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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:19 | martinmorris | hi again - is there anybody who can help with a minor display problem on my new koha 3 installatin? |
| 12:19 | installation even | |
| 12:26 | hdl | hi |
| 12:27 | martinmorris: | |
| 12:27 | martinmorris | hi hdl :) |
| 12:27 | hdl | do you have correct link and acces to yui ? |
| 12:27 | martinmorris | it's only a small thing but the drop down menus arent' quite working properly and all the options display at once |
| 12:27 | um, no idea, what's yui? | |
| 12:28 | hdl | yahoo User Interface. |
| 12:28 | martinmorris | ah |
| 12:28 | not sure, is that in the intranet-tmp directory? | |
| 12:29 | i have a "/usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui" directory | |
| 12:32 | hdl | could be. |
| 12:33 | depending on your systempreferences yuipath | |
| 12:33 | if it is local | |
| 12:33 | martinmorris | ah, i set that up within koha do I |
| 12:33 | let me have a look | |
| 12:33 | hdl | or http://... |
| 12:38 | martinmorris | where in system preferences would I set that hdl? |
| 12:38 | hdl | search yuipath |
| 12:40 | martinmorris | ah so it's a system preference on the server, not within koha itself? |
| 12:40 | ok... | |
| 12:43 | hmm, that's not making enough sense for me - i'm seeing a couple of different answeres | |
| 12:43 | anyway thanks for your help hdl | |
| 12:45 | hdl | martinmorris: no |
| 12:45 | it is in koha | |
| 12:45 | on administration page | |
| 12:45 | martinmorris | right... |
| 12:45 | hdl | you can find yuipath searching systempreferences. |
| 12:46 | martinmorris | ah, with you :) |
| 12:46 | searching now | |
| 12:46 | right, i don't have a yuipath system preference | |
| 12:47 | so i need to create one in which part of system preferences? | |
| 12:48 | hdl | any |
| 12:48 | it wil go to the right part. | |
| 12:50 | martinmorris | so the preference is yuipath |
| 12:50 | and the path is /intranet.... | |
| 12:52 | or rather the value | |
| 12:53 | anyway, doesn't seem to have made a difference, trying with a / at the end | |
| 12:56 | got it working, thanks hdl! | |
| 12:57 | hdl | np |
| 13:01 | gmcharlt: atz_ Is PDF::API2 0.3r77 still required to make barcode generator work ? | |
| 13:09 | gmcharlt | hdl: Makefile.PL claims 2.000 is required, but at moment I don't see any sign that C4::Barcodes::PrinterConfig is actually being used ATM |
| 13:10 | hdl | gmcharlt: this peculiar version of PDF::API2 is quite hard to find. |
| 13:12 | gmcharlt | hdl: after testing, no reason why can't require a version that's easier to find from CPAN or common packages |
| 13:13 | hdl | should be removed from docs then. |
| 13:14 | filing bug | |
| 13:31 | cnighs | hello #koha |
| 13:54 | liz-nekls | mornin peps |
| 13:59 | atz_ | greets liz-nekls |
| 14:06 | cnighs | g'morning liz-nekls |
| 14:20 | liz-nekls | yeppers |
| 14:20 | :D | |
| 14:21 | some people in our system say "Nickels" i think that's just wrong | |
| 14:21 | it's an E, people | |
| 14:21 | :) | |
| 14:25 | lizrea | tired of my nick having something to do with where I work :P |
| 14:28 | gmcharlt | lol |
| 15:07 | rhcl | Hey Liz, how many total libraries in NEKLS actually moved from Sirsi to Koha? |
| 15:48 | hdl | any mac user around ? |
| 15:48 | Have you ever installed and used MarcEdit on Mac ? | |
| 15:49 | gmcharlt | hdl: we've used Mono on Debian with run MarcEdit - haven't tried it on a Mac yet, though |
| 15:50 | hdl | So works on Debian. |
| 15:51 | anything to install after Mono in order to run MarcEdit ? | |
| 15:57 | martinmorris | i've got a quick question about indexing - i chose dom rather than grs1 when installing and now i get bizarre entries in my zebra log when doing a search... |
| 15:57 | such as:16:49:13-13/08 zebrasrv(1) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01\x09)((e|\xC3\xA9|\xC3\xA8|\xC3\xAA|\xE1\xBA\xBD|\xC4\x95|\xC4\x99|\xC4\x97|\xC4\x9B|\xC8\x85|\xC8\x87)sp(e|\xC3\xA9|\xC3\xA8|\xC3\xAA|\xE1\xBA\xBD|\xC4\x95|\xC4\x99|\xC4\x97|\xC4\x9B|\xC8\x85|\xC8\x87)r(a|\xC3\xA1|\xC3\xA0|\xC3\xA3|\xC3\xA5|\xC3\xA2|\xC4\x83|\xC4\x85|\xC8\xA7|\xC7\x8E|\xC8\x81|\xC8\x83)nt(o|\xC3\xB3|\xC3\xB2|\xC3\xB5|\xC3\xB4|\xC5\x8F|\xC7\xAB|\xC8\xAF|\xC5 | |
| 15:58 | it's a unicode database if that is relevant | |
| 15:59 | kados | martinmorris: that's normal |
| 15:59 | martinmorris | oh really? |
| 15:59 | ah | |
| 15:59 | i don't remember getting that before, is it because i changed from dom to grs? | |
| 15:59 | from grs to dom rather | |
| 15:59 | kados | you must have also strted using the new .chr files |
| 15:59 | pianohacker | owen: around ? |
| 16:00 | owen | Yes |
| 16:00 | kados | no, it would be the new .chr files with all the mappings for diacritical to non-diacritical chars |
| 16:00 | martinmorris | right OK |
| 16:00 | in that case there's another reason why my searches aren't workign then :) | |
| 16:00 | kados | heh |
| 16:00 | if you reinstalled you'll need to reindex zebra | |
| 16:00 | most likely | |
| 16:00 | pianohacker | owen: Is there any reason for class="content_hidden" to have visibility: hidden and display: none ? |
| 16:00 | martinmorris | i have reindexed zebra |
| 16:00 | kados | and restart the zebra daemon itself |
| 16:00 | martinmorris | aaaah! |
| 16:00 | kados | using the new configuration file koha-conf.xml |
| 16:01 | so if your daemon is running, kill it, and make sure it's properly linked to your new install before starting it back up again | |
| 16:01 | owen | pianohacker: Where is it used? |
| 16:01 | martinmorris | no, hang on actually i did restart it |
| 16:01 | i get a blank table of results | |
| 16:01 | pianohacker | owen: In the templates of {auth_,marc_}subfields_structure |
| 16:02 | martinmorris | done that kados, no difference |
| 16:11 | owen | pianohacker: Sorry, got called away from my desk |
| 16:12 | I don't recall offhand why that class would be defined that way. Feel free to muck with it if you think anything is unnecessary | |
| 16:16 | pianohacker | owen: Thanks |
| 16:17 | lizrea-lappy | ok, this may be a dumb question... I'm trying to customize the search results and I'm not familiar at all with xslt |
| 16:17 | how do I remove just one element of the result, example being "literary form" | |
| 16:18 | I just don't want it to display that | |
| 16:18 | i'm looking at MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl | |
| 16:18 | is that even the right file? | |
| 16:18 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 16:19 | you'd edit the file, looking for whatever bit is extracting the literary form from the 008 | |
| 16:19 | use <!-- and --> (XML comments) to comment out the bit you don't want | |
| 16:19 | then run xmllint MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl | |
| 16:19 | lizrea-lappy | ah, well I probably already have it done then |
| 16:19 | gmcharlt | if it spits back the XSLT, it means that you haven't introduced an XML format error |
| 16:20 | lizrea-lappy | just don't have access to update it |
| 16:20 | (we're hosted by liblime) | |
| 16:21 | gmcharlt | right - I guess raise a support query about getting the customization done |
| 16:22 | Sharon | Liz we can do that through Bev, I guess. I'll send the email. |
| 16:35 | ryan | lizrea-lappy: editix is a nice xslt editor that makes it easy to see the results of the transform. |
| 16:36 | lizrea-lappy | i may have to look into that |
| 16:44 | pianohacker | owen again :P Can you think of an easy way to show that a table cell is editable (click to edit?) |
| 16:46 | owen | Inline editing? Fun. What about a right-aligned background-image of a little pencil? |
| 16:50 | pianohacker: maybe something like famfamfam's page_white_edit icon | |
| 16:55 | acmoore | should the overdues report in the web interface show pretty much the same items as the overdue_notices.pl script deals with? |
| 16:56 | pianohacker | owen: Sounds good |
| 17:53 | owen | Hi clockfort |
| 17:53 | clockfort | hello |
| 17:56 | My libray is thinking of switching to Koha; however, our current software implements patron privacy automatically by limiting the "check out history" to two persons. is this feature duplicated in any setting in Koha? I've seen that there is a tools option to protect patron privacy that allows one to anonymize records older than a certain date. Is there any way to either duplicate our current system of patron privacy protection, or is there a way to anonymize rec | |
| 17:57 | owen | clockfort: Koha has a checkout history feature that can be enabled or disabled via a system pref |
| 17:58 | I'm not sure what you mean by limiting history to two persons? | |
| 17:59 | Disabling reading history just hides the links to that feature. If you want to actually anonymize the checkout histories there is a tool to do so, but on a global level (for anything earlier than a specified date) | |
| 18:02 | clockfort | Yeah, I pretty much said that :-P |
| 18:02 | Sharon_ | I think even with the check out history disabled, you can see the last patron to circ an item. I'd need to test that to be sure. |
| 18:02 | clockfort | hmm, if that's so, that'd be good |
| 18:03 | Because all I really want the history for is to provide accountibility for when things come back broken, etc | |
| 18:03 | other than that patron privacy is a must | |
| 18:07 | Sharon_ | Owen, I can temporarily turn off intranetreadinghistory and NOT lose any data, yes? Unless I anonymize, the data stays there? |
| 18:09 | owen | Sharon_: Yes |
| 18:10 | Sharon_ | ty |
| 18:12 | owen | The system preference definition for opacreadinghistory is the more accurate one: enables /display/ of Patron Circulation History |
| 18:13 | clockfort | Hmm, that still doesn't sound so great, though. If all the reading history disable feature does is disable the link to the list, its still being stored... privacy is not truly protected. |
| 18:14 | owen | clockfort: Right, so you have to also use the anonymize tool |
| 18:16 | clockfort | Yep. I think maybe I'll just set up a cron job to use the anonymization tool past X months, and have it run everyday. |
| 18:16 | Thanks for the clarification though, everyone | |
| 18:17 | owen | atz: Is Bug 2512 only talking about an HTML Tidy report? Or is there a browser error? |
| 18:23 | atz | just tidy, hence minor |
| 18:24 | acmoore | atz: are you running HTML::Tidy on all of the HTML that comes out of Koha? |
| 18:24 | atz | i have the FF plugin on my win32 VM |
| 18:25 | acmoore | ah. cool! |
| 18:25 | atz | so usually when I'm investigating something else, i try to record any other anomalies |
| 18:28 | owen | atz, what plugin is that? |
| 18:28 | atz | Tidy |
| 18:29 | owen | For Firefox? Is it on addons.mozilla.org? |
| 18:29 | atz | yeah, they label it "HTML validator" |
| 18:29 | but it uses w3c tidy and SGML validators | |
| 18:29 | unfortunately only win32 | |
| 18:29 | it was the best add-on before Firebug :) | |
| 18:33 | owen | Neat, thanks atz. Good addition to my tool set. |
| 18:35 | atz | cool... since most of the bugs I'd file off of it would go to you anyway, now you can beat me to the punch :) |
| 18:36 | owen | Not Firefox, but Mac at least: http://www.456bereastreet.com/[…]with_safari_tidy/ |
| 18:46 | atz | interesting |
| 19:07 | Sharon_ | Is there a global modification or global edit feature in koha for changing item types or collection codes? |
| 19:08 | owen | Sharon_: Not at the moment, but I think there's an RFC for that for 3.2? |
| 19:09 | Sharon_ | so to update an item from "new book" to "book" is going to involve editing each individual record? Hmmm.. yes, that would be a very good enhancement from an efficiency point of view ;-) |
| 19:10 | owen | Yeah, my library has never tried to do such things for that reason. But then we don't have different circ rules for new books |
| 19:11 | Sharon_ | the issue is renewals - one of our libraries wants 2 renewals and new items and the rest are ok with 0 renewals and our data was just loaded today, so it's too late to change the map for them |
| 19:13 | so we hoped for a quick and easy way to update her items post-migration... | |
| 20:39 | is there an ETA on 3.2? | |
| 20:41 | acmoore | Sharon_: no. There's only this: http://markmail.org/message/k7ptjm3f2f3dc2hr |
| 20:43 | chris | morning |
| 20:44 | gmcharlt | morning chris |
| 20:57 | cnighs | hello chris |
| 03:35 | it's awful quiet around here | |
| 03:38 | chris | yep |
| 03:49 | cnighs | chris: question for you |
| 03:50 | is the item-level_type syspref an accurate indicator of which itemtype field is being used by a library? | |
| 03:53 | chris | its supposed to be |
| 03:53 | whether it is or not is another story :) | |
| 03:55 | cnighs | yet another coder's nightmare ;-) |
| 03:57 | chris | basically if you set it before you do your import |
| 03:57 | and dont change it | |
| 03:57 | then ur good | |
| 03:57 | but bad stuff (tm) happens if you change it | |
| 03:58 | you can end up with a mix | |
| 03:58 | it perhaps shouldnt be changeable | |
| 03:58 | without a huge warning | |
| 03:59 | cnighs | I built a sub that takes a list of item numbers and hands back out their item type descriptions |
| 03:59 | it bases its decision on which itemtype to look at based on the item-level_type syspref | |
| 03:59 | chris | yep, thats what it should do |
| 04:00 | what we shouldnt let peopel do is change it, without either shifting the itemtype | |
| 04:00 | or just not let them change it | |
| 05:40 | nicomo | 'morning all |
| 06:09 | cnighs | g'morning and g'night :-) |
| 06:29 | nicomo | bye cnighs :-) |
| 06:36 | hdl | hi |
| 06:37 | chris : you're right. | |
| 06:38 | chris | about the itemtypes? |
| 06:38 | hdl | two types of system preferences are mixed : |
| 06:39 | those who have to be set at the beginning and should never change unles it breaks everything. | |
| 06:39 | chris | right |
| 06:39 | hdl | those who can be updated and only have display customisation effect. |
| 06:40 | chris | yep |
| 06:40 | hdl | nicomo realized that while doing a handbook. |
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