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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:07 | brendan | hey good evening richard chris |
| 00:08 | richard | hi brendan |
| 00:08 | brendan | will have to keep my eyes out for John Key |
| 00:08 | chris | hehe |
| 00:28 | chris_n2-away | "LibLime and the LibLime logo, Koha and LibLime Enterprise Koha are either registered trademarks or trademarks of LibLime." |
| 00:28 | hrmph | |
| 00:28 | I wonder which is which? | |
| 00:28 | chris | where's that? |
| 00:28 | on the liblime site? | |
| 00:28 | chris_n2-away | http://koha.org/news/liblime-a[…]e-enterprise-koha |
| 00:29 | near the bottom | |
| 00:29 | here's more: "The solution is backed by LibLime technical support and includes access to a new LibLime Customer Website which features: Customer Wish Lists, a Software Roadmap, LibLime-specific Documentation Center and other support information." | |
| 00:29 | chris | yeah, so tell me again, how is this not a fork? |
| 00:30 | * chris_n2-away | think's a for is good for sticking things... or even people :-\ |
| 00:30 | chris_n2-away | s/for/fork/ |
| 00:30 | chris | we do really need to edit the website, to point a demos that arent demo's of LEK but of real Koha |
| 00:30 | chris_n2-away is now known as chris_n^2 | |
| 00:31 | mason | yeah, good luck with that ;) |
| 00:31 | chris | i know, changing the development team page to, thats out of date and wrong now |
| 00:31 | but yeah, not gonna happen | |
| 00:38 | mason | devnull liblime.com |
| 00:39 | pie | need a new site/domain name time :( |
| 00:39 | but that's not the best solution | |
| 00:40 | chris_n^2 | mason: lol :-) |
| 00:53 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: have you tried the patch I sent you about ModBiblioMarc ? |
| 01:02 | chris | i havent seen gmcharlt today hdl_laptop |
| 01:02 | @seen gmcharlt | |
| 01:02 | munin` | chris: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 13 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> kf: ok |
| 01:03 | * hdl_laptop | wondered whether the patch for Bug3640 would be included or not. |
| 01:03 | hdl_laptop | And I hesitate to put it into 3.0.x since it is quite a serious bug for french ppl. |
| 01:04 | chris | right |
| 01:14 | * chris_n^2 | hates it when he forgets and tries to use vim commands in OO writer :-P |
| 01:17 | chris | heh |
| 02:00 | wajasu left #koha | |
| 02:02 | brendan left #koha | |
| 02:37 | hdl_laptop left #koha | |
| 02:41 | brendan joined #koha | |
| 02:44 | brendan | heya #koha |
| 02:44 | like the new title for the channel | |
| 02:44 | new-title++ | |
| 02:46 | chris | heh |
| 02:53 | chris_n^2 | howdy brendan |
| 02:54 | brendan | hey chris_n^2 |
| 02:54 | seems you all are always on right when I'm going to bed or just getting home :) | |
| 02:54 | tonight -- time for bed (EDT time not PST time) | |
| 02:54 | chris | sleep well |
| 02:55 | brendan | you too chris - enjoy the rest of your day :) |
| 02:55 | chris_n^2 | brendan: right.... past time for bed EDT |
| 02:55 | g'night | |
| 02:55 | brendan | yupper :) |
| 02:59 | chris_n^2 | @seen munin |
| 02:59 | munin` | chris_n^2: I have not seen munin. |
| 03:00 | chris_n^2 | lol |
| 03:00 | @factoid random | |
| 03:00 | munin` | chris_n^2: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 03:00 | chris_n^2 | @factoid |
| 03:00 | munin` | chris_n^2: downloading the Perl source |
| 03:00 | chris_n^2 | @fact random |
| 03:00 | munin` | chris_n^2: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 03:00 | chris_n^2 | hmm |
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| 03:01 | chris | wow, up late schuster |
| 03:01 | @quote random | |
| 03:01 | munin` | chris: Quote #28: "<owen> I'm glad munin doesn't follow me around all day remembering *everything* I say." (added by jdavidb at 01:14 PM, September 01, 2009) |
| 03:01 | schuster | It's only 10 pm... |
| 03:01 | folding laundry so I thought I'd see what's going on in Koha land | |
| 03:01 | chris | :) not too much |
| 03:03 | chris_n^2 | I thought munin remembered some facts...? |
| 03:04 | chris | i think it can |
| 03:04 | munin: what is fish? | |
| 03:04 | @help factoid | |
| 03:04 | munin` | chris: Error: There is no command "factoid". |
| 03:04 | chris | @help |
| 03:04 | munin` | chris: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 03:04 | chris | @help fact |
| 03:04 | munin` | chris: Error: There is no command "fact". |
| 03:06 | chris_n^2 | "Munin" means "memory". |
| 03:06 | interesting | |
| 03:07 | chris | @help plugins |
| 03:07 | munin` | chris: Error: There is no command "plugins". |
| 03:07 | chris | i wish there was one to show you a list of the plugins it had running |
| 03:09 | chris_n^2 | google cant seem to find a list of munin plugins |
| 03:09 | chris | well munin is just its nick |
| 03:09 | its a supybot | |
| 03:09 | chris_n^2 | ahh |
| 03:09 | chris | http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/commands.html |
| 03:10 | @help factoids | |
| 03:10 | munin` | chris: Error: There is no command "factoids". |
| 03:10 | chris | @info fish |
| 03:10 | munin` | chris: Error: No factoid matches that key. |
| 03:10 | chris | @random |
| 03:10 | munin` | chris: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict, Factoids, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". |
| 03:10 | chris | @info random |
| 03:10 | munin` | chris: Error: No factoid matches that key. |
| 03:10 | chris | @factoids random |
| 03:10 | munin` | chris: "slef": MJ Ray, webmaster-developer for TTLLP software.coop; "light-speed": 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight; "koha": http://www.koha.org/ |
| 03:10 | chris | there we go |
| 03:11 | chris_n^2 | hmmm, the list could get rather long |
| 03:11 | chris | @whatis koha |
| 03:11 | munin` | chris: "koha" could be http://www.koha.org/ |
| 03:11 | chris_n^2 | @help factoids |
| 03:11 | munin` | chris_n^2: Error: There is no command "factoids". |
| 03:11 | chris | http://supybot.sourceforge.net[…]ids.html#factoids |
| 03:11 | @whatis munin | |
| 03:11 | munin` | chris: Error: No factoid matches that key. |
| 03:12 | chris_n^2 | @list factoids |
| 03:12 | munin` | chris_n^2: change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, search, unlock, and whatis |
| 03:12 | chris | @learn munin supybot http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/commands.html |
| 03:12 | munin` | chris: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 03:12 | chris | @learn munin as supybot http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/commands.html |
| 03:12 | munin` | chris: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:12 | chris | @whatis munin |
| 03:12 | munin` | chris: "munin" could be supybot http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/commands.html |
| 03:13 | chris_n^2 | @factoid learn open-source means open-source |
| 03:13 | munin` | chris_n^2: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 03:13 | chris_n^2 | @learn open-source means open-source |
| 03:13 | munin` | chris_n^2: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 03:13 | chris_n^2 | @learn open-source as open-source |
| 03:13 | munin` | chris_n^2: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:13 | chris_n^2 | @whatis open-source |
| 03:13 | munin` | chris_n^2: "open-source" could be open-source |
| 03:14 | chris_n^2 | no, no "should be" |
| 03:14 | chris | hehe |
| 03:14 | chris_n^2 | "must be" |
| 03:14 | schuster | munin-node |
| 03:14 | You two are having too much fun... looks like artificial intelligence on a newborn. | |
| 03:14 | chris | @list |
| 03:14 | munin` | chris: Admin, Alias, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, Dict, Dunno, Factoids, Filter, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, MARC, Math, Misc, News, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, Seen, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Weather |
| 03:15 | chris_n^2 | @random |
| 03:15 | munin` | chris_n^2: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict, Factoids, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". |
| 03:15 | chris_n^2 | @random factoids |
| 03:15 | munin` | chris_n^2: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict, Factoids, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". |
| 03:15 | chris_n^2 | @factoids random |
| 03:15 | munin` | chris_n^2: "light-speed": 1.8026175 * 10^(12) furlongs per fortnight; "munin": supybot http://supybot.sourceforge.net[…]cs/commands.html; "slef": MJ Ray, webmaster-developer for TTLLP software.coop |
| 03:15 | chris | @help herald |
| 03:15 | munin` | chris: Error: There is no command "herald". |
| 03:15 | chris | @list herald |
| 03:15 | munin` | chris: add, change, default, get, and remove |
| 03:16 | chris_n^2 | @news |
| 03:16 | munin` | chris_n^2: No news for #koha. |
| 03:16 | chris_n^2 | opps |
| 03:16 | @help news | |
| 03:16 | munin` | chris_n^2: (news [<channel>] [<id>]) -- Display the news items for <channel> in the format of '(#id) subject'. If <id> is given, retrieve only that news item; otherwise retrieve all news items. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
| 03:17 | chris | @herald add schuster Texas is in the house! |
| 03:17 | munin` | chris: Error: I can't find schuster in my user database. If you didn't give a user name, then I might not know what your user is, and you'll need to identify before this command might work. |
| 03:17 | chris | dang |
| 03:18 | chris_n^2 | @news add #koha Organizing:Koha Foundation polling begins 29 September 2009 http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]sep15#action_item |
| 03:18 | munin` | chris_n^2: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 03:18 | schuster | funny... - do any cool Koha programming or what are you working on? |
| 03:18 | chris_n^2 | @koha-opac search |
| 03:18 | munin` | chris_n^2: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 03:18 | chris | im working on a recommendation feature |
| 03:19 | well i will be on monday | |
| 03:19 | @news add #koha Organizing:Koha Foundation polling begins 29 September 2009 http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]sep15#action_item | |
| 03:19 | munin` | chris: Error: 'Organizing:Koha' is not a valid number of seconds. |
| 03:19 | chris | @news add #koha 0 Organizing:Koha Foundation polling begins 29 September 2009 http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]sep15#action_item |
| 03:19 | munin` | chris: (news add [<channel>] <expires> <subject>: <text>) -- Adds a given news item of <text> to a channel with the given <subject>. If <expires> isn't 0, that news item will expire <expires> seconds from now. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
| 03:19 | chris_n^2 | what's up with identify? |
| 03:19 | chris | @quote get 27 |
| 03:19 | munin` | chris: Quote #27: "<jdavidb> ("A helicopter does not fly; it is a collection of quasi-unrelated parts moving in close formation, beating the sky into submission.")" (added by gmcharlt at 09:21 PM, August 22, 2009) |
| 03:20 | chris | @quote get 24 |
| 03:20 | munin` | chris: Quote #24: "<kmkale> interesting word munin. in many indian languages we have a word munim who used to be a sort of accountant for all businessmen" (added by gmcharlt at 02:07 PM, August 07, 2009) |
| 03:20 | chris | hmm there is some quote that tells ya :) |
| 03:20 | @quote get 23 | |
| 03:20 | munin` | chris: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) |
| 03:20 | chris_n^2 | I thought I had already |
| 03:20 | chris | prolly different nickname |
| 03:20 | schuster: the feature will allow you do do "people who read this also read this" | |
| 03:21 | and generate reading lists for homebound borrowers, or rest homes etc | |
| 03:21 | @news add 0 Organizing:Koha Foundation polling begins 29 September 2009 http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]sep15#action_item | |
| 03:21 | munin` | chris: (news add [<channel>] <expires> <subject>: <text>) -- Adds a given news item of <text> to a channel with the given <subject>. If <expires> isn't 0, that news item will expire <expires> seconds from now. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
| 03:21 | chris | gah i give up |
| 03:22 | chris_n^2 | @news add 0 Organizing:Koha Foundation polling begins 29 September 2009 http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]sep15#action_item |
| 03:22 | munin` | chris_n^2: (news add [<channel>] <expires> <subject>: <text>) -- Adds a given news item of <text> to a channel with the given <subject>. If <expires> isn't 0, that news item will expire <expires> seconds from now. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
| 03:22 | chris_n^2 | @news add 0 Organizing: Koha Foundation polling begins 29 September 2009 http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]sep15#action_item |
| 03:22 | munin` | chris_n^2: The operation succeeded. (News item #1 added) |
| 03:22 | chris_n^2 | syntax++ |
| 03:23 | @news | |
| 03:23 | munin` | chris_n^2: News for #koha: (#1) Organizing; (#2) Organizing |
| 03:23 | chris | doh i just did it a private message ;) |
| 03:23 | chris_n^2 | @new get #1 |
| 03:23 | munin` | chris_n^2: I suck |
| 03:23 | chris_n^2 | @news help |
| 03:23 | munin` | chris_n^2: Error: 'help' is not a valid integer. |
| 03:23 | chris | @news 1 |
| 03:23 | munin` | chris: Koha Foundation polling begins 29 September 2009 http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]sep15#action_item (Subject: "Organizing", added by 12 on 03:22 AM, September 25, 2009) |
| 03:23 | chris_n^2 | @news 2 |
| 03:23 | munin` | chris_n^2: Koha Foundation polling begins 29 September 2009 http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]sep15#action_item (Subject: "Organizing", added by 3 on 03:22 AM, September 25, 2009) |
| 03:23 | chris | @remove 2 |
| 03:23 | munin` | chris: Error: The command "remove" is available in the Alias, Dunno, Herald, Lart, Later, News, Quote, and Todo plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "remove". |
| 03:23 | chris | @news remove 2 |
| 03:23 | munin` | chris: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:24 | chris | sorted |
| 03:24 | chris_n^2 | @news old |
| 03:24 | munin` | chris_n^2: No old news for #koha. |
| 03:24 | chris_n^2 | @misc |
| 03:24 | munin` | chris_n^2: I suck |
| 03:24 | chris_n^2 | @help misc |
| 03:24 | munin` | chris_n^2: Error: There is no command "misc". |
| 03:25 | chris_n^2 | @unix |
| 03:25 | munin` | chris_n^2: I suck |
| 03:25 | chris | @news old |
| 03:25 | munin` | chris: Old news for #koha: (#3) Facts |
| 03:25 | chris | @news 3 |
| 03:25 | munin` | chris: It's not open source until you release it (Subject: "Facts", added by chris on 03:24 AM, September 25, 2009, expires at 03:24 AM, September 25, 2009) |
| 03:25 | chris_n^2 | @list unix |
| 03:25 | munin` | chris_n^2: crypt, errno, fortune, pid, spell, and wtf |
| 03:25 | chris | small things amuse me, i like that that is now 'old news' |
| 03:26 | chris_n^2 | hehe |
| 03:26 | @unix spell | |
| 03:26 | munin` | chris_n^2: (unix spell <word>) -- Returns the result of passing <word> to aspell/ispell. The results shown are sorted from best to worst in terms of being a likely match for the spelling of <word>. |
| 03:26 | chris | ohh cool |
| 03:26 | @unix spell catalogue | |
| 03:26 | munin` | chris: Error: A spell checking command doesn't seem to be installed on this computer. If one is installed, reconfigure supybot.plugins.Unix.spell.command appropriately. |
| 03:26 | chris_n^2 | @unix spell oxymoron |
| 03:26 | munin` | chris_n^2: Error: A spell checking command doesn't seem to be installed on this computer. If one is installed, reconfigure supybot.plugins.Unix.spell.command appropriately. |
| 03:26 | chris_n^2 | opps |
| 03:27 | @unix crypt | |
| 03:27 | munin` | chris_n^2: (unix crypt <password> [<salt>]) -- Returns the resulting of doing a crypt() on <password> If <salt> is not given, uses a random salt. If running on a glibc2 system, prepending '$1$' to your salt will cause crypt to return an MD5sum based crypt rather than the standard DES based crypt. |
| 03:27 | chris_n^2 | @unix crypt supersecret |
| 03:27 | munin` | chris_n^2: Rn20kEq4ojNnk |
| 03:27 | chris_n^2 | @unix crypt $1$supersecret |
| 03:27 | munin` | chris_n^2: KJY22av9DfzrY |
| 03:27 | chris_n^2 | @unix pid |
| 03:28 | munin` | chris_n^2: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 03:28 | chris_n^2 | opps |
| 03:28 | @unix whoami | |
| 03:28 | munin` | chris_n^2: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 03:28 | chris_n^2 | heh |
| 03:29 | @list games | |
| 03:29 | munin` | chris_n^2: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette |
| 03:29 | chris_n^2 | @games coin |
| 03:29 | munin` | chris_n^2: tails |
| 03:29 | chris_n^2 | @games coin |
| 03:29 | munin` | chris_n^2: heads |
| 03:29 | chris_n^2 | @games coin |
| 03:29 | munin` | chris_n^2: tails |
| 03:29 | chris_n^2 | how boring |
| 03:29 | @games dice | |
| 03:29 | munin` | chris_n^2: (games dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice. |
| 03:29 | chris_n^2 | @games dice 12d12 |
| 03:29 | munin` | chris_n^2: Error: You can't roll more than 6 dice. |
| 03:29 | chris_n^2 | @games dice 10d10 |
| 03:29 | munin` | chris_n^2: Error: You can't roll more than 6 dice. |
| 03:30 | chris_n^2 | @games dice 2d6 |
| 03:30 | munin` | chris_n^2: 1 and 1 |
| 03:30 | chris_n^2 | snake-eyes |
| 03:30 | * chris_n^2 | heads to bed |
| 03:30 | chris_n^2 | g'night |
| 03:30 | chris_n^2 is now known as chris_n2-away | |
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| 03:35 | Amit | hi chris, richard, brendan |
| 03:35 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:36 | richard | yo Amit |
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| 03:36 | Amit | richard: Long weekend is coming here |
| 03:37 | richard | ice |
| 03:37 | nice even | |
| 03:37 | Amit | richard: Dussehra here is in india on 28 sep |
| 03:37 | Dussehra festival | |
| 04:46 | rach | where in india are you amit? |
| 05:05 | Amit | hi rach |
| 05:05 | rach: i m in Bangalore | |
| 05:27 | richard | now i'm off home to get psyched up for the panthers vs dogs game |
| 05:27 | oops | |
| 05:27 | wrong channel | |
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| 05:41 | Ropuch | Morning, #koha |
| 05:41 | Amit | hi ropuch |
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| 06:16 | nicomo | morning Koha |
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| 06:19 | Amit | hi nicomo |
| 06:19 | nicomo | hi Amit |
| 06:19 | hi magnusenger | |
| 06:20 | magnusenger | hi nicomo and #koha |
| 06:20 | Amit | hi magnusenger |
| 06:21 | magnusenger | hiya Amit |
| 06:39 | * rach | is contemplating a trip to guntur at christmas (which is near-ish to hyderabad) |
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| 07:12 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 09:43 | Amit | hi fredercid, hdl |
| 10:33 | nicomo | chris still around? |
| 10:33 | chris | yep |
| 10:34 | for a few more minutes anyway | |
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| 11:46 | Amit | hi jwagner, jdavidb |
| 11:47 | jdavidb | Good morning, Amit! :) |
| 11:47 | kf | hi Amit and jdavidb |
| 11:47 | jdavidb | Hi, kf! :) |
| 11:47 | Amit | have a nice weekend for all |
| 11:48 | kf | jdavidb: still working on visibility of serial enumeration column and others - to make it look like on opac-detail |
| 11:48 | hdl_laptop | hi all |
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| 11:48 | kf | hi hdl_laptop |
| 11:49 | hdl_laptop | kf Are you uniformizing the whole display for serials everywhere ? |
| 11:52 | kf | hdl_laptop: no - not able to do that |
| 11:52 | hdl_laptop: I started adding serial enumeration to opac-reserve for item level holds | |
| 11:53 | hdl_laptop: and I noticed that its different than opac-detail, where some columns are only shown when needed, like notes | |
| 11:53 | and serial enumeration | |
| 11:56 | hdl_laptop: dont know much perl, but I want to learn it and I thought this would be a good start to do something we need and perhaps make it a little better. | |
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| 12:01 | jwagner | Morning, everyone. |
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| 12:30 | chris_n | g'morning owen, jwagner, #koha |
| 12:30 | jwagner | Morning, chris_n |
| 12:36 | owen | Hi all |
| 12:36 | hdl_laptop | hi owen |
| 12:48 | * owen | is intrigued and perplexed by the report of an unknown yellow box |
| 12:48 | Hurricane left #koha | |
| 12:50 | hdl_laptop | ? which one ? |
| 12:52 | owen | On the Koha mailing list |
| 12:53 | "Help! An unknown yellow box" | |
| 12:56 | jwagner | We saw that unknown yellow box during development of some of our features -- things that required overrides -- but since our code isn't out there yet, it's not the culprit in this case. |
| 12:56 | (Thank goodness!) | |
| 12:56 | It's definitely related to the need for some kind of override -- too many $$ in fines, item is on hold for someone else, etc. | |
| 12:58 | owen | I guess it must be a case where NEEDSCONFIRMATION or IMPOSSIBLE are true but no message is defined for that condition |
| 12:59 | Colin | Thats how I managed to generate it! |
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| 13:02 | owen | Hi Hurricane |
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| 13:03 | owen | Bye Hurricane. |
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| 13:09 | owen | Heh... I think we need to update the OPAC to take renewal overrides into account: |
| 13:10 | "(-2 of 2 renewals remaining)" | |
| 13:13 | Is now bug 3666 | |
| 13:13 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3666 normal, P5, ---, jmfliblime.com, NEW, Overriding renewal limit results in negative count in OPAC display |
| 13:13 | owen | Colin: You added the new patron messages feature? |
| 13:14 | Colin | I did but jwagner is the expert on what its like in practice |
| 13:15 | owen | I'm looking at it for the first time this morning. |
| 13:15 | I wonder if we shouldn't merge the message boxes on the OPAC when both types of message are present? | |
| 13:16 | Where there are two one is above the "Hello <user>" heading and the other is below. Looks weird. | |
| 13:17 | Colin | True. Could be very weird |
| 13:18 | owen | I'll submit a patch if you're okay with that change. I'm open to suggestions for how the two kinds of messages should be labeled differently |
| 13:20 | Colin | Yes. Gives folk a chance to make suggestions |
| 13:24 | jwagner | owen, I'm fine with merging the two in the OPAC display. We didn't have too many existing patron notes in our test/production data sets, so it never got to be a priority to change that piece. |
| 13:25 | owen | I'm really happy to see the feature. I've been wishing for that for a long time. |
| 13:26 | In fact I wonder if there is a reason to continue to use the old OPAC notes mechanism at all | |
| 13:26 | Maybe we should just do away with that part of it? | |
| 13:27 | jwagner | owen, when I started looking at the feature, the distinction I saw between the new messaging feature and the existing circ/opac notes was a question of "permanent" notes. This might not be as much of an issue for opac notes, but it was for circ notes. There's notes you don't ever want to overwrite, like "child has parent's permission for X". So the new feature and the circ notes are both needed, but I don't know if anyone has an equivalent need for "p |
| 13:28 | owen | Yeah, I agree. The circ screen would have a need for more permanent notes |
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| 13:35 | jwagner | owen, maybe add a bugzilla (or update the one on this feature) to see if anyone is using "permanent" opac notes? If no one has a major need, then I'd be happy with getting rid of them altogether. |
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| 13:48 | Colin | I would have thought that the nature of opac notes tends away from permanence. They are more messages. |
| 13:53 | owen | chris_n: if my label item search problem was related to corrupt data, would it happen with a freshly-added record? |
| 13:59 | "Big GPL copyright enforcement win in Paris Court of Appeals" | |
| 13:59 | http://arstechnica.com/open-so[…]rt-of-appeals.ars | |
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| 14:29 | owen | Hi ChrisH |
| 14:31 | Oh, new messaging system shows the branch where the message was left. Nice! | |
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| 14:35 | jwagner | Someone confirm -- build_holds_queue.pl is used for on-shelf holds. Is that correct? |
| 14:35 | owen | It builds the holds queue report, which shows the librarian a list of items to be pulled off the shelf to fulfill holds requests |
| 14:36 | So yes. | |
| 14:36 | jwagner | That's what I thought, thanks. |
| 14:36 | owen | jwagner: Do you know what the bug number was for your messaging enhancements? |
| 14:38 | jwagner | owen, Bug 3472 |
| 14:38 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3472 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Enhanced borrower notes |
| 14:38 | owen | Thanks. |
| 14:47 | kf | owen: you left your 2-year-old in the library? :) |
| 14:48 | owen | it's okay, they have a drinking fountain and everything ;) |
| 14:48 | kf | :D |
| 14:50 | jwagner | But do they have someone to change diapers???? |
| 14:50 | owen | Sheesh, didn't those people go to library school? |
| 14:51 | jwagner | I didn't :-) Neither did I go to kid school :-) |
| 14:57 | owen | Hmmm... after adding 2 messages to a patron record I only see one [Delete] link. |
| 14:59 | chris_n | owen: I would think not |
| 14:59 | owen: I asked chris if he ran into that issue when testing labels code and he said he did not | |
| 15:00 | jwagner | owen, there should be a Delete link after each message. Isn't there? |
| 15:00 | owen | No, only next to the top one |
| 15:00 | chris_n | owen: I'll be in and out much of the day, but will keep tabs on irc when I'm in |
| 15:02 | owen | jwagner: I'm adding more messages now |
| 15:02 | Both "staff" messages have a delete link | |
| 15:02 | And the new opac message I added has the link | |
| 15:03 | Seems only the last one in the list lacks the delete link | |
| 15:04 | jwagner | Hmmm. I just tested on a plain-vanilla system with latest Koha (so it's the standard code not our devel), and I'm seeing delete links on all messages I add. |
| 15:05 | owen | I'll empty the messages table and try again |
| 15:06 | Ah wait, never mind | |
| 15:06 | It has to do with the branch, doesn't it? | |
| 15:06 | jwagner | Probably. I did most of my testing on a single branch system, but it would make sense that staff at branch A can't delete messages created by staff at branch B. |
| 15:06 | owen | I can't delete a message made at another branch. |
| 15:07 | jwagner | But if you log in as a staff user for that branch, can you? |
| 15:07 | owen | Yes |
| 15:07 | jwagner | Incidentally, I updated the bug report with the question about removing the old opac notes field -- let's see if anyone uses it. |
| 15:14 | owen | I take it there isn't a new granular permission for deleting messages? |
| 15:14 | If I'm logged in as a superlibrarian I would think I should be able to delete another branch's message | |
| 15:15 | I see references to "can_delete" and "all_messages_del" | |
| 15:15 | jwagner | Not specific to that, no. We've done a lot of new granulars (haven't submitted them yet but see Bug 3500 ), but different developers worked on the pieces. It would probably be useful to add that into superlibrarian privileges. |
| 15:15 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3500 enhancement, P5, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, New Circulation, patron, fines, other granular permissions |
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| 15:28 | owen | jwagner: Should Bug 3500 be assigned to you, or maybe Colin? Since it's PTFS's enhancement I don't think chris is the right assignee |
| 15:28 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3500 enhancement, P5, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, New Circulation, patron, fines, other granular permissions |
| 15:30 | jwagner | owen, sorry -- when I created all the new bug reports for our features I forgot to do assignments on a bunch of them. I've been meaning to go back and set those, but haven't gotten around to it yet. If you want to, you can use the generic kohaprogrammersptfs.com address for assignment. We discussed that with Galen a while back, and that's what I've been using when I do assign things. |
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| 15:32 | nengard | help!!! suffering from open source writer's block - this is not good!! |
| 15:34 | owen | Will talking about Koha bugs help? |
| 15:37 | kf | hm perhaps go and play with some open source apps to get inspiration? |
| 15:38 | nengard | owen trying that |
| 15:38 | kf - tried that | |
| 15:38 | I think it's just that all the negativity recently has sucked me dry of positive inspiration | |
| 15:39 | kf | hm thats a difficult case then |
| 15:40 | nengard | yeah |
| 15:40 | i'm working on it | |
| 15:40 | just wanted to rant a little | |
| 15:40 | owen | Then you came to the right place. |
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| 15:50 | * jdavidb | grumbles and rants incoherently. |
| 15:50 | * kf | playing with photoshop :) |
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| 16:01 | chris_n | nengard++ # for doing a great job in general ;-) |
| 16:01 | nengard | awwww - thank you :) |
| 16:17 | jwagner | *sniff* I'm feeling neglected now :-( |
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| 16:25 | owen-away is now known as owen | |
| 16:30 | kf | jwagner++ for nice screenshots |
| 16:30 | ;) | |
| 16:31 | mh, want to change the background color of cart button, but cant find it in css :( | |
| 16:31 | owen | That's a complicated one |
| 16:32 | You want to set the background color on #cartmenulink | |
| 16:32 | kf | will try, thx owen |
| 16:32 | :) | |
| 16:35 | owen | I think there's more, let me check |
| 16:36 | Yeah, you also want to set a background color for #cartmenulink:hover | |
| 16:37 | http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=217 | |
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| 16:43 | kf | owen: thx :) |
| 16:53 | hm, when I hover the background color changes now, but there is something like a border appearing around the cart image | |
| 17:01 | owen | kf, do you mean the small image of the shopping cart? |
| 17:02 | kf | owen: yes |
| 17:02 | something like a dark border top and left when hovering | |
| 17:06 | jwagner | kf, thanks. Now I feel better :-) |
| 17:07 | kf | :) |
| 17:11 | owen++ :) | |
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| 17:13 | owen | Hi schuster |
| 17:14 | schuster | Hey... Any luck on a patch for the transfer issue? |
| 17:14 | owen | Hardly any luck getting a response. |
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| 17:21 | kf | ie-- |
| 17:21 | catalog looks terrible in ie with my css changes :( | |
| 17:22 | ah, I know why - https and images are on another server | |
| 17:22 | owen | ie-- in general |
| 17:24 | jwagner | Microsft-- in general |
| 17:25 | Microsoft-- as well (spelling? Who needs spelling???) | |
| 17:25 | kf | :) |
| 17:26 | ok, time to leave work - 7:25 | |
| 17:28 | owen | My favorite derogatory misspelling of Microsoft is MICROS~1. |
| 17:28 | kf | mh, hope I packed the light for my bike |
| 17:29 | @karma ie | |
| 17:29 | munin` | kf: Karma for "ie" has been increased 0 times and decreased 7 times for a total karma of -7. |
| 17:29 | kf | ie-- |
| 17:29 | bye owen, jwagner and #koha | |
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| 17:42 | pianohacker | hello koha |
| 17:43 | owen | Hi pianohacker |
| 17:44 | How's the hand? | |
| 17:44 | pianohacker | hey |
| 17:44 | alright. I'll be healing for six weeks, so I'd better get used to this splint | |
| 17:45 | btw, gmcharlt asked me to resolve some patch conflicts on sysprefs; your patch isn't in yet, but it will be | |
| 17:46 | owen | Thanks |
| 17:51 | pianohacker | sorry, school has been pushing a lot of other things to the side |
| 17:53 | owen | Sure, lately I've been having to steal my Koha time too |
| 17:56 | pianohacker | speaking of which, how are the kids? |
| 17:59 | owen | They're good. Quite often. |
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| 18:00 | owen | I'm anxious for my middle child to be old enough to be able to sit through a whole movie. He only lasted through Ponyo until the snacks ran out. |
| 18:00 | (he's not quite 3) | |
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| 18:25 | mdhafen | pianohacker: Hello again. Good news is I haven't seen a single timeout today. Switching session storage to disk seems to have done it. |
| 18:25 | Now the question is why wasn't the database session storage working. Was it not able to keep up? | |
| 18:26 | pianohacker | mdhafen: hard to say. I'd open a bug |
| 18:27 | mdhafen | Yeah, maybe I should do that. I don't really want to if I'm the only one effected. Maybe I'll post to the dev list first to see if this has happened to anyone else. |
| 18:29 | quick check of the bug database doesn't turn up anything. | |
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| 18:51 | jdavidb | Howdy, brendan! |
| 18:51 | @quote random | |
| 18:51 | munin` | jdavidb: Quote #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)" (added by chris at 07:59 PM, June 23, 2009) |
| 18:51 | brendan | hey jdavidb |
| 18:52 | pianohacker | ahh, the days when I could be so verbose |
| 18:52 | hi brendan, jdavidb | |
| 18:52 | brendan | excellent weekend -- coming up |
| 18:52 | jdavidb | Quick, everyone! Ask pianohacker hard questions that will cause him to have to type all day. |
| 18:52 | brendan | what's the meaning of life ? |
| 18:52 | pianohacker | 42 |
| 18:52 | brendan | nice |
| 18:53 | glad you got that one | |
| 18:53 | pianohacker | hehe |
| 18:53 | jdavidb | Define the universe; give three examples. |
| 18:53 | brendan | what's the question |
| 18:53 | Ropuch | Evening, #koha |
| 18:53 | pianohacker | How many slices of pizza? |
| 18:54 | * jdavidb | hands pianohacker a spoon, a spool of wire, and a Perl book. How would you use these objects to construct a supercomputer? |
| 18:55 | pianohacker | first, burn the perl book |
| 18:55 | cait_laptop | good evening :) |
| 18:55 | pianohacker | hi cait |
| 18:55 | how are you? | |
| 18:56 | cait_laptop | im fine thx, and you? |
| 18:56 | jdavidb | watches pianohacker fail the test! http://xkcd.com/224/ The gods wrought the universe in Perl! |
| 18:56 | Hi, cait. :) | |
| 18:56 | pianohacker | hehe |
| 18:57 | cait_laptop | hi jdadivb |
| 18:58 | brendan | "hacked most of it together with perl" |
| 18:58 | cait_laptop | hm. I installed eclipse with epic, because I used eclipse in my distance study for java... but not sure if this was a good idea. what do you use for koha dev? |
| 18:58 | brendan | hehe |
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| 18:58 | jdavidb | cait: vi? |
| 18:58 | pianohacker | cait_laptop: gvim and bailing wire |
| 19:01 | cait_laptop | ok, but vi is too hard |
| 19:02 | jdavidb | I used to think that too, cait...now, I'm trying to enter vi commands when editing outlook e-mails. |
| 19:03 | Ropuch | ;> |
| 19:03 | cait_laptop | :) my boss uses vi all the time, I can change files but I like my mouse too |
| 19:03 | Ropuch | Actually gedit & geany are pretty good too |
| 19:05 | I remeber serie of "pimp your gedit to look & act like textmate" ;> | |
| 19:07 | cait_laptop | thx everybody :) |
| 19:11 | chris_n | @quote add <pianohacker> first, burn the perl book |
| 19:11 | munin` | chris_n: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 19:12 | jdavidb | Definitely quote-worthy, chris_n. |
| 19:12 | * chris_n | grumbles as munin tells him he doesn't know his password >:( |
| 19:13 | jdavidb | @quote add <pianohacker> first, burn the perl book |
| 19:13 | munin` | jdavidb: The operation succeeded. Quote #36 added. |
| 19:13 | chris_n is now known as chris_n^2 | |
| 19:13 | * chris_n^2 | fixes munin's little red wagon |
| 19:13 | * jdavidb | sings, "It's hip to be squared!" then blinks, thinking he has something not quite right... |
| 19:14 | * wizzyrea | giggles at jdavidb |
| 19:14 | wizzyrea | @quote get 23 |
| 19:14 | munin` | wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) |
| 19:14 | * jdavidb | wondered if wizzyrea was on vacation or sompin! |
| 19:15 | jdavidb | Hi, Liz! Missed you lately. |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | oh hai! |
| 19:15 | yea, was out in a library yesterday fixing printers, and was in a web work day this morning | |
| 19:15 | wherein www.ottawalibrary.org got redone | |
| 19:17 | owen | Hi wizzyrea . Is there an up to date release of Event Calendar now? I was using that on a WordPress site until a recent upgrade. |
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| 19:20 | * owen | does not recall registering a password with munin, but munin thinks he did |
| 19:22 | jdavidb | @karma munin |
| 19:22 | munin` | jdavidb: Karma for "munin" has been increased 2 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 1. |
| 19:22 | jdavidb | munin-- #for being obtuse. |
| 19:27 | owen | friday++ for being done. For me anyway :) |
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| 19:34 | wizzyrea | hmm. I don't think so, this is an older version of WP (i know. I KNOW.) |
| 19:35 | i'll be sad if event calendar goes bye bye | |
| 19:35 | * wizzyrea | now has to go look that up. it's a popular plugin :( |
| 19:35 | chris | morning |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | owen I have the same problem with munin |
| 19:35 | bah | |
| 19:35 | mornin chris ;) | |
| 19:35 | happy saturday! | |
| 19:36 | chris_n^2 | howdy chris |
| 19:36 | jwagner | morning chris |
| 19:37 | jdavidb | Hi, chris! :) |
| 19:37 | chris | http://tepapa.govt.nz/WhatsOn/[…]CultureDay09.aspx <-- taking the kids to this today |
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| 19:39 | cait_laptop | morning chris |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | wowiee, that looks fun chris |
| 19:46 | chris | yep |
| 19:46 | should be good | |
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| 19:53 | wizzyrea | man, this day is ending soon right? |
| 19:54 | chris | hehe it just started for me |
| 19:55 | * chris_n^2 | wants chris to tell him what Saturday will be like ;-) |
| 19:55 | chris_n^2 is now known as chris_n | |
| 19:56 | chris_n | wizzyrea we may not want Friday to be over depending |
| 19:57 | chris | so far so good |
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| 20:04 | chris | hey nengard |
| 20:04 | nengard | hiya chris |
| 20:15 | * ebegin | hates PDF::Reuse... grrr |
| 20:15 | ebegin | Hi all, btw ;) |
| 20:16 | nengard, are you learning french now? | |
| 20:16 | nengard | ebegin hehe - nope |
| 20:16 | i have never ever been good with languages | |
| 20:16 | i wish that my schools required us to learn languages when we still learning english | |
| 20:17 | ebegin | You shouldn't blame the school anymore ;) |
| 20:17 | chris | hey ebegin :) |
| 20:17 | ebegin | hey chris! |
| 20:18 | Do you know if the new label system will stil use PDF::Reuse (please say no, please say no)... | |
| 20:18 | Please say yes you no, and no it wont ;) | |
| 20:18 | ...yes you know... | |
| 20:19 | chris | you need to ask chris_n |
| 20:19 | :) | |
| 20:19 | ebegin | chris_n, around? |
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| 20:22 | chris | looks like it does, but uses it properly this time |
| 20:23 | ebegin | AFAIK, PDF::Reuse doesn't support diacritics... |
| 20:23 | Unless I'm missing something. | |
| 20:26 | chris | i dont know im afraid |
| 20:26 | ebegin | you don' |
| 20:27 | you don't have to be afraid chris :) Not your fault | |
| 20:30 | brendan | geeze -- one more email in my inbox and I've hit 10,000 unread emails :) |
| 20:31 | too much spam and too many mailing lists -- If I'm going to read it -- it best be a good subject :) | |
| 20:33 | nengard | holy cow brendan |
| 20:33 | i'm shocked that you actually reply to my emails ;) hehe | |
| 20:34 | brendan | I also read the messages of those I know :) |
| 20:34 | not that bad -- was on a bunch of silly mailing lists that really filled it up quickly -- like homebrewers, mazdamailinglist, etc. | |
| 20:35 | ebegin | brenda... Message Filters are you friends |
| 20:36 | I'm creating a folder for each mailing lists. | |
| 20:37 | nengard | yeah - i too have a whole bunch of filters and folders |
| 20:38 | ebegin | another trick is to be quick on the Delete mail button. If you have 10 000 unread email at the moment, you'll have another 10 000 before you'll read them. So no need to keep them... |
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| 20:50 | chris | :) |
| 20:56 | brendan | I agree -- time to archive it all -- then read it when I'm 64 :) |
| 20:56 | when I have the time to do more brewing | |
| 21:03 | ebegin | I hope you'll brew before reading you email. Priority first :) |
| 21:08 | nicomo | well everyone I don't think I wrote anything here beyond "morning" this morning, but it's now 11:07pm and it's... the week-end. Yeeeaahh. See you monday |
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| 21:24 | pianohacker | bye |
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| 21:24 | chris | hi indradg |
| 21:25 | indradg | chris, hi |
| 21:33 | * chris | heads out for the day |
| 21:41 | * cait_laptop | goes to bed - good night :) |
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