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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:00 | chris | not what was changed, no |
| 12:00 | it (if you enable it) logs that a record was changed | |
| 12:00 | but it doesnt keep a list of what was changed | |
| 12:06 | |Lupin| | chris: okay, thanks for the information |
| 12:06 | chris: actually it starts to be late for you now, no ? | |
| 12:07 | Amit | hi davi |
| 12:08 | |Lupin| | hi Amit |
| 12:08 | chris | yep time for me to go to sleep |
| 12:09 | Amit | hi Lupin |
| 12:20 | davi | hi Amit |
| 12:41 | |Lupin| | There are HTML tags in http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]lopment:git_usage |
| 12:42 | <code>$ git push ssh:yourserver.com/~you/proj.git master</code> | |
| 13:20 | (page fixed) | |
| 13:21 | Is it mandatory to create a branch in a git repository ? | |
| 13:22 | Or is it possible to work with the files obtain right after the clone operation ? | |
| 13:24 | hdl_laptop | |Lupin|: It is really much safer to create a local branch |
| 13:27 | |Lupin| | hdl_laptop: ok, thanks |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | Ah the famous Owen returns! |
| 14:48 | owen | Still famous after such a long absence? |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | always famous to me :) |
| 14:49 | your fame is legendary, come on | |
| 14:49 | owen | :) |
| 14:53 | I've got to find time to update my blog...haven't done so since just after KohaCon | |
| 14:53 | I'm back at work after a long break, though, so everything's piled high | |
| 14:56 | wizzyrea | that qtip jquery plugin is neato |
| 14:59 | owen | Yeah, I'm definitely looking into that one for future Koha use |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | I can so see the cover art in a clicky tooltip |
| 15:00 | or brief records/availability info in a tooltip | |
| 15:01 | lots of hotness there | |
| 15:21 | |Lupin| | hi Melissa |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | oh, I have a bit of a funny koha story |
| 16:53 | so one of our staff members was posting items on the intranet, but was totally flummoxed by the fact that they weren't expiring at the right time | |
| 16:53 | is it a bug? am I doing it wrong? The humanity! | |
| 16:53 | so I thought about this | |
| 16:53 | and realized that most of the accounts that our users use to circulate | |
| 16:54 | had "edit news" capability | |
| 16:54 | someone was clicking the delete link on the news | |
| 16:54 | and satisfactorily saying to themselves "yay! that pesky news is gone!" | |
| 16:54 | i lol'd | |
| 17:07 | jdavidb | lol |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | i knorite :) |
| 17:08 | jdavidb | That'd be a fancy-pants enhancement, to make it where it work like they *think* it works... |
| 17:08 | wizzyrea | god like... a per login news display |
| 17:09 | I only want YOU and YOU and YOU and YOU to see this | |
| 17:09 | runs and hides | |
| 17:09 | jdavidb | You'd almost need to do a more general-purpose messaging system for that...post the news, and it shotguns out in copies to those users. |
| 17:09 | gmcharlt | or for now, just remove the delete button from the home page |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea | yea, or take away the perm |
| 17:09 | they don't need to edit news :{P | |
| 17:10 | :P | |
| 17:10 | jdavidb | gmcharlt, you're taking all the fun out of it... :P |
| 17:10 | wizzyrea | (which is what we did) |
| 17:11 | no fighting over news | |
| 17:11 | ^.^ | |
| 17:11 | (but I did save gmcharlt another support ticket) | |
| 18:21 | chris | @wunder wellington, new zealand |
| 18:21 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 3.0°C (6:00 AM NZST on June 24, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:21 | chris | brr |
| 18:25 | nicomo | 3°C brrrr indeed |
| 18:25 | @wunder lyon, france | |
| 18:25 | munin | nicomo: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is 20.1°C (7:59 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:28 | jdavidb | @wunder bethesda, md |
| 18:28 | munin | jdavidb: The current temperature in Burning Tree Estates, Bethesda, Maryland is 28.2°C (2:24 PM EDT on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.49 in 998.5 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence, ks |
| 18:53 | munin | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 37.2°C (1:53 PM CDT on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM CDT Thursday... |
| 18:53 | chris | ok ok i get it |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | nice! |
| 18:54 | chris | you all have better weather :P |
| 18:54 | wizzyrea | better... crap, if you like "excessive heat warnings" |
| 18:54 | yesterday I saw a 40C | |
| 18:54 | on a bank | |
| 19:27 | rhcl | I just love the metric system. 40C is equal to 178F, but it sounds soooo nice and cool. 50 pounds (British) sounds cheap for a motherboard, but it's $394 in USD. |
| 19:29 | nicomo | rhcl: I always found measures to be the most difficult things to grasp in a different culture |
| 19:30 | C° in F°, my size in feet instead of cm, weight in stones instead of kg, etc | |
| 19:30 | 40C feels hot to me, whereas 178F doesn't feel anything, neither hot nor cold | |
| 19:32 | jdavidb | 40C = 104F, not 178. 178 would be really deadly. |
| 19:32 | wizzyrea | yes, it was 104F |
| 19:32 | rhcl | Actually, I lived a number of years (12+) in Korea, and I just developed a schizo mind--I never tried to covert, I just lived in one world (west vs east) and made that my frame of reference. |
| 19:33 | wizzyrea | that makes sense, calibrate your mind to equate the number you see with what you feel |
| 19:34 | instead of trying to convert from the thing you know to the thing you don't | |
| 19:34 | rhcl | 104F is certainly potentially deadly to some people-the elderly and those without health problems with A/C. |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | rhcl: is it so nasty hot in StJo too? |
| 19:34 | it's icky here | |
| 19:35 | rhcl | Yea. Pretty bad. |
| 19:36 | Nicomo: So how is the WX in France? | |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | @wunder lyon, france |
| 19:36 | munin | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is 19.0°C (8:59 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:36 | nicomo | yep |
| 19:37 | that's spot in the middle of the country | |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | lucky :) |
| 19:37 | nicomo | paul is at |
| 19:37 | @wunder marseille, France | |
| 19:37 | chris | its 7 in my lounge |
| 19:37 | munin | nicomo: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 22.0°C (9:30 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:37 | nicomo | a bit warmer |
| 19:37 | a at the beginning of this week I was at the northern border | |
| 19:38 | @wunder lille france | |
| 19:38 | munin | nicomo: The current temperature in Lille, France is 18.0°C (9:30 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:38 | nicomo | so : 18C to 23C from north to south at 9pm |
| 19:39 | rhcl | @wunder Leucate Plage France |
| 19:39 | munin | rhcl: The current temperature in Narbonne, France is 25.4°C (8:59 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:39 | rhcl | Life's a beach! |
| 19:39 | nicomo | eh eh |
| 19:39 | especially at Leucate | |
| 19:39 | @wunder biarritz france | |
| 19:39 | munin | nicomo: The current temperature in Boucau, Boucau, France is 23.1°C (9:38 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:39 | nicomo | this one's better for surfing |
| 19:40 | rhcl | Ah |
| 19:41 | I have to go check on a computer that's updating....brb | |
| 19:57 | chris | remind me why I thought a book about a monkey that does everything he is told not to do was a good idea to read to my son |
| 19:58 | pianohacker | You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :) |
| 19:58 | wizzyrea | O.O |
| 19:58 | chris | hehe |
| 19:58 | good point | |
| 19:59 | rhcl | You should just read him some Koha source code. :) |
| 19:59 | pianohacker | I recommend reports/issues_avg_stats.pl |
| 19:59 | chris | @quote add < pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :) |
| 19:59 | munin | chris: The operation succeeded. Quote #10 added. |
| 19:59 | wizzyrea | @quote add Pianohacker (re: chris): You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :) |
| 19:59 | munin | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #11 added. |
| 19:59 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 19:59 | chris | beatya |
| 19:59 | wizzyrea | DOH |
| 20:00 | gmcharlt | @quote remove 11 |
| 20:00 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:00 | gmcharlt | @quote show 10 |
| 20:00 | munin | gmcharlt: downloading the Perl source |
| 20:01 | gmcharlt | @quote get 10 |
| 20:01 | munin | gmcharlt: Quote #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)" (added by chris at 07:59 PM, June 23, 2009) |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 20:17 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009) |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | i love it that it always randomly assigns that one when I quote random |
| 20:17 | it's like it knows what I'm thinking!! | |
| 20:17 | chris | heh |
| 20:17 | ebegin | chris, is there a wiki for all those commands? :) |
| 20:18 | chris | for munin? not that im aware of |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | we could call it "playtime in #koha" |
| 20:18 | chris | but you can do @help |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | er, sorry... quoting is serious business |
| 20:18 | ebegin | wizzyrea, that what I tought... or having fun in #koha |
| 20:18 | chris | gmcharlt might know |
| 20:19 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: not yet - basic commands are documented in supybot doc |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | kk |
| 20:20 | ebegin | @roulette |
| 20:20 | munin | ebegin: *click* |
| 20:20 | ebegin | hahaha |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | @roulette |
| 20:22 | munin | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | aww |
| 20:23 | ebegin | Doh! |
| 20:23 | @roulette | |
| 20:23 | munin | ebegin: *click* |
| 20:23 | ebegin | ouf |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | Uh uh, you are not getting me to do that again... |
| 20:24 | ebegin | :) |
| 20:24 | @roulette | |
| 20:24 | munin | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 20:24 | ebegin | doh! |
| 20:24 | is that a real random... | |
| 20:24 | @roulette | |
| 20:24 | munin | ebegin: *click* |
| 20:24 | ebegin | @roulette |
| 20:24 | munin | ebegin: *click* |
| 20:25 | ebegin | yes :) who's next :) |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | @roulette |
| 20:25 | munin | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | SEE |
| 20:28 | gmcharlt: did that come through ok? | |
| 20:28 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: your game of russian roulete? |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | no, my reports template patch, the one with the former linebreak issues? |
| 20:29 | i just sent it | |
| 20:29 | again | |
| 20:29 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: looks OK by eyeball |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | sweet |
| 20:29 | nicomo | ok guys, have a nice roulette day |
| 20:30 | time to go to bed here in Europe | |
| 20:30 | bye | |
| 20:37 | richard | hi |
| 20:39 | ebegin | What is the copyrights on the "bridge" icon in Koha? |
| 20:40 | I like them, but since there is some english mention (book, sound, tape), I can not use them in french. | |
| 20:44 | chris | check out the about page ebegin it should tell you |
| 20:45 | ebegin | oh! Thanks chris! |
| 20:49 | chris | right taking kahu out |
| 20:49 | back later | |
| 21:30 | rhcl | @seen wizzyrea |
| 21:30 | munin | rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 1 hour and 34 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> sweet |
| 21:30 | rhcl | liz: you on? |
| 21:32 | Did you see the SMUG post from Hutchinson Community College about moving from Sirsi to Civica/CMI's Spydus? | |
| 21:34 | chris | back |
| 21:34 | moving to spydus? are they on crack? | |
| 21:35 | i mean, not going OSS is one thing ... but spydus ... yeeeuuuckkk | |
| 21:35 | rhcl | Well, huh, I donno. Maybe too much Jimson weed? |
| 21:36 | I don't know anything about Spydus. | |
| 21:36 | So what do you know about it? | |
| 21:37 | chris | and iirc nelsonville was spydus too |
| 21:37 | they do um weird things with with their data | |
| 21:38 | also the librarians (at least for the 2 i did) hated it ... mind you, librarians hate every ILS so take that with a grain of salt | |
| 21:38 | they had a nasty policy of making you pay to get your own data out too | |
| 21:38 | which I find distasteful | |
| 21:39 | rhcl | Ah, well, 3-5 years from now there will be an opportunity for some lucky company to help them migrate to Koha or something else. :) |
| 21:40 | chris | bags not!! |
| 21:40 | rhcl | My tech services supervisor really really loved Inlex. |
| 21:40 | chris | (do you guys say that?) |
| 21:41 | rhcl | No, that's not familiar to me. |
| 21:41 | chris | In New Zealand and Australia the word "bags" is used to the same effect. "Bagsy" and "dibs" are used occasionally with the same meaning. When calling bags, one will not usually include the word "on" - "Bags ____ing" is used in the case of verbs, and "Bags the ____" in the case of nouns. Bags is of particular use in opting out of an undesirable task, when saying "Bags not me" before anyone else in the group will exclude one from having to do that task. |
| 21:41 | (from wikipedia) | |
| 21:42 | rhcl | ICIC |
| 21:42 | chris | so im safe :) |
| 21:46 | rhcl | For anybody that cares, we've been evaluating DSpace as a digital repository, and I'm pretty impressed with it so far. We will probably end up using it for our Project Bloodroot - a digitization of all the yearbooks from a early 1900's-1950s local cancer hospital. |
| 21:46 | chris | sweet |
| 21:46 | im oblidged to ask if you have looked at kete :-) | |
| 21:47 | even though im sure you have :)( | |
| 21:47 | i have heard good things about dspace too | |
| 21:47 | and i think sounds like it would fit that project better | |
| 21:47 | (set and forget) | |
| 21:47 | rhcl | I actually took a pretty close look at the website. I'm certainly not trying to throw rocks at anything, but you know, for all the looking I did there was nothing on the site that said "Here's what Kete does". |
| 21:48 | chris | yeah, i mentioned that to walter and Jo |
| 21:48 | the problem is, its pretty hard to define | |
| 21:48 | i like to say its like dspace + wikipedia + youtube in one thing | |
| 21:50 | rhcl | Well, my inability to grasp it is the problem I'm sure, but I just never could see what it would do, or that it was the solution I was looking for. |
| 21:50 | I think the "giant" we are up against is contentDM. | |
| 21:50 | chris | basically the difference is |
| 21:50 | kete is for community driven content | |
| 21:51 | dspace is for more of the traditional repository | |
| 21:51 | rhcl | It will be interesting to see how it (kete) develops. |
| 21:51 | chris | its in use in quite a lot of places |
| 21:55 | but yeah it is for different purpose than dspace | |
| 21:59 | http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/[…]ed-library-system | |
| 22:00 | so people can edit, discusss, see the changes, add images etc | |
| 22:01 | my fave bit of the horowhenua kete, is its adopt and anzac project | |
| 22:02 | http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/[…]33-gerald-sievers | |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea | ew, no I didn't see that |
| 22:02 | but got to go... ttyl | |
| 22:03 | chris | http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/adopt_an_anzac/ |
| 22:07 | rhcl | This is a pretty good overview: http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/about |
| 22:10 | chris | yep |
| 22:11 | rhcl | You know, I've been looking at the site. It appears to present a very good way for people to informally document "localized' (for lack of a better word) information like family histories, or a history of some local interest. |
| 22:12 | I see the potential now that I hadn't noticed previously. I may have to play around with it after Project Bloodroot. | |
| 22:13 | chris | *nod* |
| 22:13 | my work here is done | |
| 22:14 | hehehe | |
| 22:21 | rhcl | well, time to go home here. later~~ |
| 22:32 | brendan | do authority searches work with noZebra ? |
| 22:33 | gmcharlt | brendan: in principle yes, but subject to same sorts of limitations as biblio NoZebra searching |
| 22:33 | chris | im personally of the opinion |
| 22:33 | brendan | thanks gmcharlt |
| 22:33 | chris | that there is no real reason to run nozebra |
| 22:34 | brendan | *nods* :) |
| 22:34 | chris | at least for any Koha's we set up |
| 22:34 | brendan | correct! |
| 22:35 | was just a question that popped up and I wasn't sure. Actually I don't think I've used Koha without Zebra. | |
| 22:36 | gmcharlt | then feel free to forget about NoZebra entirely ;) |
| 22:36 | brendan | hey gmcharlt good to hear from you :) |
| 22:36 | chris | i can see that for ppl setting it up for their little church library, or their home library, that getting zebra up and going can be a bit hard |
| 22:37 | but i think we should work to make that as easy as possible, and deprecate nozebra | |
| 22:37 | brendan | that's what coffee is for |
| 22:37 | gmcharlt | chris: agreed, although if one isn't running a VM or from a future .deb, the crontabs will probably always be a bit stick |
| 22:37 | *sticky | |
| 22:37 | chris | true |
| 22:38 | gmcharlt | for the true Linux novice |
| 22:38 | chris | *nod* |
| 22:43 | you scared him off brendan | |
| 22:43 | brendan | hehe |
| 22:43 | chris | :-) |
| 22:43 | brendan | a talent I wish not to have ! |
| 22:43 | chris | hehe |
| 22:54 | gmcharlt_away | heh, I'm just finding dinner an attractive prospect at the moment |
| 22:54 | chris | good to see the press releases for the other libraries you are working on brendan |
| 22:55 | brendan | cool - yeah I haven't heard back from danny yet -- if he was able to access it |
| 22:55 | chris | was fine from here |
| 22:55 | brendan | he's was getting network timed out issues |
| 22:56 | gmcharlt_away | another new library F/OSS project: http://lists.webjunction.org/w[…]-June/049625.html |
| 22:56 | chris | oh kick arse |
| 22:56 | gmcharlt_away | although I'm waiting for the day when somebody gives up and names their ERMs ERMess |
| 22:56 | chris | ive been wanting a decent ERMS |
| 22:57 | galadriel chilton | |
| 22:57 | someones parents were LOTR fans :)\ | |
| 22:58 | gmcharlt_away | hmm - ERMes is an Access database |
| 23:00 | chris | darn, it looks like im still waiting for a decent ERMS |
| 23:00 | gmcharlt_away | heh |
| 23:01 | oh well, at least it's something for any library stuck with M$ | |
| 23:01 | chris | *nod* |
| 23:10 | brendan | cya #koha |
| 23:11 | chris | brendan: mets on espn |
| 23:11 | (you probably know that) | |
| 23:13 | Snow_Fox | out of curisoity on the liblime demo is there a example of overdue notices? |
| 23:16 | chris | pass |
| 00:01 | pianohacker | 'night, #koha |
| 03:10 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 03:10 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.4°C (8:07 PM PDT on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Rising). |
| 03:27 | Amit | hi brendan, chris |
| 03:28 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:28 | chris | hi amit |
| 03:28 | brendan | hey amit - good evening |
| 03:28 | Amit | hi mason, richard |
| 03:28 | heya brendan good morning | |
| 03:28 | richard | hey amit |
| 03:28 | brendan | @wunder new delhi india |
| 03:28 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 36.0°C (8:30 AM IST on June 24, 2009). Conditions: Unknown. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:29 | brendan | wow going to be hot there today |
| 03:31 | Amit | hi munin |
| 03:32 | munin: New Delhi is hot | |
| 03:32 | munin | Amit: I suck |
| 03:32 | chris | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]n-office-building |
| 03:32 | did you see that richard? | |
| 03:33 | richard | crikey |
| 03:33 | i'm guessing si will be hotfooting it to there from the library about now | |
| 03:34 | chris | reckon so |
| 03:34 | mason | howdy folks |
| 03:34 | richard | might even have young ben in tow |
| 03:34 | hi mason | |
| 03:34 | mason | hot in the city |
| 03:35 | Amit | heya mason |
| 03:36 | namaste mason | |
| 03:38 | chris | http://cola.tuxfamily.org/screenshots.php |
| 03:40 | @later tell gmcharlt check this out http://cola.tuxfamily.org/screenshots.php | |
| 03:40 | munin | chris: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:45 | hdl_laptop | hi chris |
| 03:45 | chris | yikes, you are awake early hdl_laptop |
| 03:46 | hdl_laptop | remember i have a baby too ;) |
| 03:46 | chris | ah of course :) |
| 03:53 | Amit | hi hdl |
| 03:53 | chris: how is ur baby | |
| 03:54 | chris | good, doing what babies do, sleeping and eating :) |
| 03:58 | richard | chris: loud explosion, smoke but no damage. blame is on a lightbulb |
| 03:58 | hdl_laptop | hi all |
| 03:58 | chris | ahh thats all good then richard |
| 04:01 | hdl_laptop | chris: thx btw about translations |
| 04:09 | chris | no problem, thanks for spotting it |
| 04:16 | thd | hdl_laptop: are you fully awake? |
| 04:16 | hdl_laptop | I donot think so. |
| 04:17 | thd | hdl_laptop: have you not slept yet? or are babies waking you? |
| 04:17 | hdl_laptop | baby waking me up too early ;) |
| 04:18 | thd | hdl_laptop: sing your baby back to sleep :) |
| 04:19 | hdl_laptop | he already is back to sleep. |
| 04:19 | thd | hdl_laptop: sing yourself back to sleep :) |
| 04:34 | Amit | hi thd |
| 04:34 | thd | hello Amit |
| 04:35 | Amit | thd: thd means |
| 04:36 | k | |
| 04:38 | thd | Amit: do you have any public Z39.50 servers in India now? |
| 04:38 | Amit | right no but very soon delhi public library launches own z39.50 server |
| 04:38 | may be aug end | |
| 04:39 | thd | Amit: are any others forthcoming? |
| 04:40 | Amit | in my knowledge i think no |
| 04:41 | thd; R u form | |
| 04:42 | thd | Amit: Did you mean to ask where I am from? |
| 04:42 | Amit | yes |
| 04:43 | thd | I live in New York City |
| 04:43 | Amit | k |
| 04:55 | thd | Amit: What classification systems are in use at the Dehli Public Library? |
| 04:58 | Amit | thd: they are using DDC |
| 04:59 | thd | Amit: What subject heading thesauri are in use? |
| 05:13 | Amit: Does the Dehli Public Library have authority records? | |
| 05:14 | Amit | they have authority for testing only |
| 05:15 | thd | Are they testing subject authority records? |
| 05:44 | brendan | @seen nahuel |
| 05:44 | munin | brendan: nahuel was last seen in #koha 6 days, 16 hours, 50 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <nahuel> complicated |
| 06:00 | Amit | thd: http://59.176.17.111/cgi-bin/k[…]thorities-home.pl |
| 06:00 | search by amit | |
| 07:08 | chris | good morning europe |
| 07:08 | nicomo | evening chris |
| 07:12 | Amit | hi nicomo |
| 07:14 | nicomo | Hi Amit |
| 07:24 | thd | good morning nicomo and nahuel |
| 07:24 | nahuel | hi thd |
| 07:39 | Amit | *Amit is known as osslabs |
| 07:53 | |Lupin| | hello ! |
| 07:53 | chris | hi |Lupin| |
| 07:54 | |Lupin| | Just tried to run Koha with a dev-style install (i.e. from sources) |
| 07:54 | and get the follwing error: | |
| 07:54 | Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /home/seb/src/koha/C4/Auth.pm line 327. | |
| 07:54 | Can anyone help with that, please ? | |
| 07:55 | hi chris | |
| 07:55 | chris | never seen that before |
| 07:56 | |Lupin| | uhuh... |
| 07:56 | any idea how I can investigate ? | |
| 07:57 | I had a look to the mentionned line but it was not inspiring for me... | |
| 08:00 | chris | running from master? |
| 08:00 | or the 3.0.x branch? | |
| 08:00 | |Lupin| | master |
| 08:02 | and git pull says already uptodate | |
| 08:03 | chris | there are no other errors before that? |
| 08:03 | about being able to connect to the db or anything? | |
| 08:04 | |Lupin| | not on the page itself |
| 08:04 | I can have a look to apache's log perhaps | |
| 08:05 | chris | good idea |
| 08:08 | |Lupin| | opac-main.pl: OPAC: Database update needed, redirecting to maintenance. Database is 3.0001005 and Koha is 3.01000B37 at /home/seb/src/koha/C4/Auth.pm line ... |
| 08:08 | ahah ! | |
| 08:09 | actually I had a standard install on my system before | |
| 08:09 | and since I wanted to start hacking in Koha I installed it in dev mode | |
| 08:09 | I thought I could use the same database. | |
| 08:10 | chris | yep you will need to go to the librarian interface |
| 08:10 | and hopefully it will let you upgrade | |
| 08:11 | |Lupin| | let's try, thanks !! |
| 08:12 | it runs the web installer... | |
| 08:12 | is this what has to be done, or will it erase the database completely ? | |
| 08:12 | chris | nope thats what has to be done |
| 08:13 | you can of course do a mysqldump before just in case | |
| 08:13 | |Lupin| | oh well |
| 08:13 | chris | but it will jump to the last step, and apply upgrades to get it to the required level |
| 08:13 | |Lupin| | there are not somany datas in the db... |
| 08:16 | ah I thought koha would let me log in with the super librarian account I have created for myself, but it does not. Is that intended ? | |
| 08:16 | chris | no |
| 08:16 | sorry yes | |
| 08:17 | on the user specified in the koha-conf.xml | |
| 08:17 | can run the upgrades | |
| 08:18 | so not any user you made in koha | |
| 08:18 | |Lupin| | okay, I undestand, thanks |
| 08:18 | yep | |
| 08:19 | [Wed Jun 24 10:17:40 2009] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate entry 'AllowRenewalLimitOverride' for key 1 at /home/seb/src/koha/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 2035. | |
| 08:19 | chris | that may be safe to ignore |
| 08:20 | |Lupin| | [Wed Jun 24 10:17:40 2009] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`braillenet_koha/message_transports`, CONSTRAINT `message_transports_ibfk_2` FOREIGN KEY (`message_transport_type`) REFERENCES `message_transport_types` (`message_transport_type`) ON DELETE CA) at /home/seb/src/koha/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 2054. |
| 08:20 | hmm actually... | |
| 08:21 | http://pastebin.com/f47c0c1e8 | |
| 08:22 | chris: could you please have a look to it and se whether all the messages are benine ? | |
| 08:22 | si | hmm |
| 08:22 | oops | |
| 08:23 | chris | |Lupin|: maybe |
| 08:23 | :) | |
| 08:23 | |Lupin| | okay |
| 08:23 | I continued and things seem to work | |
| 08:23 | chris | cant say for sure, if it lets you login now, thats a good start |
| 08:23 | |Lupin| | the only thing is tha Koha now is in english |
| 08:23 | so maybe other parameters have been lost... | |
| 08:27 | it's weird, on the global system preferences, for instance, some things are in french, others in english | |
| 08:27 | e.g. the description of the preferences are in french, but the buttons in english | |
| 08:31 | and if I try to set the language pref in the area, english is my only option, just as if the other languages were not available... | |
| 08:36 | chris | yes because the templates wont exist |
| 08:36 | since you did a new install | |
| 08:36 | dev install doesnt create the templates | |
| 08:36 | you need to go misc/translation | |
| 08:36 | and run install-code.pl fr-FR | |
| 08:36 | if you want french for example | |
| 08:38 | |Lupin| | ahah ! tnaks ! |
| 08:38 | Perhaps There is already a documentation where this is explained ? (which would avoid me to bug everybody...) | |
| 08:39 | chris | might be on the wiki |
| 08:39 | generally the dev install is for dev tho, so it kinda makes assumptions you know what you are doing (often the assumptions are wrong) so it might not be documented | |
| 08:40 | if you cant find it on the wiki | |
| 08:40 | it would be great if you add it :) | |
| 08:41 | |Lupin| | sure |
| 08:41 | actually I'm supposed to be a developer, or more precisely to become a koha developer somehow | |
| 08:42 | it's just that the beginnings are hard | |
| 08:42 | chris | *nod* |
| 08:42 | |Lupin| | chris: any idea where this could fit ? |
| 08:43 | chris | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development |
| 08:44 | maybe "Things to know when doing a dev install" | |
| 08:44 | 1/ Only the english templates are created .... | |
| 08:45 | |Lupin| | yes |
| 08:45 | also | |
| 08:46 | now french appears in the possible values for language | |
| 08:46 | but it is not used as the default language | |
| 08:46 | I think I am looking at the wrong preference actually... | |
| 08:48 | hmm still the opaclanguages variable has value Français(fr-FR) [X] | |
| 08:58 | osslabs | hi Lupin |
| 08:59 | |Lupin| | hi osslabs |
| 08:59 | osslabs | Lupin i m Amit |
| 08:59 | |Lupin| | ah |
| 09:00 | I was just about to ask | |
| 09:00 | osslabs | hmm |
| 09:16 | |Lupin| | chris: okay, page pudated. |
| 09:21 | chris | awesome |
| 09:22 | |Lupin| | thx |
| 09:23 | yet the language problem is not fixed on my install :) | |
| 09:43 | Is there a way to see which templates koha tries to load, just to figure out why the french ones aren't loaded ? | |
| 09:43 | (btw I don't even know where these templates are supposed to reside...) | |
| 09:45 | hdl_laptop | |Lupin|: koha-tmpl directory |
| 09:45 | or htdocs if it is not a dev install | |
| 09:45 | |Lupin|: you can look at get_user_and_template | |
| 09:46 | |Lupin| | hdl_laptop: okay, thanks |
| 09:47 | hdl_laptop: opac-tmpl/prog/fr-FR is there | |
| 09:47 | and the language and opaclanguage system preferences are correct in the database | |
| 11:30 | osslabs | hi jawgner |
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