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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:36 | jwagner | Hope someone is listening and can answer a question. Should the system allow patrons to place holds on items that have a status of missing or lost? It seems to allow it, but I would think that holds on those types of things should be blocked. |
| 13:16 | owen | jwagner: You can hide lost/missing items in the OPAC with a system pref. Would that be a satisfactory answer? |
| 13:17 | "hidelostitems: show or hide "lost" items in OPAC." | |
| 13:25 | jwagner | Yes, I know the syspref is there, but I was wondering more about the rules in place. It seems like logically the system SHOULDN'T allow holds on items with certain statuses, like lost or missing. There's a syspref to allow/block holds on available items, so some of the same logic is in place for that. |
| 13:31 | owen | As with a lot of things, I think it comes down to the particular library |
| 13:31 | What if I want to place a hold on a lost item because I hope it turns up? | |
| 13:32 | jwagner | Maybe another syspref should be created? Like allow/block holds on lost/missing items? |
| 13:32 | owen | That leads to the question, what point is there in having lost/missing results show up at all if you can't borrow them and you can't put a hold on them? |
| 13:33 | jwagner | I canna read the minds of library directors :-) |
| 13:36 | owen | Rather than a system pref, I suppose a better way to manage it would be to add the various statuses to the holds policy interface |
| 13:37 | Now you can block holds on specific item types, why not go one step further and include statuses as an option there? | |
| 13:37 | jwagner | We've been wondering about statuses anyway. Some, like lost, seem to be assigned their own field in the table, while others are kind of floating off on their own. Maybe the way Koha handles statuses could use an overhaul.... |
| 13:38 | nicomo | owen & jwagner both ++ |
| 13:38 | owen | A statuses overhaul would be a very valuable contribution to the Koha project :) |
| 13:39 | nicomo | I'd love to be able to add new statuses, and then decide what to do with them : appear on opac searches, can be loaned, renewals, etc |
| 13:39 | jwagner | That's what I was thinking -- have one field in the table for status (available, on hold, lost, missing, checked out, whatever), and then have other actions check that status field. |
| 13:46 | Elwell | is there a nice visual version of the DB schema anywhere to save me generating one from kohastructure.sql? |
| 13:48 | jwagner | The only one I've found online is from the Koha 2.2 manual site -- appendix A at http://www.kohadocs.org/usersguide/apa.html |
| 13:48 | I'd really love a Koha 3.x table structure document myself | |
| 13:49 | Elwell | heh from http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]elopment:dbschema >> It will be updated when needed (Paul will take care of the update. If he don’t, bug him) |
| 13:49 | paul_p: consider this a poke (it 404's) | |
| 14:09 | it's memorable.... | |
| 14:09 | sqlt-diagram -d MySQL -o=test.png SVN_Sources/koha/installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql --color | |
| 14:10 | ERROR (line 2164): Invalid statement: Was expecting comment, or use, or | |
| 14:10 | set, or drop, or create, or alter, or insert, or | |
| 14:10 | delimiter, or empty statement | |
| 14:10 | Error: translate: Error with parser 'SQL::Translator::Parser::MySQL': no results at /usr/bin/sqlt-diagram line 137. | |
| 19:24 | lizrea | LL peps, is atz on vacation? |
| 19:24 | or conferencing or somesuch | |
| 19:29 | rhcl | I think all the usual day people (except Owen) have been on vacation the past week or so. |
| 19:35 | gmcharlt | lizrea: atz is at a conference |
| 19:48 | lizrea | k cool. I always hate it when people bother me when I'm away, so I'll refrain from harassing him. :) |
| 19:53 | gmcharlt | have fun |
| 19:53 | are you going anywhere? | |
| 19:53 | lizrea | Drsyylr!!! |
| 19:53 | er | |
| 19:53 | LOL | |
| 19:53 | Seattle!! | |
| 19:53 | gmcharlt | some place is Wales, I take it? ;) |
| 19:53 | lizrea | LOL <3 |
| 19:53 | owen | I was thinking maybe Middle Earth |
| 19:54 | lizrea | the land of "fingers on the wrong keys" |
| 19:54 | gmcharlt | a close trading partner of the land of the "kitties on the keyboard" |
| 19:54 | jdavidb | Seattle is beautiful...Ive been there a few times. *gorgeous*. |
| 19:55 | lizrea | ... that is ... beyond words |
| 19:55 | hehe gmcharlt | |
| 19:55 | I think it's also bordered by "toddler at the keyboard" | |
| 19:56 | owen | ...which is usually stickier. |
| 19:56 | lizrea | quite so |
| 19:56 | the land of milk and honey, so they say | |
| 19:56 | har har | |
| 19:56 | jdavidb | In my case, it was the land of gooey chocolate, and stray Cheerios. |
| 19:56 | lizrea | ^ ^ |
| 19:57 | my kid eats these rice things called baby mum mums | |
| 19:57 | I have half nibbled mum mum's all over my house | |
| 19:57 | jdavidb | It's a kiddie version of the styrofoam rice-cakes! EEEEEeeeee! |
| 19:57 | lizrea | ...I really like the word nibble |
| 19:58 | oh I know... but they're GOOD! | |
| 19:58 | I know that the reason they come 2 in a package is because they had to leave one for the mom | |
| 19:58 | jdavidb | Soaked in chocolate...or rum...or even water...something to put some moisture back into them. |
| 19:58 | lizrea | hehehe |
| 19:58 | I hear rum is good for teething | |
| 19:58 | jdavidb | They're like really good cornbread--it's *supposed* to suck all the moisture out of your body.. |
| 19:59 | lizrea | mmm cornbread |
| 19:59 | jdavidb maybe you can answer this question for me | |
| 20:00 | there's a patch on bugzilla for adding sound cues to circulation | |
| 20:00 | jdavidb | Can try. |
| 20:00 | lizrea | I'd like to try it out on our test server, I know I"d have to sync the templates but I don't have access to the scripts (that I know of) |
| 20:00 | http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1080 | |
| 20:01 | would that be something we could work together to deal with? | |
| 20:01 | I think I"m ok with it going away after our next upgrade (unless it's perfect and what we want and bla bla bla) | |
| 20:03 | jdavidb | Hm....I imagine we could work on that, liz. Do you have a SC ticket open on that? I seem to remember... |
| 20:03 | 2444? | |
| 20:05 | lizrea | lemme look (hehe!) |
| 20:05 | I don't think so for this *specifically* | |
| 20:06 | yes, actually, that's exactly it | |
| 20:07 | jdavidb | :D And it's even assigned to me. |
| 20:07 | lizrea | WOO! |
| 20:08 | owen | What's the git command to merge two commits together? I can never remember... |
| 20:09 | gmcharlt | owen: git rebase --interactive |
| 20:09 | jdavidb | lizrea: It's not far from the top of my heap, actually; with a little luck, and no crises, I should be able to get to it tomorrow or this weekend. Would that do? |
| 20:09 | owen | Thank you! I need to carve that into my monitor. |
| 20:12 | lizrea | yea, that would be perfect! |
| 20:12 | that would give us a week before the next scheduled updates to fiddle with it | |
| 20:15 | owen | gmcharlt: if git send-email doesn't work because your patch has long lines, is the fallback to email it to patches as an attachment? |
| 20:15 | gmcharlt | owen: yes, or put it up somewhere and send the URL |
| 20:16 | somewhere being bugzilla, e.g. | |
| 20:16 | owen | Ah, good idea. |
| 20:16 | lizrea | jdavidb: just let me know when you're ready for me to dink with the templates (when the code has been installed) |
| 20:17 | jdavidb | OK. I'll update the ticket, which will send you email! :) |
| 20:17 | lizrea | wahoo! |
| 20:18 | owen | lizrea: I'll be very interested to hear how it goes |
| 20:18 | lizrea | I think we'll all be listening very carefully |
| 20:19 | don't worry chumley | |
| 20:19 | *I* won't come after you | |
| 20:19 | ^ ^ | |
| 20:19 | gmcharlt | it's not you I'm worried about :) |
| 20:19 | just the puns | |
| 20:36 | owen: do know of a way to quickly reproduce the problem fixed in your patch for 2989? | |
| 20:38 | owen | Not off the top of my head, but I'll figure out a test case and post more info. It's a patch that I've had "lying around" for a while so I need to refresh my memory. |
| 20:46 | gmcharlt | I've gone ahead and pushed it, as it works out to no visible change in a default OPAC |
| 03:25 | Amit | hi mason good morning |
| 03:25 | hi all | |
| 05:20 | SelfishMan | Anyone have a quick link to a script that converts Follett 852 fields to Koha 952? |
| 06:50 | nicomo | good morning #koha |
| 07:12 | SelfishMan | morning |
| 10:32 | laurenc1 | nick /laurence |
| 10:41 | Amit | hi laurencel |
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