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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 20:46 | chris | morning |
| 21:51 | Mjollnir` | chris~! |
| 22:30 | chris | wow its penny |
| 22:31 | :-) | |
| 22:31 | hows things? | |
| 22:32 | the dns server at work has exploded :( | |
| 22:35 | pie | hi chris :-) |
| 22:35 | chris | hey pie :) |
| 22:35 | pie | hehe, well, now that I'm here, I should commit to installing and setting myself up :-) |
| 22:36 | guess I might lurk for a while though | |
| 22:37 | chris | yeah its usually pretty quiet on monday, its still sunday night for most of the developers |
| 22:37 | pie | stateside? |
| 22:37 | chris | yeah and europe |
| 22:40 | dns is back | |
| 22:57 | Mjollnir` | it's pie AND chris |
| 22:57 | chris | hows the chocolate and fondue .. and umm heidi ? |
| 22:58 | Mjollnir` | heh |
| 22:58 | I'm in london now | |
| 22:58 | arrived a few hours ago | |
| 22:58 | chris | ahh right |
| 22:58 | pie | awesome |
| 22:59 | have you been on the tube yet? | |
| 22:59 | Mjollnir` | pie: how's nothing?! |
| 22:59 | pie | she's been real cute lately |
| 22:59 | I'm used to her coming in at 4 in the morning and meowing ... waking me up and wanting a pat | |
| 22:59 | no wait, that's dogs! :-) | |
| 23:00 | Mjollnir` | I miss her |
| 05:26 | mc | hello koha people |
| 05:37 | masonj | hiya mc |
| 05:45 | chris | hi mc and mason |
| 07:36 | lloyd | morning mason |
| 07:37 | masonjames | hey lloyd |
| 08:07 | chris | hi lloyd |
| 08:37 | lloyd | hi chris |
| 08:39 | chris | hows things? |
| 09:03 | lloyd | Yeah good, yourself? |
| 09:04 | chris | good too |
| 09:15 | hdl | hi chris |
| 09:16 | How are you ? | |
| 09:17 | pie | I might be a dunce at this, but why does it recomment you branch after git cloning? (on http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]opment:git_usage) |
| 09:17 | chris | heya hdl good thanks .. i hear you have been travelling again? |
| 09:17 | pie | after I've cloned, surely that's a branch anyway :-) |
| 09:18 | chris | pie: its easy to fetch and rebase into the master, then cherry pick from your branch .. or into your branch .. if you are doing a lot of work |
| 09:18 | hdl | pie: just to make sure you work on a different branch. |
| 09:19 | chris: yes. I was in Yerevan last week. | |
| 09:19 | Should soon post sthg on that. | |
| 09:19 | pie | oh I see, so that fetching/rebase is on a different branch to your development |
| 09:19 | hdl | pie: yes. |
| 09:19 | pie | cool, thanks |
| 09:20 | hmm, I wonder if I should be doing that with my other projects :-D | |
| 09:20 | chris | hdl: ohh cool, for work? or pleasure? |
| 09:20 | hdl | for Koha. |
| 09:20 | chris | sweet |
| 09:21 | hdl | eifl-foss invited me there for a 2 days workshop. |
| 09:21 | chris | excellent |
| 09:21 | hdl | were 9 libraries there who were interested in Koha. |
| 09:21 | pie | hdl: guess I should introduce myself, I'm andy (pie) and know chris from his new work :-) |
| 09:22 | chris | hdl: thats great news |
| 09:22 | hdl | nice to meet you. |
| 09:22 | pie | you too |
| 09:22 | hdl | most of them would-be local pilots on Koha projects |
| 09:23 | masonj | heya andy |
| 09:23 | pie | hi masonj |
| 09:23 | hdl | Mali, malawi, Georgie, Armenia, Lithuania, at least were represented. |
| 09:24 | chris | wow, quite a mix |
| 09:24 | masonj | aro massif-land andy ;) |
| 09:24 | pie | heh |
| 09:24 | chris | pie: hdl is in france ... he is one of the guys from biblibre |
| 09:25 | and masonj worked with me at katipo and again at liblime | |
| 09:25 | pie | masonj: are you in NZ then? |
| 09:25 | masonj | yes, wellytron |
| 09:25 | hdl | :) |
| 09:26 | But chris told the right things. | |
| 09:26 | pie | yeah, I haven't put him down as a liar (yet) |
| 09:26 | chris | hehe |
| 09:27 | pie | I'm going to follow the installation on Debian though I see it's for Sarge ... is there an Etch version or shall I take notes along the way? |
| 09:27 | also, I'll try and do it on Hardy too | |
| 09:28 | should be pretty similar | |
| 09:28 | chris | you are installing from git eh? |
| 09:28 | (from your clone that is) | |
| 09:28 | pie | (oh, am looking at this http://www.kohadocs.org/Instal[…]ebian_sarge.html) |
| 09:28 | yep, git | |
| 09:28 | chris | ahh, you'll want to ignore that |
| 09:28 | pie | ok |
| 09:28 | masonj | ?galen? did a nice recent ubuntu-gutsy one somewhere... |
| 09:28 | pie | there's a better page somewhere? |
| 09:28 | chris | and look at the INSTALL.debian file instead |
| 09:29 | pie | ok |
| 09:29 | makes sense :-) | |
| 09:29 | chris | that one is for the 2.2.x series (on kohadocs) |
| 09:29 | pie | git is still checking out, you guys have a lot of stuff :-D |
| 09:29 | chris | yeah lots of translations |
| 09:29 | pie | 96831 objects |
| 09:29 | masonj | oops, was kyle ;) .. |
| 09:29 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=ubuntu_gutsy | |
| 09:30 | worked really well for me with deb.etch too.. | |
| 09:30 | pie | righto, I'll look at that too and note if it differs from Hardy |
| 09:31 | chris | cool |
| 09:31 | i mostly just run perl Makefile.PL | |
| 09:31 | and then install all the stuff it tells me im missing :) | |
| 09:32 | pie | hehe |
| 09:32 | chris | but following the instructions is probably a better bet |
| 09:32 | pie | has anyone got a set of Debian install scripts I can steal ... otherwise, I'll probably make my own |
| 09:33 | masonj | just wing it for starters |
| 09:33 | pie | yeah, I guess I should just do that |
| 09:33 | that'll teach me more :-) | |
| 09:33 | masonj | yeah |
| 09:33 | pie | masonj: you have obviously seen this movie before, whereas I don't know the plot yet :-) |
| 09:33 | chris | but install scripts would be gratefully received at any point :) |
| 09:34 | masonj | if you get stuck for more than 10 mins, ping someone.. |
| 09:34 | pie | absolutely |
| 09:34 | (to both of the above) | |
| 09:36 | there's also an INSTALL.Debian too and that looks like it's for Etch | |
| 09:36 | chris | yep |
| 09:38 | pie | chris: do you think I should go for MySQL first, or hit PostgreSQL straight up |
| 09:39 | chris | mysql will definitely work, postgres might |
| 09:39 | depends on how keen you are :) | |
| 09:39 | maybe get it up and running on mysql, then switch it out | |
| 09:40 | pie | sounds like a plan |
| 09:44 | chris | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin[…]rt.cgi?bug=389876 |
| 09:44 | afaik thats the current state of play wrt to debian packaging | |
| 10:14 | ok, i think its time for me to hit the hay | |
| 10:14 | good night/day :) | |
| 10:14 | pie | night |
| 10:53 | hi guys, in the install_misc/debian.packages, it mentions libyaz and libyaz-dev but I install (I guess a newer) libeyaz3 and libyaz3-dev - does this sound okay? | |
| 10:53 | install=installed :-) | |
| 10:54 | masonj | hmm, ive got ' libyaz-dev 2.1.54-1 ' |
| 10:54 | same verision for libyaz too | |
| 10:55 | pie | looks like I've got 3.0.32 |
| 10:55 | ah well, we'll see :) | |
| 10:55 | masonj | sure, if you have errors wind it back to 2.1.54 |
| 10:55 | pie | cool |
| 10:56 | I managed to get things installing now, so I'm on the way | |
| 10:56 | will probably have to carry on tomorrow | |
| 10:57 | thanks for your help guys, catch you tomorrow I hope | |
| 10:57 | masonj | cool, the building stuff takes a little while, dpending on your box speed |
| 10:57 | pie | I built and installed libyaz and idzebra, so that's all good |
| 10:57 | just installing the rest of the dependencies :-) | |
| 10:58 | then, I'm going to go through the CPAN modules and figure which ones already have a Debian package | |
| 10:58 | e.g libclass-accessor-perl | |
| 10:58 | and libxml-rss-perl | |
| 10:59 | masonj | i havnet hit any real gotchas using cpan on the perl deps - to get the lastest versions |
| 10:59 | pie | sounds good :-) |
| 10:59 | masonj | the xml ones *are* where ive had the problems tho |
| 11:00 | perl -MCPAN -e 'install MARC::File::XML' | |
| 11:00 | perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser' | |
| 11:01 | XML::SAX | |
| 11:01 | pie | oh, those ones .. ok, I'll take a note of them |
| 11:01 | masonj | perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::LibXML' |
| 11:01 | perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::LibXSLT' | |
| 11:01 | pie | those last two already have packages :-) |
| 11:02 | masonj | there are some deb/cpan config conflicts sometimes |
| 11:02 | with those ones | |
| 11:02 | pie | heh, I coulda guessed :-) |
| 11:02 | I'll watch out and if there are, I'll install the CPAN version | |
| 11:02 | masonj | they fight over parser.ini files ?!? |
| 11:02 | pie | or maybe look at Lenny and see if there are newer ones |
| 11:03 | masonj | and multi versions in different $PATH's... |
| 11:04 | pie | someone told me the other day that one of my projects had a lot of dependecies, but Koha is something different :-) |
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