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Time | Nick | Message |
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11:00 | Amit | hi greenmang0 |
11:00 | greenmang0 | Amit: |
11:01 | Amit | greenmang0 this is your www.kohaindia.org site |
11:02 | greenmang0 | Amit: yeah |
11:08 | Amit: how did you come to know? | |
11:09 | Amit | from LIS forum |
11:10 | greenmang0 | Amit: hmm |
11:11 | Amit | hmm ? |
11:13 | what hmm? | |
11:15 | greenmang0 | Amit: so Mr. Savitra got to know about the site... |
11:15 | anasha | hmm = Indicating thinking |
11:25 | greenmang0 | Amit: |
11:25 | you there? | |
11:26 | Amit | yes |
11:26 | greenmang0 | Amit: you didn't reply... |
11:27 | Amit | means |
11:28 | greenmang0 | Amit: nothing |
11:48 | jwagner | In the items table, it looks like the more_subfields_xml field is used for non-public notes. Is that correct? Is it used for anything else? |
12:15 | paul_p | jwagner: in UNIMARC, yes, it's heavily used ! |
12:25 | jwagner | We're not Unimarc, but it does have entries. They're a pain when I'm trying to export from the item table. Guess I'll have to put up with it, sigh :-( |
12:29 | nahuel | kados, are you there ? |
12:30 | or gmcharlt ? | |
12:31 | gmcharlt | hi nahuel |
12:31 | nahuel | hi galen, what's up ? |
12:31 | gmcharlt | not much |
12:31 | how are you? | |
12:31 | nahuel | fine, but find a buggous patch from owen you pushed on 3.0.x in august |
12:32 | on admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl | |
12:32 | (the last one) | |
12:33 | but I don't really know what this patch should do | |
12:35 | gmcharlt | appears to fix XHTML validation errors |
12:35 | what is the bug? | |
12:36 | nahuel | this patch change the use of CGI::checkbox, etc... to set -name="something" and -id="something$i" |
12:37 | but when you "submit" a form the values are passed using the "key" from name | |
12:37 | and not from the id | |
12:37 | so you cannot validate the data, and your changes do not have any effect | |
12:38 | gmcharlt | hmm |
12:38 | admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl and admin/marctagstructure.pl are the only places that use CGI::checkbox | |
12:38 | so a patch to remove that and just build the checkboxes in the templates | |
12:38 | would be good | |
12:39 | nahuel | hmmm |
12:39 | all koha should use CGI::checkbox & cie amha :) | |
12:40 | gmcharlt | "cie amha"? |
12:40 | nahuel | haha |
12:40 | amha = as my humble opinion | |
12:41 | gmcharlt | ah |
12:41 | nahuel | checkbox & company |
12:41 | like checkbox and others | |
12:41 | gmcharlt | right |
12:42 | I disagree - knowledge of HTML should reside in the templates, as much as possible | |
12:43 | using CGI::checkbox means that you're forced to change Perl code to make an interface change | |
12:43 | nahuel | cgi::checkbox is used only to generate forms, not display |
12:44 | gmcharlt | but a form is part of the display |
12:44 | see http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=766 for another example | |
12:48 | nahuel | well, i think it's lesser flexibility for more quality... |
13:47 | atz | yeah, "only generating forms" in CGI would be basically all of every page |
13:53 | crap... is it "Tornado Awareness Month" again?... cause the sirens are all going off | |
14:08 | nahuel | what's "Tornado Awareness Month" ? |
14:09 | atz | i don't know, but the last time I was surprised to hear the alarms going off at the wrong time... it was because of some "homeland security tornado awareness month" |
14:10 | silly government idea: let's change the time of the siren test so that people think it's not a test, in order to provide more awareness. lame. | |
14:10 | nahuel | ah |
14:10 | else the next time is a REAL alert, they won't be surprised | |
16:04 | atz | does anybody remember a command-line script for running a Koha report by ID#? |
16:04 | i swear I saw one before | |
16:05 | ... can't find it now though | |
16:17 | hdl_laptop | atz: it would really be fine to have such a script. But I dont remember any like that. |
16:18 | atz: if reports are done the clever way, it should not be too difficult to get one to work. | |
16:18 | atz: and maybe curl could be a good solution too. | |
16:19 | jwagner | The report scheduler doesn't work (sigh), but I've seen how it tries to structure a cron -- shouldn't be hard to extrapolate from that. It's doing the same thing, trying to run a report by ID #. |
16:21 | Looking back at my notes, it is calling a report like this: intranet/cgi-bin/tools/runreport.pl 184 text jwagnerptfs.com | |
17:04 | atz | oh... that's actually in cgi-bin? that's dumb |
17:05 | sitting on the web interface with NO SECURITY. | |
17:12 | jwagner: thx for finding that | |
17:19 | jwagner | Belated you're welcome. If you do find a better place/way of running saved reports, let me know. That's something I've been meaning to look at, but it's at the bottom of the list right now. |
17:23 | hdl_laptop | atz: We often use new CGI in the code. |
17:23 | atz: it doenot look like a good practice. | |
17:23 | atz | hdl_laptop: why not? |
17:23 | hdl_laptop | atz: john spent ages on a problem of file import. |
17:24 | atz | yep, that's the only problem area |
17:24 | because of weird timing issues in CFI | |
17:24 | *CGI | |
17:24 | hdl_laptop | And he realized that CGI environment was overwritten |
17:24 | atz | but we can't get around it, since we require $query as an argument to get_template... |
17:24 | hdl_laptop | when loading C4::Auth |
17:26 | atz | the "upload_hooks" part of CGI is not really well-structured for common use |
17:26 | we have also wasted a lot of time on that problem | |
17:28 | hdl_laptop | can't we split get_template_and_user into get_template on the one hand and check_auth on the other hand and pass not the whole query but only the userid/password .... Security problem ?? |
17:30 | atz | hdl_laptop: ummm... yeah! |
17:30 | long overdue. | |
17:31 | the Auth code is written badly, and copied even worse | |
17:31 | the problem is that we expect Auth to intercede when auth fails, by sending the user to the login page | |
17:32 | so it gets involved in all this other stuff | |
17:32 | gmcharlt | well, not having to make each script have to do that itself is also desirable |
17:32 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: I agree. |
17:33 | atz | gmcharlt: true, if an atomic version of auth check was really available |
17:33 | gmcharlt | making each CGI script a subclass of a common Koha view class would help |
17:33 | so you can separate authorization and template handling | |
17:33 | but get unified handling from the POV of each script | |
17:33 | atz | that would be nice |
17:34 | hdl_laptop | nice idea. |
17:35 | but scarce time and not reaaly goodtime to implement. | |
17:35 | But I think we could eventually come to that. | |
17:36 | Since, CAS, SHIBBOLETH, openID, NTLM supports are likely to be asked soon. | |
17:39 | gmcharlt | + opensso |
19:49 | chris | morning |
19:50 | cait | morning chris |
19:51 | chris | apparently some phd student is interviewing me at 10 |
19:52 | which is in an hour .. i wonder what its about | |
19:52 | cait | :) |
19:52 | chris | gmcharlt: are you around? |
19:52 | gmcharlt | chris: yes |
19:53 | chris | did chris catalfo send some patches for the librarything+koha integration? |
19:53 | gmcharlt | no |
19:53 | chris | that will be why i couldnt find them then |
19:53 | just checking i hadnt missed something | |
19:54 | gmcharlt | I've asked him about it |
19:54 | chris | cool |
19:54 | cait | my colleagues got very excited today, when I showed them the test site |
19:56 | chris | yes I think a lot of people would be quite excited to try it |
03:12 | Amit | hi chris, mason, brendan |
03:13 | chris: what about second test nz vs india | |
03:16 | nz is in good position | |
03:16 | chris | yeah bad start, but recovering well |
03:18 | mason | heya guys, is the game available via the net? |
03:19 | Amit | yes |
03:20 | good partnership for 4th wicket | |
03:20 | mason: http://www.zapak.com/cricketsc[…]5kCFRMupAod9hnBuQ | |
03:22 | u have any link? | |
03:23 | mason | its a js windows :/ |
03:23 | Live Animation Quick Scorecard Full Scorecard Highlights Graphs Squads REFRESH | |
03:23 | Amit | k |
03:23 | mason | top left ;) |
03:24 | Amit | Jesse Ryder is also for century |
03:24 | brendan: have u seen match | |
03:26 | brendan | taking a look right now Amit |
03:28 | I like the feed - pretty cool | |
03:28 | I'll have to remember that one | |
03:28 | Amit | r u watching a cricket match in TV |
03:28 | ? | |
03:30 | chris | cricket.org |
03:32 | Amit | chris: dhoni is not playing in 2nd test |
03:32 | brendan | not watching but listening... |
03:33 | Amit | ok |
03:35 | brendan | can't find a good link to watch - |
03:38 | Amit | http://www.zapak.com/cricketsc[…]5kCFRMupAod9hnBuQ |
03:38 | this is good | |
03:39 | brendan | cool -- I've been followed |
04:02 | Amit | chris: finally Ross Taylor out |
07:32 | chris | evening |
07:33 | osslabs | hi chris |
07:52 | brendan | heya chris osslabs |
07:52 | goodnight Amit | |
07:52 | Amit | good night brendan |
08:16 | Kivutar | hello all |
08:16 | chris | hi Kivutar |
08:48 | Amit | hi kf |
08:49 | kf | hi Amit |
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