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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:33 | owen | Hi #koha |
| 12:33 | gmcharlt | hi owen, #koha |
| 12:36 | paul_p | good morning USA ! |
| 12:37 | gmcharlt | Bon apr?s-midi |
| 12:38 | paul_p | thanks gmcharlt ;-) |
| 12:38 | après-midi to spell it correctly (I see a ? instead of the è) | |
| 12:39 | window open, birds singing. spring weather in Marseille ;-) | |
| 12:39 | jwagner | It's still spring for one more day in the Washington DC area, but winter is supposed to return tomorrow :-( |
| 12:52 | gmcharlt | paul_p: heh - accent looks OK in my IRC client, must not have been transmitted |
| 12:52 | jwagner: I checked, and your 007 patch didn't apply against 3.1/HEAD - you may need to rebase and resubmit | |
| 12:53 | have you had an luck getting outgoing email opened up? | |
| 12:53 | jwagner | gmcharlt, does something need to be modified in the patch? I'll have to check to see if that machine's email is open yet, but I can copy the patch to another system & email it from there, at least. |
| 12:54 | gmcharlt | jwagner: just make sure your patch is against a branch off of head, not 3.0.x (you may need to cherry-pick it into your head branch if you originally did it for 3.0.x) |
| 12:54 | then do | |
| 12:54 | git fetch | |
| 12:54 | git rebase origin | |
| 12:54 | git format-patch origin | |
| 12:54 | finally git send-email or email patch as attachment again | |
| 12:55 | jwagner | OK, I'll try to get that done later today. Thanks. |
| 13:02 | soul9 | origin? |
| 13:03 | hmm, isn't it origin/master? or is that used by default for <branchname>, | |
| 13:03 | ? | |
| 13:03 | gmcharlt | origin == origin/master |
| 13:04 | soul9 | ok |
| 14:39 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: about? |
| 14:41 | hdl_laptop | yes |
| 14:41 | gmcharlt | have you had a look at the patch I sent you to remove the bulk editing code |
| 14:42 | if you've no objections, I'll push it soon | |
| 14:43 | hdl_laptop | I have read. |
| 14:43 | I have no objections. | |
| 14:43 | gmcharlt | thanks |
| 14:46 | danny | morning #koha |
| 14:46 | gmcharlt | hi danny |
| 16:06 | pianohacker | Hello |
| 16:07 | hdl_laptop | hello pianohacker |
| 16:08 | pianohacker | hey henri |
| 16:08 | How are you? | |
| 16:16 | brendan | good morning #koha |
| 16:17 | well at least it's still morning here! | |
| 16:24 | owen | Where's here brendan? |
| 16:25 | brendan | santa barbara california -- |
| 16:25 | socal | |
| 16:25 | southern california... so I can't ever complain about the weather. | |
| 16:25 | owen | Whereas here in Ohio we can almost always complain about the weather |
| 16:26 | brendan | yeah -- I went to college in richmond indiana - so I've got an idea about the weather. |
| 16:27 | owen - you in athens? | |
| 16:27 | I went to a few halloween parties there. good times. | |
| 16:27 | owen | I'm nearby there. I work in Nelsonville, about 15 min. away |
| 16:28 | paul_p | bye world, time to leave for us frenchies (7PM quickly coming) |
| 16:28 | brendan | bye paul_p |
| 16:54 | schuster | Question about Z39.50 setup - what "port" does LibLime run our locally hosted implementations on? - for send/receive? |
| 16:58 | pianohacker | schuster: Most likely 210 or 9999 |
| 17:00 | schuster | Thanks I'll try that. I was at a presentation by Terry Reese - MarcEdit - and he talked about using it directly with Koha so was playing with it. |
| 17:05 | pianohacker | Oh I see |
| 17:09 | schuster | Is there a way from the server that I can tell how it was configured? |
| 17:20 | hdl_laptop | yes |
| 17:20 | you can see koha-conf.xml | |
| 17:21 | pianohacker | You might have to have LibLime set up a user that can write records through Z39.50, not sure Zebra comes with that by default |
| 17:21 | schuster | OK yes I found that. Thank you both for the information... |
| 17:43 | I was able to make it work with MarcEdit - just needed some login/password information... Kinda scary. | |
| 17:52 | jwagner | schuster, can you give details on how you got MarcEdit to work thru z39.50? That could be useful (and may need to be secured). Thanks. |
| 17:57 | schuster | I got the database information from the koha-conf.xml - file - server, database, user/password and port. |
| 17:58 | I have been able to search the database - but not send records back to the server... Theoretically that can be done as well. | |
| 17:59 | jwagner | For port, was it the 9999 one? |
| 17:59 | schuster | The database/password information is not something I setup, but LibLime had setup for the biblios database within the mysql database. |
| 17:59 | one of the 999's but for security reasons I hesitate to tell you ;) | |
| 18:00 | jwagner | Probably wise. That's enough to let me track it down. I think it's locked down on my server (which is A Good Thing) but I wanted to check. Thanks! |
| 19:33 | owen | Has anyone here used the "Anonymize check-out history" feature in production? |
| 19:49 | schuster | Nope - let me know how that works for you! |
| 19:53 | owen | :) I'm a little scared to try it |
| 19:54 | Crusoe | hello! |
| 19:55 | schuster | Owen - at one point in time when I asked during training they said don't use it...;( |
| 19:55 | owen | Hmmm... good to know. |
| 19:55 | Hi Crusoe | |
| 19:56 | Crusoe | Is there a way to have a local copy of koha-manual? |
| 19:57 | in html, pdfs are not linked to both toc and each other | |
| 19:57 | schuster | Crusoe - not that I know of yet. I know they are working on moving it to Plone. |
| 20:08 | danny | anyone still around that wants to talk amazon cover art? |
| 20:37 | chris | morning |
| 20:37 | danny | hi chris |
| 20:39 | chris | no takers for your cover art huh? |
| 20:39 | danny | hehe I'll send an email to devel list |
| 20:39 | chris | good plan |
| 20:40 | danny | just trying to brainstorm the best way to do it, or if it is even worth doing at all |
| 20:40 | chris | doing what? |
| 20:44 | getting cover images from amazon, or extending the amazon support in koha? | |
| 20:44 | cos if its the first, you can already do that :) | |
| 20:47 | danny | i'd like to see more cover art pulled from amazon for titles that have don't have an isbn and the only way to do this is to do a lookup using the Amazon Web Services xml |
| 20:48 | chris | ahh right |
| 20:48 | bit of a performance kill | |
| 20:48 | danny | so i was thinking about 2 solutions to this, the first is that every time an image is pulled from amazon we'd have to do an xml lookup and that would ... yes exactly |
| 20:48 | that is like 20 requests on the search result page | |
| 20:49 | chris | *nod* |
| 20:49 | danny | and even several on the details page because of the browse shelf and editions tab |
| 20:50 | chris | yep |
| 20:50 | danny | the other was to include the ASIN in the database and when records are imported or created the asin could be looked up and would only ever be done once |
| 20:51 | chris | you could retrofit too |
| 20:51 | if no asin, try finding it | |
| 20:51 | danny | right |
| 20:51 | chris | maybe just one the staff side |
| 20:51 | on even | |
| 20:52 | so that each time a librarian looks at an item, if it doesnt have an asin its added then | |
| 20:52 | so no slowing down the opac | |
| 20:56 | danny | thats true or could include a tool for the staff to just populate all asins at once, that would help the existing koha installations |
| 20:56 | chris | yep |
| 20:58 | danny | do you think it is worth it to go through all that trouble just to overcome the shortfalls of pulling images from Amazon |
| 20:59 | or just accept that their current system doesn't make this easy | |
| 20:59 | chris | i think amazon still has the largest amount of freely available cover art |
| 20:59 | danny | right |
| 20:59 | chris | so it might be worth it, just because of that, until google passes it that is :) |
| 21:01 | danny | ya, I guess it kinda just feels like doing a hack, instead of doing it right |
| 21:01 | although it can always be updated or removed in the future | |
| 21:02 | chris | yep |
| 21:02 | hacks are fine, as long as they are documented as such :) | |
| 21:03 | atz | I don't think you can rely on 100% correct ASIN grabbing |
| 21:03 | probably 95+%, but not 100% | |
| 21:04 | danny | atz, do you mean that some titles would have the wrong cover art? |
| 21:04 | chris | doing as part of a human process, so you get shown the cover image when cataloguing |
| 21:04 | atz | yes |
| 21:04 | chris | would be a way around that, letting the librarian go .. no thats wrong |
| 21:05 | atz | yeah, that would be best |
| 21:05 | chris | whats the legality of taking photos of items? |
| 21:06 | probably copyright infringement, with the sentence of death or something ridiculous | |
| 21:06 | atz | chris: you mean to display in the opac? or submit to Amazon "customer photos" ? |
| 21:06 | chris | display in the opac |
| 21:07 | im thinking you have one in your hand, you cant find a match via isbn or asin .. can you take a photo yourself and serve that instead (techinically its easy .. but i bet not legally) | |
| 21:10 | atz | chris: i don't see any legal problem with that |
| 21:10 | it's a representation of the item, same as if you were posting it on ebay | |
| 21:11 | chris | yep, common sense .. i fear the lawyers would spaz about it tho, if it make sense it's probably illegal is my rule of thumb when it comes to copyright :) |
| 21:11 | elwell | imho it's also a useful record of the item condition... |
| 21:13 | danny | atz, jumping back to your comment about not relying on ASIN, wouldn't it be easier to automate grabbing the ASIN and then just have a way for the librarian to remove one if incorrect, otherwise when the patch would be applied to existing installations they would have a lot of blank cover art from amazon until they visited each item |
| 21:14 | atz | danny: i prefer not to ever knowingly allow bad data as part of an automatic step |
| 21:14 | it causes people to get suspicious about the system | |
| 21:15 | and if it wasn't automatic, then the responsibility is still the catalogers | |
| 21:16 | danny | ok I understand your concern |
| 21:18 | i guess I was just looking at it like the benefit of possibly tripling the amount of art work would be worth possibly having a few items with incorrect art | |
| 21:19 | atz | i think the libraries without professional catalogers would agree with you |
| 21:19 | (and the professional catalogers wouldn't) | |
| 21:20 | danny | i am not sure what the % of error would be, after all you are matching based on standard numbers, ean, upc, etc |
| 21:20 | if the number is wrong in the record then that is the responsibility of the cataloger | |
| 21:27 | i love brainstorming though :) ty guys for the feedback | |
| 21:28 | given me a few more things to think about | |
| 02:46 | Legendario | chris, r u online? |
| 03:30 | Amit | hi chris, mason, brendan |
| 03:30 | mason | heya amit |
| 03:30 | Amit | hi bignose-work |
| 03:30 | heya mason | |
| 03:30 | tommorrow i m going to mysore for seminar | |
| 03:32 | brendan | heya Amit -- good luck tomorrow |
| 03:32 | Amit | thanx |
| 07:02 | hdl_laptop | hi chris |
| 07:06 | chris | hiya hdl_laptop |
| 07:06 | did you get an email from a user wishing to set up a brazilian mailing list for koha? | |
| 07:16 | hdl_laptop | mmm got it but misread it |
| 07:17 | thanks for pointing that | |
| 07:21 | kf | good morning chris and hdl |
| 07:23 | hdl_laptop | hi kf |
| 07:24 | chris : done | |
| 07:26 | chris | cool :) |
| 07:27 | so i say 2010 kohacon in wellington, 2011 in india and 2012 in brazil, 2013 in germany | |
| 07:27 | :-) | |
| 07:29 | kf | g |
| 07:29 | 2013 - gives me some time then | |
| 07:32 | hdl_laptop | hehe kf |
| 07:35 | kf | hm. cant delete a library in 3.2? get message 'library deleted' but it remains |
| 07:36 | ah ok, its bug 2882 | |
| 07:40 | chris | yes, enough time to prepare lots of bratwurst and bier :) |
| 07:41 | speaking of bugs has anyone else noticed bugzilla is not mailing bugs.koha.org anymore? | |
| 07:41 | Amit | wow chris 2011 in india |
| 07:41 | is good | |
| 07:41 | chris | amit: im mostly joking :) |
| 07:41 | Amit | i think delhi public library is also planning in sep 2209 |
| 07:41 | sory | |
| 07:41 | kf | chris: can arrange that ;) |
| 07:41 | Amit | 2009 |
| 07:41 | chris | amit: but I think it would be good :) |
| 07:42 | Amit | yes |
| 07:42 | yes | |
| 07:42 | in india it would be good | |
| 07:42 | kf | chris: last mail 2009-03-18? |
| 07:43 | chris | yes |
| 07:43 | amit: yes definitely | |
| 07:44 | Amit | if u can chris i would say my boss too 2011 in india |
| 07:47 | chris | kf: it looks like that patch stan added to that bug report would fix it |
| 07:47 | i wonder if it was submitted to the patches list | |
| 07:48 | kf | i fixed it by deleting borrowers, its just the message thats confusing - so there are wore bugs |
| 07:48 | worse | |
| 08:11 | chris | yeah the fix on the bug is to warn you there are borrowers attached |
| 08:17 | hdl_laptop: it is my fathers 65th birthday this saturday .. he just chose the restarant for it | |
| 08:18 | Le Marche Francais | |
| 08:18 | http://www.lemarchefrancais.co.nz/ | |
| 08:18 | hdl_laptop | hehe... |
| 08:18 | chris | so I will be eating french cuisine this weekend :) I will be remembering the cafe in marseille (where we took photos with the owner) |
| 08:19 | hdl_laptop | he is a man of taste.... |
| 08:19 | eiro | that makes me remember Providence: the name of the cafe in the rail station is names "La France" |
| 08:19 | :) | |
| 08:19 | hello all | |
| 08:20 | chris | hi eiro |
| 08:20 | change your nick to confuse me? :-) | |
| 08:21 | eiro | oopps: FYI: i'm mc (i changed my nickname to have the same one on every networks) |
| 08:21 | chris | yep, whois told me |
| 08:21 | eiro | chris, no ... i let my old nick down |
| 08:21 | hehe | |
| 08:22 | my former nick was khatar but noone can pronounce it ... | |
| 08:25 | chris | :) |
| 08:25 | my friend penny has mjollnir as her nick :) | |
| 08:25 | thats hard to pronounce | |
| 08:30 | eiro | it looks like :) |
| 08:30 | hdl_laptop | iirc, mjollnir is a name in Lord Of the ring is it nott ? |
| 08:32 | chris | its from norse legends .... the name of the hammer of Thor |
| 08:33 | hdl_laptop | thanks. |
| 08:33 | you're right | |
| 08:34 | chris | she used to sit near me at work, but now lives in switzerland |
| 08:35 | http://she.geek.nz/ | |
| 08:35 | if you ever want to know anything about moodle ... she knows tons and tons :) | |
| 08:37 | finally up to 2009 | |
| 08:37 | nicomo | hi chris |
| 08:37 | chris | hi nicomo |
| 08:37 | nicomo | i like you detailed Koha chronology a lot |
| 08:38 | could you add informations about companies involved | |
| 08:38 | you mention closure of LL NZ | |
| 08:38 | but not creation of LL itself (or else I missed it) | |
| 08:38 | etc | |
| 08:38 | that would be interesting too | |
| 08:39 | chris | http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]docs/history.txt; |
| 08:39 | is the most up to date, i push up to github usually once a day | |
| 08:39 | yep I plan to accept patches :) | |
| 08:40 | or people can just tell me what to add (if they dont want to clone and send patches) | |
| 08:40 | kf | chris: found something strange: look at 7 January 6 2001 and 27 December 16 2000 |
| 08:40 | chris | when was biblibre officially formed? |
| 08:41 | April 14 2005, Liblime announce they are providing Koha support | |
| 08:41 | I have that for liblime, im not sure when they were formed, but that was their first email to the list | |
| 08:42 | kf | December 16 2000, Glen Stewart sends the first patch for Koha (outside of Katipo) |
| 08:42 | January 6 2001, Steve Tonnesen becomes the 5th committer to Koha and the first outside of Katipo | |
| 08:42 | si | HLT send out RFP, no responses that would actually work over dialup links |
| 08:42 | chris | ta si |
| 08:42 | nicomo | BibLibre created oct. 2007 |
| 08:42 | don't now the official day | |
| 08:42 | si | or that made commercial sense :-) |
| 08:43 | chris | kf: ahh yes Glen stewart emailed me some code .. Steve Tonnessen was the 1st person outside of katipo to get commit access to the cvs repository |
| 08:43 | how can I word that more clearly | |
| 08:43 | heh | |
| 08:43 | that was Tourism industry association | |
| 08:43 | not Koha | |
| 08:43 | si | cumulative... |
| 08:43 | :-) | |
| 08:44 | kf | ah, ok :) I did not get the differene |
| 08:44 | si | speaking of stress sty's, I note that the server running this here ircd is throwing disk errors |
| 08:45 | so we might have a few bounces in the next 36 hours while I fix that | |
| 08:45 | chris | added biblibre, and fixed the rfp bit |
| 08:46 | si: ahh ok | |
| 08:46 | si | or it might get ignored until Easter |
| 08:47 | chris | did I ever show you the swollen eye stress thing I got in 2007? |
| 08:48 | si | you kept it? |
| 08:48 | no :-) | |
| 08:48 | that would be after leaving Katipo, I'm guessing/ | |
| 08:48 | ? | |
| 08:48 | nicomo | wonders when did Nelsonville go live with Koha? |
| 08:48 | chris | I thought I put that in there.... |
| 08:49 | si | they'd been running for some time before Chris's wedding |
| 08:49 | chris | si: yep some time in may 2007 |
| 08:49 | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]hp?g2_itemId=8767 <-- looking particularly handsome that day hehe | |
| 08:50 | nicomo: August 19 2003, NPL announces they are live with Koha | |
| 08:50 | nicomo | pff : I must be the one with Swollen eyes |
| 08:50 | didn't spot it | |
| 08:50 | chris | hehe |
| 08:51 | si | hey! Rosalie's a LIANZA fellow? |
| 08:51 | Who knew | |
| 08:51 | chris | its lucky someone is writing this stuff down :P |
| 08:51 | si | gack, isn't it just |
| 08:53 | chris | my next dilemna is what format to keep this file in, i might start tab separating it |
| 08:54 | or go mental and laTex it :) | |
| 08:54 | si: good point :) "how hard can it be?" | |
| 08:55 | si | stop that |
| 08:56 | or I'll tell your son your old tramping stories | |
| 08:56 | chris | heh |
| 08:56 | speaking of sons, i saw ben and toby at the wiggles on saturday | |
| 08:56 | si | I think I'd like to get "how hard can it be?" etched onto my tombstone |
| 08:56 | chris | hehe |
| 08:57 | si | it's a good rule to live by |
| 08:58 | 'tis nice to see Lianza talking up Koha as a signifcant contribution from Rosa | |
| 08:59 | chris | yeah, it was well deserved |
| 08:59 | kf | chris: what about live date of delhi public library? |
| 09:00 | chris | thats there isnt it? |
| 09:00 | kf | perhaps searched wrong terms |
| 09:01 | Dehli -> delhi, its a typo | |
| 09:01 | chris | fixed |
| 09:01 | ta | |
| 09:01 | kf | ta= |
| 09:01 | ta? | |
| 09:02 | chris | thank you |
| 09:02 | slang for thank you | |
| 09:02 | kf | ok :) my vocabulary grows *makes a note* |
| 09:03 | chris | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ta#English |
| 09:03 | wiktionary rules :) | |
| 09:04 | kf | :) |
| 09:05 | si | it's diminutive - you wouldn't use it in a business setting - only people you know |
| 09:05 | and of course on irc, where it saves keystrokes | |
| 09:05 | kf | ta si |
| 09:06 | si | and used a lot when teaching infants who can't manage the th sound in thank you |
| 09:06 | "fank you!" | |
| 09:43 | kf | :) |
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