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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 20:41 | richard | hi |
| 20:42 | chris | hi richard |
| 20:42 | richard | hey chris |
| 00:37 | chris | finally made it gmcharlt ? |
| 00:37 | gmcharlt | yep |
| 00:37 | not the quickest of trips | |
| 00:37 | not too bad when things are running on time | |
| 00:38 | chris | *nod* |
| 00:38 | gmcharlt | when they aren't, you can sometimes beat it driving |
| 00:40 | time to find some food | |
| 00:40 | bbiab | |
| 00:55 | chris | so far so good |
| 00:55 | sunny | |
| 00:59 | chris_n2 | it was 37 deg C here today |
| 01:00 | chris | not that hot either :) |
| 01:00 | @wunder wellington,nz | |
| 01:00 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on August 10, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Falling). |
| 01:00 | chris_n2 | and its supposed to be 38+ here |
| 01:00 | tomorrow | |
| 01:00 | pie | heh, what other things does @wunder do? |
| 01:00 | chris_n2 | @wunder 28334 |
| 01:00 | munin | chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 30.0°C (8:41 PM EDT on August 09, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising). Heat advisory in effect from 11 am to 8 PM EDT Monday... |
| 01:01 | pie | wow, 11am 'til 8pm ... that's stinkin' hot :) |
| 01:01 | chris_n2 | the humidity is the killer here |
| 01:01 | pie | ah |
| 01:01 | chris | pie: munin does a few things like |
| 01:02 | @gcalc 37 celsius as fahrenheit | |
| 01:02 | munin | chris: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 01:02 | chris | if i could spell |
| 01:02 | @gcalc 10NZD as USD | |
| 01:02 | munin | chris: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 01:02 | gmcharlt | @gcalc 37 C as F |
| 01:02 | munin | gmcharlt: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 01:02 | pie | heh, it hits Google :) |
| 01:02 | chris_n2 | maybe google is in bed |
| 01:02 | gmcharlt | @gcalc 37 degrees C in F |
| 01:02 | munin | gmcharlt: 37 degrees Celsius = 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit |
| 01:02 | chris | there we go |
| 01:02 | @karma | |
| 01:02 | munin | chris: Highest karma: "paul_p" (54), "hdl_laptop" (40), and "chris" (36). Lowest karma: "<!" (-10), "failed" (-9), and "<-" (-5). You (chris) are ranked 3 out of 353. |
| 01:03 | gmcharlt | @gcalc 10NZD in USD |
| 01:03 | munin | gmcharlt: 10 New Zealand dollars = 6.71800 U.S. dollars |
| 01:03 | pie | @gcalc 1 usd in nzd |
| 01:03 | munin | pie: 1 U.S. dollar = 1.48853826 New Zealand dollars |
| 01:03 | pie | awesome :) |
| 01:03 | chris | @quote random |
| 01:03 | munin | chris: Quote #12: "<owen> Every time you check in a book a little video loads and Nancy Pearl recites her capsule review of it." (added by gmcharlt at 06:36 PM, July 06, 2009) |
| 01:03 | pie | hehe |
| 01:28 | bob | hi with upgrading a koha v3 to newer instance do i just place the tarball over the existing install - or do i put it in a new directory? |
| 01:31 | chris | no to the first question :) |
| 01:32 | bob | ok |
| 01:32 | chris | what is the version you are replacing? |
| 01:32 | bob | so if i'm going from v3.0.0 to 3.0.3 |
| 01:32 | chris | ok |
| 01:32 | you untar the 3.0.3 one | |
| 01:32 | then cd into it | |
| 01:33 | bob | uhuh |
| 01:33 | chris | then run perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log |
| 01:34 | the path is probably something like /somewhere/koha-3.00.00/blib/MISC_DIR/koha-install-log | |
| 01:34 | bob | ah yep read that bit in INSTALL file - just wasn't clear about where to put the tar file |
| 01:34 | chris | right next to it :) |
| 01:35 | bob | ok thanks |
| 01:39 | chris | gmcharlt: you about? |
| 01:39 | gmcharlt | chris: yep |
| 01:40 | chris | so, if you were fixing a koha for a german company who installed it for a romanian university |
| 01:40 | and who choose MARC21 instead of UNIMARC | |
| 01:40 | (luckily not in production yet) | |
| 01:41 | would you try to switch it over, or just burn it down and reinstall (trying to save as much of their sysprefs etc as you could) | |
| 01:44 | i was thinking i could truncate marc_tag_structure and marc_subfield_structure | |
| 01:44 | switch the syspref | |
| 01:44 | and fix zebra | |
| 01:44 | then notice the 8 things i missed probably | |
| 01:47 | gmcharlt | that plan should work |
| 01:47 | w/o too much trouble | |
| 01:47 | the main thing would be the item conversion | |
| 01:48 | if they've already loaded items | |
| 01:48 | as the default UNIMARC item mapping is rather different form the MARC21 one | |
| 01:48 | would also need to go through bibs | |
| 01:48 | and make sure that framework codes are set correctly | |
| 01:49 | chris | ahh yeah, nope luckily they havent started on the bibliographic data |
| 01:55 | gmcharlt | in that case shouldn't be much trouble at all |
| 01:55 | are they translating the OPAC? | |
| 01:56 | chris | into romanian, i hope so |
| 01:57 | gmcharlt | @later tell hdl_laptop plan for this week re intregration - ILS-DI on merge-to-HEAD branch Monday or Tuesday, new_acq Wednesday or Thursday, by Friday list of all other stuff I'll want you to revise ;) |
| 01:57 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:35 | BobB | Hi |
| 02:52 | chris | hiya BobB |
| 02:56 | gmcharlt | hi BobB |
| 02:59 | BobB | Hi, hope all is well. Daytime in Florida? |
| 03:03 | A client records Condition of items. I think it should go at Holdings level but can't find an appropriate 952 field. Have you struck this? Irma is not here to ask. | |
| 03:03 | chris | like if it is torn or damaged? |
| 03:04 | gmcharlt | BobB: no, a bit past 23:00 (and I'm actually sitting in a hotel room in Atlanta ;)) |
| 03:04 | BobB | They use Good, Fair, Poor. I think the Damaged field is not quite appropriate. |
| 03:07 | gmcharlt | BobB: my first inclination would be a custom item subfield tied to an authorized value |
| 03:07 | BobB | Atlanta - so you've started at Equinox. Congratulations. |
| 03:07 | gmcharlt | BobB: thanks |
| 03:08 | BobB | Galen, will you have to relocate or can you work at distance? |
| 03:08 | gmcharlt | I'll be telecommuting for a while, but the idea is for me to relocate as soon as I can |
| 03:09 | BobB | Big changes in your life. Is the family OK with that? |
| 03:12 | gmcharlt | yes - just my wife and I, and naturally we discussed it thoroughly :) |
| 03:12 | Amit | hi chris, brendan |
| 03:13 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:13 | gmcharlt | hi Amit |
| 03:13 | Amit | hi galen |
| 03:13 | chris | hi Amit |
| 03:13 | Amit | chris: how is your weekend |
| 03:14 | BobB | Chris, something not used, such as 952 f ? |
| 03:14 | Amit | hi BobB |
| 03:15 | BobB | Hi Amit, greetings from Sydney. I'm new to this IRC caper - more Irma's territory but she is not here. |
| 03:16 | chris | BobB: yes, i think that was what galen was suggesting, something not used already and tying it to an authorised value |
| 03:18 | BobB | Thanks Galen and Chris, will do that. |
| 03:20 | Best wishes Galen for the new start. | |
| 03:20 | gmcharlt | BobB: thanks again |
| 05:23 | hdl_laptop | hi |
| 05:23 | back from holidays | |
| 05:28 | BobB | Bonjour HDL: Ou est-ce que on va en vacances quand on habite deja au sud de France? |
| 05:31 | To us in Australia, the south of France is already a dream holiday location. | |
| 05:38 | hdl_laptop | BobB : when you are on the sea shores all year long, you go to mountains. |
| 05:38 | There are less ppl and air is fresher, and beauty of Nature is restfull. | |
| 05:44 | IrmaCalyx | Welcome back in KohaLand HDL! Good to hear you had some R&R (rest and recreation) :-) |
| 06:21 | richard | hi |
| 07:12 | chris | back |
| 07:32 | hi kf and magnusenger | |
| 07:33 | magnusenger | hi chris and everyone! |
| 07:33 | kf | hi chris, magnus and everyone :) |
| 08:32 | Amit | hi kf hdl |
| 08:36 | kf | hi Amit |
| 09:40 | gmcharlt | hi hdl_laptop |
| 09:41 | welcome back | |
| 09:41 | hope the size of your inbox didn't scare you ;) | |
| 09:42 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: not at all |
| 09:43 | But the size of patches to apply quite ;) | |
| 09:43 | chris | heh |
| 09:43 | i wonder if we can do a @time plugin for munin | |
| 09:43 | @time in atlanta ga, usa | |
| 09:43 | munin | chris: downloading the Perl source |
| 09:44 | chris | :) |
| 09:46 | hdl_laptop | hehe. |
| 09:52 | gmcharlt | chris: galen-bot says time in atlanta ga, usa is 05:52 |
| 09:52 | kf | :) |
| 09:54 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: seems like somebody beat you to the punch with an initial CAS SSO patch |
| 09:54 | would appreciate comments on how it relates to BibLibre's efforts | |
| 09:54 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: well it says dirty hack |
| 09:54 | I will review this. | |
| 09:55 | But our implementation could proove to be better. | |
| 09:55 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: it does indeed; it also here, yours isn't :) though I'm sure you've spent more time on your version |
| 09:56 | hdl_laptop | it is on koha-biblibre branch |
| 09:56 | published. | |
| 09:56 | It has not been sent to patches yet because it was on an unstable branch. | |
| 09:58 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: well, consider this impetus to get it submitted, or at least onto a branch I can pull from :) |
| 09:59 | chris | i had a quick look, its not actually to bad |
| 09:59 | hdl_laptop | do you want me to send all the patches from koha-biblibre rebased onto master ? |
| 09:59 | chris | hdl_laptop: is it in here ? http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]bre.git;a=summary |
| 09:59 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: at least get them onto a public branch based on master |
| 10:00 | hdl_laptop | chris :http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]b43eaca3a;hb=HEAD |
| 10:00 | chris | cos we could cherry-pick that into master pretty fast |
| 10:00 | gmcharlt | indeed, though I'd still want the branch-against-master as well |
| 10:00 | chris | yep |
| 10:01 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: It was first based onto master. |
| 10:01 | gmcharlt | it = what? |
| 10:01 | hdl_laptop | But I thought that reconciliation branch would reconcile master and 3.0 |
| 10:02 | chris | heh interesting |
| 10:02 | hdl_laptop | It= our dev branch. |
| 10:03 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: I'm still not see the CAS SSO commit - what's the commit hash? |
| 10:03 | chris | chosen the same module name and subroutine names :) |
| 10:04 | gmcharlt: ahh its a big merge | |
| 10:04 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: Merge am123_dev sur Biblibre_head |
| 10:04 | Adds am123 features on to biblibre_head | |
| 10:04 | gmcharlt | ah - I see is embedded in a merge commit |
| 10:04 | chris | scracth that, no cherry-picking |
| 10:04 | gmcharlt | indeed |
| 10:05 | chris | ive learnt my lesson |
| 10:05 | gmcharlt | no offense, but that's basically completely useless as a cherry-pick or pull target |
| 10:06 | do you still have access to the original branches of development | |
| 10:06 | chris | i think you are going to need to rebase on the original branch, and send patches (or put that branch up) |
| 10:06 | gmcharlt | in order to do a non-squashed merge? |
| 10:06 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: I do. |
| 10:07 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: cool - look forward to the new branch, then |
| 10:07 | hdl_laptop | some more work to do..... |
| 10:08 | chris | speaking of public repo's ... i have been pushing to github for a while |
| 10:08 | but i have set up git-daemon on my machine at home too | |
| 10:08 | gmcharlt | chris: anything you're ready to have me look at to pull? |
| 10:09 | chris | not really |
| 10:09 | one interesting thing is the dbix_class branch | |
| 10:09 | http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]oha.git;a=summary | |
| 10:09 | gmcharlt | even if it's trivial, it occurs to me that doing it and writing up how we did it might be useful material for a tutorial blog post or maiilings to koha-devel |
| 10:09 | chris | lemme check |
| 10:10 | tell ya what | |
| 10:10 | ill do a history.txt update | |
| 10:11 | and commit that, and we can pull that | |
| 10:12 | the thing i found with DBIx::Class is that with the schema files, we can create a db in either mysql or postgres (or oracle or anything that dbix::class supports) without needing special sql files for each | |
| 10:13 | so even if we dont use dbix::class everywhere its a win just for that ;) | |
| 10:15 | hdl_laptop | chris: the hard thing about dvix::class seems to be that schema file is quite hard to read and doesnot allow easy roll back and forth to a version. |
| 10:16 | khatar tried and evaluate some ORMs and thought kiokudb or Jifty could be good choices. | |
| 10:20 | chris | jifty is a full application framework |
| 10:20 | i like that DBIx::Class still lets you get into the nitty gritty if you need to | |
| 10:26 | gmcharlt: http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]ads/documentation | |
| 10:27 | so you can a remote for my repo | |
| 10:27 | git remote add workbuffer.org git://git.workbuffer.org/git/koha.git | |
| 10:28 | then git checkout -b documentation --track workbuffer.org/documentation | |
| 10:28 | (probably need a git fetch workbuffer.org too( | |
| 10:29 | then you can cherry-pick that commit over | |
| 10:29 | thats one way to do it | |
| 10:30 | or you could just checkout a branch | |
| 10:30 | gmcharlt | chris: yeah, I think I'll do it as a pull |
| 10:30 | chris | checkout -b mydocumentation |
| 10:31 | git pull workbuffer.org/documentation | |
| 10:32 | i think that will do it anyway | |
| 10:34 | gmcharlt | yeah, then into my staging branch |
| 10:34 | git checkout test | |
| 10:34 | git merge mydocumentation/documentation | |
| 10:34 | or directly | |
| 10:35 | git merge workbuffer.org/documentation | |
| 10:35 | chris | yep |
| 10:35 | i think the pull will do fetch + merge for ya | |
| 10:35 | gmcharlt | it does indeed |
| 10:35 | fetch first, though | |
| 10:36 | lets you do git log --pretty=oneline test workbuffer.org/documentation | |
| 10:36 | chris | good point |
| 10:37 | gmcharlt | chris: well, let's make it official - send a pull request to the patches list |
| 10:38 | chris | will do |
| 10:38 | gmcharlt | e.g., Subject: PULL - git://git.workbuffer.org/koha.git - documentation - history changes |
| 10:38 | brief description of changes in body | |
| 10:38 | something like that | |
| 10:38 | chris | works for me |
| 10:39 | gmcharlt | "Welcome, all, to DVCS performance theatre" |
| 10:40 | chris | off it goes |
| 10:40 | this was our first git tutorial right there .. quick someone take photos or something :-) | |
| 10:41 | gmcharlt | chris: better send the chat log to nengard before she finds out that we've been committing tutorial without her ;) |
| 10:43 | chris | done :) |
| 10:53 | only if you dont drink the coffee | |
| 10:56 | kf | perhaps you can do some more basic tutorials another time ;) |
| 11:05 | chris | yep we will :) |
| 11:40 | Amit | hi jdavidb |
| 11:59 | jdavidb | Hi, Amit. :) |
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