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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | pianohacker | holy cow |
| 00:02 | something must be wrong with the data collection, though | |
| 00:39 | Jo joined #koha | |
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| 01:06 | chris_n^2 | chris: did you say someone there was using G::M? |
| 01:08 | chris | yup |
| 01:09 | for http://www.mags4gifts.co.nz/ | |
| 01:11 | chris_n^2 | chris: it appears that G::M cannot be coerced to read from strings rather than from files |
| 01:11 | chris | ahhh |
| 01:11 | chris_n^2 | it does read from file handles |
| 01:11 | but opening a string as a file handle causes G::M to segfault | |
| 01:11 | chris | dang |
| 01:12 | chris_n^2 | when reading from the fh that is |
| 01:12 | hard to believe that such a nice package would lack that ability | |
| 01:12 | I did post to their list in case there is something I've missed | |
| 01:13 | chris | cool |
| 01:15 | * chris_n^2 | finds it interesting that "Cuisine" is at the top of the magazine list :-) |
| 01:17 | chris | heh |
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| 01:32 | chris | wb brendan |
| 01:39 | chris_n^2 | boy did I miss the call on G::M |
| 01:39 | http://www.graphicsmagick.org/perl.html#id13 | |
| 01:40 | * chris_n^2 | hides under his desk |
| 01:59 | brendan | chris -- chris_n^2 |
| 02:00 | good evening chrises | |
| 02:00 | chris | heh, night |
| 02:01 | chris_n^2 | goodnight brendan |
| 02:01 | brendan | night chris_n62 |
| 02:01 | ah - you get the idea :) | |
| 02:02 | chris_n^2 | lol :-) |
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| 02:08 | chris | hiya ebegin |
| 02:09 | ebegin | Hey! how are you all? |
| 02:11 | chris | good thanks, hows canada? |
| 02:11 | ebegin | Does anyone know why I could have 2 instances of zebrasrv start when I'm calling /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start? |
| 02:12 | Chris: Canada is ok I guess :) | |
| 02:12 | chris | you already have one running? |
| 02:12 | ebegin | nop |
| 02:12 | chris | weird |
| 02:12 | * ebegin | just spent 2 weeks in California and looooooved it! |
| 02:12 | chris | cool :) |
| 02:13 | ebegin | sometime, I even have 3 instances |
| 02:13 | chris | hmmm |
| 02:14 | i havent seen that happen before | |
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| 02:45 | CGI079 | Hello - I'm installing 3.00.03 on Mac OS X 10.5.8. I'm following the instructions here: http://koha.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi |
| 02:46 | ebegin | Those are nice instructions ;) |
| 02:46 | CGI079 | sorry - that should be following instructions here: http://www.news.software.coop/[…]n-macos-x-105/13/ |
| 02:46 | :) | |
| 02:46 | (it's been a long night!) | |
| 02:47 | This is the third time I've tried this - trying to go slowly and get it right. A challenge. | |
| 02:48 | I am having a tough time with the idzebra install - using Fink... I wonder if anyone might be able to help? | |
| 02:48 | * chris | isnt a mac user sorry :( |
| 02:48 | CGI079 | yes - they seem sort of rare in the Koha world so far. |
| 02:49 | chris | *nod* most of us use floss |
| 02:49 | @seen slef | |
| 02:49 | munin` | chris: slef was last seen in #koha 1 day, 9 hours, 34 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <slef> oic - should have guessed that |
| 02:49 | ebegin | this doc was written by mj, right? |
| 02:49 | chris | slef is who wrote that blog post, but it is about 3am for him |
| 02:49 | yep | |
| 02:50 | CGI079 | And I didn't even know what floss stood for until I looked it up just now |
| 02:50 | :D | |
| 02:51 | ebegin | Do you have any error message? |
| 02:52 | CGI079 | I do - but I am guessing that it's specific to my install. The idzebra install fails with "mv: rename /sw/src/fink.build/root-idzebra-2.0.41-1/sw/lib/libidzebra-2.0.0.0.1.dylib to /sw/src/fink.build/root-idzebra-shlibs-2.0.41-1/sw/lib/libidzebra-2.0.0.0.1.dylib: No such file or directory" |
| 02:53 | The /sw directory is because I'm using Fink | |
| 02:53 | so I thought I'd build idzebra myself | |
| 02:55 | but Mac OS X does't have a /usr/local/bin directory, and while I could of course create it, I felt that by then I'd be so far off the instructions I was following that it would be better to figure out why the Fink install was failing instead - since I only sorta kinda know what I'm doing. | |
| 02:57 | I'd love to get it to work and then rewrite those instructions I have, rewritten so that someone like me could follow them... | |
| 02:57 | chris | that would be great |
| 02:57 | ebegin | does this file exists? |
| 02:57 | /sw/src/fink.build/root-idzebra-2.0.41-1/sw/lib/libidzebra-2.0.0.0.1.dylib | |
| 02:57 | chris | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=osx&s[]=osx |
| 02:58 | thats way old and out of date | |
| 02:58 | but fixing it would be great | |
| 02:58 | CGI079 | yes, it is :) |
| 02:58 | when I finally get this working I will be happy to add to that | |
| 02:58 | chris | cool |
| 02:58 | CGI079 | I did drill down and see how much of tha path existed - let me check again |
| 03:01 | yes, it does exist | |
| 03:01 | chris | http://zebra.darwinports.com/ |
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| 03:01 | chris | i wonder if this is a better path? |
| 03:02 | Amit | hi chris, brendan |
| 03:02 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:03 | CGI079 | yes, I saw that myself - but I was reluctant to go down the darwinports path, having instructions using Fink - they seem to be two different camps - put things in different places, etc. |
| 03:04 | But perhaps, having failed with Fink 3 times now, that makes sense. | |
| 03:04 | It's not clear to me, if I install some components using Fink, and others using Darwin Ports, if the path will "know" where all the bits are... | |
| 03:05 | or rather, if all the bits will be added to the parth | |
| 03:05 | path | |
| 03:06 | chris | yeah, not sure about that |
| 03:07 | CGI079 | thank you for listening - it helps to sort it out in my head! |
| 03:08 | chris | np good luck |
| 03:08 | CGI079 | I have one more question if I may... |
| 03:08 | on an earlier attempt, I got to the CPAN section... | |
| 03:08 | and ran into this situation where CPAN kept telling me that it wasn't up to date, an update could be done easily, etc. etc. | |
| 03:09 | brendan | hi amit |
| 03:09 | CGI079 | but the CPAN self update failed - due to some recursive dependencies (if that's the right phrase) |
| 03:10 | and I read elsewhere that it was recommended not to use CPAN to update itself - sound familiar? A big deal? | |
| 03:12 | ebegin | Hey amit! |
| 03:12 | Amit | heya ebegin |
| 03:17 | CGI079 | well, on a closer look, I see that the file ebegin was asking about libidzebra-2.0.0.0.1.dylib does not exist. libidzebra-2.0.0.dylib does. But missing the .0.1 |
| 03:17 | might be a mis configured fink.info file. | |
| 03:18 | the file in the instructions I am following installs version 2.0.22 of idzebra - current version is 2.0.41 | |
| 03:18 | ebegin | That may be part of your problem... Maybe the doc was done before 2.0.0.0.1 |
| 03:18 | CGI079 | OK to go with the 2.0.22 version? |
| 03:22 | ebegin | yep... at least on linux... |
| 03:24 | CGI079 | cool. Thanks. Now here's a though - I'd like to tough this out on OS X - but if I were to take an old box and install linux, is there a feeling that's its better to go with Debian, Ubuntu, or something else? |
| 03:24 | chris | 3/ws 38 |
| 03:25 | heh, typing fail | |
| 03:29 | * ebegin | likes Debian |
| 03:29 | chris | ditto |
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| 03:32 | chris | hi hugo |
| 03:32 | hugo | hi - I was CGI079 - just installed a real IRC client |
| 03:33 | chris | ah :) |
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| 03:33 | hugo | funny - been using a computer for work since 1989. Some things take a while to get to... :D |
| 03:34 | well, thank you Chris and ebegin for your input | |
| 03:34 | I'll keep working on this little mac and see what I can do - I've got 6 weeks to get it working | |
| 03:34 | chris_n^2 | g'night koha |
| 03:34 | chris_n^2 is now known as chris_n2-away | |
| 03:35 | hugo | Goodnight |
| 03:35 | ebegin | hugo, slef is the one to look for here :) |
| 03:35 | Good night! | |
| 03:36 | chris | night |
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| 03:41 | ebegin | Hey chris, what are the latest news about the KohaCon 2010? |
| 03:41 | chris | the latest news is i have to work on it more :) but it is looking like november |
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| 04:17 | Amit | chris: India No.1 in ICC Ranking |
| 04:19 | chris | :) |
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| 05:56 | brendan | Night #koha -- have an excellent day, evening, whatever :) |
| 05:58 | Ropuch | Morning, everybody |
| 05:58 | ;> | |
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| 06:22 | richard | back again |
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| 06:35 | pianohacker | good night |
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| 06:43 | chris | hi nicomo |
| 06:43 | nicomo | hi chris |
| 06:43 | hello everyone | |
| 06:44 | Ropuch | hi nicomo, chris |
| 06:45 | chris | hi Ropuch |
| 06:54 | magnusenger | hi everyone - nicomo: i'll send an e-mail your way shortly |
| 06:55 | nicomo | hi magnusenger |
| 06:55 | chris | hi magnusenger |
| 06:55 | magnusenger | hi chris |
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| 07:19 | Amit | hi nahuel ;) |
| 07:32 | hdl_laptop | hi all |
| 07:33 | Amit | hi hdl |
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| 07:40 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:48 | Amit | hi kf ;) |
| 07:50 | kf | hi Amit |
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| 09:44 | |Lupin| | hi there |
| 09:45 | kf | hi |Lupin| |
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| 10:01 | |Lupin| | guten morgen k |
| 10:01 | guten morgen kf | |
| 10:07 | gmcharlt: around ? | |
| 10:07 | gmcharlt | hi |Lupin| |
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| 10:13 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: hi |
| 10:13 | gmcharlt: there is a bug inthe GetCcodes function in C4/Koha.pl | |
| 10:13 | gmcharlt: it returns an array containing undef at position 0 | |
| 10:14 | gmcharlt: I'm willing to fix this but I'm wondering how you'd like that to be done | |
| 10:15 | gmcharlt | |Lupin|: remove the first return ($count) and just return the array |
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| 10:15 | gmcharlt | it means that users of GetCcodes would have to get the count (if they need) by looking at scalar(@results) |
| 10:15 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: it's not only that the problem |
| 10:16 | gmcharlt | but that's fine - getting the size of arrays in Perl is a cheap operation, and there's no need for API calls to return both an array (or arrayref) and a count |
| 10:16 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: look at the code: the counter is incremented _before_ the value is stored, that's why the first position of the list is empty, even once you have removed the useless size... |
| 10:18 | gmcharlt | remove the counter outright, and the problem goes away :) |
| 10:19 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: yeah I certainly agree. What I'm saying is that there are two things: (1) the function returns an array and its size which is useless and (2) the return array contains an undefined cell because lines 295 and 296 of C4/Koha.pm appear in the wrong order. |
| 10:20 | gmcharlt | ah, right |
| 10:20 | but rewriting the query so that it's | |
| 10:20 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: ah I got it. yeah if the function doesn't use a counter at all and just pushes onto the array it will work just fine. |
| 10:21 | gmcharlt: yeah the query is poorly written | |
| 10:21 | gmcharlt | SELECT * FROM authorised_values WHERE catagory = 'CCODE' ORDER BY authorized_value |
| 10:21 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: it should have a where category='CCODE' clause |
| 10:21 | gmcharlt | will also remove the unecessary test |
| 10:21 | yep | |
| 10:22 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: actually it was even suggested to completely remove this function because there are more general functions to fetch authorised values... that's why I wanted to know how you'd like this to be fixed... |
| 10:23 | gmcharlt | GetAuthorisedValues |
| 10:23 | for example | |
| 10:23 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: actually at the beginning I thought you meant not _return_ the counter, and then I realised you meant not using it at all, that was the misunderstanding I think. |
| 10:23 | gmcharlt | correct - don't use it, don't return it |
| 10:23 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: yes, for example... so what to do ? just fix the function or remove it completely ? |
| 10:24 | gmcharlt | remove it completely |
| 10:24 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: ok ! |
| 10:24 | gmcharlt | misc/cronjobs/stats/monthly_circulation_statistics.pl is the only script activiely using it, although it's mentioned but commented out from opac/opac-search.pl |
| 10:24 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: I'll submit a patch that does so, then |
| 10:25 | gmcharlt: yeah, I think I can grep and check everything... | |
| 10:56 | hdl_laptop | hi gm |
| 10:56 | hi everybody in fact | |
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| 11:50 | |Lupin| | bye everybody |
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| 11:57 | chris_n | g'morning |
| 11:57 | jdavidb | Mornin', chris_n |
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| 12:32 | jwagner | Good morning, all. |
| 12:32 | * chris_n | greets jwagner |
| 12:34 | jwagner | Can someone refresh my memory on the patron Street Number field? I seem to remember that the separate street number (as opposed to the address field) is used primarily in European libraries. Is that correct? One of my sites wants to hide street number so as to force staff to use address. I'm wondering if a syspref & patch to turn it on/off would be of general use. |
| 12:35 | kf | cant speak for european librares in general, but we import street number together with the street |
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| 12:35 | kf | I will use jquery from owen to hide fields in patron data that we will not use |
| 12:36 | jwagner | That's a thought. |
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| 12:43 | hdl_laptop | kf: jwagner this is i think owed to the french normalization of adress. |
| 12:44 | jwagner | I thought I remembered something about it being European. |
| 12:45 | hdl_laptop | could be. |
| 12:45 | kf | but should street number not be available for all addresses in this case? |
| 12:45 | jwagner | Would a syspref to turn street number on/off be useful for other sites? |
| 12:45 | hdl_laptop | YASP Yet another Syspref.... |
| 12:45 | chris_n | hehe |
| 12:45 | jwagner | kf, I'm not talking about removing it from the table, just from the patron edit screen. |
| 12:46 | Yes, those sysprefs breed like mice, don't they??? | |
| 12:46 | hdl_laptop | I created a sys pref that would be used as BorrowerUnused fields in template generation. |
| 12:46 | kf | I think the new editor will help |
| 12:46 | cant do without them, but perhaps organize them better? | |
| 12:46 | jwagner | hdl_laptop, that would be a really useful syspref -- have you submitted it yet? Haven't seen it. |
| 12:46 | hdl_laptop | Or this would boil down to creating framewors for input data. |
| 12:47 | kf | I think its a great idea, a list of fields you dont use similar to mandatory fields |
| 12:47 | chris_n | jwagner: or like cloths hangers |
| 12:47 | hdl_laptop | jwagner: No. This was a special request. |
| 12:47 | But I could commit that. | |
| 12:47 | jwagner | I have one site that does not collect ANY address info (govt site, privacy reasons). I ended up doing alternate templates for patron display/edit to strip out just about all the fields. |
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| 12:47 | jwagner | Having a syspref to just list all the fields to NOT display would be really useful. |
| 12:47 | chris_n | hi nengard |
| 12:47 | nengard | hiya |
| 12:48 | was hoping to find jwagner here :) | |
| 12:48 | hdl_laptop | Problem is that we should then have some screen to edit that. |
| 12:48 | jwagner | I'm here! |
| 12:48 | nengard | can you tell me how to use the custom borrower notes? |
| 12:48 | I want to document it, but I'm not seeing how to add them | |
| 12:48 | even with the authorized values set | |
| 12:49 | jwagner | First create the BOR_NOTES authorized value category & some canned notes. Then, in patron record, go to Checkout tab and click Add a New Message. You can direct the message to the patron or other staff. You can select one of the canned notes or enter free-text. |
| 12:50 | We spotted a problem on a few records -- if the patron didn't have any existing alerts (holds, fines, whatever), the Add a New Message link wasn't always showing. That's fixed in our test systems; we'll have to do a new patch for it when we get it final. | |
| 12:50 | nengard | jwagner OH!!!! |
| 12:50 | thank you | |
| 12:50 | so what's an example checkout note you might wnt to add? | |
| 12:50 | for some reason i was thinking these were notes on the patron record - not the patron checkout record | |
| 12:50 | jwagner | The classic one we've been using for testing for patrons is "You left your umbrella in the library" |
| 12:50 | nengard | Ahhhh |
| 12:51 | okay - well my default in the patch i just sent is no good :) | |
| 12:51 | jwagner | For staff, a canned note might be "Patron needs to bring in driver's license to verify ID" |
| 12:51 | hdl_laptop | jwagner: pls file a bug and assign that to me, I will send the patch asap |
| 12:51 | nengard | so these are notes to be read to the patron or the staff when the patron is there in person |
| 12:51 | a reminder | |
| 12:51 | more than a note - in the sense of the patron notes | |
| 12:51 | jwagner | Both notes will show on the patron checkout tab for staff. The notes directed to the patron will also show in the OPAC when the patron logs in. |
| 12:52 | nengard | awesome |
| 12:52 | okay - i'm off to poke and prod and document | |
| 12:52 | schuster | Question - about - Biblibre - test site as noted in IRC. I am able to login - and went to Administration and see "ReservesControlBranch" but can't find any documentation on it - can anyone tell me what it is supposed to do? |
| 12:52 | nengard | :) |
| 12:52 | jwagner | hdl_laptop, you mean file a bug asking for the syspref on unused patron fields? |
| 12:52 | hdl_laptop | if you want |
| 12:53 | jwagner | nengard, yes that was quite a nice feature. The developer did a really good job on it. Best part is that it doesn't overwrite the existing circ & opac notes, so you can keep any long-term notes you need there. I've seen notes like "child has parent's permission to borrow video games" -- things that shouldn't get overwritten. |
| 12:53 | nengard | question to any experienced developers - if you want to withdraw a patch that hasn't been pushed and submit a new one - how do you do that?? |
| 12:53 | jwagner | Tell Galen :-) |
| 12:54 | hdl_laptop | jwagner: or is there one there already ? |
| 12:54 | gmcharlt | send an email to the patches list accompanying the new patch |
| 12:54 | jwagner | hdl_laptop, I didn't file one on my Street Number question yet -- is that what you were asking? |
| 12:54 | nengard | okey dokey gmcharlt - will do - i misunderstood what the bor_notes were supposed to be so my default makes no sense |
| 12:54 | i'll fix it | |
| 12:54 | Colin | jwagner: The separate steet number maybe because in many European countries the postcode can generate the whole address except the street number |
| 12:55 | hdl_laptop | schuster: iirc this is the same thing as CircControlBranch applied to Reserves in order to check that it enforce reserve rules. |
| 12:55 | jwagner | I thought I remembered something like that. But I like hdl_laptop's fix better than my proposed syspref only for Street Number. |
| 12:56 | hdl_laptop, what's the email address to assign the bug to you? | |
| 12:56 | Colin | Of course in the UK postcodes are a commercial secret and you have to pay big bucks to get a list (or download it from wikileaks) |
| 12:56 | hdl_laptop | henridamienkoha-fr.org |
| 12:57 | schuster | hdl_laptop - for circulation parameters or limiting holds to a location? |
| 12:58 | hdl_laptop | limiting holds for a borrower on a location |
| 12:59 | Users from lib1 cannot put holds on lib2 and only 3 on lib4 but 10 on lib1 | |
| 12:59 | jwagner | hdl_laptop, bug created -- Bug 3656 |
| 12:59 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3656 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamienkoha-fr.org, NEW, Specify fields to be omitted from the patron record |
| 13:00 | schuster | OK thanks - but when an item is returned at lib1 if there is a hold for someone at lib2 it would force a transfer correct? |
| 13:02 | nengard | gmcharlt i have an issue - i only changed 2 of the files that were in my previous patch - so how do I recreate the entire patch for you? or should I just submit these 2 files and say they replace the other 2 I submitted before? |
| 13:04 | hdl_laptop | thx |
| 13:05 | schuster | OOO - Love the filter when patron is selected to search... |
| 13:06 | gmcharlt | nengard: easiest would be to resend the entire patch series: original patch + patches correcting it |
| 13:06 | if you're ambitious, try using git rebase --interactive to squash the patches | |
| 13:07 | nengard | for the the non-ambitious option :) I just send you two patches - one that is the original and then one with the fixes |
| 13:07 | gmcharlt | ok |
| 13:07 | schuster | OK - but how does one "Add a borrower" - if we don't find one. I'm on hdl_laptop's test environment. |
| 13:08 | I type in schuster and it says "No patron matched 'schuster'" - on my system it has a NEW button. | |
| 13:09 | This is checkout - and by Patron. | |
| 13:39 | mason | another late night jquery Q for anyone? |
| 13:39 | this one is impressively basic :/ | |
| 13:40 | this works just fine... | |
| 13:40 | var myDivs = $("div[class='moo']"); | |
| 13:40 | . | |
| 13:41 | now, i want to replace the literal string 'moo' - with a variable-name, like this.... | |
| 13:41 | var ddd = 'moo'; | |
| 13:41 | var myDivs = $("div[class=ddd]"); | |
| 13:41 | . | |
| 13:42 | this doesnt work as i want :/ | |
| 13:43 | how to tell jquery 'ddd' is a $variable , not a "string" | |
| 13:44 | seems like a stupid thing to be stuck on... | |
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| 13:49 | Ropuch | mason: var myDivs = $("div[class="+ddd+"]"); |
| 13:51 | mason | cheers, that works perfectly! |
| 13:51 | Nate | hello all! |
| 13:52 | mason | stupid syntax for a stupid problem ;) |
| 13:52 | Ropuch | ;> |
| 13:53 | Hi Nate | |
| 13:53 | mason | i reckon jquery is the modern equiv of brainf*ck |
| 13:54 | (the programing language that is, not the state-of-mind) | |
| 13:54 | Ropuch | hehehe |
| 13:55 | I don't know jquerry at all ;) | |
| 13:56 | mason | so - in JS ... a '+' either side of a +string+ , declares it as a variable? |
| 13:57 | rhcl_away is now known as rhcl | |
| 13:57 | Ropuch | Nope |
| 13:57 | It works like . in perl | |
| 13:57 | mason | sure, thats how i understood it too?!? |
| 13:58 | Ropuch | I think it;s just a concatenate operator |
| 13:59 | mason | i have to ask.... how does wrapping concat operators around a string - make JS parse it as a $var |
| 13:59 | which is what *seemed* to happen for me... | |
| 14:08 | chris_n | mason: the "" around "div[class=ddd]" cause the JS parser to interpret all that is in between literally |
| 14:09 | so by adding additional "" and concatenation operators, it now concatenates the literal value of $ddd into the string | |
| 14:09 | mason | heh, i didnt even click to that, from the examples i was looking at |
| 14:09 | chris_n | in this respect it is unlike perl as perl would do fine with "div[class=$ddd]" |
| 14:10 | mason: you have an excuse.... its late where you are I think ;-) | |
| 14:11 | * chris_n | thinks that if everyone just had somebody else's problems all problems would be solved |
| 14:13 | mason | hmm, my example seems to barf if i *dont* quote it :/ |
| 14:14 | so this clumsy looking thing works OK ... | |
| 14:14 | var foo = $("div[class='geo']").filter([textContent="+geoVal+"]); | |
| 14:15 | oops, bad paste.... | |
| 14:15 | var check = $("div[class='geo']").filter("[textContent="+geoVal+"]"); | |
| 14:16 | but when i correct it, but removing the redundant quotes, like this - it barfs... | |
| 14:16 | var check = $("div[class='geo']").filter([textContent=+geoVal+]); | |
| 14:17 | s/but/by/ | |
| 14:17 | oops, this even.. | |
| 14:17 | var check = $("div[class='geo']").filter([textContent=geoVal]); | |
| 14:18 | anyhoo, it is late here - and wayyy too late for JS | |
| 14:18 | thanx for help tho :) | |
| 14:20 | chris_n | mason: I think you need to quote the parameters |
| 14:20 | ie. what is inside the parenthesis | |
| 14:20 | * chris_n | is no JS guru though |
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| 14:51 | jwagner | XSLT question for people -- there's a check for when a field is last in line (to control ending punctuation): <xsl:when test="position()=last()"> -- is there any equivalent function to see if it's first in line? Changing last() to first() didn't work. Any ideas? The goal is to put some text/punctuation BEFORE a particular field. |
| 14:51 | (in the case of multiple occurences of the field, that is) | |
| 14:57 | kf | perhaps wolfgang would know - but cant ask him right now |
| 14:58 | owen | jwagner: Maybe this? http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/08/07/ducharme.html |
| 14:59 | jwagner | Hmm. That seems to be using <xsl:if test="position() = last()"> |
| 15:00 | I tried that & got a fatal error. I'll look at the other variations on that site, though. Thanks. | |
| 15:02 | magnusenger | jwagner: how about just <xsl:when test="position()=0"> or <xsl:when test="position()=1"> (not sure if they start counting at 0 or 1...) |
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| 15:08 | jwagner | magnusenger, I'll give that a shot, thanks. |
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| 15:58 | jwagner | magnusenger and others, the <xsl:when test="position()=1"> works to identify the first field. Yippee! |
| 16:00 | kf | grats :) |
| 16:08 | jwagner | Let's see if other people want the fix I just used it for. If you have multiple 110 and 710 fields (corporate author), and also 100/700 personal author, the OPAC results list can be confusing. I had a record with a 100, 700, and 710, and the display looked like the 710 only belonged to the second author (the 700) rather than being a separate author. I'm tucking in a text label of Corporate Author: before the first 110/710. |
| 16:10 | So that a sample By line in the results list might look like by Scurlock, James D ; First 700 Name ; Second 700 Name . Corporate author: First 110 Name ; First 710 Name ; Second 710 Name . | |
| 16:11 | I'm working on a patch for a few other minor XSLT things -- would people like this included, or should I keep it local for this site? | |
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| 16:13 | owen | jwagner: I'm not entirely clear what you're doing, because I'm not paying close attention ;) ...but anything that improves clarity I would assume is general-interest |
| 16:13 | magnusenger | jwagner: sounds good to me |
| 16:15 | jwagner | This particular site is a government research library. There are individual authors, but the agency itself is also an author. In the display, it looked like the agency name only applied to the second author (the period in between is almost invisible). So I was trying to set apart all the 110/710 fields from the personal author names. |
| 16:32 | kf | jwagner: do you have libraries charging fines and sending notices for it? |
| 16:42 | jwagner: just fighting a little with configuration right now, will ask on irc another time. | |
| 16:42 | time to leave work now :) bye #koha! | |
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| 16:44 | owen | @seen chris_n |
| 16:44 | munin` | owen: chris_n was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 24 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: * chris_n is no JS guru though |
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| 16:59 | chris_n | owen: here now |
| 16:59 | full of lunch and sleepy ;-) | |
| 16:59 | pianohacker | hi, chris_n |
| 17:01 | chris_n | hey pianohacker... fingers healing? |
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| 17:03 | pianohacker | heh, not yet. I go to see the orthopedist today, maybe get a cast |
| 17:05 | How are you doing? | |
| 17:12 | nengard | what happened to your fingers pianohacker? |
| 17:13 | and how will you type with a cast on??? hehe - I had surgery on my wrist while in college and the brace I had to wear made it nearly impossible to type | |
| 17:13 | pianohacker | broke two on left hand in bicycle accident |
| 17:13 | nengard | oh no!! |
| 17:13 | pianohacker | right handed dvorak :) |
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| 17:16 | chris_n | pianohacker must have scared nengard off ;-) |
| 17:17 | pianohacker: been doing fine other than trying to get rid of a nasty cold | |
| 17:17 | pianohacker | fear my one-handed touch typing skills |
| 17:17 | ouch, I'm sorry | |
| 17:17 | * chris_n | tries to type without sounding too nasal |
| 17:17 | chris | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=14252 ... it begins |
| 17:17 | pianohacker | hehe |
| 17:17 | chris_n | hi chris |
| 17:18 | chris | someone needs to tell pamela it isnt opensource until its released |
| 17:19 | magnusenger | "The ability to share customizations and the flexibility that is offered by open-source software was a huge reason for us choosing Koha." Yay! |
| 17:19 | chris_n | grrrr |
| 17:20 | pianohacker | One-way sharing is still sharing, right? |
| 17:20 | chris_n | chris: G::M is working great now |
| 17:20 | chris | awesome :) |
| 17:22 | chris_n | I think I'm going to leave GD in place for the patron image stuff and just require G::M if one will be using the Patron Card Creator |
| 17:22 | that will allow those who don't want the extra "bulk" of G::M to opt not to install it | |
| 17:22 | chris | sounds like a great idea |
| 17:24 | * chris_n | wonders what is so hard to understand about the two words 'open' and 'source'? |
| 17:24 | wizzyrea | carrier class data center.... you mean... amazon? |
| 17:24 | ^.^ | |
| 17:24 | chris | heh |
| 17:25 | well that bit doesnt bother me, its the fact that it's being labelled open source, when it isnt. | |
| 17:26 | * owen | is back |
| 17:26 | chris_n | hi owen |
| 17:26 | * jdavidb | chuckles. |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | oh, it's not bothersome |
| 17:26 | pianohacker | hi owen |
| 17:26 | chris | i rewrote WoW as opensource, its all on my hd, im not releasing it though, but it is open source, trust me |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | just funny :) |
| 17:26 | chris_n | lol |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | ooh, did you fix mages?! |
| 17:26 | because that's really what I want | |
| 17:27 | owen | Hi chris_n, I was just doing some template tweaks on the new labels branch and encountered an error |
| 17:27 | wizzyrea | give me back my AP PoM Pyro! |
| 17:27 | pianohacker | I have an open source WoW. I call it a pepper mill |
| 17:27 | chris_n | owen: which one.... error that is |
| 17:27 | pianohacker | grind grind grind |
| 17:27 | * chris_n | sneezes |
| 17:27 | owen | I'm trying to create a batch, clicking the "add items" button, doing a search for items to add... |
| 17:28 | Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/labels/label-item-search.pl line 129. | |
| 17:28 | * jdavidb | rolls his eyes at pianohacker, then realizes he'll need 'em for a meeting in a few. |
| 17:28 | wizzyrea | PH LOL |
| 17:28 | chris_n | owen: I think I forwarded a patch for that bug a couple of days ago |
| 17:28 | but it has not hit the main repo yet | |
| 17:28 | * chris_n | looks |
| 17:29 | * chris | goes back to sleep |
| 17:29 | pianohacker | cya |
| 17:30 | * pianohacker | goes to find pain meds and an orthopedist |
| 17:30 | pianohacker | bbl |
| 17:31 | chris_n | owen: nope that was another issue with profiles |
| 17:31 | owen: so the error is thrown when you perform the search? | |
| 17:31 | ie click the 'Search' button? | |
| 17:32 | owen | Yes: I tried a title search, a keyword search, and a date-limited search |
| 17:32 | chris_n | hmm... search works fine here |
| 17:33 | which version are you running? | |
| 17:33 | * chris_n | 's is version 3.01.00.061 |
| 17:33 | owen | My About page reports the same: 3.01.00.061 |
| 17:35 | Hmmm... looking at my error logs I see a bunch of stuff coming up from a regular search on the staff side | |
| 17:35 | Lots of errors from XSLT.pm | |
| 17:36 | chris_n | looking at that line it looks like it may be a data corruption problem |
| 17:36 | specifically 'itemnumber' | |
| 17:37 | maybe not | |
| 17:38 | but maybe some corruption in an item record | |
| 17:40 | looks like GetItemInfosOf does not return any item data for a given bib | |
| 17:41 | and results in a hash ref being undefined | |
| 17:47 | * chris_n | breaks into a shipment of pc boards he designed |
| 17:52 | rhcl | chris_n, so uh, how exactly do you go about designing pc boards? motherboards? who does the fabrication? |
| 17:53 | I need a couple of Shuttle XPC motherboards, which Shuttle won't sell aftermarket. | |
| 17:54 | chris_n | rhcl: these are basically an FM receiver which works with our "hearing impaired" system |
| 17:54 | rhcl: nothing as complex as a MB... yet ;-) | |
| 17:55 | I designed these with free software from http://www.4pcb.com (Advanced Circuits) who also manufactured them | |
| 17:56 | rhcl | Interesting. Is this your first batch? How do they look? |
| 17:59 | chris_n | rhcl: this is the second board design I've done, but the first with Advanced Circuits |
| 17:59 | these look very nice | |
| 17:59 | and the price was excellent for qty 25 | |
| 18:00 | rhcl: the first project was a bunch of 2.4KW dimmer packs | |
| 18:00 | the boards were fine, but that company was much more expensive and the layout software was cheesy | |
| 18:01 | the dimmer packs are getting pic based DMX controllers added next which will be controlled by open-source lighting software | |
| 18:02 | rhcl | looks like pcb artist only runs on windows |
| 18:03 | * chris_n | found a web-browser written in assembler for a pic and thought of porting koha to assembler to run on it... |
| 18:03 | chris_n | rhcl: that is the only down-side; but it will run under wine |
| 18:03 | I did some of the work with pcbartist running under wine on ubuntu | |
| 18:04 | in the end I could not get the resolution set correctly and had to move to a vbox install of xp | |
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| 18:05 | rhcl | I mess around some with old commercial firewalls, like the Firebox and VelociRaptor series--install HD/flash drives and opensource firewall software like Smoothwall et al. |
| 18:06 | Don't know why anybody would want to do it, but those modded old firewalls essentially are/become generic computers that could run Koha. | |
| 18:07 | chris_n | gotta go populate one of these and flush out the bugs |
| 18:07 | bbiab | |
| 18:07 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
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| 18:51 | chris | back again |
| 19:03 | nicomo | hi chris |
| 19:04 | chris | heya nicomo |
| 19:04 | want a copy of my opensource SAS and um Oracle? | |
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| 19:09 | Topic for #koha is now It's not open source until you release it | koha foundation polling begins 29 September 2009 http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]sep15#action_item | |
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| 19:12 | * chris | goes to have a shower |
| 19:12 | chris | wash the FUD off |
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| 19:19 | * owen_ | glares at owen |
| 19:19 | * jdavidb | glares at owen and owen_ |
| 19:20 | schuster | schuster glares at boss and jdavidb and owen_ |
| 19:21 | ;) | |
| 19:21 | * jdavidb | glares at schuster, just for good measure. |
| 19:21 | mumbles, "30% chance of rain? bah! Nothing within 50 miles of here!" | |
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| 19:29 | cait_laptop | hi #koha :) |
| 19:29 | owen | chris_n? |
| 19:31 | jdavidb | Hi cait_laptop. :) |
| 19:31 | cait_laptop | hi jdavidb |
| 19:32 | chris | back |
| 19:33 | cait_laptop | hi chris |
| 19:33 | you keep me busy with translation! :) | |
| 19:37 | Ropuch | ;> |
| 19:41 | cait_laptop | hi Ropuch |
| 19:44 | Ropuch | helo everybody |
| 19:44 | chris | hehe yeah, we got the xsl being translated now too |
| 19:44 | at least for 3.0.x .. soon for 3.2.x too, so there will be work there too | |
| 19:45 | but it does mean you can run with XSLT on, and have it in german too | |
| 19:45 | thanks to HDL | |
| 19:45 | cait_laptop | there are some things in the po that should better not get translated. I think I saw file names of images and paths |
| 19:46 | but its great that we can have a German xslt now - so dont misunderstand me. Im really like it :) | |
| 19:47 | chris | yep, we will clean it up |
| 19:47 | for the filenames just copy and submit | |
| 19:47 | (or leave untranslated) | |
| 19:47 | either works :) | |
| 19:47 | cait_laptop | I do that, but someone else might accidently translate and break something |
| 19:48 | chris | *nod* |
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| 19:49 | cait_laptop | chris: I have a new problem - we need items.enumchron shown in opac-reserves.tmpl for item level holds on bound volumes of journals and single issues |
| 19:49 | chris | righto |
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| 19:50 | cait_laptop | I think it should not be too difficult, but it seems I cant get it right |
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| 19:51 | chris | wb schuster |
| 19:51 | cait_laptop: hmm, is it getting passed through by the script? | |
| 19:52 | schuster | wb ??? |
| 19:52 | cait_laptop | chris: I think I dont understand really how the variables work. I think I have to add it to the array in opac-reserves.pl and add a column in opac-reserves.tmpl |
| 19:53 | chris | schuster: welcome back |
| 19:53 | that sounds about right cait_laptop :) | |
| 19:53 | schuster | ;) my laptop bottomed out wireless.. |
| 19:53 | cait_laptop | chris: yes... but I think I dont get the variable names right |
| 19:54 | chris | i have to catch a bus soon |
| 19:54 | if you want, you can send me a patch | |
| 19:54 | and ill have a look and tell ya whats up | |
| 19:54 | send it to work chrisccatalyst.net.nz |
|
| 19:55 | cait_laptop | thx chris, this is a very kind offer :) - I will try a little longer to solve it on my own and will send you one when get stuck |
| 19:56 | first I have to redo what I did some days ago - accidently killed some of the changes I did | |
| 19:56 | chris | ok, bus time, bb in 40 mins or so |
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| 20:15 | jhaig | I am trying koha for the first time (well, I was playing around with the VMware version yesterday). I'm starting to install it and I remember somewhere seeing that most people use Debian, so I thought that would be the best bet. However, the closest install guide I have found for version 3 is for Ubuntu (on http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php). Is this close enough, or is there a Debian install guide somewhere? Thanks. |
| 20:17 | chris_n | owen: back |
| 20:17 | for a minute | |
| 20:21 | jhaig: ubuntu install should do for debian | |
| 20:22 | Ropuch | It does |
| 20:22 | jhaig | Thanks. I would have thought that, but I don't know how picky koha is regarding some of the package version numbers. |
| 20:24 | Ropuch | I've installed koha on debian testing recently |
| 20:24 | Quite painless | |
| 20:25 | afair all perl modules can be installed via apt | |
| 20:25 | So there | |
| 20:25 | s no need to install them from cpan | |
| 20:28 | jhaig | That is one thing I was hoping for. My preference for a server is actually CentOS, but I would need to use CPAN, which would mess up the package management. |
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| 20:28 | richard | hi |
| 20:29 | Ropuch | hi richard |
| 20:29 | jhaig | I assume that in the ubuntu guide, I need all the obvious modifications (such as changing the IndexData repository path to include debian and lenny instead of ubuntu and hardy). |
| 20:30 | And likewise, lenny-backports (instead of etch-backports) | |
| 20:32 | Ropuch | deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian lenny main |
| 20:32 | Only added entry in testing sources.list i can see | |
| 20:33 | jhaig | I'm following http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]uide_ubuntu_hardy which indicates you need backports. However, this is not the latest Ubuntu, so perhaps that is why backports are needed. |
| 20:34 | But are you saying that 'testing' is needed? | |
| 20:36 | Ropuch | I believe not, i'm just saying how it's look like when using testing like i do :) |
| 20:36 | cait_laptop | chris: here? found a bug for my problem and got enumchron displayed in opac :) |
| 20:36 | jhaig | I think I'll disable backports for the moment, and see if I get problems later. |
| 20:39 | Ropuch | Bah, If any of you ever considered buying D-link dir-615 router, don't. |
| 20:40 | chris | well done cait_laptop :) |
| 20:40 | jhaig: you shouldnt need backports with lenny | |
| 20:40 | jhaig | Thanks. |
| 20:44 | cait_laptop | chris: thx, dont know what the mistake was, just redid what I had tried before. |
| 20:58 | jhaig | For the record, idzebra doesn't appear to be in the standard lenny repositories, or in IndexData, so I assume it would be in backports. I'm not intending to install zebra anyway, though. |
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| 21:33 | chris | jhaig: why not? |
| 21:34 | i would heartily recommend zebra, even for tiny libraries | |
| 21:34 | its a pita to get going, but the search is lightyears ahead of nonzebra | |
| 21:40 | jhaig | I have found it - the package name was idzebra-2.0, not idzebra as the document said. |
| 21:40 | chris | cool |
| 21:41 | jhaig | Maybe I'll try it then, but my library isn't really that big. |
| 21:41 | chris | is that the INSTALL.debian-lenny document? |
| 21:42 | jhaig | Hmmm, no it isn't. It is http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]uide_ubuntu_hardy Perhaps I should have looked at the koha tarball before launching straight into installing the OS :-) |
| 21:42 | chris | :-) |
| 21:42 | yeah, INSTALL.debian-lenny is what you are after | |
| 21:43 | install_misc/debian-lenny.packages also has the list of packages | |
| 21:43 | INSTALL.debian-lenny refers to this file | |
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| 22:00 | cait_laptop | gmcharlt: around? |
| 22:00 | gmcharlt | cait_laptop: what's up? |
| 22:00 | cait_laptop | I just sent a patch for @bug 3380 |
| 22:00 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3380 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Serial enumeration / chronology should display in opac holds interface. |
| 22:01 | cait_laptop | its yours, can I take it? :) |
| 22:01 | gmcharlt | yep |
| 22:01 | any bug that has a status of NEW, not ASSIGNED, has not actually been specifically taken up by anybody | |
| 22:01 | cait_laptop | its marked as enhancement, but I think its more a bug, because its really a problem with serials and item level holds |
| 22:01 | ah ok | |
| 22:03 | gmcharlt: thx | |
| 22:04 | added a screenshot to the bug and going to bed now - got late :) good night #koha | |
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| 22:06 | chris | awesome |
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| 23:37 | pianohacker | hmm |
| 23:38 | I did work on displaying serials info for PTFS | |
| 23:38 | I think it should be coming soon | |
| 23:48 | chris | good news |
| 23:48 | maybe you might wanna update bug with that, so kf doesnt duplicate work | |
| 23:50 | pianohacker | I'll bug jwagner, she's more up to speed on that enhancement's journey through the corporate pipes |
| 23:50 | chris | cool |
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