IRC log for #koha, 2009-03-16

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18:03 imp i can't add new accounts in my fresh 3.0.1 setup - there is no dropdown menu from the "New" button to select what kind of user i want to create
18:07 atz imp: go into admin and define your patron types
18:07 make sure you go through all the steps in the admin page (basically in order)
18:09 imp atz: so i should start with "Patron Categories > New category", right?
18:09 atz right
18:10 imp it's a little bit confusing that you can choose at the end of the page already some categories
18:10 atz actually i think those are categories *of categories*... if that makes any sense
18:11 the complexity that some organizations want conflicts a bit w/ the simplicity i'd prefer
18:14 imp " This patron does not exist. " that's what i get after filling the needed stuff and clicking save :/
18:14 atz hmmm... sorry, haven't seen that one
18:15 of course he doesn't exist... that's why you're adding him
18:16 imp the OPAC login stuff is optional, right?
18:17 atz it depends... you can make additional fields optional/mandatory
18:18 but the response is usually to show it in red and say something like "userid is a required field"
18:23 imp http://pastebin.ca/1361594
18:26 don't understand why surname seems to be null
18:27 atz presumably you had one filled in?
18:27 for debugging purposes, see if it will take a record if you populate every field....
18:27 imp already did that (nearly)
18:28 atz sounds like we're getting close to "file a bug" territory then... i'm surprised this hasn't come up before though, since it would seem it should affect everybody
18:30 imp .oO(it's the stable release)
18:31 atz "version 3.00.01 stable you should use" ?
18:32 imp 3.00.01.005
18:33 atz i suspect it is related to this patch:
18:33 http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]c1f602e56f66069d1
18:33 introduced 8 days ago
18:35 if you used git for your installation, you could try selectively reverting it.... but since this is the stable release we should probably question hdl (release maintainer) about it
18:35 i.e., file a bug
18:36 imp are there any changes in memberentry.pl besides whitespaces?
18:36 atz hmm... you're right, it's just whitespace
18:37 and it adds an unconditional warn?  wtf junk patch.
18:38 imp btw, on what kind of hardware do you run koha? it's quite slow here on a netra t1 with 500mhz & 256mb ram...
18:38 atz we run most of ours in 3rd party datacenters
18:39 imp hm
18:42 atz that does seem a bit small, but I've run it on debian VMs w/ only 256 RAM
18:42 difference is probably in CPU, since it affect bottlenecks like XML parsing
18:43 imp memory isn't the problem...
18:43 perl / cgi
18:46 atz i'm emailing koha-devel right now
18:46 imp thanks :)
18:53 if (ref($borrower_data) && ($borrower_data->{'category_type'} eq 'S') && ...
18:53 'S' means what?
18:53 (from intranet/cgi-bin/members/memberentry.pl line 139)
18:59 moah.... eq 'C', eq 'I', eq 'P'
19:00 atz yeah, that's the category of categories that I mentioned
19:01 S probably corresponding to staff....
19:01 imp: email to koha-devel sent
19:01 we
19:01 imp it's quite ugly code imho...
19:01 atz yeah, members is butt ugly
19:01 it's a frankenstein
19:02 the best i can say is that it is *slightly* better in HEAD
19:02 we'll see what ppl have to say in response on koha-devel when they get back to work on monday
19:03 imp indeed :)
19:04 subscribed myself there as well
19:42 chris the good news is it was at least added after the release, so it will only affect people running from git
19:43 (if it is that patch that is the problem)
19:43 nice catch imp and atz
19:45 imp depends on the point of view ;)
19:48 chris catching it before its released is always good
19:48 its better to not do it in the first place of course :)
19:49 imp :D
21:43 ...
21:44 guess the database (mysql) update procedure from 3.0.0 to 3.0.1 is broken
21:45 dropped all tables and now i can add new patrons
21:51 chris be good if you replied to joes email with that info
21:52 imp chris: subscribed myself on the list after atz wrote the mail (+ delay from greylisting) :/
21:53 chris sweet
21:53 ill reply then if you dont mind?
21:53 atz my complaints about that patch still stand... but it's good to know the problem is unrelated
21:53 imp ok :)
21:53 chris yep
21:54 imp btw, the german translation is a little bit buggy ;)
21:54 chris yeah they have been making fixes
21:55 also, i think the staff interface files got clobbered with the opac ones, .. i have fixed the .po files in git
21:55 so if you regenerated the templates, you should get better results
21:56 imp i'll keep it in mind :)
21:56 chris under misc/translation
21:56 there is an install-code.pl
21:57 if you run install-code.pl de-DE
21:57 it will rebuild htme for you (dont do it on production of course)
22:03 imp chris: do i have to run misc/translator/update.pl first?
22:39 yay.. somehow some marc files doesn't show up in the list of files to import, no filename and the #bibs & co are set to 0
22:44 intranet/cgi-bin/tools/background-job-progress.pl eats up to 4 seconds cpu time on my maschine
22:44 pianohacker Any error messages anywhere?
22:46 imp nothing :/
22:47 pianohacker Hmm. Is MySQL happy?
22:47 (note that background-job-progress can be a tad... wonky)
22:48 imp mysql is fine
22:49 but i can offer some lines from var/log/koha-error_log (from install-time)
22:49 pianohacker imp: This is starting to sound like the realm of problem you might need to pull out the Perl debugger for. Do you have any experience with that?
22:49 imp nope
22:49 pianohacker imp: those lines in a pastebin might be helpful
22:53 imp http://pastebin.ca/1361783
22:54 (... means the line appeared some more times)
22:54 pianohacker k
22:55 How many lines do you have in your sessions table? That's the only major thing I can see that might cause problems in background-job-progress
22:58 imp select count(*) from sessions; -> 1
22:59 pianohacker Could you try logging out, deleting that session, then trying the process again? It's possible something is odd with your session.
22:59 Other than that, I unfortunately have no ideas
23:01 imp still the same
23:02 (besides the fact that the content of the sessions table is much smaller now)
23:08 http://pastebin.ca/1361791 that's the site with the marc uploads (on german, but i guess that doesn't matter much)
23:08 somehow there are many unneeded newlines
23:09 pianohacker That's related to indentation in the original template file, and nothing to worry about
23:09 imp line 560 - 608 are just whitespaces and newlines
23:10 but you can run out of newlines one day ;)
23:10 pianohacker Ah, us Americans and our wasteful culture :)
23:11 I'm out of ideas, unfortunately
23:11 Would bulkmarcimport.pl work for your needs?
23:12 Heh
23:12 chris you can swap them for containers
23:12 the US has a big stockpile of them
23:12 from the lopsided trade with china
23:13 imp shit happens if you only import stuff^^
23:13 chris yep
23:13 there is an industry growing around turning them into offices/homes :)
23:14 imp that's quite common here - at least on construction sites
23:15 chris we have kinda the opposite problem
23:16 we export more than we import to a lot of places
23:16 pianohacker chris: All in all, probably a better problem to have economically :P
23:17 imp pianohacker: bulkmarcimport.pl sounds great :) (a option to import a big bunch over the webif would be nice as well)
23:17 pianohacker imp: good
23:17 imp pianohacker: not really - you depend on the rest
23:17 pianohacker true
23:28 imp chris: are you from the north or south of .nz?
23:29 chris wellington, bottom of the north island
23:30 imp hm, let's see if you know where i took this http://hannover.ccc.de/~imp/100_4802.jpg :D
23:30 chris punakaiki
23:30 west coast of the south island
23:31 rocks are a dead give away :)
23:31 imp indeed :D
23:31 want another?
23:31 chris sure :)
23:32 imp http://hannover.ccc.de/~imp/100b4901.jpg
23:33 chris south island again, maybe at the foot of one of the glaciers
23:33 at a guess im gonna say tasman
23:33 with mt cook behind the cloud
23:35 imp hmm, dunno right now where mt cook is
23:36 but i took it http://maps.google.de/maps?f=q[…]0.153122&t=h&z=13
23:36 on the left "triangle" from the road
23:37 chris nope thats too far north for mt cook, thats one of the mts in the kaikoura ranges
23:37 imp does the map jump back to punakaiki?
23:38 chris yep
23:38 imp http://maps.google.de/?ie=UTF8[…]0.153122&t=h&z=13
23:38 that's after the arthur's pass
23:40 chris ah yep, still a bit far north
23:41 imp was a nice place :)
23:41 chris the braided rivers are pretty much a south island thing too
23:42 imp i was only on the south island (besides changing the plane on the north island)
23:42 chris its what a lot of tourists do ;)
23:42 most of the best scenery is in the south
23:44 imp visited a friend (she worked as an au pair, later work & travel), so we went around 10 days there
23:51 chris cool
23:57 imp do you know if they export l&p? ("world famous in new zealand" somehow says "no" to me ;)
23:57 chris yeah im pretty sure they dont
23:57 imp damn :D
03:24 Amit hi koha
03:24 gm mason, chris
03:48 mason hey amit
07:18 SelfishMan Sweet.  I've officially been informed by my copyright lawyer that the use of *low resolution* book covers/jackets is considered "fair use" in the US as long as it is used for the book in question.
07:53 Elwell me scrolls back. mmmmm. l&p
07:53 SelfishMan eh?
09:44 mahesh_c my z3950 search from koha is not returning any result
09:44 can anyone help?
09:44 can anyone help? my z3950 search from koha is not returning any result
09:45 can anyone help? my z3950 search from koha is not returning any result. I am using koha 3.0 in debian lenny
09:47 can anyone help? my z3950 search from koha is not returning any result. I am using koha 3.0 in debian lenny
09:51 Amit hi mahesh
10:00 kf hm
10:00 Amit hi kf
10:00 kf hi Amit
10:54 slef chris: are you about and do you think that all deps are in lenny?  I thought we were still two short (Class::Accessor and SMS::Send IIRC)
10:58 Class::Adapter even
10:58 greenmang0 slef: idzebra is also in Debian testing, not available with lenny
10:58 slef greenmang0: is that the indexdata version not the lagging debian one?
10:59 greenmang0 slef: i never used indexdata, so don't know

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