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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:42 | mc | hello |
| 12:42 | owen | Hi mc |
| 12:58 | AmitG | hi |
| 12:58 | mc | |
| 15:55 | danny | any perl experts have some suggestions, I am trying to do some debugging and I want to print some text from like Search.pm, is this possible or do i have to go through the steps of passing it to a template? |
| 15:56 | gmcharlt | danny: you can warn, which will dump info to Apache error log |
| 15:56 | danny | ah that will work |
| 15:56 | thanks gmcharlt | |
| 15:56 | gmcharlt | or you can use die, which dump the error message to the browser in place of the page |
| 15:59 | Beth | Can the Holds to Pull (or pending holds) report be customized? If so, where does one do that? |
| 16:00 | gmcharlt | Beth: customized in what way? |
| 16:00 | Beth | Well I'd like to customize what shows up in the columns (remove some maybe add others) - trying to get it to fit on an 8 1/2 x 11 piece of paper |
| 16:00 | right now it's too wide and doesn't print properly | |
| 16:01 | BTW Hi Galen glad you liked our Hi logol *L* | |
| 16:09 | owen | I wonder if the guided reports system will ever improve to the point that *all* the hardcoded reports can be made as guided reports |
| 16:09 | Beth | That would be great owen if that could happen. |
| 16:09 | gmcharlt | Beth: you could lop off columns in the template - koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/circ/... |
| 16:10 | owen | It couldn't happen without sponsorship I'm sure. |
| 16:10 | gmcharlt | Beth: not ideal, because you then would have to maintain that local customization |
| 16:10 | but possible | |
| 16:10 | Beth | Galen - yeah definitely not ideal but thanks for an answer. |
| 16:13 | Hey Galen one more question - got any idea why when I print the report it starts about 2" in on the paper and doesn't use the full page? | |
| 16:13 | gmcharlt | Beth: presumably some CSS oddity |
| 16:13 | owen | Beth: I'll bet there's a problem with the stylesheet |
| 16:13 | Which report is it? | |
| 16:13 | Beth | gmcharlt - thanks will take a look |
| 16:14 | gmcharlt | make a print stylesheet available for such things may help, besides the changes to the base stylesheet that I think owen is talking about |
| 16:14 | Beth | owen - Holds to Pull or pendingreserves |
| 16:23 | owen | Beth, if you have access to your stylesheets, you can edit print.css and add at the end of the file: .yui-t2 #yui-main div.yui-b {margin-left : 0; } |
| 16:24 | Beth | owen - yes we do thanks for your help |
| 19:19 | danny | I remember reading a while ago about perl and being able to multi-thread, do any of the koha scripts use threads? |
| 19:21 | gmcharlt | danny: no |
| 19:22 | danny | are there any downsides that you know of to using threads, do they help increase speed in certain situations? |
| 19:27 | gmcharlt | big downside is that threaded programming in Perl has gotchas for the unwary - easy to cause a deadlock |
| 19:28 | danny | hmm ok |
| 19:28 | i was working on adding some facets that we need for HCL, then I got to looking at how the facets are ordered in Koha | |
| 19:29 | and I like that they are ordered by number of hits per facet, but it is only number of hits in that page of results, instead of for the whole result set | |
| 19:30 | and i was thinking about how you would get the facets for the whole result set, and depending on the search that seems like it could take a while? | |
| 19:30 | gmcharlt | right - Zebra add faceting support recently, and if we switch to that instead of having Koha compute the facets, that problem should go away |
| 19:31 | danny | oh that is interesting |
| 19:47 | hdl | gmcharlt: have ll setup gitosis ? |
| 19:47 | gmcharlt | hdl: not yet, but soon |
| 19:47 | hdl | Can I add a key there ? |
| 19:47 | OK. | |
| 19:48 | gmcharlt | if you email me your public key, I can put it in place once I set up gitosis |
| 19:49 | owen | gitosis? |
| 19:51 | gmcharlt | owen: way to have multiple maintainers of different branches of the git tree |
| 20:54 | frederic | df |
| 21:26 | chris | morning |
| 21:26 | gmcharlt | frederic: disk space usage on #koha: nil ;) |
| 21:51 | chris | heya jaron |
| 21:51 | jaron | hi chris :) |
| 21:52 | chris | hows things? |
| 21:54 | jaron | pretty good. in koha terms I upgraded to 3.0 without major problems and get to give a presentation on koha in October. so all's good there. |
| 21:54 | chris | woot thats excellent news |
| 21:54 | jaron | i didn't realize until just recently that you started a new job |
| 21:54 | oh, was that a good time? | |
| 21:54 | chris | oh yeah, started in march |
| 21:55 | yep, 2nd year its run ... some good finalists and i was happy with all the winners | |
| 21:55 | and i got to actually enjoy it this time, last time i was too nervous hehe | |
| 21:55 | jaron | good to see that kind of open source promotion going on for sure |
| 21:57 | ah, even an open source in government category | |
| 21:57 | chris | oh yeah |
| 21:57 | the entire nz elections are done on free software | |
| 21:58 | including the electoral role .. theres a pretty decent uptake here | |
| 21:58 | jaron | nz++ |
| 21:58 | chris | silverstripe won the project category |
| 21:59 | jaron | but oh dear what about the hackers fooling with the election results! |
| 21:59 | silverstripe looks really nice | |
| 21:59 | chris | yeah, running the democratic convention website pretty much clinched it for them |
| 22:00 | and radio nz won the open source in govt | |
| 22:00 | (they make all their shows available as .ogg) | |
| 22:01 | jaron | that's awesome |
| 22:01 | chris | oh and robert o'callahan wone his category ... which was a suprise to no one :) |
| 22:02 | where are you presenting? | |
| 22:03 | jaron | I was asked to talk at some users group. I think it's Indiana OnLine Users Group. |
| 22:03 | the whole day is on oss | |
| 22:03 | chris | awesome |
| 22:04 | jaron | i think they're mainly library folks. it will be my first professional presentation |
| 22:04 | chris | cool |
| 22:04 | jaron | which means i've probably got to make some slides up before the night before or something ;) |
| 22:04 | chris | heh |
| 23:06 | jaron: you could put that documentaion on wiki.koha.org if you liked as well | |
| 23:08 | jaron | ok, will do. |
| 23:09 | chris | ill give it a try after work today :) |
| 23:09 | jaron | then you can let me know if it is a stupid way to go about it :) |
| 23:10 | chris | :) |
| 23:10 | seems like a neat little idea to me | |
| 23:12 | jaron | well, it's something I wanted to do and gmcharlt gave me an idea how to do it, but the mistakes are all mine. :) |
| 23:12 | chris | :) |
| 04:16 | anasha | hello friends |
| 04:16 | hi mason | |
| 04:29 | Amit | hi |
| 04:29 | koha good morning | |
| 04:29 | hi mason good morning | |
| 04:36 | mason | heya amit |
| 04:37 | did you have a look at the squid stuff i emailed you? | |
| 04:38 | it might be handy for the DPL koha, depending on DPL's network speed... | |
| 04:38 | just an idea ;) | |
| 04:38 | Amit | yes |
| 04:38 | i have seen | |
| 04:38 | thanx | |
| 04:39 | dpl speed is not so good? | |
| 04:39 | i mean to say | |
| 04:39 | browersing of koha | |
| 04:39 | mason | ah, system load is high? |
| 04:39 | Amit | no |
| 04:39 | 1 min | |
| 04:40 | mason | hmm, looks like you still have a strange problems there.... |
| 04:40 | slow system - but load is low. | |
| 04:41 | Amit | load average 0.11 |
| 04:42 | mason | i would write a script to hit the system with many searches, to increase load |
| 04:42 | then try to identify what is causing the slow-down | |
| 04:44 | Amit | i think some network problem |
| 04:45 | mason | couls be |
| 04:45 | could be | |
| 04:45 | write a script to test searching... | |
| 04:45 | run it locally on DPL server with lynx/links | |
| 04:46 | then run same script from openlx, see if there is a difference is seaching speed.. | |
| 04:47 | i thought you where testing this locally, sounds like a network issue then.. | |
| 04:48 | Amit | yes |
| 04:48 | ur right | |
| 04:49 | but speed is better than | |
| 04:49 | old one | |
| 04:49 | in my pc searching is fast | |
| 04:50 | when i m searching dpl catalog | |
| 04:54 | mason | perhaps, DPL need to upgrade their net connection with their ISP, if this is a big issue |
| 04:54 | Amit | yes |
| 04:54 | there is 2Mbps | |
| 04:54 | connection at present | |
| 04:54 | in future they me be increase | |
| 04:55 | because after 2 oct dpl is online 24 hrs | |
| 04:57 | mason | hmm, write a script to do the same search during different times of the day/night |
| 04:58 | Amit | ok |
| 04:58 | mason | does the performance improved at 2am , compared to 2pm? etc... |
| 04:58 | Amit | searching is very slow |
| 04:58 | network traffic problem | |
| 04:58 | may be | |
| 05:01 | mason | if so, you might need to start collecting data/statistics to prove to DPL managment that this is an issue |
| 05:02 | anasha | any one around who installed koha 3 on debian-40r4a etch |
| 05:02 | mason | get a script running every hour, doing the same search - and log the search time |
| 05:02 | Amit | ok |
| 05:03 | i will be made a script then i check | |
| 05:03 | searching | |
| 05:03 | mason | see if the performance changes much during the day/night |
| 05:04 | Amit | ok |
| 05:04 | or some apache bench marking | |
| 05:05 | mason | if search takes many minutes, show your data to managment - and suggest ISP upgrade; or network traffic-shaping with DPL routers perhaps? |
| 05:21 | Amit | ok |
| 05:57 | hi | |
| 05:57 | paul | |
| 07:22 | chris | amit: if you go to system preferences |
| 07:22 | what is yuipath set to? | |
| 07:22 | Amit | ok |
| 07:23 | local | |
| 07:23 | yuipath set to local | |
| 07:24 | this is system preference setting | |
| 07:24 | chris | local? |
| 07:24 | Amit | yes |
| 07:24 | yuipath Insert the path to YUI libraries, choose local if you use koha offline local | |
| 07:25 | chris | do you mean /intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui ? |
| 07:25 | Amit | yes |
| 07:26 | chris | in that case, yep chances are its the network at dpl |
| 07:26 | Amit | ok |
| 07:26 | i will see | |
| 07:26 | i have not change because this is the default setting | |
| 07:27 | because in dpl they are using local access also | |
| 07:27 | for koha | |
| 07:27 | by internal ip |
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