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| Time | Nick | Message | 
|---|---|---|
| 11:00 | Amit | hi greenmang0 | 
| 11:00 | greenmang0 | Amit: | 
| 11:01 | Amit | greenmang0 this is your www.kohaindia.org site | 
| 11:02 | greenmang0 | Amit: yeah | 
| 11:08 | Amit: how did you come to know? | |
| 11:09 | Amit | from LIS forum | 
| 11:10 | greenmang0 | Amit: hmm | 
| 11:11 | Amit | hmm ? | 
| 11:13 | what hmm? | |
| 11:15 | greenmang0 | Amit: so Mr. Savitra got to know about the site... | 
| 11:15 | anasha | hmm = Indicating thinking | 
| 11:25 | greenmang0 | Amit: | 
| 11:25 | you there? | |
| 11:26 | Amit | yes | 
| 11:26 | greenmang0 | Amit: you didn't reply... | 
| 11:27 | Amit | means | 
| 11:28 | greenmang0 | Amit: nothing | 
| 11:48 | jwagner | In the items table, it looks like the more_subfields_xml field is used for non-public notes. Is that correct? Is it used for anything else? | 
| 12:15 | paul_p | jwagner: in UNIMARC, yes, it's heavily used ! | 
| 12:25 | jwagner | We're not Unimarc, but it does have entries. They're a pain when I'm trying to export from the item table. Guess I'll have to put up with it, sigh :-( | 
| 12:29 | nahuel | kados, are you there ? | 
| 12:30 | or gmcharlt ? | |
| 12:31 | gmcharlt | hi nahuel | 
| 12:31 | nahuel | hi galen, what's up ? | 
| 12:31 | gmcharlt | not much | 
| 12:31 | how are you? | |
| 12:31 | nahuel | fine, but find a buggous patch from owen you pushed on 3.0.x in august | 
| 12:32 | on admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl | |
| 12:32 | (the last one) | |
| 12:33 | but I don't really know what this patch should do | |
| 12:35 | gmcharlt | appears to fix XHTML validation errors | 
| 12:35 | what is the bug? | |
| 12:36 | nahuel | this patch change the use of CGI::checkbox, etc... to set -name="something" and -id="something$i" | 
| 12:37 | but when you "submit" a form the values are passed using the "key" from name | |
| 12:37 | and not from the id | |
| 12:37 | so you cannot validate the data, and your changes do not have any effect | |
| 12:38 | gmcharlt | hmm | 
| 12:38 | admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl and admin/marctagstructure.pl are the only places that use CGI::checkbox | |
| 12:38 | so a patch to remove that and just build the checkboxes in the templates | |
| 12:38 | would be good | |
| 12:39 | nahuel | hmmm | 
| 12:39 | all koha should use CGI::checkbox & cie amha :) | |
| 12:40 | gmcharlt | "cie amha"? | 
| 12:40 | nahuel | haha | 
| 12:40 | amha = as my humble opinion | |
| 12:41 | gmcharlt | ah | 
| 12:41 | nahuel | checkbox & company | 
| 12:41 | like checkbox and others | |
| 12:41 | gmcharlt | right | 
| 12:42 | I disagree - knowledge of HTML should reside in the templates, as much as possible | |
| 12:43 | using CGI::checkbox means that you're forced to change Perl code to make an interface change | |
| 12:43 | nahuel | cgi::checkbox is used only to generate forms, not display | 
| 12:44 | gmcharlt | but a form is part of the display | 
| 12:44 | see http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=766 for another example | |
| 12:48 | nahuel | well, i think it's lesser flexibility for more quality... | 
| 13:47 | atz | yeah, "only generating forms" in CGI would be basically all of every page | 
| 13:53 | crap... is it "Tornado Awareness Month" again?... cause the sirens are all going off | |
| 14:08 | nahuel | what's "Tornado Awareness Month" ? | 
| 14:09 | atz | i don't know, but the last time I was surprised to hear the alarms going off at the wrong time... it was because of some "homeland security tornado awareness month" | 
| 14:10 | silly government idea: let's change the time of the siren test so that people think it's not a test, in order to provide more awareness. lame. | |
| 14:10 | nahuel | ah | 
| 14:10 | else the next time is a REAL alert, they won't be surprised | |
| 16:04 | atz | does anybody remember a command-line script for running a Koha report by ID#? | 
| 16:04 | i swear I saw one before | |
| 16:05 | ... can't find it now though | |
| 16:17 | hdl_laptop | atz: it would really be fine to have such a script. But I dont remember any like that. | 
| 16:18 | atz: if reports are done the clever way, it should not be too difficult to get one to work. | |
| 16:18 | atz: and maybe curl could be a good solution too. | |
| 16:19 | jwagner | The report scheduler doesn't work (sigh), but I've seen how it tries to structure a cron -- shouldn't be hard to extrapolate from that. It's doing the same thing, trying to run a report by ID #. | 
| 16:21 | Looking back at my notes, it is calling a report like this:  intranet/cgi-bin/tools/runreport.pl 184 text jwagner  ptfs.com | |
| 17:04 | atz | oh... that's actually in cgi-bin? that's dumb | 
| 17:05 | sitting on the web interface with NO SECURITY. | |
| 17:12 | jwagner: thx for finding that | |
| 17:19 | jwagner | Belated you're welcome. If you do find a better place/way of running saved reports, let me know. That's something I've been meaning to look at, but it's at the bottom of the list right now. | 
| 17:23 | hdl_laptop | atz: We often use new CGI in the code. | 
| 17:23 | atz: it doenot look like a good practice. | |
| 17:23 | atz | hdl_laptop: why not? | 
| 17:23 | hdl_laptop | atz: john spent ages on a problem of file import. | 
| 17:24 | atz | yep, that's the only problem area | 
| 17:24 | because of weird timing issues in CFI | |
| 17:24 | *CGI | |
| 17:24 | hdl_laptop | And he realized that CGI environment was overwritten | 
| 17:24 | atz | but we can't get around it, since we require $query as an argument to get_template... | 
| 17:24 | hdl_laptop | when loading C4::Auth | 
| 17:26 | atz | the "upload_hooks" part of CGI is not really well-structured for common use | 
| 17:26 | we have also wasted a lot of time on that problem | |
| 17:28 | hdl_laptop | can't we split get_template_and_user into get_template on the one hand and check_auth on the other hand and pass not the whole query but only the userid/password .... Security problem ?? | 
| 17:30 | atz | hdl_laptop: ummm... yeah! | 
| 17:30 | long overdue. | |
| 17:31 | the Auth code is written badly, and copied even worse | |
| 17:31 | the problem is that we expect Auth to intercede when auth fails, by sending the user to the login page | |
| 17:32 | so it gets involved in all this other stuff | |
| 17:32 | gmcharlt | well, not having to make each script have to do that itself is also desirable | 
| 17:32 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: I agree. | 
| 17:33 | atz | gmcharlt: true, if an atomic version of auth check was really available | 
| 17:33 | gmcharlt | making each CGI script a subclass of a common Koha view class would help | 
| 17:33 | so you can separate authorization and template handling | |
| 17:33 | but get unified handling from the POV of each script | |
| 17:33 | atz | that would be nice | 
| 17:34 | hdl_laptop | nice idea. | 
| 17:35 | but scarce time and not reaaly goodtime to implement. | |
| 17:35 | But I think we could eventually come to that. | |
| 17:36 | Since, CAS, SHIBBOLETH, openID, NTLM supports are likely to be asked soon. | |
| 17:39 | gmcharlt | + opensso | 
| 19:49 | chris | morning | 
| 19:50 | cait | morning chris | 
| 19:51 | chris | apparently some phd student is interviewing me at 10 | 
| 19:52 | which is in an hour .. i wonder what its about | |
| 19:52 | cait | :) | 
| 19:52 | chris | gmcharlt: are you around? | 
| 19:52 | gmcharlt | chris: yes | 
| 19:53 | chris | did chris catalfo send some patches for the librarything+koha integration? | 
| 19:53 | gmcharlt | no | 
| 19:53 | chris | that will be why i couldnt find them then | 
| 19:53 | just checking i hadnt missed something | |
| 19:54 | gmcharlt | I've asked him about it | 
| 19:54 | chris | cool | 
| 19:54 | cait | my colleagues got very excited today, when I showed them the test site | 
| 19:56 | chris | yes I think a lot of people would be quite excited to try it | 
| 03:12 | Amit | hi chris, mason, brendan | 
| 03:13 | chris: what about second test nz vs india | |
| 03:16 | nz is in good position | |
| 03:16 | chris | yeah bad start, but recovering well | 
| 03:18 | mason | heya guys, is the game available via the net? | 
| 03:19 | Amit | yes | 
| 03:20 | good partnership for 4th wicket | |
| 03:20 | mason: http://www.zapak.com/cricketsc[…]5kCFRMupAod9hnBuQ | |
| 03:22 | u have any link? | |
| 03:23 | mason | its a js windows :/ | 
| 03:23 | Live Animation Quick Scorecard Full Scorecard Highlights Graphs Squads REFRESH | |
| 03:23 | Amit | k | 
| 03:23 | mason | top left ;) | 
| 03:24 | Amit | Jesse Ryder is also for century | 
| 03:24 | brendan: have u seen match | |
| 03:26 | brendan | taking a look right now Amit | 
| 03:28 | I like the feed - pretty cool | |
| 03:28 | I'll have to remember that one | |
| 03:28 | Amit | r u watching a cricket match in TV | 
| 03:28 | ? | |
| 03:30 | chris | cricket.org | 
| 03:32 | Amit | chris: dhoni is not playing in 2nd test | 
| 03:32 | brendan | not watching but listening... | 
| 03:33 | Amit | ok | 
| 03:35 | brendan | can't find a good link to watch - | 
| 03:38 | Amit | http://www.zapak.com/cricketsc[…]5kCFRMupAod9hnBuQ | 
| 03:38 | this is good | |
| 03:39 | brendan | cool -- I've been followed | 
| 04:02 | Amit | chris: finally Ross Taylor out | 
| 07:32 | chris | evening | 
| 07:33 | osslabs | hi chris | 
| 07:52 | brendan | heya chris osslabs | 
| 07:52 | goodnight Amit | |
| 07:52 | Amit | good night brendan | 
| 08:16 | Kivutar | hello all | 
| 08:16 | chris | hi Kivutar | 
| 08:48 | Amit | hi kf | 
| 08:49 | kf | hi Amit | 
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