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12:39 | jwagner | Hi chris -- sorry, been off on another screen. |
12:48 | gmcharlt | jwagner: re your patch for 3532, it appears to be dependant on a prior patch not yet submitted - not seeing where the itemlostloop referred to in the template is coming from |
12:48 | that, or there's some copy-and-paste stuff from cataloge/detail.tmpl that needs to be trimmed from the patron version | |
12:51 | chris_n | g'morning koha |
12:53 | gmcharlt | hi chris_n |
12:56 | slef | can a koha-admin mark Mahalya_Havardssss.gouv.qc.ca nomail please? |
12:57 | hdl_laptop | koha or koha-devel ? |
13:05 | jwagner | gmcharlt, yes, I did copy from the detail.tmpl -- is it just the loop part that needs to come out? FWIW, the patch does work fine on my devel system -- the moremember.tmpl displays correctly. |
13:10 | slef | hdl_laptop: koha |
13:11 | jwagner | gmcharlt, just experimented, and most of the loop stuff can come out of the tmpl file. Works with just <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="itemlost" --> |
13:11 | <span class="lost"><!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="itemlost" --></span> | |
13:11 | <!-- /TMPL_IF --> | |
13:11 | <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="damaged" --> | |
13:11 | <span class="dmg"><!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="itemdamaged" --></span> | |
13:11 | <!-- /TMPL_IF --> | |
13:11 | Do you want me to resubmit? | |
13:21 | gmcharlt | jwagner: please |
13:21 | jwagner | OK, will do a bit later -- got a meeting right now. |
14:15 | gmcharlt, just sent revised patch -- hope everthing made it through the commit process :-) | |
14:23 | gmcharlt | jwagner: cool |
14:41 | jwagner | Got another one in the works for you too, gmcharlt :-) |
14:48 | nahuel, online? | |
14:49 | nahuel | jwagner, of course |
14:49 | :) | |
14:49 | hdl_laptop | back from holidays today |
14:49 | jwagner | Could I get a translation? I'm adding a syspref to control display of the my messaging tab in the OPAC? |
14:50 | Syspref definition is: If on, enables display of My Messaging tab in OPAC patron account and the email/text message settings in OPAC user update tab | |
14:51 | schuster | Galen here? |
14:53 | owen | schuster: use his nick in case his IRC client beeps him when he's mentioned: gmcharlt |
14:53 | nahuel | hdl_laptop, jwagner, Si activé, affiche l'onglet "Mes Messages" dans le compte de l'adhérent à l'OPAC, et la configuration de l'e-mail et du message dans les préférences de l'utilisateur à l'OPAC. |
14:53 | hdl_laptop, t'en pense quoi ? | |
14:55 | hdl_laptop | jwagner: go with nahuel translation |
14:55 | jwagner | nahuel, merci beaucoup! |
14:55 | nahuel | héhé |
14:55 | you're welcome ! | |
15:05 | gmcharlt | hi schuster |
15:12 | jwagner | nahuel, it's Bug 3535 -- hope the translated string goes through. |
15:12 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3535 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagnerptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Add syspref to control display of My Messaging tab in OPAC |
15:12 | nahuel | ok |
15:13 | kf | hi nahuel - I saw that renewals can be defined in circ matrix in biblibre's Koha - will this feature be in 3.2? I think its not on the road map |
15:13 | nahuel | kf, Hi, it should, but ask to gmcharlt :) |
15:14 | gmcharlt | kf: it will be added, albeit with a little refactoring |
15:14 | kf | great! |
17:04 | joetho | It's Monday here in Mondayville. |
17:29 | kf | bye #koha |
18:00 | fredericd | Anyone knows what's the difference between tests places in t directory and those found in xt directory? |
18:00 | pianohacker | fredericd: xt seems to be mostly code-correctness related tests |
18:01 | gmcharlt | xt - primarily author tests |
18:01 | t - functinal and unit tests | |
18:02 | fredericd | thks |
18:02 | I'm diving into Koha test cases... | |
18:02 | It's a world... | |
18:02 | Where would you put a test verifying syspref coherence between languages? | |
18:02 | gmcharlt | xt |
18:03 | fredericd++ # test cases | |
18:07 | fredericd | gmcharlt: It's related to my attempt to deal with your 3 weeks old demand of a test case on bug 3226... |
18:07 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3226 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, jmfliblime.com, RESOLVED FIXED, Extended characters aren't always properly displayed on resultat page when XSLT is on |
18:07 | fredericd | I have first to understand test cases :-) |
19:35 | chris | morning |
19:37 | gmcharlt | hi chris |
19:38 | jwagner | morning, chris |
19:52 | chris | off to catch the bus |
20:42 | richard | hi |
20:42 | pianohacker | Hello |
20:44 | chris | back at work |
20:45 | pianohacker | Good morning |
20:45 | chris++ # by the way, like the new About page | |
20:45 | chris | cool |
20:56 | chris_n | and pianohacker |
20:56 | pianohacker | Hi, chris_n |
20:57 | chris | heya chris_n |
20:57 | and wizzyrea | |
20:59 | Jo | Morning all |
21:00 | chris | hi Jo |
21:10 | wizzyrea | hi everybody :) |
21:11 | pianohacker | Hello |
21:11 | owen | What's up wizzyrea? |
21:12 | wizzyrea | oh, just wishing that today were more weekend |
21:12 | there was not enough to go around this time | |
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00:31 | chris | @quote random |
00:31 | munin | chris: Quote #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.... eventually, ye shall stop asking." (added by gmcharlt at 08:31 PM, July 09, 2009) |
00:56 | Elven_Thief | i've got a question about the independantbranches option... |
00:56 | does enabling that affect the Marc record matching systems? | |
00:57 | say I'm importing data from 2 libraries and they have the same book - if it would match by one of my rules, does it prevent matching because this option is turned on? | |
00:57 | chris | i dont think so |
00:58 | i think it will still match | |
00:58 | Elven_Thief | ok. |
00:59 | how about identical barcodes? can I get away with that? | |
00:59 | chris | nope |
00:59 | items.barcode has a unique constraint on it, | |
00:59 | actually let me check that | |
01:00 | ohh nope, it no longer does | |
01:00 | Elven_Thief | well, i'm not too worried about the constraint in SQL and more worried about the import tools |
01:01 | chris | well the constraint in SQL would trump whatever the import tools do anyway |
01:01 | Elven_Thief | right right |
01:01 | chris | so now that constraint has been removed, you might be able to get away with it |
01:02 | Elven_Thief | well, i know the import tools are catching matching barcodes from different marc sets (each one from a different library) and basically not adding those data items |
01:02 | er just items | |
01:02 | i'm going to run a few tests and get back here if i have more questions | |
01:02 | chris | even if you could insert them, the more important thing would be if circulation handled them properly |
01:03 | Elven_Thief | right |
01:03 | chris | rather than you ending up with items you cant ever issue |
01:03 | Elven_Thief | well, i'm also worried about items never getting imported as well |
01:03 | chris | i *think* and i might be wrong, that circulation assumes uniqueness of barcodes |
01:05 | Elven_Thief | ok |
01:05 | * chris | checks the GetItem subroutine |
01:05 | Elven_Thief | what file is that in? |
01:05 | chris | C4/Items.pm |
01:05 | Elven_Thief | rgr |
01:05 | chris | its what C4/Circulation.pm uses |
01:05 | given a barcode, to get the item | |
01:06 | Elven_Thief | ok. yeah. it appears that matching barcodes belonging to different libraries will be ignored on input |
01:06 | chris | yeah it doesnt seem to do anything other than |
01:06 | SELECT * FROM items WHERE barcode = ?" | |
01:06 | Elven_Thief | ok |
01:06 | er import, not input | |
01:06 | chris | and then return the first row |
01:07 | so if you wanted to have duplicate barcodes, that would need to be changed to take a library code as input as well | |
01:07 | Elven_Thief | yeah |
01:07 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
01:07 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.9�C (6:04 PM PDT on August 17, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Falling). |
01:07 | Elven_Thief | that or batch process a prefix to the barcodes and hack the library code into the matching system |
01:08 | chris | yeah, thats the other option |
01:08 | or another option :) | |
01:08 | you in the US Elven_Thief ? | |
01:08 | Elven_Thief | yeah |
01:09 | chris | west coast im guessing? |
01:09 | Elven_Thief | central, actually |
01:09 | chris | wisconsin? |
01:09 | Elven_Thief | yeah |
01:10 | i had a friend say "you know linux. help me set this up for my school district" | |
01:10 | chris | ahhh |
01:10 | you know of scls ? | |
01:10 | http://www.scls.info/ | |
01:11 | http://scls.typepad.com/link2koha/ | |
01:11 | Elven_Thief | nope |
01:11 | chris | they are in the process of migrating to Koha |
01:11 | dunno if they are near you or not | |
01:11 | but they have a bunch of librarians, who might be able to help with library type questions :) | |
01:12 | * chris | is in nz .. everything is pretty near here ;) |
01:12 | Elven_Thief | they are near me, but the school district has a competant person who can answer my questions |
01:12 | chris | sweet |
01:13 | i was more thinking koha librarian questions, that your librarian might even have :) | |
01:13 | Elven_Thief | it's just digging into the system and figuring out the ways of updating barcodes, item types and holdings. |
01:13 | ah | |
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03:35 | Amit | hi chris, brendan |
03:35 | good morning #koha | |
03:49 | brendan | hiya Amit |
03:49 | anything new | |
03:50 | Amit | no |
03:50 | brendan: from your side | |
03:50 | brendan: I am planning for doing MLsc. | |
03:51 | brendan | nothing at the moment |
03:51 | sleep soon :) | |
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04:47 | brendan | good night #koha |
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05:29 | kmkale | Good morning all |
05:43 | greenmang0 | kmkale: good morning :) |
05:43 | @wunder mumbai | |
05:43 | munin | greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 27.0�C (10:40 AM IST on August 18, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
05:43 | kmkale | GM greenmang0 |
05:44 | are you in Mumbai? | |
05:44 | greenmang0 | kmkale: yeah... |
05:45 | kmkale: you must have guessed it by mumbai's temperature ;) | |
05:45 | kmkale | greenmang0: cool. I am in Thane on the border on Mumbai ;) |
05:45 | greenmang0 | kmkale: oh.. i thought in pune |
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06:47 | kf | morning #koha |
07:48 | chris | hi kf (and everyone else) |
07:49 | kf | hi chris |
07:49 | there is a German Koha library: http://public.opac.battern.de/[…]koha/opac-main.pl | |
07:50 | Amit | hi kf |
07:50 | chris | oh cool |
07:51 | wow thats an old one alright | |
07:51 | Amit | kf: i think this is koha-2.2.9 |
07:51 | version | |
07:51 | chris | 1.2.3 |
07:51 | circa 2002 | |
07:51 | Amit | oh! |
07:52 | kf | there is not much information, its located in a pharmacy |
07:52 | chris | yep, i remember now |
07:52 | http://www.qype.co.uk/place/65[…]Apotheke-Muenchen | |
07:53 | kf | you remember? |
07:54 | chris | i had seen this before |
07:55 | kf | ah :) |
07:55 | I thought you were there | |
07:56 | chris | well i have been to munich ... maybe i walked past it :) |
07:57 | kf | :) |
08:25 | nahuel | good morning & night @ all ): |
08:25 | :) | |
08:47 | kf | good morning nahuel |
08:50 | hdl_laptop | hi |
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13:36 | Ropuch | Hello |
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13:39 | brendan | morning #koha |
13:40 | Ropuch | afternoon |
13:40 | ;> | |
13:40 | brendan | well I guess morning here :) |
13:40 | Ropuch | I won't argue |
13:42 | Anybody familiar wih AuthDisplayHierarchy variable? I wonder what it shuold do | |
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14:04 | ccurry | I used bulkmarcimport.pl to import bibs and auths; everything worked well, except links between bibs and auths. Every one of my authority records says "0 biblio(s)" in the "Used in" column. Can someone point me to documentation that will help me resolve this issue? |
14:11 | hdl_laptop | Ropuch: I al |
14:11 | am | |
14:11 | In fact, I wrote it | |
14:12 | ccurry: Links between authorities and bibs are not automatically set. | |
14:12 | ccurry | Oh, yeah. Also used bulkauthimport.pl, then indexed all using rebuild_zebra.pl. |
14:12 | hdl_laptop | ccurry: you have to use a tool for that. |
14:12 | Ropuch | hdl_laptop: I've found it in syspref in form of sql insert statement |
14:12 | ccurry | Aren't they...? |
14:12 | Great! | |
14:12 | Can you point me to it's likely location? | |
14:13 | its* | |
14:13 | hdl_laptop | in order to set $9 to authid number in bibliorecord. |
14:13 | build_authorities.pl | |
14:13 | in misc/migration_tools | |
14:14 | or misc/link_bibs_to_authorities.pl | |
14:14 | ccurry | didn't see that (using 3.0.1); how about /usr/share/koha/bin/link_bibs_to_authorities.pl |
14:15 | ah...you just said that. | |
14:15 | Thanks. | |
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14:22 | nahuel | http://www.google.fr/insights/[…]/#q=koha&cmpt=geo |
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15:17 | ccurry | hdl_laptop:(et al) Running link_bibs_to_authorities.pl now, but getting repeated error "CCL parsing error (10014) Right truncation not supported ZOOM at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 237." Can anyone translate this for me? The script doesn't have a status indicator, but I assume that only some bibs are throwing this error (maybe because there are no related authority records?). ... |
15:17 | ...Thanks for your time. If this error indicates that the script is not running properly, I'd like to nip it in the bud. | |
15:19 | hdl_laptop | ccurry: which marcflavour are you using ? |
15:19 | ccurry: which configuration are you using for authorities ? | |
15:19 | DOM or GRS-1 ? | |
15:21 | ccurry | hdl_laptop:marc21; don't know the answer to the second question...the authority records were included in the same .mrc export from our old catalog. Are there distinguishing features to each configuration that I'd be able to pick out? |
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15:23 | hdl_laptop | DOM shouldbe the best suitable choice for you if you are to use HEadings with authorities in MARC21. |
15:40 | ccurry | hdl_laptop: are you saying that the error message I saw is related to the authority record configuration? |
15:41 | hdl_laptop | It is related to the zebra configuration for your authorities. |
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16:05 | ccurry | hdl_laptop: can you point me to documentation that explains configuring zebra to use dom? I found the config files (zebra-authorities.cfg, zebra-authorities-dom.cfg, et al.), but cannot see how these files could be changed to use dom instead of grs-1. |
16:05 | hdl_laptop: or is this a syspref change? | |
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16:26 | ccurry | anyone?:can you point me to documentation that explains configuring zebra to use dom? I found the config files (zebra-authorities.cfg, zebra-authorities-dom.cfg, et al.), but cannot see how these files could be changed to use dom instead of grs-1. |
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17:32 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
17:32 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 03:50 PM, July 31, 2009) |
17:33 | jdavidb | lol |
17:33 | Hi, wizzyrea! :) | |
17:34 | wizzyrea | hehe hi |
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18:17 | pianohacker | Good, well, afternoon |
18:18 | jdavidb | Howdy, pianohacker. |
18:18 | pianohacker | Hallo |
18:25 | * owen | files an enhancement request for a pony to go along with wizzyrea's Bug 3538 |
18:25 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3538 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulainbiblibre.com, NEW, Create additional templates for staff client for maximum accessibility |
18:26 | wizzyrea | ooh ponies! |
18:26 | jdavidb | Everyone likes ponies. |
18:26 | * wizzyrea | ducks |
18:26 | pianohacker | And a new red bike, with the racing stripes! |
18:27 | * wizzyrea | wants fancy ajax happiness, but must appease the accessibility gods |
18:28 | owen | I don't think a separate set of templates is the solution, except maybe for some very specialized interfaces like addibiblio |
18:28 | Everything else should degrade gracefully | |
18:29 | I'd rather see individual bug reports for instances which don't degrade gracefully | |
18:36 | wizzyrea | well ok, i'll delete it then. |
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19:08 | jdavidb | Hrm...is there something that can be set in a bib or item rec that can cause something to be un-searchable, hidden, though you can still get at it from the reservoir list? It's got a biblionumber, but it's just *not* searchable! |
19:10 | gmcharlt | jdavidb: it's an indexing problem - there's nothing to completely suppress a record from *staff* searches |
19:11 | jdavidb | Okay. That narrows things down somewhat. |
19:11 | Zebraqueue shows it *got* indexed...I'm thinking of resetting "done" to zero, and rebuilding with -v on, see what happens. | |
19:12 | gmcharlt | yup |
19:15 | jdavidb | I'll be. Worked, that time. |
19:15 | (But, I'm not going to manually do that every time they add bib records!) | |
19:19 | gmcharlt | jdavidb: are you cronning rebuild_zebra for regular index updates? |
19:19 | jdavidb | yep. |
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19:21 | jdavidb | Hrm. When I -v'd the cron, I got the extract, but *no* indexing output. Sounds like it's having trouble finding zebra? |
19:22 | gmcharlt | PATH issues? |
19:22 | jdavidb | possibly. |
19:23 | PERL5LIB is defined, as is KOHA_CONF...that much looks right. | |
19:25 | zebraidx is in /usr/local/bin, and that's plausible... | |
19:26 | gmcharlt | not necessarily for a crontab, though |
19:26 | jdavidb | *nod* |
19:27 | ccurry | Can anyone explain to me why running link_bibs_to_authorities.pl would return the following error: CCL parsing error (10014) Right truncation not supported ZOOM at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 237? hdl_laptop told me it had something to do with zebra's authorities configuration (DOM vs GRS-1), but I can't figure out how to configure this correctly. Koha 3.0.1 on Debian Lenny,... |
19:27 | ...MARC21 records. Thanks. | |
19:28 | A pointer to documentation would be sufficient. | |
19:29 | By the way, the script finishes with the following result: http://pastebin.com/d423ac9ec | |
19:30 | jdavidb | sure enough, gmcharlt. Something is munging PATH in the case of cron jobs....grrr. |
19:36 | gmcharlt | ccurry: do you know if you installed using DOM or GRS-1? If you don't know offhand, grep your koha-conf.x l for zebra-authorities.cfg and let me know if it references zebra-authorites-dom.cfg or zebra-authorites.cfg |
19:36 | or rather, grep for 'zebra-authorities' | |
19:37 | ccurry | I already looked at koha-conf, and now that I think about it, I did choose DOM during the installation. |
19:38 | gmcharlt | hmm - which is what you want since you're using MARC21 |
19:38 | ccurry | gmcharlt: koha-conf references zebra-authorites-dom.cfg, so it appears the config is correct. |
19:42 | gmcharlt | ccurry: OK - if you can shoot me an example MARC bib and authority from your config (preferably a pair that has mathcing headings, natch), I |
19:42 | I'll test locally | |
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19:44 | ccurry | gmcharlt: Thanks: do you need the original MARC records I imported or would records copied from koha work; they shouldn't be much different I suppose. |
19:45 | gmcharlt | ccurry: either will work |
19:45 | ccurry | gmcharlt: great! just a sec. |
19:51 | gmcharlt: sorry for the wait; my import files are huge, so it'd take forever to find a matching pair in there and I'm having trouble getting a straight MARC display of the authority record without tabs an such. I'll keep poking around. | |
19:52 | gmcharlt | ccurry: ok |
19:54 | * chris | wanders off to catch his bus |
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20:02 | ccurry | gmcharlt: can't get the data I need in the right format and I may have discovered another problem. Thanks anyway. |
20:03 | * pianohacker | is about ready to throw his computer and its confusing problems with empty URL parameters against the wall |
20:14 | * chris_n | empathizes with pianohacker |
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20:16 | pianohacker | How's your labels rewrite going? |
20:25 | chris_n | pianohacker: just debugging a migration script to take the db from the old tables to the new |
20:25 | existing db's I should say | |
20:26 | pianohacker | Cool |
20:26 | chris_n | tomorrow I'll migrate the production koha here and let my catalogers have a whack at it |
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20:27 | chris_n | I still have to tidy up, fix the broken tests I wrote at the beginning, finish POD and fix updatedatabase.pl |
20:28 | maybe end of this week first of next it will be ready for submission | |
20:28 | gmcharlt | chris_n++ |
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20:30 | richard | hi |
20:30 | chris_n | then I'll move on to finishing up the patron card tool |
20:30 | hi richard | |
20:30 | richard | hi chris_n |
20:30 | * chris_n | heads out to find food |
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20:45 | chris | made it |
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21:00 | wizzyrea | ok I need an opinion: is this change one that would be appropriate for the community (or partial, like the note about which fields show on the transit slips). I have done this local to our install using jquery, but I'm trying to decide whether to submit a real change to the templates for the changes http://screencast.com/t/wqeNqdyuzQN |
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21:08 | * chris | looks |
21:08 | pianohacker | I like the transit slip note |
21:08 | chris | yes |
21:08 | id submit that | |
21:09 | cos then its translatable | |
21:09 | pianohacker | Not sure about the primary/alternate change; I know atz has mentioned that Europeans tend to use those literally; personal email is the employee's home email, and work email is a contact at their workplace |
21:10 | chris | yeah, but it will be translated for them anyway :) |
21:10 | * chris | has an en-NZ translation of the opac and intranet |
21:11 | chris | the default is all americany anyway |
21:11 | so making it more americany isn't a problem IMHO | |
21:11 | since we can just have regional translations | |
21:11 | pianohacker | Ahh, good point |
21:38 | brb, going to work | |
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21:48 | wizzyrea | Hmm good points all |
21:48 | i think I will add the transit slips notes. | |
21:48 | it's trivial to change the labels | |
21:48 | (with jquery) | |
21:48 | I miss atz | |
21:49 | @seen atz | |
21:49 | munin | wizzyrea: atz was last seen in #koha 5 days, 6 hours, 35 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <atz> it kindof ignores that the developer might not be writing the specs, and the buyer might not even use the software |
21:49 | wizzyrea | ./sob |
21:50 | chris | he's having a well deserved holiday, im sure we will see him again |
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22:46 | digitalfredy | hi chris , i continue working for win implementation of koha in a University in Colombia :) |
22:46 | chris | cool |
22:48 | digitalfredy | chris, i am searching the implementation guide |
22:48 | i see it some das ago | |
22:48 | but not remember where is | |
22:49 | yes i find it | |
22:49 | :) | |
22:49 | check list | |
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23:12 | pianohkr|work | Glad we could be of service |
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