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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 22:00 | chris | morning |
| 08:34 | Fallor | hi koha! :) |
| 08:48 | chris | hi fallor |
| 08:48 | paul_ | hi chris & fallor |
| 08:48 | paul | national day here in France, but I work |
| 08:52 | chris | bastille day eh? |
| 08:52 | paul | yep |
| 08:53 | chris | i remember visiting the area where the bastille was with paul |
| 08:53 | paul | "La Bastille" being the jail were the king was able to put anyone without justification. |
| 08:54 | chris | yep |
| 08:54 | paul | was a poorly defended castle in 1789, almost without any prisonneers, but was symbolic. |
| 08:54 | Fallor | er... I have a little problem with Koha3 |
| 08:54 | it says production mode - trapped fatal error | |
| 08:55 | the OPAC says that the system is under maintenance | |
| 08:55 | chris | woo cool |
| 08:55 | hmm, have you run the web installer? | |
| 08:55 | paul | Fallor : run staff interface, you have to do an upgrade |
| 08:56 | Fallor | no, that's the one that complains about fatal error |
| 08:56 | it refuses to start | |
| 08:56 | chris | ahh, is there anything in the error log? |
| 08:56 | Fallor | yep |
| 08:56 | chris | what does it say? |
| 08:56 | Fallor | hold on, i'll switch the machine |
| 08:56 | then i'll be able to paste it | |
| 08:56 | chris | cool |
| 08:58 | Fallor | [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] [error] [client 192.168.0.50] [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] install.pl: Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/CGI/Session.pm line 129. |
| 08:59 | [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] [error] [client 192.168.0.50] [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] install.pl: Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 38. | |
| 08:59 | [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] [error] [client 192.168.0.50] [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] install.pl: Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 38. | |
| 08:59 | [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] [error] [client 192.168.0.50] [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] install.pl: Can't locate object method "generate_id" via package "CGI::Session::ID::" (perhaps you forgot to load "CGI::Session::ID::"?) at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/CGI/Session.pm line 74. | |
| 08:59 | there, yep it's CGI::Session | |
| 08:59 | I also posted that to the mailing list | |
| 08:59 | someone else has the same problem | |
| 09:00 | chris | yep |
| 09:00 | download the tarball of CGI::Session::serialize::yaml | |
| 09:00 | and install that | |
| 09:00 | that should fix it | |
| 09:00 | Fallor | this is the first Koha installation for a public library in finland :) |
| 09:00 | as far as I know | |
| 09:01 | can I get it from cpan? | |
| 09:01 | chris | should be able to |
| 09:02 | paul | we should do an entry on wiki.koha.org until the dependancy is fixed by the package maintainer... |
| 09:02 | chris | and thats great news about Finland |
| 09:02 | yeah good idea paul | |
| 09:02 | Fallor | nope, doesn't seem to be in cpan |
| 09:02 | it is actually | |
| 09:02 | it's CGI::Session::Serialize:yaml | |
| 09:03 | thus Serializewith capita S | |
| 09:03 | paul | if I don't mind : this package used to be a part of CGI::Session, and has been splitted by the package maintainer. the splitting is not properly done, thus the dependancy is broken |
| 09:03 | + there is a new spelling | |
| 09:03 | + some cpan mirrors are not uptodate | |
| 09:04 | mc | hello |
| 09:04 | chris | yeah |
| 09:04 | mc | paul is right |
| 09:04 | Fallor | it requires yaml, right? |
| 09:04 | chris | its an annoying problem, that hopefully the maintainer will fix soon |
| 09:04 | mc | yep |
| 09:04 | i wrote a mail to pause maintainers | |
| 09:04 | paul | mc: just writing a mail to matthias to hire him (you'll be cc:) |
| 09:05 | mc | after asked in the french mongeurs list |
| 09:05 | chris | cool mc |
| 09:05 | mc | paul, wonderfull |
| 09:05 | i really think he is a very good recruit | |
| 09:06 | chris | how many at Biblibre now? |
| 09:06 | 6? | |
| 09:06 | paul | mmm... |
| 09:06 | already working full time : pp, hdl, mc, olivier (acq module), nicolas morin | |
| 09:07 | starting aug, 1st : jacques piton, John soros | |
| 09:07 | starting oct, 1st : Laurence Lefaucheur, Matthias | |
| 09:07 | mc | nicomo is now full time ... |
| 09:07 | Fallor | jaiks, yaml doesn't seem to be part of slackware |
| 09:07 | mc | wow |
| 09:08 | paul | note : pp, hdl, nicolas & jacques = we are the 4 BibLibre owners |
| 09:08 | all others are employees | |
| 09:08 | chris | ah ok |
| 09:08 | mc | Fallor, perl -MYAML::Syck -e1 |
| 09:09 | Fallor | i remeber that there used to be a package for that |
| 09:09 | not anymore it seems | |
| 09:10 | mc: that says nothing at all | |
| 09:15 | hmm... do I need to have yaml installed or is the module from cpan enough in itself? | |
| 09:16 | This release breaks compatibility with versions earlier than version 0.60 of | |
| 09:16 | YAML::Syck and YAML.pm when serializing blessed references. | |
| 09:16 | masonj | bonjour peoples |
| 09:16 | Fallor | is that gonna be a problem? |
| 09:18 | bummer, it won't install :( | |
| 09:19 | masonj | fallor, it can be a little tricky :( |
| 09:19 | mc | re |
| 09:19 | Fallor | I tried installing YAML and then CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml |
| 09:19 | mc | Fallor, yaml::syck isn't enought ? |
| 09:19 | make test | |
| 09:20 | Fallor | YAML, ok apart from the compatibility warning |
| 09:20 | mc | Fallor, on what system ? |
| 09:20 | Fallor | but no luck with CGI::Session... |
| 09:20 | this is Slackware 12.1 | |
| 09:20 | mc | damned .. .you allready told it :) |
| 09:20 | sorry | |
| 09:22 | Fallor | what's this then: |
| 09:22 | t/g4_mysql......................skipped | |
| 09:22 | all skipped: Couldn't establish connection with the MySQL server: Can't connect to data source '' because I can't work out what driver to use (it doesn' t seem to contain a 'dbi:driver:' prefix and the DBI_DRIVER env var is not set) at t/g4_mysql.t line 44 | |
| 09:23 | masonj | hey mc, btw - how did your e -> êèéëÊÈÉË equiv stuff go for zebra ? |
| 09:24 | paul | through default.idx, charmap line |
| 09:24 | index w | |
| 09:24 | completeness 0 | |
| 09:24 | position 1 | |
| 09:24 | alwaysmatches 1 | |
| 09:24 | firstinfield 1 | |
| 09:24 | charmap word-phrase-utf.chr | |
| 09:24 | (same charmap line for index p) | |
| 09:24 | we also have : | |
| 09:24 | # Sort register | |
| 09:24 | sort s | |
| 09:24 | completeness 1 | |
| 09:24 | charmap sort-string-utf.chr | |
| 09:25 | where sort-string-utf.chr is the same file as word-phrase-utf.chr | |
| 09:25 | (same content I mean) | |
| 09:25 | masonj | sure, i switched my 'index w' charmap line to 'sort-string-utf.chr' |
| 09:26 | mc | re ... sorry for lag: i am with my childrens |
| 09:26 | scheduler has top priority for them :) | |
| 09:26 | chris | heh |
| 09:26 | masonj | my system thinks 'word-phrase-utf.chr' is a bit corrupt.... |
| 09:28 | mc | paul, throught well |
| 09:28 | masonj | renice -19 children |
| 09:28 | mc | :) |
| 09:29 | they are frozen now ... running very slowly in the house | |
| 09:30 | masonj | mc: my 'map êèéëÊÈÉË e' line in 'sort-string-utf.chr' seems to be doing equiv well! |
| 09:30 | mc | in fact: |
| 09:30 | http://mc.koha-fr.org/equiv.chr | |
| 09:30 | i expected it to be a part of word-phrase-utf.chr | |
| 09:31 | paul thought it's a bad idea because it doesn't respect our country charset | |
| 09:31 | paul | mc: mail in your mailbox (about next week vacation) |
| 09:32 | mc | paul, i'm still waiting for the matthias CC |
| 09:33 | fetchmail said "no message" | |
| 09:35 | masonj | wow, what are all those chars in your equiv file? |
| 09:35 | paul | mc: (i was in cc myself, & have recieved them) |
| 09:35 | mc | Fallor, try to edit the t/* to find out the problem |
| 09:35 | masonj | mc: i can understand *some* of them |
| 09:36 | mc | tests about mysql can be ignored it you successfully installed the mysql dbd |
| 09:36 | masonj, i used the table supplied by the Text::Unidecode module | |
| 09:37 | masonj | ah, i saw you mention that before |
| 09:37 | mc | i used it for a while in the normal way |
| 09:37 | éèëê... -> e | |
| 09:38 | so i tried to do the counterpart to be exaustive for charmapping | |
| 09:38 | masonj | Text::Unidecode ?? |
| 09:38 | mc | see your line: êèéëÊÈÉË |
| 09:38 | masonj | snap |
| 09:38 | yes | |
| 09:39 | mc | it don't match the sweden °e |
| 09:39 | there is so many cases .... | |
| 09:40 | that i don't know | |
| 09:40 | masonj | ah, i understand now (looking at man page) |
| 09:40 | mc | so i tried to use an existing database |
| 09:40 | Fallor | mc: err... try to edit what? |
| 09:40 | paul | s/note/notice/ |
| 09:41 | masonj | question, does it make your zebra indexes much/slower than with smaller equiv.chr rules? |
| 09:41 | mc | to solve the solution better than we all can because we aren't unicode experts |
| 09:41 | masonj, that was one of the questions i asked to myself | |
| 09:41 | masonj | slower/bigger |
| 09:41 | mc | anwser is: sure ... but how much ! |
| 09:41 | ? | |
| 09:42 | masonj | yeah, i will do some experiments with that too |
| 09:42 | mc | Fallor, view the code and an consider ignoring some tests in fact |
| 09:43 | Fallor, if you thint that all reported errors aren't important, go to next step : make install | |
| 09:43 | masonj, sure | |
| 09:43 | masonj | cool, thanx for the equiv.chr file marc, i will use it |
| 09:44 | mc | i also noticed that some strange a chars are in e equivs |
| 09:44 | so i wonder: | |
| 09:44 | - is this an error ? | |
| 09:44 | - is this right for some langages ? | |
| 09:44 | i vote 2nd | |
| 09:44 | but not sure | |
| 09:45 | i think that this code can be very usefull ... but there is too many questions | |
| 09:45 | paul, messages finally appears | |
| 09:48 | Fallor | ok, i did a force install, see how that goes... |
| 09:49 | "Welcome to Kohan installer" | |
| 09:49 | -n | |
| 09:49 | works so far... | |
| 09:49 | mc | :) |
| 09:52 | Fallor | Ok, at step 3, time for a lunch-break |
| 09:52 | thanks a million :) | |
| 09:53 | paul | bon appétit |
| 09:53 | Fallor | merci |
| 10:02 | mc | np Fallor |
| 10:02 | ohh ... va falloir penser a nourrir la progeniture! |
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