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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:40 | IrmaCalyx | hi #koha |
| 12:45 | paul_p | hello IrmaCalyx |
| 12:53 | IrmaCalyx | Hi Paul. How are you settling back in after the KohaCon week? |
| 12:54 | Busy? | |
| 12:55 | I had a question today about "floating collections". Do your libraries require/use this feature? | |
| 13:01 | paul_p | IrmaCalyx: the kohaCon is quite old already. I was last week in Montauban. |
| 13:01 | what is floating collections ? | |
| 13:02 | IrmaCalyx | It's when an item does not belong to a particular branch in a multiple branch library syste. The item is borrowed from on e library and when returned to another one stays at that branch. |
| 13:03 | until borrowed again or requested from another branch. | |
| 13:04 | It's a way of saving transfer costs. | |
| 13:04 | What is it called in French? | |
| 13:07 | Montauban...dans le departement de Tarn et Garonne - A public library? | |
| 13:10 | paul_p | IrmaCalyx: yep, it's the public library. |
| 13:11 | IrmaCalyx: I never encountered this in france. | |
| 13:11 | IrmaCalyx | Just looked up some painting from Jean Ingres born in Montauban (1755-1814)... |
| 13:12 | paul_p | yep. |
| 13:12 | the library is just near the Ingres museum | |
| 13:12 | IrmaCalyx | It's a new Collections Management idea here too but it is becoming popular as only transfer expenses are incurred for items requested by library patrons. |
| 13:14 | One year already since our trip to your continent! Nice hospitality is easy to remember :-) | |
| 13:15 | paul_p | makes sense though. I think "real networks" could be interested by that. But I think it's quite a library 3.0 feature ;-) |
| 13:15 | gmcharlt | fair number of US public libraries do floating collections, or want to |
| 13:17 | IrmaCalyx | A library of significance in Sydney is requesting it. Any US library using Koha has added this feature? |
| 13:18 | gmcharlt | at least one is doing it, more or less, with the branch transfer limits that Kyle hall added |
| 13:20 | IrmaCalyx | Great...Will do some searching on prior postings or emails and check it out! |
| 13:20 | May I ask about acquisition? | |
| 13:23 | Might be easier if I ask for a link to some info re the recently designed Acquisition Module and it's features | |
| 13:24 | Will it support Electronic ordering and invoicing? | |
| 13:25 | gmcharlt | IrmaCalyx: not to answer for paul_p, but have you read through all of the acq RFCs on http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]velopment:rfcs3.2 |
| 13:25 | IrmaCalyx | Hi Galen - How are you doing? |
| 13:25 | paul_p | IrmaCalyx: nope, it won't support EDI yet. |
| 13:26 | slef told us he has something about that | |
| 13:26 | gmcharlt | IrmaCalyx: reasonably OK, but ill today |
| 13:26 | IrmaCalyx | Ok thank you both for the info. |
| 13:27 | Galen...a common flu only ...I hope! | |
| 13:27 | gmcharlt | I'm not oinking yet ;) |
| 13:27 | IrmaCalyx | That's a relief! |
| 13:35 | jwagner | Good morning all. Has anyone done any work with allowing an automated login? That is, feeding an ID and password to the OPAC under the hood? I'm looking into ways to do this. |
| 13:36 | IrmaCalyx | Galen... Hope U feel better soon. Paul...thanks for the chat and info. Bonsoir. |
| 15:07 | atz | bignose-work: i thought of a quick hack-around for loading users w/ staff (or any other) access |
| 15:09 | basically set userflags.defaulton=1 for the permissions you want to be applied, then do the load for those users, then set userflags back the way it was | |
| 15:10 | might even be able to short cirtuit that and not touch DB | |
| 15:15 | jwagner: you might look at certificate authentication at the Apache level, would need to add hooks in C4::Auth to pull values from that | |
| 15:32 | jwagner | Sorry, atz, been off in a meeting. We'll look at that. Thanks! |
| 15:33 | atz | that's the kind of thing the defense contractor types in your area get into, also |
| 15:35 | jwagner | Actually, the particular need I'm looking at is the web-based self-check. We have one site that wants it available from multiple PCs without the need for a manual login. I'm experimenting with some sysprefs to store the self-check ID & password, then pull those values & do a login for the web self-check. |
| 15:35 | atz | certificates would a good fix for that |
| 15:36 | jwagner | Worth investigating that option. Thanks. |
| 16:05 | pianohacker | Mornin', liz |
| 16:36 | wizzyrea | mornin |
| 17:22 | brendan | morning #koha |
| 18:39 | schuster | Question about show processlist in mysql |
| 18:39 | I've been running this throughout the day and things have been clicking right along. | |
| 18:39 | all of a sudden here about 1:30 - I see a BUNCH of | 4413243 | pisdadmin | localhost | koha_pisd | Query | 0 | closing tables | REPLACE INTO sessions (id, a_session) VALUES('0fc609e3ca18358e97f299d880e827b7', '--- \n_SESSION_ATI | | |
| 18:39 | REPLACE INTO sessions statements... what is that? | |
| 18:44 | chris | looks like someone logging in or out is my guess |
| 18:45 | one hell of a thunderstorm going on here, so i may disappear at any time | |
| 18:46 | schuster | Had our rain on Saturday! Rained out the Rough Riders... Thanks for the hint... Now I have something else to look into. |
| 19:02 | At the same time I start getting these statements - SELECT a_session FROM sessions WHERE id='00bcd3c19290e05fdb5ecf81caed5da8' | | |
| 19:02 | So is that someone left a workstation say for lunch came back and the system is re-connecting to the session? | |
| 19:03 | I have my timeout set to the default... - but about 1:30 we have a slowdown - when a bunch of people probably start circulating again after lunch | |
| 20:24 | chris | that sounds entirely plausible schuster |
| 20:31 | richard | morning |
| 20:38 | chris | hey richard .. wet enough for ya? |
| 20:38 | richard | sure is. spectacular lightning this a.m. |
| 20:38 | chris | yep |
| 20:40 | loud thunder too | |
| 20:46 | kahu managed to sleep through the whole thing, which was fairly impressive | |
| 20:47 | richard | amazing |
| 21:05 | hdl_laptop | have a nice evening under the thunder. |
| 21:05 | I have a 3.0.x wip to show. | |
| 21:06 | Only with cherrypicked elements | |
| 21:06 | + some sent patches from nahuel | |
| 21:06 | if anyone interested. | |
| 21:07 | It is only wip since there are some updatedatabase which fixes bugs and they are not yet added. | |
| 21:07 | But it should be there soon. | |
| 21:07 | hi saorge | |
| 21:07 | time to go to bed for me. | |
| 21:07 | see ya | |
| 21:09 | chris | cool |
| 21:09 | night hdl_laptop | |
| 21:09 | schuster | Time for me to head out... Progress!!! Now where are my keys... |
| 21:38 | chris | seems to be a yearly thing nowadays |
| 21:39 | brendan | when I left to run it was a small little fire, now two hours later - it looks like an acre or more |
| 21:39 | chris | yikes |
| 21:39 | brendan | it's really windy here today |
| 21:39 | chris | that wont help at all, no chance of rain? |
| 21:40 | brendan | no rain in sight... maybe a marine layer tonight |
| 21:43 | http://www.ksby.com/Global/story.asp?S=10308295 | |
| 21:43 | started at 1:30pm -- it's now 2:40pm that is spreading fast | |
| 21:45 | chris | yikes |
| 21:45 | how far from your home is it? | |
| 21:46 | brendan | I'm about 10 miles |
| 21:46 | I can watch it out my kitchen window though. | |
| 21:47 | chris | thats a little close for comfort |
| 21:48 | brendan | well if I'm not here for a few days... I've left town :( |
| 21:49 | chris | here's hoping they get it under control |
| 21:50 | ron | hopefully you don't get anything like we had here in .au a few months back |
| 21:50 | brendan | ok -- heading back out to watch it for a minute --- they've got helicopters dumping water on it... |
| 21:51 | ron | cool |
| 21:53 | "burning near power lines". brendan goes offline in 5... 4... 3... | |
| 21:53 | ;-) | |
| 21:54 | brendan | heh |
| 21:56 | ron | I live ~20ks (~12-15mi) from the fires that swept through Vic in .au |
| 21:57 | we got a huge amount of wildlife relocate to here soon afterwards | |
| 21:58 | chris | i bet |
| 21:58 | any wombats? | |
| 21:58 | ron | heh. nope |
| 21:58 | chris | they are my favourite australian animal |
| 21:58 | ron | bricks on legs |
| 21:58 | bleh | |
| 21:59 | lots of birds (lorikeets, etc) | |
| 22:01 | gotta catch a train. ciao | |
| 23:30 | chris | hi rach and ccatalfo |
| 23:30 | ccatalfo | evening, #koha! |
| 23:30 | chris | hows librarything treating ya? |
| 23:30 | rach | howdy |
| 23:31 | ccatalfo | chris: good, thanks. what are you up to these days? |
| 23:32 | chris | doing some koha work again, for catalyst ... bout halftime at the moment and the rest of my time is other development work for catalyst mostly on www.stuff.co.nz |
| 23:33 | ccatalfo | cool |
| 23:34 | chris | currently working on upgrading HLT to 3.0.1 |
| 23:45 | mason | hi chris.c x 2 |
| 23:46 | chris | heh |
| 23:47 | mason | any excuse for a lame pun.. :/ |
| 01:24 | brendan | the fire is reportedly getting bigger than 150 acres (that was reported an hour ago) |
| 01:57 | chris | yikes |
| 03:05 | brendan | got friends who have been evacuated from there houses over for a few days... at least they brought there dog (fun for me ) |
| 03:14 | Amit | hi brendan, mason, chris |
| 03:14 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:18 | brendan | heya amit |
| 03:20 | Amit | how r u brendan |
| 04:35 | mason | morning all |
| 04:35 | richard | evening mason |
| 04:35 | mason | crazy thunder last nite huh |
| 04:36 | richard | sure was |
| 04:36 | mason | ive *never* heard thunder that felt so close by |
| 04:36 | i initiallly thought it was an explosion ?!? | |
| 04:37 | 3am-ish i think.. | |
| 04:37 | richard | i'm sure wainuiomata copped a direct hit |
| 04:38 | mason | oooh, http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]il-hit-Wellington |
| 04:41 | Amit | hi mason richard |
| 04:41 | richard | hi amit |
| 04:41 | mason | heya amit |
| 04:41 | Amit | Weather warning as thunder, hail hit Wellington |
| 04:52 | brendan | The mountains are on fire where I live -- here's a local newspaper --- http://www.dailynexus.com/article.php?a=18913 |
| 04:54 | richard | we could do with a weather swap - it's cold and wet here |
| 04:54 | brendan | richard that would be excellent |
| 05:04 | richard | cya |
| 06:48 | Hopposai | kia ora |
| 06:48 | hello | |
| 08:15 | chris | drive by |
| 08:19 | hi paul | |
| 08:25 | hdl_laptop1 | hi chris |
| 08:30 | chris | hi hdl_laptop1 |
| 08:50 | slef | hi all. I'm alive. |
| 08:55 | chris | heya slef |
| 08:57 | 10 hours until the meeting :) | |
| 09:02 | slef | oh. I was 12 hours and got daylight savings time wrong. |
| 09:25 | mason | interesting read... -> http://nymag.com/news/business/55687/ |
| 10:01 | gmcharlt | greetings |
| 10:05 | chris | awake early gmcharlt |
| 10:05 | gmcharlt | yep |
| 10:06 | you planning to sleep between now and the meeting, I hope? | |
| 10:06 | chris | yep :) |
| 10:07 | heh | |
| 10:18 | i was actually thinking prolog | |
| 10:19 | you could really simplify the circulation matrix :) | |
| 10:20 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 10:31 | nahuel | chris, hey ! A friend of mine is the child of one of the 2 creators of prolog |
| 10:31 | (from marseille !) | |
| 10:32 | chris | very cool, it was one of my more fun classes at university |
| 10:32 | nahuel | hehe well never wrote a line of prolog |
| 10:32 | anyway it's lunchtime | |
| 10:32 | bbl | |
| 10:40 | Amit | hi nahuel |
| 10:54 | slef | http://www.songworm.com/db/son[…]EternalFlame.html |
| 11:00 | erm, when did wiki.koha.org become non-commercial? That's a PITA | |
| 11:02 | slef: seems like 2006 with the move to dokuwiki | |
| 11:33 | gmcharlt | slef: I'd support changing it to CC-BY-SA or CC-BY |
| 11:35 | I haven't checked the archives yet, but was BY-NC-SA perhaps just a dokuwiki default setting? or was there an explicit discussion about the license? | |
| 11:35 | paul_p | hi gmcharlt. afaik, no discussion about the license |
| 11:37 | gmcharlt | if we change it, would it be like relicensing software in that we'd have to get everybody who ever contributed to the wiki to change it? |
| 11:37 | that is, to agree to the new license? | |
| 11:37 | paul_p | gmcharlt: I think so |
| 11:39 | gmcharlt | one model for doing this: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update |
| 11:46 | slef | I think we could only clear the last three years (= dokuwiki registered users) because before that it was implicitly free-for-all |
| 11:48 | I assume you can get dokuwiki to spit out a list of users and emails but I can't see how to do it. | |
| 11:48 | gmcharlt | slef: yes |
| 11:48 | all registered users or only those who actually made edits? | |
| 11:49 | there are two overlapping constituencies | |
| 11:50 | slef | only those who actually made edits I guess |
| 11:50 | and non-Minor at that | |
| 11:50 | gmcharlt | I'll see if I can get it to spit out the number of lines or bytes changed by each user |
| 11:51 | slef | gmcharlt: while you're here, two questions: what's wiki.koha.org's equivalent of wikipedia's {{citation_needed}}? and how do I tag a bug on bugs.koha.org as haspatch? |
| 11:52 | gmcharlt | haspatch = priority is PATCH-Sent |
| 11:52 | slef | aha |
| 11:52 | gmcharlt | don't think wiki.koha.org has equiv of {{citation_needed}} |
| 11:53 | slef | ok, thought it was just me being dense |
| 11:54 | I may make a CitationNeeded page one day | |
| 11:54 | gmcharlt | out of curiosity, what have you found that needs it? |
| 11:54 | slef | I updated the agenda wiki page for tonight. http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]etingnotes09apr07 |
| 11:55 | gmcharlt: nothing yet, but sometimes links are missing like on that agenda | |
| 11:55 | "summary of proposals" is an example | |
| 11:59 | OK if I send a meeting reminder? | |
| 11:59 | (there hasn't been one recently has there?) |
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