet ? |
| 22:29 | chris | (worst advertising campaign ever the windows 7 youtube videos) |
| 22:29 | pianohacker | looks like someone else peeking over shoulders at the back; maybe she didn't make the cut |
| 22:29 | chris: a mediocre advertising campaign from microsoft? how shocking! | |
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| 22:48 | pianohacker | Time to get back to school, cya #koha |
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| 23:04 | chris_n^2 | @later tell pianohacker interesting article on quantum physics and entanglement with relation to quantum computing http://www.sciencenews.org/vie[…]in_the_macroworld |
| 23:04 | munin` | chris_n^2: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:07 | brendan | cya later #koha |
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| 23:23 | richard is now known as rich-away | |
| 23:30 | chris_n^2 | does anyone know of a good FOSS GPS package? |
| 23:32 | * chris_n^2 | discovers GPS::NMEA on cpan |
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