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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:10 | |Lupin| | is it correct that it isnot possible from within Koha to send e-mails to all the patrons at the same time, please ? |
| 12:12 | gmcharlt | |Lupin|: to every patron at once? now |
| 12:12 | *no | |
| 12:13 | |Lupin| | gmcharlt: okay, thanks ! |
| 12:14 | gmcharlt: just wanted to double check | |
| 12:14 | gmcharlt: what are Koha's possibilities regarding e-mails ? | |
| 12:15 | gmcharlt | |Lupin|: sending out patron notifications, mostly |
| 12:15 | chris | thats only available with the "Koha Spam Plugin ... now with the ability to send html mail to all your patrons twice .. for maximum annoyance" |
| 12:15 | gmcharlt | chris++ |
| 12:16 | chris | and with that, im going to sleep |
| 12:16 | have a good day all | |
| 12:16 | |Lupin| | good night chris |
| 12:17 | gmcharlt: I'm sorry, I don't find the feature you were mentionning... where is it in the web interface ? | |
| 12:24 | gmcharlt | |Lupin|: enhanced messaging attributes, for one |
| 12:27 | kf | documenting opac-features today, is there a catalog using OpacBrowser so that I can see how it does look like? |
| 12:28 | wiki say only works in french dewey catalog | |
| 12:29 | |Lupin| | kf: don't know, sorry |
| 12:30 | okay, have to run | |
| 12:30 | see you later all ! | |
| 12:30 | hdl_laptop | paul_p: is there any opacBrowser on ? |
| 12:30 | paul_p | hdl_laptop & kf: I don't think so. |
| 12:37 | kf | ok, thx |
| 12:38 | paul_p: what does french dewey mean - we have (modified) dewey and MARC21 - UNIMARC needed? | |
| 12:50 | gmcharlt | kf: UDC (universal decimal classification), not DDC (Dewey decimal classification), I suspect |
| 12:50 | the opacbrowser feature should work OK for both UNIMARC and MARC21 | |
| 12:50 | once appropriate configuration tables are created | |
| 12:52 | paul_p | kf: gmcharlt is right. The "only" problem is that we (BibLibre) never took time to integrate into Koha the "browsing description", it's hardcoded into the script. |
| 12:52 | if you want to sponsor this, it should be fairly easy to highly improve the feature (and I have a lot of ideas about how to do that...) | |
| 12:52 | gmcharlt | there's a patch floating around to add English DDC descriptions, but because of potential OCLC copyright issues |
| 12:53 | may need to do the work of adding a configuration file for this so that library can supply their own DDC config table | |
| 12:53 | of course, a config file for this is a good idea anyway | |
| 13:02 | owen | Anyone know the address of AUAF's OPAC? The link on their page is broken: http://www.auaf.edu.af/lib_collections.html |
| 13:02 | Also: Hi everyone! | |
| 13:03 | kf | gmcharlt & paul_p: thx :) but dont get how it its supposed to work or look like |
| 13:04 | gmcharlt & paul_p: so difficult to say, if it would work for us or if the library would be interested in this feature | |
| 13:06 | gmcharlt $ paul_p: perhaps similar to our "browse classification" feature? | |
| 13:07 | https://webpac11.bsz-bw.de/WP.aafh.html ? | |
| 13:08 | paul_p | kf: yes, it's something like that. |
| 13:09 | you "browse" a classification, that looks like a "tree", and when you reach the lowest level, you reach a list of results | |
| 13:09 | what is missing are some table to explain : | |
| 13:09 | - the tree | |
| 13:09 | - how it is filled | |
| 13:09 | for example : | |
| 13:09 | 1-economics | |
| 13:09 | kf | ah, ok, I understand now! |
| 13:09 | paul_p | 1a Personnel management |
| 13:09 | 1b Finances | |
| 13:09 | 2 Law | |
| 13:10 | 2a General | |
| 13:10 | 2b International | |
| 13:10 | ... | |
| 13:10 | then, you would say "biblios fitting this criteria are in this category" | |
| 13:10 | and THIS ... THIS is in a parameter table | |
| 13:10 | for example : biblios with callnumber X are 1a | |
| 13:10 | biblios with callnumber Y are in 1b | |
| 13:11 | ... | |
| 13:11 | you could even say "biblios from author X are 1a" or "biblios from publisher Z are ..." | |
| 13:12 | atm, the only included feature is hardcoded dewey, stored in french | |
| 13:12 | (+ some pending patch in english as said galen) | |
| 13:15 | kf | thx for explaining paul! |
| 13:15 | my job here includes transfering and linking home made classifications to html for opacs - so I really have to test this out sometime | |
| 13:16 | the example I showed you looks not so nice... did it a while ago, but its the only one in english we have :) | |
| 13:20 | paul_p | I learned german at school but... my teachers were poor, the student was not very interested and it was 25 years ago so... |
| 13:22 | kf | never learned french at school :( |
| 13:34 | owen | Hi Wizzyrea_ |
| 13:35 | Wizzyrea_ | heya |
| 13:35 | paul_p | 'morning owen & Wizzyrea_ |
| 13:53 | owen | Does the calendar pop-up widget in the staff client pick up different translations if you're not using English? |
| 13:57 | nicomo | owen: I'm not sure |
| 13:57 | paul_p | owen: nope, it's in english |
| 13:57 | nicomo | it does not just based on the language select within Koha |
| 13:57 | but my browser is in en-US so | |
| 13:59 | owen | I suppose the same is true of the TinyMCE plugin. Are those the only two examples? |
| 14:03 | Snow_Fox | anyone have mark or beverlys email for liblime? |
| 14:07 | gmcharlt | Snow_Fox: beverly.churchliblime.com |
| 14:07 | and mark.bucholtzliblime.com |
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| 14:10 | Snow_Fox | thanks gmcharlt |
| 14:26 | hey just to make sure with the custom reports via SQL if im searching for a specific item say by item id if i wanted to change what that ID is i would have to create a new report, there is no way to edit the sql report after its created, correct? | |
| 14:28 | Sharon | I'm not sure of the version number, but the ability to edit reports was fixed by Chris right after KohaCon |
| 14:29 | Snow_Fox | i wonder if it will be in the 3.2 rollout |
| 14:30 | Sharon | http://www.nexpresslibrary.org/may-27-updates/ < info about the edit feature in reports |
| 14:30 | they keep pushing it back. | |
| 14:31 | Snow_Fox | hrm |
| 14:31 | Sharon | FYI, We're at version: 3.01.00.037 because we have a lot of enhancements, so we have to stay at the bleeding edget |
| 14:31 | edge | |
| 14:31 | Snow_Fox | i bet that gets tiring |
| 14:31 | all the blood and what not | |
| 14:31 | :-p | |
| 14:32 | Sharon | We have pretty resilient librarians, but they get tired of the instability |
| 14:32 | Snow_Fox | ok the edit button is def on the liblime demo |
| 14:32 | so yay | |
| 14:35 | well | |
| 14:35 | unless | |
| 14:35 | the demo is a lie | |
| 14:35 | :-p | |
| 14:36 | gmcharlt | Snow_Fox: the edit feature has been in the public HEAD for yonks |
| 14:36 | Snow_Fox | k |
| 14:37 | Wizzyrea_ | yonks, that's one i don't hear often |
| 14:37 | Snow_Fox | thats one ive never heard before |
| 14:37 | nuts its not in our test system | |
| 14:37 | :( | |
| 14:37 | gmcharlt | hmm - if you believe http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-yon1.htm, Florida is apparently part of the UK |
| 14:41 | Snow_Fox | uh huh..... |
| 14:46 | gotta love local dialects | |
| 14:50 | owen | Bug 2800 refers to a system pref "maxItemsInSearchResults" which I don't see in my system. |
| 14:50 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2800 normal, P3, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, maxItemsInSearchResults causes confusing display |
| 14:51 | owen | Has that become numSearchResults and OPACnumSearchResults? |
| 14:52 | Snow_Fox | hey ive seen that before |
| 14:53 | |Lupin| | hi again everybody |
| 14:53 | Snow_Fox | from what i was told it was a old value that got into the manual but not actually used |
| 14:53 | there was another in there as well | |
| 14:55 | |Lupin| | when I try to git checkout master, it tells me that my branch is of origin/mastr... could someone please tell me how to go to origin/master anyway ? |
| 14:57 | owen | I guess OPACnumSearchResults refers to titles returned, not items returned. |
| 15:23 | maxItemsInSearchResults must have gotten lost in an updatedatabase somewhere. It seems to work once added manually | |
| 15:25 | Snow_Fox | hrm piano said it was a custom sys pref |
| 15:25 | bev said it was a outdated item | |
| 15:27 | magnusenger | Hi, all! I'm having some trouble with bulkmarcimport today. It looks like e.g. 952$h = 359.00944 Røk is turned into 952$6 = 359_009440000000000_R?K for biblioitems.marc, and then the record in biblioitems.marcxml is cut short at the "?": http://koha.pastebin.com/m31e02404 Anyone have any clues? |
| 15:28 | owen | Snow_Fox: It works, and it's in Search.pm and updatedatabase.pl |
| 15:28 | I'm not sure why my database didn't get updated with it | |
| 15:28 | magnusenger | So any "nordic wowels" (æøå) in 952h results in broken MARCXML |
| 15:29 | All other occurrences of æøå seem to work fine | |
| 15:31 | sorry, that should of course be 952$o, not $h... | |
| 15:34 | I'm munging records from a proprietary Norewgian system, and putting values in 952o with this: if (my $field096 = $record->field('096')) { $field952->add_subfields('o' => $field096->subfield('a')); } Could that somehow result in values in 952o that are not UTF8, if the value of the original 096a is in UTF8? | |
| 15:35 | gmcharlt | magnusenger: yes, it's possible |
| 15:36 | magnusenger | gmcharlt: any way to avoid it? |
| 15:36 | gmcharlt | perldoc Encode # for one way of ensuring that the values are converted to UTF8 |
| 15:36 | |Lupin| | pls, what's the blib directory ? |
| 15:37 | gmcharlt | |Lupin|: temporary directly created when you ran Makefile.PL. Safe to delete it after installation |
| 15:38 | magnusenger | gmcharlt: thanks, i'll have a look at it |
| 15:43 | |Lupin| | for a dev install ? |
| 15:43 | gmcharlt: even for a dev install ? | |
| 15:43 | gmcharlt | |Lupin|: yes |
| 15:47 | hdl_laptop | magnusenger: I will be posting a patch proposing a function to ensure marcrecord data are utf8 encoded and donot get double encoded with manipulations |
| 15:50 | Sharon | we've lost access to our catalog...ugh |
| 15:50 | owen | http://nekls.kohalibrary.com/ ? |
| 15:51 | Sharon | yep |
| 15:51 | owen | Works for me! |
| 15:51 | gmcharlt | Sharon: works for me as well |
| 15:51 | Sharon | well crap, i wonder what the hell is going on. |
| 15:54 | paul_p | Sharon: it works even from France ;-) |
| 15:54 | magnusenger | hdl_laptop: sounds like a good idea! ;-) |
| 15:54 | paul_p | and I even have the french version of the OPAC :D |
| 15:54 | Sharon | it's hit/miss some libraries can get into some sites, but not others...and liz is home sick! |
| 15:54 | how does "nexpress" translate?? | |
| 15:55 | rhcl | Sharon - We just had a complete Internet outage here--maybe affecting you too? We're good now though. |
| 15:55 | paul_p | Sharon: it doesn't. It just means I have the "koha strings" in french. not the catalogue or your header, footer or left menu |
| 15:56 | Sharon | that would explain why they can't get into amazon.com...I'll preach patience and hope for the best. |
| 15:57 | rhcl | Yea, our "ISP" said it was a teleco problem, so it could affect you too I suppose. |
| 15:57 | telco | |
| 15:58 | owen | Sharon: I have a very hard time getting my staff to give me accurate reports in these situations |
| 15:58 | "Koha is down" could mean Koha is down, it could mean the internet is down. | |
| 15:58 | I could mean they're typing in their password incorrectly :| | |
| 15:58 | Sharon | I have Diana out on the front lines now, so I can get accurate reports for her - with 'parts' of the internet being down, I think rhcl has it right |
| 15:59 | paul_p | last saturday I had a phone call of a SAN-OP librarian (the regular staff is in holiday) saying "hey, zebra is down". 10mn later, new call "oups, sorry, it's not zebra, it's the internet. We have nothing at all". Fortunatly, I was not on my phone, so got the 2 messages 20mn after that ;-) |
| 16:00 | Sharon | Yep, our ISP is investigating the outage |
| 16:01 | rhcl | Sharon: sorry, where are you again? |
| 16:01 | Sharon | Kansas |
| 16:01 | Lawrence | |
| 16:01 | rhcl | Rgr |
| 16:01 | cait | Sharon: logos are missing for me |
| 16:03 | Sharon | ...and we're doing a program on cloud computing in a couple of weeks at our Tech Day workshop...I think I'll gloss over this part |
| 16:13 | wizz-work | can any of you get to catalog.nexpresslibrary.org? It looks like it should be resolving from here but it isn't connecting |
| 16:13 | it's getting lost in translation somewhere | |
| 16:14 | chris | i can |
| 16:15 | and no, dont ask why im awake at 4.15am looking at koha catalogues | |
| 16:15 | wizz-work | lulz |
| 16:17 | Sharon | it's back up |
| 16:18 | Snow_Fox | you droped off too? |
| 16:18 | wizz-work | oh was yours not working either snow? |
| 16:18 | Snow_Fox | ya |
| 16:18 | wizz-work | must have been some kind of kansas DNS deal |
| 16:18 | who's your isp? | |
| 16:19 | Snow_Fox | Cox |
| 16:19 | you? | |
| 16:19 | wizz-work | kanren |
| 16:19 | Snow_Fox | strange |
| 16:19 | wizz-work | and it's not like we host your DNS |
| 16:19 | Snow_Fox | must have been further up the pipe |
| 16:19 | wizz-work | (which was my first thought, because we host nexpresslibrary.org from here) |
| 16:19 | and kohalibrary.com was resolving | |
| 16:20 | but nexpresslibrary.org wasn't | |
| 16:20 | were you going to a kohalibrary.com address or something custom of your own? | |
| 16:20 | Snow_Fox | kanren dns servers are backe by cox |
| 16:20 | so its a cox dns issue | |
| 16:20 | wizz-work | oh well there you go |
| 16:20 | Snow_Fox | at least thats what i was told :\ |
| 16:20 | wizz-work | whew, and I rushed into work because I thought it was our DNS server ^.^ |
| 16:21 | (our server is backed up by KanRen, who is apparently backed by cox) | |
| 16:21 | Snow_Fox | me and another tech were out getting food for the potluck |
| 16:21 | wizz-work | well I'm glad to know you snow_fox :) |
| 16:21 | Snow_Fox | heh |
| 16:21 | wizz-work | b/c that means it's not my fault ^.^ |
| 16:21 | Snow_Fox | LOL |
| 16:22 | we lost DNS here so it if it was you did a doozie | |
| 16:22 | paul_p | sounds logic: some computers had DNS cache, so could find the host, some hadn't, so couldn't find the host. |
| 16:23 | wizz-work | bbiab |
| 16:24 | Snow_Fox | well google searchs were bringing up links |
| 16:24 | but they were not going anywhere | |
| 16:31 | rhcl | All KS people: MORE.net tells me there's a telco problem in our area--if it's your problem too then you may see flaky behavior. |
| 16:31 | When it was going on I could get to google sometimes, but not other sites, and email was up and down too. | |
| 16:32 | We're right on the MOKAN border anyway. | |
| 16:33 | Snow_Fox | rhcl: more.net how do you check? |
| 16:35 | rhcl | Well, they do our Internet connections, so I can call tech support. |
| 16:36 | We are a member of a program they have that manages our Internet connections up to their router and our firewall. | |
| 16:38 | Snow_Fox | ah |
| 16:38 | rhcl | -->http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/ Works for me. |
| 16:41 | Snow_Fox | ok |
| 16:41 | i just got details of what happened | |
| 16:41 | apparently a Cox Core router in Oklahoma City barfed | |
| 16:41 | Sharon | I think all is well now, thank goodness |
| 16:43 | Snow_Fox | heh |
| 16:43 | simply put | |
| 16:43 | cox barfed | |
| 16:45 | Sharon | I'll put that in my explanatory email - "Koha was down because a Cox Core router in OKC barfed" |
| 16:45 | Snow_Fox | nah just simply not our problem cox barfed |
| 16:47 | Sharon | I had to have Liz explain DNS to me...I'm learning much geek in this job |
| 16:47 | Snow_Fox | well it wasnt DNS |
| 16:48 | as we had thought | |
| 16:48 | it was active directy service server or a core router | |
| 16:48 | i could be wrong on my terminiology there | |
| 16:48 | Sharon | I didn't even know we had a DNS server here in the office...or that it could go down...or what that would mean to our libraries. |
| 16:48 | Snow_Fox | heh |
| 16:48 | cait | sharon: i know how you feel about learning geek... ) |
| 16:48 | Sharon | but I do now! |
| 16:49 | Snow_Fox | if its any consolation im learning alot of librarian |
| 16:49 | :-P | |
| 16:49 | Sharon | hehe |
| 16:51 | rhcl | ->librarian<- something I have resisted learning quite well. I'm vaguely aware there is Mark 10 and Mark 13 and that's all I need to know. |
| 16:52 | Snow_Fox | it burns usssss |
| 16:52 | rhcl | MARBI = Multiple Array Recursive Bind Instructions ? |
| 16:53 | Snow_Fox | I am most decidedly not a programmer :-P |
| 16:54 | |Lupin| | MARBI = Multi-precision Arbitrary Records Bookmarking Information |
| 16:55 | rhcl | Yea, well, I was close |
| 16:55 | cait | isnt that MARC21 commitee also called marbi? |
| 16:55 | gmcharlt | cait: that is in fact the droid I was looking for :) |
| 16:55 | cait | yay :) |
| 16:56 | |Lupin| | rhcl: hmm that was just a joke ! Just tried to invent something funny |
| 16:56 | Sharon | I had a friend on that committee and I'm a cataloger, so we had long, interesting, truly librarian-geek discussions on cataloging standards |
| 16:57 | rhcl | You know, I did read an interesting article from some world-famous library guy where he discussed something to the effect that if you threw out Marc and all the ILSies and started from scratch with a bare database, what would you design today. |
| 17:00 | 1200 time for lunch! | |
| 17:06 | |Lupin| | 1900 time for concert ! |
| 17:08 | cait | have fun! |
| 17:11 | |Lupin| | thanks ! |
| 17:11 | bye cait, bye all ! | |
| 17:18 | paul_p | ok, time to head back home. see ya tomorrow everybody ! |
| 17:18 | pianohacker | bye |
| 17:38 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 17:38 | munin | gmcharlt: Quote #15: "<|Lupin|>ricardo: you are like the Portuguese Hitchcock!!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:58 PM, July 10, 2009) |
| 18:58 | Snow_Fox | anyone know what the reason for the accountlines table is for? |
| 18:58 | pianohacker | Snow_Fox: I did answer that question last night, but unfortunately after you left |
| 18:58 | owen | It stores information about fines and charges |
| 18:58 | pianohacker | It keeps track of fines and payments |
| 18:58 | Snow_Fox | ah ok |
| 18:59 | owen | It's the table you update manually when you can't seem to get rid of that fine on a patron's account ;) |
| 18:59 | Snow_Fox | lol |
| 18:59 | pianohacker | It is the source of neverending headaches |
| 18:59 | We could go on | |
| 19:00 | Snow_Fox | so in other words is a black hole where money goes |
| 19:00 | like congress | |
| 19:01 | owen | Maybe if someone threw some money in it would get fixed! |
| 19:01 | Snow_Fox | why is there a ethnicity table |
| 19:02 | seems a little redundant imho | |
| 19:03 | pianohacker | owen: True even if it is a bad pun |
| 19:04 | owen | ethnicity is a requirement of New Zealand systems |
| 19:04 | Snow_Fox | i suppose it makes sense in that context with different groups in different countrys need a easy way to add and remove data |
| 19:05 | without changing the hard code in the system | |
| 19:05 | roatype prob falls under that same category doesnt it | |
| 19:05 | pianohacker | Yup |
| 19:05 | Though there's talk of moving the roadtype table into authorised_values | |
| 19:06 | Snow_Fox | services_throttle? |
| 19:06 | pianohacker | Added for the XISBN service |
| 19:07 | You can only use it 500 times a day, so Koha updates a counter in that table | |
| 19:07 | Snow_Fox | i suppose i gotta ask what is XISBN |
| 19:07 | as a service | |
| 19:07 | pianohacker | It's reset by the misc/cronjobs/services_throttle.pl |
| 19:07 | cronjob | |
| 19:08 | It allows you to look up other editions of a book, based on its ISBN (it's technically xISBN, but koha miscapitalizes it in a few places) | |
| 19:08 | Run by OCLC | |
| 19:08 | Snow_Fox | ah |
| 19:08 | so where are the images for patrons technically stored | |
| 19:08 | in the database or in a file on the server somehwere | |
| 19:08 | pianohacker | In the database |
| 19:08 | I'm fairly certain | |
| 19:09 | Snow_Fox | whats the limitations on image size and girth |
| 19:09 | pianohacker | Couldn't tell you that one. I think there's a data size limit, but image dimensions are really only limited by where it goes in the interface |
| 19:09 | I think the manual could tell you | |
| 19:10 | Snow_Fox | hrm thats what i kinda figured when i played with it |
| 19:10 | according to schemaspy the firled is 16777215 | |
| 19:10 | field | |
| 19:11 | pianohacker | brb lunch |
| 19:34 | Snow_Fox | ok i gotta ask what is z3950 |
| 19:38 | language_rfc4646_to_iso639 | |
| 19:38 | totally lost on | |
| 19:40 | rhcl | Z3950 is a protocol to permit searching in other people's drawers |
| 19:40 | or something like that | |
| 19:40 | Even I know that. | |
| 19:40 | Z39.50 is a client-server protocol for searching and retrieving information from remote computer databases. It is covered by ANSI/NISO standard Z39.50, and ISO standard 23950. The standard's maintenance agency is the Library of Congress | |
| 19:41 | Snow_Fox | thats why it sounded familiar |
| 19:41 | it think its used to connect to various databases | |
| 19:41 | from the looks of the table configuration | |
| 19:42 | rhcl | yep |
| 19:47 | Snow_Fox | language_rfc4646_to_iso639 any idea what this table does? |
| 19:47 | rhcl | Is Koha Bath compliant? |
| 19:47 | Snow_Fox | besides maping characters from standard to another? |
| 20:07 | question on the types of Reports from SQL Tabular seems streight forward its just a list of items, sumary is also easy in that its a summation of items, however Matrix kinda baffles me, anyone know what this does? | |
| 20:08 | Wizzyrea_ | not sure, the french folks did the guided reports module i think |
| 20:09 | Snow_Fox | sacre bleu? |
| 20:20 | atz | Snow_Fox: just use tabular. the others don't do anything (reliably) afaik |
| 20:40 | pianohacker | Snow_Fox: I think the language_... table maps one kind of language identifier to another |
| 20:40 | Beats me why we don't just keep it in a data file, but hey | |
| 20:48 | richard | hi |
| 20:50 | chris | morning |
| 20:50 | Snow_Fox | wow delayed answer |
| 20:50 | hurts the brain >.< | |
| 20:50 | heya richard | |
| 20:51 | thanks piano for the info | |
| 20:53 | gmcharlt | hi chris |
| 20:54 | chris | heya galen |
| 20:58 | Jo | Good morning all |
| 20:58 | rhcl | Afternoon |
| 20:59 | gmcharlt | hi Jo |
| 20:59 | chris | heya Jo |
| 21:31 | mib_0drkh8 | anybody having problems with buying bibs from OCLC? |
| 21:34 | chris | apart from the fact you have to buy them? |
| 21:34 | :) | |
| 21:36 | mib_0drkh8 | haha |
| 21:36 | lol | |
| 21:36 | no...every time I buy one today, I get two | |
| 21:36 | Snow_Fox | do you guys mess with overdrive at all? |
| 21:36 | mib_0drkh8 | no |
| 21:37 | gmcharlt | Snow_Fox: there are at least a couple LL customers using it |
| 21:37 | mib_0drkh8 | and they are not showing up when the barcode is on the book (I think because it's Koha) |
| 21:37 | Snow_Fox | someone said something about there being a workstation or computer i can buy that users can use like a OPAC |
| 21:37 | mib_0drkh8 | so I don't know what is wrong, OCLC or Koha |
| 21:38 | chris | mib_0drkh8: are you using zebra? |
| 21:38 | mib_0drkh8 | no, using oclc connexion...EZ cat |
| 21:39 | chris | i mean with koha |
| 21:39 | mib_0drkh8 | Koha is our program |
| 21:39 | chris | and do you the the crontab set up to run rebuild_zebra.pl ? |
| 21:39 | mib_0drkh8 | I don't know what zebra is |
| 21:39 | chris | usually if things arent showing in searches, its becasue the indexes havent been built |
| 21:39 | mib_0drkh8 | I know nothing about that |
| 21:40 | chris | ahhh, who set up Koha for you? |
| 21:40 | mib_0drkh8 | we don't handle Koha |
| 21:40 | Incolsa | |
| 21:40 | Liblime | |
| 21:41 | Snow_Fox | Zebra btw is the search engine that Koha uses |
| 21:41 | mib_0drkh8 | ok |
| 21:41 | I guess I will have to go to Incolsa about it, then, but thankx | |
| 21:41 | chris | ahhh in that case, id expect it was running |
| 21:41 | yes might pay to ask incolsa | |
| 21:42 | sorry cant be more help | |
| 21:42 | mib_0drkh8 | thank you |
| 21:42 | np | |
| 21:42 | it helped some | |
| 21:42 | lol | |
| 21:42 | chris | :) |
| 21:42 | Snow_Fox | it all good mib |
| 21:42 | mib_0drkh8 | :-) |
| 21:42 | Snow_Fox | im a koha noobie too |
| 21:42 | and already they are trying to make me program | |
| 21:42 | RUN! | |
| 21:42 | RUN FOR YOU LIFE! | |
| 21:42 | :-P | |
| 21:42 | chris | hehe |
| 21:43 | mib_0drkh8 | I don't wanna program, I can't keep up as it is.....koha is too damn complicated, either the book shows up, or it doesn't, or it shows up twice |
| 21:43 | never consistent | |
| 21:43 | oops | |
| 21:43 | sorry for the language | |
| 21:43 | mason | meh, param rail-line dwn due to slip .. |
| 21:43 | chris | thats just mean Snow_Fox |
| 21:43 | :) | |
| 21:44 | mib_0drkh8 | don't think it would help..lol |
| 21:44 | Snow_Fox | i prefer the quick kill |
| 21:44 | :-P | |
| 21:44 | mib_0drkh8 | hehe |
| 21:49 | well, thanks guys about time to wrap it up....maybe tomorrow I'll have some hair left | |
| 21:49 | :) | |
| 21:49 | chris | :) |
| 21:49 | good luck | |
| 21:55 | rhcl | outta here |
| 21:55 | dipanjan | gmcharlt: ping |
| 21:55 | gmcharlt | dipanjan: pong |
| 21:55 | dipanjan | gmcharlt: where can I find the kohastruture.sql script? |
| 21:55 | s/kohastruture/kohastructure | |
| 21:56 | gmcharlt | dipanjan: installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql |
| 21:56 | from the root of the git clone or unpackaged tarball | |
| 21:57 | dipanjan | gmcharlt: thanks |
| 21:57 | gmcharlt: thanks | |
| 21:59 | gmcharlt: i found it under the unpacked tarball. thanks | |
| 22:00 | gmcharlt | dipanjan: you're welcome |
| 22:11 | |Lupin| | hi |
| 22:12 | pianohacker: here ? | |
| 22:12 | chris | working late |Lupin| |
| 22:13 | |Lupin| | chris: not really... jst spend a few minutes reading e-mails and saying good night |
| 22:13 | chris: how was your night ? :-) | |
| 22:14 | chris | got some sleep, so not bad ;) |
| 22:15 | |Lupin| | ok |
| 22:59 | chris | hmm is kansas internet still bustinated? |
| 22:59 | Snow_Fox | erm nopers |
| 23:00 | i did get some odd packet drops for a little bit | |
| 23:00 | but that was a few hours ago | |
| 23:00 | chris | must be just sharon |
| 23:00 | Snow_Fox | apparently it was a issue in oklahoma city |
| 23:00 | anyways off to home | |
| 23:00 | laters all | |
| 23:00 | chris | they probably are all out singing |
| 23:01 | thats all i know about oklahoma | |
| 23:35 | |Lupin| | bye all |
| 23:35 | good night / day ! | |
| 03:04 | ebegin | hey #koha! |
| 03:05 | chris | sup ebegin |
| 03:05 | ebegin | gmcharlt, I want to thank you for everything you did for koha's community |
| 03:05 | chris | he's not leaving, we wont let him :) |
| 03:05 | at least not yet, he is still RM just not working at liblime :) | |
| 03:06 | ebegin | chris: I'm in Gatineau, near ottawa to give a training for a client. Gatineau is about 2 hours from Montreal |
| 03:06 | chris | cool |
| 03:06 | ebegin | chris, true for gmcharlt |
| 03:06 | gmcharlt, around? | |
| 03:07 | chris | id imagine he is sleeping |
| 03:08 | ebegin | I guess so too |
| 03:21 | chris | ok, im off to head north to Levin for the farewell of Rosalie from HLT |
| 03:21 | pianohacker | Two farewells close together :/ |
| 03:21 | ebegin | so long |
| 03:21 | pianohacker | See ya |
| 03:22 | chris | ahh she is retiring from HLT ... which means more time for Koha :-) |
| 03:22 | pianohacker | Heh. That is a good thing. |
| 03:22 | chris | have a good weekend all |
| 03:22 | ebegin | it's not even friday over here :) |
| 03:22 | pianohacker | Thanks, you too |
| 03:23 | ebegin: Heh, yeah. Time zones are so strange | |
| 03:34 | ebegin | Where should I start to check to know why koha are not sending emails? |
| 03:34 | s/are/is/ | |
| 03:36 | ok, this is system related, not Koha related... so... | |
| 03:37 | pianohacker | It usually is. Setting up SMTP is such a pain |
| 03:37 | Good night, all | |
| 03:37 | Amit | hi chris, richards |
| 03:37 | good morning koha | |
| 03:37 | ebegin | Amit, what about me? ;) |
| 03:37 | CGI825 | http://pastebin.com/m6b2fe58b |
| 03:37 | ebegin | kidding |
| 03:37 | Amit | sory |
| 03:37 | hi ebegin | |
| 03:37 | morning | |
| 03:37 | CGI825 | i can't find any good info online |
| 03:38 | and i'm pretty sure that all the pm's are installed | |
| 03:38 | ebegin | CGI825, are you gp5st? |
| 03:39 | CGI825 | yes |
| 03:39 | ebegin | :) |
| 03:39 | CGI825 | i forgot to change my name when i started the apllet here |
| 03:39 | applet* | |
| 03:39 | ebegin | np |
| 03:40 | CGI825 | i didn't even see the server until after |
| 03:40 | ebegin | My first be would be to check you permissions. What type of install did you do? |
| 03:40 | CGI825 | maybe it's late and this is just easy, but i just can't think of what to check or do |
| 03:40 | standard install | |
| 03:40 | all the defaults, except no zoom | |
| 03:41 | maybe i should just del everything and start a new computer form scratch? | |
| 03:41 | ebegin | I guess that you already checked that the files actually exist |
| 03:42 | CGI825 | yes, i looked at it |
| 03:42 | and it's a module import, and i tried to install the module, but it said it was installed | |
| 03:45 | ebegin | when are you getting this message^ |
| 03:45 | CGI825 | when i nav to localhost:8080 |
| 03:46 | ebegin | do you get something when accesing just localhost |
| 03:47 | CGI825 | no |
| 03:47 | i don't have that set up | |
| 03:48 | i could enable it | |
| 03:48 | or just rm -rf / and start from scratch, as this whole machine is just being stubborn | |
| 03:48 | ebegin | hmmm... you should have something like Koha is under maintenance... |
| 03:48 | which OS? | |
| 03:49 | CGI825 | debian |
| 03:49 | ebegin | ok. the INSTALL.debian file is really straightforward |
| 03:49 | CGI825 | 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu |
| 03:49 | ebegin | Ubunto then, not debian. |
| 03:51 | CGI825 | true, i've considered them the same...i guess i should stop that |
| 03:53 | ebegin | If I were you, I would switch to debian (if this is possible, of course) |
| 03:54 | CGI825 | i'm just going through it again; i must have missed something; sorry it's late |
| 03:59 | http://www.docunext.com/blog/2[…]ocal-version.html solved an issue i was having with apt installing some things | |
| 04:00 | and the issue, now just to make sure the db is set up properly | |
| 04:00 | thanks:) | |
| 05:44 | |Lupin| | good morning #koha |
| 05:47 | Amit | hi lupin |
| 06:22 | |Lupin| | hey Amit |
| 06:24 | ebegin | good night all! |
| 06:39 | |Lupin| | bonjour laurence |
| 06:40 | laurence | hello |Lupin| |
| 06:49 | |Lupin| | any git user around, pls ? |
| 06:58 | hey nahuel | |
| 07:02 | greenmang0 | @wunder mumbai |
| 07:02 | munin | greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 29.0°C (12:10 PM IST on July 24, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:17 | |Lupin| | @wunder paris |
| 07:17 | munin | |Lupin|: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:17 | |Lupin| | @wunder Paris |
| 07:17 | munin | |Lupin|: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:18 | hdl_laptop | |Lupin|: ? |
| 07:29 | |Lupin| | hdl_laptop: yes ? |
| 07:29 | hdl_laptop | |Lupin|: hi, you said you wanted a git user. |
| 07:29 | |Lupin| | hdl_laptop: yep |
| 07:30 | hdl_laptop: because I had a small problem | |
| 07:30 | hdl_laptop: but I could solve it actually, thanks | |
| 07:30 | hdl_laptop: just one quick thing: do some tables in the db contain informations about countries ? | |
| 07:31 | hdl_laptop | authorized_values should containe COUNTRY |
| 07:32 | you have it in installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/1-Obligatoire/authorisedvalues. | |
| 07:32 | |Lupin| | hdl_laptop: yes but I mean |
| 07:32 | I don't see a column in the db which can contain a country name | |
| 07:32 | I was looking for that | |
| 07:33 | because I wanted to add such a lolumn to a table and wanted to see how they are declared in other tables | |
| 07:34 | hdl_laptop | oh.... |
| 07:35 | |Lupin|: in fact you can use such authorised_values in Patron_attribute | |
| 07:35 | |Lupin|: or in MARC fwk | |
| 07:37 | |Lupin| | hdl_laptop: yes... and for the moment there is no column which can contain a country per se in the database, right ? |
| 07:37 | hdl_laptop | no sir |
| 07:37 | |Lupin| | :) |
| 07:38 | what ould a nice type be for country names ? | |
| 07:38 | mediumtext ? | |
| 07:38 | hdl_laptop | text |
| 07:39 | |Lupin| | okay, thanks |
| 08:20 | hdl_laptop: I'd like to submit a patch that adds a few columns we need to the branches table. Would you agree to review it before it is submitted to koha-patches, please ? | |
| 08:34 | hdl_laptop | yes. |
| 08:36 | |Lupin| | ok, thanks a lot. Could you please tell me to which address it should be sent ? |
| 10:07 | hdl_laptop | patcheskoha.org |
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