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| 00:12 | brendan | heya #koha |
| 00:13 | chris | hi brendan |
| 00:13 | brendan | good afternoon chris :) |
| 00:14 | lunch time yet? | |
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| 01:47 | chris_n2 | call number splitting strikes again :-P |
| 02:05 | g'night | |
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| 03:11 | Amit | hi chris, brendan |
| 03:11 | good morning #koha | |
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| 05:44 | brendan | good night #koha |
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| 06:25 | magnusenger | good morning #koha! |
| 06:33 | Amit | hi magnusenger |
| 06:33 | magnusenger | hi Amit |
| 06:33 | Ropuch | morning everybody |
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| 06:38 | nicomo | morning #koha |
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| 07:04 | magnusenger | good morning BibLibre! ;-) |
| 07:05 | nicomo | hi magnusenger |
| 07:06 | magnusenger | hi nicomo |
| 07:06 | nicomo | yes: we're all clicking in, but you'll notice I've been here slightly before the others :-) |
| 07:06 | magnusenger | yes, i noticed! |
| 07:06 | ;-) | |
| 07:07 | nicomo | which probably only means I'll be the first to take a coffee break |
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| 07:12 | paul_p | hi magnusenger |
| 07:12 | magnusenger | hi paul_p |
| 07:14 | chris | evening |
| 07:14 | paul_p | hi chris |
| 07:14 | chris | hdl: i didnt manage to get anything more done today |
| 07:16 | wll no more cherry picks anyway | |
| 07:38 | hdl | ??? |
| 07:38 | hi | |
| 07:39 | chris | :) |
| 07:39 | i didnt get any cherry-picks done sorry | |
| 07:45 | hdl | have you said you wouldnot do any other ? |
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| 07:53 | chris | no, i just meant i got none today :) |
| 07:54 | hdl | thanks anyway |
| 08:00 | kf | good morning chris + hdl |
| 08:00 | hdl | hi |
| 08:01 | chris | hi kf |
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| 08:01 | |Lupin| | good morning #koha |
| 08:01 | guten morgen kf | |
| 08:02 | kf | guten morgen |Lupin| |
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| 08:06 | paul_p | hello jransom & |Lupin| & kf |
| 08:06 | |Lupin| | chris: hi |
| 08:06 | chris: around ? | |
| 08:06 | jransom | hello all |
| 08:06 | |Lupin| | salut paul_p |
| 08:07 | or paul_p you may have ideas, too | |
| 08:07 | kf | chris: when I download the po-file from pootle, will merge work ok when uploading it again? I gave up on pootles search, intranet is just not working. |
| 08:07 | hello all again :) | |
| 08:08 | |Lupin| | I'd like to have some MARC fields automatically filled with URLs that include parameters from other fields. |
| 08:08 | I'm wondering where in Koha is the right place to do something like that | |
| 08:09 | Not even sure the value should be stored in the marc fields themselves actually | |
| 08:11 | kf | I dont know what you want to do, but I think you could use a plugin, there are already some plugins for acquisition_date in items or coded fields. plugins can be linked to MARC-fields. |
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| 08:15 | |Lupin| | kf: yeah plugins may be the way |
| 08:16 | kf: it's just that I don't know how a plugin can fetch the value from another MARC field | |
| 08:16 | jransom | hi merete |
| 08:16 | |Lupin| | kf: what I'd like to do is this: assume an item associated to the biblio #1234 and whose ccode is 56 |
| 08:17 | then I'd like to associate to this item a link to the URL http://somesite/download.pl?biblio=1234&ccode=56 | |
| 08:19 | kf | never wrote a plugin, so I dont know. I think you might need javascript to get the values entered in the other marc fields |
| 08:20 | so this might be a problem. you want them to be filled during import or in cataloging? | |
| 08:21 | |Lupin| | kf: in cataloguing... |
| 08:22 | kf: I'm not even sure they should really be stored in the MARC field. The only sure thing is that they shold appear on the generated pages, and since they are completely determined by other fields, it may just be a matter of modifying the templates the right way ! | |
| 08:25 | actually, is it possible to tel KOha to use another template than the one that comes with it, for a given page ? | |
| 08:25 | kind of a template overloading ? | |
| 08:26 | kf | there are paramters in admin for changing the used templates but I dont know if it really works |
| 08:27 | |Lupin| | kf: ah ! interesting...:/ thanks. Will have to try this, then. |
| 08:30 | kf | perhaps ask owen about it, he should know |
| 08:32 | |Lupin| | kf: good idea, thanks |
| 08:32 | ! | |
| 08:32 | kf: and perhaps also pianohacker ? | |
| 08:33 | kf | dont know, perhaps just try and ask later, when USA is awake |
| 08:33 | |Lupin| | kf: yeah, good idea |
| 08:35 | kf: many thanks for your help | |
| 08:35 | jransom | Merete: if you are about still I'd like to get started if possible. |
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| 09:54 | jransom | hola |
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| 10:49 | Ropuch | Is there a quick way to avoid "Could not get the IP address of koha, DNS fault? at rewrite-config.PL line 68."? |
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| 11:32 | Willem | Hi there, I'm using MarcEdit successfully to change biblios, but changes of items (e.g. shelving) seem to be ignored. Is there a different approach that needs to be followed to update items? |
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| 11:55 | kf | Willem: once a item is created it can only be changed within koha, not by import |
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| 12:00 | Kivutar | anybody knows how to setup gitstat? |
| 12:05 | chris | i know its a pita |
| 12:06 | if you are talking about the php one | |
| 12:07 | i set it up at liblime when i was working there, 2 years ago .. its annoying to do and has bad instructions | |
| 12:07 | Willem | Thanks kf, I'm an experienced VB programmer, but need to be shown the way into koha. How could I tackle my learning route? |
| 12:09 | kf | Willem: nicoles manuals on koha.org are a good starting point |
| 12:09 | Willem: depends on what you want to do | |
| 12:09 | Kivutar | chris: looks like it hasn't changed much in 2 years ;) |
| 12:09 | nahuel | chris, because it exists a python or perl one ? |
| 12:09 | chris | gitstats is a python one |
| 12:09 | nahuel | ah ? |
| 12:10 | chris | http://stats.workbuffer.org/koha-20001220-now/ |
| 12:10 | what i use here | |
| 12:10 | git clone | |
| 12:10 | Willem | Thanks kf, will have a look there. By the way, could you explain to me the additional 952 fields that koha seems to create if there are several items of the same biblio? Is it possible to switch that function off? |
| 12:10 | chris | ./gitstats path/to/repo /where/i/want/the/files |
| 12:10 | nahuel | chris, ok |
| 12:10 | chris | done |
| 12:10 | much nicer :) | |
| 12:11 | nahuel | a cronjob ? |
| 12:11 | chris | i just run it every so often, could be cronned easily tho |
| 12:11 | kf | Willem: there is one 952 for every item |
| 12:11 | chris | nahuel: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ |
| 12:11 | you have a lot more commits in the version 3 branch :) | |
| 12:12 | nahuel | ah yes |
| 12:12 | kf | Willem: do you only want the items of a specific library for export or why would you want to switch it off? atm the item information in marc-xml is needed for Koha to work correct. but I understand that its planned to change that, so that item information will be only in items tabel at some time. |
| 12:12 | chris | ok bedtime for me |
| 12:13 | nahuel | i'm in the top 25 :p |
| 12:13 | Willem | kf, yes but koha produces additional 952 lines with cascaded summaries of info from the normal 952 items, separated with ' | ' (space,vertical,space) That's the one I don't understand. |
| 12:13 | Kivutar | i don't know why gitstat can't find my git binary at /usr/bin/git |
| 12:13 | good night | |
| 12:14 | kf | Willem: do you have an example? |
| 12:14 | Willem: which koha version do you use? I saw summary records once in a catalog hosted by liblime and wonder if that is what you might see. | |
| 12:15 | Willem | kf =952 \\$8AAA | AAA | AAA$70$p3635200002010 | 3635200002014 | 3635200002012$40$00$90$bCFCE | CFCE | CFCE$yAAA | AAA | AAA$10$d2009-06-17 | 2009-06-17 | 2009-06-17$aCFCE | CFCE | CFCE |
| 12:16 | the barcodes 36352..... x3 represent the items' barcodes that are listed separately as 952 items | |
| 12:17 | not sure where to find my koha version... | |
| 12:18 | kf | where do you get this from? exported marc data or one of the marc views? |
| 12:18 | AAA = akadmisches auslandsamt? | |
| 12:19 | chris_n | g'night chris |
| 12:23 | Willem | expkf this was exported, but the cascaded 952 also show as "additional" items which don't get counted in OPAC searches, but give incorrect counts when logged in as a librarian. |
| 12:24 | forget expkf, typing went wrong | |
| 12:26 | kf | Willem: I cant explain what you see, never saw that in our data. could be something like a summary record or something really going wrong there. |
| 12:32 | chris_n | Willem: are you running zebra or nozebra? |
| 12:41 | Willem | well I might be running giraffe or hippo i have no idea. |
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| 12:49 | chris_n | Willem: if you are running zebra then running 'misc/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r -v' will most likely cure the discrepancies in the opac searches |
| 12:49 | Willem: you had to select either 'zebra' or 'nozebra' during the web install routine | |
| 12:50 | Willem | I'll need to ask the person who installed it whether it's zebra or nozebra |
| 12:50 | chris_n | there are a variety of install docs included in the tarball or git clone which explain the zebra |
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| 12:50 | * chris_n | thinks that zebras do kick occasionally... :-) |
| 12:51 | Willem | the opac search is actually fine - it's the librarian's version of showing how many items there are that goes wrong, counting the cascaded 952 as additional items |
| 12:52 | chris_n | Willem: a cron job will need to be setup to rebuild the zebra indexes at regular intervals |
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| 12:56 | chris_n | Willem: where are you seeing "cascaded" 952 fields? |
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| 12:57 | chris_n | ie what part of the staff interface |
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| 13:01 | Willem | chris_n, the incorrect item count comes up when displaying a single biblio search result - the "cascaded" items appear when choosing "edit items", in the same table as the normal items |
| 13:05 | chris_n | Willem: so you are seeing the '|' separated fields within a single table division rather than seeing a separate table row for each item? |
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| 13:10 | chris_n | if so, I suspect corrupt data |
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| 13:11 | Willem | chris_n have a look at my screenshot at http://www.cfce.org.za/downloads/koha%20shot.jpg |
| 13:12 | chris_n | Willem: looks like corrupted data in those last two items |
| 13:13 | Willem | well this kind of extra data appears automatically after a while of having multiple items per biblio - they are everywhere in our data |
| 13:13 | chris_n | I would not be sure how it happened, but millions of records have been imported into koha w/o issues |
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| 13:14 | chris_n | what software are you migrating the data from |
| 13:14 | Willem | I use MarcEdit |
| 13:15 | chris_n | so you create the record in MarcEdit from scratch? |
| 13:16 | Willem | I edit the text, for instance for adding info like publication dates etc, in a text editor. then load the plain text into MarcEdit. then convert to *.mrc to export to koha |
| 13:17 | chris_n | I'm not sure where the corruption might be occurring, but you might try importing the record w/o editing it first and see if the item data is still messed up |
| 13:18 | if it is, the problem is with the original record | |
| 13:18 | if it is not, perhaps the work with MarcEdit is the introducing some problems | |
| 13:19 | there are some others here and on the list that have migrated from a variety of proprietary ILS's and so might be able to give more insight | |
| 13:19 | bbiab | |
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| 13:24 | Willem | to show the difference between records a month ago and the additional 952 fields I've placed an example at http://www.cfce.org.za/downloa[…]for%20chris_n.txt |
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| 13:38 | slef | @dict corrollary |
| 13:38 | munin` | slef: No definition for "corrollary" could be found. |
| 13:38 | slef | @dict corollary |
| 13:38 | munin` | slef: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: corollary n 1: a practical consequence that follows naturally; "blind jealousy is a frequent corollary of passionate love" 2: (logic) an inference that follows directly from the proof of another proposition; gcide: Corollary \Cor"ol*la*ry\ (k?r"?l-l?-r?; 277), n.; pl. {Corollaries} (-r?z). [L. corollarium gift, corollary, fr. corolla. See {Corolla}.] 1. That which (4 more messages) |
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| 13:45 | |Lupin| | hi again, everybody |
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| 13:46 | |Lupin| | I'm wondering: can anyone pls explain me the syntax of the isbd system preference ? The manual is not very talkative about this and I'm oo new to the field to fully understand it just by reading the default value... |
| 13:55 | kf | does someone know if @bug 3164 is fixed in current head? I can not find the patch on the mailing list or in git |
| 13:55 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3164 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, OPAC-placed holds broken in SingleBranchMode |
| 14:03 | owen | kf: it looks to me like Ryan submitted a patch for it, although it wasn't attached to the bug report |
| 14:04 | A search of the patches list for "bug 3164" doesn't turn up anything | |
| 14:04 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3164 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, OPAC-placed holds broken in SingleBranchMode |
| 14:04 | kf | owen: yes, but im not sure it made his way over the patches list and into koha |
| 14:04 | owen: I have a 3 week old koha installation from head here where its not fixed | |
| 14:05 | owen | Ah, I found it in my mail archive. Looks like Ryan submitted a patch and gmcharlt asked for a revision |
| 14:05 | I wonder if the revision never happened | |
| 14:06 | kf | ah ok |
| 14:06 | owen | http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]9-May/003592.html |
| 14:07 | kf | owen: thx! hm, what to do about it? |
| 14:08 | I can test again at home on a current dev install and update the bug if its still not fixed? | |
| 14:08 | owen | Here's gmcharlt's response: http://www.mail-archive.com/ko[…]org/msg02592.html |
| 14:08 | (not sure why Google returned those from different sites, but there you go) | |
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| 14:10 | owen | kf: the best solution is probably to take Ryan's patch and correct it according to gmcharlt's recommendations (it doesn't appear ryan plans to do so) |
| 14:10 | kf | kf: I would do that, if I would know how - I cannnot program in perl (yet) and this is a bit more complicated. |
| 14:11 | owen | Yeah, this one is over my head too :( |
| 14:12 | kf: I'll update the bug report with ryan's patch and gmcharlt's response | |
| 14:12 | kf | thx owen! |
| 14:12 | wizzyrea | owen is so nice. |
| 14:12 | :) | |
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| 14:14 | chris_n | Willem: the record is clearly corrupted; what version of koha are you using? (under 'More-About Koha') |
| 14:18 | owen | Bug updated, patch-sent status removed. Fingers crossed. |
| 14:19 | kf | owen: that was fast! thx for your help! |
| 14:24 | jdavidb | @quote random |
| 14:24 | munin` | jdavidb: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) |
| 14:25 | jdavidb | @quote random |
| 14:25 | munin` | jdavidb: Quote #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs lotion" (added by gmcharlt at 03:05 AM, May 31, 2009) |
| 14:25 | * jdavidb | raises an eyebrow |
| 14:25 | jwagner | @quote random |
| 14:25 | munin` | jwagner: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009) |
| 14:26 | kf | nice |
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| 14:31 | rhcl | wizzyrea: I seem to recall you were going to have a telecon w/ LL. Has that happened yet, and if so, how did it go down? |
| 14:49 | owen | How time changes things: http://www.web2learning.net/archives/1624 |
| 14:50 | "All of the development that has been planned will be done by August 2008 and then shared back with the community." | |
| 14:50 | sekjal | Been trying to get WALDO to issue a statement about their intentions |
| 14:51 | so far I've only heard back that they are EXTREMELY busy working to catch up to their schedule, and to try asking again in mid-Oct. | |
| 14:53 | * jdavidb | hears a run-around there. |
| 14:55 | sekjal | I wouldn't think it would take too much time to dash off a quick email to the koha list, but I don't know the details of their current workload and staffing, so perhaps I'm off |
| 14:56 | owen | If there were misconceptions about the situation I would think they'd want to correct them right away |
| 14:57 | jdavidb | Ditto for the whole, "LibLime has withdrawn from the community" thing...if that's not the case, where are they? |
| 14:57 | sekjal | I started my thread with them on Aug 9., so its been over a month. |
| 14:59 | I hate to draw conclusions about WALDO and LibLime without hearing from them | |
| 15:00 | but their silence is creating a void into which conclusions seem to want to draw themselves | |
| 15:00 | gtg to a Drupal training. back later | |
| 15:02 | kf | I got the impression, that they cant say its wrong so they stay silent. |
| 15:03 | jdavidb | It'd be nice if they'd stand up and say so, one way or another. |
| 15:05 | slef | I think it needs to be the users who really press on the LL-in-or-out topic, not we other vendors. |
| 15:06 | Although given how much I've been flamed by LL+co when our workload and staffing problems caused us to fork 3.0, maybe I could take this opportunity for revenge. I'm not going to, though. | |
| 15:07 | owen | I've seen the beginnings of that (the users asking questions), slef, in a non-public forum, but no response yet |
| 15:07 | kf | I think most of them dont know whats going on |
| 15:08 | owen | ...or don't see what the fuss is about, since their support company is on top of things from their perspective. |
| 15:14 | chris_n | hrmm... 'protection against vendor lock in' |
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| 15:16 | owen | chris_n: Not every Koha library has fully internalized the open source idea obviously |
| 15:19 | kf | ok, need to go - bye #koha! |
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| 16:31 | brendan | ahh... good morning - very pleasant bike ride to work this morning :) |
| 16:31 | paul_p | hi brendan |
| 16:31 | brendan | hi paul_p |
| 16:33 | I was wondering if anyone knew anything about this file in koha --- sort-string-utf.chr | |
| 16:33 | does zebra utilize that -- or is it there for an example for me? | |
| 16:51 | chris_n | hi brendan, paul_p |
| 16:51 | brendan | hi chris_n |
| 17:03 | owen | If I check out the labels_recon topic branch should it automatically prompt me to update the database? |
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| 17:28 | Sharon | I'm at a training for a standalone koha system and the OPAC says "Search (in POMONA only)" when I am logged in, but then gives 0 results. If I log out of the OPAC, I get search results. - What syspref is screwy?? |
| 17:30 | owen | Search my library first? |
| 17:30 | Sharon | i'll go look! |
| 17:30 | owen | Are there items in the catalog for POMONA? |
| 17:31 | Sharon | owen that was it!, thank you. |
| 17:31 | yep, they've cataloged 200 items | |
| 17:32 | We just impressed them with this quick Community answer ;-) Go OS! | |
| 17:43 | gmcharlt | owen: yes, I belive that hte labels_recon udpate is automatic |
| 17:44 | owen | I'm not getting a prompt to do a database update |
| 17:44 | chris_n | owen: check the version number |
| 17:45 | if you were running the syspref branch it may be ahead | |
| 17:45 | owen | 3.01.00.053 |
| 17:46 | chris_n | roll it back to 52 in the syspref editor and the update should run after you save it |
| 17:47 | owen | I'll try it, thanks |
| 17:47 | chris_n | alternately you can run the installer/data/mysql/labels_upgrade.pl script from the command line |
| 17:48 | owen | Interesting...the version in system prefs says 3.0100058 |
| 17:48 | chris_n | it should be automagic as long as the version is earlier than 53 |
| 17:48 | hrmm | |
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| 17:49 | chris_n | syspref branch is at that version |
| 17:50 | ricardo | Hi all |
| 17:50 | chris_n | hi ricardo |
| 17:50 | owen: you've been working with that branch so that probably explains the discrepancy | |
| 17:50 | ricardo | This time, I have more of a "MARC::Record" / "MARC::Field" Perl modules question, than a purely "Koha related" one |
| 17:51 | chris_n | rolling the syspref version to 52 should apply the labels upgrade, but you may see a few errors from the db update script after that due to later changes already being applied |
| 17:51 | they should be harmless, however | |
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| 17:52 | ricardo | Does anyone have experience of "capturing" multiple occurrences of the same MARC field /subfield in a bibliographic record (in order to "concatenate" the strings of the several occurrences to another MARC field / subfield) |
| 17:52 | ? | |
| 17:52 | * chris_n | 's head swims |
| 17:53 | ricardo | chris_n: Maybe I'm not being clear enough? |
| 17:54 | chris_n | ricardo: more likely my understanding (or lack thereof) of MARC stuff in general :-) |
| 17:54 | ricardo | chris_n: Ah, OK :) |
| 17:55 | Then, to the "larger" audience: | |
| 17:55 | This is UNIMARC, but it could be MARC 21 just as well... Imagine, that I have a Record with 2 occurrences of the 300 field (Notes), and each of them has only the subfield "a" filled in | |
| 17:55 | like: | |
| 17:55 | 300 | |
| 17:55 | a. Purchased | |
| 17:55 | 300 | |
| 17:55 | a. 20 USD | |
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| 17:56 | ricardo | I now want to copy those two informations to the 010 tag, subfield "d" and I want that one to have the information, like so |
| 17:56 | 010 | |
| 17:56 | d. Purchased; 20 USD | |
| 17:56 | It's "that" simple ;-) | |
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| 17:57 | chris_n | hi pianohacker |
| 17:57 | owen | Okay, after bumping version back to 52 I get an error from the updater: DB ERROR: Table 'oleonard_koha.labels' doesn't exist |
| 17:57 | pianohacker | Hi chris_n |
| 17:57 | Hi, owen | |
| 17:58 | chris_n | owen: om |
| 17:58 | owen: it appears the upgrade/update has already been applied | |
| 17:59 | so the tools page should have a link for "Label Creator" and no reference to Patron Cards | |
| 17:59 | ricardo | Hi David (schuster) and Jesse (pianohacker)! |
| 17:59 | pianohacker | Hi, ricardo |
| 17:59 | chris_n | ricardo: pianohacker might have your answer |
| 17:59 | pianohacker | Uh-oh |
| 17:59 | chris_n | hehe |
| 17:59 | ricardo | chris_n: OK. Thanks. |
| 18:00 | pianohacker | ricardo: What's up? |
| 18:00 | ricardo | pianohacker: I have a Perl programming question, regarding "MARC::Record" and "MARC::Field" |
| 18:00 | owen | chris_n: That is the case, no patron card mention |
| 18:00 | ricardo | pianohacker: What I want is to "capture" multiple occurrences of the same MARC field /subfield in a bibliographic record (in order to "concatenate" the strings of the several occurrences to another MARC field / subfield) |
| 18:01 | chris_n | owen: then you should be kosher then |
| 18:01 | ricardo | pianohacker: Clear as mud, right? Do you want an example? |
| 18:01 | pianohacker | ricardo: No, that actually makes sense |
| 18:01 | ricardo | pianohacker: Cool :) |
| 18:02 | pianohacker | $record->field( 'my_marc_tag' ) will return a list of MARC::Fields with that tag number |
| 18:03 | Then, for each $field in the results, $field->subfield( 'my_marc_subfield' ) will return a list containing the contents of each occurence of that subfield | |
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| 18:03 | ricardo | pianohacker: OK. I'm guessing that I have to use that in a "list context" ( using the @ sign) and NOT in a "scalar context" (using the $ sign), so I get the several "items" |
| 18:03 | pianohacker: Thanks for the tip! Let me try | |
| 18:03 | pianohacker | ricardo: yes |
| 18:04 | chris_n | did labels go to working for you owen? |
| 18:05 | owen | Everything looks good on first glance. |
| 18:05 | chris_n | ok |
| 18:05 | owen | I'll go look for interface nick-picks now ;) |
| 18:05 | chris_n | owen: feel free to dress up the css/templates etc |
| 18:05 | * chris_n | is no html/css/etc guru :-P |
| 18:05 | pianohacker | chris_n: Run for your life! |
| 18:06 | * chris_n | quickly flings his laptop into the I95 traffic |
| 18:06 | pianohacker | Heh |
| 18:06 | chris_n | puts a whole new meaning on 'mobile computing' |
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| 18:19 | owen | Hi hedgesst, cybrarian |
| 18:23 | hedgesst | hi, owen! |
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| 18:28 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Wb Henri! :) |
| 18:29 | chris | morning |
| 18:29 | pianohacker | Hi, chris |
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| 18:30 | brendan | morning chris, pianohacker ricardo et. al |
| 18:30 | pianohacker | Hi, brendan |
| 18:31 | brendan | if anyones up for it -- I've got a question about zebra |
| 18:31 | chris_n | hi chris |
| 18:32 | brendan | so I'm searching for an author -- named daniélou -- shouldn't I just be able to enter in danielou -- without the ' over the é and find it? |
| 18:33 | just wondering if anyone had some suggestions for me to trace through or read through... | |
| 18:33 | pianohacker | brendan: Yes, but you have to make sure Zebra is set up correctly |
| 18:34 | brendan | you mean mapping charset in zebra.cfg |
| 18:34 | cait_laptop | morning chris |
| 18:34 | pianohacker | brendan: Yes |
| 18:35 | chris | cait_laptop: congrats on you message to the list :) |
| 18:35 | cait_laptop | chris: thx - wanted to do this for some time now, glad we finally sent it today |
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| 18:36 | cait_laptop | I just wondered if it got through because I did not see it |
| 18:36 | hdl_laptop | hi chris |
| 18:36 | cait_laptop | hi hdl |
| 18:36 | hdl_laptop | hi cait_laptop |
| 18:41 | pianohacker | owen: Tested your patch, had a few problems applying against current sysprefs_editor, but it's there. Like the new layout. The highlighting code will need some updates, though, as it's mostly client side |
| 18:42 | Only thing that is server-side highlighted is jumped-to prefs | |
| 18:43 | owen | Hmm... sorry about the patch problems. |
| 18:44 | brendan | pianohacker -- I'm seeing this word-phrase-utf.chr -- is that even utilized by zebra? |
| 18:44 | pianohacker | brendan: I think that is, yes |
| 18:48 | ricardo | pianohacker: Got it to work perfectly! :) |
| 18:48 | pianohacker | ricardo: cool |
| 18:50 | ricardo | pianohacker: Thanks a lot for the tip regarding $record->field( 'my_marc_tag' ) and $record->field( 'my_marc_tag' ) |
| 18:50 | pianohacker | No problem |
| 18:50 | ricardo | (... and " $field->subfield( 'my_marc_subfield' ) ", I mean) |
| 18:50 | pianohacker: :) | |
| 18:53 | hdl_laptop | chris I sent some more patches today |
| 18:53 | I think that with shelves It should be ok | |
| 18:53 | But would be great If it passed all the tests. | |
| 18:54 | chris | cool, ill hopefully get some time at work to day to have a look |
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| 19:35 | Ata | hi all |
| 19:35 | pianohacker | Hello |
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| 19:35 | Ata | can someone update me about release of koha 3.2? |
| 19:36 | cait_laptop | 3.2 feature freeze was last sunday |
| 19:36 | pianohacker | Ata: Possibly an early alpha in October |
| 19:36 | cait_laptop | I think end of november is planned for release |
| 19:37 | Ata | I wonder, the current relase is 3.0 and the upcoming is 3.2, where is 3.1? |
| 19:38 | pianohacker | Ata: No 3.1, unfortunately |
| 19:38 | It would be an unstable release | |
| 19:38 | Closest equivalent would be following git master | |
| 19:38 | Ata | ok thanks @ piano, cait |
| 19:39 | Ropuch | Quite similar to linux kernel numbering rule ;> |
| 19:39 | gmcharlt | Ata: it's following (kinda sorta) linux versioning |
| 19:39 | pianohacker | Ropuch: yup |
| 19:39 | Ropuch | [; |
| 19:39 | gmcharlt | snap |
| 19:39 | Ata | is there any easy way to upgrade from 3.03 to 3.2? |
| 19:39 | gmcharlt | Ata: not quite yet, but will be for alpha release of 3.2 |
| 19:39 | Ata | any updater? |
| 19:39 | pianohacker | There will be upgrade instructions included. It will actually be pretty easy, as it will update the database schema for you |
| 19:40 | Ata | hmmm Ok |
| 19:40 | Thanks all ... it is a great forum...Instant reply... | |
| 19:41 | pianohacker | Happy to help :) |
| 19:41 | Ata | Thanks for positive and promt response @ piano, cait, gmcharlt |
| 19:41 | Take Care and Bye | |
| 19:41 | pianohacker | bye |
| 19:42 | Ropuch | How does the translations work? I've made some suggestion in polish opac .po some times ago and they are still "suggestions" |
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| 19:42 | pianohacker | Ropuch: You made changes in Pootle? |
| 19:43 | Ropuch | Yes |
| 19:43 | Have ~80% made in local test instalation | |
| 19:44 | pianohacker | Ropuch: Those changes are only pulled just before release |
| 19:44 | Ropuch | Oh |
| 19:44 | Ok, thanks | |
| 19:44 | pianohacker | Also, the strings you're translating against will be constantly changing up until the string freeze |
| 19:44 | cait_laptop | ropuch: your suggestions need to be approved |
| 19:44 | i dont know who can approve for polish | |
| 19:44 | I have only the rights for German | |
| 19:44 | ask chris about it | |
| 19:44 | Ropuch | I will |
| 19:45 | cait_laptop | you can download the file from pootle then and use for your installation |
| 19:45 | but strings need approval first i think | |
| 19:46 | Ropuch | My local opac is nearly 80% complete, I've just wanted to share ;> |
| 19:46 | cait_laptop | perhaps ask chris to give you the right to approve, he can also merge your file |
| 19:46 | with the file in pootle | |
| 19:47 | Ropuch | We're going to make koha working in public in month or so |
| 19:47 | pianohacker | translators++ |
| 19:47 | Ropuch | I'll thing about it |
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| 19:48 | cait_laptop | translation is a hard job, still seeing so many strange things... will eidt po-file directly now, because pootle search is acting strange |
| 19:48 | Ropuch | Guess i'll contact some koha users in Poland first, maybe we can form some translate group |
| 19:49 | ep, and translating out-of-context can lead to funny results ;> | |
| 19:49 | cait_laptop | yep |
| 19:50 | I think thats the main problem | |
| 19:50 | I had to kill some cats... because it was translated as the animal and not as abbreviation for category ;) | |
| 19:50 | Ropuch | apart from plural problem |
| 19:50 | hehe | |
| 19:50 | cait_laptop | german is not easy there too |
| 19:50 | and german is often too long, while english is nice and short | |
| 19:51 | Ropuch | Well, we'll have the german version of opac too |
| 19:51 | Hmm | |
| 19:52 | cait_laptop | I think the opac will be ok |
| 19:52 | Ropuch | nice |
| 19:53 | cait_laptop | I need to do some corrections - but our library will go live end of september, so it has to be ready then |
| 19:53 | Ropuch | Well |
| 19:54 | I'm making some crazy moves now, because i want to get rid of our old ils, which sucks | |
| 19:54 | cait_laptop | which is it? |
| 19:54 | pianohacker | Ropuch: What are you using? |
| 19:54 | cait_laptop | jinx? |
| 19:54 | Ropuch | Polsih one, Sowa |
| 19:54 | It's dbf+delphi | |
| 19:55 | pianohacker | cait_laptop: Yeah, that seems to be happening a lot lately |
| 19:55 | Ropuch | Every second i have to launch it i want to torture the gui creator |
| 19:55 | cait_laptop | hehe |
| 19:56 | * chris_n | seems to remember a bug with the news in an earlier 3.0.x version |
| 19:56 | Ropuch | Nevermind, it's song of the past, |
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| 20:05 | pianohacker | Ropuch: Hmm, I can't find much info on that. Do you have a website for it? |
| 20:10 | Ropuch | pianohacker: you mean Sowa? |
| 20:10 | http://www.sokrates.pl/ | |
| 20:11 | hdl_laptop | owen : what do you think about thickbox ? |
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| 20:27 | pianohacker | Ropuch: thanks |
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| 20:29 | * chris_n | heads out |
| 20:30 | Ropuch | pianohacker: from what i can see in "Jobs" they switched/planning to switch from delphi/dbf to postgress/python, but they suck anyway |
| 20:30 | Our it goes berserk every time they had to mess with their stuff | |
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| 20:35 | richard | hi |
| 20:35 | chris | back |
| 20:35 | richard | hiya chris |
| 20:36 | Ropuch | chris: who can approve translation for polish? |
| 20:37 | chris | no one yet, you are the first to ask :) |
| 20:38 | if you join pootle, under my account set your language to polish and let me know your usercode | |
| 20:38 | Ropuch | Strange |
| 20:38 | chris | i can set it up so you can approve |
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| 20:57 | Jo | Morning all |
| 20:57 | chris | heya Jo |
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| 21:02 | chris | hey nengard |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | yo nengard |
| 21:02 | nengard | yo wizzyrea hey chris |
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| 21:05 | hdl_laptop | chris : when shelves are done, we could try and update translations. |
| 21:05 | chris | sounds like a good idea to me hdl_laptop |
| 21:06 | nengard | having some issues with template editing |
| 21:06 | got me a side to side scrollbar - and i don't want that!!! | |
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| 21:18 | wizzyrea | nengard: grats on the new job :D |
| 21:18 | nengard | thanks wizzyrea |
| 21:20 | rhcl | Nicole has a new job? Pray tell... |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ember/010085.html |
| 21:21 | brendan | :D |
| 21:21 | nicomo | :-D |
| 21:21 | brendan | we're excited! |
| 21:21 | rhcl | icic I'm always the last to find out things. Congrats! |
| 21:21 | nengard | rhc1 it just went out like 2 min ago |
| 21:21 | you're not the last | |
| 21:21 | rhcl | Well, I usually am anyway! |
| 21:21 | brendan | news is fast these days though |
| 21:22 | cait_laptop | nengart: grats :) |
| 21:22 | nengard... sorry for the typo | |
| 21:25 | nengard | thank you everyone - and like i said - thanks for being so nice on that chat earlier this month |
| 21:25 | * nengard | making dinner be back soon |
| 21:25 | brendan | enjoy |
| 21:28 | cait_laptop | time to go to bed - good night :) |
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| 21:35 | chris_n2-away is now known as chris_n2 | |
| 21:35 | chris_n2 | congrats nengard |
| 21:36 | nicomo | and with that piece of good news I'll go collapse into bed right now |
| 21:36 | see you tomorrow #koha | |
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| 21:54 | pianohacker | back |
| 21:54 | Hi, nengard, rhcl, wizzyrea | |
| 21:57 | rhcl | Hi Hi |
| 21:57 | chris | hiya pianohacker |
| 21:57 | pianohacker | Hey chris |
| 21:57 | How's it going? | |
| 21:57 | chris | its friday .. so good ;) |
| 21:57 | pianohacker | Very good |
| 21:58 | chris | and the uk finally apologised to alan turing |
| 21:58 | http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page20571 | |
| 21:58 | pianohacker | Wow |
| 21:59 | From the Right Honorable Gordon Brown, no less | |
| 21:59 | Very nice | |
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| 22:26 | gmcharlt | about time |
| 22:26 | chris | yup |
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| 22:35 | * richard | amazed that they even admitted behaving badly |
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| 23:10 | brendan | bug 2629 |
| 23:10 | munin` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2629 major, P1, ---, jmfliblime.com, NEW, Diacritics not being ignored when searching |
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| 23:25 | nengard | question about system preference patches - I have made changes to the OPAC that changes the description of the OPACPatronDetails preference ... do I submit that on the main branch or the sys prefs branch? |
| 23:27 | chris | did you change it on the sysprefs branch? |
| 23:27 | or on the main one? | |
| 23:27 | you probably want to make the change on the sysprefs branch, and send a patch for that | |
| 23:30 | brendan | gmcharlt can always ask you to send it from a different branch if needed |
| 23:31 | gmcharlt | nengard: and you can also send it to jesse first for him to look it over |
| 23:31 | nengard | gmcharlt I can do that - send jesse the description and just submit my patch which i wrote on the main branch |
| 23:31 | they're not dependant on each other | |
| 23:32 | just that one changes the default description needed for the other | |
| 23:37 | Jo | so happy that Bywater and Biblibre have hired Nicole - congrats |
| 23:39 | nengard | thanks Jo |
| 23:41 | pianohacker | nengard: Backlogged with missing prefs, but when I put that in, it will have the right description |
| 23:43 | nengard | thanks pianohacker |
| 23:43 | pianohacker | np, thanks for letting me know |
| 23:43 | nengard | also, i'm on vaca for the next few weeks |
| 23:43 | so if i can help, let me know how | |
| 23:44 | pianohacker | I will, thanks for the offer |
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| 23:54 | Jo | Nicole: now you aren't at Liblime how do people contact you before you start with Paul and Brendan? |
| 23:55 | brendan | Jo -- smoke signals work the best :) |
| 23:56 | nengard | Jo - nengardgmail.com or here or on chat |
| 23:56 | all my contact info is on my website: http://web2learning.net | |
| 23:56 | Jo | smoke signlas ... |
| 23:56 | very cool :) |
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