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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:16 | SelfishMan | any tips for getting the shelf browser working? |
| 12:38 | Ignore that, I figured it out. Now to get 'Editions' working | |
| 16:29 | myconid | What platform is best suited for Koha installation? |
| 17:01 | gmcharlt | myconid: I recommend Debian |
| 17:05 | myconid | I seem to be having perl issues w/ Debian. |
| 17:05 | Whilist trying to install Koha 3 | |
| 20:34 | dressedinvalue | Hello |
| 20:34 | chris | hi |
| 20:34 | myconid | hai |
| 20:34 | dressedinvalue | This is the first time I've ever used IRC, and I grew up around computers and the internet! ha |
| 20:35 | haha | |
| 20:35 | Well, I was hoping I might find someone to help me; to guide me in the right direction | |
| 20:36 | I want to install Koha on a remote VPS, but I am not too handy with the terminal, and I need to install Zebra | |
| 20:36 | myconid | You probably need to install quite a few things. |
| 20:36 | dressedinvalue | Per the req's, I have everything except Zebra (prior to installing the actual Koha software) |
| 20:37 | chris | what distro is your vps? |
| 20:37 | dressedinvalue | I have a MediaTemple Dedicated Virtual server |
| 20:37 | CentOS | |
| 20:37 | chris | ahh so rpm based |
| 20:37 | you might be able to find an rpm on the indexdata site | |
| 20:37 | ill just have a quick look | |
| 20:37 | dressedinvalue | What is rpm? |
| 20:37 | (Sorry, I am not the hippest to the server lingo) | |
| 20:38 | myconid | redhat package management .. how you install prepacked softwaer.. |
| 20:38 | dressedinvalue | I see |
| 20:38 | chris | its they way that fedora, redhat, centos and quick a few others manage software |
| 20:38 | myconid | Debian uses .deb, etc.. everyone has to be fscking different |
| 20:38 | dressedinvalue | haha, yes they do |
| 20:38 | myconid | What release of Koha are you working with? |
| 20:39 | dressedinvalue | The joys of freedom and capitalism |
| 20:39 | I am new to Koha, so I will install 3.0 | |
| 20:39 | myconid | your kicking my butt then :( i cant even get all the perl modules installed correctly. |
| 20:39 | chris | http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/redhat/fc6/ |
| 20:39 | not sure if those will work with CentOS tho, if not, youll have to do a source install | |
| 20:40 | which is pretty much downloading http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/ze[…]bra-2.0.34.tar.gz | |
| 20:40 | untarring | |
| 20:40 | and following hte install instructions that come with it | |
| 20:40 | dressedinvalue | Where do I untar? |
| 20:40 | chris | just in your home directory |
| 20:41 | (on the server) | |
| 20:41 | then you cd into the untarred directory | |
| 20:41 | run ./configure | |
| 20:41 | and that will moan if you have missing dependencies | |
| 20:41 | dressedinvalue | Sorry, this is only slightly, slightly confusing. Home directory for the domain? Or home home home, like a higher-up dir? |
| 20:42 | hahaha | |
| 20:42 | Dangit | |
| 20:42 | I am trying to learn, really. | |
| 20:42 | chris | it doesnt actually matter, thats just where you are uncompressing it |
| 20:42 | not installing it | |
| 20:42 | dressedinvalue | And it will install where it needs to install, automatically? |
| 20:42 | chris | you are familiar with zip on windows? |
| 20:42 | you are just unzipping | |
| 20:43 | dressedinvalue | Sure. I've been extracting things remotely lately |
| 20:43 | I've come to really appreciate it | |
| 20:43 | chris | yes, you run ./configure (in the uncompressed dir) |
| 20:43 | and that will set up the install paths | |
| 20:43 | and if it is happy (doesnt say you are missing other software) | |
| 20:43 | then make | |
| 20:43 | and make install | |
| 20:43 | (make install will need to be run as root) | |
| 20:43 | will finish the install | |
| 20:44 | dressedinvalue | Do I read correctly: "make" and then "make install"? |
| 20:44 | chris | yep |
| 20:44 | but only after you have run ./configure | |
| 20:44 | and it has successfully completed | |
| 20:44 | dressedinvalue | Ok. I have to activate root access on the server, which made me nervous when I read about it yesterday |
| 20:45 | chris | you dont need root until the very last step |
| 20:47 | dressedinvalue | Okay, I just activated root access on the server. I feel dangerous! Now… |
| 20:48 | chris | yeah dont do the rest as root |
| 20:48 | only the make install | |
| 20:48 | dressedinvalue | idzebra-2.0-2.0.32-1.i386.rpm ? |
| 20:48 | Or the one that you linked? | |
| 20:48 | chris | thats the rpm its for fedora, so i dont know if it will work with centos |
| 20:49 | dressedinvalue | So I should just use the tar.gz you linked, and untar that and follow the rest of your directions? |
| 20:49 | chris | yep, there is a README file in there |
| 20:49 | if you get lost | |
| 20:49 | dressedinvalue | Excellent, thank you so much for helping me |
| 20:49 | chris | np |
| 20:55 | dressedinvalue | Of course, I am missing some things |
| 20:55 | chris | *nod* |
| 20:55 | dressedinvalue | gcc, cc, cl.exe, "no acceptable C compiler…" |
| 20:56 | chris | ouch |
| 20:56 | dressedinvalue | That bad, eh? |
| 20:56 | chris | id email the support guys for your VPS and say, you need to insall Zebra, but there is no C compiler, how would they recommend you do it |
| 20:56 | dressedinvalue | Ok, will do |
| 21:05 | myconid | there isnt a RPM? |
| 21:06 | chris | there is one for fedora 9 which may or may not work |
| 22:31 | dressedinvalue | Chris |
| 22:32 | chris | yep? |
| 22:33 | dressedinvalue | I have communicated with my VPS support folks, and they said I can activate/install Developer's Tools: http://kb.mediatemple.net/ques[…]s+package+listing. |
| 22:33 | But I don't understand how that helps | |
| 22:33 | chris | presumably it gives you a c compiler |
| 22:33 | dressedinvalue | I suppose so |
| 22:33 | chris | ah yes |
| 22:33 | gcc-4.1.2-14.el5 | |
| 22:33 | dressedinvalue | Ohh, I see |
| 22:35 | So, if I install Developer's Tools, than I effectively opt out of their Update Option Program, which keeps the server software up to date. I wouldn't mind if I knew more about what I am doing with the server | |
| 22:35 | chris | is that the only way they suggest to install zebra? |
| 22:35 | dressedinvalue | Decisions, decisions… I hope Koha would be worth it |
| 22:35 | Yeah | |
| 22:35 | chris | it might be worth asking if a fedora rpm would work |
| 22:36 | dressedinvalue | I will ask, thanks for that advice |
| 23:05 | myconid | They assume if you install devtools you will probably be installing custom versions of apache, etc. |
| 23:08 | dressedinvalue: do you do other things on this vps? | |
| 23:08 | dressedinvalue | I have other websites hosted on it |
| 23:08 | myconid | Why are you installing Koha onto it? |
| 23:09 | dressedinvalue | Church library |
| 23:09 | I have been looking into different OPACs or ILSs and Koha seemed like the best | |
| 23:10 | Scriblio sounded like a good idea, but didn't make any sense after I installed it | |
| 23:10 | myconid | heh... im friends with the develoepr :) |
| 23:10 | dressedinvalue | haha |
| 23:10 | myconid | but I dont think its meant to be a full blown ils.. but i dunno |
| 23:10 | dressedinvalue | The documentation describes how to use WordPress, not how to use Scriblio |
| 23:11 | No, I realized it's just an OPAC, so there is no borrower-management | |
| 23:13 | vufind.org looked nice but it looked more complicated than Koha, and I think it left me with the same problem as Scriblio | |
| 23:14 | I'm too used to simple CMSs like WordPress, ExpressionEngine, Textpattern, etc | |
| 23:28 | Here's what MediaTemple said: A Fedora RPM might work as RPMs are the standard packaging system used by CentOS. However it would depend on the RPM specific configuration to guarantee success. I would suggest checking the CentOS website or the software maker and get specifics. | |
| 01:27 | myconid | How do I pick unimarc v. marc21? :) |
| 02:00 | Jo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARC_standards |
| 07:53 | chris | hdl: are you about? |
| 07:59 | mason | heya chris |
| 07:59 | the biblibrians should be about v. soon.. | |
| 08:00 | late night ? | |
| 09:14 | chris | back |
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